Hearts of Oak Podcast

Tera Dahl - Time for Republicans to Champion Legal Law-Abiding Immigration and Stop the Green Card Jabs

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Tera Dahl joins Hearts of Oak, bringing her deep understanding of policy and her many years experience in the media. She has worked on Capital Hill in Michele Bachmann's office in Congress, in the Trump administration in the White House and most recently at USAID. Her Media expertise started with Breitbart and she now works with Real America Voice. Immigration and foreign policy are two of her areas of unbridled knowledge and she shares with us her concerns that Green Card law-abiding immigrants are being faced with a choice. Either they take the COVID shot or their application will not be processed. Green Card or your life. But a different story for those entering illegally, they are not forced to take the jab.The Republicans need to be championing this issue and standing up for law and order and the right to choose what toxins go into your body. Tera also shares her concerns at the out of control Fentanyl problem seen in many urban areas in the US. We finish by asking why the US have abandoned their role of intervention abroad and retreated from everywhere....except Ukraine.
Article in Gateway Pundit...'It’s Time for Republicans to Champion the Rights of Legal Law-Abiding immigrants and Stop the Green Card Jab Mandates' by Peter Mcilvennahttps://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/07/its-time-republicans-champion-rights-legal-law-abiding/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=its-time-republicans-champion-rights-legal-law-abiding
Interview recorded 14.7.23
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(Hearts of Oak)
Hello Hearts of Oak and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Tera Dahl, who I've got to know over the last few months. She served with Michelle Bachmann as her Chief of Staff. She was also in the Trump administration, National Security Council, and she brings to us a wealth of knowledge of policy, but also from her media background, Breitbart and Real America Voice, and she joins us today to talk about immigration.
This issue that legal immigrants must get a COVID jab. If you want your green card status to be finalised, you must go for medical check and have a COVID jab, despite the mandates all being lifted, despite illegals flooding over the border. And we talk about this issue, why it needs to be a key issue for MAGA and Trump. We talk about immigration being so politicised. Then we talk about other things like fentanyl, the drug issue that's happening in America, how it has blighted American society. And then we end up talking to Tera about her great expertise and understanding of geopolitical events. She's travelled to Afghanistan, Iraq, to many war-torn countries by herself with Michelle Bachmann, but also with USAID and she shares that understanding of geopolitical issues. 
Tera Dahl, it is wonderful to have you with us today.Thank you so much for your time. 
(Tera Dahl)
Well, thank you so much for having me, Peter.It is great to be with you. 
Not at all.For the viewers, Tera and I, I met Tera back when I was over at CNP, actually, on the East Coast.We had a nice catch up over lunch, connected by a mutual friend, but Tera, former Chief of Staff for Congresswoman, Michelle Bachmann, and she put us in touch with Michelle.We've had Michelle on twice, talking about education and about the WHO, and Tera is former Deputy Chief of Staff, National Security Council.I'm going to stop there because Tera, your brief is large and your background is vast.Could I, before we get into the topic on immigration and wider, can I ask you just to take a moment and introduce yourself.
Yeah, absolutely. So I got into politics when I was in college. I started volunteering with Michelle Bachmann, who was a state senator at the time in Minnesota. She was my representative.I was at St. Cloud State University, and I heard her speak, and I just had tears rolled down my eyes. I didn't know if I was a Democrat. I didn't know if I was a Republican at that time, but I knew when I heard Michelle Bachmann speak that it resonated in my heart, and I wanted to support her candidacy for U.S. Congress.So I signed up as a volunteer and just started, you know, calling people, doing phone calls, doing door knocking, doing mailing.And then I eventually moved to D.C. when Michelle got elected and became, started very, just staff assistant, and worked my way up to senior advisor for Congressman Bachmann and really focusing on terrorism.She sat on the House Intel Committee, and so I did mostly the national security and the foreign policy for her.And that's really when I started getting involved with what was going on with the war on terrorism.I spent time over in Afghanistan.I spent time in Iraq with the American Red Cross serving our American troops during that period.Michelle was so amazing. She would let me leave for six months to go volunteer with the American Red Cross in Iraq, come back, work for her.Then I would go to Afghanistan and come back, and she would bring me back in again.So I just had opportunities to really, to see first-hand what was going on, on the ground over in the wars.In the war zones. And I also then, after leaving Michelle's office, I spent time during the Arab Spring under President Obama. And that's where I really, my eyes were very much open to just the false narratives that were coming out of the mainstream media. That's how I got involved with journalism. I never planned on writing. I happened to be overseas in Egypt during the counter revolution, when you had 30 million Egyptians go to the street and ask for new elections against the Muslim Brotherhood government, and so I happened to be on the ground during that time, and I saw how CNN was handling it, New York Times, Washington Post, and I said, this is not what, the reality on the ground is not what is being written by our mainstream media, and that was impacting policy. They were using the articles and the media coverage to be able to impact policy, and so that's how I got involved in journalism. I ended up going back to Northern Iraq during the in the war against ISIS.I spent time with the Libyans who were in exile in Egypt.I went to Syria, had gone to Nigeria. So I've just done a lot on the ground, which has really impacted how I have really pushed back then against really trying to write the truth, and countering that false narrative from the mainstream media.But then I went into the 2016 Trump campaign and National Security Council transition team.I went into the White House as General Kellogg's Deputy Chief of staff for the National Security Council.And eventually at the last year of the Trump administration, I was over at USAID as senior advisor in the Conflict Prevention and Stabilization Bureau and working on the women's security issues and the conflict prevention over at USAID.
Tell us about USAID. That's fascinating and something I know very little about as a Brit.Tell us about that. 
Well USAID I think has really started out as a good organization, a good concept, but I think what's really happened right now over at USAID, especially after working there, I've seen just a lot of the issues, a lot of the, way that we spend money is being misspent and it's not really in the national security or American interests. And so I could really go down USAID and foreign funding in general, and I think the big question to ask, and I think I would argue, is foreign funding constitutional?I think that's changed a lot. I think we're spending a lot of money on foreign funding that we should not be spending. And I think a big contrast is President Trump. President Trump has been very outspoken on that and very much using economic leverage for diplomacy, whereas I think right now we're giving a lot of money at USAID and it's going through USAID topeople and areas that it's not being well spent for the betterment of America and I think what really happens with USAID is it's almost like you create a problem and then we give USAID more money to solve that problem that we've already created. So I think you could really get into the funds and how it's spent and there needs to be a lot of oversight at USAID and I guess if I could give an opinion on the foreign funding, I think we really need to dismantle USAID in general and put it under another agency and another department because the money isn't being well spent.And you're not really seeing the return on investment. If you give money, even a taxpayer dollar, that's taxpayer dollars, what's your return on that investment? I don't think you're seeing that.Well, we'll maybe touch on that in a little bit, but if I want to maybe start on immigration, I'd put a piece together basically with a number of mutual friends behind the scenes helping that, and it was this time for Republicans to champion the rights of legal law-abiding immigrants and stop the green card jab mandates. Maybe I can ask you what is the, we've had Jaeson Jones and you were amazing on connecting us with Jaeson and he was great talking about the southern border and the issues there. But immigration, I guess, how has immigration become so politicised and what is the situation at the moment?I think it really has become politicised and it's sad because what's happening is that you're actually under this Biden administration, they're weaponizing the, immigration system. And when I say that, I mean, they're using, they're bringing in all the illegal immigrants, and I believe they're doing it for their purposes, for votes. And instead of supporting legal immigration, this isn't about immigration. This is about legal immigration versus illegal immigration. And you wrote an excellent piece, Peter, on this. And the debate needs to be, especially with the Republicans, has to be on the illegal immigration versus legal immigration.I think we're not against immigration. No one's against immigration, but you have to go through the ports of entry and you have to do it the legal way. And I think that's what you're seeing right now under this administration is they're allowing hundreds of thousands, millions of illegal immigrants into the United States right now, which is look at the fentanyl that's causing over 100,000 deaths every single year.You're looking at the crime rate that has gone up. I feel like every community in the United States, I think is seeing and feeling the impact of the illegal immigration that is coming under the Biden administration.You're feeling it in neighbourhoods that you would never suspect you would see it in.You're seeing more crime, more people that are on drugs.I see it in my neighbourhood. I see it everywhere I go, the impact of the Biden administration's illegal immigration policies.And I think it's impacting, Not only are we losing thousands of Americans because of fentanyl, but our hospitals are being overrun, which is going to increase our health insurance and our access to healthcare.Our education system is being overrun.We're having to pay as American taxpayers for these illegal immigrants who are coming in illegally.And I think that's the big debate. And like you said, Peter, in your article, just to touch on that is, what's going on too is the vaccination requirements with the illegal immigrants that are coming in, there's no requirement for them to be vaccinated with the COVID-19 vaccine.They don't have to be.So you're having hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants coming in that are not vaccinated, and the Biden administration seems to be completely okay with that.Not only are they illegally entering the United States, but they're not being required to get a COVID-19 vaccine.But now compare that to what is happening with the legal immigrants who are trying to go through the process legally, who want to contribute to the United States, who want to better our society.And go through the process, and get the green card, and say the pledge, and assimilate into our nation. Not integrate, assimilate into America. And they're being required to get the COVID vaccine. They have to choose between health, as you greatly said in your piece, Peter, they have to choose between health and freedom. And they shouldn't have to do that. And I think that people are not realizing that. I don't think the Republicans, I don't think Congress, I don't think the American people realize, they think that the Biden administration removed that COVID-19 vaccine requirement, but they didn't. They lifted it almost everywhere else, but these, illegal immigrants who are coming into the United States, and you could say, well, why would they do that? What benefit would that be for the Biden administration to not allow illegal immigrants to be required to have the vaccine, but they're mandating it on the legal immigrants who are coming here and going through the process that no one else is doing. They could just run through the southern border and get in like all the other illegal immigrants, but they're going through it the right way.And they're being required to do the vaccine. Well, what benefit is that?Well, I would say because those legal immigrants go through a process where they have to know the constitution, they have to know American history, they have to know the Pledge of Allegiance.They want to be here. They understand what freedom is. They understand what America means.And they're doing this and it takes years and years in a very long process to get through, and they go through it and they appreciate America, probably will vote Republican.So you have legal immigrants who probably will be voting Republican, and they're required to get the vaccine, where the illegal immigrants, probably majority will vote Democrat. And I think that is ultimately why you're seeing this administration completely do treasonous acts and policy. I would say completely treasonous not obeying the law not abiding by the Constitution with their immigration policies, so it's an issue. That's not being highlighted I'm very grateful that you wrote that article Peter and I think a lot of people are not aware of that and it's an issue That we really need to drive to the forefront especially heading into the 2024 elections I think Republicans really need to take on the issue and really say this is about illegal immigration and legal immigration.
Legal immigration and illegal immigration. That's what it is.And there's legal ways to come into the United States. You can go through the ports of entry and you can go through the process and get your green card.And that's the way that we need to be doing it. And we need to shut down any illegal ways to come into the United States.
It's weird looking at it as a European, as a Brit.And we have absolutely failed in our integration via immigration across Europe.And we've seen the riots in France, which show that we have segregation and not any integration.And America's kind of prided itself on that integration of people coming from all over, under one flag, under one constitution, under one belief system, and then coming together as Americans.And we have never really had that in Europe.We have allowed separate communities to exist side by side as ghettos.It just goes against the whole American dream, really.Yeah, absolutely it does. And I know, like, let's look at France right now, what has just recently happened in France, and look at their immigration policies and what it's done to that country.You know, like, we have to have legal means to come into the United States, but we also have to protect our borders. And I think Europe is a perfect example. I did, when I was doing my master's degree at Regent University, I spent time over at Oxford University, and one of our classes was really studying the European immigration models and looking down each country and the different countries and their different policies. And the concept that we were really looking into is, are the immigrants assimilating into European cultures or are they integrating? And that's the key question. Are they assimilating? Are they adapting to the culture, the constitution? Are they abiding by the constitution? Are they becoming American? That's what, when you used to to come to the United States, it was you become American, right?You become that culture. You have to abide by that constitution.And we're not seeing that.And it was really interesting back in 2007 when I spent that time at Oxford University studying the integration versus assimilation of immigrants in Europe and seeing now where that trajectory has gone and the problems that you have in England, the problems that France is facing.Look at all the immigrants that are coming over in Italy just recently as well.And a lot of them, I think, are not Italian-looking people, if you've seen the videos.They're chanting Allah Akbar when they're coming off those boats, and if you've seen the videos.So it's a threat that we need to do.It's for your own countries. They have to be able to have a system, an immigration system, where you are assimilating into that country. And that's why, like, when you have legal immigration in the United States, you have to study the constitution.You have to pledge allegiance to the United States of America.You understand the country that you're coming into and you're saying, I am going to live under this constitution, right?You're gonna contribute to American society. And it's a vast difference between the illegal immigrants who are crossing on the Southern border into the United States and in Europe as well.
So it's a huge issue for 2024. And I think you're seeing the candidates right now in the United States, like President Trump in 2016, that is what he ran on.He ran on the wall. He ran on building a wall.And at that time, a lot of people weren't even focusing on immigration.They were looking at the border as immigration and immigration only, and not through the lens of national security.And I would argue that we need to be looking at the immigration issue, not through legal and illegal immigration, but also it's a national security issue right now.We could have met up 15 years ago then, as you were around the corner in Oxford, but anyway, it's taken 15 more years.The issue of, because this should be a perfect issue for MAGA and Trump, but I separate that from the Republicans, because the Republicans are generally far away from MAGA as an institution, And we've had guests on before talking about Trump, I guess, redefining the Republican Party in his image of putting America first.But that America first policy, I guess is key. And it fits in perfectly with the immigration issue.And I think Trump last time talked a lot about the border, talked a lot about building the wall.But this issue of actually those who go through legally, because those who try and break into your country, those are the last people you want involved.Yet those who go through the process, who do things legally, who study what has to be done as a law-abiding citizen and go through those steps, those are exactly the people you want because you know they will fit into society, they will do what has to be done, they will care for their communities, they will actually care for their neighbours.Those are the people that actually kind of want to fit into that American dream.So this issue of legal immigrants getting a fair treatment is like a red meat issue really to MAGA and Trump. 
Yeah absolutely and I don't think you're seeing the Republicans take hold of that narrative as they should be.That's why your article is very good because you're laying it out.And to be honest, this was a new issue to me too.I just took it for granted that when the Biden administration lifted all of the requirements on the COVID-19 vaccination, I assumed that would include all legal immigrants.And this was something that reading your article, it was new to me to be able to, that I didn't know that that was, that they were withholding green cards for those people that have probably taken years and years to be able to finally get that green card. It takes a lot of work, it takes a lot of time, and the process is not easy to get that green card. And when they finally can get it, now they're saying, the Biden administration is now saying you either have to get that COVID-19 vaccination or you don't get your green card.So, that's a big issue. It's a big issue for Republicans to take hold of that and to say that we should have to make these legal immigrants who have done the right thing by going through the legal process, it makes them a very small number, percentage of those who are coming illegally into the United States, you know, when they had the chance to come illegally with everybody else, but they're doing it the right way and they should be honoured and they should be to be able to get that green card 100% without any requirement to get that COVID-19 vaccine, especially when we're seeing all of the negative effects from the COVID-19 vaccine.I've seen people in my family, my loved ones, my relatives, who after the COVID vaccine, we lost them.And so if that was a situation where I had a loved one that had to choose between getting a green card and getting the vaccine, you can't make that decision.There's no way that you could force me, myself, to get that COVID-19 vaccine, just because of the health risk of that.So that is something I don't think Republicans understand. I don't think people realize that that is going on.So your piece was really good, Peter, to really highlight it because I think a lot of times just bringing things into transparency, when you shine a light on issues, it does so much more because then people understand what is going on.And I think this is an issue they were trying to just hide under the rug because they made it look like that it was lifted and it's not. 
Well I pay credit to my ghost-writer but if I can ask how does that fit in with the with the Republicans, possibly RINO, you can touch on that, but having partial control of Capitol Hill. I'm assuming that immigration issues lie solidly with the White House.But please correct me. So what is the situation, how much noise and, well less noise, but how much movement can actual Republicans on Capitol Hill make on this issue of a fair treatment for legals as opposed to illegals? 
I think Congress, you know, we have the three different branches of government, but our legislative branch is the most powerful branch because it's closest to the people, right? And it holds the power of the purse. And our founding fathers created a legislative branch that way to be the most influential and powerful because it is closest to the people. And that's why it does hold the power of the purse. And when you have the power of the purse, you can leverage that, and you can do a lot of, you have a lot of influence. For a perfect example, even when I was over at USAID, when we wanted to be able to cut some of the programs that were not benefiting any kind of American interest in any way.You know, we had to go, we got calls from the Senate, we got calls from the Congress, even though it was under a Republican Trump administration, Congress still had leverage, the Senate still had leverage, so I think even with immigration, even though it would be, we have Biden in the White House, there's a lot that Congress can do, I think for one thing, bring transparency to the issue, hold a hearing on it, hold a congressional hearing it, look into it, Look at all the identify all the cases right now where green cards for legal immigrants are being held up because of the vaccine requirement. That's something that Congress can definitely do. You can, have a subcommittee look into it immediately starting today to start making phone calls and start tracking all of the legal immigrants who are coming into the United States who are being required to get vaccines if they're being held up from their green cards. That is something they can do right now. That's a debate that's going on right now with the defence authorization bill.Congress is saying that you can't do a lot of the things that the Pentagon wants to do, but they're holding it up. So they have a lot of leverage right now. There's a lot of that's what's going on with the Pentagon too, with the vaccine requirements where the Pentagon had fired thousands of servicemen because they didn't get the vaccine. And now they're at a point where where they're pushing back and they're filing lawsuits saying that they were illegally, unconstitutionally let go from the military and they want to serve again.So that debate right now with their vaccine requirements is going on right now.So this is a great, just another example of the Biden administration overstepping their boundaries and overstepping what they can constitutionally do, which you've seen them do over and over.Every single day they're breaking the constitution, every single day they're breaking the law, but hold them accountable and push back and say, no, you can't do that.You don't have, you cannot require the COVID-19 vaccine for the legal immigrants.I think that is something they definitely can do.You mentioned fentanyl. Let me, I want to ask you about the the drug issue, a little bit off topic, but I was, I've never seen drug abuse as visible until I went to the U.S. last year, and that was predominantly in L.A., where sadly I don't think I'd ever want to go again on the west coast.And just people out of it, wandering through the streets, zombie-like status, people lying all over the pavements, needles everywhere.I've literally never seen anything like that in all my travels on nearly every European country many times.Tell us about this fentanyl issue because it does seem to be completely out of control. And we've had, maybe in the last year, we've had UK media doing large reports, large stories, not only in newspapers but on TV, actually reporting the literally out of control situation of drug abuse in the US.Is that a fair assessment, kind of, what are your thoughts as an American to the current situation.Yeah, I think you're seeing the impact, and you're seeing it every single area.You're hearing it from people who have lost loved ones.It's becoming way too common where somebody's son, daughter, mother, father, brother, sister was killed by fentanyl, from fentanyl, and it's happening too often, and it's too close to home for most Americans.And you see it, even like I was saying. You're seeing the crime and the impact of the illegal immigration policies under the Biden administration in your local community.But a lot of that, like I've seen a change in my area where I live in Florida.I've seen a change just from last summer.We're seeing a lot of people on the streets that are on, you know, there are on drugs, they are hunched over and you can tell that and they are, you know, they're homeless, they're on drugs. You're seeing that and it's impacting people no matter where you live.
Doesn't matter if you live in the most elite neighbourhood your area will be impacted by the increase of fentanyl in the United States and it's the largest number of death, more people die from fentanyl than any other thing between 18, and 34 years old in the United States I think it's around 34, 40 years and younger but that's the largest the cause of death for Americans in the United States. So it has to get, we have to be able to address it and I think there's a lot more that can be done, Ultimately, I know you had Jaeson Jones on here. He's the number one expert on the cartels on the southern border.You can't get anyone better than Jaeson Jones. But he talks a lot about the cartels and that's where you have to really be able to go after the cartels. Designate them as a foreign terrorist organization and get to the core underlining cause of what is allowing all this fentanyl to come into the United States and go after it and basically you know cut the snake's head off and that's where you're gonna see, be able to really address the fentanyl issue, but it has to be addressed.You never know who's going to be impacted, your closest friends.I know people close to me who lost a loved one because of fentanyl, and it is a big issue.And I'm surprised to hear that you saw that the most when you came to the United States.And that says a lot.And why is that? Is that a mixture of, you've got open borders, completely open borders, even in so-called Republican states. You have, I guess, lax punishments, and you have a number of states legalising drugs higher and higher level. I guess you've got lack of church involvement, and both of us are strong Christians, and the church really should be taking a role in some of these issues which damage society and they're not. Or is it just simply politicians engaged in other things, busy with more pressing issues for them than this? How has it slipped in to American society?Well, I think, number one, open borders. I mean, our borders are completely open. We have no operational control at the borders. It's basically run by the cartels. Operational control is by the cartels. So we definitely have to get control of our borders. That is number one.But number two, I'm glad you hit on, Peter, the role of the church, especially in American society, right? We have basically self-rule government, where we want a limited government that stays within their jurisdictions. And I'm always, as the American way, government's not going to solve your problems. Government needs to get out of the way. Government needs to be able to create kind of like a sidewalk. They need to be able to create space so that people can live freely and just protect that space. And so that's where like the role of the church comes in.You can never change. Government can't change people's hearts. Government is not going to be the solution for America. God is going to be the solution for America because only God can change the hearts of the American people. And that's what the founders believed.And that's why they created our system of government that way, is that the government is meant to protect the church, right? So that we can have that freedom of religion, and government will protect our freedom of worship. Wherever religion we choose, government is to protect that. That is a right that Americans have in the United States, and that government cannot interfere in that. And so that's where the role of the church does need to step in. Government can't fix it. Yes, we do need to secure our borders, absolutely. But on the other hand, exactly what you said, the church needs to step in, absolutely needs to step in, and we need to be able to have, if you look at our statistics for those that go to church and believe in God, it's sad, and we're seeing a decline in the United States of that.But I also believe that we're on the greatest verge of a revival as well.I really do think that as well, and that's what ultimately is going to solve the fentanyl problem.We can only do what we can do policy-wise, but ultimately God has to change our hearts too.Government is meant to create the situation so that we have the ability to be able to make those changes, the ability to be able to do what we can do and not interfere in that. So we do definitely need to have the Church step up into helping with programs for fentanyl and just getting to know God, getting to know the Lord, having a personal relationship with Him that's gonna transform your heart. 
100% nothing beats a personal relationship with Jesus.That changes a lot. 
No, absolutely. 
Tera, can I just ask you personally, you've had, we've touched on, immigration, we've touched on the drugs issue and you, I guess, as someone who has been in Congress, served with a Congressman, your time in the White House, then you've also had in media with, certainly in the Breitbart days and more recently with Real America Voice. So you've got a perspective from the policy side but also from the media side. How do you with those two hats, how do you look at what's happening and what are the issues which you, as an American personally are most concerned about.
I think that's really key points because those are the two key, It's policy and the media drives policy, And I really saw that as I mentioned earlier in the show Peter, the reason I even got into journalism was because I was on the ground in Egypt, during the counter revolution in 2013 when you had 30 million Egyptians go to the streets.to remove the Muslim Brotherhood from government and CNN covered the Muslim Brotherhood, the terrorists who were tied to Al-Qaeda and other terrorist organizations who were committing violence on the street.It was very similar to what happened with BLM here in the United States back in 2020 when you had CNN and you had mainstream media standing in front of burning buildings saying, You know, here's a BLM, you know, protest, but it's mostly peaceful when you had the building burning behind you.Well, that's what I saw when I was on the ground over in the Middle East during the Arab Spring.The mainstream media was completely lying and driving a false narrative.And that false narrative was impacting our policy.That's what the Pentagon watched. That's what members of Congress watched.That's what impacted the Obama administration. Then when they came out and they were going to cut aid to Egypt for removing a terrorist organization who was in power, who was terrorizing and destroying Egypt.And so I saw the impact that media has on our policy. So when I was coming from a policy field heading, you know, I had worked in Congress, I had been on the presidential campaign with Michelle Bachmann during the 2012 presidential election, and coming from that field I saw how much media matters. When you give a false narrative, that is what they use to make their policy. And another perfect example that I went through that same way where they use the media to impact their policy was the Mueller investigation. I worked in the White House. I came in the first day of day one. I worked at the National Security Council. And I remember watching, I was in my office and I remember watching CNN and they said they were launching the special counsel, the Mueller investigation, the special counsel on President Trump and his ties to Russia.And I remember thinking, you know, that Russia, like, you know, obviously that's not gonna have anything to do with me. There's no impact there." Well, I was wrong because the Mueller investigation actually, it really impacted anyone who served on the campaign, anyone who went into the transition team. And when we look back at that, how did the Mueller investigation start? The Mueller investigation started because they were leaking false narratives, false articles in the media.And then what happened? Well, the FBI was the one leaking those articles and then they launched an investigation using those articles. So what's happened today in our culture and Europe and England, all over CNN International, all mainstream media, and you have it just as bad as we have it.And thank you for doing what you do because you're a voice of truth against the mainstream media who's just projecting a false narrative, but that false narrative is actually a political arm of the Democratic Party.That's what's happening. The media has turned into the political arm of the Democratic Party.So they create a narrative, or they follow with a narrative.And so I really was able to see the impact that the mainstream media has on our policy.
When I went overseas during the Arab Spring under the Obama administration, I was on the ground in Egypt when you had 30 million Egyptians come out to the streets to call for early elections against the Muslim Brotherhood regime and the Morsi regime, who were tied to Al-Qaeda, who were committing terrorist acts, who were persecuting Christians, who were making women wear the hijab and cut their hair and the Egyptians said we've had enough and well what I saw was CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, all reported completely on the side of the Muslim Brotherhood and they ignored the 30 million Egyptians who were in a line, who stood with American values, like they wanted to have freedom, they wanted to remove a terrorist organizations who we were still at war with, America was still at war with in Afghanistan and Iraq, we were still losing American troops to Al Qaeda-linked terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan, and yet the media was portraying it that it was a military coup, that was not the truth, and that impacted our policy, where then the Biden administration wanted to cut aid to Egypt.That was what was happening, and I saw it on the ground, and I thought that's when I started writing. That's when I started speaking out because I saw the impact that the media has and nobody else was on the ground. No journalists were there. I was the only journalist basically pushing back that was on the ground with real footage with the truth to say this isn't what's happening, this isn't the truth and that's going to impact our policy. And that's what really began my journey where I went from all these different Arab Spring countries to be able to really get on the ground and to be able to really see first-hand what was happening because I saw how important it was because I came from the policy field and I saw that they were watching CNN at the Pentagon, they were watching Al Jazeera at the Pentagon, and that was impacting their policy. And so what I did then after that, because I saw how much it matters for people to see first-hand and get the truth, we had delegations. We sponsored delegation after delegation after delegation that included members of the mainstream media, that included former generals, people that had a voice that they could see for themselves.You see it yourself, and then you go back and you say what you saw.But don't listen to The New York Times, don't listen to The Washington Post.You see it first-hand, because this is going to impact America's national security for, a very long time. And that was prior to the ISIS taking over in the ISIS caliphate that was prior to that the Islamic caliphate that happened in Iraq and Syria. So just imagine if what had happened, if people didn't push back from the Arab Spring. You would have had Egypt fall to the Islamist. You would have had Libya fall. You would have had Syria fall. Tunisia would have fallen So just think of how different that policy would have been had the mainstream media had their way, had the Obama administration had their way. But the point is, is that I've seen it first-hand, the impact, and when I worked for President Trump on the Trump campaign, then following that, my time on the ground with the Arab Spring, I saw the same actors coming against President Trump, and that was before fake news was fake news. So I was calling out fake news before any, before other people were labelling it fake news, and I saw how the New York Times would write about Trump.And I saw how Washington Post would write about Trump and CNN, and that was all new. Like at that time, people didn't quite realize how the media had really turned in to a political arm of the Democratic Party, right? It was, we didn't really tie that together, that it was so strong, because that really happened, I think, under the Obama administration, is when you just had this complete turnover to the Democratic Party. They just used the Democratic Party's talking points. You know, there's really no freedom or liberty within the mainstream media anymore. They basically just go off their political talking points. I think the DNC might just email them their talking points of the day and that's what they use because they all have the same points on every single show. And so that's where I saw like when when the same people were coming after Trump I thought yes he's the right guy, he's the right candidate, and this is the person that I want to support. And then we saw just how fake news completely into the Trump administration, I dealt with it over and over again, the fake news and just how they are, they're so, they're so manipulating the American public.But thank you for doing what you do because you are a voice of truth.And I'm sure that's a similar story with the need for having real, true media. It matters.
Oh, it does, and we lack it. The US, I think over there, stateside, you've got much more established alternative media sources. We are still playing catch-up massively.But just to finish off, can I just ask you again on that international side, on that. You've got a grasp of geopolitics of the international side, and we may in the UK mock the Americans for never venturing beyond the borders of the US, not having passports, all of that. And yet, being the world's policeman, although we may mock it, I think in Europe, Europe relies on America being a strong voice of reason because the EU don't have the ability, don't have the capability, don't have the money, don't have the organizational ability, everything. They just don't have it. So the EU, Europe as a whole and the UK look to America for buying that stability and God forbid we have China take that role which looks like what is going to happen and watching the Afghanistan debacle, you kind of shake your head. Where does it leave the U.S. at the moment for being that voice of reason, that moral framework, that world's policeman in effect throughout the world?
Well I think Afghanistan is a perfect example right now. I spent time in Afghanistan, I spent time out with the Marines in Helmand province. I've seen, I've have been at the bedside of our troops that have come back into the hospitals.So I've been there, I've seen it. And to see what happened in Afghanistan under this administration is completely treasonous.There was no reason that we needed to abruptly depart Afghanistan the way that we did.No, we should have kept Bagram. I think we basically gave Bagram over an airfield right to China.And it was a very strategic location, Bagram. It's by China.By Iran, it's by Afghanistan. It was a very strategic location for us to have that airfield.And that is something I know that under a Trump administration, that's the difference that you see between these administrations. So the Biden administration completely, that was, it was it was treasonous in my opinion to leave it after all the investment that the United States has done over 20 years and we basically handed it over to China, Russia and Iran. That's where we're seeing it and I think what's happening though is you really have a continuation of the Obama presidency right now in the Biden presidency. So they're continuing and this is according to Obama's own words when President Biden took office in a New York Times article, President Obama said that 90% of the people working for Biden are from his staff, are from his administration, and they're just continuing the policies from the Obama administration.And what you saw under the Obama administration was really a policy of leading from behind.We were showing weakness. We were emboldening our enemies and alienating our allies.And it was like that was the foreign policy that we saw under the Obama administration.And it's the same policies that are being under the Biden administration.And it's not a good time for America when we look at, I mean, it's a hopeful time because I think we're looking at 2024, we have the Republicans in Congress.I think we're seeing, there's a lot of hope. I think we have more religious freedom than we've ever had with some of these Supreme Court cases.Like we have a lot of amazing things happening in our country, but we have a lot of dangerous things as well, especially that's coming in from our southern border.And when you have a weak administration and you're portraying a sense of weakness, look at what happened when Russia invaded Ukraine.That happened immediately when the Biden administration took power.That never would have happened if the Biden administration didn't pull out of Afghanistan and portray a sense of weakness. That's what happened.
They showed weakness. Russia took advantage of it and went into Ukraine.And now what are we looking at? We're probably looking at China invading Taiwan.And the next threat that we're going to look at, I believe, is China going to invade Taiwan.And that's going to critically impact the United States at home, it's gonna impact Europe, it's gonna impact the world.But I think that's the threat that we're facing right now, and we're looking at the threat coming in from the southern border.We've seen a 900% increase in Chinese nationals coming through the southern border.That's almost 10,000 Chinese nationals, and a majority of those, out of those almost 10,000, 8,200 of them are Chinese military-aged men.Coming through our southern border just in the last fiscal year.So that's about the last seven months where we used to see very low numbers.We used to be like around, I think, believe years prior, 100, 200, and now we're seeing almost 10,000 in this fiscal year already.And so the threat from China at our southern border is as a big... Cuba, let's look at Cuba, they're building a spy base right now in Cuba, 80 miles away from Florida, where I live right now.So we're seeing this emboldening China right now, and I just don't think that if you don't have a strong defence like Ronald Reagan, right, peace through strength, build a strong military so that you deter your adversaries.And that's not what we're doing, that's not what we're prioritizing.And so when I think when we look at Ukraine right now, you really have China wanting us to be involved in Ukraine because they're going through our supplies or using our resources so that when they can take our eye off the ball of them and focus on Ukraine, and then they'll have an opportunity to invade Taiwan.But it's all because the administration is portraying this sense of weakness.And you can't do that. America is the number one strongest nation in the world, and we cannot portray weakness because when we do, it impacts everybody.And that's where I think you're seeing these other allies, especially our Arab allies, are starting to look under the Obama administration, when we really abandoned them, we abandoned them and they're looking at China and they're looking at Russia.And so we're pushing our allies towards our enemies and that policy is just a trajectory in the wrong direction.And so I'm just really hoping for 2024 and really hoping that we have a new administration to steer us in the right direction.100% and I got my Trump hat behind me so I've nailed my colours to the mast.Not that it matters, I'm not an American, so I don't have a right to vote.Tera, it's been wonderful having you on. I really appreciate your insights on all of these issues.And I've enjoyed watching you on Frank Gaffney, on War Room with Steve Bannon.Are you going to be on our screens more often then?
Well, let's see, I'm not sure. 
I hope so. Tera, thank you so much for being with us today.
Thank you, Peter. God bless you.
 

The Week According To . . . Karli Bonne’

Saturday Night Live and this episode we head back across the pond to welcome back, by public demand, the totally awesome Karli Bonne'.Karli runs arguably the No 1 MAGA and current affairs social media account on the web, so this is a lady with her finger firmly on the pulse of what's happening now.So who better than 'The Cackling Conservative' to talk through what has piqued our interest in the news, in articles and from her social media posts over the past seven days?So buckle up 'Midnight Riders' as Karli is sure to have the snowflakes scurrying to their safe spaces.Topics in the cross-hairs this episode...- Stop the green card jab mandates: It’s time for Republicans to champion the rights of legal law-abiding immigrants.- Zelensky mocks request for gratitude towards Western taxpayers.- Leftist Judge rules that citizens are not allowed to examine voting machine tabulators without a court order, – opening the door for lawsuits against Pro-Trump researchers.- MAGA 2024: Trump holds 37 point lead for the Republican nomination. - 'I'm not a number 2 guy': Ron DeSantis says he won't be Donald Trump's running mate if he doesn't win GOP nomination.- The power of Tucker Carlson.- Pence: America is not his concern.- US military runs low on ammunition and plans on sending cluster bombs to Ukraine.... which are banned in 120 countries.- ‘Sound of Freedom’ movie flying high to rave reviews.
Karli Bonne' is a retired model, dancer and a Rockstar wanna be.Now she is a full blown MAGA maniac video clipper with three phones, continuously laughing at the establishment because it’s like holy water on a demon, and these demons must be eradicated.
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Originally broadcast live 15.7.23
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Kim Isherwood - Sex Ed at Three: Education or Indoctrination?

Show notes and Transcript
Kim Isherwood heads up the most important campaign group in Wales.
Public Child Protection Wales seeks to protect children from state sexualisation and wake parents up to the evils being forced on their children.  Kim joins us to discuss what first alerted her to how the education system is been used to groom our children. She explains how the Welsh politicians and media have simply gone along with this evil with many of them actively promoting it. Without PCP Wales many parents would be none the wiser to what teachers are doing to their children. What can the public and parents do to get involved in this battle to save our children? Join us to be inspired and hear Kim explain how you can become part of the fightback, and please share with family and friends.
Kimberley Isherwood is first and foremost a mother and she is the Chair of Public Child Protection Wales (PCP Wales), a parent-led, not for profit organisation concerned at the way national and local Governments have failed children in safeguarding and education.Kim holds a degree in Criminology and Social Policy and a masters degree in Criminology and is a fully accredited Relationship & Sexuality Education teacher trainer doing a post grad in Applied Criminal Justice and Criminology.She is not afraid of hard work and is always ready to ask the questions others will not and last year PCP Wales took the Welsh Government to court over proposals to bring in comprehensive sexuality education for children as young as three.
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Interview recorded 10.7.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Kim Isherwood.I have followed Kim for about nine months now, and thrilled to have her on.She heads up an organisation called Public Child Protection Wales, and this is about safeguarding, protecting our children from the sexualisation onslaught that is coming all across the world.And she discusses why she's got involved in this, why she started the organisation, she discusses some of the teaching materials that are now being used to sexually abuse our children. And how parents, or if you're not a parent, you maybe have someone in your family, a child in your extended family, and you want to preserve their childhood life.You want to hold off this because there is an age-appropriate time for all of this. And Kim talks about that clash between parental rights and governmental rights. 
Kim Isherwood, it is wonderful to have you with us. Thanks for your time today.(Kim Isherwood)
No, thank you for your time, Peter. I really appreciate this.
Not at all. I've wanted you on for the last probably six or eight months. I've seen you at different things and what you cover is absolutely essential. As a parent, I understand that, you're a parent, but it's not just for parents, but those who have friends, nephews, nieces, whatever, because it affects everyone, I think, what we're going to discuss. But publicchildprotectionwales.org is where you can find Kim's excellent organisation. She's also on Twitter, @KimberlyTish. All those will be in the description, so make sure and follow what Kim is doing.But maybe before we get into PCP Wales, why it's needed, what you're doing, the education system, why it's not just Wales but all over the UK and actually worldwide what we're facing, could you take just a few minutes and introduce yourself to our viewers and listeners.
Well yeah as you said my name is Kim Isherwood and I always described myself as a child from the streets. I was homeless on and off from the age of 14 to 21 and I spent a bit of time in a youth offenders institute and that's where I discovered that institutional child sex abuse.Everybody in there had been abused you know so that's what I developed a passion for that obviously you know very close to my heart you're living with these girls for a long time and you you get to see a lot of what they've been through.Moving on, then I became a mother. My eldest son has autism and ADHD, so I then furthered my education in the realms of social policy.I then went on to do a few, I've done three university courses, a certificate in higher education for vulnerable adults, social policy and criminology, and then most recently a master's in criminology.So I've kept, obviously, the two fields separate. One was my passion and one was a passion as a mother.And then in January, 2020, I discovered an article online regarding sex education in three-year-olds.And these two worlds just collided, Peter. I was absolutely amazed at how these two fields could cross in such a way.I tried my best to look a bit further. And obviously then I discovered it was far more sinister, than what anybody's given it credit for, you know?So that's when I started the campaign against the sex education, it was just a Facebook group.And then later on, it was about six months later, we discovered further failings within our system.And that's when we established Public Child Protection Wales.Because I've spent the last 15 years supporting families of children with additional needs, forced adoptions, removals, and things like that.With this campaign, with the sex education and the casework that I do on a one-to-one basis with families, we felt we had no option other than to set up this organisation to try and address these issues and obviously our immediate concern right now is the sex education but we do have plans to go on and address all the safeguarding policies, rewrite the training in Wales and basically you try and make this the safest place in the world for raising and educating children which is not rocket science.I see the passion and enthusiasm, massive concern, it comes across, it's plain for all to see, you know the topic and you have a deep concern of what is happening.You read about it just in the media, you became aware, it's more and more public what's happening, our newspapers report it, just like entertainment news now, really. How did it hit you? And it doesn't hit so many other people, because I have the conversation with parents and they nod, but it doesn't seem to really hit them or get them. 
Well, I'm the kind of person that I need to prove things wrong. So I first discovered the sex education in 2013, and it was an article online, and it was talking about masturbation from age four in Spanish schools introduced to the World Health Organization. People were saying it was Jewish propaganda because it came from a website called Israel 360 and obviously I went looking. I found the document, this article was not propaganda and I was naïve, very very naïve, you know you're looking at the World Health Organization how on earth are they saying we are sexual from birth and we should be masturbating from birth, you know? So one thing led to another and it wasn't long before we found the source of this data, and I use that term loosely, you know? And so for me, when I discovered it in the Welsh documents then, you know, like seven years later, it was an absolute no-brainer.Again, naïve, I believe this wouldn't hit the British Isles, you know, and it literally took my heart sunk. I read a headline saying the Welsh government have removed your parental opt-out for sex education from age three. Now I want to categorically state that with my experience with institutional abuse, had I not known the origins of these frameworks, I probably would have thought, hmm, age three, but then I would have thought to myself, do you know what, it's needed to keep these children safe. That's what I would have thought, that's probably what I would have, to know what I mean, come to the conclusion about. But knowing the origin of this documentation, it reads like models of offending, you know, so the process people go to offend, it's like a step-by-step instruction, so I would say it's a manual of offending. And that was something I just could not let go of, you know, I cannot let go of that. It's one thing when it's across the pond and you can pass it off as crazy Yanks going through a faze or whatever, but it's something quite different than when it's actually in your living room, you know.So we could not let it go and we will never let it go, you know, for that reason.
I've been curious, kind of touching the political side, and then we'll get on to the website itself and what you have, because I, as someone maybe on the right, kind of in UKIP and all that, I've been happy to blame Labour, point the finger at Labour, but living in, someone from Northern Ireland living in London. England is just as bad when you have a pretend Conservative Party. We have it just as bad here. Northern Ireland's maybe the only part of the Union that has maybe held off a little bit more because it is more traditional in its viewpoint of many things. Have you looked at it politically and kind of wondered how it's not just one side of the political spectrum, but it seems to be right across. Everyone seems to have fallen for this.Yeah, well, what it was in, there's a document on our website, it was published by, Planned Parenthood Federation, and it's an overview of 25 countries. So in there on page 174, it discusses England, but in the corner of the page, it tells you that the studies in England apply to the whole of the UK.If you read page 8 it actually tells you and it states five select committees so we've assumed that this includes Southern Ireland. It states that all five select committees of the UK have adopted this sex education with the view for legislative changes and this took place in March 2017. So we're all in the same storm we're just in different boats so that would mean that it was the Labour government in Wales, it was a Conservative government for England, it was the SNP for Scotland, and I'm unaware who it would have been for Northern Ireland, I'm sorry.But yeah, so this is not a political issue, it seems to be, it's orders from above, you know, this is orders from above, this is the World Health Organisation, and the United Nations are pulling the strings on this. So again, I had no idea that all four UK countries were involved in this until after we'd started the campaign and my colleague had found the documentation.So even when we saw some of this less in common in England in 2018, I did think to myself, they need to get that sorted out, you know, because we knew exactly where this self-stimulation for four-year-olds had come from and again that was the United Nations. So yeah we're all in the same predicament here. A concerning thing is we've been legislated against in Wales harshly.Without having this lesson content as rough as they've had it in England and Scotland.But this will be applied to the whole of the UK. They've adopted the same thing.And the term I keep using is, if they have signed a contract for a BMW, they are not going to be driving a Focus into the classroom. It's that BMW that's coming. So this is something the whole of the UK need to be aware of now. We did prove this as well as fact in the judicial review.Our case should be out there now for public viewing. There are two claimants who referenced this global sex education, that's myself and one of the claimants that we had to anonymise. Well, this was proven as fact. These documents have now reached mainstream media with the Conservative politicians in Wales claiming they are outraged. Well, every Conservative politician in Wales had this evidence. They were asked to support us when we issued the letter before action to the Labour government and they have not supported us, but they will make statements on our behalf.So this is where we're at. This is not a party solution, it is a people solution.
Yeah, the pretend outrage from so-called conservatives. Let me bring up the website. This is the front page of the website. Tell us about starting PCP Wales, kind of the initial starting, and how you have, I guess, developed it, rolled it out, got people involved.Well, to tell you the truth, we had to learn everything. We had to learn how to build the website by ourselves. We got a nice team together, we wrote the constitution, opened the bank account and we have been, we've been pretty much building a brand you know we if you look at our demonstrations now everybody's there kitted out in their uniform and eventually Public Child Protection Wales sex education will be a tiny part of that because we've just, we're not happy with the children's commissioner, we're not happy with the safeguarding procedures here in Wales and having a degree in social policy being devolved for just 20 years, we don't feel that is good enough, we feel that we do have the skills to make this country far safer and we are not supported by the NSPCC, we are not supported by the Children's Commissioner, we are not supported by Barnardo's, therefore we do not think they should be funded in the way they are, they are irrelevant to us on the ground, so we are building our own organisation simply because they are not good enough, they are not filling the criteria, they are not keeping our children safe, therefore we've built Public Child Protection Wales with the view to dissolve the rest of the people really.Tell us your mission statement about promoting a high standard of safeguarding to the children of Wales. I think people are quite shocked that that is not in place already.A lot of the things that you talk about, people think well this is common sense. I'm sure they're already in place and then when you begin to look you find out actually there are next to no safeguarding procedures to actually protect children from sexualization. 
Well this is another thing what we have done is, everybody's groomed by the system you believe schools are places of safeguarding, so the first thing we did was we put our team through level two safeguarding exactly the same as the teachers, so people could understand what was going on. I obviously sit in on this training, I explain the differences and I try to get people to really think.So people assume schools are places of safeguarding, they assume these people are vetted.Well the DBS only detects convictions, so unless you've been convicted of a sexual assault, that's not going to be flagged up anyway. A PNC check now that would be more in depth, because that flags up reports you know concerns without the convictions and when you actually look, at the safeguarding procedures in general all of the training, I am yet to find a single piece of training that educates school staff on what happens within their institution. Now we get reports published by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sex Abuse on the rates of sex abuse in schools and they claim, and I'm quoting the document here, that sex abuse in schools is an open secret.With over 40% of children who are being abused, they're aware of it happening to other children.So a major issue here is the fact that they are not trained in institutional child sex abuse.Now my argument here is simple. To protect your car from a car thief, you think like a car thief.To protect your house from a burglar, you think like a burglar. So to protect a child from a predator, you need to understand the mind and behaviour of predators, yet that training is completely absent. When you speak to a teacher about institutional child sex abuse, they will say what is that? Well you work in that environment? It is littered with abuses, why do you not know?So what we have, we have a system that develops policy based on statistics. Now they will use stats from the Office of National Statistics and the Crime Survey England and Wales.There you will find records of familial abuse, that's abuse at home and that's only because it's been reported. Now we built policy on these statistics because of that's what we've collected, yet institutional child sex abuse goes on for longer periods of time, there is usually multiple victims and it gets, and it doesn't get reported you know and you can look at another report by by the IICSA that claims schools are reluctant to report abuse.So we're not collecting these statistics.We will see academic reports years later about what happened years ago.But those stats are never collected, and they are never used for the development of policy.Well, I am the person who looks for the hidden statistics.So I do FOIs in police stations. I look at the Education Workforce Council fitness of practice panels.And when we are getting in excess of 200 sexual assaults and rapes in one Police Force. For three academic years and schools are reluctant to to report this abuse then we really do have issues you know and we also um, so the so the safeguarding procedure in school is simple, the level two safe guarders report concerns to the safeguard lead who is level three, well I'm safeguard lead, all my job is to decide whether it goes to the police, social services or the safeguarding board. That's all my job is. Now if you look at another report published it was jointly commissioned by the Welsh Government, Barnardo's and the serious sexual assaults.I can't remember the name of it now, but it's the serious sexual assaults department it is and I actually know the lady who wrote this report it was Dr Sue Roberts. Now she took cases from social services. So, we've got teachers believing this stuff is going to social services and it's being dealt with. Well, the social workers are not trained in child sex abuse at all.No social services are trained in child sex abuse in fine detail. They do their third-party training and that's it. Not only does it mention that, it states the social workers do not know what to do with the disclosure of abuse. They're not allowed to ask questions around the disclosure of abuse and they very often have to go to their supervisors or line managers. So what we're dealing with here is a report and pass system. If it is reported and passed it goes to social services and then it kind of flops anyway. So these are issues that we need to address and I've met loads of social workers who are really into child sex abuse but they've had to go and do a master's in criminology just to specialise in that field you know so we've got all these lines ofthese disciplines and these academic disciplines but they're not crossing, they're not overlapping. So we're very much within a system that has groomed us into believing schools are places of safeguarding when we're actually living in a system that does not address institutional child sex abuse and I suspect that is probably the reason why the media and politicians will not speak to us because every time they do, we mention institutional child sex abuse and that is never aired. In actual fact, it was one time on Jeremy Vine, he said we'll forget about that for now. So this is the kind of thing we're dealing with. Nobody wants to look at what's happening within our school system anyway. They believe the safeguards. They believe correct terminology for your genitalia safeguards as well. And again, that's a myth that we are setting out to prove is false.
One other thing you talk about in your mission statement is ensuring parental care involvement remains at the heart of all developments. And there's one side is, I guess, parents have trusted their children to the education system.I think what you're doing is helping wake parents up to that is not a trustworthy institution any longer.But then they think well don't worry as a parent I can get involved. I've seen story upon story that and personally I've seen, that's not the case. The school is not, schools are not necessarily welcoming parental involvement. Is that a fair assessment? 
That is absolutely a fair assessment and I'll bring your attention to a recent court case, the Claire Page case. So Claire Page wanted know her daughter was being taught in school via a third-party sex education organisation.They would not give her the resources. She found some very questionable stuff on the website, very graphic.Their personal lives as well you know are questionable and the court has actually decided it's not in the public interest to share these resources with parents. Now time and time again we keep coming up against this thing about copyright, the schools can't show us because of copyright and when you look at these third party organizations very often their only qualification is their sexuality, there is no safeguarding training even though we complain safeguarding trainers are not up to scratch. It's not there anyway. You know, they have no qualifications in child development, child psychology. There is nothing there. There's no professionalism there. But what we're actually dealing with here are complex specialist fields, you know, and they just being dished out by, it's where they're having a party during these people have got together for a party, cook this stuff up and they just throwing it out. Like it's the be-all and end-all. Well yeah, it's the be-all and end-all of childhood in a sense.
Because, well probably 25% of our viewers are US and then probably about 65 UK. And we, Kim, you, we both watched some of the videos of school board meetings in the US, with the parents reading out some of the awful materials. And it seemed to be they have a place to air it. We, in the UK, seem to be quite different. We don't seem to have that same public forum to air it and then the school can pick parents off one by one.
Yeah, well I've actually attended meetings and I've been kicked off the meetings because the government is sending out these people to front these organisations and tell parents things aren't, you know. So these organisations are supposed to be there to support the schools but then they're saying in the same sentence then that the teachers have the final say.Well how can the teachers have a final say over something you don't understand? They've brought you in for that so who is actually supporting who here and also when you ask them for the resources to back their statements, so correct terminology safeguards where's the research to support that? simply non-existent children can differentiate between good touch bad touch, where's the research to support that? it's practically it's non-existent you know, so these things these phrases are they throwing out there the non-existent anyway you know so if If they could back these things up, that would be something, you know, but they can't.Nobody will come in on a proper debate.No one will give us air time simply because what we are speaking is the truth and is common sense.And if it gets out what we are saying, then that's going to change the whole mindset of parents anyway, you know, because they are being told this stuff safeguards.Where is some of the push for it? I mean, I've been in my kids' schools, and you see the whole pride wall during Pride Month, and I don't think that should have any say.That's completely separate from LGBT lifestyles. When you're looking at schools, sexualisation in schools, that should have no part.Both cases, in a Church of England school, where I think sometimes in the UK we trust. And I'm saying that as a Christian, that we trust the Church of England.They will bring biblical, correct teaching. That's not the case. Where's the push coming from? Is it coming from those well-funded LGBT organizations like Stonewall? Is it fear of being called out? Where's it coming from? 
Yeah, so it is coming from these well-funded lobbyists.They are doing the work of the people from the top, you know, and that's it. Empty vessels make the loudest noise. They are getting all the airtime. You've got to have a victim and a demon for this kind of thing to work, so they will victimise people and then they'll demonise the common sense people then, you know. But this is coming from the third party lobbyists.They are open about it. You've got the work of Dr Ellie Barnes, who openly says she wants to smash heteronormativity. She references the work of Dr Alfred Kinsey and that work as tables of sexual abuse of children as young as two. So yeah we've got some questionable academics and like I said they are all linked to these lobbyist groups, they're all well funded and yeah that's that's where it's coming from basically. They have a say over everything, now a lot of people will say well you know but we we talk about straight relationships all the time we need to have this in school. Well actually no we don't because when I was in school you would only know your teacher's married if they had a ring or their name was Mrs. You know, if I said, Miss, have you got a boyfriend? I would be told to mind my own business. So that's a big point people are missing here.Where's the professionalism?What about parents when they speak out? I know a case in school I know well, and a teacher was finishing up and decided to explain to the children of seven-year-olds that she was a lesbian, getting married to a lesbian lover.And this is what lesbian was all about. And it started to describe lesbian sexual relationships to seven-year-olds.Obviously, no place in a school. When parents complained, they were threatened with being reported to social services.Is that... Tell us about that, because I think parents sometimes are a bit reticent, but I think it's probably you have to be wise and maybe how you approach engaging with a school.
Yeah, well this is something that is happening. Parents are being reported to social services because what people are not aware of is our children now have sexual and reproductive rights.So the first step of this education is if you interfere you're breaching your child's right to an education. The step further from that then is you're breaching your child's sexual and reproductive rights. So we are on a slippery slope here, you know, parents don't have a single say at all, but I have always had a great relationship with my son's school only because it was a three-way partnership, you know, school, child and the parent.Where are we going with this? You know, we know exactly where we're going with this.It's damage limitation now, isn't it?
Oh, yeah. What has been the response to you from organisations and media as you've tried to highlight the abuse that's happening in schools?
Well, the media are not reporting anything. I film every single altercation with the media anyway, and I also send them the evidence afterwards to show that we are, you know, speaking the truth.But the media won't publish any of that.You know, they have been publishing facts of our case. So the World Health Organization documentation, UNESCO documentation, but they don't want, they don't wanna show you guys exactly what's going on, you see?So now this is gonna be tomorrow's chip wrapper more than anything.But what I keep saying to the media is this, you don't like us because when you point your camera into our crowd, you don't know if it's a Christian or a lesbian. So out here in Wales, we have united every single minority group, every single group, religious, non-religious, sexualities, we have united them all. But that goes against everything they promote. That goes against every narrative that they push out there. They don't want the UK to know there is a group of common sense people in Wales fighting for the safety of their children. They want people to think we are bigots. They want people to think we are homophobic. Well, half of our panel is part of the LGBT community anyway. So again, you know, this is why they won't report on us because they can't demonize us. They have given a statement saying that this is misinformation and they are yet to point out what that misinformation is because we've proven it in court as fact.
On the website, again, people can get all the resources.Please do make use of it. And if you go to the here, the sex ed part, you can click resources, and there is a wide range of resources available there, telling you what is happening.And then it goes into some of the WHO stuff. Now, I guess it's strange, people don't think the WHO, What are they doing involved?When you look into this, you find organizations involved, which kind of surprises why they're getting.And they go through right from the beginning of zero to four, talking about masturbation, or at that age, children knowing what's best for them.I mean, tell us about how the kind of organizations, how they are pushing this agenda.Well, there's three theories, there's three underlying theories here. So one is we are sexual from birth. The other is the gender ideology, which means, well, they say gender is a social construct. Then the third is the queer theory, and that's being played as your hip and cool if you're queer. Well, actually, the main aim of queer theory is to queer all heteronormativity and to prove that there's not a binary between gender, sexuality, and the most concerning of all, there's no binary between adulthood and childhood. They don't believe in childhood, they believe childhood in a sense is a myth, and you know when you look into their work they say things like child plus adult equals okay, this is what we are dealing with here, these academic disciplines that's being promoted as something that's really cool, it's coming down from professors, you know in the universities so it's being sold as credible then but when you actually look into the stuff you expose these people for who they are, their social media then disappears. So these are people who cannot even stand by their conviction here, you know, if they could stand by that conviction, then that would be something.Tell us about the political pushback. As you've spoken, what's been the pushback, certainly from Welsh politicians?
So there's been absolutely no political pushback whatsoever. There was a handful of politicians against this, and then they didn't get in on the next election. So we had one politician they went from 23,000 votes the previous term all down to 1,200 when I know of a thousand non-voters that voted anyway. We had one member of the Senate who wasn't even on the ballot paper, so the people who were speaking out about this they seem to have disappeared.We had Kirsty Williams who was flying the flag for this education who gave a fantastic speech if anybody wants to see that on YouTube, she gave a nice performance saying how the children of Wales are banking on her, they are banking on her for this education, she did not sit in the next election she got off on the next stop, so we've got the politicians are acting like we don't exist basically they're not giving us any airtime they have even said that this is paedophile conspiracies when what we have said is these are paedophile policies and you only have to look at the paedophile information exchange manifesto to see that, you know, so again we've proven that as fact as well.There is no political pushback, there is a group in parliament, a group of about 40 politicians who are fighting against this gender ideology but again they're from all different political parties So there is no political pushback whatsoever. This is a political pantomime. This is a political agenda going into our schools. So you wouldn't expect any political pushback then because they all seem to be singing from the same hymn sheet.I was shocked in Westminster whenever the case you mentioned, getting parents getting access to the educational materials, that then one of the MPs has asked the government, we need to have access and say, well, you're part of a conservative government for 13 years, this happened under your watch.How is that, that seems the most natural thing for parents to have engagement and understand what their children are teaching, and yet schools seem to have hidden it away, as if this is something wrong and therefore you can't see. It's literally, we are sexually engaging with your child and you don't have a right to know. It's a weird concept for us to understand as parents.So the government were going to launch a campaign as a matter of urgency against the misinformation that we were putting out there. Well, we were still waiting for this campaign because if this education is as good as they say it is, they should be shouting it from the rooftops, not hiding it from us. So as a parent or any concerned citizen, you know, the children are all of our responsibility. The children are the future. What happens to them shapes the world, you know. And this is what we're dealing with. If this was as good as they said it was, they would be shouting it from the rooftops. They would have me on a live debate there and then, I've offered all 60 ministers of the Senate, all 650 ministers of Parliament. So if this was as good as they said it was, they would have me on TV and they would absolutely destroy me there and then splash this all over the newspapers and say, this is moral panic, this is exactly what you're having, you can access it at any time, this is going to keep your children safe. But they cannot do that. They cannot do it and we all know why they cannot do it. Because it's too sinister.Tell us, coming near the end, tell us about people getting involved with you. How do people get involved? How do they make a difference? 
So they can subscribe to our website, publicchildprotectionwales.org or you can join different sex education groups on Facebook, Twitter, follow the people that you know, follow the people in your area.We are building a coalition, so a UK-wide coalition. We are no longer being trapped with these invisible borders. This is not a devolved matter, this is a global matter.We have to unite this kingdom.We are currently in the process of working with different groups like the School Gate Campaign, Rally for the Children Cornwall, there's lots of different groups. We are removing the logos from our flyers, we're putting our work together, we are compiling a four-page flyer which is going to address all the issues in England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales. It's a universal leaflet, we will be raising money for all the groups to get this out there. We are on a mission to inform and educate. We're not here to debate and waste time, we're out there to inform people, connect, get people understanding they are not on their own in this, this is a global thing.We're supporting each other, we're meeting, we're networking, this is our opportunity now guys.We can cover a lot of ground over the six weeks holidays and then we can all meet in Parliament Square on the 13th of September to remind Rishi Sunak that we are watching, we are waiting, we are going nowhere. Our children are too precious to wait to be saved. So we will be looking into a nationwide sit-out, you know, removing children from school because that was powerful in Canada.There was 90 children, 90,000 children in this district and I think 30,000 were removed on the first day of Pride Month. That had a massive impact. We can do this guys, but we just get together, get networking. First point of contact, subscribe to our website, we'll keep you informed.Join the coalition against indoctrination and sexualization of children in schools.That's on Facebook, get on there guys and all groups are now working in unison.We are building a UK-wide coalition. This is a movement, only a movement can stop this.It was a movement that brought it in, only a movement can get it out.It has to be people power, no other way around it.Yeah, we've had Susan Mason on before a number of times, School Gates campaign does a fantastic job.Going to Westminster, that means what you're doing is important, not just for Wales, but wider. What you've started is looking at what's in Wales, but going to Westminster, shows actually that this is something that affects every single part of the UK and wider.
Well, this is it. So we were saying we're going to start small and then take them all.We had to focus on the fight in Wales because it was a preventative campaign. You see, there was already less than content around the rest of the UK. So it was preventative campaign ours was, and we always knew what happened here in Wales would affect the whole of the UK. So we tried really hard, do you know what I mean, to destroy this legislation. But the judicial system is simply not on our side. We always said this was going to be a case of uniting the kingdom, but we did focus our fight in Wales only because we had that judicial review.Now it's a damage limitation campaign, we all need to be on the front line now and that's what we are doing in Public Child Protection Wales. We're ensuring each group has what they need, we're encouraging them to meet, we're going to be supplying leaflets all around the country, and like I said we're in the process of putting these together now. Factual information that covers all four countries, a universal leaflet, everybody has a right to know.And I guess also important for anyone watching who is a teacher or involved in the education process, we kind of sometimes think the education process has been captured by a Marxist ideology, and that is true. But there still will be many good people in the education sector.And I guess important for teachers, if they see something that they think is inappropriate, they can, I guess, whistle-blow, they can pass the information on and highlight it.
Absolutely, yes, they could. And we will do everything in our power to keep that, confidential. We would never rename that teacher or where this information has come from. But we do have to be working together now. I suspect a lot of training that's gone on in recent years is alienating parents from the training and we do feel like you know the whole profession has turned against us but you can't do your job without us. Things are going to happen in your work environment where our children are, and the only people that's going to be able to help you are the parents. Now you've got to work with the parents because you are the ones the government has put on the front line. With this case law we've got here in work now, you are the ones in the firing line, we will be coming after teachers because that's our only option now. They've put you in this position, help us get you out of it.Kim, I really appreciate you coming on, what you're doing is absolutely essential and I think it's one of the key battles to actually protect our children from this ideology that wants the whole gender reassignment stuff, all of that, it's a slope that children cannot recover from, it's irreversible, some of that, and what's been forced on them.So thank you so much for coming on and sharing what you're doing with Public Child Protection Wales.
Oh, thank you for having us. We appreciate this. You know, we appreciate all the support we can get.

Kingsley Cortes - MAGA 2024: The Supreme Court Swallows the Red Pill and Lessons Learned from Trump 2020

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Kingsley Cortes is someone with a deep understanding of the political and social  media world. At GETTR Social Media she was integral, along with Jason Miller, to their incredible rise and Kingsley also served on the Trump 2020 campaign. She joins Hearts of Oak to share her experiences from that campaign and what lessons were learned that will make the Trump 2024 campaign a completely different beast.  We discuss how 'The Don' has been able to mould the party in his image and make MAGA so much more than just a political slogan. Then there is the revelation of the Supreme Court. We are now a year after the overturning of Roe vs Wade, how has it suddenly been red pilled with 3 huge decisions in one day?  Then we end up discussing voter demographics looking ahead to 2024.
Kingsley Cortes is the Digital Media Manager for 'Center for Renewing America', she is a political communications and marketing professional with experience in journalism, presidential campaign strategy, and social media. Kingsley most recently worked as Director of Operations at GETTR Social Media.Prior to GETTR, she served on President Donald J. Trump’s 2020 Re-election Campaign as Executive Assistant to the Senior Advisor for Strategy. Kingsley graduated in 2021 from the University of California Los Angeles with degrees in Political Science and Classical Studies.A Chicago native, she now resides in Arlington, Virginia.
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Interview recorded 5.7.23
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(Hearts of Oak)Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Kingsley Cortes. I got to know Kingsley through my time at GETTR. She at the moment is working for the Centre for Renewing America and was on the 2020 Trump campaign, and that's where we start, asking her about her experiences, what that was like, then looking ahead to 2024, whether Republicans have actually learned the games the Democrats play and whether they've learned how to more effectively play the game. And then we go on to so many things. MAGA, how MAGA has become much more than a slogan, how it is literally a way of life. Putting America first. Game-changer. The Supreme Court, how they've been red-pilled in the last few weeks and back overturning Roe v. Wade decision a year ago. How that has happened, how their Court has become so conservative. Part of it, of course, we discuss is in Trump's three nominations to the Supreme Court, which is huge. And then we just end up talking about the demographics, voting demographics, looking at 2024, the youth vote, and how that will play into the elections. 
Kingsley Cortes, it's wonderful that you could join us today. Thanks for your time.(Kingsley Cortes)
Thanks so much for having me, Peter. 
Not at all, and obviously we, well I knew you from back in the GETTR days. We'll maybe touch on that, but people can find you @KingsleyCortes on GETTR, Twitter, or those are the two main places.
GETTR, Twitter and Truth Social as well. I've opened an account on there.So yeah, you can find me, same username on all of the platforms.Please give me a follow. I put out a lot of content that I think is engaging and fresh. So check it out.
Definitely. And obviously you're heading up to digital media at Center for Renewing America.We'll touch on that. You are part of the leadership team of Washington, D.C. Young Republicans, and you obviously were part of the Trump 2020 campaign, which we'll delve into as well.I mean, tell us about Centre for a New America, because I love watching Russ Vought on War Room.And I hadn't come across, being a Brit, I can always make excuses.So I've enjoyed watching him there.But tell us a little bit, you've only been with Centre for a New America for a short time.
That is correct, yes, and you'll see a lot of our fellows or our president, Russ Vought on War Room frequently.I think we have, you know, someone at least from our office on there almost every day, which is fantastic.But at the Center for Renewing America, we're basically a Washington, D.C.based think tank, but we are kind of different from the establishment think tanks that have existed for years in you see in that I think we really have our finger on the pulse.Of the issues that the base cares about, right? Gone is the GOP of endless foreign wars, tax cuts, and gay marriage. We are here to fight the culture war. We're here to fight for American communities across this country. We have a large grassroots operation. And we're just here to fight for America, right? I think becoming proud of America's founding has really kind of devolved into something that people see as evil or as something that one shouldn't strive for. We want to renew that pride and that patriotism. So that's really our mission as an organization.And I run their digital media operation. So I'm putting out a bunch of content every day.We have a lot of folks that are on TV every day. I'm putting out clips of those, and we're really just kind of trying to shift the narrative, right? Shift from this Old Testament GOP thinking to the new kind of America first Republican party that we're seeing emerging here.So I'm really excited about the work that we're doing at the center. I think it's incredibly important. We're small, but we punch above our weight class. So please check us out on all the platforms as well. We're @amrenewctr for Centre. And give us a follow. And you know, if you like what we're doing, feel free to sign up for all of our email lists and things of that nature. But we're really trying to push forward this America First agenda. I think that is the bottom line.That is the only way we are going to save this country from decline. 
100%. I know you've just celebrated. We didn't celebrate, obviously, Fourth of July. Maybe you need a Centre for Renewal in the UK. I think we need something like that to challenge the, I guess, so-called conservative groups and parties that have absolutely failed on any engagement in the culture wars. 
Right, yeah. I think your Tory party maybe makes our GOP, which I complain about, look, you know, radical. So you guys have a bit of the same problem we do, that's for sure.
We really do. So let's get... Trump. Obviously, we have a Trump 2016, Trump 2020, and Trump 2024 is just around the corner.You were very much part of that 2020 campaign. Let us know how that happened and how did you find it? Most people have no idea what it's like to be in a political campaign of that level, so give us some kind of insights on what that was like for you.
Yeah, absolutely. So I kind of started out my career in politics when I was in college.I wrote for the National Pulse, which is a publication of Raheem Kassam, who you know, and that's kind of how I got my feet wet in this movement. I just applied, you know, online to do a free writing fellowship, and I was able to kind of explore how to frame a narrative, how to research political issues, and all of those things. And a couple of my articles did very well and I got to do a couple of war room appearances here and there. So through that I met Jason Miller who founded War Room Impeachment with Bannon and with Raheem Kassam.So you know, great network there and he ultimately dragged me on to the 2020 race and I worked with him there kind of as his deputy and we did a lot of marketing and communication strategy.But no, a presidential campaign, I mean, is all hands on deck. It's exhausting, you know, long hours for sure. It's high stress, it's fast paced, but I really enjoyed it because I believed in what we were fighting for.I believed, you know, that Trump was ushering in incredible wins for the American economy, for the American people. We were respected abroad again, right? And unfortunately, the election didn't go, you know, as planned. It was stolen. And, you know, I think that in the aftermath of that, we quite didn't have the litigation or the lawyer kind of strength to fight it wholeheartedly. But I think, you know, that election in many ways was a wake-up call.Not just on the election integrity front, but also on the big tech front. They censored the president of the United States. This was a totally unprecedented move. And I for one never thought, you know, the Silicon Valley oligarchs would be so bold. It was shocking to me that, you know, they would totally de-platform a duly elected president of the United States.And if you remember as well, it wasn't just him. The New York Post was, they had their account locked for a number of days for posting a story about the Hunter Biden laptop. I mean, the way that the media in many ways stole the election with big tech, colluding with our government was just absurd. It was unlike anything we had ever seen before. So I think for me, you know, being on that race at a high level, I realized exactly what we're up against, because I think for a long time, conservatives have kind of felt that we can work with the Democrats, right? We can reach bipartisan conclusions and bills. But I think this Democrat Party that we're dealing with in the modern age is totally unrecognizable to a Democrat, you know, of my grandpa's generation. These are radical neo-Marxist ideologues that are hell-bent on destroying the fabric of American society.So ultimately, you know that big tech kind of brazenness in censoring the president led me to really take an interest in pursuing big tech and free speech issues and that's why I wound up with Jason Miller at GETTR and we really tried to create a platform where all speech was allowed. You could engage in the exchange of ideas. You could have debates. So that was something that I think is really important to strive for as we continue. Whatever we do, whether that's working in politics or whether that's working, you know, in business, what have you, we all need to be embracing of ideas, right? We can't be afraid or be shut down by the leftist kind of mainstream thinking. We need to stand up for what we believe in and know that what we believe in is something that is foundational to America, right? It's embedded in our history and our heritage. So kind of a long answer for you there, but I just think, you know, the campaign in 2020 is a lesson and looking forward to 24.I think that there are a lot of things that we can take from 2020 that maybe we didn't do so well, or maybe that we did great.And I think we're going to really see in 2024 a clean, well-oiled machine.I think, you know, this Trump group, they know exactly what to do.Trump knows exactly what to do. He has his kind of marching orders.He has his mission. He knows how to take down the deep state that is aimed squarely at him and aimed squarely at the American people.Oh, 2024 is going to be so different. But about 2020, because looking at it as a Brit where our issue is tribal voting and people saying, I don't agree with that, but I'm going to vote for them anyway, because I've always, that's our kind of stuck in the rust. We don't have the mess, I guess, which you have. I've watched the voting regularly at many elections and the rush to get the paper ballots, you physically watch them, you can check everything, there are piles of them, everything is there. I'm wondering how it took until 2020 for Republicans to, wake up and think something's not right, because this obviously had been building up to then.Yeah, no, I mean, it's a fantastic question. As a Republican Party member, it's one that frustrates me greatly, right?How underprepared we have been for a lot of the tactics that the leftists have pulled, you know, just in the past 10, 20 years.I think that the Democrat Party kind of had a leg up because they've owned a lot of these kind of city operations and controls, right? They have a lot of institutional power when it comes to blue cities.So I think those kinds of environments gave them time to perfect their craft in a way.And I think a lot of Republicans, sadly, were just asleep at the wheel.I think Republicans, because we are good natured, because we are honest and we truly want the best for this country, we don't think like our enemy, right? We're not devious.We're not trying to cheat, of course, but what we've come to realize, I think, with Trump is that he's really pulled back the curtain, right, and shown us who these people are.He's shown us the Swamp's true colours. I mean, for so long, you know, we didn't know just how much the people in, you know, the D.C. Beltway despised those of us outside the Beltway, those of us who have traditional American values, but Trump kind of showed us who they are.And I think that's a wake-up call, right? we realize now that we're sort of playing a game of poker, one side's cheating, and we haven't been cheating this whole time, so we're wondering why we're losing, right?We need to get off the deck, right? Play a totally different game.We have always kind of tried to beat the Democrats at their own game, at their own kind of methods and ways of doing things, and we need to break out of that kind of mental matrix, I think, and I think Trump, because he was such an outsider, was able to do that.He was not in this typical, you know, DC pipeline where you go from the RNC to a different think tank.And then, you know, you become a lobbyist and you cash in and you don't really care about what Americans are thinking and you're not in touch with the issues that matter to them.And I think because Trump was totally outside that world, it allowed him to bring that different perspective.And of course there was backlash, right? The traditional kind of Republicans, what I like to call the establishment Republicans were fearful of that.They don't want someone to come in and kind of shake things up.So I think you're always gonna see those elements with Trump even in the 2024 campaign.You're gonna see folks at the RNC that aren't totally on his side that are maybe even kind of trying to hurt him in ways that are underhanded and things of that nature. But I think that what we need is someone who is an outsider. We can't have someone fix it from the inside, right? The system has become so entrenched, so corrupt, we need kind of a bulldozer to go through it and to just blow it all up and rebuild it as something that is really for the American people. And I think that person is Donald Trump in 2024. I think, you know, it's always been Trump. He has started something that cannot be put back in the bottle. You know, the genie can't be put back in the bottle. The America First movement isn't going anywhere, even after Trump. I think a lot of people in the UK as well with Brexit, I think you saw a lot of people wake up to just the way things had been done.It wasn't working for them. It didn't represent them. There was this cabal of global elite that that didn't have their national interests at heart. And I think the American people and perhaps the British people know that and they're ready to fight.They're not gonna forget.I remember at CPAC, listened to one and a half hours of Trump and it was pure theatre, loved it.We'll get into that and I won't talk about clashing the Republican establishment and what Trump brings in, but you mentioned about playing the game.And one of the things that Republicans are playing catch up is how you vote, getting people to vote.And again, in the UK, so different. We have, well, probably well over 90% is voting on the day.We don't have your drop boxes, your collect as many bits of paper and fill them in.We don't have that. We don't have weeks and weeks of voting.We have one day from seven in the morning till nine at night.Playing the game means understanding how the other half are doing it and coming up with a better attack. And on the voting, on the getting out early, I've heard a lot of conversation about that, certainly in the War Room, Bannon talking a lot about Republicans having to wake up. Does that mean the ground game is better on using the system and getting those votes out early?Yeah, absolutely. And, you know, you talk about War Room, they mention this all the time, we need to be ballot harvesting, right? We need to be going up to individuals' doors, asking them to vote just as the Democrats have done. Republicans, again, because I think they're good-natured and honest, they want to vote typically in person on election day. They want to see their vote, you know, go in the machine. They want to present their ID. And there's no problem with that, right? Of course, that's a fantastic way to vote. But unfortunately a lot of the rigging that's happening is through the mail-in. So we can't shy away from the mail-in.And I think this is a mistake that we made on the 2020 campaign.We really went back and forth on the messaging, right? We said, oh, mail-ins are unconstitutional.We can't push for this, even with COVID. And then we also said, oh, wait, but if you do want to vote, you know, mail-in.If you do feel kind of, you know, it's a danger to your health going to your precinct, then please mail-in.So there was kind of a lot of back and forth.I think going along with our campaign messaging, I think we should have been much clearer on that.And I think you see President Trump being much clearer on that in his 24 race.But yeah, we can't shy away from mail-in voting.We have to have grassroots activists engaged as well. I think, you know, a lot of Republicans, they go to their day job and, you know, they follow politics as a hobby, but they're not really actively engaged in it.I think, you know, Democrats, all of them, it's basically their hobby, right, is politics.They're knocking on doors, they're protesting.They really have kind of cornered that activist market, especially for young people.So I tell people, you know, in DC all the time or outside of DC, just get off the side-lines, right?Run for your school board, become an election poll watcher. There are so many different things that you can do, even at small local levels that will make a change in your county, in your state, and ultimately in your country.We can't afford for anyone to be sitting this one out. I think this is truly the most pivotal election that we are going to have in American history. We are truly fighting for the future of our country.So we all have to be a part of it.We can't have any single person, you know.Just checked out or leaving it up to the professionals everyone has a role to play everyone has a vested interest in this country, too right, if you have kids if you have grandkids you want them to grow up in a nation as great as the one you remember. I talked to so many older folks or the boomer kind of generation. They have such fond memories of Reagan's America, right? It was such a wonderful place to live. It was safe. The economy was booming. We were kicking the Soviets butts. It was just a wonderful time and I think, you know, they see what our country has devolved into so quickly and they're disheartened but it really needs to kind of be a kick in the butt in many ways. They need to realize I need to fight for my children's future because I want them to have all of the freedoms and opportunities that I had as a kid and I think sadly those are slipping away. We are truly devolving into a radical Neo-Marxist kind of country with an ideology that is just pure evil. So we need to all be standing up and fighting against this and that starts at the ballot box, absolutely.Yeah. You talk about the establishment side and Trump, probably like no other, has shaped the party in his image to an extent, and probably even further shaped the Republican voter base in his image. I think that's probably more. And you mentioned Reagan. I don't know whether it's just people looking back and thinking it wasn't a great under Reagan. I don't know actually if at the time that it was seen as his party. So I think Trump's done it in a way that's never been seen before. Is that a fair enough comment?
Yes, absolutely. And again, I think it's just because he is that brash outsider, right?You can't fit him into any box.He doesn't fit a mould. And I think traditionally, republicanism has really represented states' rights, small government, few taxes. That's always what we've thought of as right wing in this country for decades.And I think Trump came in and he said, no, we have big government.It's not going away. I'm going to use it.I'm going to weaponize the government powers that I have to protect the American citizens and to go after this woke bureaucracy that we're seeing entrenched in DC.He's also pretty populist, right? We've seen a lot of economic policy advancements from him, that aren't, you know, your traditional, we just want tax cuts and that's it.He wants to give people a chance, particularly young people.He's talked about it on the campaign trail with his, you know, freedom cities idea, building different freedom cities across national parks in the country to give young people the opportunity to realize their American dream, right?Because I think so many young people in this economy today, they're crippled with student debt.Inflation is just hitting them really hard.The idea of someday owning a home, owning a car even, raising a family, paying for college, it all feels so out of reach.Young people have been really, really tarnished by the economy that Biden has largely created.But even just the Democrats have largely created for years, right?They've shipped all of our manufacturing jobs overseas to China since basically the 90s, And they've essentially ripped off the American worker so much that, you know, the notion of having wealth or being able to accrue wealth just totally feels, you know, like a fantasy. It doesn't feel like something worth doing anymore.I even think to, you know, my parents' generation, my dad was able to have a home, purchase a home, own a home.On one salary, right. Now, that's almost, you know, unheard of. Two parents have to be working to be able to to be able to purchase a house.So I think that the kind of populist bent that Trump gives the Republican party is definitely why it is kind of in his image now.It's something totally different than Republicanism we've seen before.It is something that is new.It is something that's for the people. It's engaged with the base.I think too, a lot of Republicans for years haven't been engaged with their voters.They've been listening to, you know, pollsters in Washington, D.C.Talking to New York stockbrokers about what they should do. They've never quite been as in touch with the average American as Donald Trump is. So I think that's the difference. I think that's why this is truly his party. But like I said before, once you know this Trump saga is over, after his 24 presidency, once we're done with Donald Trump, I think this America First movement is here to stay. I don't think it's going anywhere. 
Well, I remember in 2016, I remember looking at Ben Carson. I thought Ben Carson was the best choice and then looking at Ted Cruz. And then when Trump got the nomination and then had a MAGA slogan, which wasn't a slogan, it went far, usually elections have slogans, but I think it went far beyond a slogan to actually a way of life, is, are we going to put America first or not? And that really struck me because now politicians aren't supposed to say they'll put their country first.That's bad in a global system, but Trump said, like, screw you.I'm going to put America first. That's the priority.And how, I guess, has it taken that long? Because there hasn't been a priority and the slipping away of US influence, US manufacturing, jobs on US oil has been slipping away, not just under Democrat, but under Republican. So, I mean, tell us about that and how that's changed things.Yeah, so a lot of people don't know this. This actually really largely started with Joe Biden.In 2001, Joe Biden advocated for China's inclusion into the WTO.And after that, in the next decade, from 2001 to 2011, the Chinese took 2.7 million jobs from Americans.So I think in many ways, Biden has actually kind of been the chief architect of this offshoring to China and elsewhere, to India and various places.And I think that because Republicans started to put GDP kind of above the interests of their countrymen.All they cared about was GDP. All they cared about was trade deals, right?And Wall Street numbers and things of that nature. They kind of just went along with it.They said, oh yeah, a global system, you know, it's great for our stocks.It's great for the millionaires on Wall Street, on K Street, they're all making bajillions.They have no kind of reason to stop this globalization because it's serving them.So I think Republicans and Democrats together really kind of created this crisis.And it has accelerated like crazy. I mean, I certainly didn't think America's decline would be so swift, but in the past, I mean, 20 years, you have just seen our economy totally tank.You have seen communities across this country be ravaged by economic crises.They are no longer able to enjoy the things of life that their grandparents did.They are leasing cars, they're leasing apartments. I even saw the other day Apple was offering some sort of lease an iPhone deal.It's kind of the WEF model of, you know, you will own nothing and you will be happy.We've been sold this totally false bag of goods.And it's totally contradictory to our identity as Americans, right?Americans care about ownership.We're very individualistic. You know, we're rough and we'll fight for what we want.And that's always been our identity. And unfortunately, this kind of global identity that has superseded America's identity in the eyes of our beltway and coastal elite has really been one that doesn't align with our founding.And I think it's really just been a disservice to the American people as well.I mean, over 50% of Americans today say they are living pay check to pay check.I mean, that is just something that would be unheard of in the Reagan years or even earlier than that. So I think that we're seeinga truly economic crisis. And for young people especially, I think it's just going to be immensely difficult, right? It's just such a barrier to entry now that you can't even, you know, get rid of student loan debt, that your salary can't even pay for somewhere nice for you to live. It's just what they have totally done to young people and to just people in general across this country, I think is really sick. And Trump is the only one who really kind of brought it to the light. He was the only Republican who said, Hey, these trade deals, they're not working for you. They're not in our interest. Why are we pursuing them? Why are we kind of just for, you know, Oh, this is the way we've done it. Why is that our approach? We need a totally different mindset. We need to completely decouple from China, bring all of our manufacturing and jobs here. You even look at the situation in Taiwan, right? The reason that we're kind of so hesitant to get involved in Taiwan or wondering if we should get involved is because our semiconductors are there, right? Of course we want freedom for the Taiwanese, but that's a big part of it, right? And we're in this situation where all of our semiconductor manufacturing is over there and we're in kind of a pickle because of the establishment Republicans and Democrats, because they've shipped all of our jobs overseas, all over the world. And they've just, they've really kind of tarnished the American working class in doing so. So I think, you know, Trump is really at the forefront of bringing those jobs home. I think that is one of the only things that can revitalise this economy because unfortunately, it has been on a downward trajectory for far too long.
Supreme Court. They seem to be red pilled recently, like very recently. But stepping back, I mean Trump had nominated, was it, three Supreme Court judges and I was looking back andI mean, you look at Obama and Bush and Clinton, they did two in two terms.And I don't think, I mean...Two-thirds of our viewers are UK, about 20% are US, so most of our viewers won't realise the, I guess, importance and power that the Supreme Court has in US society in the law-making process.So tell us about it, because three Supreme Court judges is huge, that is a massive legacy, and who knows what will happen 24 to 2028?Yes. Right. No, absolutely. It is a massive accomplishment of the Trump administration.There is no question.And I think these three opinions that we've seen have been really encouraging for conservatives across the country. And of course, you know, we already see leftists now pushing ideas like packing the court.They're kind of flailing. I think they didn't think that, you know, conservatives would be able to fight back in this way using the court.And I think part of that is really an accomplishment of Trump.And I think it's a wonderful one.The affirmative action case in particular, I think is incredibly important. I mean, selecting individuals based on their race, not based on their merit or their skill set, is just totally backwards. And it's antithetical to every Western value that we've ever held, right? If you are able to do the work, if you are the most qualified candidate, then you should be selected, whether that is for a job promotion, for entry into a university, whatever it is. But unfortunately the left has totally turned that on its head and it's twisted it into this idea that race is all that matters and that we should judge people on the colour of their skin. And I just think as Americans, we have to stand up against that. I'm so encouraged to see the courts stand up against that. The other case, this student loan issue in particular, Biden's order using the COVID policies as leftover policies to justify his student loan cancellation of debt was completely against our American Constitution. There is no doubt about it. I will say, you know, I think conservatives need to come up with a creative approach to handle the student loan issue.So many of our young people, as I mentioned earlier, are saddled with debt. They've been kind of sold a false bill of goods. These universities have, you know, told them they need to attend in order to get a job and that they should major in something like gender studies, or even if they did major in something useful like engineering, the school has only taught them leftist indoctrination, right?That was something I experienced at my American university. I went to the University of California at Los Angeles.So, you know, it was totally in the lion's den there. And I was taking political science, which I wanted to be in politics. It was something that I thought would really prepare me and equip me, and boy, it did not.All I was told is that America's founding was evil, is that what it meant to be an American is to kill Native Americans. I mean, I was just totally, just faced with this radical leftism. I had professors who were openly Marxist. So I think, you know, in some capacity, we need to hold these universities accountable, right? They have large endowments.They should be paying at least a portion of the student loan debts that are just saddling and crippling our young people across this country, because what these institutions are doing is truly evil. They're jacking up the prices of college. I mean, I think when I paid my tuition, I was paying for green initiatives on campus.You can't say no to that kind of stuff. It's all wrapped in.I think these universities are really up to no good and we have to hold them accountable.And then the other case with the individual, the woman who didn't want to be conscripted to make the LGBTQ website, I think that's a massive win for social conservatism as well.I think that we've seen this kind of LGBTQ cult of indoctrination really forcing their hand on a lot of American institutions.You almost can't go anywhere in America in the month of June without seeing a rainbow flag or without being told you need to post that you stand in support with LGBTQ Americans.I mean, it's totally become in many ways a religion, right? We've always said in America, we have this separation of church and state.We don't anymore because our new state religion is this gender confusion.And we are exporting it across the world as well. We're sending money all over the world.We're funding pride parades in Prague, LGBTQ movie nights in Australia.I mean, the way that this group has been able to kind of co-opt the American government and American institutions is totally ludicrous.And what they are doing is really engaging in grooming, especially of young people, right?One in five Gen Z Americans now identifies as LGBTQ. It used to be, you know, they just kind of pushed forward this born this way narrative.And it was a very small subset of the population that kind of stuck to themselves.And, you know, no one really cared what they did in the privacy of their own bedroom, but it's not in your own bedroom anymore. We're seeing this out on the streets.We are seeing these marchers parading in front of kids, largely naked.It is just devolved into total degeneracy. So I think pushing back against that as well with that decision is a massive win for Christian or socially conservative individuals.And I'm really encouraged to see these wins from the court.I will say the Democrats are of course going to try to fight back, right?We already saw these universities with the affirmative action case say that they're going to consider race in things like the essay.So we have to be sure that we're enforcing these rulings, right?I think the Supreme Court makes the ruling and then it's up to congressional leadership to, in many ways, pass legislation that will enforce and strengthen that ruling.So I think that's something to watch for in the coming months here.
Yeah, all three surprised me. The LGBT one is probably the one that surprised me most and we've just struggled through Pride as well. And it's interesting because the church has not, really, really have collapsed in actually speaking truth and opposing that taking the rainbow and completely changing its meaning. But what is that, because here a lot of conservatives are so scared to even go against, because I think the aggression from, especially from the trans movement. What is it like, because MAGA seemed to be fully hardcore on these, in a way the Republican Party as a whole should be. And how is it that you've got a subsection, MAGA, actually willing to stand against the nonsense of Pride and everything it brings, but yet, if you look at the more established Republican who you'd think, I mean, you look at Fox News and they were promoting LGBT Pride Month. How has that happened?Right. I think that, you know, the kind of new right, this America First movement that Trump started, has really realized that the Christian conservatives we kind of mocked during the Obergefell decision that said, oh, you know, gay marriage is legal now. This will be a slippery slope. We mocked a lot of those people back in the day. And I was one of those, you know, I was a little bit more libertarian in my youth. I thought, you know, what you want to do is your business so long as it doesn't affect me. But I think those Christian conservatives who sounded the alarm were really right. Once, you kind of open the floodgates to a lot of this perversion, to a lot of this degeneracy.It sinks its teeth into almost every aspect of American life.You can't watch a children's show today that doesn't have a gay character.You can't, you know, walk into any university without being, you know, shown an LGBTQ flag or centre or things like that, right? It's absolutely ridiculous. So I think people have become so frustrated with how it's been shoved in their face because we were told, you know, oh, just be tolerant. They won't bother you. It won't affect your life. It affects everyone's day, every single moment now. So I think that realization that you can't just live and let live, right? There is always going to be some orthodoxy that is enshrined in the public square, and it needs to be an orthodoxy that is one of tradition, right? That is one of Western ideals of man and woman and marriage and things of that nature that are important and have stood the test of time. I think if our founders woke up today and they saw all of this craziness around us, they would be just shocked to the core. I mean, the way that the social decay has accelerated is absolutely nuts. So I think the new right and conservatives are kind of against the old Republican guard that think, oh, if you want to do that, that's fine. It doesn't affect me.Now it's in your kid's school, right? You're seeing teachers across the country that have gay books in their libraries or they're switching their child's pronouns without the knowledge of the parents.It's absolutely insane. And what they're doing is they're preying on children because those who cannot reproduce, they recruit, they groom.So what they're doing is they're targeting different opportunity demographics and that's largely children. And they're preying on a child's imaginative kind of creative point in their life, right? Because when you're a kid, you obviously you have no concept of your sexual self and you shouldn't until you reach puberty. That's very normal. That's how biology works.But unfortunately, the left has kind of gone after that period of maybe, you know, awkwardness. You had a growth spurt.You don't feel totally at home in your body.They're using that kind of growth and that period in a child's life and they're they're targeting it.They're twisting it and they're morphing it into something that is wholly evil.I mean, how awful is it to see trans violence across this country, too?I think we have truly sick, mentally ill people walking around.You have the Nashville shooter, for instance. There was a shooter just last night who police are saying was a cross-dresser.I think we have individuals who are really hurting, whether they have a mental illness.If that's body dysmorphia or something else.And what we're doing instead of giving them adequate care is we're just chopping off their fully functioning organs and injecting them with a bunch of foreign hormones. It is totally a recipe for disaster. And if we keep going down this road, we're going to have a population that is largely unstable and that's not conducive to societal success. That's not something we want to strive for. So we need to go after also a lot of these institutions that are pushing this stuff. I mentioned the universities earlier. They're a big portion of it. I think, big pharma is a big portion of it. They see these people as lifelong patients. They want to get them hooked on, you know, certain chemically castrating drugs, things like that. So we need to be really fighting against this stuff. And I think the new right, the America First Trump movement understands that, they know that this has gone too far, it's gone over the line. And we need to get back to our roots to our traditional concepts of gender, man and woman. 
Couldn't agree more. Keep it simple. There's only two. You're looking ahead to 2024. How does the, voting demographics break down? When you look at the youth vote, there are so many ones, but specifically looking at the youth vote. How do you see that working out? What are your thoughts on that?Yeah, so I think, you know, you'll hear a lot of Republicans say that Gen Z is a persuadable demographic. I'm not so sold being a member of that generation myself. As I mentioned, one in five Gen Z Americans identify as LGBTQ. I think this is truly the most radical generation that this country has ever seen. I think that these kids are Marxists. They've totally drunk the Kool-Aid and a lot of it too is largely not their fault, right? If you go to college apolitical in the United States, you are going to be a radical leftist by the time you get out. You have to go in with strong conservative values or you're just going to be indoctrinated, unfortunately, because your teachers, using their position of power, will espouse this radical left ideology that is just totally anti-American. It's not embracing of any other ideas or contrary views. So I think, you know, Gen Z is really going to be a problem for the Republican Party unless we start to shift narratives, right? Unless we start to really get ahead of issues that matter to young people. As I've been hitting home, you know, the economy is a major one. I talk to so many young people who just feel totally disenfranchised. They feel like their birth right has been stolen from them because they can't accumulate wealth. I'll give you an example. In 1998, which is the year I was born, millennials, Americans under 40, they held 13% of all national wealth.Today, that same age group, they hold just 5% of national wealth.So in almost 25 years, that's been cut in half.Young people are being totally wrecked by this economy. So I think starting to put issues at the forefront, like the ability to have a family on one income, you see Blake Masters talk about that a lot.JD Vance talk about that a lot.I think that's something that's huge and going to attract a lot of young people, a creative student loan approach as well. I mentioned, you know, thatI think colleges should be partially held accountable for it.I don't think it should just be up to the student to pay those off.A lot of times, traditional Republicans, they say, oh, you know, you took out the debt. It's your responsibility to pay.Absolutely. I think we should, you know, hold them accountable for at least some of it.But I also think these universities need to be punished.And then I think, you know, we need kind of a dual-pronged approach to that issue.I also think the social issues matter a lot to young people.I think the loudest voices in the conservative youth movement, sadly, are kind of the radical kids, you know, the pro-choice or the LGBTQ mafia. But I tell young people all the time, remember, there are so many young Americans across this country, in middle America, in the quote-unquote flyover states, that believe your values, right? They go to church, they prescribe to a two-gender viewpoint of life, they want to start a family someday. So I think just being loud and voicing your opinions if you are a traditional kind of conservative-minded American is so important because the left wins when we feel alone, when we feel like I'm shouting into the void, no one shares my opinions, I'm totally on an island here, I'm all alone. And I think that when we realize that there are so many voters out there that agree with us, I try to remind myself just every day, you know, how many people support Donald Trump. When I look at pictures of his rally in South Carolina, I think, oh, wow, I live in D.C. where I'm behind enemy lines and I'm surrounded by swamp monsters, but there are people in South Carolina that believe in this message and that believe in this president.So I think, you know, young people, they're out there.They're kind of a silent majority. They just feel like they've been silenced and they can't voice their opinion.They need to get loud.We need those people to come off the side-lines.With a campaign, obviously, I've heard DeSantis speak when I was over in Florida in February.Then heard Trump speak at CPAC, and I know I've talked to so many people, I know you've experienced different viewpoints in family, I'm sure it'll be across the country, and as much as I think DeSantis is brilliant for what he's done in Florida, if Trump's in the ring, you don't even get in it. I mean, Trump is Trump. You don't, you just cheer him on. And I'm perplexed why anyone thinks they should go up against Trump. 
Mm-hmm. Yeah, and I agree with you, you know, I am not a DeSantis hater by any means I think what he's done for Florida is absolutely incredible particularly, you know during the COVID pandemic his leadership. He really was at the forefront of a lot of stuff pushing back against, you know Fauci and all the lunacy we saw coming from the CDC and HHS. So he has been really a fantastic governor for the state of Florida, but he's young, right?I think that you know, he certainly has a bright future maybe as our president someday. But I just don't think that time is yet. I don't think the Trump saga is over. You watch Trump on the campaign trail now. He is not missing a beat. He's totally 2016 Trump he looks as if he hasn't aged, that Florida Sun has been rather kind to him. His golf swing still just as strong as ever. So I think you know, we can't count him out he needs to finish what he started. I think too, there's always a learning curve with presidents, right? You get into the White House, you kind of have to get your bearings and assess the administrative state that's around you. That's what so many people don't realize is when you become president, you're kind of in charge of a lot of different agencies that are filled with individuals who aren't on your side. They didn't support your presidency. They've been working at, you know, the Department of Justice for the past 20 years. And they're totally, you know, a swamp creature that's radical and hates you and your platform and everything you ran for. So I think that can kind of be a difficult issue for a lot of presidents when they try to get things done.And I think Trump, he's used to that. He knows exactly who to fire. He knows where the bodies are buried. He kind of had that first term as a way to assessthe deep state, just how entrenched it is, where we need to go after it. I think he knows better than anybody how to totally disrupt this woke and weaponized bureaucracy, and that's why I'm behind him 100%. I think you also see the media freaking out about him. He is absolutely the most hated individual by the DC establishment, by the mainstream media, by the global elite, and that's why I love him because the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Completely. Kingsley, thanks for coming on. Actually, I was wondering how you survived university and how you survived California. I think someone sent me a meme, stop complaining about your life. There are people literally living in California. How did you survive, it?
Oh, it was very difficult. It was tough. Luckily, I had Raheem Kassam's National Pulse as a way to creatively have an outlet, but it is, those kids are wacky over there on the West Coast.Well, thanks for joining us. I'm looking forward to, obviously the viewers and listeners can watch your content throughout the campaign and of course follow Centre for Renewing America.So thanks for joining us today Kingsley.
Thanks so much for having me, Peter.

The Week According To . . . Kate Shemirani

Welcome to "The Week According To . . ." Join us as we take a meander through some of the news, articles, stories and social media posts that have piqued our interest or made our blood boil this week and we are excited to welcome back a previous guest, the irrepressible Kate Shemirani.Kate does not hold back so buckle up as we hear her thoughts on the topics this week including...- The Lancet: The most damaging paper of the pandemic, published as a pre-print, shows 74% of deaths post-vax due to the jab.- The Lancet and who funds it.- Still Clapping? NHS trusts have committed to financial plans without properly considering their consequences.- France set to allow police to spy through phones.- COVID Vaccines: Has everyone that took this injection been part of an experiment?- China: In 2011, the Chinese government directed companies to buy up foreign food producers' farmland, and that's exactly what they did.- An NHS trust has apologised to hundreds of families whose relatives caught Covid-19 in hospital and died.- NHS Chief blames the worst sickness rates on record on the 'extraordinary' response to the pandemic. - The number of athletes suffering sudden cardiac arrests and related issues has soared to alarming levels.- Military families given just one week to leave homes to make room for migrants.
Kate Shemirani is a Trained and Qualified Nurse of 36 years, a trained and qualified independent nurse prescriber, holds a diploma in personal Nutrition and is considered to be an authority in ‘avoiding and reversing disease naturally’. She is a Co founder of the British Nursing Alliance, Health Advisor/Nurse on Sons of Liberty Radio USA and Host of The Kate Shemirani Show on Unity News Network.Kate was once labelled ‘The Most Dangerous Woman in Britain’ for opposing the Lockdowns and COVID clot shots.
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Originally broadcast live 8.7.23
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Links to topics this episode...Lancet paperhttps://kirschsubstack.com/p/the-most-damaging-paper-of-the-pandemicThe Lancet https://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1677249401880756226?s=20NHS financehttps://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1677243455079084033?s=20France spy phoneshttps://www.lemonde.fr/en/france/article/2023/07/06/france-set-to-allow-police-to-spy-through-phones_6044269_7.html#:~:text=French%20lawmakers%20agreed%20to%20a,through%20phones%20and%20other%20devices.Vaccine Experimenthttps://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1676915661212114947?s=20Chinese farmlandhttps://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1676913912170573830?s=20COVID NHShttps://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1676912065976442881?s=20NHS chief https://twitter.com/KateShemirani/status/1676112610222022657?s=20Athlete Cardiac Arrests https://slaynews.com/news/1884-athlete-cardiac-arrests-in-2-5-years-1310-dead/Military Families https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2023/07/02/military-families-given-just-one-week-to-leave-homes-to-make-room-for-migrants/

Dr Brooke Miller - US Cattlemen: Anti-Farming Pressures and the Benefits of Being a Carnivore

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We have reached peak insanity as it appears that agriculture and farming are under attack from the left because they see food production as a bad thing.  We are joined today by Dr Brooke Miller to discuss this and more. Brooke is a doctor but is also a cattleman, he served as President of the US Cattlemen's Association until recently and knows the pressures on the industry. Brooke explains what goes into looking after cattle which parts of the US are known worldwide for and talks about the impact that COVID had. He discusses the regulatory and political pressures and how multinational's control the industry before sharing the benefits of a carnivore diet.
D. Brooke Miller, MD graduated Phi Beta Kappa from Virginia Tech Magna Cum Laude with a Bachelor of Science in Biology in 1982. He was a National Champion, beef cattle judging , and member of the Livestock Judging Team at Virginia Tech. He graduated the University of Virginia School of Medicine in 1986. His Residency was in Family Medicine at the Medical College of Virginia. He is board certified in Family Medicine and has worked in Emergency Medicine in both Virginia and Montana. Dr. Brooke has practiced Family Medicine for nearly 25 years, currently employed by Valley Health System with offices in Luray and Washington, VA. Brooke is the 8th generation of his family to live in Washington, VA where he carries on the family’s purebred Angus cattle operation, Ginger Hill Angus. Through his passion for cattle and farming, he became active in the United States Cattlemen’s Association, formerly serving at the organization’s president.  Together Brooke and his wife Ann have 4 children and 4 grandchildren. While his first love is his family, he is passionate about cattle and agriculture as well as health, wellness and preventive medicine. In his spare time, he is an avid cross fitter. 
Connect with Brooke at...WEBSITE:    https://www.gingerhillangus.com/ TWITTER:    https://twitter.com/Brookemillermd?s=20SUBSTACK: https://brookemillermd.substack.com/
Interview recorded 30.6.23
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(Hearts of Oak)Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Dr Brooke Miller. 
I've got to know Brooke in my travels in the US. He is a doctor, obviously, but he's also a cattleman, and he's just stepped down as president of the US Cattlemen's Association.It's an industry that I know zero about, so I wanted him to come on to discuss the industry, the meat industry, the cattle industry in the US, the different pressures they face. We look at the COVID pressures, we look at the regulatory and political pressures, We look at the difficulty of actually individuals now getting involved in the industry and he as a doctor has one source of income, the difficulty if you rely on the cattle industry as your source of income. We also look at the multinational corporations and the pressures they apply on the industry and how they stranglehold at various points. And then we end up on the carnivore diet. He's a big proponent of the carnivore diet. We look at the health benefits of that. 
Dr Brooke Miller, it's wonderful to have you with us. Thank you for your time today.(Dr Brooke Miller)
Well, thank you, Peter. I appreciate you having me on. 
Not at all, great to have you and people can find you @BrookeMillerMD on Twitter, also on Facebook, Substack, all the links are in the description. And we're going to discuss all things cattle. And I, being a Brit, don't know much, so I'm looking forward to learning. But, can I, I saw pictures of you, you were over in my neck of the woods, round the corner in the European Parliament.What on earth were you doing there? 
Well, as you know, I know Robert Malone, Robert and Jill Malone, and they've become great friends. And they're always traversing the globe, trying to fight injustice and untruths.And we went over to Brussels to have the International COVID Summit number three in Brussels.We had a meeting of physicians and scientists and interested parties.It was a private meeting on one day. And then the next day, there was a part of our delegation, testified in the European Parliament regarding COVID and the COVID response.And then the following day was a media day, but it was fun and it was informative and we had a great time.So I really appreciate Robert and Jill in dragging Anne and I along, and it was a life experience.
Let me start with you. Your background is a medical background, but you also will get onto the cattle side and you're, what, born and bred Virginia. Do you want to just introduce yourself before we get into the topic.Did you say just describe myself you said? 
Yes, so just introduce yourself to the viewers and listeners. 
Yeah, well I grew up, I'm born and raised in a small town in Washington called Washington, Virginia. It was the first Washington of them all. George Washington surveyed it as a 17-year-old young man. We're nestled in the foothills of the beautiful Blue Ridge Mountains about 70 miles southwest of Washington, D.C. It's a very rural area, sparsely populated.I grew up here, I'm eighth generation to live here in my family.My grandchildren will be the 10th generation.My wife, Anne and I own and operate a family medicine clinic here about a mile from the house, Miller Family Health and Wellness, where we provide, you know, primary care, preventive medicine, small surgical procedures, pretty much everything that most people need in a small rural community.I also grew up on a cattle farm, third-generation cattle farmer and rancher here in Washington, Virginia.We have a purebred Angus operation where we sell purebred Angus seed stock.We also market some beef directly to consumers in the form of freezer beef.Well, yes, I want to ask you a little bit about that commercial cattle industry.And I think the headwinds at the UFAS.Were president of the US Cattlemen's Association and as a Brit, I've no idea what that means.So I wonder, could you just explain to me what that is?
The United States Cattlemen's Association is a grassroots organization where we represent, the production side of the cattle industry. You have the production side and then you have the packing and the retail side, and we represent the producers who basically have been taken advantage of by big, large, multinational corporations.So we're a nationwide organization of cattle producers here in the United States, and we basically try to lobby and shape, policy here in the United States that's beneficial to cattle ranchers, so cattle ranchers can stay in business and we can continue to feed our country and the world.Unfortunately for most of my lifetime, there's been sort of a war on cattle ranchers.The big multinational corporations, there are only four of them that control about 85% of our slaughter cattle market worldwide.And they basically have a monopoly and they exert their power and their influence in Washington, DC and worldwide.And there's no real free true market for cattle ranchers to make a good fair living.And consequently, we have lost thousands of cattle ranchers over the last several decades and eventually it's going to reach critical mass and it's gonna seriously harm our country. 
What has it traditionally been like? Has it traditionally been small holdings of kind of small farms? What kind of has it been like up until I guess the advent of the large multinational companies?Yeah, I think we had a secretary of agriculture back during the, maybe it was the Reagan administration, I'm not sure, that said get big or get out.And that's really been harmful for cattle farmers and ranchers and small family farms.And small family farms are actually going by the wayside.And, you got to get bigger and bigger and bigger. And even the guys in the production side that are getting bigger and bigger and bigger are having a hard time because our production costs are going through the roof, especially with the inflation that we've seen in the last several years.And what the retailer or what the packers are paying us for our end product, really hasn't been worthwhile. Now, recently there's been, and with environmental disasters and the cattle market being so bad for so long, our nation's cow herd is smaller than any time since 1965.So our cattle prices recently in the past six months have come up dramatically, but those things are very cyclical.We'll probably enjoy a good cattle market for a couple of years and then it'll be back to famine, you know, just barely scraping by and not being able to put any money back into your production and your program and not really make a living.As you know, I'm a medical doctor and I loved cattle ranching my whole life and my dad and I had a special bond because he loved it too.And he saw the handwriting on the wall when I was a kid and he directed me away from just being a solo, only cattle ranching is my only means of income and raising family, and thank goodness that he did.And so I have to be a medical doctor in order to be able to, I'm not going to say to afford to ranch, but possibly to afford to ranch because I couldn't, you know, we make a little bit of money on the ranch, but not near as much money as we could if we did other things with that time, and it's really not economically feasible.And consequently, a bunch of young people in our country are not going into it.And we're losing cattle ranchers, you know, it's at epidemic proportions.And eventually, if we lose enough cattle ranchers, we're not going to be able to feed this nation and we will be dependent on foreign countries for our food sources and we know how that would turn out. I mean being dependent on anybody for something that's so critical as your food is a disastrous plan.It's curious when you say you need to be a doctor to actually afford to look after cattle.I mean, is it possible for someone to run a, I don't know what you call it, a cattle ranch?Is it possible for someone to run that and actually make money?Or are you saying it's probably getting to the point where that's not possible anymore?Well, I don't know what the statistics are, but they're getting worse and worse as far as the number of family farms and ranchers that require or depend on outside income from some family members.Back in the 50s and 60s, the wife didn't work on the ranch, I mean, she didn't work in town.Now a lot of those families are requiring outside income and it's becoming more and more.Some of my best friends get all of their income solely through ranching and you can see how they are struggling and they're finding other revenue streams to support themselves and their family in addition to what they can make on the cattle ranch.
Tell me, when you talk about multinational companies, those large companies, what part of the kind of chain is that in? Is that the beginning? Is that the process?Is that packing? Is that the supermarket? 
That's the packing and processing industry.There's basically a bottleneck.What you have is you have seed stock producers like me who produce the seed stock to go out to the commercial cattle ranchers to provide the genetics for their herds. The commercial cattle ranches are usually a little bit bigger. They have more cattle, but I sell them bulls to breed their cows to hopefully produce superior livestock, to more efficiently produce good healthy tasting beef. Those people then sell to some middlemen usually, sometimes they take it all the way through to the fattening, but essentially those, most people that are in the commercial cattle business raise their calves till they're about seven or eight months of age, maybe a little bit longer, and then they sell them.From there, they'll usually go on to grass to people that purchase cattle to grow them out and put more of a frame on them so they can put feed on, I mean weight on them in a very economic fashion when they go to the feedlot, once they're eight, nine hundred pounds, they go to the into the feedlots where they're fed for the most part a very high concentrate ration.And when those animals are what we call finished, where they're adequately fattened at an adequate size and weight, then they're sold to the packers and there are basically four multinational packing companies, two of them owned in Brazil, one of them I think is heavily invested in China and one of them is American. And they basically there's, they have contracts and they contract with these big corporate feeders. They don't let, there's no sort of free market. These contracts, are secret and the independent cattle feeders are, they try to squeeze them out.Right now, depending on what part of the country you are, in this country there's feeding areas like in the south in Texas and Kansas, less than 10% of the fed cattle are sold on an open market, so you really don't know what the true value of those animals is. And in other areas like Iowa and Nebraska, there are a few more independent farmer feeders, and it's probably 25 or 30% at most but there are weeks where those these farmers and ranchers can't even get bids on their cattle and it's just a purely a monopolistic practice and our government, our Department of Justice, and our Congress, and The Agricultural Department has allowed this to happen through mergers and acquisitions and through their regulations.The regulations are just so much more beneficial to these big multinational packers because these big multinational packers have a lot of money and they have more money to put into lobbying and influence.And it's really a sad situation for both the American consumer and the American farmer and rancher.And as our cattle market goes, so goes the Canadian cattle market, the Australian cattle market. We pretty much set the cattle market here. So it hurts basically all other countries as well.And those farmers and ranchers in those other countries, because, you know, they look at what we're getting.And to be quite honest, the packers try to use those foreign cattle in our country to control the market, and try to get them at a cheaper price.And unfortunately, our labelling laws allow it to happen where they can deceive the consumers.They can label foreign product as product of the USA.And we don't really have any labelling laws that are truthful right now, as far as, you know, grass fed is not even truthful. Product of the USA is not even truthful.They're just ways that people can get around and they change definitions.And the average consumer doesn't know where their food is coming from.And that's becoming more and more important because everybody is really concerned about their food supply and the safety and the health benefits of their food supply, and what those animals have been treated with, what they've been fed.And this country has the highest safety standards in the world.And they're not allowing the American cattle ranchers to compete on a global scale if we can't identify our product.And if we're able to identify our product, it's gonna help the cattle market in general and help farmers and ranchers all over the country, all over the world, I mean.
You talked about the pressures from governments. and you look at the Democrat Party, they seem to support anything but homegrown products.We have the same issue in the UK, where it's a destruction of industry and products in the UK.Tell us about the political pressures that there are on the industry and why is there not more political support?
Because there are not many farmers and ranchers in this world, and they don't, they're not a lot of votes.There's not a lot of money behind it, and there's not a lot of votes.And that's why it doesn't get support from either party in our country across the board.We had a bill in Congress last year that would have created a mandatory minimum number of, percentage of cattle that each packer had to procure there on the open market each week.In other words, a mandatory minimum. Our open market has been dwindling year after year after year.And we were trying to put a stop on that and require these packers who are exerting their monopolistic powers to require to, you know, bid on cattle on the open market.And these cattle that are on the open market are superior in their quality.And we couldn't even get, we had, I think there were 27 sponsors in the Senate, bipartisan, and we couldn't get the head of the Senate to even bring it to a vote.And, it's not one party or the other, they're both equally responsible for this.I mean, there are some people in the Republican Party in powerful positions that are beholden to the big corporations, Tyson Foods and Walmart, because they're big factories in their states. And they're very powerful and they exert all the influence that they can. And in order to get this turned around, we have to create a partnership with the American consumer and basically the worldwide consumer, and they have to become more aware of what's going on.They have to realize that there's a lot of deceit in the labelling process in food, not only in this country, but worldwide. And more and more people, this this past spring there was the big hot button issue was mRNA vaccines in livestock. And consumers are really paying attention to that. And they want to make sure that they're they know what they're eating. And the United States Cattlemen's Association is all about truthful labelling.And we know we are in partnership with consumers and we want to produce the safest, best product, available. But in order to do that, we have to be able to differentiate it. And we can't do it so far.Yeah, we are having the same conversation about mRNA in the cattle industry here in the UK. Can I ask you about the last three years COVID, I think I read something on the US California Association discussing the impact of COVID and the damage to the industry. What kind of have the last three years been like?
Well, when COVID-19 hit, it seemed like the World Health Organization and the American,I guess, agencies, the CDC, NIH, it seemed like they were trying to scare people, and people were really scared about this disease. And as we know, it's turned out a lot of what they put out was not true. But there was, the concentration at our industry, we have four packing companies and they have very large packing plants where they slaughter, a couple, you know, tens of thousands of animals each day. And if one of those packing plants, isn't operational, then it creates a food shortage in the grocery store where we don't  have a food shortage on the supply end.We have a bottleneck in the packing plants. And it just so happened that some of the workers got sick, and they closed down these packing plants.And so then those corporations use that basically to their advantage. They made money and the poor farmer and rancher were getting nothing for their animals because they were told that they didn't have the capacity to kill these finished market animals.And they told the retailers they didn't have any beef, and then you saw beef skyrocket in the grocery store, and there were some shortages on the shelves.And they were making upwards of $1,000 an animal, and they slaughter hundreds of thousands of animals each week.And they were making upwards of $1,000, we hear, as high as $2,000 per animal.And it was just basically price gouging on two ends.It was price gouging on the production side and price gouging the consumer.And that just showed how fragile our system was when you put all your eggs in a couple of baskets, and a couple of those baskets go bad.And our food supply chain was not very resilient. So there has been a move on in this country, and I think worldwide, to develop a more regionalized, food system and spread the risk out amongst many many smaller regional packing plants and unfortunately it had gotten so that these large mega corporations with economy of scale and all the rules and regulations these packers have, these packing plants independent packing plants have to go under that it just wasn't it's just not feasible and it's a direct result of all of our policies in this country.
There's something else specifically I want to ask you, and that is, I guess, the push to net zero, and we're seeing across Europe, certainly in the Netherlands, a push to restrict farming because farming is bad and meat is certainly very bad.Many farms in the Netherlands have been forced to close, and as somebody who works in the food industry. I mean, are you having some of the same pressures in the US against farming, against the whole carbon issue and being told that farming and meat are bad?Well, you know, we hear it. We hear a lot of people beating the drums that meat is harmful, not only for your health, but harmful for the environment. And some people that are beating that drum actually believe it, but the main players, I think, in the reality, you have to look and see where their money is invested and how they're going to make their wealth.And I think, again, it's a fear tactic.I'm 62 years of age, and I remember back in high school hearing that we were going to have an ice age and then followed that it was going to be Los Angeles was going to be be underwater in 10 years.And it started out as global cooling, and then it was global warming.And since our globe hasn't warmed appreciably in the last 50 years, now it's just climate change.And the climate, as you know, is always changing. But it always has changed, and it always will change.Anybody that thinks carbon dioxide is an environmental pollutant is, I think, just nuts.Carbon dioxide is part of our environment. That's what plants use to produce oxygen and photosynthesis.So it's a necessary part of our atmosphere, and it's a very small part of our atmosphere.So I think it's nuts. I think it's the push is mainly through, you know, wealth and power to for people to gain more wealth and power.You look at Bill Gates as a big climate alarmist.And if he if he thought that we actually were going to melt all the polar ice caps and the sea level is going to rise, why would he have so many houses on the coast near sea level?If he really believed in that, why would he own three private jets and 30 mega mansions?You know, he's been one of the one of the main pushers of beef being bad for the environment.Well, he's heavily invested in cell cultured protein and fake meat and is buying up a lot of farmland around around the country.So, you know, you have to look at the guys that are pushing this.Where do they stand to benefit?And unfortunately, that's that's where it's coming from.And I hope and pray that the world wakes up and sees this for exactly what it is, because it's nothing more than that.My cattle are not ruining the environment. All you have to do is go out and look.We live in one of the most ecologically stable parts of the world. And these people that are saying cattle are so bad, they live in their mega mansions, and they have their drivers, and they have their private jets, and they're going all over the world beating the drum. And I think it's just hogwash.
100% and hypocrisy is in full swing. My big concern is with governments pushing it.Before you've had pressure groups or organisations, it seems as though certainly the government in the Netherlands, in Holland are 100% behind this and I've heard reports of 4,000 farms being forcibly taken over by the government and just left to fallow.That seems to be spreading certainly across Europe.And part of it is the whole climate change alarmism, but part of it seems to be just destroying industries in the countries and I guess making us more reliant, but possibly that hasn't yet swept or hit over there in the US, even though your politics is just as crazy as ours in Europe.
Yeah. Yeah. I look at that in the Netherlands and I'm thinking, what are they trying to do?They're trying to destroy their ability to produce food. For what reason? I mean humanity has to has to eat. And there are certain things that humanity needs, in order to exist. And I think it's more of a power. It's more of a power grab.We can control these people if we can control their food, we can control their monetary supply, we can control their ability to move and travel.It's just something to, it's tyranny is what it is, and they want to whip the population into being a subservient, non-free people.And I don't think it's going to, you know, change is very slow, but I don't think it's going to be something that they will be able to sustain.I mean, I guess, how are they going to feed their nation? Are they going to make all their food in a laboratory? I don't think so.Are they going to be dependent upon foreign countries for their food?That doesn't seem like a very good plan to me. So I really don't get it, but I think it's a power grab.Yeah, I would propose that anyone like that they can eat grass and the rest of us can enjoy meat and we'll see how that works, 
Absolutely. Well, you know we've heard, I've heard since, I went to medical school, graduated from medical school in 1986 and all through medical school we heard about the cholesterol theory of heart disease and beef and fat is bad for you and it was all based on some from faulty scientific cherry-picked epidemiologic studies.And what we've seen happen more in this country, but when we were in Europe, we saw a lot of the result of it in Europe too.Like 10 years ago, it wasn't as prevalent, but big food, the big food corporations are pretty evil, and they will put out anything they can make a profit and try to make people think it's healthy.And since we've been traveling down this path our country, and I think many countries have become much unhealthier.We have so much more chronic disease, so much more obesity, so much more cancer, so much more diabetes, heart disease, autoimmune disorders.And it's a direct result of what people are eating, just processed crap.And they've got people, they label food like it's low fat.This is low fat. Well, I submit our body needs fat. Our brain needs fat in order to survive and thrive.And they're making people very, very unhealthy and they're addicting people to certain foods all along the way.
Well, that's something I've certainly been looking into in the last few months, the whole issue of processed foods and ultra processed.And the unknown effect on many of us. And I know you're a big proponent of the carnivore diet.And I'm wondering, is that just PR, publicity, or are you yourself finding that healthy? Tell us about that.I truly 110% believe in a low carbohydrate, high protein, high fat diet with time limited food intake and intermittent fasting.Carnivore diet is just the, it's that, just to an extreme.And I'm not saying everybody needs to be a carnivore, but with so much chronic disease that we have here and that I see on a daily basis, most of my patients are tremendously overweight.Many of them have diabetes or pre-diabetes, they're completely inflamed.A lot of them have autoimmune disorders, a lot of them have anxiety and depression.And their food is deficient in essential nutrients and fat.And the carnivore diet is the best way to counteract what we're seeing causing chronic disease in this country, and I think worldwide. It's really simple.You don't have to really think, all you have to do is, is your thought process is, is it did this grow from the soil?Or is this an animal or a living being product? And if it's an animal or living being product, and it's not been tainted, or, you know, unhealthy chemicals or additives added to it, it's carnivore.And I have seen a tremendous improvement. I have so many type two diabetics.And the ones that really will stick to a carnivore diet, they can get off all medications and they become so much healthier and their life becomes so much better.It's amazing, we can cure autoimmune disorders with this, cure diabetes, hypertension, depression, anxiety.The list just goes on and on and on and of what I have seen in my clinical practice, when I heard about the carnivore diet initially, my son's in medical school, and he was following a guy named Sean Baker, and Sean was a big proponent or still is a big proponent of the carnivore diet.And my son mentioned it to me and I go, that's hogwash.But then I actually got to know Sean and I started, have created a great friendship with him.And he was stating a lot of really good scientific studies and there was a lot of science and proof behind it.And so then I started following it for myself because at one point in time, I was probably 10, 15 pounds overweight and I was on blood pressure medicine.I didn't feel good. I started feeling old. I was feeling stiff and sore and not looking forward to aging.And I, myself, my wife and I started on a carnivore diet after meeting with Sean one fall.We started on in January, that following January.And I leaned out tremendously.My blood pressure plummeted into the normal range and actually got really low on antihypertensive medicine.So I stopped my blood pressure medicine and my indicators of chronic inflammation improved dramatically. Triglycerides and HDL cholesterol have never been so good as they are on a carnivore diet and improve my sleep.And the other thing, as you may or may not know, I'm a CrossFit athlete, and I used to do it competitively.But when I'm on a regular, what we call a standard American diet, I just eat pretty much what everybody else eats.My body hurts, and my hands hurt, and I get arthritic symptoms in my hands.And I really struggle just basically throwing around and carrying the weight when that happens.And, you know, when I go on a strict carnivore diet, all those symptoms go away and I don't even think about it.So I couldn't believe any more in the carnivore diet than what I do, what I already do, just from what I've seen personally and in my practice.And then the stories, the more and more stories of people that we know that have changed their lives with the carnivore diet, it's completely counterintuitive to what we've been hearing for the last 30 years, but what we've been hearing for the last 30 years hasn't worked, obviously.Exactly. It's intriguing that you bring that medical understanding that it's not just this tastes good, but you see the effects of unhealthy eating in patients.And then that's made you question, but I'm assuming that there is no push towards healthy eating as such, because there is always a drug to correct.And I know we sometimes look at the U.S. and think, well, you guys have got a drug for everything.But I guess that's the way that the industry stops any push towards healthy eating.
Well, it's almost like the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry are in cahoots with one another because the food industry is one of the many things that's making our population in the world become unhealthy and need medications. And then the pharmaceutical industry, unfortunately, they have exerted so much influence in our agencies and in the media and on celebrities, and they pay these people to push the narrative.If the pharmaceutical industry doesn't come up with it, it can't work.You know, cheap repurposed medications or natural remedies are felt to be bad alternative types of medicine, not backed by sound science.And we know, I mean, that's one of the things that the COVID pandemic opened up my eyes to is all the things that are out there that we can do for our patients and encourage our patients to do that will get them off medications.They don't need medicine for everything. And it's really sad.I tell my patients when I meet with them, I spend a lot of time when I meet with them for the first time trying to explain the science and the rationale behind what I'm recommending them to do, and one of which is a carnivore diet with time-limited food intake and sunlight and vitamin D is I'm trying to get myself out of a job.I mean, if I get them healthy, they won't need to come see me and they won't need medication.And they appreciate that. I mean, a lot of them come to see me and they say they heard that I was a straight shooter and would tell them what they needed to hear, not what they wanted to hear, and not push of medicine on them and not push this therapy on them if we could do it more natural ways.Just to finish off, could I ask you what advice you would give me? You understand the cattle industry for generations. I kind of feel that you would be probably encouraging someone who's wanting to get into that and maybe steer them elsewhere, but what changes do you think would need to be made to actually make it a better industry for people to actually get involved and take it as a career.
Well, on the national level, they need to break up the monopolies.I don't think there's going to be the political will to do that right now, but maybe if the people get behind it, that would solve a lot of problems.That would give us a true free market where you could make a fair living raising food in a healthy manner.In the short term, and the United States Cattlemen's Association will push to fight against rules and regulations and improve the laws and everything as far as that for our industry.But in the short term, and actually maybe in the long term, we need a more regionalization of our food supply chain and we need to make consumers and farmers and ranchers partners.And I encourage young people that are getting into the livestock industry, they want to raise cattle and raise food, to develop a direct to consumer marketing approach, whether be online or just through local. I mean, we have a limited number. We probably sell 30, 35, maybe 40 animals a year direct to consumers. And it's really easy. You don't have to advertise at all. They just, you know, they hear about it, they taste it, they taste how much better the product is when it comes directly from the farmer and rancher and they're not getting the leftovers. They're not getting the 10 year old cow that's been at the end of her lifespan or the 10-year-old bull is after the end of her lifespan, and they're getting a better product and they really love it, and they also develop a friendship with you, and you basically try to educate them and let them know the practice that you are performing in order to raise these animals in a healthy and wholesome and environmentally sound method. I'm definitely an environmentalist, I don't want to destroy our environment, especially right where I live or anywhere really. So we're very environmentally conscious on what we put on the land and our practices, but we're also very conscious on how we we care for and and treat our livestock and people appreciate it. They come out and they see the animals and they see what you do and it just makes them want to buy their their food directly from the source.When you buy food in a grocery store, you really don't know what's happened to that food before it gets to the grocery store, how it's been treated, both plant food and livestock.So buying food directly from a farmer and rancher, I think would be the most superior way.And it also bypasses all these multinational corporations and the consumer can get it for a better price and the farmer is getting a better price for his product too.So direct to market consumption model is what I'm recommending and trying to encourage young people to do when they get into the farming ranching business.
Okay, Brooke, I appreciate your time. Thank you so much for coming along and explaining your industry.
Well, thank you for having me, Peter. It's always good to see you and talk to you and I hope to see you when you're in the States.

Richard Poe - The Shadow Party: How George Soros Seized Control of the Democratic Party

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George Soros is one, if not the most, dangerous person in the world.
This may sound like an overstatement but our guest today will explain why. Richard Poe is a bestselling author and respected journalist, sixteen years ago he co wrote the most comprehensive analysis of the web that Soros has spun worldwide. Detailing the connections, control, influence and how the monster we see today was created by the British and nurtured by the Americans. This will shine a light on one of the most secretive and powerful individuals and show how ignorance has allowed his ascent.
Richard Poe is a New York Times-bestselling author and award-winning journalist. He has written widely on business, science, history and politics.His books include The Shadow Party, co-written with David Horowitz; The Einstein Factor, co-written with Win Wenger; Perfect Fear: Four Tales of Terror; Black Spark, White Fire; the WAVE series of network marketing books; and many more.Richard was formerly editor of David Horowitz’s FrontPageMag, contributing editor of NewsMax, senior editor of SUCCESS magazine, reporter for the New York Post, and managing editor of the East Village Eye.
Connect with Richard...WEBSITE:     https://www.richardpoe.com/TWITTER:     https://twitter.com/RealRichardPoe?s=20SUBSTACK:  https://richardpoe.substack.com/
'The Shadow Party: How George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Sixties Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party'Available in print, e-book or audio book from Amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/Shadow-Party-Hillary-Radicals-Democratic/dp/1595551034/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=1-1
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(Hearts of Oak)Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up with Richard Poe.He has co-written a book with David Horowitz.This was back in 2006, but still as relevant today. And that is The Shadow Party, how George Soros, Hilary Clinton and 60s radicals seize control of the Democratic Party.George Soros is a huge figure, and this is the first book that actually delves into his life and how he's been involved in color revolutions, coups all around the world.His life story, moving to the States, his involvement with the left.So much packed in. I know you will really enjoy listening to Richard unpacking delve deep into the life of George Soros.Thankful to have you with us today. Thank you so much for your time.
(Richard Poe)
Thank you, Peter. Great to be here.
Good to be. And we are going to discuss your book. We're also going to discuss some articles, but just for the viewers.Richard Poe's probably 10, 11 different books and here are a number of them that we are going to look, Hilary's Secret War, but we're actually going to look today at The Shadow Party, How George Soros, Hilary Clinton and 60s Radicals Seized Control of the Democratic Party and you wrote that along with David Horowitz, who we've had the privilege of having on before.And now you're a bestselling author, a journalist, investigative reporter, and people can find at Richard Poe, @RealRichardPoe on Twitter and RichardPoe.com.And of course, Substack is there as well @RichardPoe.And I, Richard, I've actually found your your kayak video strangely entertaining, off-topic. I've enjoyed watching them.
You must be a kayaker yourself. 
No, I'm not. No, I am not. I just, I was intrigued. It was a whole, something completely different. So I enjoyed watching your documentary on it.Well, there is something fascinating about the kayak role. And it took me many years before I finally committed myself to learning it after, but I always used to just be mesmerized to watch people do that, whether on videos or in person, there's something magical about it.And once you actually learn it, it doesn't feel any less magical.It's, you know, of course, it's just like anything else. You learn the moves, you learn how to do it, But there's magic in it. It's something that just feels so wonderful. And I just had to make a film.A short film, five minutes, just trying to convey to people as best I could what this feels like, what it's really like to capsize in a small boat where you're jammed into a cockpit, you know, by your waist, hang upside down in the water, and then turn yourself right side up. You know it's, in a small way, I guess it's like jumping out of a plane with no parachute, and then somehow lifting yourself back onto the plane. Maybe that's too dramatic, but, that's how I like to think of it. 
It's fun watching, of course, it's on your website, people can people can see it and there I mean just in The Shadow Party going to source there's so much to cover we'll we'll not do one of your marathon sessions that you do with Noor Bin Laden, those are all available for the viewers to watch you've just started doing them in video I know and that's all on substack but probably the book it's been out 2006 it came out. What led you to write it because now this is part of the conversation, the whole thing with, money, with control, with Soros. What led you to actually putting pen to paper on the book?Well I had researched Soros for many years. I first wrote about him in 1993, in my very first published book. It was called How to Profit from the Coming Russian Boom, and I had some expertise in Russia and I had been there as a business writer for Success Magazine. I had gone there a number of times in the early 90s to, cover the fall of communism and Soros was there, you know, he was part of the party, a big part of it. And at that time, I wrote very positively about Mr. Soros because I felt he was one of us, whoever us are, you know, us Westerners who are... And at that time, I believed very much in the Cold War narrative that we of the West represented freedom and democracy and all those good things.And we had to overcome communism. Communism was the great dragon.And, so Soros, I felt, was just one more person helping us to dismantle the Soviet Empire and teach the Russians how to become capitalists, quote-unquote, and become like us.It all seemed like a very noble enterprise at the time, and I wrote very positively about Mr. Soros and everything he was doing in Russia.I wasn't unaware that there was a dark side to Soros and some of his activities, but well, let's just say I wrote positively about him. And my book was quite influential.It was praised by the London Financial Times as being the first book to explain the privatization process in Russia, which was done by means of a voucher system.The government issued vouchers to every Russian citizen, every Soviet citizen, which were worth 10,000, how did it work?Each one was worth, you could be traded for 10,000 rubles, I think, 10,000 rubles worth of shares in any of the state-owned companies that were being auctioned off.And what happened, of course, is that this happened after my book came out.No one had a clue that this was going to happen. Soros and his cronies, they convinced Yeltsin to do shock therapy, as they call it, to basically de-control all prices and currency values, all at the same time, which led to immediate hyperinflation at catastrophic levels.And so these vouchers became worthless overnight and all the Westerners bought them up, and used them to acquire eventually the crown jewels of the Soviet economy.So this was one of the things that actually led, this is back in the early 90s, but it led to a lot of the ill feeling, between the Russians and the West, which we're now dealing with today, because at that time, the Russians were really....There was an innocence about them.They were really so grateful in many ways. They wanted this kind of help from Westerners, and especially Americans.They trusted us in a very special way, in a way that they didn't trust other Westerners.And unfortunately, thanks to Mr. Soros and Jeffrey Sachs, who was working with him on this project, and a lot of people at Harvard University, almost instantaneously with the image of America as friend and savior was destroyed and we were perceived as a gang of thieves who were coming to strip the country of all its wealth. And I don't think that perception has ever left. So I was aware of that as it was happening, but as I said, that happened after my book was published.So my book was totally positive about Soros, but...Please tell me if I'm going to too many details about this, but to me it's a very interesting story because, see, Soros himself had declined my request to be interviewed for the book, but he did kindly allow me to interview some of his people, and I had some expectation that maybe, you know, Soros would like the book, it might lead to some further talks, interviews, whatever. But instead what happened is, I think it was only two years after my book came out, a very similar book came out. And this happens a lot in publishing, by the way. If they, the aesthetic of a certain book, they actually replace it with a similar book. So my book was called How to Profit from the Coming Russian Boom. This other book comes out a couple years later, I think it was from the Free Press.And it was called The Coming Russian Boom. They basically took a fragment of my title and made this other book, which also looked kind of similar, the cover design. And on the back of this replacement book, this book that was meant to replace mine, was a big plug by George Soros himself saying, if you want to read a book by real Russia insiders who really know what's going on, read this book. And just to make it clear, a known Soros operative wrote a review saying, Richard Poe's book is now totally out of date. You should now read this new book, which has an almost identical title to his and a similar colour design and which was published only two years later.So you ask, how did I first come across Mr. Soros? Well, it was that. Was I particularly upset? No, not really. I was on to other things, you know, writing other books. I just thought, Well, that's a little curious.But I think the reason they did that, I think the reason my book was disliked is one for the very reason that the Financial Times had said, because I had given such a clear, explanation of the privatization process and how it worked, and then shortly thereafter Soros and his cronies had completely corrupted the privatization process.So I think that was one thing that I did bad. And another thing I did, was I told the truth about the corruption in the Moscow city government, and I was clued in by certain people in Russia that Mayor Lushkov, who I had accused by name, was very disturbed with me, and that sales of my book in Moscow, particularly in the crucial airport bookstores where foreigners would be likely to buy it had been banned.And so, this was my very first book. You know, it got a star for excellence from Publishers Weekly, got reviewed in all the right places but obviously Mr. Soros didn't like it.He endorsed this competing book which appears to have been manufactured for the express purpose of outdating mine.So anyway, I don't mean to go into all that except just to emphasize that me and Mr. Soros go back quite a ways.I first ran across him, one might say ran afoul of him in Russia in the early 90s, as did so many people.And so then much later in 2004, I got a phone call from Chris Ruddy, the founder and editor of Newsmax.I was one of the original columnists at Newsmax. It was started in 1998, I believe, and I started in 1999.And Chris called me up. He says, look, we wanna do a big expose about George Soros and put it on the cover of Newsmax magazine. Would you like to write it?I said, sure, let's do it.And so, that led to my next encounter indirectly with Soros. I never actually have met him or communicated with him in person or directly, but it seemed every time I ran across him, something ill-omened occurred, you know, it was strange.So, I wrote this article, which seemed a perfectly legitimate exercise of free speech in the home of the free and the brave, the United States of America as working journalists.Why shouldn't we write an expose of George Soros? After all, he was coming out very publicly, speaking out on political matters, saying he was going to donate $25 million to oust President Bush from office.And that's why Newsmax wanted to write about him, all seemingly fair game, you know, and the type of thing one would normally write about.Well, so I wrote, what I wrote about was the same subject I'm writing about now, all these years later, that what Soros was actually doing, and what he was boasting that he was going to do was to go outside of the normal bounds of political electioneering in the United States.And he said, what I have done in other countries, I am now going to do in the United States.And he said, actually, he was going to do a regime change, quote unquote, to remove President Bush.So I was familiar at that point in large part because I had some experience in Russia, in Eastern Europe.I knew what a colour revolution was. Most people didn't at that time.I knew that Soros was involved in these things, and I knew he had helped overthrow a number of governments, not only in Eastern Europe, but all over the world.People think he just does this in Eastern Europe. He's done it in Africa, Asia, everywhere.But, um...When I heard Soros saying these things, I knew exactly what he meant, and I felt I need to explain this to the American people.And so my article was called George Soros' Coup, and it basically explained this guy does color revolutions, and he seems to be implying that he's going to do that here in the United States.Well, it didn't quite happen in the election of 2004, although there were some strange goings-ons from the Democrat side.But for our story right now, what is interesting is that my Newsmax cover story was a big success.I was immediately called to appear on The O'Reilly Factor with Bill O'Reilly.And I did a seven-minute spot on The O'Reilly Factor. The very next day, a completely new outfit, called Media Matters for America, which George Soros had helped to found. It was it was something he and Hilary Clinton and John Podesta and a few others had been totally involved with from the ground floor. So, they attacked me, in a way I'd never been attacked. I mean, there must have been three, four different articles all all about little old me, and basically saying that I was a liar, that I got all my facts wrong.You know, saying exactly the things that if they were true, would completely disqualify me to work as a journalist ever again.They were in fact defamatory. And...
Well, can I just step back a little bit just to continue now, but colour revolution, it's something you have mentioned as a phrase, and I know there's a great article, we might get into the British aspect of it, but How the British Invented Colour Revolutions, you wrote back May 2021, and that's available on your substack, but that term colour revolutions probably will not mean anything to many people. It's still a term which isn't widespreadly used. Do you want to just touch on that to let the viewers know what you mean by a color revolution?Sure. A color revolution is basically, it's just a term that's used to describe what is basically a fake revolution. When foreign intelligence services go into a country and create a fake revolution which is meant to look like a people's uprising, a spontaneous uprising of the people, but is actually a foreign-sponsored coup, hiding behind the facade of a people's uprising. And just to give an example, not to get into my recent articles, but I recently discovered and have argued in some recent articles that the French Revolution and the Russian Revolutions were, in fact, color revolutions.It is my contention that the British Secret Services were behind both.But that's just to give an example where a revolution that most of us until now, until recently, have assumed, entailed some kind of spontaneous uprising by an aggrieved population.Yes, to some extent they were, but this, whatever discontent among the people may have manipulated by foreign intelligence services, making it a fake revolution, making it a foreign-sponsored coup, and this type of revolution has been nicknamed in recent years a color revolution.It's called that because often these revolutions use team colours to identify themselves.That for example, there was a so-called orange revolution in the Ukraine in 2004.And if you look at pictures on Google, you'll see crowds in a sea of orange banners, orange everything.And interestingly, even going back to the French and the Russian revolutions, They too had their team colors, team symbols.The French, of course, had their tricolour badges and their so-called Phrygian caps that they wore.Which were red with the tricolour badge on it.In the Bolshevik Revolution, of course, the colour was red again, red for socialism, red for communism.And they also wore a distinctive cap called the Scythian cap, which looks strangely like the Phrygian cap that the French had worn, but whatever.So even in such details as the use of these kind of evocative coloured symbols, and they weren't always colours.Sometimes they were flowers or other kinds of symbols.But they're called colour revolutions for that reason, because somebody decided to name them that.Originally, the first one that came to wide public attention was the so-called Velvet Revolution in Czechoslovakia, during the fall of communism.And that too was, George Soros was heavily involved in that, as were many Western governments and intelligence agencies and so forth.And that was called the Velvet Revolution. It still is to this day.And that term Velvet Revolution actually caught on in Eastern Europe for quite a bit.Often these revolutions were called Velvet Revolutions, but somewhere along the line, they started calling them Colour Revolutions and that stuck.So I now use the term, it's not my favourite term, but that's what it means.A fake revolution generally orchestrated by a foreign intelligence agency or agencies, to masquerade as a popular uprising. And so George Soros has been involved in these, for many decades, funding them, being a public apologist for them, going before the press just to justify them and basically act as a propaganda voice to explain why it was necessary to do these.And the propaganda is very necessary because generally what happens in these so-called colour revolutions is that an election occurs, somebody wins, and that somebody is not the person whom the Western powers wanted to win. And so then they create an uprising saying the election was stolen, it was all fake, it doesn't match the exit polls, so let's bring all the people out into the street, often with quite a good deal of real violence. These things are often called bloodless coups, but I think they are rarely bloodless, and often they involve pretty significant violence.Certainly in 2000, when they overthrew Milosevic in Yugoslavia, there was very significant violence.They set fire to the parliament building.They had armed paramilitaries blocking all the roads around Belgrade, armed with military weapons.And... So, although they're considered bloodless, stereotypically, they're usually not.Any more than the Russian or French revolutions were. So, that's what it is. It seems like an exotic idea, but it's really not. Governments have been doing this for ages, but the British, in particular, I've learned in the last few years, have been doing this for centuries and really excel at it. It's often assumed that Americans are the ones who invented this and who are the best at doing it, but it's not true. Whatever we know, we learned from the Brits. 
Let's go on Soros, because Soros, he obviously ended up in London as a refugee, then went to LSE, London School of Economics, went to the U.S. and it seemed to be that his desire was to to make money and return and something kind of happened on the way to the point where I think the midterms, I read somewhere what was a figure was a hundred and twenty eight million dollars I read and that made him the largest single donor in the midterms just past that election cycle and kind of something happened along the way for him just wanting to make money to actually being part of a mass funding campaign off the left? 
Well I gave my theory on this very subject in a recent article called How the British Invented George Soros and basically the answer to your question, I think, is that Soros is not his own man. It is my contention that he was recruited as an asset of the British government, the British Foreign Office, and possibly of British intelligence agencies. The fact is that he has been from the beginning involved in activities such as regime change.In foreign countries, activities which, frankly, he would not be allowed to take part in unless, he were under the supervision of some intelligence agency or another. And it's often assumed that he works with the CIA and that he is a CIA asset, and that's generally the default position that most people take. But I believe that he is a British asset, and I made what I think is a pretty strong argument for it in my article. He came to England as a refugee from a communist Hungary when he was 17 years old. He lived in England for 9 or 10 years, during which hegraduated from the London School of Economics. He started work in the city of London, learned the arbitrage trade. And during that time, it appears he was selected by a group of very powerful men who include some of the most famous names in global finance. And he was sent, I believe, to the United States to basically act as an agent for this group, this cabal, if you will, of British financiers. And one Lord William Rees-Mogg, who happens to be the father of Jacob Rees-Mogg, I have named him the man who created George Soros because he almost single-handedly created the legend or the myth of Soros as one, the greatest financial genius in the world, and two, as quote-unquote the man who broke the Bank of England.These myths, and I think both are myths, actually.Both of these myths were created and promoted by Lord Rees-Mogg and his colleagues at the Times of London. Rees-Mogg was the editor of the Times for I think 15 years and then he became a vice president of the BBC. But perhaps more importantly, he has a very unique position, or he had, he died in 2012, I call him a gateway or a bridge between worlds, because he was a man who was a very close personal friend of the British royal family, and he was also a very close personal friend of Lord Jacob Rothschild. And he was a bridge between the British aristocracy, you know, the British blue blood society, if you will, and the grubby world of City of London investment, where one had to rub shoulders with such characters as Hungarian refugees, such as George Soros.And Rees Mogg had that job. He moved between those worlds and he was a bridge between those worlds.And it's a little known fact that Soros' quantum fund,Soros actually leaked in one of his books, it was an authorized, and I think Soros actually commissioned this book, it was called George Soros, Messianic Billionaire, something like that by a guy named Kaufman. And in that book is a leak that the Queen of England, Queen Elizabeth II, was one of the investors in the Quantum Fund. Now, there's a great deal of secrecy, as you know, regarding investments by the royal family, this information is closely guarded, but quite often they leak information about where they're investing, such as famously in the mining company Rio Tinto. There were a number of quasi-official leaks about royal investments in that company. And I think they do this in order to pump the stock. I mean, I think when these leaks occur, it's because they're trying to pump the stock. And there was such a leak regarding Soros' quantum fund. So I think, and it appears to me that Soros was really an artificially created person. I don't believe at all that he was was the greatest genius in the financial world.I think he was built up into that by Lord Rees-Mogg.And for example, his greatest act of genius supposedly was breaking the Bank of England.Where in 1992, he supposedly shorted the Bank of England to such an extent that Britain was forced to devalue its currency by 20% And it was a huge catastrophe.But in reality.That story, actually, the story that Soros did it, comes from Soros himself.And it can't be proven because his operations are in the Netherlands Antilles, which is a secrecy jurisdiction, a banking haven.And there is no way to prove what he actually did in that operation.But it's come out that there were many, many players, including some of the biggest banks, biggest pension funds, biggest financial institutions in the world who were taking part in that run on the pound.And Soros was allowed by Rees-Mogg and his colleagues at the Times to take credit for it.And they actually named him in a big banner headline, the man who broke the Bank of England.But he was just one among many and by far not the largest.So, why did Rees-Mogg do this? Well, he quickly demonstrated that because Rees-Mogg's next move was then to write a series of articles explaining to the British people why Soros was a hero and that his devaluation of the pound had saved Britain from having to honour its commitment to enter the Eurozone because by devaluing the pound by 20%, Britain was no longer qualified to enter the European exchange rate mechanism and was no longer qualified to become part of the Eurozone, and that's why it still isn't to this day.And so Rees-Mogg just sang the praises of Soros, called him a hero.He said there should be a statue erected in front of the treasury of him and things like that.And other British journalists have said similar things, that he should get a knighthood and so forth and so on.So that's why I say it was all a myth. Soros himself didn't actually do it single-handedly.And moreover, far from being an attack on the British establishment, It appears to have been a British economic warfare operation which the British establishment deliberately inflicted on its own central bank for political purposes, and for which Soros was assigned to take the blame or to take the credit.So once he had done that operation, then he was very famous.He had become a celebrity overnight.The Times was doing everything it could to convince people he was a wonderful guy.And they immediately started saying what a genius and a financial prophet he was.And Rees-Mogg started saying, oh my goodness, Soros is buying gold.Let's pay attention to what he's doing because if he's buying gold, maybe we should buy gold too.So what happened was, I think this was in 1993, Soros's next assignment for this group around Rees-Mogg and Jacob Rothschild.His next assignment was to buy a large number of shares of Newmont Mining Corporation, I think was and is the largest gold mining operation in North America, and he bought them from Jacob Rothschild and Sir James Goldsmith. And so Rees-Mogg, was telling everyone from the Times, look, Soros is buying gold, but some people noticed, well, yes, but Rothschild and Goldsmith are dumping it.So what does that mean?Despite these ambiguities and puzzlements, they did succeed in hyping the price of gold.The price of gold skyrocketed.Rothschild and Goldsmith made a killing, as I think did some of their other associates in the St. James Capital Group, of which Rees-Mogg was an officer at the time.And strangely Soros himself supposedly lost money on that deal, which is very interesting because although his myth touts him as a lone wolf who only looks out for number one for himself.It really looks like he took one for the team in the great gold scam, as I call it, this gold hyping scam.It appears to have been done for the specific purpose of allowing Jacob Rothschild and Sir James Goldsmith to realize a profit on their previous purchases of Newmont Mining, which had been performing sluggishly.And so this operation appears to have been done for no other reason than to allow these two men, to make some money. And Soros took a hit on that one. He took a hit for the team.He was a team player. So based on these kinds of things, I mean it goes on and on.You could say it's kind of circumstantial evidence, but it's pretty clear that from the beginning,Soros, whatever his gifts and abilities may have been, I'm sure he's very smart, I'm sure he was selected because he was deemed to be a talented person and all that, but he certainly is not the greatest financial genius in the world, that's not how he made his money. He made his money by being adopted by this very powerful group in the city of London and serving them, being a good servant and being the public face of them and their operations. And so he went to America and the rest is history. But now today, he's presumably still alive, despite recent reports of his death, I mean, who knows anymore who's alive and dead.
So true. But he has passed it over, we're told, to one of his sons. Do you think it's the end then of that era? Do you think the damage is already done?Do you think it's being passed over just to keep the financial side and it's not the political engagement?What are your thoughts as you kind of see that transfer?Well, I don't imagine that with all the investment which I will say which the British have done in building up the Open Society Institute, I can't imagine they'll simply abandon it. Obviously, it's not going to be the same without George Soros there.Alex Soros, I presume, is nothing more than a figurehead. The man who runs the Open Society Institute is its president, and he's a guy named Lord Mark Malloch Brown, a name with which you may be familiar.Malloch Brown has a similar career trajectory to Soros. He has been involved for decades in regime change operations in foreign countries, in rigging elections in places like the Philippines, and other such targets.And then in 2015, He had just, there was a British takeover of this company called Smartmatic, and by the way, Smartmatic is going around suing people for billions of dollars, so if you want me to shut up right now, I will.I won't say another word. 
Feel free to give us your opinion, Richard.
Well, whatever else one may or may not say about Smartmatic, what they did was sell voting, a voting system. And so in 2015, the same Lord Mark Malloch Brown, who had notoriously been doing regime change operations all over the world, obviously connected with intelligence.He was a high-level UN official under Kofi Annan.I mean, this guy was obviously, you know, had some role in the intelligence community, I would say. I would say it's obvious.But now he's running the Open Society Institute, but he was given that position right after the US election in 2020. And some people said that was his reward.I'm not gonna comment about that.But his Smartmatic machines and software became very controversial. And in 2015, he was openly trying to market his Smartmatic system to the United States.In the States, it's the state governments which purchase, you know, they each has its own policy for voting systems.So he was trying to sell these to state governments and people often say, well, he never succeeded.I mean, they have a few Smartmatic machines in LA, supposedly, and not nowhere else.All I can tell you is.And this I believe is the very subject of this multi-billion dollar lawsuit that's going on, but there were people in high places who seemed to be in the know, who were close to the Trump campaign.I believe Rudy Giuliani was one, Sidney Powell, others who were basically saying that the Smartmatic software was actually being used by other companies to run other voting machines and that in fact the Smartmatic software was the evil potion that enabled them to do all these alleged alterations of the vote.So, is any of that true? Well, I don't know. I can't prove it. And, you know, anybody who opened their mouth in public and spoke of it is now being sued.You know, defamation law is a very good thing. People should be allowed to sue for defamation.I do think it's very odd to have foreign companies providing voting software to the United States of America and then being able to sue people into silence who legitimately raise questions about the integrity of those systems. I find that very strange and disturbing.But that's what's going on. You know, back in 2000, I remember very well, there was a dispute, started by, you know, Gore. Gore challenged the election result, famously, and for weeks and weeks and weeks, the world watched in astonishment and horror as the United States seemingly descended into a third world country unable to count its own votes. But no one at that time ever suggested that people should not be allowed to have an opinion or to speak?About whether they thought that Bush or Gore had won. That would have been unthinkable.Suddenly that's the case. Suddenly that's the situation we're in.But anyway, whatever that means. So this Lord Mark Malloch Brown was right in the middle of that, right in the middle of that storm, right in the eye of the storm.And let me just remind you that he was a long-time friend and collaborator of George Soros.In fact he lived next door to Soros in a house provided by Soros in upstate New York when Malloch Brown was working as a UN official.He was some sort of aid to Kofi Annan and he was basically put up by Soros.And they're very good friends. And they've collaborated on many regime change operations throughout the world, which is not the sort of thing every normal person gets involved in.But these two, for them, that's a big part of their lives and has been for decades.So strangely, you know, this same Malloch Brown ends up as the CEO of Smartmatic.And then as soon as that operation is finished, he's appointed by Soros to be the president of the Open Society Institute. And now he's disappeared from sight.And everyone's pointing to Alex Soros saying, Alex Soros is now going to take over for George Soros, and that's fine, but I've got my eye on Malloch Brown.I mean, I doubt very much whether Alex Soros is actually running it.In fact, I remember some years ago, Soros actually tried to pass on the baton to, at that time, I think all his sons, If I remember correctly, he was trying to...He was trying to turn over Soros Fund Management, which is his investment arm, to his sons, and then he all of a sudden reneged and took it back. And people said, I thought you were going to give this to your sons, why did you take it back?And Soros, here's an interesting father figure for you.He said, well, I discovered that my sons didn't have the talent to run it. And the interviewer said, what sort of talent do you mean? He said the talent for making money.Wow. 
So without going into all the Freudian or psychoanalytic aspects of it, I mean, whatever else one can say about Mr. Soros' sons, I can't imagine they're big fans of their father.
Can I just finish off on the book. In 2010, Glenn Beck did a series, Puppetmaster, that was based on the shadow party on your book. I know he was cancelled soon after on Fox.I don't know whether it was linked to that, but this was probably the first book to expose sources funding off of color revolutions which we've discussed. It's not something that people are supposed to discuss and then you produce this book by a large publisher which I always find intriguing. Maybe it would be different if you redid it today but that with Glenn Beck putting that in and bringing it with Glenn Beck's reach on Fox and then getting cancelled this obviously is something that you're not supposed to discuss.Yes, at that time, it was an extremely sensitive subject. I did not realize how sensitive it was until after I put my foot into the punji steak, so to speak.But I knew I was pushing it, and that's part of the reason why I invited my then employer, David Horowitz.I actually invited him to co-write the book with me, hoping that his name would not only help promote the book, and make people take it seriously, but I thought maybe it might afford some protection for me.And I think it did all of those things to some extent.I think it would have been much worse for me if I had tried to write the book myself, I think it was a wise thing to do.But nonetheless, I was punished quite severely by the powers that be for daring to write about that, because these color revolutions, these are intelligence operations, and especially at that time when people were not writing about it, when to write about such things and to do it with a co-author of the stature of David Horowitz, and then to appear on Glenn Beck reaching you know an audience of millions, a national audience on Fox News. If you're in the national security establishment, if you're somebody who's involved with these operations and you're trying to project a certain image of their innocence and spontaneity and then someone comes along and puts out a narrative that says, oh actually this guy George Soros is pulling the strings behind these things. Well, you know, we can see now how sensitive, a lot of these intelligence people are to anyone tampering with their narrative, you know, with all the recent hysteria over misinformation and disinformation.And so forth. Well, they didn't used to speak so publicly about it, still pretending, that they weren't involved in media, that is, the intelligence community. Now they've dropped that pretence. Back then, we still were allowed to have this illusion that we are a free press, and we can say what we want and all that, but clearly I was interfering with a very important intelligence narrative.AndI was doing so almost uniquely, and certainly the size of the platform that I had accessed was, and getting on national TV and all the rest, it was a challenge to the,It was a challenge to the national security establishment, whatever you want to call them, to the security forces, if you will. It was a direct challenge to them, and I was a small target, nobody else was writing about this. So it was a simple matter to silence me. And I want to say, you know, we talk a lot today about cancellation, and you know, people being cancelled and un-personed.And it's important to understand, you know, nowadays we see Tucker publicly thrown out of Fox News and we think that's what it means to be cancelled or Matt Taibi kicked out of The Intercept.And so we have this illusion that to be cancelled means that you're publicly punished for doing something good and thrown out and then everyone rallies to your rescue and you're even bigger and better than before. And supposedly that's what it means to be cancelled. But those are not real cancellations. The way cancellation is really done, and the way it's been done traditionally, and the way it's done usually, especially in free societies like ours, is very quietly, behind the scenes, very insidiously, so that nobody even knows it happened.And that's all I'm going to say about that. 
Well, that's perfect end. And let's again just leave the viewers the shadow party, how George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and 60s radicals seized control of the Democrat Party.It's available. I listened to it. You can get his hardback, paperback.It is a huge subject that is relevant today, if not more relevant than it was in 2006 when you wrote it. Richard, I appreciate your time. Thank you so much for coming along, sharing your thoughts on the book. Thank you. 
Thank you, Peter.

The Week According To . . . Charlotte: The Baroness

This episode we welcome a previous guest of ours and a bona fide member of UK Twitter royalty!Charlotte, The Baroness of Burnley.Charlotte has become a prominent social media voice and commentator since the beginning of the ‘scamdemic’ madness in March 2020.She prides herself on pointing out Government inconsistencies, hypocrisy and media manipulation techniques with an added dose of much-needed humour on a daily basis, Charlotte’s Twitter account is the one to follow.So who better to help us look back over the past seven days news, articles and at what has caught our attention on the web and on social media including...- Free Speech is Dead? Comedian Abi Roberts arrested for swearing outside the COVID inquiry.- France on Fire: Has multiculturalism failed?- France Riots: Is this more of a coup than what we saw with Wagner in Russia last week?- Macron under pressure. Is it time for Le Pen?- Broken Britain: Home Office must process one asylum claim every four minutes to clear backlog by January.- London Pride 2023: Just Stop Oil tosspots disrupt the parade and Laurence Fox hits the streets to a chorus of boo's and handshakes! Connect with Charlotte on....TWITTER: https://twitter.com/CharlotteEmmaUK?s=20&t=SU4Nn4u_4vcXHOk3-UP0OwGETTR: https://gettr.com/user/charlotteemmaukTELEGRAM: https://t.me/letscutthecrap
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