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Sunday Dec 03, 2023
The Week According To . . . Tim Young
Sunday Dec 03, 2023
Sunday Dec 03, 2023
We are delighted to be joined by our funny friend from Texas, Tim Young !The snowflakes will be running for cover as Tim talks us through the headlines and happenings from the past seven days.We will be expanding on some of the posts Tim has made on his mega X account and articles from across the web including...- Chicago's migrant crisis deepens as temperatures plummet. - U.S. taxpayers are on the hook for as much as $451 Billion per year in housing and care for illegal immigrants. - Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics.- Now that the House GOP expelled George Santos... - No proof face masks ever worked against Covid, claims UKHSA boss who warns they may have even had opposite effect.- Attorney General Ken Paxton suing Pfizer for misrepresenting Covid-19 vaccine efficacy and conspiring to censor public discourse.- Republican Senators ask Biden admin to "immediately restrict travel" between the U.S. and China over "mysterious illness."- Four women cops unable to subdue one male offender in Chicago.- Sandy Hook families offer to settle with Alex Jones.
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Tim Young is a comedian, political pundit, bestselling author and self-proclaimed bourbon expert!A native of Baltimore, he placed as a finalist in the DC Improv’s 2008 Funniest College Competition.He quickly went on to tour the country, hosting and performing with an opinion on just about everything, his stand-up comedy ranges from stories about growing up, dating and he has a unique commentary on politics.Aside from being a comedian, Tim is considered a leading political thought leader and has consulted Chambers of Commerce, Mayors of major cities, the federal executive branch, and members of both houses of Congress.Tim has had hundreds of television and radio appearances, speaking on everything from deep political views to pop culture, he is a featured guest/contributor seen regularly on Fox, a writer for the Washington Times, one of the most used fill-in hosts on Sirius XM Patriot and has been quoted in almost every major publication in the world.Whether it be the conservative Fox News or the progressive CNN, Tim’s voice has been heard there, his media and pop culture takes have been featured in everything from Cosmopolitan to OK Magazine and TMZ Live, his social media is seen by nearly 100 million people a month and to top it all off he has written 3 books, 2 of them #1 ranked on Amazon.
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Originally broadcast live 2.12.23
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Thursday Nov 30, 2023
Sam Faddis - Terror Threats inside the US
Thursday Nov 30, 2023
Thursday Nov 30, 2023
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Retired CIA officer Sam Faddis is a regular security expert on War Room and he joins Hearts of Oak to look at the terror threat within the US. His Substack goes in depth on the many hazards that we face externally and we pick up on some of his recent articles. We start by looking at open borders and why the establishment won't cut off illegal immigration. The US have endured an onslaught of unknown individuals, when a country is not able to know who is within its borders then it has no idea what perils it faces internally. It is a dangerous situation that America finds itself in. Sam shows us why and how the FBI has spent its time focusing on groups like Moms for Liberty which seems like political targeting and is quite simply illegal. Then we move onto looking at how the situation in Israel could affect the US before finishing on how China has imbedded itself into the establishment and throughout the system.
Sam Faddis is a Retired CIA Operations Officer. Served in Near East and South Asia. Author, commentator. Senior Editor AND Magazine. Public Speaker. Host of Ground Truth.
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Interview recorded 28.11.23
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(Hearts of Oak)
It's wonderful to have you with us. Thank you so much for your time today.
(Sam Faddis)
Thank you for having me, appreciate it.
Not all, I've enjoyed your many times on War Room and maybe we'll touch on that before we get on to everything else.But obviously people can find you @RealSamFaddis on Twitter, @ANDMagazine also.
And I think Substack certainly, what I enjoy is andmagazine.substack.com.Everything is in the description. And I think that's where you put a lot of your longer pieces.So if people enjoy the Twitter, they can jump on and look at the Substack.And of course, Sam, you're a retired CIA officer, served in Near East and South Asia, author, commentator, and of course, senior editor of AND Magazine.And certainly for me, as maybe for many others, what often happens, people coming on Steve Bannon's War Room, it opens a window.Maybe we can just touch on that. It's always fun to ask people how they ended up being on War Room and they will jump on, I think, a lot of the threats, the terror threats currently inside the US.So, what about yourself? How did you end up being on War Room?Yeah, I don't... I think my contact with Steve goes back to when he and Jack Maxey were still working together.And we got particularly deeply involved regarding the Hunter Biden laptop story, because when they got a hold of a copy of the hard drive, one of the first things they wanted to do was make sure that they weren't being played, that this was in fact, something real, they weren't going to run with it.And, you know, they were more than happy to run with it if it was real and authentic, which it is, but they wanted to do their homework first.So they called me in as an old, CIA operator to take a look at this thing and say, Hey, do you think this thing's real?Or is there anything to this accusation that it's Russian disinformation?And after about, I mean, I spent the whole night down, I showed up in DC one night and spent the whole night down in a townhouse in Capitol Hill with those guys going through it.But I can tell you that it took me about five minutes to be able to tell them.It is impossible for somebody to have faked this thing.That's completely ludicrous. If you came to me when I was operating and said, do this to somebody else, I would have said.No can do, man. I mean, can I make up a fake laptop?Yeah. Will it stand more than about five minutes scrutiny from an adversary who knows what they're doing?No, it will not. It will be obvious for a million reasons.
And we've obviously delved into that with Miranda Devine, laptop from hell, Garrett Ziegler on a number of times and and as a huge and you wonder why the media don't wake up to that fact.But that and many, many others.But of course your background, CIA background, that intelligence side, and on your Substack lots of really interesting articles and I think for me it's the concern about the terror threat within the U.S.We talk a lot about what's happening externally. But really the big concern I have looking across the water and we have in the UK, having open borders is the terror threat within here in the UK, as you're concerned over there in the States.And maybe look at the border, because one of your recent Substack posts was the trade in asylum seekers, why the establishment won't cut off illegal immigration.And the issue of open border means the opposite of a purpose of government, isn't it?A government should be closing the borders, protecting its citizens, and this administration seems to want the opposite.So, what are your thoughts as you look on that open border policy?Well, as you well know, given your trade, you know, language can either be used to illuminate or obfuscate.We spend a lot of time listening to this administration use language to obfuscate, to dance around, to pretend, let's just be clear.This administration's policy is open borders.That's the Biden administration's policy is we don't have a border.So nobody in Congress changed the law.Nobody legislated that. The American people didn't decide that.These guys just basically decided, without ever admitting so, that they will not enforce the existing law.If you show up at the border, you're processed, you're handed a notice to appear for a hearing, which may be five to 10 years in the future, and you're cut loose.Actually, you're probably transported onto your onward destination like Chicago or New York.Once you have that hearing notice in hand, by the way, if anybody stops you, you just tell them you're waiting for your hearing.It in fact functions as a permit. In fact, the illegals refer to it as a permit.So that's our policy and we don't, there's no magic database to check these people.We have no idea who they are. We have no idea if the documents they're carrying, if any, are real.So anybody and everybody can walk into the United States.So why? Well, I mean, ideologically, a lot of these people frankly don't believe we have a right to control our borders.But there's also just a lot of money here, right?I mean, there's a huge garment industry as an example in Southern, California around Los Angeles, actually a large number of clothes a large amount of clothing that's made in the United States. It's all made by illegals. I mean if you walked into a shop and there's 300 people in the room and you found one of them who actually had legal documentation to be in the United States.You'd probably die of shock. Everybody knows that. You go to Alabama chicken processing plants for folks to stand on their feet for 10 or 12 hours a day and they gut and pluck chickens not exactly pleasant work. I've done a little bit of it once upon a time.Okay Who does that?Again, if there's 600 people in the plant and you found one that actually has permission to be in the United States and be working. You'd be stunned. So what we have I could go on obviously, I mean you get the point, there's a lot of folks here who are pretending like somehow they're welcoming the poor of the planet and doing something philanthropic.That's not what's happening. They're making a boatload of money.In the article that you referenced, we talked about how, for instance, in New York State, they actually run a state website where employers can go on the website and advertise jobs and that's specifically marketed to illegals.Now, they don't use that terminology, illegals, but that's what it is.It is a state-run website to match up employers with folks who will, again, when it's all said and done, they will work off the books for less than minimum wage.And none of these guys are gonna complain about workplace safety.I mean, if you think about it, it's kind of sick. Here's the Democratic Party pushes this, supposedly the party of the working man.This is a war on American working men and women.It's none of these pesky unions, man. We're gonna deal with folks that are about one step above slaves.
Yeah and I get that and that was a conversation I had in the Brexit debate in the UK talking to voters and you talk to small businesses and they wanted cheap labour, they want a free movement of people and I get the economic argument on that but then you move over on to the security issue and just because you let someone in for, they can cheap labour, if you're not checking who that person is, then you have no idea who is in the country.And it surprises me why, you're on a scale well above what the UK is on, but it surprises me why the media and politicians don't really call this out for what it is, which is a massive security risk for the US.Without question. I mean, first of all, people talk in terms of checking names against databases.Okay, so first of all, let's just assume that happens.What database? I mean, a database consists is only as good as the data that goes into it.What's the premise there? We have a magic database with the names of all the members of Al Qaeda and Hezbollah and Hamas in it. There is no such database.The guy's name is the name of John Smith, something generic.Born in some village nobody ever heard of in Pakistan, okay?You know what you're gonna find? You're gonna find there's no data in your laptop.Does that mean that he's good? It doesn't mean anything. That's, by the way, assuming he's actually telling you his real name.Hezbollah is an example. Hezbollah has a longstanding relationship with Venezuela.They are very serious boys. I've worked against them all over the planet.They plan years and years in advance, they're very meticulous.They don't show up one day and say, let's blow something up.They flip a switch on and off that they've been working for five years.Pre-positioned explosives, case targets, all this.They have a relationship with Venezuela. Venezuela gives them full sets of false identity documents, passport, driver's license, etc., backstopped by the Venezuelan government.Meaning if you ask the Venezuelans, is this guy Jose one of yours?They'll say yes because they gave him the docks as part of their deal. Number one group of people coming out of Central and South America into the United States right now Venezuelans.That is not me saying obviously that every Venezuelan walking into the United States is a terrorist, I'm just saying when you have a flood of people like that and you know you have this capability. It's the simplest thing in the world to insert into that stream guys who are operatives and we have no capacity for detecting them and we have caught them on U.S.soil before. Where they have been here for years and years and years working targets, New York City, Washington DC, Chicago. So yeah, there's a clock ticking out there someplace.Isn't there? It's just you know I mean, when stuff starts to blow up, is there really anybody with a straight face is going to turn around and say, wow, that was unforeseeable, I'm shocked.We're just waiting for it now.
Well, I mean, your time working abroad with the CIA and you're dealing with, countries and individuals and situations which you wouldn't expect to find at home, and I've talked to other people working in the field at different ops.And I think the assumption was, and I assume the assumption is that the intelligence services abroad for the US that, you know, there is trust in what happens back home.There is trust in the borders, in the systems, and you're doing what you do abroad because you know you've got the backing of the US, but also, you know, there's protection there in the US and that's not even touching on the military.Is just touching on the institutions and the border.And if that's no longer there, then kind of you wonder, what is the point of intelligence abroad whenever there's no kind of backstop there back in the US?Yeah, there is no point. I mean, again, this is what I think people need to understand, and they don't, and maybe on some level, they don't want to, right?Because the enormity, first of all, it's staggering and hard to get your head around.But also, you kind of just don't want to face this reality because it's very unpleasant.We don't have a border in the United States functionally.I mean, we have guys that process illegals and then put them on buses and send them to Chicago.We've turned border patrol into welcome wagon, but we don't, we don't, our defences are down.I mean, you're living in a house in a bad neighbourhood and the doors are unlocked and the windows are open and nobody's paying attention.So is it hard to predict what will happen? It will not right now, look at what's happening in the middle East.I mean, you could send intelligence message after intelligence message out of the Middle East from a CIA station, saying everybody and his brother is planning on blowing stuff up all across the United States.Nobody's gonna react to it, nobody's gonna do anything about it.They have politically decided to ignore it.And God willing, somehow miraculously, this will not happen, but I don't see how we will avoid it. People are going to die.We are going to get hit again. And people should keep in mind that when 9-11 happened.Al-Qaeda, just as an example, they never conceived of that as the end of anything, nor did they conceive of that as the worst they could do.So they have never, and many of the other groups, never given up their ambitions for biological, chemical, nuclear, radiological attacks.So as horrible as 9-11 was, what you could see would potentially be much, much worse than that.What do you think as someone who is working abroad on the field, seeing obviously what's happened with not only Afghanistan, but then you mentioned the threat of Iran not being neutralised and that being left to fester and grow and continue to be a threat.And I guess, and it's not, it is one way pointing the finger at the Democrats because of what has happened, but maybe other administrations haven't maybe dealt with that threat either.Does that make any sense or is that on the ball?No, it makes no sense at all. And again, yeah, I'm not going to try to lay all of the issues here squarely and purely at the foot of the Biden administration. Not that they don't.Not that they are working overtime to mess things up.But yeah, we've made mistakes in regard to Iran as an example for a really long time.I mean, look, I've worked with a lot of Iranians, Iranian patriots over the years who are fighting for freedom in their country.I got nothing but respect for the Iranian people, Persian culture, Persian history.But the boys that are in charge in Tehran the IRGC and the ayatollahs are psychos. I mean they they they have an expressly apocalyptic view of history. They believe these are the end times literally in the way, somebody who's a true believer in the literal word of the Bible might believe these are the end times.That's a reality. That's not, that's not a metaphor.These are the end times. The Mahdi, who they regard as an Islamic superman prophet, is about to come back.And there's going to be a giant, fiery end to the world, and they emerge as the winners, and you're all either with them or you're gone.So that's the way they look at the world.Now, these guys have been on a course to acquire nuclear weapons for decades now.Their nuclear program exists for one purpose, for nuclear weapons.Everything else is garbage, just dispense with the nonsense.We keep reading things like, you know, the latest I read was an assessment that's now seven months old that said we think the Iranians are 12 days from having a nuke.Okay, so I'm not a math genius, but I'm pretty sure that if it's been seven months and you told me they were 12 days away. That by this point you should assume they have a nuclear weapon and anybody who thinks that our intelligence collection is so good, that we will know for sure in advance. That they're about to acquire it is living in dreamland.Not true but nobody will know that.Even the Israelis who have a really robust, they basically, you live in a world right now where you could wake up tomorrow and realize not just that they just got the bomb, but they have had the bomb for some period of time.So, I mean, a nuclear Iran that can actually vaporize Tel Aviv, that's the end of peace in the Middle East.You just set that whole region on fire. The Israelis will not live with that.What are we doing? We're shipping billions of dollars to the Ayatollahs.That's what we've been doing under this administration.We've been ransoming hostages.Look at the situation in Afghanistan. I mean, Biden wants everybody to forget about it because politically it's a disaster.All right, let's get down to the real implications. It's a terrorist super state.It's a safe haven for Al Qaeda. Al-Qaeda is at least as strong as they've ever been, and now they have a much more powerful, secure foundation.The Taliban is waging war to topple the government in Islamabad next door.Maybe you don't care about the Pakistanis.They happen to have about 200 functional nuclear weapons, plus the means to deliver them.So if Islamabad falls, that means all of a sudden Al-Qaeda and Taliban are one of the top nuclear powers on the planet.That's kind of a big deal. Somebody ought to be paying attention to that.We can't let that happen, yet we are doing nothing to stop it.
I mean tell, because one of the other articles was standby for another intelligence failure. I think it's the most recent one.Joe does not in his terror threat here at home escalates.And on that you touch on what's happening in Israel and you touch on Iran.I mean, how does that affect? Because America has never been weaker militarily and from a completely civilian point of view seems to never have been at a weaker place in regards to intelligence.Where does that leave America with what is currently happening in the Middle East?Well, it leaves us functionally blind, and I think there are probably two sides to that coin.One is the part where you give warning to the policy makers, to the politicians, and it doesn't happen to fit with their agenda, so they ignore you.We did a lot of this in the run-up to 9-11, which is not to say we had specific information on that plot, but it wasn't exactly a secret to anybody working the target that they're serious and they're coming for us.By the way, they already blew up two of our embassies, tried to take down the World Trade Center once before, and almost sank the USS Cole in Yemen.So for real, guys, they're coming.That didn't fit with Bill Clinton's peace dividend agenda.And we're now at the end of times, and it's every kinder, gentler planet.And the Bush administration didn't seem particularly focused on it before 9-11.So I did a lot of that. I was involved with a lot of that, and as was my wife, who's also a retired agency officer, as were any number of our friends. It's not just me.A whole bunch of guys over a whole bunch of years saying, we better go take care of this Bin Laden guy before something really catastrophic happens and it's ignored.And the second part is just a decrease in collection capability.And we absolutely do not have the collection capability we need.Anybody, Afghanistan is under the control of the Taliban and they got billions of dollars worth of our gear and the international community, including the United States keeps sending them money, calling it humanitarian funding.Anybody who thinks they're using that to buy baby formula is on drugs.So, and you've got every group in the world, including Al-Qaeda back there with, training camps and a completely safe platform from which to plan, train, and launch attack.What if, I don't under anybody who thinks we have any collection capability on the ground in Afghanistan at this point that's worth anything. Again is in dreamland.I mean you can take pictures of it from space and you can listen to, you can surf the internet and intercept email messages. You know, it took us ten years to find Bin Laden because he didn't use the internet and he didn't use a cell phone He recognized the capacity.He ran an entire worldwide outfit for 10 years after we took Afghanistan.Took us 10 years to find him. Why? Because he understood our technical capability, and he knew we didn't have the sources we needed to find him.So we don't have robust, we have essentially no capability in Afghanistan.We have no idea what they're plotting, what they're planning, how many attacks are being hatched over there.
And when I've talked to friends, background intelligence, it's all about assets and having people on the ground and that information.Is it simply with the move, the technological move?Is it that the focus is we can now do everything with technology and the hard work on the ground is simply ignored?Is that maybe the focus of politicians?The focus of politicians is also, unfortunately, the focus of too many people inside the intelligence community, right?I mean, one of the things the United States, just to stick with us as an example, that we do pretty well is allocate money, buy stuff, build buildings, fill them with people looking at flat screen computer monitors, doing PowerPoint presentations, generate a lot of this stuff, build a machine that flies around in space and sucks up signals.Okay, now espionage is not at all like that.Espionage is weird, arcane, old art, really realistically probably hasn't changed for thousands of years, meaningfully, because it's all about human nature.So as long as people are people, it's going to be the same thing.You need this very eclectic group of individuals, often drawn from a whole bunch of very disparate backgrounds, kind of people who in another lifetime would be stealing the crown jewels, who aren't very comfortable colouring within the lines all the time, but they have enough self-control to not go totally off the reservation, if you will.In other words, they'll do it for a good cause.And then you got to train them really well, and then you got to season them really well.Like you got, I mean, when I showed up at my first field station, it was more or less an attitude like, yeah, you go make like 500 asset meetings, and then we might let you talk in the morning meeting when we all get together.Because right now, you know so little, you don't even know what you don't know.And then you got to trust instincts. It's got to be a very flat, nimble organization.If I'm talking to a source in Turkey, and I got an opportunity to do something inside Iran, we need to exploit that opportunity really fast.I don't mean like I should have carte blanche to just do whatever the hell I want, but I just, we got to move.We got a window of opportunity. We got, let's go.I can't send that message back to headquarters and wait six months while they go through 27 levels of review and committees of people who've never been overseas discuss whether or not this is a good idea, right?The really good organizations in history. Have had that capacity, I mean, one, I've done a lot of study over the years of the American OSS in the Second World War, but also SOE, the Special Operations Executive, the British equivalent that was, predates OSS and obviously was the template for OSS.Read the history of that, man, it's a, you know, a bunch of guys like Patrick Leigh Fairmoor that walked across Europe sleeping in barns before the war and, spoke classical Greek and, just this weird combination of things who the next thing you know, they're on Crete and they're dreaming up operations to kidnap Nazi generals. And they actually pull it off like two guys and a handful of Greeks do this. Good lord, if you sent that proposal to Langley these days. You know, you would have no chance on earth of that thing ever being approved. They would come back with nine million reasons why that won't work, and you'd get tired of trying to explain it to them.You'd just be, okay, whatever, too much trouble, leave it alone.Now, I want to ask you about to the domestic side.It seems, again, as someone looking from the outside in, it seems the role of the FBI is now no longer about catching real threats within the US and is more focused on, I mean, whenever Moms for Liberty was declared an extremist organization and those who want to stand up for common sense and basically values of life and liberty and freedom, those are now the ones in the crosshairs.I mean, how has that change happened? Is that just because it's easier to focus on those type of people because they don't push back, they're not a threat.Has there been an active decision to see those people standing up for American values as a threat as opposed to others, maybe the Islamist type?Tell us how that change has happened and what that means for the fabric of the U.S.
Well, first of all, it's catastrophic for the United States, right? I mean, intelligence agencies. Intelligence agencies shouldn't be within 10 miles of American domestic politics.It's illegal, it's unconstitutional, it's immoral, and they should never be, even when they've got to deal with domestic things like the FBI, they should never, never should be partisan.Again, that's illegal and unconstitutional and so forth.I think you have you have like two problems that are affecting both the FBI the CIA and a bunch of other agencies one is bureaucratization which kind of bureaucratic hardening of the arteries the organizations go soft. You stop having guys at the top who made their bones running operations, whether we're talking about the Bureau or CIA now, you got guys who have played political games.And then we have politicization in the sense of American domestic politics.We have outfits that should not have come anywhere near this, that at least at the senior levels have become very politicized.I mean, the Moms with Liberty thing is a great example.I have a, where I live in the state of Pennsylvania, I have a lot of contact with Moms of Liberty because of other things that we do, my wife and I.You know, you're talking about an organization, the centre of gravity is a 55 to 60 year old grandmother.And Moms for Liberty's primary focus is things like, why is this book filled with sexually explicit drawings in an elementary school library accessible to my eight-year-old?I'm not trying to ban the book, burn the book, demonize the person who wrote it. It's just age-inappropriate.It shouldn't be available to kids. It's not exactly incendiary.It's certainly not domestic violent extremism. So, it's insane that the Bureau would label these guys as an organization like that, as being a danger to anything. Not a danger.They're people involved in a political process expressing actually what are really common sense things.So, hugely dangerous.You know, and I think the problem is primarily at the senior levels, but I'm honest enough to say, and I've had this discussion with many old colleagues, you know, I'm still waiting for the day when somebody comes to an FBI SWAT team leader and says, I want you to go at five o'clock in the morning with 25 guys, all gunned up and arrest this 75-year-old guy for praying silently outside an abortion clinic. I think it would be nice to see the day where the guy would say, that's a really interesting idea, man, but I'm not doing that.I'm not the Gestapo, I'm not your secret police.It's not happening, my guys aren't going, you want my badge?Take my badge, but I'm not doing that.When they went to arrest Roger Stone, okay?On what, if you believe there was a crime, would have been at most a white collar crime. So what's the procedure in the United States, you contact the guy's lawyer and you ask him to come down to the courthouse?He shows up you charge him and then typically he's released and he walks out the door, happens all day every day all over America.That's the m.o. Nobody sends a gunboat and an armoured car and a squad of guys, with machine guns to arrest a man who's what 80 years old and by the way stands about 5'3 and, at that towers over his wife who has heart trouble and you're gonna go show up at his doorstep at 4.35 o'clock in the morning I mean come, on that's you are utilizing the law enforcement power of the United States government to intimidate political opponents.Straight up. Not okay.
And I guess that infiltration, that change of thinking, that doesn't change just with administration.Something is deeper than that and there is no necessary quick fix for it.Well, I mean, let me let me focus on the CIA, but we could be talking about several organizations in addition to the FBI.Is it fixable? Yeah, I think it's fixable. I mean, first you have, but you need somebody who understands the outfit, because if you send somebody from the outside to CIA, they will be led around by the nose and played by the guys inside, and they will have no idea what's going on.But the key factor is really you have to have a president of the United States who says, go there, break as much China as you have to, fire as many people as you have to, get it back on track and get it back to work.Now, I've said this many times.I believe if you did that, and you went to CIA as an example, and tossed out folks who have clearly crossed the line on political considerations as an example, and just said, we're going back to work, We're going back to business, we're doing the people's business.I think you'd actually honestly have people standing in the halls cheering.I think the rank and file would be, thank God.Like, you don't go to CIA for the pay check. I mean, you don't starve, but you don't get rich.And you make a tremendous number of sacrifices, and you do a lot of interesting stuff, but you also live some places that are hard.And you certainly put your family through a lot of hell along the way.So really people come there for a reason and because they, as hokey as it may sound, they believe in the mission and they can see when they're not being allowed to do the job.They can see when a guy's getting promoted that has never done anything, but he laughs at the boss's jokes. They're not stupid.And tell me, some of the threat we talked about earlier, the Middle East, you've got that Islamic threat, you've got a completely different way of life and a different viewpoint on how things should end.But another article you wrote recently in the Substack, was looking at China and that threat, Biden meets Xi for talking's sake.And we've certainly had massive concerns here in the UK of that Chinese influence in our education system and much wider.You've probably had similar in education in the political system.That's another threat which is there internally and no one seems to want to deal with it.We've just had David Cameron coming back in the UK as the Foreign Secretary, one of the most pro-China political leaders in a generation.You probably have the same. So tell us about that.That article of Xi coming over and Biden being his lapdog, basically, being summoned to San Francisco.What's your concern of the Chinese influence and where that can take America?Yeah, well, let me state up front, you know, I was a case officer for the Central Intelligence Agency, which is what any normal person would refer to as a spy or a spook. CIA doesn't.Those terms are used differently at CIA. Anyway, what was my job?Well, my job is to do a whole bunch of stuff, but the guts of what you get paid to do as an ops officer, as a case officer, is recruit sources inside target organizations.So in other words, my job to do to the enemy what they're trying to do to us.It is my job to get the Chinese intelligence officer to work for us, the Russian SVR guy to work for us, to get a guy inside Al Qaeda to work for us.So when I say that, not like a hooray for me speech, but as a, when I'm talking about people being recruited and how this works, it's not because I read a book about it one time, it's because this is what I did for a very, very long time, with I think some significant effect.What the Chinese do on an industrial scale is they engage in what's called elite capture, their term.That means they come in and they recruit, they gain control of, they buy, whatever verbiage resonates with you.Influential people in target countries. So that's politicians, could be military officers, corporate leaders, whoever they think has power in that country and can further their interest, they buy them and they gain control over them.They don't do them a favour and then hope later they'll do them a favour.That's what diplomats do.They gain control over them. They stick their, they, you know, they push the buttons in your head, whatever it takes, man.They stroke your ego, feed you money, produce attractive young female agents.Whatever floats your boat, whatever is the key that unlocks you, that's what they do. That's how spies work.Okay, we know that. There's no controversy about this, not a conspiracy theory.It's done worldwide on industrial scale.Not surprisingly, target number one for the Chinese Communist Party Intel guys would be the United States of America. They do this all over the United States.God knows how many guys in Congress they have turned. God knows how many corporate leaders.Look at Joe Biden, right?I mean, again, let's stop beating around the bush and playing games.This is a guy who's taken, I think Miranda Devine's best estimate is at least $31 million flowed to the Biden's from China, from individuals who are directly connected to Chinese intelligence.So let's just take the ambiguity out.Chinese spies funnelled at least $31 million to the Biden's.They didn't give it to Hunter for his good looks, or because of his cocaine user.I mean, there's only one product that Biden's had to sell and that was Joe.The Chinese communists are a lot of things, they're not idiots and they just don't throw money away.So we know all that money flowed to him and we know it came from folks directly connected Chinese Communist Party and Chinese Intel.There's only one question left to ask, what did they get and are they getting in return?You might hand a chunk of change to Hunter one time because he claimed he could do something and then it turned out he couldn't produce and you think okay, nothing ventured nothing gained. We lost the bucks move on, you would not continue to hand millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars to these guys unless something was coming back the other way.So when you put Xi and Joe in a room together and people seriously talk as if Joe is representing the interests of the United States of America.I'm just shaking my head. I'm like, really?Because he's sitting in a room with a guy that, as far as I can tell, bought him years ago. He owns the man.And if you really internalize that, the implications for American national security and the entire free world are terrifying, because it doesn't matter how many carrier battle groups you have, or nuclear weapons.Look, I'm kind of a history nerd. Once upon a time, the British East India Company took over India.They fought a battle at Plessy, I believe, and they defeated a vastly superior Indian army.Now, taking nothing away from the British army, who did a superb job.Number one reason they won the battle, because they bought off the commander of the Indian army, who sat on the side-lines with something like 80%, of the Indian forces and watched while his master and the rest of them were destroyed.Like they just, simple solution, we'll buy this guy off and they'll sit on their hands and watch.So I mean, if the Chinese move on Taiwan tomorrow and you're counting on Joe Biden to be the guy that gives the order to the 7th Fleet to save the day.Good luck, man.What's your, just so we finish off, what is your big concern with the life you've led, with your experience, seen so much and how foreign agencies work, foreign governments work, that ongoing battle, to fight for, I guess, the freedom in the US.What are your kind of big concerns when you look at the US and what has happened?Because obviously a lot of what's happened has been enabled politically, but it's also been enabled in the media, in many, economically, that's been a way in for China.But what to you is probably your major concern of where America currently is?See, here's the way I would sum it up. I think since 1945, the American people have taken for granted the fact that the United States is the preeminent political, military, and economic power on the planet.That's just sort of bedrock, and it's almost like a law of nature now.So things are good sometimes and less good other times, and occasionally we get dragged into a war, and then after a while, we get tired of the war and we go home.Well, we don't think we actually lost our status as the number one power.And even when we leave Afghanistan, we don't think we don't really think of it as we got beat.We think of it as maybe we shouldn't have been there and we got tired of it and we went home.Nobody's dictating articles of surrender on a battleship like we did to the Japanese in 1945. And we sort of assume that, again, that that's, you know, U.S.Military's the most powerful, our economy's the biggest, yada yada.There are no, of course, laws of physics that says that is true.And we've touched on some of the reasons, but we could go on probably all day talking about there's a lot of really catastrophic stuff happening around the planet.Between the Chinese, the possibility the Iranians are going to get nuclear weapons, Pakistan falls and all of a sudden the Taliban has 200 nuclear weapons.Terror attacks inside the United States.I hate this word because it gets overused, but you're actually beginning to talk about things that are existential when it comes to the United States.You're actually, I've said this to numerous people, you could realize that the Chinese could move on Taiwan and a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier could go to the bottom of the Pacific and you realize you don't have one west of San Diego.And all of a sudden right there the status quo that has existed since 1945 where the Pacific is an American Lake ceased to exist guys but the Chinese aren't in San Francisco yet, but, you are no longer everybody in the entire all of East Asia now lives with a new reality, Nope, the South Koreans the Japanese.What are they going to do just fend for themselves? That kind of stuff is already starting to happen all over the planet, and we're either facilitating it or just blissfully ignorant to it, but we're not doing anything to stop it.What happens if the Iranians wake up? What happens if the Iranians detonate a nuclear weapon in the desert and say, we have 12 more?And guess what? But we already moved half of them to places like Lebanon, under the control of Hezbollah, to locations you don't know about and where you can't stop us from launching them.So you Israelis knock yourselves out bombing sites in Iran. We didn't tell you this until we had already taken steps.Now you live in a world where the Iranians can wink the state of Israel out of existence, literally, because Israel's a tiny place, right?Two or three nuclear weapons and Israel doesn't exist anymore.It is that danger. It's that like we're teetering on the edge of a cliff and yet we're not, don't seem to actually be doing anything about it.Well Sam I appreciate you coming on. I think it is so important for the public to understand the perilous situation which we do face and I've thoroughly enjoyed your many times on War Room.So thank you so much for giving us your time today in sharing some of those insights.
Thank you. Appreciate it.



Monday Nov 27, 2023
Monday Nov 27, 2023
Show Notes and Transcript
Dwight Schultz is our podcaster in residence and we are five episodes in to his zany common sense commentary on this increasingly mad world. It has been many years since Dwight has done a video interview so this is a special treat, he discusses all things podcast and how this new media medium is having such an impact. He shares some stories from his friendship with Andrew Breitbart and how he was instrumental in Dwight being so vocal as a Conservative. We finish off with a call for every lover of freedom to use their voice to calmly speak truth. We each have a responsibility to help open the eyes of those around us and we will see real change when we seize those opportunities.
A respected performer on Broadway, Dwight Schultz found everlasting fame by playing the certifiable "Howling Mad" Murdock on the action series "The A-Team" (1983-86).A living, breathing cartoon with a seemingly endless selection of voices and accents at his command, Murdock provided the air power for the A-Team's clandestine adventures, provided that his compatriots could break him out of the mental hospital where he resided.One of the show's most popular and memorable figures, Murdock ensured Schultz steady work on television and on the big screen playing Reginald Barclay in "Star Trek: The Next Generation"An accomplished voice actor, Dwight can be heard in numerous hit computer games and in countless animated shows.
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Interview recorded 21.11.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)Dwight Schultz. It's great to have you back, and this time in a moving picture.Thanks so much for joining us today.
(Dwight Schultz)
Yes, it's my favourite thing in the world to do, looking at oneself.Looking at oneself, it's just, I've, you know there are these actors like Henry Fonda used to, he couldn't watch himself.I have never been able to watch myself. It's a, it's, in show business.It just is one of those, you just find, you spend the rest of the day going over every little thing you hated and critiqued and you can't go on.So it's best not, and that's why I love the theatre. You don't have to look at yourself. The audience is telling you that it's working or it's not.And, but this is modern entertainment and modern news.This is it. So you have to be able to put your toes in there with toenail fungus and all.Well, I want to touch on the podcast because it's been a surreal experience having Dwight Schultz do podcasts for me and for us at Hearts of Oak.I've thoroughly enjoyed listening to your thoughts dropping onto that audio communication.Maybe I'll play just I think a two-minute clip or one-and-a-half-minute clip, of one of them to get, give people an idea of what they will find and underneath on the screen hearts of oak.podbean.com, is where people can find it. Let us know what, because I guess you put that down and it's what's happening currently.There's a lot happening currently. There are never a shortage of things to comment on, kind of what has it been like putting your thoughts down on those?
Okay.
So yeah, but just let us know what that's been like for you.
Well, well, I mean, you know, it is streaming of consciousness.I mean, that's what I, you know, I have done radio for Mark Masters and the Talk Radio Network.I had my own podcast many, many years ago.And it was, you do a show and you do 45 minutes or an hour and then that's it.This is a, I wanted to do an edited thoughts during the day.And frequently, routines come up in my mind during the day when you're talking, and they don't come out in an hour broadcast.But I get ideas for comedy bits, and that's what we call them, bits. And that's what I am. I'm basically a...A bit guy. I'm doing my bit.And you find things that strike you as humorous, and you wish you had had that in the podcast or in the radio broadcast.But this way, I can do that.As I'm putting together and stitching together thoughts, I will then spend several hours working on something that I found funny, and I think others will.Usually, it's outrageous nonsense that people take seriously.And for instance, the Babylon Bee.I love the Babylon Bee in the United States, and I used as an example the other day their very pithy description of the attack on Israel by Hamas.And they used Cain and Abel as the analogy.And they, you know, Cain killed Abel and immediately called for a ceasefire after checking to see if Abel's pulse had stopped, you know.And that kind of thing is brilliant. I mean, they're brilliant.They just are brilliant. And it's not easy to come up with some of these ideas.They are amazing.They hit it every time. And they have a, so that's that's sort of the kind of thing I try to do in the midst of blah, blah, blah, talking.The bits are actually more important than the blah, blah, blah.But the blah, blah, blah fills the time.
So it's actually I've got a friend and her her dream is to be a writer for Babylon Bee.Oh, that's a high bar.
Yes, that would be wonderful. But, but I, you know, the last thing I did was, was Xi, Xi coming over to see our, um.Our illustrious president, a man of many careers.He should have been an actor. That's what he should have been.He should have been an actor. He's much better.But I just saw, and I did, I mean, I literally thought of the conversation between Xi and a friend in San Francisco after he met with our illustrious president, giving away the store, you know, we, you know, he's, he's been called by some famous, columnists in the United States, a controlled asset of the an enemy, right.And I think it's fairly accurate.And so I just did, you know, I did a routine, I did a routine on it and indeed, I think I got my inspiration from Greg Gutfeld on the, for the routine, but anyway, it happens and it happens in 10 minutes.Sometimes it happens in three hours, but, that's, you know, that's my view of their conversation and what was going to happen ultimately.Well, let me, I just want to play a two minute clip and then ask you for kind of, it's obviously different from scripted, what you get voiceover and have done for 20 years.Let me just play this two minute clip and let people have a flavour of what they can can find on your many podcasts, up to five now. So let me play this clip here...
(Clip plays)
Anybody who looks at this dumb piece of dead meat with strings being pulled by Barack Obama and our country being sold down the river, when all of the evidence is there and all of the good people who worked hard are being called criminals and all of the criminals are accusing us of what they are doing.Donald Trump will not turn this into a dictatorship. We already have a dictatorship.We have a Department of Social Justice now. That's all you need to know.All that you have to do is look at what is happening in the streets.Please call me by my pronouns. Call me by my pronouns and I have 12 of them.All right, and please go to Citizen Free Press and look at the video of the dumbass who was caught drunk driving and what excuses this individual used to try to get out of being caught drunk driving.It's what's being taught in schools. How to avoid arrest for drunk driving.First of all, pull the number of pronouns that you have in your wallet out and stick them on the windshield and have the officer read them in the dark.And if you can, put them on backwards so that he has to go around the other side to read them. I mean, it's please, folks.Never in the history of the United States have such incomprehensibly horrific ideas been used to destroy society.But they they're horrific because it is so clear and obvious.(Clip ends)It's a great end never in the history of such a horrific.I thought it's a beautiful end because it's a reality check.It really is.
It is. And it doesn't stop.It doesn't stop day to day.And I see things and I know I'm not the only one. I mean, I know that.We know people who all see this and we want to scream out for and let me give you another for instance.This one truly, truly gets me in the very first podcast I did underneath everything in the introduction, I use Barack Obama screaming at his, we have to have a national police force that's as powerful as the United States military, blah, blah, blah.And everybody, and I remember when he did that and everybody was saying, what the hell is he talking about? Right? Well, what he was talking about is defund the police, re-imagine the police.The police are not there. And it started big time during COVID with George Floyd, which we are now discovering was a communist hoax.They all are just like COVID. So you had Floyd and you had COVID.The police are defunded. They're called names.Adams in New York is now, what, they're behind by 400, 1000 police officers?You don't have a police force locally.So what happened? What is the plan? What are the communists doing?Well, we defund, or as Barack says, re-imagine them not being there.And then the Deus Ex Machina, the federal government, comes in and says, we will come in and save you.We will fund the police. Well.You know, the Congress of the United States, the house just passed the money for an FBI building that is bigger than the Pentagon.Now, Barack wanted that, right? They're funding it.They're funding the beginnings of the way the communists imagine the country, a national Gestapo that, is just like Klaus Schwab says, you know, Xi is the perfect model.That's the model for the world that we're going to give you in which you will own nothing but be happier for it.And here are members, Republicans in the House of Representatives funding this building bigger than the Pentagon.Why? We don't need a national police force nor an FBI that needs a building bigger than the Pentagon.But this is the plan. And you get to it, and you can look at every Democratic city that's struggling right now.They're all struggling, and people are saying, why aren't the police coming to help us? You don't have any police.It's not time for the Deus Ex Machina. It's not time for the feds to step in yet. But just keep coming. The commies are coming.The commies are coming, and they're going to come with a solution.But it's going to be a government solution, and you're not going to be happy about it.Anyway...
Where is it? Obviously, when you did your podcast a while ago, then obviously I had watched some of the clips of you on with Jamie Glazov.And I mean, how does, how do things look as, back in those days, there were issues, but it seems to have notched up such a degree.And so kind of how do you see whenever you were commenting focused on the news, you haven't been for quite a while.And these recent podcasts, you're back into observing what is happening.And kind of how do you see it differently with the different issues that we that we now face?
Well, I'll tell you what, you know, you, well, if you, I mean, Jamie is on to everything.I mean, Jamie Glazov, you mentioned, he's nailed it and he's continually continuing to nail it.You sit back and you, I keep saying, I wish I had continued recording.Because I used to record everything. But then when I stopped, because I had to go back to work, I had to make money, you know, you, you, you, but it's, it's, you see, I see better now than I ever have, how the communists, the Marxists, the globalists all together, all working together, how they did it, what was going on behind the scenes.And even though Jamie saw it, I saw it, we didn't do anything about it.We brought it to people's attention, but it was just a small, a small program, actually.You know, it's important to recognize that they had a plan. You don't.When I, here's a side-line.When I was working with Andrew Breitbart, and who I loved, who got me to do things I would never have done in my life, right? And I was having a hamburger with him.And I told him the story of first coming to California.To audition for a TV series. And along the street, there are these vending machines with free newspapers or papers for $25, I mean, 25 cents.And I went to the want ads.This is the truth. I'm an audio fanatic, right? So I went to see if there was anybody, any audio equipment being sold.And I just saw activists wanted activists wanted activists wanted activists wanted activists wanted. Never said what for?Just activists wanted and I said to Andrew I said what the hell is this and he said well, of course, you know. They don't have to say what it's for because only libs are in the activist business, Conservatives are not looking at a centralized world. They want a decentralization of everything there.They are by nature, not activists.Activism is to achieve power.It's to go out, assemble a group, get done what you want to have done, and then grow it.So you need to advertise for people. And you only have to say activist, and you know precisely who you're going to get.And they all want to be at the top of the pyramid, when in the truth is that most of them will end up at the bottom.And then by the time they're ready to revolt, it's too late.And so what these individuals did, these Marxists, socialists, globalists, instead of what they did in the 60s where they went after college students, they then said, no, no, we've got to get them younger. And they went for grade school, preschool.And I'll say this, that the imams in France after 9-11, who said, we soon will own this country.Our armies are growing around Paris right now. I think they got the hints there.And Andrew McCarthy wrote a book called Grand Jihad, which was about how the socialists, Marxism, communists got along really well with the radical Islamists because their ideology was the same.They found each other. One has a god at the head, the other the state.Someday they won't be able to work together.But their ultimate, the ultimate view of the world is totalitarian and they work really well.And they did. They got the ideas to go after the children at the very early. They wanted to.Communists always wanted to destroy the family. They tried.And if you go back to, if you go back to some of the writings in 1920 in Russia, which was to become the Soviet Union, you will see it looks like it was written in the New York Times yesterday, talking about the family's not sufficient.The husband's not sufficient. We need the state to take care of all of the children and mothers. It's just too much. It's just too much.You are an oppressed minority because you're forced to bear children.It's all of this stuff, and they knew what to do, and they have done it.And it scares me that it's possibly too late.I think it's never too late, actually. And I see panic in the works, especially in the United States. but they're doing the same thing in Europe.You see it start there, you see it moved to Canada and then it comes here, but you do see revolt.I think the important thing is to make people aware that this is going on, this is their intention, ultimate control.And how people can, why people wanna be ruled by Klaus Schwab, it's so I just want to say slob, Schwab, why they want to be ruled by that Nazi, I don't understand, but they do.They, they, you know, they, they think they are going to get something for nothing.They actually hear those phrases and they think, oh, that's going to be wonderful.I don't have to worry about anything.I don't have to work. It's going to be given to me.And I have had, I have actually had conversations with people who have said that.And so those things work. I don't, it would never work with me.It wouldn't work with my parents.It wouldn't work with the people. It's not going to work with you, but they don't need it.They only need a minority, a strong minority to say, yes, I want, I want, I want my life taken care of.And it's I wish I had been more active, a greater activist.And the death of Andrew Breitbart was a horrific...
Well, can I ask you that one? Ask you about that liberal destruction that we're seeing. But actually on how did you meet Andrew Breitbart? How did that happen?Oh, that was pure serendipity.I, I've always worn my conservatism on my sleeve. So which is why I'm on cocktail napkins. Don't hire him.Oh, you're one of them. You're one of them. A lot of that, right?And so I never saw it as a zero-sum game, but it made tough, you know, you are not, you're on the outs.And so a friend of mine invited me to a, basically an organization called Friends of Abe.It was modelled after Friends of Dorothy, you know, the conservatives, It was, you know, on the lam in the down low.And there were these small gatherings of people who were conservatives, who were actors, who were having a rough time.And I was at a small meeting and Andrew was at this particular meeting.And the question was, well, what have you experienced in Hollywood, that you would consider, you know, a, you were prohibited from working. Let's put it that way.And I told the story of a producer and I actually, I'm not going to mention his name here.I'll tell you why, but, Andrew heard me tell this story, which was really as a young actor, it was pretty, pretty amazing.He basically, I had come back from working with, Charlton Heston in a play in Los Angeles.And I had wonderful conversations with Heston. I mean, just wonderful conversations.And this producer at this theatre complex heard me, who was quite a big producer in Hollywood, right?He heard me saying glowing things about Charlton Heston.This was before Ronald Reagan won his election in the United States.And he heard me, and he said, well, no Reagan asshole is ever going to work in my production.And I went.I mean, I, believe me, this this theatre group is a small theatre group.I mean, I was I was not prepared for it.And, you know, he laughed and he was waiting for for me to respond in kind, and I just didn't. Right.And so Andrew heard me tell this story and he said, you've got to write this. You've got to write it.You've got to put it in big Hollywood and you have to use your name.And most of the actors, he said, most of the actors who write for me are using pseudonyms.And I said, oh, my God, Andrew, I just don't, you know, no, you have to.If you do, other actors, others in show business will see that you can use your name and you will encourage them to do the same thing.It took me a while to, but I did it. I did it.And in fact, I have to say, I lost a lot of friendship because not only did I write about this producer, but he was dead, and so you don't write about the dead, right?But this was absolutely a true story, and there wasn't anybody who knew him who did not know that it was true.But I lost a lot of friends doing it, but I also gained a lot of friends.And there suddenly, and there's several, several well-known actors who started using their names on big Hollywood and they've done well, they've done very well.And, it was, it was tough, you know, it was a tough thing to do.But it was, but it's a little thing. I mean, think about it using your name to write and say something that's true.But the atmosphere as Orson Bean, who was.Andrew's father-in-law actually said that the atmosphere, inHollywood today was worse than it was during the blacklisting period for the communists.He said, it's actually worse. Conservatives are being treated worse than the communists were.It was. I mean, you are one of them, was a frequent retort, if you said something.And you had to be very careful. You just I just lost a lot of friends.And it always happened at the wrong time. There's never a right time.But Andrew set me on the straight and narrow about this stuff.He he truly was courageous.And he, when I told him the story about the activists, you know, he said, you know, he just said, you have to understand that they, culturally, they are an amalgam.They are powerful because of numbers and they recognize that.We, on the other hand, don't want to do that. And we tend to just say, it'll be all right.It's going to work out. They people can't be that stupid and then you look at this demented individual who's been elected president and people are. They, you know, they don't care and now you're hearing people.Well, I'm not voting for the man I'm voting for the party.This is the new one. I'm not voting for the man.I'm voting for the party and read Edward Dmytryk odd man out.[He was one of the Hollywood ten who realized what was happening and turned on the Communist Party and it's a great book.It's a great book and you begin to see it is a tall order to take on that many people who literally do not care at the end if they have to kill somebody.And you see them turning that on us.You hear Donald Trump being called every name in the bloody book, and yet you are watching one of the greatest crimes I can think of in terms of what's happening in our legal system. It's just a disgrace.And you're going to see a huge, I think.Schism in our judiciary, because there are, I'm sorry to say, John Roberts, there are Trump judges, there are Obama judges, and there are Clinton judges, and they are not getting along well right now in the United States of America.But Andrew was, he really understood culture. He really understood what was what, and he inspired a lot of people.And he changed my life. He changed my life completely.And I began to take special note of how the Marxists, the globalists, the communists work socially and on the bottom end.And when I was working with Jamie, that was sort of the beginning.I mean, I was, that was the beginning of things, but today I really see how they had, you always heard the communists had a five-year plan.No, they had a 30-year plan. They had the long game.Xi has the long game in mind. I mean, to come here while his economy is collapsing, and to get a standing ovation by corporate billionaires is quite an accomplishment.And all of the lies he told, and what he's looking for.They're bailing him out, our enemy.I mean, Sequoia capital that Bannon talks about all the time, you know, they are bailing out our enemy whose military has said they are going to war with the United States and they're going to destroy us.Fine, you know, Khrushchev said, you know, the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.We don't seem to learn. The difference this time is that we actually, they're actually in our government at the highest levels and there has to be a cleaning of the house, there really does and that scares them.
Completely. Can I pick up some you in the middle you're talking about liberals and that anger that activism that destruction which they're running down and I was think well is that because a lack of I mean Christianity has played such a part in U.S. history and U.K. history that we now seem to have that void where Christianity is not there, the church is not there.It's always provided stability and an anchor and an understanding for life.I wonder is it anger because a generation no longer has that certainty?But then I was also thinking when you talked about conservatives not wanting to fight, possibly part of the problem is because many conservatives have a hold of Christianity and maybe they abdicate responsibility.They say, well, God, this is yours, I don't have to do anything.So I wonder is that a double-edged sword that we have?
Oh, listen, what you just said is so true.It is so absolutely true.And I, again, I remember when Barack Obama, before he was president.A couple, I think it was two years before he was suddenly 2006, he said, he said, the United States is no longer a Christian nation.At that time, 70% of the population identified as Christian.So it was a lie, but it was a lie that he was, he wanted to create.He wanted to push into reality.And the removal of prayer, the removal, the attack on organized religion was beginning at that time.And you could see Christians backing off.Backing off. And, you know, well, you're too harsh.It's why Judaism and why the Judeo-Christian ethic, well, they're so judgmental.You know, we have the Ten Commandments. There's so many don'ts.There's so many don'ts. And you're just not warm.And what's the word they use?Oh, inviting that you're just not inviting, you know, you push people away from, because you're, there are things that you have, you say are right and wrong.They went right for the gut.If you say there's right and you say there's wrong, then there's no relativity.And we know that everything is relative. And, of course, I think 9-11, the attack on 9-11 and the, andI do believe this, I don't think most Christians in the United States, not about the rest of the world, but in the United States, knew that there was Islam.I don't think they knew that there was a Muslim world out there.I don't. I don't I I don't think they you know, they're very typical.They're going about their business and not aware.Oh, they knocked down the World Trade Towers. Are they angry about something?You know, oh quick. I think oh. Where's where though it happened here, is the other World Trade Center's in New York.Oh my god You know, it's ah, this is true. I'm gonna tell you a story.Boy, I'm blabbering, right? Listen, listen, listen to this story.This is the last thing I did on camera.It was a TV series about the CIA shot in L.A.And I went into wardrobe, I'm not going to mention, I'm not going to mention who did this or whatever it is, but I went in and this is right after 9-11 and, I'm saying, my God, what an irony, here I am.And I was already moving into the voiceover world because there was, it was far more interesting and more fun.That's it then, than what was happening, but here I am doing this CIA, at the Veterans Administration Cemetery was the site.And I was talking to an employee about 9-11, and what happened and my friends there in New York and how unbelievably incomprehensible it was.This individual said, I don't have any connection with that.I don't have any, I don't have any, you know, I don't have any connection with that, you know, everything will just go on.I mean, literally, and I came home to my wife and I said, I was speechless, which for me, you can tell, I, I know how to talk, right.I was speechless. I couldn't, I cried a little bit because it was, this was not said out of, it was sit out of an emptiness of mind.The enormity of what occurred was and could have obviously I mean, the idea that there were only thirty five hundred people killed that day is just, it should have been thirty thousand thirty five forty thousand.And here was somebody who had no connection with it. And I'm sure she was not, shouldn't have said that.I'm sure that person, was not a bad person, just empty of the import that the world has changed.This was a, this was a statement of war that was cultural and military.And we are seeing it today and people are after the attack and I, if you, if you are a Christian and you don't understand that you are a target of what happened in Israel, you're fooling yourself. This is not going to stop.It's not going to stop. And you are a target.And one of the leaders of Hamas just said it.They say it, and they do it, and they have permission to not kill.You know, the Ten Commandments, it's thou shalt not murder.But they have permission to murder.It isn't. And you need to understand that you're on the list, and it's not wrong to say it.And if you pretend that that's not the case, things are going to get much worse.And I think that's something that we have to come to grips with today, that what's going on is, does not heed well for for the future unless action is taken.So anyway, that was my story about 9-11.
And how do you push back? Because there's obviously when you were doing podcasts back whenever you started with Jamie, there was much.
And before that, I did them before, long before that, before Jamie, but go ahead.
But there were the voices on the scene, the information, the media was more trusted, there were much fewer alternative voices, fewer platforms to put out, just having podcasting platforms now and that wealth of reach that you can now have.Is that a way of pushing it? Because I am not 100% hopeful in a political solution or a legal solution, and I'm wondering, is media a method of wakening up the public to providing that pushback or do people just shrug their shoulders and actually not really care?
Well, you see, the media is certainly part of the control.They have been. I mean, Walter Cronkite, for instance, made no bones about it.The CIA was involved, When it was just CBS, ABC, and NBC in the United States, the CIA was involved in each one of those networks.They are and they have been in control. And once you say, oh, the government actually is in control of the news we get.You then begin to see more clearly that activity underneath.And till the point where we have reached today, where all of the news media are, you only hear the government point of view.They have been exposed by Donald Trump.He exposed them. Steve Bannon and War Room would not exist if it were not for the fact that most people who were on the conservative, who voted for Donald Trump, saw the government spend four years and three billion dollars overthrowing a president of the United States. They all came out of the closet.And an alternative media has bloomed.Hearts of Oak, War Room, which is an, which is basically international now through, and one knows, one is aware of, Klaus slobs, a constant harping on the fact that, you know, or we can remove the internet, you know, it can go down, it will go down to internet. The grid will go.And the threats that are implied there, you know, It's fierce communication.It's like you say, okay, this can happen. That threat is over your head.That this new, all right, we are the alternative.Here is an alternative voice to, and you now know that the government runs ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN for God's sake, you know, run.And it was always that way, but not as exposed as it is today.But the alternative media is absolutely essential.And they're not at the point where they can pull the plug.They're not at that point yet, because then the next step is mass murder.And that's where it comes. It comes in the planning. Of course, they tried it with the vaccines.You have to remember, you have to go back and remember that Davos, the World Economic Forum, had this video, I remember it, of the vaccine being given as your passport, your vaccine passport instead, you know, to everything. And it was a wonderful video.We're killing you as we're giving you your, you know, it's a remarkable situation.But, all of this stuff is right.It's we, we have to find a second grid.I mean, I think that's the only, the only way we're actually going to survive is to have a second grid.And it was the very first thing that, our illustrious president did was when Donald Trump kicked the Chinese out of our electric grid.And the first thing that that Biden did was invite them back in.And I'm sorry, it's a catastrophe waiting to happen.We don't need a sunspot to rain down on us.We have 10, 20,000 Chinese men of military age in the country today.And all of that you have to worry about, you know, and you shouldn't be worrying about that in this world, but the media is.The propaganda, the Wall Street control of our minds, holy cow, it's a proven vessel.And they took it and ran with it. They were exposed.And now we have to undo it all.I don't know. And what you just said, I don't know that that's possible. I don't.But I hope it is. I pray it is. And I think with a lot of hard work, It can, we can save ourselves, we can.But it's going to take a massive amount of energy, a mass, I love, you know, the getting rid of, I love the fact Xi leaves and the next day, we're getting rid of the stoves, we're getting rid of stoves, we're getting rid of gas, we're not gonna drill anymore, we're not, Xi, can you hear this?We're doing what you said. You know, it's like, oh my God, oh my God, it's like, see, it's so sad, it's so incredibly sad and the Congress is going, well, I don't know, it's all going to collapse anyway.I hope it happens soon. You know, I don't know.And I also, I'm beginning to think and give credence to the fact that the vaccinations, have had a mental effect on people, it crosses the blood-brain barrier, and NaomiWolf had suggested that there would be irrational behaviour as a result of it.And I thought, well, no, I think she was probably onto something.
Yeah, that does add up.Final question, on you. In the podcast, it's spending 30, 40 minutes with you and your thoughts.And you're just putting down what you think.
Don't be so harsh, please.
But from your I mean, from a film career, from I mean, from A-Team to Ben 10, I mean, it's diverse.And then video games all mixed in with that. How much of yourself could you put in.You obviously have to excel in acting, in your character, in your voice ability, but how much of yourself were you able or could you put in as an actor?
Well, I mean, that's why, you know, I listen to Jordan Peterson say, if you have anything to contribute, to what you see, this is the time to do it.And it's now, that's it. And I watched what he has been through and others.And what do I have to contribute? I'm an actor.I used to walk around in New York saying, why the hell would anybody pay to see me or anybody? Why?What is it? What is it?Like with the Babylon Bee, if I can, through an absurdity, knock somebody on the head to say, oh my God, I never thought of that.If I can just point out the absolute absurdity of people calling Donald Trump a totalitarian fascist Nazi, when that's what they have been doing.And that is the Alinsky, the famous, you know, his famous statement, you accuse them of what you are doing and they're doing it every day and they get away with it.If you can stop them from getting away with that by voting against them, you know, this whole thing of voting. And of course, I do believe they stole the election.There's no question. And I saw a headline in the paper today about in Arizona, this county in Arizona with 100,000, they couldn't count the ballots.It was they were on the third day and they had made 46 errors.And there was this other.And I thought to myself, Argentina just had an election and 30 million people and all of the votes were counted in one night.Right, but this little county in Arizona and here's a headline, right?And what is this? This headline is telling you, oh, these people who want paper ballots, it's just not gonna happen. It's too hard.It's too hard to count. Try it.Look, how old are you? Shake your fingers, you're not nimble, the papers fall and you have to bend over and it hurts your back.And look, I found another ballot.And there's always another ballot that you're going to find in the paper bank.So, no, no, let's keep the machines and let's keep it electronic, okay? I mean, it's this kind of thing.And you begin to realize, as an actor, I can perhaps, if I'm lucky, once or twice...Click somebody on the head and say okay this is, this is potential this this this I'm not going, (Barking) it's my dog she knows it's about time to stop, oh Ziva stop it.
Has Ziva been on your podcast yet
No, no she hasn't, no she hasn't.
There's a thought
Well you see the podcast, that's why another reason and I wanted to stitch it together.The podcast is 15 minutes takes an entire day.And then I stitch it together, and it's all done. If you have a golden period like this, there's always the potential that the canine who runs the family.Her name is Ziva. Ziva was a character on NCIS, and she left the show.One of our favourite characters. So we had to keep her around.
Yes. Israeli character, I remember.
Yes. Yes. Very, very, very our favourite.But but and the dog is a great German shepherd. Just a great, great dog.But and she does respond to my admonitions because I feed her.It's a good communist household technique. No food.No. But yes, it's you know, it's what I can do. That's it.And Jordan Peterson, I truly do appreciate what he's been through in Canada.And he's so articulate. Oh my God, he articulates.Like he was like Andrew, Andrew Breitbart was articulate.Bannon is articulate. There are so many people who have come out of the woodwork, to, I would not, you, I would not know who you were if it were not for Steve Bannon.You can blame him right.
Well, no, no, no. It's amazing because you're across the pond and you see the world. Who was it?Antonin Scalia spoke at a friend of Abe event, and he said, gather with people of like minds because he discovered in the judiciary, it was, you would be an out, you became an outcast.So he said, don't be an outcast.Gather with like minds there are people who think like you particularly if you see the world correctly, but the more people who say yes that is what I se. It is invasion of the body snatchers, it really is people have been hijacked.Money, sex, when the joke about Epstein not killing himself is not a joke you discover that.And as you know, I said to you, I believe in the Oscar Wilde comment, everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.And power is in everything to some degree.And they have found a way. You don't belong in the club if you can't be blackmailed.That's the entrance fee is blackmail. You are part of it.Then you get all of the benefits. but remember to toe the line.People who don't do that.The Jordan Petersons of the world who up front say, not me, I see the world the way he does.And the idea that Christianity is being attacked and destroyed from every angle, tells me something about the people who are doing it.It doesn't tell me anything about Christianity except that it's a threat.And I go back to what Thomas Jefferson said that if, and anybody can take this, whether you're Christian or not, if Christianity, if there was no Christianity, it would have to be invented.Well, it is real, and it is there, and they're attempting to destroy it.Why? You ask the question why, and you'll change your mind about the world.And look at the people who want to destroy it and how they want to destroy it, in little increments.It is the crocodile, it's Winston Churchill said it, you know, the crocodile, you're hoping that the crocodile will eat you last, and the crocodile is real.But Christianity is there, it was, and I do believe. Some of the most thoughtful Jews like Dennis Prager, rabbis, that I have listened to and I have spent some time talking to them, It is, there are things that are a force for good are recognized by everybody and things that are a force for evil are also recognized, hang around people who recognize both.And Jordan Peterson, I tip my hat to you and to you, Peter, and to Bannon and to everybody.That has been an inspiration to me.I don't think I could get around. I mean, it's hard sometimes listening to the truth. You know it. I know it.And I know a lot of people who cannot listen to it. And really, I mean, seriously, they're affected in a way.I can't. I can't do it. I can't. I just can't listen to that. I can't read that.I don't want to know that.Well, you have to know it because it will affect your life.Dwight, it's wonderful to have you on. I think speaking with you, getting to know you is the top of my surreal list of the last four years watching when you're, I don't know if I was seven or eight, I think, A-Team.I don't know if it was for, seven or eight-year-olds.
Yeah, it was it was it was a comic book with heroes, you know, and the heroes happened to be Vietnam veterans and that was the the Tribute to Steven J.Cannell and he was attacked for it There you go.
I don't know if you want a crazy helicopter pilot, but anyway, that's that's a whole that's a whole other, Dwight, thank you so much for coming on.It's been wonderful having you on the podcast and there's the the link again on the screen.And maybe we'll have you back for another video interview sometime in the near future. Who knows?
And, you know, if I can, any time, you know, I'm I'm a I'm a blabbermouth.You know, I'm I'm a mugger. I am.You know, I admit what I am. I'm not a great, listen. I always knew I wasn't going to be a movie star.I always knew it because I couldn't ride a horse.Movie stars can, they get on a horse for the first time.And I got on a horse and the horse turned around and went the opposite direction.It's true. It's true. In fact, there was a horse riding scene in a movie I did called Fat Man and Little Boy, and I'm riding on it.And it was a galloping scene, and it never made it into the movie.And I'm coming into the scene, and I went flying off the horse onto the ground.That was me. No movie star here. None. I knew it. I accept my fate.Thank you Pete.
Well Dwight, it's so good to have you on. Thanks so much for your time.



Sunday Nov 26, 2023
The Week According To . . . Leilani Dowding
Sunday Nov 26, 2023
Sunday Nov 26, 2023
Beauty, brains, integrity and common sense.You couldn't ask more for a Saturday night!This is The Week According To . . . Leilani Dowding.Leilani joins Peter to discuss the talking points from the news and we dig a little deeper into some of the posts from her very popular X account.
Topics in the spotlight this episode...- Hold the Line/Challenge the Narrative: Upcoming event with Andrew Bridgen MP and Carl Benjamin in London.- Dublin riots: Immigration's complicated role in growing Ireland's "far right"- “Far-right” is when you’re against the stabbing of children.- Scum Media: Imagine focusing on the protesters but not the children that were stabbed?- Is it time for street justice when the legal system won’t do the right thing?- UFC superstar and proud Irishman comes out swinging.- Scum media: Sky news accuse Israelis of valuing Palestinian lives less than Israelis.- Blair is a clear and present danger.- Whitewash: The 'Covid Inquiry' is not asking the right questions.- Scum Media: Hit job on Laurence Fox's girlfriend.- Make Argentina Great Again? Argentina's Trump, Javier Milei wins presidential election.
Leilani Dowding is a regular contributor to The Mark Steyn Show.Half-Filipina, half-English, she is a former Page Three Girl and was crowned Miss Great Britain in 1998, going on to represent her country in the Miss Universe pageant.Leilani had a starring role in The Real Housewives of Cheshire and has appeared on The Big Breakfast, This Morning, Celebrity Wrestling and in numerous national newspapers.She is a proud 'Freedom Fighting Refusnik' and an unmissable commentator on world affairs. With her stance against tyranny and wokeness, Leilani has found a whole new army of fans.
Connect with Leilani...X https://twitter.com/LeilaniDowding?s=20
HOLD THE LINE - CHALLENGE THE NARRATIVETuesday 12th December LIVE in LondonAn Evening of Conversation and Discussion With...ANDREW BRIDGEN MP & CARL BENJAMINTickets on sale now https://www.tickettailor.com/events/davidpeterevents/1067181
Originally broadcast live 25.11.23
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Links to topics discussed...Hold the Linehttps://www.tickettailor.com/events/davidpeterevents/1067181https://x.com/ABridgen/status/1728001215810740629?s=20Dublin riotshttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-67523846“Far-right”https://x.com/ChayaRaichik10/status/1727830794285269372?s=20Children stabbedhttps://x.com/LeilaniDowding/status/1728032631910973575?s=20 VIDEOStreet justice https://x.com/LeilaniDowding/status/1727976218627104967?s=20Conor McGregorhttps://x.com/TheNotoriousMMA/status/1727834987838243140?s=20Sky news https://x.com/KonstantinKisin/status/1727829288211067199?s=20 VIDEOBlair https://x.com/thecoastguy/status/1728032229031354754?s=20 VIDEOCovid Inquiry https://x.com/Togetherdec/status/1727968406366822884?s=20Lozza Foxhttps://x.com/LeilaniDowding/status/1727627980216631351?s=20Javier Mileihttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-67470549



Saturday Nov 25, 2023
International COVID Summit 4 - The War Room Interviews
Saturday Nov 25, 2023
Saturday Nov 25, 2023
International COVID Summit 4 - The War Room Interviews
Dr Robert Malone - Dr Ryan Cole - Christian Terhes MEP - Dr Stephen Hatfill - Jason Christoff - Dr Sorin Muncaciu MEP - Nick Hudson
International COVID Summit 4Palace of The Parliament Bucharest Romania November 18-20th 2023
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Steve Bannon's War Room https://warroom.org/
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Thursday Nov 23, 2023
David Vance & Peter Mcilvenna - Hold the Line: Challenge the Narrative
Thursday Nov 23, 2023
Thursday Nov 23, 2023
Andrew Bridgen MP and Carl Benjamin have both suffered from their willingness to stand up for what they believe in and for speaking truths. Which is why they are the perfect guests for the first ever David Vance/Hearts of Oak event. David joins us to discuss what lay behind the reasoning and planning for this event on the 12th December, why Andrew and Carl are so important in getting the message out and why we need to move from an online conversation to in person events. This will be the first of many and Mr Vance explains why we have started in London and what our future plans are.
Hold the Line - Challenge the Narrative LIVE IN LONDON 12/12/23 https://www.tickettailor.com/events/davidpeterevents/1067181
An Evening of Conversation, Discussion and Q&A featuring Andrew Bridgen MP and Carl Benjamin
Hosted by David Vance and Peter Mcilvenna - Sponsored by Quantum Hypno www.quantumhypno.co.uk
Andrew Bridgen MP has courageously sought to hold Government to account for the disturbing adverse reactions to Covid vaccines that it assured people were safe and effective. On the night we will discuss his experiences, frustrations and his hopes to get justice for the vaccine injured and bereaved.
Carl Benjamin of Sargon of Akkad fame is one of our most original and distinguished thinkers. Carl has established the successful Lotus Eaters platform and describes himself as an Englishman, Postmodern traditionalist, and a sensible centrist. Free Speech is under attack and Carl will discuss how he sees the future working out for our ability to speak freely.
Interview recorded 22.11.23
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Monday Nov 20, 2023
Richard Vobes - Should We Be Disruptive?
Monday Nov 20, 2023
Monday Nov 20, 2023
Show Notes and Transcript
Richard Vobes spent years as The Bald Explorer, for a decade he travelled throughout England and uploaded his experiences on his popular YouTube channel to show English culture and history. A year ago he changed tack and begun to comment on the encroaching tyranny we are all facing and this is now his primary focus.He joins Hearts of Oak to discuss 'Should we be Disruptive?' This is the name of one of his YouTube playlists and is the question many of us are now asking ourselves. We find ourselves in a post party political, post legal system, post police society, when trust in our institutions collapses, what should our response be? Richard gives his views on where these leave us, sows some seeds of positivity and gives his thoughts on how we move forward.
Richard Vobes, also known as The Bald Explorer is a film maker and amateur historian with a very popular YouTube channel. He has noticed that the world is an odd place at the moment and everything you thought you knew is clearly not right.Richard uses his channel to express concerns over the way things are in the world. Particularly that which affects us here in England.He ponders the mysteries, questions the narrative and tries to get to the truth, hoping to uncover some of the secrets.Richard proclaims he is not an expert, but just uses a little critical thinking, some common sense added with a touch of the whimsical.
Connect with Richard...YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@RichardVobesWEBSITE: https://richardvobes.com/
Interview recorded 15.11.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Richard Vobes. It is wonderful to have you with us. Thanks so much for your time today.
Richard Vobes
Oh, it's my pleasure. Absolute pleasure. Thank you very much, Peter, for asking me.
Not at all. It's great to have you on.And I've actually seen you recently, and maybe for the viewers, people can find you.Mainly, I think your focus is on your YouTube channel, is @RichardVobes, there on the screen and the links are in the description and we're going to look at one of your, I think one of your set of videos was 'Should we be Disruptive?' and that opens up a whole range of issues, that playlist you've done, but for the viewers and listeners, a lot of our US based viewers and listeners may not have come across you, you go under many different titles, English Couple, The Bald Explorer, and where you explore British history.Traveling all over and looking at what it is to be English and understand that.You started that back in 2011, I think, so 13 years ago.But over the last year, you've moved and you did a video on it to highlight that you are moving into more opinion pieces and to give your thoughts on, I guess, the tyranny which we all face.And a range of your videos all about common law, which we'll maybe touch on as something which I really have stayed away from, talk about privacy, King Charles to attend COP28, why are so many airline pilots dying, the fear monster is dying, time to take back control.I mean, a lot of the issues and areas that we certainly address here at Hearts of Oak.But maybe, first of all, to start with, that was a big change and a big change in focus from actually exploring British history, looking at England, and actually you've changed your focus and that change of focus has come with a massive change in reach as well and increase maybe we can start there before we get into 'Should we be Disruptive' and so tell us about that change and what triggered it and what that has meant.Well as you said, and thank you again for bringing me on to your program, my original focus was looking at the country I live in, the country I love, which is England, and heritage, landscape, nature, and all those sort of things.Initially, I was quite interested in the fact that England was kind of being written out of history.We were Great Britain, but there was Scotland and there was Wales.But if you were English, it became a difficult thing for some reason.And I wanted to reclaim the flag and say, what's wrong with proud of being English?Not for any overly national interest, just to say, look at the beautiful buildings, look at the wonderful geology and the landscape, and of course, the nature.But as I was making my videos, I became more and more aware that actually we were building over and destroying this wonderful land with lots of new builds whose architecture was quite bland and quite mean and smaller and smaller and it was all about money and we'd sort of lost I think a lot of our heritage and the things that people had fought for in the wars and then of course that made me very much aware that the government was pushing ideas down that nobody really wanted.And if I started to talk about some of these one world government policies that were influencing our government and then being pushed on us, I couldn't find very many people who'd sort of asked for them other than those that were arguing for the global warming to be debated more.But it was always on one side.So I found my audience just didn't want to talk about, if I mentioned, you know, is, questioned, is global warming a thing as it's been portrayed, man-made global warming.People would either suddenly go, I'm not interested in your channel, just like that, because I was questioning it, and they would whiz off, and same with friends, and then because we went through Brexit, did you want to be in the EU or out of the EU, and that became such a polarized thing, you couldn't say, well actually that's quite good about the EU and that's quite good about not being in the EU. It was either in or out.And of course the referendum forced you to make a decision if you wanted to take part in it.And I had my ideas because I'm old enough to remember before we were in it and thought well actually you know we did have an empire, not that I'm arguing for that necessarily, but we are able to stand on our own two feet and we don't need to keep acquiescing to the something that fits other countries that may not fit us.But again it was one of those things that you could not question or if you fell on the wrong side of the narrative you were always deemed to be stupid and so I just accepted that I was obviously stupid for my beliefs.Then of course we went through the the period of three years ago when people were locked in their houses because something was floating about in the air that we couldn't see and was on every surface and was liable to kill left, right and centre.And if you spoke again against that, the strange effect of the general public of not wanting to address it or changing or questioning the narrative, even though eminent scientists were saying, hang on, we've got this Great Barrington Declaration that says, should we do this approach, maybe there's another science.And then we continually got the notion that no no, the science is fixed or we're following the science and of course now all of that is up for question but some of us were questioning it early on but were shut down because of that.And so we came to last year, about a year ago, this month actually in which I was watching GB News and Neil Oliver was asking about the fuel crisis that we'd seen to be coming into because there was a war going on which nobody talks about at the moment because there's another war going on.So people have sort of got distracted somewhere else.But anyway we're talking about the fuel crisis and he said well people are suffering, what would happen if nobody paid their bill? And I thought, what a clever idea, you know, people power, because I've always thought grassroots is the key, really, to a lot of things.So I made a video saying, is he right?And suddenly, and that was so different from what I was doing, but where I would get, say, I don't know, 2,000 to 3,000 views on a video.If I was lucky, over a week, I got 100,000 views over a matter of days.And I followed it up with a couple of others on a similar vein.And suddenly I was then in the opinion market and going down the rabbit holes and regurgitating my thoughts on this.And the audience were just coming in swathes.And very soon I'd hit the 100,000 mark and we're something like 180,000 subscribers now.Which validated that there is an audience who desperately want to discuss this, talk about it, think about it, and they already knew the problems.And some people were coming in, because people were saying, you know, Richard, you're a bit like the Alan Titchmarsh of the conspiracy theorists, because you're sort of Mr.Nice Guy, but you're dropping in the fact that the nasty people want to depopulate us.And so it became something that people could share with people who were perhaps not awakened to those ideas, which was great.And it was, I never planned any of this.So, yeah, so that was the sudden growth. And here am I, pretty much a year later, going, wow, what a journey.
I love it when things happen you don't plan it. Same here, my background in politics we mentioned the wonderful Liz Phillips and of course working with her in politics and then moving over and and I've loved part of the media side of engaging with people that we will probably have very similar views on many issues yet you focus on YouTube, we focus on alternate platforms, you're more UK based in England where we're a lot of European, international and it's lovely how those connect together.But if I can ask you, the whole issue of being disruptive and it's something which I think we've all thought about over the tyranny which we have faced under COVID in the last three years and there are a number of areas but I think the political pantomime we have seen in the last few days and I think we see Westminster, the national politics set up to actually have consensus and just keep it going, don't rock the boat, don't come in with massive alternative views and you just step by step ticks over and it's fun when you see someone actually calling the government out like what has happened, not that I believe we'll see any change.How do you see that kind of national politics? Are we purely post-party politics?Did you engage in politics? Do you engage less now? I mean how do you see that kind of national political side happening?Well, going back, as you say, did I engage in politics?I mean, you know, growing up, you're aware my parents always voted conservative.I think because of my interest in landscape, nature and heritage, and living on the south coast here in a fairly affluent town, it felt perfectly normal to vote conservative.I thought, and I've never been terribly political in the past, I always assumed that the Conservatives were about conserving things, as in the name, and keeping traditions and customs and all of that.And of course in recent times I've seen that that's not what they're about at all.And so that's questioned now when I've gone into the voting booth and thought, well, what am I actually voting for?But then I look at the other party and you think of the Labour Party as the only opposition that's likely to make a big difference and get in.And we've seen how that's been changed from what it originally was.And my sister is very much a labour person, she works in the NHS, so she's very much in believing the rights of people and of workers and those sort of things.And I've been self-employed, so of course I've been self-employed most of my life, So I believed in a small capitalist society in which independent sole traders, small family-run businesses can thrive.And I'm totally against these very large corporations that seem to dominate the landscape in every town and across the world and knocking out the small independents.So it's very difficult to find a home now, I think, if you are an independent, self-employed person because none of the parties represent me.Then, of course, you've got, as I have gone through this last year's journey, of realizing, that as individuals, as sovereign people, we are living under corporations, that we live now in corporate Britain here and that the government isn't even an assembly.It isn't what you think it is. It is this for-profit corporation and when you look at both parties, none of them represent the two sides, shall we say, of a country anymore.They seem to be, you've either got tyranny or increased tyranny it seems to me and depending on where you want to put. So and the other thing is, When we vote, we're voting for a pre-selected bunch of nutters, it seems to me, rather than electing our own people who we could vote for.And it seems if you're sovereign, you should be electing people in your area, not those that have been put up and says, well, I'm going to be your candidate and you've got no choice.And I think the whole system is wrong. and now I just feel, and I suppose I've come to this because of the huge awakening, that the whole parliament system itself, the whole two-tier system and the MPs, and everything, is over.And it's none of the above and we need a completely new way of governing or managing, I suppose, administrating the country rather than this this government that's decided that it is sovereign and not the people that they are our masters and that we somehow are their servants and I can't square that anymore and and you know using things like common law or natural law, just the logic of that seems to harmonize with me.So man comes first, man is on the planet, and he looks about and he goes, well, if we don't organize ourselves, we may not get stuff done.It would be better if we could organize it ourselves.So let's arrange for a bunch of people to sort of run something like a parliament.But it means that man's organized that, so man must come first.The creator is in charge, not the created, But it does seem now that the creation is coming back and saying, well, actually, the monster is now in charge, and I think that that is over.And the more we realize that we, the people, have the power, hence being disruptive to them, and claiming back our responsibilities, what we ought to do, because otherwise we are going down, as we've all seen, a very dark passage in the history of humanity.
The whole common law is intriguing and I've had many conversations with Liz on this and I am extremely sceptical of it.You know what it's like, whenever you do a lot of interviews, a lot of topics, there are only so many things you can actually delve into and understand.I'm down enough rabbit holes without necessarily going down another and that's something I've left to the side.But kind of I see that we are fighting within the system and I don't think that we can use the legal system on our side or the political system on our side.And this whole concept of common law that actually we can remove ourselves from that system and I'm still trying to work through that.And it's not that I completely disagree with it, it's that I haven't had the time to delve into it.So maybe touch on that and why is that a solution and part of the disruptive model?Well, I think, well let me first of all explain, I'm, you know, I've only been doing this a year and as like you, you know, you touch on so many subjects but common law keeps coming up or natural law, God's law, so many variations of it, the freeman of the land thing, the law of admiralty, there's so much to it and I interviewed a group, the common law group, in Herefordshire only yesterday in the video.Or the day before it went out yesterday, and I asked them plainly, you know, can you give me a definition of common law that I can hand to the viewers? And they said it's common sense.It is ultimately, when it comes down to it, is common, ruling by common sense in a way.What makes logical sense to you and I, if we're all, for example, if we're all born equal, i.e.We come into this world with nothing, what gives anybody else the right to be above us and to say you will be my slave unless we agree to it?And now, in life, we do agree that we will acquiesce to certain things because it makes sense to.So for example having rules of the road, so here in in England we drive on the left and it seems sensible that if everybody drives on the left we're not going to bump into each other as we drive up and down the roads because the coming traffic will also be driving on our right but to them it's the left if you see what I mean and of course you have that in different in different countries.So some rules just make perfect sense that we can agree to rather than just saying we'll drive any old where whatever we like because we're all just sovereign individuals.So clearly we need a set of rules that make sense but it's where we have the rules get tied up into these things called acts and legislation.The legal and you've got legalese, you've got the people who are administering this, taking two oaths to a private bar guild association, a guild of your judges, your clerks of the court, your solicitors and barristers, who are effectively, again, part of a corporate world that are there to make money.And of course, the history of all of this goes right back to Roman times, to the Vatican, part of canon law, in which they needed a flat, I'm going to put it like this, they needed a flat earth, but not the flat earth as in flat earth theory about the planet, but putting people on paper so that they can be administered.So, we as living people with blood in us and brains and flesh and all of that, the corporations can't deal with us.They need to have a fiction version of us, which is why we have capitalized names.And they deal with this. And we sort of act as the agent for these fictionalized names. So the Richard Vobes that you see on a bit of paper isn't really me, it's just a representation of me.They can deal with us on paper and it's all done on paper.I mean everything is done on paper. We always have to either agree to something or we rebut something with parking fines and poll tax, council tax and all of that, when you go into the courts.And acts are, you know, it's theatre.That's why it's called an act. It's not law.Law is more to do with things that are immutable. You know, the law of gravity, you can't change the law of gravity.Common sense, in a way, is common to most people.Don't hurt someone, don't murder somebody, because you're damaging them, you're hurting them, you wouldn't want it to happen to you.So, I think we can live by a number of very simple policies, if I can use that word, or laws would be better, rather than having a whole load of legislation that most of us don't know what are.And we only have to look at the solicitors when you go into their rooms, and they've got all these books of case studies and laws and this and that.And how is man ever supposed to memorize all of this and try and stay on the right side?You can't. But you can say, if you do no harm, do no damage.That's something very easy. and if you have a problem...We could go back to the system that common law used to have and have members of our community, our peers, 12 juries, to sort of make the decision whether we've been behaving properly or even if the law itself is sensible because some laws that get made might not be sensible.You know, some of the legislation we've got, if you accidentally drive into a bus lane at night time and there's no traffic and a camera takes a photograph of you.Where's the crime really? Where's the victim? No one's been hurt.And yet you'll get a ticket for whatever it is, 50 quid, 100 quid, and then a whole load of things if you don't pay.And yet all you've done is you've travelled a conveyance on tarmac in a painted box that someone's painted and you've been penalised when there's no vehicle.You know, so some of it is just ridiculous and you're 12 just men and women sitting around ought to be able to say, well, actually, you know, that's a stupid rule. If it's three o'clock at night, there's no other traffic.Where's the damage? Where's the pain? Why are we stressing people?But we have that system. And of course, now we have cameras everywhere and we have these rules coming in, which are stopping people from traveling one side of their town to another.And people are taking the biometrics in the supermarkets.And we have this advent of the CBDCs, the Central Bank Digital Currencies, programmable money, that somebody else could make the decision whether you have the right to buy something or not.Well, this is absolute tyranny and again, this is not humane.It's just anti-human policies.So I think a much simpler system can be worked and sensible people with common sense could work that out.We've, looking at politics, we've seen fewer and fewer people engaging in the process and I think when I grew up I would have been more of the Australian, you know, you should make it mandatory, everyone should participate, but then when you look at the candidates and you realise actually one, it doesn't make any difference and two, there's no one there that actually believes or stands up for anything, which I think is right in society.I mean, where does that go? Because you look over in France, you've got the yellow vest, you've got actually on the streets, and it's part of French culture to push back, to remove yourself from the labour market, to fight back.We kind of have a more shrug of the shoulders.And when I look at the political, I think, how low does that dissent in terms of not engaging in the political system, and how bad does that have to be until something changes?And it's simply just not voting. Is that enough disruption to the system to bring any change?
Well I think one of the problems is that we have, and I think it is intentional, we have been, dumbed down, we've lost interest in our local environment.We used to have radio stations, local radio stations, not regional radio stations, that talked about the things that went on in our environment.We used to have local papers.And slowly and slowly, I mean, the internet sort of killed a lot of that because podcasts and other things came along, of course.And we've just taken our eye off the ball so that at a local level, the councils can start to bring in measures.We've lost that sense of going to a council meeting and thinking of the town as our town or our village, whatever, and saying actually, no, I don't want that.You know, every now and again, I'll see a lamppost with a notice that they have to put out to say, oh, we're going to make these changes to this road or we're going, you know, these people have got a, they want to put an extension on which will block out the sun of your house.But most people aren't reading them.People have lost that sense of the importance of being active in their community.And we've all been distracted with all this technology and the games that people can play and the, you know, the Netflix series is, and more and more the government said, well, we'll do that for you.We'll do that for you. You don't have to worry about that, we'll do it.And I feel that we're in this process now, or this moment in time now, where we've really got to wake up and say, and take back the responsibility for things again, and not continually say, oh, the government should do this for us, or the council should be doing that.You see some litter on the ground, you should pick it up.We should just get back into that mode of this is our road, this is our street, this is our neighbours, these are our people. We've lost all of that.We used to have youth clubs that kids would go and do things together.Now they're stuck behind their phones.Again, I think that this is, not only is it progression of technology, but I think it's also hugely manipulated that we are not engaged in the way we saw during the pandemic that a lot of the pubs were closing, but they were closing before that you know the price of of beer and the amount of tax that people are having to pay on basically socializing and being in each other's company in which you would sort of put the world to rights you may not do anything because might have been too blatted to actually do it.But the general interest in your town, and of course we've seen a lot of migration in which we have people from different places and people also have worked now.They're moving around the country for their different work.So then, and jobs aren't lasting as they were.People change jobs every two or three years instead of being in a job for life.Now, I'm not saying that's a good or bad thing.It's just all these different things seem to have made people no longer put roots down in a place and think of it as their place.You know, you think about the old days when your door was always open, your mum could just pop in, a neighbour would go, oh, come, have you got any sugar?All this sort of, all this neighbourly stuff. Now, you know, we're very guarded.We don't know who our neighbours are anymore. We've got those dreadful, well, I haven't, but people have those dreadful doorbells with cameras on so you can see who people are.Probably sensible to know who people are coming to the door because there might be bailiffs and you may not want to engage with them. But that's taking, you know, all this technology is then taking data from you.And we see the surveillance technologies going up and all of this and 5G.But people just are not...We have slowly and slowly, we have become more isolated from each other and we're not doing what we used to do.And I think that's the biggest problem. and it's great to see that more and more grassroots initiatives are coming up trying to bring people back together again because it is people power that will push back against the tyranny.
And when you talked about that individualism, I wonder will that get worse with the push against the surveillance system we've seen with that move and I know you've done a video on this recently about privacy and we're trying to regain your privacy, fighting for that.And we realized that actually we are the commodity, that we are being sold, our information, us, and that is valuable these days.And kind of, how does that fit in? Because you're right, we don't really know those around us, our neighbours.We've got that kind of a level of privacy, but on the other side, actually because of the online world and what's creeping in, we have zero privacy and you think it's possible to regain that and that is part of the disruptive mechanism of regaining control over our own lives.Yeah, well, I mean it is down to us at the end of the day, it is down to us to realize what's going on and I think some people, probably not enough but some people are beginning to become aware that, and the interesting thing about this of course is, I mean I people asked me to do talks at events and in village halls and things and you turn up.And it's usually people in the 50s plus.It's people who have one leg in the analogue world.And of course, they've now got a leg in the digital world. But they can see the benefits of the old days.The younger people who have been brought up, and my children in their late 20s and early 30s, and I can see how, even though I have my thoughts, they push back against my conspiracy nonsense.They think that I'm a raving loony.But they've embraced totally the digital separation world.And so it seems to me that it is down to this generation of slightly older people, to encourage the rest to get together and do things.I interviewed a young chap who was 30, 28 actually.And he said to me, and this was a real eye-opener for me, I'm 60, he said I really envy your age group because you guys can talk to anybody in the street, at a bus stop, you have a conversation with people, you know, behind the, at the till in shops or whatever, you just have, you know, you're not worried about it.And I said well don't you?And he said no, young people do not talk to, unless they know each other.He said even going into the gym where you see the familiar faces, it's just all right, watch out, how you doing?It's you know it's that because they, they've forgotten how conversation goes, of just starting a conversation with without wanting any more out of it you know.And I said, but, you know, we'll go down and I'll say, oh, that's a nice hat you've got on there. Or isn't it dreadful weather?Or do you want to borrow my umbrella? Or cor blimey, let me carry your bag.You know, those sort of, just that's how I was brought up.But it does seem that young people aren't able to do that. And that, to me, was a huge eye opener.And I thought, my God, this is worse than I thought.Because if people can't, if younger people, where the next generation are unable to communicate on a very just simplistic level of, hi, how are you doing?Let me help you with that type thing, or have you heard, or, you know, I mean, when I was young, of course, you went to school and you'd been watching, I don't know, the same programs on the television.Did you see the $6 million man yesterday? Oh yeah, that was great, Steve Austin and his, but now, of course, you've got no references to start conversations with because everybody's playing different games, watching different programs, and they're not joining together to say, oh, did you watch that latest thing from Richard Vobes or whatever, unless they're of a certain age group in a certain bracket.And that, I think, is a sad thing that we've lost conversation.And I think it's that, it's having that disgruntled complaining that we do best, you know, cor blimey, you've seen what's, you know, they've just had David Cameron's come back.Oh my God, next they'll be getting Blair back. Oh no, he won't be, he's going to be head of the WEF.And it's those sort of things that you want to get people having that communication.
You made a comment earlier about, you know, those notices you see on the lampposts, there's going to be a huge block.I know the latest one I have, sadly living in London is it's only going to be a 34 story block.That's going to be just across the way and it keeps getting higher.And I find people complaining and actually the development that we have is the third time it's been submitted.And they basically know that if they just keep submitting it with 10 centimetres difference, eventually they'll get their way.And I think you did a video on a local council, Biggleswick think it was, about having a change and is that possible, people engaging at the local level, is that an example of what can happen or is the kind of the uni-party system still got control of the local council side?Well I think people generally are a bit like water and that they'll always find the path of least resistance.So if you can demonstrate a life that is better for them, on the whole, they'll all go along with it. So.My video about Biggleswick, which is a fictitious place, it's not a real place.Although it's growing in people's ideas, in reality, is the notion that the people of a town just decided that the anti-human policies coming from the council that they never asked for, should not happen and if they go to the council and simply say, we don't want it and the council say, well you're having it, that the people who pay their council tax allegedly to the council ought to be the ones that make the ultimate decision and if they can't make the ultimate decision because that council won't do it then it strikes me that they should then set up a parallel council, pay the money to that parallel council, make the first council obsolete and nothing to do with them.Because if you can convince your town, if it's a small town of, I don't know, 100,000 people, and 80,000 of those are pretty much on your side.And they said, well, actually, yeah, we'll fund it and we'll do it all properly.We'll do the minutes, we'll have the meetings, we'll do elections.And we'll do the things we want and those things we don't want.If we don't want a 20 mile an hour speed limit everywhere, yes, outside the school might be a sensible solution, but it might not be sensible for everywhere.And if we don't want cameras and if we don't want supermarkets coming in, muscling and getting rid of the independent companies that have our family run and have been here for years and part of our culture and generation and people who've worked there, and then they're putting in cameras and photographs.If we don't want that, this is our town.And I think that's what people have got to begin to realize, that they do have the power, we all have the power collectively, and if we can organize ourselves and if we can break away from that spell of looking at the screens and letting other people have wonderful lives, and sort of, you know, the people on the screen have all this lovely life that they're having, we could ditch that and actually have the lovely lives by saying to the council, you're irrelevant.If you won't do what we will do, we can still have our bins collected, we can still have the lights put on.We may want to not have those slightly worrying blue LED lights that you keep putting up.We may not want the 5G, for example, because, to be honest, do we really need to download movies in six seconds?Is there a nefarious use that they're also being put? What about the radiation?We should think about that a bit more. After all, we're advancing with this technology.We don't know what the effect is in 20, 50 years it will have on us.Maybe we should just slow down a little bit here.I think people power could do that. And I don't see how the 20 or 30 people who sit around the tables and think they're very important with their pensions and their portfolios in front of them, what they could do to it.I mean, admittedly, the government might be a bit upset, but if you've got 100,000, people saying, it's our town, these are our buildings, we've paid for these public buildings, and let's face it, the councils themselves are all going bankrupt at the moment, they're all in debt by hundreds of millions, I think people could do a far better job.
Absolutely, I think it's important and it is a call for action for people to re-engage.I think we have trusted those in charge for too much for too long. It is time to re-engage.Richard, I love, it's great chatting with you.One of the things I love about the whole media space, having people on who you actually haven't met and meet for the first time and have on.I think what you're doing in your channel actually does provide hope because you realize people may be less concerned about the green belt, but 15 minute cities actually are a concern.And you realize when you connect with people on issues that actually they realize does impact them and they want to speak up, and it is vital that the public are educated and empowered.I think what you're doing on your channel does exactly that.So thank you so much for coming on and giving us your time today.
Oh, it's it's my absolute pleasure. and I think we do need optimistic channels out there because there's so many people telling us the problem.Now is the time to look for the solutions in an optimistic way.So I appreciate the chance to come on and have an optimistic grumble.
Not at all. Always good. And thank you so much to the viewers.Make sure, and if you're not following Richard, then make sure and follow him @RichardVobes there on YouTube and take advantage of the information he is putting out. So Richard, once again thank you so much.Thank you so much Peter, really enjoyed it.



Friday Nov 17, 2023
Dwight Schultz - Its Alright to be Dwight: #005
Friday Nov 17, 2023
Friday Nov 17, 2023
Welcome to 'Its Alright to be Dwight'A podcast with the television, film and voice actor Dwight Schultz, exclusive to Hearts of Oak.This episode Dwight takes aim at Government Betrayals, Stolen Elections, Societal Issues, Pope Bergoglio, Paedophiles, Cover Ups, The Destruction of Society and Radical Ideologies.
A respected performer on Broadway, Dwight Schultz found everlasting fame by playing the certifiable "Howling Mad" Murdock on the action series "The A-Team" (1983-86).A living, breathing cartoon with a seemingly endless selection of voices and accents at his command, Murdock provided the air power for the A-Team's clandestine adventures, provided that his compatriots could break him out of the mental hospital where he resided.One of the show's most popular and memorable figures, Murdock ensured Schultz steady work on television and on the big screen playing Reginald Barclay in "Star Trek: The Next Generation"An accomplished voice actor, Dwight can be heard in numerous hit computer games and in countless animated shows. To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/
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