Hearts of Oak Podcast

Dr Peter McCullough - Vivek Ramaswamy, RFK Jr, Eco Health Alliance and the latest Myocarditis & Excess Death Data

It is an honour to have the world famous cardiologist Dr Peter McCullough join us on Hearts of Oak again. We are getting a taster of the political shockwaves that are coming down the line with presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy recently saying that the public were duped on the COVID Jab and of course we have RFK Jr actively red-pilling the left. And just in the last week we have seen another slew of data on vaccine harms and excess deaths. The truth will be told and Dr McCullough is leading the vanguard as one of the main catalysts of getting this information out to the public.Dr. Peter McCullough is an internist, cardiologist, epidemiologist, managing the cardiovascular complications of both the viral infection and the injuries developing after the COVID-19 vaccine in Dallas, TX, USA. Since the outset of the pandemic, Dr. McCullough has been a leader in the medical response to the COVID-19 disaster and has published “Pathophysiological Basis and Rationale for Early Outpatient Treatment of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) Infection,” the first synthesis of sequenced multidrug treatment of ambulatory patients infected with SARS-CoV-2 in the American Journal of Medicine and subsequently updated in Reviews in Cardiovascular Medicine.McCullough has 51 peer-reviewed publications on the infection and has commented extensively on the medical response to the COVID-19 crisis in The Hill, America Out Loud, and on FOX NEWS Channel.On November 19, 2020, Dr. McCullough testified in the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and throughout 2021 in the Texas Senate Committee on Health and Human Services, Colorado General Assembly, New Hampshire Senate, and South Carolina Senate concerning many aspects of the pandemic response.Dr. McCullough has two years of dedicated academic and clinical efforts in combating the SARS-CoV-2 virus. In doing so, he has reviewed thousands of reports, participated in scientific congresses, group discussions, press releases, and been considered among the world’s experts on COVID-19.Dr. McCullough is also known for his iconic views on the state of medical truth in America and around the globe.He pierces through the thin veil of mainstream media stories that skirt the major issues and provide no tractable basis for durable insight. McCullough aims to bring critical information and insights to the viewers and listeners in a concise and understandable format.Sit back, take notes if you are so inclined, and you will always come away better informed and more settled in your direction forward regarding personal and family medical navigation, home and health products, diagnostic tests, pharmaceuticals, medical devices, and the path forward for you and your loved ones.'The Courage to Face Covid 19' in hardback or paperback....https://couragetofacecovid.com/products/the-courage-to-face-covid-19?variant=41888573685916Follow and support Dr. McCullough at the links belowWebsite: https://www.petermcculloughmd.com/Substack: https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=emailGETTR: https://gettr.com/user/p_mcculloughmdTwitter: https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMDTruth: https://truthsocial.com/@petermcculloughmdTelegram: https://t.me/C19ExpertChannelAmerica Out Loud: https://www.americaoutloud.com/the-mccullough-report/Concerned Doctors: https://concerneddoctors.org/dr-peter-mccullough-videos/Interview recorded 11.5.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Dr. Peter McCullough.
He re-joined us, having been with us last year, and we start on the political side.I saw him at CPAC, and Vivek Ramaswamy, who is a US presidential candidate for the Republicans, said on a talk show he was duped, and the American people were duped, on COVID vaccines. He said if he was doing it again, he would do it differently. Wow. So I asked Dr. McCullough his thoughts on that, And then on his thoughts on Robert Kennedy Jr. standing for the Democrats and how that will blow up in the conversation on the left. Then we're going to just a number of reports and studies that have come out. Trida vaccine injury syndromes converges on victims and Dr. McCullough said this is what he's seen more and more regularly. This is the usual syndrome that he is seeing.And long COVID, being vaxxed. So it seems as though there's a correlation with that, talking about mRNA in breast milk and the impact this has on pregnant women and their unborn children.Then the reactivation of funding, federal funding for the Eco Health Alliance, unbelievable, but it is true. Even though they've been discredited, they've now been handed half a million dollars for funding. And then myocarditis, not recovering 80% of six months after vaccination, only 20% of young people are recovering within six months from myocarditis. And Dr. McCullough writes this in his sub stack that you need to go to and delve into this and understand this more deeply. And then we end up with excess deaths. Huge range of topics. And as always, Dr. McCullough brings his expert analysis to all of them.And hello, Hearts of Oak. It is wonderful to have back with us once again, the world-renowned cardiologist and chief scientific officer of The Wellness Company.That's Dr. Peter McCullough. Dr. McCullough, thank you for your time today.
(Dr Peter McCullough)
Thanks for having me.
Not at all. And I understand that you are one of the most published cardiologists ever in America.I think it was a thousand publications and 660 citations. So you bring a wealth of understanding and knowledge and background to this. So I appreciate your time today.
Thank you. You know, people have always asked, what do all those citations mean?You know, as a general rule in the National Library of Medicine, about 25 citations would qualify somebody to be a professor of medicine. And those who really race up in terms of their academic contributions, it just means they've looked at more data. There's been more scholarship.I focused on heart and kidney disease at interaction, made key discoveries, led key innovative groups, you know, in many areas of medicine. I've led data safety monitoring boards for important drugs, devices, strategies, presented at the European Medicine Agencies, the National Institutes of Health, New York Academy of Sciences. So I was well known in medicine before COVID-19. Now, since the pandemic, I've directed my scholarship entirely to the, pandemic response, have over 60 peer-reviewed publications in this area, including the seminal papers describing the methods of treating COVID-19 to reduce hospitalization and death.
Wow, well I want to delve into the medical side but as I saw you at, as I said before, saw you whenever I was over at CPAC and you were always in many interviews being mobbed, but, if I could ask you some, two political thoughts I had. I saw that Vivek Ramaswamy, who's a candidate for presidential candidate, standing for the Republican side.I think a few days ago, he had said, I think it was the Steve Deace show, that he well, he had had two doses of the jab, but he said that he was duped.And I thought that was quite key. And then he went on to say if he was if he were to do it again, he wouldn't have done it the same way.But that for him to say he was duped, what were your thoughts whenever you heard a presidential candidate saying something like that.You know, we've been looking for some signals from the presidential candidates regarding the vaccines. The COVID-19 vaccine debacle is one of the biggest issues on the minds of Americans, and many of the candidates have been skirting around it. They just haven't addressed where they stood.And congratulations to Steve Deace, a friend of mine who, you know, Ramaswamy is a young man.He doesn't have considerable experience. You know, many think that young candidates, they're largely angling from some experience and maybe a cabinet position. But it was nice when Deace asked him directly about it, where he said he took the two shots, he regretted it. He felt America was duped. That means to be fooled or deceived by the government narrative. Said he would have done things differently. And so he left it open. I think that's journalists like yourself and others will have to ask him, well, what would he have done differently there? A young man like him who's thin and fit, there's no theoretical benefit of the vaccines, just the real harms, the real hard data on fatal and non-fatal vaccine injury syndrome. So he probably felt like he, later on, realized he took a personal risk with his health and regrets it.Now, that's on the Republican side and I'm curious and intrigued to see how that's brought into the debate. But on the Democrat side, you have Robert Kennedy Jr.And whenever he announced he was running, I was fascinated because he would be on the opposite political side as me.But actually, during the last three years, you rub shoulders with people you wouldn't normally. And he has been extremely vocal throughout his whole life on vaccines.And what were your thoughts on that? Because I think that could just blow the whole discussion, because again, you're thinking to the Democrat side, this conversation maybe hasn't been had as fully as maybe on the right.And him stepping into that, to me that changes the whole conversation.It certainly does. Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who's the son of the late Bobby Kennedy, our former attorney general, and the nephew of John F. Kennedy, certainly comes from a storied, family history of politics. He's a lifelong Democrat. He's not anti-vaccine. I know him very well. He's simply pushing for safe and effective vaccines. He doesn't want to see any more Americans harmed by vaccine side effects. The benefits of any vaccine are not, compelling enough to have harm done to the population. And we know since 1986, all the vaccine manufacturers have liability protection. So that isn't fair when someone is paralyzed or has a terrible side effect from a vaccine. And I think pretty clearly he believes no one should, receive any pressure, coercion, or threat of reprisal for vaccines. It shouldn't be mandated for school or for employment or military service. And we should have, all the states in the country should have full tripartite vaccine exemptions, meaning philosophical exemption, don't feel like you don't need to take it on philosophical grounds, religious and medical. So there should be freedom. He's pushing for freedom. This is very important. Medical freedom is related to social and economic freedoms. They're all related. And that's what I told America when I gave my Lincoln Memorial address. You know, that was a few minutes before Kennedy was up on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial with me. So I think we're very well aligned on this. You know, what I find interesting is that the COVID Community States Program weighed in from North-eastern University and Harvard, and a huge sample. So they actually figured out who took the vaccine. And the answer is in America, 25% of adult Americans, like me, did not take the vaccine. I didn't take the COVID vaccine. Best decision I ever made. I feel great. I don't have to worry about blood clots or heart damage or any of these lingering effects that we're seeing now. So many people who skipped the vaccine are so grateful they made the right choice. So that 25%, many of them actually suffered reprisal for doing this. They lost their jobs, family strife. There was a lot of unnecessary consequences that happened to people who made the right decision. Now, We only have 60% of the adult Americans who vote, only 60% vote.The 25% who didn't take the vaccine like me are likely to vote.So now we have nearly half of the voting block for the presidency where the vaccine is the issue.And everybody wants to know where do the candidates stand on the failed COVID-19 vaccines.That uptick really intrigued me and it's something that's come out in the UK that we now have a database you can put in your zip code for you over there or postcode and you can find out supposedly the uptake and one of the striking things on that is the booster uptick is around 1 to 2% in many areas and I probably didn't necessarily believe a lot of the data that were getting. But that 25% that didn't, I thought, wow, there's at last some honesty with the figures. And I guess you looking at these figures of the last three years, there's been massive scepticism of the information we're being told.
Well, I'm glad you mentioned that because as the COVID Community States Program, which was an academic epidemiologic program, as they were reporting 25% unvaccinated, the CDC at that time was reporting 8% unvaccinated.Well, what's the difference? And the answer is the CDC was over counting.If patients forgot their vaccine card, they went to a different pharmacy, they could have had a new card started at the booster stage and been counted again.So we now know that the CDC does not have accurate vaccination data.There tended to be overestimating vaccination.Our CDC is currently reporting 16% booster uptake, and that's almost certainly an overestimate.We need to know booster uptake by time.Because the boosters only last theoretically six months. Clinically, it's about half of that.So no matter who took a booster more than six months ago, they're effectively unvaccinated.
Yeah. If I can just discuss some of the things you've posted, even just the last week on Twitter, and of course, if people go to your Twitter handle, they can get the link to your Substack, the website, everything is there and encourage people to to sign up.Certainly your Substack, which has been a fantastic source of information for many of us.And one of the actually it was America Outloud.com, which I know you write for, had the headline you put up a few days ago was try to vaccine injury syndromes converges on victims.It said amongst the most common and frustrating COVID-19 vaccine injury syndromes are small fibre neuropathy, pleurodynia and POTS, which I can't even pronounce what's there, and you had a lady who came on and acted as if she was going to see her doctor and discussed what, but tell us about some, because we hear all different side effects and we'll maybe touch on myocarditis a little bit, but it was those three coming together and it seems to be every week, every two weeks, there's another issue that comes up.
It's true, but this triad that I pointed out far and away is the most common constellation. I've been seeing patients now with vaccine injuries now for two years, you know, steady flow in the clinic, so I really have a good handle on this.And so the triage is the following. One is pleurodynia, just some nonspecific chest pain.Sometimes it hurts to cough or take a deep breath or laugh. Sometimes when they put pressure on the chest, one can feel pain, which is called pleurodynia. The next one is a small fibre neuropathy, that is feeling numbness and tingling, prickling in the hands and the feet, usually sometimes the back of the legs.And then the third is POTS or Posterior Orthostatic Tachycardia Syndrome. And patients will recognize this because their heart rate unexpectedly will shoot up when they're doing nothing, then go down. Blood pressure up and down. When they exercise, things seem to be out of proportion to what they need in terms of exercise, and they feel generally unwell. And so I was lucky enough to have a patient reach out to me. She's very sophisticated, and she gave consent, and she told us her story and she had that triad.And I went through the questions I would ask her, the tests I would order to rule out serious problems like myocarditis, like major problems in the central nervous system, et cetera.And then what medicinal empiric approach would I take?And for the pleurodynia, the drug I prescribed the most is called Colchicine.This is a form of an anti-inflammatory. There's about two dozen trials in acute COVID-19 showing that it plays a role. So we know it's helpful there.The largest one of note's called the CO-Corona trial done out of the Montreal Heart Institute, over 4,000 subjects, probably the best and largest outpatient COVID study.So colchicine is also used to treat gout and forms of inflammation.So it seems to be very important for the pleurodinium.For the POTS, the posterior orthostatic tachycardia syndrome.That's actually too much adrenaline being released from the sympathetic chain of ganglia in the neck as well as the adrenal glands.And I found that it was a relatively underutilized beta blocker called Natalo, which has what's called intrinsic sympathomimetic activity.It seems to modulate the alpha and beta receptors just the way we need in order for that nervous system feedback loop to the brain to be corrected.And then the final triage in this entire problem is actually dissolving the spike protein itself, which is loaded up with COVID-19, the illness and serial vaccines.Remember, we get spike protein in our body, we can't get it out for months, if not a year or more, after the infection, as well as the vaccines. Each shot of the vaccine installs large amounts of spike protein.There we're utilizing nattokinase.Nattokinase is a natural enzyme that's derived from the fermentation of soy is discovered by the Japanese.A bacteria that breaks it down is Bacillus subtilis natto.And it creates this fermented product as an enzyme. The Japanese have been using it for over a thousand years.That is eat consuming natto. But we now have a supplement they've used for about two decades.They use it for cardiovascular applications. a form of a blood thinner, so it's a serious supplement to take. The current recommended dose is 2,000 fibrinolytic units or 100 milligrams twice a day, it's well within the range of safety. It's been safety tested up to 80,000 units at a single time, so it's well within the safety limit.The caveats are bleeding, mucosal bleeding from the nose or mouth, and then a soy allergies.Otherwise, it is a safe supplement.It's not immediate that this three-component therapeutic program works, but most patients after two months, they start to come back and they start to feel like they're on the way back.So I wanted to share that. Many of the doctors that are sought out nowadays are with The Wellness Company.I advise that company as a chief scientific officer so they're well aware of that approach.But I have to tell you, that's my most common approach I use in clinic and I'm glad we finally found something that can help people through this.I've tried hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, fluvoxamine, prednisone, a whole variety of different drugs and I've really settled on these three. Two prescription drugs and then one over-the-counter supplement.
That's really helpful. And I think many people are concerned that if they did have any of these and they went to see their normal doctor, that actually in the doctor's mind would not be thinking that actually these could be related and therefore their concerns could be dismissed.I agree. The first question a patient should ask a doctor is, did they take the COVID vaccine and did they push it on their patients?And if they did, the patient ought to have a serious conversation with it because that doctor made some grave mistakes with his or her own healthcare and obviously pushed a dangerous vaccine on their patients.And we now know large numbers of people have died after the vaccine, have suffered injuries or disabilities, and those doctors really owe their patients an apology.
There was another tweet, you said, most people with long COVID are vaxxed, so multiple spike protein exposures are making Americans sick.And I know I've talked to UK friends and US friends, they seem to think the solution to long COVID is getting a booster and another booster.And tell me, tell us about that, because people are ill and with long COVID and some people it's quite a dark journey.
It's true. Long COVID, remember this occurred before the vaccine, so the respiratory illness clearly causes it. It almost exclusively occurs in people who are sick enough to be hospitalized, about 50% will have it. They feel generally unwell, weight loss of skeletal muscle, hair loss, skin and nail changes, headache, ear ringing, fatigue, brain fog. It really bothers people.Now, with lesser degrees of severity of COVID, there's less and less long COVID.The best way to prevent it is actually early treatment.If we can snuff out the virus very early and get relatively little exposure to the virus in the body, that's the best way to do it.We again believe what's driving this is the pathogenic spike protein, the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.Now, the vaccines install more spike protein.So there's no way the vaccine can make it better. It's going to clearly make it worse.But what we have in many countries, a good example is Australia, I was just there a few months ago.Virtually all of Australia was pre-vaccinated.They were all pre-vaccinated. Because the vaccines don't work, they get COVID anyway.So those who are having long COVID, it's far more severe in Australia because they've been pre-vaccinated and they've been loaded with the spike protein.So then we have to work our way out of it. But I wouldn't want anybody to think we should take a vaccine to reduce the chances of long COVID because the vaccines don't work, people get COVID anyway, and it just makes the long COVID syndromes worse.And so as we sit here today, a paper by Claussen and colleagues from Harvard suggests that 94% of Americans have already had COVID.I've already told you 75% took vaccines. So anybody with long COVID likely has had both exposures.
Yeah, absolutely. There was another study or news piece from Trialsite News and that was on maternal mortality skyrocketing, gestational thrombotic complications up and MRA in the breast milk. And I think the MRA in the breast milk, that should fill a lot of people with big concern. I know that's been talked about before, but I mean, tell us about this because you end that tweet by saying COVID vaccine should never have been allowed in pregnant women.
Early in 2021, Dr. Raphael Stricker in San Francisco, who runs, by the way, the largest fetal loss centre in the United States, he's an expert. He's an allergist, immunologist, but he's an expert on pregnant women and losing their babies. And Dr. Stricker and I published in trial site news that the COVID-19s were vaccine category X, and that's a regulatory category saying that they have a dangerous mechanism of action. They install the lethal spike protein in the body, and we have no experience in pregnant women. They were excluded from randomized trials and no assurances would be safe to the woman or the baby, none whatsoever.So it's pregnancy category X. It's very important. Pregnant women should have never taken the vaccine. Never, never. It doesn't matter what the doctors say. Pregnant women are responsible for themselves, their bodies, and their babies. Now, pregnant women have a lower risk of severe COVID outcomes as shown by Pinellas and colleagues in a paper in Annals of Internal Medicine. So, we weren't worried about pregnant women. If they got severe COVID, they're treatable, you know, and we can treat them with an array of drugs. By the way, hydroxychloroquine, very safe in pregnancy. We've, you know, it's been actually dedicated pregnancy studies with hydroxy. So, so we know for sure it's safe, as is aspirin, prednisone, and the other drugs that we normally use.Now, what's coming out is very, very disturbing. First, last summer in JAMA, a paper by Hannah and colleagues showed that breastfeeding women who take the vaccine, they actually are transmitting the messenger RNA through milk to the babies.And this is a terrible, very worrisome finding. Now genetic material getting into the bodies of recently arrived babies in the world.No idea what this is gonna do to the children. It can't be good.It's definitely not natural.The next piece of information came, first author is Hoyert, a single author paper, analysing data from the National Centre for Health Statistics.And there, it's published on the CDC website, March of 2023, showing record maternal mortality.That is, women dying during pregnancy or 42 days after the pregnancy.That was the definition according to their highest risk group, African Americans, but at all groups. They've erased progress in maternal mortality. Now, in the same sub-stack, I juxtapose the CDC report that indicates 65% of pregnant women have either taken the vaccine, ill-advised, before or during pregnancy. Despite our warnings that it's pregnancy category X, now we have the tragic case that unfolded last week of the death of U.S. Olympic sprinter Tori Bowie. And what we know there is this is just absolutely terrible. She's found dead at home, and she's seven months pregnant. The U.S. Track and Field Association has mandated COVID-19 vaccination, so they've been silent now. USTAF and family have been silent on whether or not she took the vaccine. But the concern is that she took it, and she had a fatal complication, either blood clot, heart damage, or some type of intracranial catastrophe.
Wow, wow. And of course, we have learned, I think just could have been yesterday, about the reactivation of federal funding for Eco Health Alliance. To touch on that, because obviously,your government, our government, they haven't learned anything over these last three years.
I think it's very intentional. Peter Daszak, who's the president of the Eco Health Alliance, they're basically an NIH contractor. They work with academic groups. They take the blueprint for viruses that are basically engineered in the lab by computer modelling by US researchers, and then they shuttle the plans over to the Chinese or other Asian countries where the the work is done in order to create new viruses.Daszak was involved in shuttling over the plans from Ralph Baric to create the chimeric SARS-CoV-2 virus.And Baric published this in 2015 in Nature Communications and proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.They created SARS-CoV-2 and published the methods and how they did it, chimeric parts, of a virus from a bat, parts of a virus from a known coronavirus in order to get it to invade a human respiratory epithelial tract. Peter Daszak, early in 2021, led a group of doctors.After they had met on a conference call with Anthony Fauci and Francis Collins and Jeremy Farrar from the Wellcome Trust in the UK, Daszak led a group of authors to publish one of a series of papers. It was a dozen academic papers that were intentionally fraudulent. They were deceiving the public, describing the virus came out of nature when Daszak himself knew it came out of basically his plans that he drew up with Ralph Baric at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. This was an intentional cover-up campaign. This came out in the U.S. House Select Committee for the Coronavirus Origins, led by House Representative Comer, and it's shocking that the NIH, and actually the branch that Fauci used to lead, the NationalImmunology Infectious Disease and Allergy Branch, that they actually released his former R01 grant.His R01 grant was distilled to look among different bats to try to find viral strains that could jump into humans. I mean, it's just simply asking for trouble. Daszak is off, and you know, these are small grants, it was only about $500,000. It's not the size of the grant that matters, it's the fact that he's going to be able to now shuttle academic capital to Asia. Daszak says that now he's going to take this to the Duke University branch in Singapore, but the grant describes the bat caves in China going right back to the same work. So you're right. It appears as if the NIH is wilfully blind to this active cover-up.They don't care.They're pursuing this biological threat research. They must have been given orders high up to continue to do this.We have the National Security Administration, the FBI,Department of Energy and NIH, the House and the Senate all agreeing that the origin of SARS-CoV-2 was the lab. It was a US innovation contracted to the Chinese, and it leaked out of the lab in Wuhan, China. But to continue to pursue this, many are saying, and I agree, that it's reckless, it's irresponsible, and it really shows deep complicity that the biopharmaceutical complex is at work creating more biological threats for the world. And Peter Daszak is leading the way.
Well, let's certainly watch what happens on that. On the, back to the specific medical side.You had written a piece on your website, and I think the headline was, myocarditis not recovering 80% at six months after vaccination. Tell us about it, because again, people are expecting that the body can recover quickly, but this says that only 20% of people with that had recovered over six months.
Another disturbing report, this comes from Yale School of Medicine. They had 17 young teenagers in the hospital with myocarditis.Remember, teenagers should be going to high school. They shouldn't be hospitalized with myocarditis. They ill-advised took one of the COVID-19 vaccines and they got in deep trouble.Sky-high troponin levels showing heart damage, probably had chest pain, shortness of breath, arrhythmias, other manifestations, and they undergo serial MRIs. Now, they did rule out any exposure to COVID, so that was very clean. This is purely due to the vaccine.And they found that in 80%, the MRI at 200 days was not getting better. 20% it got better. You know, these small areas of late gadolinium enhancement that we see on MRI, they should resolve. Previous work done years ago by Bruckman and colleagues from Germany showed that the heart can remodel a small area of inflammation. I'm concerned that the genetic material, Pfizer and Moderna, is sufficiently long-lasting, the spike protein long-lasting, the body keeps producing more of it, that the children have ongoing cardiac injury and it's not clearing up on MRI.This could leave some to have a scar, and when they have a scar they could be at increased risk for two things, heart failure later on in life or cardiac arrest, particularly with sports.Wow, and on sports, we've seen a number of sports stars. The papers seem to be regularly full of another sports star having retired early or having complications.I mean, tell us about, because the stories are there, but maybe the dots are not necessarily being joined up.
Well, let's take the issue of death in young people. There's a paper on my substack that I quote from about 15 years ago, and you can find it on the Courageous Discourse sub-stack, but it was basically describing death among college students. It does happen rarely.But the point of the paper was 87% of the time, we know the cause of death.Readily apparent, you know, cancer or suicide or homicide or a drug overdose, motor vehicle accident.What we're seeing now is scores of athletes, scores, sudden death and no explanation, no explanation at all.And it's called died suddenly, Edward Dowd has compiled an entire monograph on this in the life insurance roles of sudden unexplained death skyrocketing, mortality skyrocketing in every system.John Stockton, former Utah Jazz star, is keeping track of the athletes in the United States and there's hundreds now that have died, have died on the court or in practice.It seems to be the adrenaline that precipitates the sudden death with vaccine-induced myocarditis.And we knew actually before the COVID vaccines that we can't let young people with myocarditis exercise because it will trigger a sudden death event. So we knew this ahead of time.And what's happened is the sports teams have mandated the vaccines, but they haven't provided any safety safeguards for the athletes. And so they suffer heart damage. And then during competition, we never know who's going to have a cardiac arrest. Polycritus and myself analysed this issue, using really just a blog, a public blog of European athletes went down. But it's pretty rigorous. There had to be four or more reports, and you could easily identify that the athlete went down. And the data showed this, that before COVID-19, in the stable period of about 10 or 15 years before COVID-19, the number of cardiac arrests in Europe in the professional leagues, mainly soccer and rugby, but you call football.Age 35 and below, pro and semi-pro, number of cardiac arrests 29 per year.Now, fast forward with vaccination and in 2021 forward, that number came out now, you know, comparing apples to apples, 283. So there's about a tenfold increased risk of sudden death with mass-mandated COVID-19 vaccination. We have clear fatal cases of the COVID-19 vaccines causing myocarditis and sudden death with autopsies, so we know it's happening. And now the great concern is so many athletes have taken it, and they want to know what to do. They have great regret. It's been an absolute horror for our athletes unnecessarily to be vaccinated.A story that came out just today, and again we're seeing headlines that we wouldn't have seen a year ago, I think you're probably the same there, but the headline was, I had to reread this four or five times, the headline in the Daily Mirror was, Brits are dying in their tens of thousands and we don't really have any idea why.And they talked about between May and December 2022, that 32,000 excess deaths.And to have a headline that honest, we really have no idea.That's telling. And I'm assuming, I don't know whether it's in the States, whether you are beginning to, the media are beginning to drop little headlines like that in to begin to have the conversation or not yet.No, it's starting to happen. I was on national TV this morning and the morning anchor mentioned death after vaccination, so it's starting to come up.What we know is that every mortality system is reporting skyrocketing mortality, primarily of younger individuals.A paper published by Skidmore in BMC Infectious Diseases estimated in 2021 that 278,000 Americans had died due to the vaccine. And that matches roughly what VAERS was reporting for that year with a multiplier of about 30. It's very consistent with a paper from Columbia, same year, Pentecost and Seligman. So we have multiple sources of data. We think we lost about a quarter million Americans in the first year of the campaign due to the vaccine, a similar number in the next year.We may be over 600,000. Now, that's going to exceed the amount of casualties we had in the civil war. So this is a very, very serious problem. The vaccines were considered a wartime countermeasure. So the government agencies didn't consider it a public health measure.It's not considered like a standard pharmaceutical. It's considered like basically a war initiative, where there's going to be casualties. And boy, have there been casualties with this vaccine. So, before COVID, the general mortality that we had in the United States, or in UK for that matter, is known. And then it's 40% known antecedent heart disease, 40% known cancer, or 20% other causes. But in the vast majority, it's known. Death is not a mystery in our countries. And what we're seeing now is just a large fraction where they've taken a vaccine and they've died, and the official cause of death is unknown.And when autopsies are done, two papers, one by Schwab, one by Chavez, and there's been probably about 100 necropsy studies that we're compiling at this stage, they show that when an autopsy is done, 70 to 80% of the time, they have a clear-cut cause of death that's, related to the vaccine. Fatal myocarditis, fatal intracranial haemorrhage or clotting, blood clots and pulmonary embolism, or one of the fatal immunologic syndromes. These are published in well-described vaccine-induced thrombotic thrombocytopenic peria, multi-system inflammatory disease. So we have a huge scientific base that's indicating the vaccines are essentially killing large numbers of people worldwide.And is it possible that we could get to the point where any of these companies are liable for it, or is it irrelevant who's in the White House because they've been given that protection?
People have said that two conditions may ultimately drop liability shields.The broad liability is not only from the 1986 Vaccine Indemnification Act, but also from the 2005 Prep Act, which says, listen, if we have an invasion of SARS-CoV-2, it's like a war. And so the wartime countermeasures are all, you know, have immunity. But the, two conditions are fraud, that if the public was defrauded by the vaccine manufacturers or the government agencies that were advancing them, the employers that were forcing them.And then the other is actually malicious intent, that indeed, if it was intentionally designed to be harmful, maybe documents would, you know, identify intent. But fraud and malicious intent are the two things that lawyers are looking at most closely. Because, you know, some of these cases are very obvious. Some take the vaccine, they die right in the vaccine centre, or they die the next day. Now, in the UK, as well as the United States, our government, by the way, holds both datasets. They have the entire death database, and they have the vaccine administration database. And if they merge them, we can see how many people die in the first day, in the second day, and look at the temporal relationship. Any death within 30 days, according to regulatory practice, should be assigned to the new drug, in this case the COVID-19 vaccine.And what's the, I mean, I had Tom Fitton on a few days ago from Judicial Watch, and they use freedom of information requests, which we have the same system here.They use it at another level than I've seen before. But will that have to be used as a way to get the data?Because obviously some of the data that had been released from Pfizer, there's so much and it's still been gone through.Will it have to be other freedom of information requests to get more of this data to actually put the jigsaw together.
It's true. Well, you point out that the pharmaceutical companies kept their own separate safety data by obligation to the U.S. FDA for 90 days after release. So anything that happens 90 days after they release the product, they have to record everything. Pfizer had recorded 1,223 deaths within a few hours or a few days of taking their vaccine. So it should have been off the market in January of 2021, and Pfizer did not want to release that to the American public. They got a lawyer. The lawyer for the FDA wanted to block it for 55 years. So that was evidence that the US government is colluding with Pfizer to basically hide safety data in the Pfizer vaccine. Moderna still has not released their 90-day data, neither has Janssen or Novavax. So immediately, there should be strong calls for release of the safety data. It should be done under the prosecutorial power of the U.S. Congress, Senate, Department of Justice, Freedom of Information Act, but that's pretty slow and that's citizen-driven. We need our government agencies to step up and have the companies release the data. I mean, I want to know, is Moderna the same or even worse than Pfizer?I suspect it is, because all the studies that directly compared Moderna and Pfizer show greater toxicity with Moderna. There's a paper by Busby and colleagues on myocarditis that showed that.So, you know, our regulatory agencies, FDA, CDC, NIH, MHRA in the UK, and TGA in Australia, they have grossly let us down. They're actually participating in a fraudulent cover-up of a worldwide COVID-19 vaccine safety debacle.Just my final thought about you as a medical professional, and I've talked to UK doctors and they find it extremely difficult.Those who have spoken up, they've been punished. They've been pulled in front of disciplinary committees.And I know you've suffered as well. What is what is that like?And can doctors be vocal about their concerns or really have many had to stay quiet and how has it affected you?Doctors all need to step up. People are dying. They've died with the virus, untreated, and they've died now with the vaccine. This is not a time for doctors to be silent. They need to be bold and relentless, bring the truth forward. I haven't had a single doctor of my medical standing, the chief of medicine or division chief in cardiology or other medical specialty, actually ever look me in the eyes or send me an email or give me a call on the phone.Not a single one. They're absolutely ashamed of themselves. And I've had attacks from anonymous fact checkers making false claims. I've had attacks through certified letter or email, essentially trying to strip me of all my credentials. And every one of these attempts, I just get stronger. I've got a very, very strong voice out there in the world right now, and everybody knows it. I've given more media analysis. I've done more publications, more stage presentations on this issue than all the public health officials combined.And you can't find an area where I've been wrong or where I've been inconsistent.My views have changed as the virus has mutated, but I've been accurate and you know, the world knows it.And because I have so much media exposure, I have more than the public health officials.The world is coming to me and doctors in my circles for the truth.I think these government agencies and the biopharmaceutical complex is in trouble, and they're looking for the exits right now.We've had Francis Collins, head of the NIH, retire prematurely.Anthony Fauci, head of NIAID.We've seen now Rochelle Lewinsky, just two and a half years in the CDC, and a young woman, very junior, now leave the CDC. People are heading for the exits because they know they've committed wrongdoing.Dr. Peter McCullough, thank you so much for your time today. It's an honour to speak with you. Thank you.
Thanks for having me. Be sure to follow me on my website, petermcullochmd.com.Make sure you check in my podcast, McCulloch Report on America Out Loud Talk Radio, 2 p.m.Eastern, Saturday and Sunday on the Apple iHeart Podcast Network starting on Tuesday.My book, Courage to Face COVID-19, and I'm starting a new TV show, full investigative TV show in Dallas on AFN Network with bestselling author John Leake.It's called The Second Opinion. I'll see you there or start in June.Thanks so much for having me on the program.

The Week According To . . . Dr Niall McCrae

Dr Niall McCrae is back in the hot seat for his regular reviewing spot as we look at a couple of recent articles he has written and he offers his unbridled thoughts on some of the news stories that have caught our attention this week including...- The MPs answers to ten big questions.- Empty polling stations – are we still living in a democracy?- Covid: The destruction of medical ethics .- Andrew Bridgen GB News debate, Spiked and Pfizer.- Brits are dying in their tens of thousands....and we don't really have any idea why.- Justin Welby is 'wrong' to condemn Illegal Migration Bill as 'morally unacceptable'.- Britain’s services exports are booming despite Brexit. Why?- Starbucks sacks trans worker who accused female customer of being transphobic in 'confrontation over being misgendered'- Fears for free speech after journalists’ union refuses to defend gender-critical members
MPs answers to the ten big questions...
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/toeing-the-party-line-mps-answers-to-the-ten-big-questionsDr Niall McCrae is an officer for ‘Covid coercion in the workplace’ for the Workers of England trade union, the only union standing up for workers' rights and freedoms in the UK during these troubled times.From 2010 to 2021 he was a senior lecturer in mental health at King’s College London, and he continues to write on mental health matters.He was also a senior researcher for David Kurten and Peter Whittle on the London Assembly.His publications include several books including ‘Moralitis: a Cultural Virus’ (with Robert Oulds), ‘The Moon and Madness’, ‘Echoes from the Corridors’ (with Peter Nolan) and ‘The Year of the Bat’ (with MLR Smith).He is a regular contributor to Unity News Network, Gateway Pundit, Lockdown Sceptics, The Salisbury Review and The Light.Follow Niall on gab social @Dr_Niall_McCraehttps://www.workersofengland.co.uk/Originally broadcast live 13.5.23
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(Hearts of Oak)
Dr. Niall McCrae. Thank you so much for being with us today.
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Always good to be on on a Saturday evening with you, Peter.
What else would you be doing apart from having a one-hour chat with me?Always good fun. So let's play the first one.ChrisDavis33 is first on on GETTR. There you go. No prizes, but good to see you. Anyone else, put your comments and let us know how you're watching, as in where you are in the world.Always good to get an idea. We've got probably a 30%, 30% US, 60% UK and elsewhere. And if you see our nice, do you see the logo? We've just put a half a Stars and Stripes behind our oak and half a Union Jack. So we've tweaked a little bit to represent you, our viewer. But this was a There's a one minute comedy clip that James Wells had put up.I think Steve Kirsch also put it up. So let's play this.
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I regret having gotten the, I really regret having gotten the vaccine.I'm sure it's fine, but I just wish when the state told me to do something, I'd be the sort of person who said no.But it turns out, I'm the sort of person who says, fine, I don't understand, you're telling me it's important, okay, and all they had to do was say, you won't be allowed to go into pubs for like a month, and I was like, put it in me.That's what I'm upset about, is that I had a principle, temporarily.Like, oh, if I was in Nazi Germany, I would have stood up to the regime.I wouldn't stand up to not being able I go to a pub for a month.I would have been like, Anne Frank, she's in that attic.There, I saw her. It doesn't matter what the point of principle was.The point is I would have been a chill.And that, I have to live with that for the rest of my three or four more years before I have a heart attack.Always good to start with a laugh. I think humour is one thing It's probably taken us through the last three years.I don't know about you, but I've certainly enjoyed many of the memes and artists people like Bob Moran, Abi Roberts, I mean tons of people who've helped us all through it.
Oh yes, indeed. And a feature of the anti-lockdown rallies was the positivity and, humour and just humanity, really. They were trying to quash us. They were trying to to oppress us and deprive us of our kind of vitality.And it didn't work. And like you say, humour is one of the most powerful things.
Definitely didn't work.Let's go to the next story. We might have a slight delay in sound, but let's bring it up.I'll read it and then we'll take it from there. And this is an article by Niall himself.And this is the Conservative Women who are regularly are the only voice on this issue.And they've blazed a trail and speaking truth on this when many others wouldn't.And this piece is towing the party line, MPs answers to the 10 big questions.And in this, I'll just read the first few lines. What do our parliamentary representatives really think about climate change, COVID-19, migrant channel crossings and transgenderism?Two months ago, I presented 10 questions for readers to send to their MPs.By the time of writing, 14 MPs had responded with 11 sets of answers.So you'd put a range of questions down and members of the public have taken those and sent them on to their MPs.And the answers have come back. And I, again, the link to this, if you're watching on, certainly on Rumble, the link will be there in the description.We will certainly be reposting this, if my mod team can hear me, on our social medias.But of course you can find it on Niall's Gab account.Neil, tell us a little bit about this, because what were you expecting?And tell us the response that you got back.Boris Johnson got that huge majority in December 2019, big mandate, and he could potentially have done everything that was pledged in the manifesto. Then COVID-19 came along and, well, you know, whatever you believe about COVID, let's just say that that was certainly a disruptor to the whatever program that Boris Johnson was going to carry out. But if you look at his behaviour, you know, once the sort of urgency of COVID, you know, that first wave, once that settled down, Boris Johnson went straight into this build back better mode, didn't he?Which is all about focusing on climate change.And he was allowing all this, he did nothing really to stop the Black Lives Matter, woke wave in summer 2020.And now that leads me to why we did this 10 questions for MPs.Because when you think about it, Peter, and I'm sure your viewers will be well aware of this, is that almost everything that's being done by those who are leading us are not things that we asked for.None of us asked for mass uncontrolled immigration. None of us asked for net zero.None of us asked for, well, I mean, obviously there was plenty of people that were in support of the COVID regime, but that wasn't part of the manifesto.None of us asked for our teachers in schools to be telling children that they can be whatever gender they want, and this transgenderism ideology.So there's all these things going on.The most prominent things going on in our society that none of us have asked for.So I put together a series of 10 questions for constituents to send to their MPs.And we got responses from just a few. It's just not a scientific survey.We don't know how many MPs were sent the questions, but we got responses from Rishi Sunak, no less, and some of his ministers, mostly Tory MPs.And we, I had this article published on Conservative Women two days ago.Since then, I've had two more responses. So it's just added to it a little bit.So there's an updated version going up on new Conservative website on Monday.But the thing is, Peter, that the sample size would sound very small.So 16 MPs, of which only 13 have actually provided a full set of answers to 10 questions.But what we found, you know, I used to teach research methods in university.And with qualitative research, something you teach is saturation point.Saturation point is where there's no point in carrying on interviewing people, because you're getting the same answers.And we very, very quickly reached what we might call saturation point with our responses to these questions.They are all following the narrative.There is hardly any. I mean, one of the respondents was John Redwood, and he was only one that gave any sign of scepticism about things that were going on, and even then only limited.Look, they're all following the narrative, it's like they're in a parallel universe and you know if anyone wants to look at the response to those, answers given by MPs go on the Conservative Women website where there's a couple of hundred comments from people, you know, just saying, if this is who's leading us, then we really are in trouble.And let me just, just as we finish, the questions are, do you believe there is a climate change?Do you believe that COVID was a deadly pandemic? Do you believe that lockdown was necessary?Do you believe COVID vaccines are safe and effective? So I have to even laugh whenever safe and effective is used now. Do you support billions of pounds of military supplies going to Ukraine? Do you regard the tens of thousands of people crossing the English Channel as refugees?Do you believe it's safe for dozens of undocumented male migrants to be housed in our towns or boats?Do you support teaching of transgender ideology to our children?If you do not agree with any of the above, what are you doing to oppose such a policy?And finally, what is a woman? I mean, it's a beautiful range of questions, Niall.I'd encourage everyone, the article there, toeing the party line on conservative women.
Yes, and it's not too late for anyone who's watching tonight, if you want to take those questions and send them to your own GP, MP, sorry. And I'm always willing to update and refresh the results. A couple of interesting things about who answered the questions. So got 16 responses but only 13 actually really answered the questions. Only one of them was female. You know, we have all this much better female representation now, at least in numbers, but the reality is this type of woman who's representing us in Parliament has got little interest in the ordinary wishes of women and girls, for example, to have safe spaces.Their own toilets in a theatre, for example, they don't really care. The type of woman who is in Parliament, they don't care. And I reckon that the question in that survey, what is a woman, that made him think, I'm not going to get into this.Too much for the minefield.
Yeah. Well, let's move on to something a little bit different, which is the election. Is this the election, ProJam?No. Let's pull up the election story. Obviously, we've had local elections, and this one was another very good article from Niall McCrae.A pattern here. You have to check out Niall on The Conservative Woman. It just happened these were the first two stories. But on this, empty polling stations, are we still living in a democracy?And Niall, you were pointing out that in many parts of the country the turnout was 30%.Which meant 70%. And I always kind of used, when I was growing up, thinking, well if people don't vote is up to them, it's their problem. But actually, everyone has to participate in the democratic process. If people don't participate, then it's no longer a democratic process. But tell us about your thoughts on this, that people can find on The Conservative Woman.Yes, well, are we living in a democracy when the vast majority of people don't vote? Now, obviously the rebuttal of that is that everyone can vote, you know, it's up to them and if they don't vote that's their own fault.But the trouble is that increasingly, certainly the last three years, people have woken up more and more to the fact that we're run by a uni-party.It doesn't matter whether you've got a Labour government or a Tory government and if we had a Lib Dem government or a Green Party government, we'd still get the same policies.There might be a slightly different flavour and there might be a slightly different presentation, but it would be basically the same thing that's going on.And what we're seeing increasingly, Peter, is that this isn't just something that applies to national government.Up and down the country, you've got councils introducing 15-minute cities and 20-minute neighbourhoods, low traffic schemes, that sort of thing, and they try and make out as if this is just something they've made up themselves, you know, to like make the air healthier and make the, you know, reduce pollution and so on.They're lying to us.This is all Agenda 2030.Right, or Agenda 21, it's basically the same ideas. This is United Nations, this is a globalist, this is a World Economic Forum. It doesn't matter who you've got representing you in your local council, your city chambers, or in Westminster, or in the devolved assemblies in Wales, Scotland, Northern Ireland, it doesn't matter, they're all following the same agenda, as they are in all other developed countries. And people have woken up to this and unfortunately the response is not to all get behind some new party that's going to, overturn this establishment. It's very, very hard to do that. I mean there are some people working very hard such as David Kurten of the Heritage Party, Robin Tilbrook of the English Democrats, for example, and Andrew Bridgen joined Lawrence Fox's reclaimed party. But it is extremely difficult. I mean, we saw that with UKIP. Very, very, very difficult to get. You saw it with the Brexit party. They did very well in the last European elections, but they were not going to get anywhere, not get a single MP in the general election that followed soon after.So it's very, very difficult. And so people are responding to this situation by simply not voting at all, or going and spoiling their paper, saying none of the above, or more choice language than that. And I don't blame people. I don't blame people for feeling that it's futile voting. I wish there was a good party that we could get behind that would readily change things, but there just isn't that at the moment. But as I say, I do admire the people who are trying to change that situation.
Can I ask just your thoughts for a minute on that, because I'm the same as you on the side-lines regarding political parties, and I couldn't, I would have difficulty voting at the moment for anyone. And I love what David's done with the Heritage Party. The English Democrats are wonderful in what they're doing.But with Andrew Bridgen speaking at that event I was at today, a name joining reclaim, I'm intrigued by that because he could have stayed as an independent but he's joined a party.Obviously reform were not an option because they've jab, jab, jab.I guess English Democrats could have been an option that's because heritage.But I'm wondering will that, not that that will change the whole landscape of British politics, no.But I think that will be a nudge, quite a big change and what are your thoughts on that?
Yes, I've heard people raising this question, why didn't he stay as an independent? What you've got to try and do is put yourself in the shoes of Andrew Bridgen and, you know, David Kurten and I, who, you know, just mentioned a while ago, we've had many chats. David's been a keen student of cultural Marxism for many years. And, you know, one of the books that David and I often talk about is Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals. And, you know, the people that are in charge now are basically the anti-establishment types of the 60s and 70s. And they're now in charge, they've created a new establishment. And one of the rules for radicals is that if there's somebody kicking up some opposition to what you're doing, then you isolate them, you target them, you really freeze your focus on that person, and you make their life utterly intolerable. And that's exactly what was happening with Andrew Bridgen. Has any man been so disproportionately targeted in the last year or so? I mean, we can think of some other examples as well, such as Tommy Robinson or Julian Assange, but at the moment, it's Andrew Bridgen. And so I don't blame him at all for joining a party, a party that stands for free speech, and that he's now a member of a group. He's got people with him to support him. And I think that's important for the establishment to know, that if they do try and isolate people and persecute them, then there are sanctuaries.And that's what I see the Reclaim party as being, you know, Reclaim has got some quite, you know, genuine, really genuine people like Calvin Robinson involved. I've never been quite sure about Lawrence Fox, but he says a lot of the right things. He's doing a lot of the right things, but Martin Daubney was involved as well. So they've got some good people. And I don't blame Andrew Bridgen at all for taking the decision that he did.
We'll see a play out in British politics.Let's stay on the Conservative Woman, but we are leaving the authorship of Dr. McCrae.Dr. Ahmed Malik, someone who is new onto my scene, and probably new into many people's scenes.He has written this piece for Conservative Woman, COVID, the Destruction of Medical Ethics and Trust in the Medical Profession, Part 1.It is a fascinating read from a doctor, someone who has qualified 25 years ago and he gave some of his story in this.And he talks about, just starts, when it comes to the last three years, there's a lot I do not know. What I do know is that I have many questions.Was the pandemic a plandemic?It certainly felt like it. Did the virus skip from a lab? What exactly is a virus?What's the role of the US Department of Defence?And he delves into this. And I am thankful to doctors like this for putting their thoughts down so openly and honestly in this article and it gives us an insight into their experience and how they're seeing things because many of us do not have a medical background and therefore we look at things through a simple lens.But Niall, it's people like Dr. Malik actually writing pieces like this and opening it up that will really help us the public.Yeah it's very necessary and you know there's some controversy about Dr.Asseem Malhotra the cardiologist you know because he'd been shilling for the the vaccines early on, but I think we have to give people...The opportunity, the potential, to change their mind. And I think that's what Dr. Malhotra has done.Andrew Bridgen has done that. Ahmed Malik goes a lot further, I think, than Asseem Malhotra.He's questioning the whole basis of the pandemic or pseudo-pandemic, as I see it.This article that you're bringing up is a really useful read because what we've seen over the last three years is a departure from medical ethics.And people may be aware of the white rose people that do the stickers that people put up on lampposts.Many of these stickers are about, if you wondered why the people of Germany fell for the Third Reich, now you know, because all the doctors and nurses in 1930s Germany were on board, you know.And how did that happen?And, you know, partly this was about them just keeping their heads down, but they also enjoyed the pedestal that they were being put on as officers of the regime.And Ahmed Malik has stepped away from that and he has reminded us what are the true ethics of medicine.And they are autonomy, justice, first do no harm.And beneficence, as in that's all doing good. And the first one of them, autonomy, was the one that was most controversially ditched.People were coerced into taking these experimental injections.But the other three principles as well, were just simply no longer followed.And I found this very difficult, Peter, because I sat on an NHS Research Ethics Committee for many years.And these principles were really important that you always stuck to them.Didn't matter how much you thought this research proposal was interesting.If they were going to be doing something which in any way threatened any of these principles, then you would reject the application. And that was for research. Well, this is for the whole of health care, the whole health care system has been poisoning people with Midazolam.Forcing people to take injections, closing down services, stopping screening and treatment of people with cancer.The mental health impact has been immense. It's really quite dreadful and this is still going on.In fact, in many ways, it's getting worse, where it's getting harder and harder for people to get face-to-face contact with practitioners of a service, national health service, that they've been paying for in their taxes and that they've always lauded and now they find that they're not welcome that um, access is often denied and this is really um quite appalling and so to have doctors like Ahmed Malik stepping out and saying this is not right we we need to get back to proper medical ethics as soon as possible.Yeah. Let's actually touch on that, the Andrew Bridgen as well.I don't know if I sent it over to Projam, we'll not play this, I just want to bring up the tweet.And this is, Andrew, the great vax debate that GB News talked about, and obviously, GB News under Ofcom. This is the regulatory body, communication regulatory body, so they can't say anything which goes against government propaganda. And this was basically Spiked, which is a publication here in the UK, and Andrew Bridgen. It was Fraser Myers from Spiked.And it was, I watched the 13 minutes of it and it's...I would have had respect for Spiked if they had put across a different position in this, but they were simply mocking, smearing, calling Andrew Bridgen anti-vaxxer, conspiracy theorist.And it was rolling out the terms the government use. And I know an organization has asked if they have received money from Pfizer, and then Andrew Bridgen has said it'd be interesting to see what happens in that. But I mean, what are your thoughts on this, Niall? When we see organizations which generally are there for free speech, full free speech, and yet you're not allowed to talk about this because it's dangerous to question the government line.
Well, Spiked was my favourite website around 2015 to about 2019. It was actually the first website I wrote for.I met Fraser Myers several times and Brendan O'Neill was my favourite writer. I met him once.I thought these were very, very good people. But, you know, others have said to me, well, wait, just be a little bit cautious with how much you like a website that originated in living Marxism, which was a cultural Marxist organization. And people like Claire Fox, who's now sitting in the House of Lords. And Frank Faridi. You know, these are all people that I've really appreciated over the years. But I think what happened with, and their line on Brexit was very, you know, I thought was very, very good. You know, the way that they defended the working class against the sort of metropolitan elites that was trying to impose and, you know, deny them their, you know, the result of the fair election. But COVID showed that they were not quite what what we, people like me naively thought and they seem to take to lockdown and the COVID vaccine regime like a duck to water. I believe this brought out the, a side of them that, you know, they seem to enjoy this statist coup of the COVID regime.And of course, they've been shilling for the vaccines rather too enthusiastically and knocking anyone who, you know, comes, says anything heretical about vaccine injuries like Andrew Bridgen has done. I think they've lost a lot of trust and I think people are wondering what they're really about and I think we do need to look back to how they originated in living Marxism.They are and probably still are at heart cultural Marxists and I think the editor, you know, people call him Tintin, Tom Slater, I think his name is.Yeah, I think that's where they are. And I think for years that they've been fooling us because they've had things that, you know, I'm sure they genuinely believe that, you know, the working class people are being treated badly by the establishment.I'm sure that they really genuinely were writing on that, they were just pretending that they were on our side on that, but COVID has really badly exposed them.And, you know, they chose to write that hit piece on Andrew Bridgen.Andrew Bridgen wasn't coming out looking to attack them.This was a serious own goal. They've lost loads of followers, loads of subscribers and deservedly so, because, you know, if there's one thing that we've had to learn, it's a hard lesson we've had to learn over the last three years, that some of the institutions, some of the people that we liked, that we respected, we've had to think again about some of that and correspondingly people who perhaps we didn't like, organizations we didn't trust.We thought, well, maybe they had something good after all.It's been a steep learning curve for all of us, I think.Yeah. Who thought it would be shoulder to shoulder with Piers Corbyn. It throws out very strange thoughts.But here's the Daily Mirror. This headline really blew my mind.ProJam, if you can just scroll the headline up a little bit.Brits are dying in their tens of thousands.ProJam, can you scroll it up a little bit? So Brits are, no, we're not going to get, yeah, we are.Brits are dying in their tens of thousands, and we don't really have any idea why.And this is looking at excess deaths between May and December 2020 and talks about 32,000 excess deaths. It's this, yeah again the last three years I never thought I would be reading a headline like this that they are seeing the problem still not connecting the dots but it's getting out there that these excess deaths are there and the question is being asked. It's quite unbelievable they refuse to make the connection but it is a headline that will make people think?
Yes, I think so. So the mainstream media are just not going to make that connection, as you say, you know, that you could read numerous articles like this now, all the papers are now covering it, but they simply will not make any link to the vaccine.But, you know, if you think about, you know, there's always been this large number of people, large, you know, maybe 50% of society throughout the COVID years that's been going along with their, you know, believing that the fundamental narrative that there was a deadly virus and they had to wear masks and take the jabs and that sort of thing, but increasingly sort of questioning that over time.And now that it's, you know, no longer in any way an emergency situation, people are asking even more questions from the, you know, because they feel safe to do that now.So when they read an article like this, even though it doesn't mention the vaccine.People will know, they will know from their own friends and family that there are vaccine injuries.And anyone goes on social media now. I mean, Twitter is just ablaze with stuff about the harm being caused by these mRNA injections.So it'd be quite difficult for people not to make that link themselves, even though the mainstream media aren't making it.And one other thing on the deaths, Peter, is I heard today that the NHS stopped reporting, or NHS England, whoever it is, it stopped reporting deaths from blood clots. And I haven't looked into this properly, but that they stopped reporting this back in 2020. Before the vaccine rollout. So they knew this was coming.
Yeah. Well, they knew if they'd written, read what Pfizer, Moderna were holding back. I don't know if they had access to that, but yeah. Let's move on. We'll try and fly through our last, we'll do four stories. This is immigration. This is Wet Welby. I know it's not his speeding ticket, which is a whole other story. I'll leave the viewers to work that out. But this is the debate in Parliament on the immigration bill and this is the telegraph. Justin Welby is wrong to condemn illegal immigration bill as morally unacceptable. The Archbishop was told he was wrong.Speaking in the Lord's, the most reverent Justin Welby warned it risks damaging Britain's reputation at home and abroad and he failed to take a long-term strategic view in immigration challenges and blah blah blah. You expect this from him but the government are trying to deal with the problem and all Welby can do is criticize him because I guess he's an open border, everyone should come to the UK, but what were your thoughts on Welby?
Well I mentioned cultural Marxism a few moments ago and a strategy of cultural Marxism was a long march through the institutions and of course we can see how almost every major institution in society has been well and truly marched through, not least the Church of England. I sometimes want to ask these people, although I'll never get the chance. And even if I did ask it, I probably wouldn't get a straight answer from them. I'd like to ask Welby...Where would you draw the line? What would be your limit? Because right now, there are pictures of tens of thousands of people in the north of France, who are going to be crossing the Channel and thousands of them are going to come over this summer.This is causing despair, anger. It's causing great economic hardship because these people are costing a hell of a lot of money as well.But it's like the government no longer cares for its own people.The first duty of government is to look after the safety of its own people.And that no longer seems to matter. And Justin Welby doesn't seem to give a moment's thought to these people who he classes as refugees crossing the channel without documents. Some of them will be fleeing justice in their own countries. Some of them will be rapists. Some of them will be paedophiles.Some of them will be murderers. Now, somebody might say to me in response to saying that, how do you know? Well, I don't. But how do you know they're not? Because they're not documented.Yeah and so this is what's being done to British society, and it's not just Britain of course, the same is being done to Ireland.Archbishop of Canterbury, Justin Welby, is a menace to the British people, as are almost all the leaders of our institutions, most of our politicians, as Michael Jackson says, they don't care about us.
Exactly. Well, none of the bishops in the house care about any of us.Moving on to Brexit, and this is great from The Economist, trying to work out why Britain would be successful.Britain's services exports are booming despite Brexit. Why?And they try and look into this to try and understand why Britain is not doing worse.And Projam, can you just scroll down to the two graphs there?No, we're not going to get the graphs. But it's really interesting that obviously the left wing media want to bash Britain, and they can't because the service industry is booming in Britain despite Brexit. Who would have thought it, Niall?
Yes, well, this is The Economist, so you would think that this is economic experts, but what I've found over the years, Peter, is that economics is not the sort of science of finance at all. It's a social kind of studies field which is heavily populated by people of particular ideological bent who use this kind of, you know, quite sort of serious sounding title of economist to give more value to what they say.But really, they rarely get anything right at all about finance, do they?I mean, the Economist and the Financial Times have been wrong on just about everything.If you look at the inflation problem at the moment, did the Economist and the Financial Times warn you, dear viewers, about that?Did the Economist and the Financial Times warn you about the global financial crisis in 2007, 2008? No, they didn't have a clue it was coming.Because they're not scientists, they're pseudoscientists.They are just social studies, kind of ideological narrative pushers.And of course, Brexit is something that really went against the narrative.Let's finish off on two gender stories. Let me see if we can bring this up. This is,so this is Starbucks Saks trans worker who accused customer of being transphobic then knocked a phone out of person's hands in confrontation after being misgendered.Let me bring, let me actually bring and play the video.The video, give me one second and I will hear it.There, let me see if I can play this.
(video plays)
I want to leave that. You're rude. Don't ever call me transphobic. Ever. You do not know me. Never. You do not call me transphobic. Ever. I want to leave that.Hi, get out. You are trespassing now. You are trespassing. Get out.Apparently, we said something that sounds phobic.You actually, actually, you actually.You want some, give me the phone. You want some, give me the phone.Let go of me, give me the phone. I've got plenty of witnesses, give me the phone. I said, let go.And it more or less finishes there. The funny thing is that, obviously, after that went viral, that the individual got sacked for that.But it's this sense of entitlement, Niall, and I guess we have a whole education system where people are going through it and told that they shouldn't be offended.And if they're offended, it's hate.And obviously, whenever you go and buy your coffee, if the person is offended by, I don't know, by a look or a walk or whatever it is.But I guess we'll be seeing more and more of this in our society.Yeah, and my advice to people is, if you get into a situation like that lady got into, don't engage, just walk away.Because that person, however unreasonable they are, they have got the law behind them, the Equality Act, and the whole narrative is in their favour.And so in this case, you know, this person was filmed and found out and the company Starbucks had little option but to sack this person.You know, whatever happened to the customer is always right?But no, it's not worth. And this is why I'd say there's one sort of protest that I would not go to, and that's the drag queen, trans child grooming events, which I think are absolutely abhorrent, but I will not go to a protest because you'll get all these shrill socialist worker types and the police will be on their side and anything you say, potentially you could be apprehended for by the police.So I think just don't engage. You can never be forced to use somebody's pronouns, they try and force you to use their pronouns. No, you can't be forced to use that. Just walk away.Now, it's not every situation, you can just walk away. But just don't get into a confrontation.But also don't feel that you have to accommodate some of this madness because it is madness.I'd say that as a mental health practitioner, what's going on now with this transgenderism is lunacy. But I think that there's a danger in tackling it in a situation like this.Best if possible to just walk away.Yeah, yeah. We'll finish off on the same topic but on freedom of speech, journalistic expression.This is a story in the Telegraph on the National Union of Journalists, who are of course the bastions of free speech and journalism.Fears for free speech after journalist union refuses refuses to defend gender-critical members and it's that Britain's leading journalistic union has rejected calls to defend members who cover trans issues and gender-critical beliefs. The National Union of Journalists was called upon at a meeting to issue a statement supporting members who covered the debate on sex and gender and to condemn abuse that they might receive for discussing gender. A gender-critical viewpoint is just a normal gender, that's just how it is. But they refuse to do it. And I guess it's, we've seen the capitulation of our media anyway over the last three years, but there is an absolute, as you said, I think a fear of the trans lobby. But again, you do expect a union to come and back you. Maybe this is why the Workers' England Union are needed so much. So I'll leave that to you, Niall.
Yes, so certainly journalists if you have any concerns about the various woke agendas that are going on that you may profoundly disagree with, this is a clear message from the National Union of Journalists. They are not going to stand up for you. So yes, come and join the Workers of England. There's nothing to stop you joining an independent union that isn't tied to the establishment and to the official narratives like the NUJ is.Alongside that story, Peter, there's a school teacher who's been dismissed for refusing to use a pupil's transgender pronoun.So we really are getting into sort of Maoist cultural revolution kind of atmosphere now.And I reckon that it's going to get a lot worse before it gets better.But my hope is that this woke onslaught will eat itself.You know, that they'll cause so many schisms and such conflict with among themselves that they will, that we can just sort of, you know, enjoy the show and get the popcorn, but I think that the heat is going to be turned up quite a lot before we get to the point where we can see it coming to an end.It will come to an end, just like Mao's cultural revolution came to an end in China, but they had something like 12 years of that, and a lot of people died, a lot of people were persecuted during that time and what we've got now is persecution, you know, when people are hounded out of their jobs, prevented from getting any other work, they are, you know, portrayed on the media as being some, you know, diabolical person who everyone has to stay away from.I mean this is like the witch hunt hysteria of the 16th, 17th centuries.Yeah, no, it really is. Well, I think on that, we will finish up.The viewers can obviously, our listeners can find Neil, his handle is there @Dr_Neil_McRae, with two underscores.So it is there on Gab.Do go and make use of Gab, as do we. We post all the videos on Gab.So it is a wonderful social media platform and was free before Musk ever thought of having freedom, supposedly.We'll not even get into that. But Dr. Niall McCrae, thank you as always for joining us.
Thank you. It's a pleasure to be on. And sorry about the glitches earlier, but we got there in the end.
We always get there at the end, so no problem at all. But I wish our viewers and listeners a wonderful rest of your Saturday, rest of your weekend, whatever you're doing. Have a wonderful time on Sunday. Take some time off your normal work schedule. I say that to me as well as I say to you and on Monday we'll be back with you with Dr Peter McCullough will be with us on Monday evening so tune in for that. And on that, have a wonderful evening and we'll see you Monday.

David Atherton - Forced Marriages, Immigration Madness and the Never Ending Grooming Gang Arrests

David Atherton is a journalist and broadcaster and a prolific tweeter. His regular updates and commentaries on the clash between Islam, our Western freedoms and the impact of uncontrolled immigration have made him a voice of reason. He joins us to discuss the latest grooming gang trial that is simply the latest of regular instalments of an ongoing attempt to punish these Muslim Pakistani rape gangs. And with the BBC now producing documentaries on forced marriages we need to ask what is the cost to our society of uncontrolled immigration. So join us this episode as David covers all of this and much more.David Atherton is a London-based journalist and broadcaster. He writes for 'The European Conservative', and a number of leading publications as well as being a regular on national TV and radio stations, as well as his popular Twitter account on social media.Follow Dave on Twitter: https://twitter.com/DaveAtherton20?s=20The European Conservative: https://europeanconservative.com/Interview recorded: 5.5.23To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/connect/Please subscribe, like and share!
Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with David Atherton, who I followed for many years @DaveAtherton20.And I think I started following him because of his exposure of the grooming gangs and willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with Tommy for what he is doing.Anyone who does that is a brave individual and seeks truth more than position or fame.So I think that was why, we haven't met before. So first time we met on the interview, always good fun doing it that way.You never know how things will go. We had a great conversation.We look into, obviously, some of the more recent cases of groups of Muslim Pakistani men who have been part of rape gangs going through the legal system and being prosecuted.All historic, but they're also more current. But this is historic the one we looked at from 2000 to 2006, 11 men jailed, or 11 men about to be jailed, being charged. Only three of them with the first name Muhammad. And we also look at the failure of the authorities to deal with this. Turning a blind eye, council leaders, police, politicians, all turning a blind eye. Basically not wanting a race war, a religious war. So we go into that and then we end up looking at immigration and how that is the, part of driver behind this, that clash that we have between Islam and the freedoms we have in the West and those from Islamic nations and that incompatibility that we are finding with the freedoms that we, have had, still have. So I know you'll enjoy David's expert thoughts on this as I have over the last few years.
 
And it's wonderful to have David Atherton with us today. David, thank you so much for your time.
 
(Dave Atherton)
Pleased to be here. Thanks a lot for the invite.
 
Not at all. I enjoyed following your Twitter feed that people can see there @DavidAtherton20 and they can follow that.So I wanted you on for a while, but sometimes things take longer than expected. But thank you for coming on. Before we get on to some of the topics that you have been posting on, could I ask you maybe just take a moment and introduce yourself to our viewers?
Yeah, sure. No problems. I spent most of my life in recruitment. So I've always had a real job, so to speak. And funny enough, it was when the smoking ban came in in 2007 that I becamequite politically active. I always had an opinion, but then I became politically active about trying to get it reversed, or at least amended to a certain extent. That took me into writing about it. I've got a lot of invites for TV and radio to defend smokers' rights. Last night I was on talk TV. That came up in conversation and it's still one of the things I talk about.And from then on, you know, I was asked by Raheem...
Kassam.
 
Yeah,
 
one and only Raheem
 
to write with a commentator, then he took me with him to Breitbart, and here we are today, journalist and broadcaster. So yeah, I can't forget Raheem's name. You picture him in the head there. So that's my background. And one of the things that I've, you know, I think politicians think far too short term. They want an instant fix, you know, to the problem so they can get re-elected. And they completely fail to see the world ahead of them. Where will mass immigration take us into the future? I'm not suggesting that all immigrants are bad, certainly not. The vast majority are perfectly decent people who make a contribution to this country. But unfortunately, there are certain sectors of the community that don't. And this needs to be pointed out, it needs to be discussed. But without being called gammon, racist, bigot all the time.
 
Yeah, that does come up. So, well, let's, I think the focus probably, and was our initial focus whenever we launched and then COVID tyranny all took over.But was on the culture clash that we see, the clash with Islam and our freedoms in the West, and the clash from other cultures that aren't suited to a Western lifestyle through all types of restrictions on freedom, restrictions on women's position, restrictions on right to choose and change religions, all of that. So that was certainly want to be our focus andthen we get thrown a COVID curveball and the focus. But one of your, maybe we'll start on one of the ones recently is this here, 11 men charged in Rochdale grooming investigation.And this is a story we see time and time again. I always have interested that the BBC covered this, but they didn't cover it.It's not a proper story to them. It's a, oh, we'll put it in the Manchester section.So it's not on their main, because they think 11 men getting arrested for rape, basically more or less weekly, isn't an issue.But this is between 2000 and 2006 at Greater Manchester.This is obviously a story that you see regularly and you report on regularly and highlight.Tell us about this.
 
Right, indeed.Right, well, obviously, you know, for 30 years, you know, Pakistani heritage, rape gangs, they were either protected, ignored, or covered up by the establishment, and by the establishment I mean by the Labour Party, social services, and local councils particularly, actually, will cover things up.Yeah, so what I'll do is I'll try and dig out a quote in the wake of the 2015 jailing of 22, Pakistani heritage rapists, where a moderate imam commented that they actually, local imams actually encouraged the girls, sorry, encouraged the men in the congregation to go out and rape white girls because they wore short-sleeved shirts and mini skirts and things like that. No, it actually says they deserve to be treated like filth. This was published in the Telegraph. This was published in the Telegraph. But anyway, moving on from here, one of the Greater Manchester Police.Rochdale's in the Greater Manchester Police Area.And the Greater Manchester people were put in special measures and Maggie Oliver fought valiantly to get these girls justice from the Greater Manchester Police.I think we have now turned a corner in the sense that the councils won't be allowed to get away with this.They're probably the main offenders, because the Labour Party, 90% of Muslims vote Labour.It's their core vote they don't want to lose. For example, Kim Ledbetter, the Batley and Spen MP, she spent her time talking about the Batley grammar school teacher.She was talking about Palestine in Parliament, you know?You know, what's that got to do, you know, what's that got to do?Because all her constituents are Muslims and they are, by and large, most of them are anti-Semitic. So I look upon this as a positive, positive thing.That girls, women now, obviously women now, are feeling bold and brave enough to go to the police.And report their past rapes and full marks to the police for actually following through and arresting these people and investigating the cases. So I look upon that as being quite positive now.And I must say, the people we have to thank for that, for keeping it in the public eye, are people like Tommy Robinson. I had no idea. I remember, I think it was 2007, I think, you know, Nick Griffin is not my cup of tea.He really is a genuine, foul, nasty fascist, you know.But, you know, when he was accused, when he was up in court, he was accused of citing racial hatred because he suggested that there were white girls being raped by Pakistani heritage men.And I thought, well, mate, you've really done it now, haven't you?You deserve every single year you get for that, mate.Oh, but you're right. Again, it was Tommy Robinson.I dismissed what he said at the time, it was 2006, 2007, whatever it was.But when Tommy Robinson formed the EDL and he brought it to our attention, There's a video of him from 2011 on BBC's Newsnight been interviewed by Jeremy Paxman, and he said the same thing in I thought, Tommy mate. You're gonna be in trouble, you know and then we move onto 2013 when the Xerof cell I mean God you're gonna give the guys full credit, practicing Muslim director of public prosecutions in the Northwest, he brought to trial the Rochdale rapists, and they were all jailed.And you've got to pay tribute to the guy. You've got to be fair here.He was the person, I think, who moved the Titanic around, or the ocean liner around.And it was not a figment of our imagination, and it moved on.And there was a Alexis Jay report of 2014, you know, really makes your hair curl.I'm surprised the government appointed a vi that was so blunt, so blunt about what was going on there.And there's an article also in the BBC that one of the local women who voted community leaders said that the whole of the community knew what was going on in Rotherham, but they turned a blind eye.The Imams, the Muslim establishment, the local councils knew exactly what was going on.They turned a blind eye.Yeah, we see that time and time. I will get on that in a bit, but two things pick up.One was, I love when you watch Tommy with someone who, I mean, Tommy is very much like Nigel Farage and that Nigel would be horrified to have the same sentence, but actually they're individuals who are Marmite and yet they are lovable characters.You put Tommy with someone and actually he's such an infectious personality that if you put someone who disagrees verbally, then if they give him 10 minutes after that, they would actually see him quite differently because he is a warm, hospitable, friendly person.And that goes in, and he's not doing it out of hatred, but he's doing it out of concern for country.
Sure. Well, he grew up in Luton, he went to school with other Pakistani heritage children.Some were his mates and some were nasty bullies and pieces of work, you know, who beat you up nicked your wallet and took your lunch money.You know, he saw some of the women who did marry some of the Asian men and they lost contact with their family, you know, they were forced to wear burqas and hijabs and what have you.He saw what cultural devastation that was happening.And it's all too difficult to mention publicly. I think what the government is doing here is, we talked about different cultures here.I think, I always like pointing out on Twitter, you know, I always like to ask the question, why do you think Britain is a relatively rich country and countries like Afghanistan and Pakistan and what have you are relatively poor countries?They can never answer the question. The answer is, we went through the enlightenment in the 17th century, whereby logic and facts and truth overrose superstition and religion. And it led us to free speech, free inquiry, and led to scientific and intellectual developments. And from 1215 Magna Carta, we believe in the rule of law. I've seen lots of Asian men turn around and say, If this was reversed, if white men were raping Muslim girls, they wouldn't bother going to the police.They'd go round mob handed and give the geezer a good spanking.You know, we want the rule of law, we want to go to the police, we expect the police to look into it for us, and justice take its course, you know, and that's how you get a civilised society.You know, their culture seems to be based around mob rule, you know, who's got the biggest baseball bat.Yeah, and with those 11 men, another aspect, I'm intrigued to know your specific thoughts on this, but out of the 11, three of them were of course with a lovely name Muhammad. Only three actually this time. But how, because I see it actually as probably even more of the religious influence.Because of Islam historically spreading by the sword, because of Muhammad having sex slaves, because that was the norm. So it very much being rooted in Islam but also the added view of women in a Pakistani culture context, but that is predominantly from an Islamic heritage.So how do you put, because again, I'm intrigued that, who's the home secretary, it wasn't, not Priti Patel, Suella Braverman, that she has talked about Pakistani gangs, Pakistani individuals, but yet is still afraid to use the word Islam.And I think everything should be on the table to have a proper discussion.
Well, indeed. Well, my analysis of the Pakistani-Asian Muslim community is 80% decent, moderate people.They might be a little bit more conservative than us. They might not be pro-LGBT.There was a survey done in 2016 where they found that 52% of Muslims in this country would like to see homosexual acts made criminalized and people jailed, 52 percent.But 80 percent, by and large, rub along, moderate, decent, some are actually quite liberal people.What you got from there on is the 20 percent extremist nutters or whatever you want to call them. And unfortunately, from what I can see of the Islamic community, is the 20 percent tail wags the 80% moderate dog.You know, I was reading about a mosque in Glasgow, there was a battle between the moderates and extremists. And of course, the extremists won. And they won by going around and physically intimidating people and beating them up and things like that, you know. And, you know, you carry on your campaign, we're going to do you sort of attitude. So the problem we have is, is this permeates throughout throughout the whole religion. For example, to give you an example, from the Bible, Leviticus says something along the lines of, man shall not lie down with a woman as he does with a man.It's an abomination.So the Bible is full of quotations about justifying slavery, justifying killing gay people and what have you.We ignore it. We come from the Enlightenment and we believe what goes on in the home, privacy in your own home and club or whatever, is your business, not religions or the states.Now with the Koran, from what I can work out, is, do you know what I mean by abrogated or unabrogated?
 
Yep, yep.The later verses override the earlier verses, the violent verses override the peaceful, which is a real bummer for Muslims.
 
Sure, indeed, yeah.Well, indeed, yeah. From what I can work out, the Koran in its current form will never be abrogated, it will never be changed, it will not have new interpretations or things ignored.It is the final word of God and has to be done to the letter down to the last full stop.You know, it can't be changed.And the Qur'an says that us Kafirs, us infidels, are second-class citizens.It is quite straightforward in saying that you can do what you like to people who are non-Muslims.Because it's written in our book. And that includes rape, slavery, and everything else.And until you convert to Islam, you have no choice but to pay, at the best pay extra taxes.Jizya I think they call it, don't they? And so this is what we're up against. It's a fund, you know, the minority of fundamentalists who rule the public space on Islamic spaces. And, you know.The government knows that. Did you see Robert Jenrick's, Jenrick speaks recently, comments?
No, no.
 
Okay, the immigration minister. He said the far right, oh blimey.The far right is something we should not, we should listen to, some of the far right, excuse any paraphrasing here, should be listened to and not private or made private or marginalised.And he actually said, these people who had different cultures to us.No, he sounded like Tommy Robinson on an average day.
Right, it's amazing how terms are used and never defined and that's where the confusion, but actually just another spot, of course, if we had an issue with Orthodox Jews running around killing and raping on the basis of Leviticus or something then that would be an issue, but you're right that doesn't happen. It is the problem with Islam and the understanding the basis does seem to be historically in Islam. But this is another, and this is an issue I think my frustration and anger is against the Muslim Pakistani community but also is against the English system. And here your story, Rouhan Adil when age 15 filled himself raping a schoolboy, shared photos of paedophiles online and the police found hundreds of pictures, and he got sentenced to 28 months detention in a young offenders institution of which he will serve half because that's what happens to those who rape children. So he will serve just over a year and I'm amazed that the English legal system thinks that raping children is punishable by a one-year sentence. That's where I think we've got, because if the sentences were huge, if people were locked away for life, then actually that would be a deterrent.A year isn't really a deterrent, is it?
No, it's not. No. Um, someone, someone like that should be in jail for what he's like.You probably take his age as mitigation.I would have given him five, six years. personally speaking. If he was 18 at the time I would have given him...10, 15 years if I've been the judge. And also as well, you know, I really, maybe I ought to do some research, maybe some research here as well, but I always get the impression white people get treated more harshly than the Asian people. I just get this impression, you know, when you were abused multiple times, you know, a 13 year old girl, you know, maybe literally hundreds of of times. There was a one about the greater Manchester which I've forgotten her name now.But she had 177 Asian names, I say Asian, it's interchangeable with Pakistani heritage.And she had 177 names on her phone and she went to the police. You know, her mother went to the police to report it. And they did absolutely nothing. You know, when you're being gang raped by 177 people or possibly up to 177 people and you're 13 years of age, that is 20 years in prison, at least. And, you know, if you're coming out in 10 years, I'll probably give you 30 years for that as well. You know, I don't know whether the judge is being culturally sensitive or whether they think the girls were, to a certain extent, culpable for the wrong behaviour? I don't know.It is just completely unacceptable. And also, one thing I noticed as well, a lot of them get let out a lot earlier as well.There's one guy who was given 20, he was a gang rape leader who was given 20 years, he was let out after five.You know, I just don't know how this is going on. And I'll tell you what, you know.When they do come out of jail, they still don't think they've done anything wrong, some of them anyway.Maybe a majority still think we haven't done anything wrong.
Well, that's this. So I wonder, actually, and I'm I'm not someone who is for capital punishment.I believe that life is sacrosanct. So I set that aside.But I do think that actually jail has to be a deterrent, but it has to be rehabilitation.And if someone has not been rehabilitated, then I don't see how they can be let back into society. So I actually think if you cannot, if you do not know whether someone will actually not carry out raping children once again then I think they can be released and that means they need to be held until it can be said that actually they're no longer a danger to society.
 
Although they should go through physical or chemical castration.
 
Yep, yep, yep.I think it has to be looked at and how the conversation to the British public because it's to let someone, we've, the legal case we have been involved in with Liz. I mean, her perpetrator, rapist, was in the open prison after something like three years.Ready to be released. An open prison where you're free to come and go and the individual is raping children. It doesn't connect at all.
 
That is not a punishment. No, that is not a punishment.You know, for example, date rape, for example, you know, assume there's sort of two Europeans, you know, involved in date rape. You know, he said, she said sort of type of thing.Most get five, six years for that. That's two adults. I don't want to be a rape apologist or whatever and minimise the crime.But you know, there's obviously some degree of cooperation, as it were, obviously went back to somebody's place.And, you know, of course the geezer deserves five, six years.But, you know, when you're doing that, you know, you're feeding a 12, 13 year old alcohol and drugs and you're your mates are coming around and, you know, in some dirty little flat above a kebab shop, you know, that's got to be as far worse, worse crime, you know?
Yeah, yeah. I want another video you'd reposted was about Oldham, council leader.So let's play this lovely individual. I've just had local elections, but really if you're a UK viewer, you get what you put in. And if you don't go and vote, don't engage, then actually you get individuals like this who are happy for children to be raped but let's just play this 30 second clip.Let me play it
 
oh bless Emily
 
I know let me play her...
 
(video plays)
Our publication of that report two weeks ago, I spoke to a number of victims and they came forward and rang me that week the victims that were referenced in the report but also other victims of CSE and Oldham and speaking to those people and how it has affected their lives. You can't say it's destroyed their lives because the people I spoke to, it hasn't, but it has had an impact into adult life.
Oh, well, that's rape apologist.
 
It hasn't, it hasn't destroyed their life?And the thing I can't get around is, if you are men, women will obviously were built differently, I will not even to get into the gender conversation.But I thought as a woman that she, when she saw the stories, when she met with these girls that she would be horrified because, and yet she seemed to say, being raped as a child does not destroy your life.Where do you go with that? Whenever that's what our politicians believe.
You know, it's an overused cliché, mic drop time, you know, but, I'm sorry, that is just so offensive and revolting and disgusting.You know, it really renders me speechless on this one. You just, you know, what the hell are you saying, darling? You know, you know.To my mind, you know, if I was Keir Starmer, I'd suspend her for that.And make her come out with a full apology. I've got an idea for a letter. Thank you very much for that one, Peter.You know, you cannot say that. I believe she has slightly retracted that.One of one of her fiercest critics on Twitter, Roger, I think his name is.She has backtracked on that to a certain extent, but really, she should be banished from polite society for the rest of her career for that.She should not be holding any positions of power or authority.She should retire. She should be suspended. should be fired and disappear into the distance and never heard of again.If only, I think probably Sir Keir Starmer will get down on his knee instead to the to the rapist and that's what his response seems to be to crime. This was interesting, you'd put this post up and it's looking at the crime index for cities in Europe and you said does anyone see a correlation?Now, I do see a correlation, and actually number 20 doesn't come in there, which is number 20 is Brussels, which is, of course, 30, is it 30% or 35% is Islamic.And then we've got the beautiful city of Bradford there in the UK at the top and all in between.But to me, actually, it connects the dots of mass immigration, changing cities, and also very high Islamic populations, and our politicians are wondering, why is crime going up?
 
Sure, absolutely. You know, we're back to cultural differences here, whereby we, one of the reasons I believe Europe has, and America has advanced so much, is we've learned to cooperate at a non-family level.The reason, you know, the Middle East and parts of Asia, that the reason they employ a family because they're the only people they can trust. I'm sure we all nick pens and elastic bands from work, but we'd never think of defrauding the company of a substantial amount of money.Most employees in this country want to do the best for their company because they get a pay rise and things like that. We've amongst ourselves at a business level and it's worth to a certain political level as well have learned to engage with each other and just trust each other. Now it's one of the reasons why in Scandinavia that the government spend so much of their money because the people actually trust their government and the civil servants to spend their money properly.But we've learned cooperation. That's the reason why places like Somalia and Afghanistan and Pakistan and places like that, they're always fighting each other. It's clan warfare. They haven't learned to cooperate as a society.
Obviously this is a conversation that politicians don't want to have and you see snippets of it, certainly with the grooming gangs, with the rape gangs you see papers putting it out, as a story I remember the Daily Mirror I think did a massive like 18-month investigation in Telford, they put out a story and it seems to be more entertainment than actually solving an issue, it's simply they get an exclusive story, they're happy to talk about rape on their front page and a couple of pages inside, it maybe does it for a day or two, and then it moves on to whatever.Coronation or the weather or something else. And I'm wondering, I mean, are you more positive that actually we will address this as a society? Because these cases, they're still happening more or less every other week.
 
I believe we are actually in the present sense, we are addressing it to a certain extent. I had a guy from LBC in touch with me a couple of weeks ago, and he wanted to do a piece on grooming gangs. And put me in touch with a couple of people and did a five-minute segment for the Nick Ferrari show. So I was able to point him in the right direction. You mentioned the Daily Mirror there and the BBC are covering it to a certain extent. I think they have no choice.This is where social media, particularly Twitter and Facebook, have done such a good job, and GETTR, that you can actually go out there and report on it and let people know.And so I look upon that as a positive sign here. But the thing about the BBC, and what I noticed about the LBC report, and probably Sky as well.
 
And GB News have touched on it as well, I know Charlie Peters has.
GB News is quite different. I'll leave GB News to one side if I can.But if you look at the Sky News articles and the LBC article and Daily Mirror article, they talk about grooming gangs, but they don't talk about the ethnicity.You notice that?They don't say, oh, well, you know, well, this needs to be disproportionately, you know, Asian or whatever.They don't mention it. Let's go to the story of how they were raped and what have you.GB News is quite, and Talk TV to a certain extent, are really quite different.When I was on Talk TV last night, I mentioned I got into broadcasting from Defending Smokers' Rights. We had somebody from Ash actually not smoking a health one last night, and it was the first time she's had three people who were against her and disagreed with her. You get on the BBC and ITV like I've done, you know, even the cameraman hates you know, you know, and this is, you know, I've been in touch with Charlie on a couple of matters. And I get the impression he's a genuine guy who wants to do good. And it's really the fact he will go out and call spades, spade shovels and things like that, and tell it how it is. I think it's great news to GB News' credit, and to him personally. You know, and Talk TV, you listen to some of the phone-ins, some of the phone-ins on Talk TV. And so, you know, they know that if you want the screen to light up with phone calls, we're going to talk about immigration today, you know.I don't know if you've seen it, but Talk TV, they've got this screen and there's a room for about 100 phone calls or something like that. And when there's somebody waiting to come on hold, you know, it lights up. And I imagine it'll be great if the whole screen goes white, you know. And I can't believe, you know, some of the language that some of the callers use that go on unchallenged. I'm really, really quite impressed, actually.We've been invaded. They're changing our culture. They don't fit in. I don't think their religion is what we're looking for in this country. I can't believe how much free speech is allowed these days. I think that has changed in that narrative as well. And where I think these people got their ideas was from social media. For example, I was chatting to a producer last night, a presenter of Talk TV, and he said, well, I've never heard of Dave Atherton, how come he's got 58,000 followers? He's not a celebrity, which is true. It's true, isn't it? I got it simply because I've covered immigration on Twitter. That's the reason I've got so many followers.I've been nobbled by Twitter. I posted a Halal slaughter. I put a sensitive marker over it.I didn't go out as it was. Some lefty reported me and now I'm completely nobbled. My impressions are down 80% now. I'm trying to get that reversed. I've tried and I've tried. Anyway, that's by the by. If I had been nobbled, I'd probably have 70,000, 80,000 followers by now. I can just about maintain it at 58,000. The point I'm making here is I think social media and particularly Twitter was crucial in getting the message out and you know that people could see for themselves what was going on.
 
No completely and you have those numbers because people want news and they find you're putting it out so where else do they go? I want to end on one or two of the immigration stories but when you talk about people phoning in and being angry at what immigration has done and the change. And this is one of them. This is Yasmin Mohammed. Very good in what she does. And this is a video of her. I think it's her talking about forced wedding when she was at her forced wedding, she was so disassociated. She didn't really know what was happening and crying and talk about the trauma, the millions of women. And then Emily talks here about the BBC touching on, I think BBC do it for entertainment, but anyway, the forced marriage unit nowadays is over a thousand cases a year. And I would actually love the government to actually go and focus where this is, because I remember just one, I remember my older son in his class, they had a special class, none of the parents were told, and it was about FGM. So I've got my child, my boy being told about it, what has that got to do with him absolutely zero one it should be the girls and two should be the girls from Islamic backgrounds or Asian backgrounds where it happens, like Somalia where it's what 90% or whatever but the,It seems as though our government is wasting resources because they're so scared to be called racist or Islamophobic.
Well, they could have stopped FGM in one fell swoop by prosecuting both parents and sending them to jail.You know, it's a case of, you know, you can't make an omelette without cracking some eggs.You know, I'm sorry, if there's got to be five or six parents who've got to go to jail for allowing their daughters to be FGMed. So be it. If they've got to go to care while they're in jail, so be it. Because that would stop at one fell swoop, FGM in this country. And another thing we need to do is, we've got to stop chain migration.Get the mother-in-law in as well, that kind of thing. Also, I think we should, it was Saeed, the Times journalist, Matthew Saeed. He's of Pakistani heritage. He's suggesting that cousin-cousin marriages should be made illegal. And you have to stop, you know, arranged marriages from Pakistan. That has to stop.
And you wonder why it's not illegal already. That's the scary thing.Yeah, I think when it comes to genetic births, genetic deformities from birth, 38% come from the Pakistani heritage community. It should be stopped. I'm sorry, arranged marriages are now finished. You can't have any more. I'm pretty sure this needs to be fact-checked. But I still think even in arranged marriage that there are basic requirements for the English language. If there are not, you can't speak English, you can't have a conversation in English, you're not allowed to come into this country.You know, basically, you know, I think something like 59% of marriages in Bradford are with cousins. And it's basically to keep the wealth into the family. That's the reason they do it.And actually, one of the Islamic sects, Tablighi Jamaat, 80 million, I think, out of New Delhi.And actually, in those marriages, actually, the woman does not even attend her own wedding, because she's a woman. So her father attends the wedding on her behalf. She has zero right.And that is the same in the UK for typically up in Dewsbury.That's typically the amount and the government could stop that in an instant.
Sure. I know. But you know what will happen, won't you? You know, if we clamp down on in any shape or form, they know they will be out on the streets, you know, vandalizing stuff and being violent. They're going to have to send the riot police in, possibly even the army.No Home Secretary wants to do that, so they appease them. I'm pretty sure you saw the Wakefield 14-year-old boy who's scuffed at Koran. By the way, the people from the mosque, went knocked on her door and threatened her.You know, and, you know, and they obviously the boy, the autistic boy had death threats.And she thought the only way to get out of this is go to the mosque, put a silly veil over her head and, you know, prostrate herself.And did you see the audience?
No, no, I missed that. I didn't see no.It was packed to the rafters of middle age and elderly Asian men sitting sitting cross-legged on the floor. Talk about intimidating, intimidating environment, you know, and she had a grovel and apologize and things like that. The thing that really, really stuck in my craw was the chief inspector for the West Yorkshire Police there condoning everything that had happened, you know, because he knows if he'd gone after the people who threatened the autistic boy, you know, the whole of the community will be after him. Whole of the community will be be after West Yorkshire police. This is violence and intimidation, which one day we will pay the price. We've got two ways of going here. We're going to have to go through a period of civil unrest, or we're all going to have to bend the knee to Sharia law. There is no middle ground here. There's no compromise. There's a guy, his surname is Salih, and he heads up the Five Pillars Fundamentalist media site.And people on Twitter were saying, oh, isn't it wonderful that these Muslims are going into Christian churches and preaching and things like that.And someone asked him, well, can you ever see a Christian priest, a vicar or priest being allowed to go to a mosque? And he put one word. Never.It's always one way, it's always one way. But no, you're, I just, one, I think on the FGM and then we'll finish on immigration, but the FGM, I actually think that it's not just actually children should be in care for a while while the parents are in jail.Actually, the children should be taken away. It is better for the children not to be cut up with knives and blades.So whatever the alternative is, is better than child abuse.So I think they should be completely removed. And if that means thousands of children removed from families. But you're right, it will be riots, religious race riots, everything will get burned down. They'll accuse the Home Secretary of, I don't know, folding the page of a Quran, and therefore they can kill her. We see what happens across the world. So yeah.
Well, absolutely. This is one of the reasons the government is so pathetic and weak, is they fear the civil unrest repercussions.
Well, let's end up on immigration. There are a load of different stories, but this, I thought this was Noah's Ark, but no, it's not Noah's Ark, it's the immigrant ark.Barge to house 500 male migrants off Dorset Coast, says government, and this was last month.But it gives you an idea of what we're facing, because when the government said they were going to house migrants on boats, I thought they were just taking the mick, but no, this thing has come on.They'll need maybe a hundred of these, but 500 male migrants will be housed in this barge, poor people in Dorset that will see this. And it's coming in the coming months.And the vessel, which is currently in Italy, to break from Italy, there must be only one vessel in the world that can host them, but it will be significantly cheaper than hotels.Obviously, if we need to bring boats from Italy to put people in who are illegally coming in the country, we have a problem. And yet, the government don't seem to want to address the problem. They're just going to get barges. And I guess we'll have hundreds of these off the coast.
 
Sure. It's sticking plasters rather than cures, isn't it? And until, well, the long-term solution for this is, we need to go to maybe an American style of public administration, whereby the top civil servants are appointed by the government.That doesn't seem to work that badly, in a sense.So what happened was, six migrants had had enough of Britain, and they got back on the ferry to go back to France. And they were dragged back by the police and brought back to Britain.Because the permanent second, yeah, this is the reason why, the permanent secretary, Matthew Rycroft, or one of his officials, they have a gentleman's agreement with France.They won't return people.And so when Suella Braverman was told by a civil service, we can't send them back.To my mind, Rycroft should have been fired on the spot. But any civil servant, if he doesn't have the authority, primary legislation should be done in a day for that to be done.Three line whip, 80 majority, whatever it is. We have the right to hire and fire anybody in the civil service.And anybody who was in the way should be fired on the spot, over you go.And I'm sorry, Macron, I'm sorry, this might sound a little bit over the top, but if we're returning migrants back to France and they didn't need a Royal Navy escort, so be it.You know, I'm sorry, to my mind what Macron is doing, this is a punishment beating for leaving the EU. And quite frankly, Macron can learn how to behave like a civilised human being, or he needs to be taught. And I'm sorry, I think longer term, there is an existentialist threat to this country from terrorism and other social ills, which in five years' time we'll be bitterly regretting what we did.And this needs to be addressed immediately and with robust matters.And quite frankly, if the whole of the Home Office needs to be fired and we've got to start from the beginning again, so be it.It has to be done. And if we've got to find volunteers to man the border force boats.And also as well, one of the first things I would do if I was Home Secretary, the RNLI, the Royal National Lifeboat Institute, have... what's the word I'm looking for? If due to their actions somebody dies, they can't be accused of corporate manslaughter.They have no legal immunity from what they do. And the first thing I would do is I'd take that legal immunity away.And so if you do make a mess of things, you're going to jail for corporate manslaughter.And that would stop the RNLI boats a split second. Also, these are practical short-term solutions.And so you look, the people in the Border Force, you're staying in port. I'm sorry.We can go out to France, you go to the camps, you hand out leaflets saying, we're not going to pick you up anymore.And that's the end of the thing. And I'm sorry, Macron doesn't like that, too bad mate.
Well, let's end just on a picture, which kind of connects with the RNLI, although I don't think Macron can behave like a grown up.I think that's impossible, but I'll let you keep your fingers crossed, David.This was a lovely, lovely poster. 80 years ago, we stopped an entire German army crossing the English Channel.Now we can't stop an effing dinghy. Love it. That is through the RNLI, which have become basically a...Do you want to, for our non-UK viewers, for US viewers, do you want to just let them know what the RNLI is and what it's become?
Right. Yeah. The Royal National Lifeboat Institute is a civilian fleet of boats, which is entirely paid out of charitable organizations, and the people are volunteers, but the chief executive earns 180,000 pounds a year, whilst the people who are risk their lives on the sea barely get their expenses covered.They have to give up work, they live self-employed, they lose money.And if they get a 999 call equivalent to a 911 call, they're expected to drop what they're doing, jump in the boats, and rescue the people concerned.In fact, there was actually one guy who was getting married and he got a bleep, but just as he was about to put the ring on her finger, but he had to go.So I believe also there are quite a few RNLI people who actually resigned in protest, over being sent out to pick up migrants in the middle of the sea. It might be 10%, but it is.But the whole point is, like in America, we have this woke culture, the ESG woke type culture, whereby Professor Matthew Goodwin reckons about 16% of the population, the sort of the degree-educated people, you know, the bon passant thinking people, you know, who believe in ultra-liberal policies.And there's nothing at the moment us plebs can do about it, despite the fact that 85% of people oppose it. In Britain, something like 60-70% of people are opposed to immigration still, at the numbers and what have we. You know, the vast majority of people don't mind genuine refugees, you know, fleeing. We don't mind that. The Ukrainians is a good example. They are genuine refugees. But we really do object to all the people who are coming over here freeloading economic migrants. Oh, by the way, let me quote, I don't think I mentioned it, but in Sweden, A research company interviewed refugees who had been given asylum in Sweden because they were fleeing persecution, oppression, wars and what have you.They've asked the question, have you returned home at all?79% have returned home, gone back to their home country on vacation. 79%.You know, if that's not the biggest sign that, you know, the government are mugs, aided and abetted by the liberal and woke classes, and these people are pathological liars.I've just got, you know, chances, and what have we. I know you have to be stupid, naïve or a complete idiot.
Yeah. Well, on that, I think we'll finish up.
 
Before we go, Peter, can I just quote to you very briefly?I managed to find it as we've been talking.Here we are, yeah. I'll just quote you the attitudes that some Muslims have in this country.In 2018, seven men were jailed for raping and pimping out girls from the ages of 11 to 15.Dr Taj Hargey, the imam of Oxford Islamic Congregation, said it was, quote, "bound up with religion and race", adding, quotes, "In mosques around the country a different doctrine is teached" One that denigrates are women who treat whites with particular contempt."Men are taught that women are second-class citizens, little more than chattels or possessions over whom they have absolute authority." "Their dress code from mini skirts to sleeveless tops is deemed to reflect their impure and immoral outlook.""According to this mentality, these white women deserve to be punished for their behaviour by being exploited and degraded." End of quote.
 
I've seen some things that Tariq has put out and he does seem to be trying to highlight some of that, but it's wonderful.Well, it isn't wonderful, but it's good when you hear the community discussing the problem and hopefully others will wake up to that.Well, David, it's been good to meet you at long last. It happens regularly, but thanks for coming on.I know that if people are not following you they certainly can do, @DaveAtherton20 go and follow David on Twitter.

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(Hearts of Oak)Hello Hearts of Oak and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. I had the privilege of meeting Tom over in CPAC six weeks ago and we talk about many things. What Judicial Watch do is use freedom of information and I haven't seen it used so effectively as Judicial Watch do and Tom has been the president for 25 years and we go into a whole range of issues that, without Judicial Watch, the public would not be aware of the truth.So we go into Biden targeting Christians and an FOI that Judicial Watch have just put in on the FBI and they're targeting of Roman Catholic churches. Universities control from abroad. This is a story about a university receiving half a billion from Qatar. Is that good? Is that bad?And how does it influence the education sector. The growing power of the CCP, we look at CCP police stations in New York and you saw maybe six weeks ago there was an arrest of two people.Actually it was Judicial Watch that initially put in that FOI. Without their work you wouldn't have seen the arrest and the exposure of that. Election integrity, they put in many different FOIs in regards to states, and states have been forced to clean up their electoral rolls.They've just put an FOI on Trump raid records to reveal all of those. I think 8,000 records need to be revealed. Judicial Watch have put that in. Gain of function. Again, a lot of stuff has been exposed. Hunter Biden. There are so many issues which they address, and without them, these would not be exposed to the public. So Tom shares many of those stories and talks about how actually what they do can be used abroad and replicated because many countries around the world have an FOI system, certainly in the UK and Europe. And I think we need to be aware of what we can do as citizens and actually use the institution, the legal system that we have to force the government to account.So tune in, listen to Tom share his 25 years worth of experience heading up as President of Judicial Watch.And hello, Hearts of Oak. Today it is an honour to talk to the President of Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton. Tom, thank you for your time today.
 
(Tom Fitton)
You're welcome, Peter. Thank you for having me.
Not at all. And you can follow Tom on Twitter. All the handles are there on the screen, @TomFitton and judicialwatch.org, at @JudicialWatch on Twitter. And his latest book, just to give you an idea, published in 2020 is A Republic Under Assault, the left's ongoing attack on American freedom, which really addresses the deep state voter fraud, illegal immigration.And there's a lot packed into that. So I'd encourage our viewers after this, if they want todelve a little bit more deeply into some of the things that Tom has discussed, the book is available everywhere. Now, Tom, for our non-US viewers, could you maybe take a moment and introduce yourself before we get into the work of Judicial Watch?
 
Well, thank you, Peter, and I won't presume our fellow Americans here in the United States know who we are. So, we're a non-profit educational foundation. We're essentially a government watchdog group. We use often a law here in the United States, it's the bulk of our litigation, called the Freedom of Information Act, which is an open records law that allows federal level access to records. And of course, states do it as well. They have similar laws, so we sue there. So we've been able to uncover all sorts of records about corruption issues that the media isn't terribly interested in pursuing, the Congress is arguably incapable of pursuing, but the American people desperately want to know about.And one of the things we do is we represent whistle-blowers, those who've been victimized by the government for daring to blow the whistle on government misconduct, meaning government officials, and then of course the victims of government misconduct as well.And so in doing so, we not only advance the rule of law, but we educate Americans and and other concerned citizens across the world, frankly, about the importance of clean government, honest government, and transparent government.Well, I think just on you, one thing I read on your Wikipedia, which is always good fun to read, and that in 2022, researchers found that Fitton was the third most prolific purveyor of election misinformation on Twitter during the late months of 2020.That's quite a badge of honour, isn't it?
I was hoping for at least a silver medal. Well, the left is obsessed with depicting anything they dispute or hateas quote disinformation and of course, the communist left, which is on the rise here in the United States.They really like compiling lists. So I'm all sorts of lists that I'm sure they'll go to if they advance the revolution far enough along, to put me in jail or worse, but these are serious times and I'm half joking, but I, that book title is prescient, isn't it? Republic Under Assault. I often confuse it because I can, it sounds like a Star Wars movie title to me, but our Republic is under assault. And we have this constitutional system here in the United States that the left has decided is not convenient to them anymore. And so they've let folks who don't follow the rule of law and don't care about protecting the institutions that protect our Liberty, they're running the show for, in my view, an entire political party with the acquiescence, if not too often the allegiance of the other political party, the Republicans.On your website, and I've worked with FOIs here, we have a similar system in the UK, but how you have used them is on another level. I think on the, on your website the document archive section there are 27,000 documents. I mean that is a huge resource of information and it really is a window on government corruption that you've just made available to the public to use as they see fit.
Yeah, I don't, it would be difficult to overstate the nature of our work in terms of the scope in what we've been able to uncover. We have thousands of Freedom of Information Act requests, I could come up with a number which may or may not be correct, but it's thousands and it would be shocking if the actual number was certified for you. And I know it's hundreds of Freedom of Information Act lawsuits, so there's no one more, there's no one who does more litigation to uncover what the government's up to, not only here in the United States, but worldwide. And you know, I know it's this is more of an international audience is that, you know, we're kind of unusual here in the United States, given our work. Now, I'm pleased to say, because of our aggressive heavy lifting on FOIA, others now know about it as a way to get access to information. But it's relatively unique here in the United States to just have a group focused on uncovering and battling government corruption. And to me, it's a great testament. I know there there are a lot of issues here in America, but it's a great testament to the American way and our rule of law that allows a little Judicial Watchto go into court and the IRS or the State Department or the Treasury, FBI, DOJ, they need to go into court and answer to the court as to why they're not giving us documents and what they're withholding and justify it.And so that's a rarity here in the United States and I know worldwide, we just don't have that sort of accountability in a regular way. First of all, if you're doing it in most other countries, you face financial ruin, imprisonment, injury, death to you and your family potentially. And that's just in France.
 
Yeah. So true.
You know, the point is, even in Western Europe, they don't like civic society. That's the term I use. They call it the non-governmental sector, which to me is just so communist in approach.It's the government, everything else, the government has to justify its role as a sector.The NGOs don't need their own little sector.We should be running the show, non-government entities. But as you, and I don't need to tell you in the United Kingdom, there are just few independent civic groups.Usually they're either creatures of the government or of the parties.And so it's hard for them to get the traction we're able to get here in the United States.And you see when a few of them do get traction or when there's more of a populist movement, how vociferous the reaction is by the state there in Europe and frankly in Canada and elsewhere. So thank God for America but you know this is this is a more than just a third world problem government corruption it's a first world problem.
 
Yeah no completely and what you're doing shines a light on that and expose the things the government obviously don't want people to see.But maybe I could just go through some of the freedom of information that you have done that gives people an idea of your work and an idea what's possible and shows the failures of government and institutions. I think one of the most recent ones just a few days ago was Biden's targeting of Christians and Judicial Watch have just filed a Freedom of Information Act along with Catholic vote civil action against the FBI and the Department of Justice. Why on earth are the government spying on Christians.Well, if you're a leftist, it makes sense, right? The church is an enemy of the state, unnecessarily.Certainly the left's cultural agenda here in the United States, whether it be abortion or radical transgender extremism.And so the FBI, they know who butters their bread, and they follow or they come up with things that they think will appeal, to their political masters, who are the left.And one thing this agency did in Richmond, Virginia, so the FBI, for those of you not here in the United States, and those of you here in the United States may not know this, you've got the FBI headquarters, but the offices of the FBI, the Richmond office and the New York office, they're kind of their own fiefdoms as well.And so they're substantial in terms of their power and influence.And Richmond's and the Richmond office decided that, you know, traditionalist Catholics could, be attractive to the terrorists they want to monitor domestically.And I mean, it's really laughable, Peter. It's worth reading.Everyone should read it.It just shows you how out of control the government is and how stupid it is.They do an analysis under the guise of this intelligence threat assessment of Vatican II and the debates in the church about Vatican II.So do you want the FBI analysing those who support the Latin mass versus those who think we should have a mass in the everyday tongue of the country?It's just incredible.But what's frightening is the document also makes it clear that they want to get sources in the Church.So what they were planning was spying onto the Catholic Church, using them as, using these sources as tripwires, right, to get the bad guys who are too pro-life or too extreme in terms of defending children from mutilation and such. So, you know, you shouldn't have to go to your, go to mass or go to church. In this case, obviously, the Catholic Church was being specifically targeted, but every Christian should worry and wonder if your pastor or or your priest is spying on you and watching what you're saying, or whether your fellow parishioner that you shared a sign of the peace with is, is it informant for the FBI?And now, of course, the FBI and the Justice Department run from that document once it became disclosed as a result of a whistle-blower disclosure to a former FBI agent.But I'm not confident that they've stopped this type of approach and, indeed the fact that they haven't given us documents about this scandal suggests there's more to, hide. That's why we're in court.
Well, how does that spying on its own citizens and the understanding that being a conservative is somehow dangerous to society?Does that just happen as the FBI under a Democrat regime, or is it so ingrained, that hatred of conservatism, that actually that prevails whoever is in the White House?Oh, well, you know, the history of the FBI is one of an agency that is often used to either protect or target the enemies of the sitting president, and they don't need to be told to do it.They kind of, as I said, they instinctively know who butters their bread.But I think things changed a bit with Donald Trump.He came in, was seemingly hostile to virtually every institution in the country, the drain the swamp approach.And so they decided that he needed to be taken out. And so you had these mandarins in the FBI decide that they were going to be, and I think actually, I forget who mentioned it, referenced the Praetorian Guard of old.They started off as quote, defenders of the Republic, right?And instead they became their own power centre. And I think we're seeing that with the FBI and the Justice Department.I was looking at their budget documents the other day, 30, I think it's 35, 37,000 staff, 13,000, which includes 13,000 FBI special agents, you know, $10-11 billion budget, and, I suspect that's about the size of most countries' militaries.And they're not just checking out, you know, and when you've got a bureaucracy that big, they're not just looking for bank robbers.No, I can bet. One of the other recent, people can go up on the website, obviously, and see all the press releases and the many regular FOIs, but universities being controlled from abroad, and this was a document showing the Texas A&M, which is a university there, it appeared to to receive $500 million, that's half a billion dollars, in grants from Qatar regime.And that's something massively concerning. We've had concerns here in the UK about Chinese influence on our universities especially, but also there is money and influence coming from the Middle East that probably is opposed to anything you would want freedom-wise in your country.So tell us about that.Well, when you give someone $500 million, you usually want something.You either want recognition or something in the least, the most charitable interpretation is, you know, at the university level, major donors usually seek recognition or to advance a specific academic goal.And so the question is, what was the goal here? I think, again, what, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, look at this money, it's terrible.You know, you just can't draw a conclusion. Well, someone gave money a gift, therefore it's terrible.You have to see what the circumstances are.And here the circumstances are, it looks like there was underreporting of the amount that was given.And it also is only being disclosed after hard-fought litigation in state courts that went up and down the Texas courts against the Qatar Foundation, which is a front for the terrorist-linked regime there.And so, if everything was on the up and up, this would have been a straightforward request for information. Indeed, Texas A&M I don't think had any initial objection.We had to fight the government, the Qatar government in lawfare here in the United States.It was really quite incredible.And, to me, it's like an easy, it's easy pickings if you're a foreign government seeking the influence, you just give money to universities and such.And in the case of China, there's a kind of almost an inherent, there's a special interest group because forget about giving money directly through Confucius Institutes or whatever the latest version of their academic fronts are, but you have a half, let's say a half a million Chinese residents here in the United States going to school, most of whom are paying full tuition.So the universities all of a sudden become advocates for this, just potentially dangerous relationships that we develop with these foreign countries through our higher education system.
 
Another story that broke and I didn't realize that you had been involved in putting the FOI.
 
We're involved in everything.
 
Yeah, I get it. So we talked about the power of the CCP but actually the story broke I think a month ago and the headline was the Federal Bureau investigation misled and stonewalled Judicial Watch on legitimate public record requests involving illegal Chinese police station opening in New York. And then your FOI, actually the people who you had put that in about, they suddenly get arrested. That is really concerning that a foreign government would have a police presence in the US and it makes you wonder kind of what else else is happening. But that was, again, your FOI that you'd put in.Yeah, I mean, we, you know, the idea that there are police fronts operating in the United States is not a new issue. You know, the folks have noted it and it took forever and a day, it looks like, for the FBI to get on it. And, you know, we asked for the documents and we got the run-around or they pretended there was no issue and didn't have anything to give to us. But sometimes even a non-answer is, indicates government scandal and corruption, but think about having the goal to run a police agency, practically speaking, that not only targets Chinese residents who are foreign nationals here in the United States, but American Chinese citizens, American citizens of Chinese origin.What chutzpah? And but on the other hand, you have a regime that thinks low enough of the United States and has Biden evidently deep enough in its back pocket that they can send in a spy craft to attack our sovereignty and do figure eights with no repercussions, practically speaking, above our secure military installations in the heartland of our country.In the heartland of our country. You have to wonder, obviously, what the Chinese are concluding from our lack of seeming outrage, I wonder what all of our friends must think, too.They won't defend themselves. Well, how can we rely on them to defend us or to help us, if push comes to shove?
Completely, and that one you'd put in, again in the UK, we put in FOI and they come back and say the information is too difficult to obtain and then you can put another FOI, but you then go down the legal route. That's intriguing. You're not without teeth that you're using the legal system, you're not simply requesting according to what your statutory allowed to receive, you're actually then going to the court. So you have that threat and it's often that threat or actually you in the courtroom forces the government to release the information.Yeah that's true, it's actually going to court that often gets a response and you can imagine it's the United States government, it spends more money than mine is, so and the bureaucracy is huge so that their resting state is incompetence or refusal to comply with the law since, there's little accountability on that and the only way to get their attention is through a federal court case often. But that also has, you know, thankfully thanks to Judicial Watch's well-known record for going to court, other FOIAs sometimes do get responded to that otherwise wouldn't. For instance, we've done a ton of FOIAs on and lawsuits on on COVID, its origins, the vaccine, et cetera.And it was just a separate FOIA that wasn't a lawsuit, but they knew we were sniffing around and had similar lawsuits on the same issue, that just disclosed recently that the Fauci Agency was funding in China through EcoHealth Alliance, which is a third party, a front or a pass-through for grants, the creation of literal mutant coronaviruses, And that's a quote. Mutants.To see how or if they could infect humanized mice.I never thought to call gain of function viruses mutants, but it's a rather obvious point.And of course, our government's figured out that's what they are too.And they've been lying to us about what they've been doing for years.And the conclusion from that, which to me is, to me, this is some of the biggest, the most important material, Peter, at least on this issue we've uncovered, it helps explain why there was this fanatic desperation to discount the lab leak theory.Because if it was, quote, a leak from a lab, and I don't know why we presume it was a leak if it came from a lab, it was either a natural virus in the lab that got out somehow, or it was an engineered virus.And what was the technique for engineering it, And what was the set of viruses that were engineered?Well, the answers to those two latter questions are it was the United States.And the gain-of-function technique was a US biological approach that we shared and exported to China.So, this COVID origin story isn't just about what the Chinese were doing, in my view.And that shows, because many conservatives have had big concerns at the government's role, institutions' role within that.But it's one thing to have concerns and suspicions, it's another thing to have the documentary evidence.Going through your FOI seems time and time again that you're providing the evidence to back up what the suspicions that have been there over time, but most other people are not doing that. It's you that are going in and actually delivering on the hard facts for the issues.Yeah, I know a lot of folks who have conspiracy theories, what is derided as, what are derided as conspiracy theories, and my view is actually the truth is usually worse than the conspiracy theory. It's worse once you know what they actually did, and it's usually folks with the conspiracy theories, they're usually in the right ballpark, but they've got the specifics and the mechanisms and the people involved wrong, and sometimes the motivation's wrong, but their suspicions generally are correct. Something went wrong with the way the vaccines were manufactured. That process was politicized and is untrustworthy, and how it was pushed out and information about the issues related to the vaccine were handled. Something went wrong about the vaccine, excuse me, the coronavirus and its origins. There was reason to suspect that what we were being told wasn't true. Or we should at least examine all sorts of possibilities, as opposed to just pretending some questions are you're not allowed to ask. I mean, this is the craziness of these days, Peter. It's not even saying this happened, or I believe this happened. You're not even allowed to ask the question.And I tell you, the wonderful thing about FOIA is we get to ask those questions.
Well, we find, yeah, that's an area you don't touch on. And another area you don't touch on, which you've talked about, another, we're told, is a conspiracy, is election integrity.And that's also because we've seen some lawsuits going in favour of actually cleaning up the system within states.But one of the FOIs you'd put in was in Colorado. And it's, the statement was, Judicial Watch announced that Colorado's Secretary of State agreed to settle a lawsuit alleging that Colorado had failed to remove ineligible voters from its rules. As part of a settlement, Colorado, I love this, will report to Judicial Watch on its yearly progress in cleaning up its rules for the next six years.I love that they have to answer to you, but that's a state-by-state issue that needs to be addressed, and that's one state that you then had a victory on, and I guess that has to happen state-by-state.
Yeah. Well, and we've been successful state by state. And that's not the FOIA. That's not Freedom of Information Act. That's a law that allows, under federal law, aggrieved parties to sue states and localities that aren't taking reasonable steps to clean up the voter rolls.And I think this translates internationally. If you have a list of people who are eligible to vote, you should make sure that list is as accurate and up-to-date as you reasonably can, because it invites fraud, right, if oh so-and-so moved and died or died I'm still getting their ballot or I know their their name is on the list I'm gonna vote in their name or do something other than something else nefarious which is why the law requires the list to be cleaned up it's not just Tom Fitton being worried that's the reason the laws there otherwise why would you have it, and of course at the federal level the leftist running the Justice Department have little interest in cleaning up voter rolls because I believe certainly here in the United Statesand I'm not naïve that both political sides, both sides of the aisle are often tempted to mess with election results.But they don't want cleaner elections here in the United States.And I think it's because, because I can't think of any other reason.They oppose voter ID, they oppose cleaning up the rolls. They want to expand the idea of voting from one day, through entire months.They want unsupervised voting, which is the way to think about mail-in balloting.And that's something that no one else does.And I don't like the point to say, oh, no other country does this, because usually most every other country does things wrong.But I don't think any sensible person thinks that having millions of ballots be mailed out, and people filling those ballots out And just mailing them back is any way to run an honest election.No completely, and I know we-
 
And necessarily undermines confidence in the election system.Even if people participate in it, they realize, boy, how do they make sure no one is being intimidated when they vote?How do they make sure no one is, that the actual voter who sends the ballot in is who the person says they are?Oh, if they collect ballots, how do we know those ballots are collected properly and there's certifications about their origin?there was no intimidation in the collection process. None of that is, practically speaking, checkable under the new systems that were set up under the pretext of the COVID pandemic.
Completely. Well, I know we often look to the States for hope here in Europe, but we just had an election and maybe one thing the US can learn from the motherland is that we actually do paper ballots. It's all counted on the one day and we don't use any voting dominion systems and it's it's all done and dusted and by 3 a.m. the next day you've got a result.
 
Yeah I mean and there's no excuse for the United States not to be able to do that. You know people say well the United States a bigger country. Well we don't run elections nationally, it's state by state. So there's no reason any major state in this nation can't figure out who won on election day.And we've also had another breakthrough where they now require voter ID so the left have realized it's not actually racist to ask someone for ID so we've had another breakthrough.
 
Well it's funny you know the left used to not like vote by mail because it used to be used by elderly republicans to vote.And then they decided they liked it. And everyone used to understand vote by mail was a kind of a recipe and invited voter fraud until it became politically, until they realized well we kind of like that so let's do more of it.
 
One of the other big things has been that the Trump raid records and I know you put down FOI and I think last month you'd said that you'd, they had released, the National Archives had released 1,200 pages of 8,000 records about that unprecedented raid. Tell us about that because it's vital that the American public know what was behind that, the reasons, the conversations, and I guess that will be another case of you then going to court to force those release off the other what six and a half thousand documents.
Well, let's take a step back here, Peter. Back in, it was like 10, 12 years ago, we found out that Bill Clinton had tapes of recordation's of his conversations with foreign leaders and members of Congress that he kept after he left office.Right? And we thought, well, isn't that a presidential record?You know, I don't need to explain, practically speaking, what that might mean.Talking to foreign leaders typically are, you know, those talks are almost always classified inherently.And we went to court and the Justice Department and the National Archives, which is the federal bureaucracy that handles presidential records, their preservation and such, they came to us and said, no, we can't, you can't force us to get these records.And the court said, you have to defer to the president.He gets to decide what's personal and what's not.And the Justice Department in a court hearing said, you know what, if he has records after he leaves the Oval Office, they're presumptively personal.So compare and contrast that with their new position, 180 degree difference, with President Trump.And so the same archives that went out of its way to protect Bill Clinton's right to keep whatever records he wanted, conspired against President Trump to try to nail him on this records dispute criminally.And, you know, it's basically a civil matter, even if it is a dispute and there's a basis for it.And now they don't want to tell us that, because to get the records, it's all about transparency, right? We got to know what the president was doing.Well, now we don't, they won't tell us what they were doing to go after the president.And to take a step further back, I'm kind of getting a little bit in the weeds there.But and in America here, the political media class, they like to talk about this as if it's serious and important. No one buys it.I mean, I tell you.There isn't a foreign leader who doesn't look at what America is doing and say, okay, the current president, his agencies are trying to jail the former president, and his number one opponent in the presidential campaign. They don't need the details.They don't need the, oh, oh, but this is why it's important. This is, this is the terrible crime.They see through it and they see America that's no better than anyone else internationally in the way they are supposed to follow the rule of law. And I think it's a terrible national security and international embarrassment to the United States because now our moral, you know, the moral weight we could throw when we talk about the concerns about having fair elections and accountable government and consent to the government. Well, all that's out the window.They're trying to jail Trump simply because he opposed the wrong people here in Washington, not because of any personal misconduct. And Putin and Xi and, you know, frankly, Macron and whoever the current office holder is in Downing Street, that changes, I know, every three months.
 
It does. It's Rishi Sunak today, but who knows who it will be tomorrow.
You know, they see what's happening in the United States, and they also recognize that attitude is there in their home countries. I mean, there isn't a major politician in any Western country that doesn't sit there because of the lack of rule, because of this contempt for consent of the government that doesn't sit there at the the sufferance of the deep state.
Which is, in my view, transnational in nature in terms of their attitude.It doesn't mean they're conspiring saying we got to put this person on this piece in this place on the chessboard. No, it's an approach and it's a shared approach.
One other area, and we had Miranda Devine on a few weeks ago and the Laptop from Hell and looking at Hunter Biden and you'd filed an FOI for a gun owned by him and I thought someone who had such a drug issue, an alcohol issue, wouldn't be eligible to get a gun but somehow. So tell us about that because obviously Hunter Biden's background, all the the business dealings that leads directly to Joe Biden himself.Well there are a few things there and so he was dating the widow of his brother and they got into a fight or dispute and she allegedly took his gun and threw it in a dumpster across the street from a school. Law enforcement got involved and the political reporting, the reporting on it was that the Secret Service and the FBI came and went to the store from which he purchased the gun and vacuumed up documents.So, to me, that shows improper involvement by federal agencies to take care of a political problem for the son of a major political figure.But when you think about the petty nature of what he kind of had to come in and sweep up for, and of course, we've been suing about those records, right?It helps explain, well, if they're doing that for little stuff, can you imagine what they're doing for big stuff?And certainly they've had the so-called Hunter laptop for at least since 19, excuse me, 2019.It's like a Hamlet-style agony about whether to prosecute Hunter since then, even though they have him dead to rights in a series of crimes.But there's new information now that just came out here from senior members of Congress that the FBI had evidence that Joe Biden had specifically been involved in a bribery scheme with a foreign nationals vice president, and all the evidence that's out there from the laptop and other witnesses suggest and show that Joe Biden was a beneficiary of Hunter's business dealings.So he got a cut of the action, you know, the infamous 10% for the big guy approach.So Hunter, I mean, Biden, Joe was a ran his operation like a Rico operation, a racketeering operation, a mob operation.And I think the challenge for his Justice Department, which is first and foremost moving to protect him, is they can't get at Hunter without getting and raising issues about Joe.So that's why you have this stalling and this hemming and hawing about, what you're going to go, if you go after Hunter for failing to disclose money on his tax returns, what about all the money he was giving his father?Is it he's subject to the same type of scrutiny? And if he hasn't, why not?We're in a crisis here. And you know, and some of that money came from the mayor of Moscow's wife. So you've got the Putin connection, Burisma. At least that was a company. So.Burisma was a Russian leading company. And then of course, you have the Chinese who were who had Hunter in their back pocket as well, obviously, because of his name and the influence. And it wasn't like the vice president was involved in all of this as vice president.So when Putin's making decisions and Xi is making decisions, how is it that they're not calculating Biden's corruption in their decision-making?You know, they're compromised, right? He's obviously has cognitive difficulties.He's compromised by the very public figures the public figures or political figures in China and Russia making these dangerous decisions.And so, you know, maybe, oh, does it mean we invade Ukraine because Biden's in our back pocket?No, but I would suggest it's a factor. Does it mean we are more aggressive around Taiwan or generally in China because Biden's in our back pocket?No, it's not the only reason, but certainly it's a factor. Too me it's a national security issue and it would be for any other country worth it's salt.All the issues you kind of talk about seem to be the Democrat party behind institutions, and I'm wondering will it come to the point where organizations like Judicial Watch and others need to actually go after either those on Capitol Hill or those in the institutions, AGs, I mean will it have to be actually going after those within the party itself?Well, we don't go after them under law because they are Democrats.We don't go after someone because they're Republicans. We try to apply the law.Or, you know, apply our focus without regard to political party.Though generally speaking, big government usually means big corruption.So we have all that money being spent. There's usually a lot of money sloshing up over the sides, right? Or it's usually being directed to political supporters as opposed to those in the public interest. And so ideologically, if you support bigger government, you tend to be more involved in corruption. I mean, it's just kind of, to me, it just goes with the just, it's part of the package. Now, Republicans, they abuse government to target us. They refuse to take action against corruption too often because they think politically it's not feasible or won't work for them, which to me is also a form of corruption.And so this temptation is great among both Republican and Democrats to kind of abuse these powers entrusted to them, especially if they think no one's watching.And I think the problem's not insurmountable. there's always going to be, you spend $4 trillion, there's going to be corruption, okay?But let's avoid having a Justice Department that is just thrown out all semblance of being dispassionate.Let's maybe have an FBI that is significantly curtailed, or if not, radically repurposed, to focus more on traditional law enforcement than political targeting of individuals.Let's ensure that our elections are as clean as we reasonably can.You know, the temptation is great. I mean, North Carolina, they had the stay here in the United States.They had to redo a congressional election because a Republican, essentially was engaged in a massive fraud.So we just have to be constantly vigilant. That's the price of freedom.To finish off with, Tom, for 25 years you've been president of Judicial Watch.And I guess there are many stories that if Judicial Watch hadn't been there, then the truth would never be told.And I think what you're doing is a model for other countries.And I know your focus is on the US, but there are other countries across Europe that have a similar freedom of information system, but it hasn't been used as well as you have used what you have there.
 
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
 
You obviously raise money from the public, you've got a big team, and tell us about that because ideally what you've built there is something that actually could be rolled out and used in other countries.
 
Well, we're able to fundraise directly and the fundraising laws here in the United States are very friendly to grassroots groups and the non-governmental organizations, a phrase I hate, to be able to raise public support and that's much harder, my understanding is, in other countries. It's just more difficult to raise money directly from the public, as I said, outside the, you know, they usually rely on the government or the creatures of the party. But there's a growing conservative movement internationally to address this transnational left-wing threat. Our folks are there in Europe this week now for CPAC Hungary, right, and there are conservatives from all over Europe there hanging out, figuring out ways to oppose Lothiathan.
 
Yeah, and I know I'm watching CPAC Hungary. So, Tom, thank you for your time. It's fascinating. I've followed Judicial Watch for quite a while and it's exciting to see what you're doing. So thank you for coming along and sharing insights on what is happening there with Judicial Watch.
 
Well, best of luck to you, Peter, thanks for having me on.
 
Thank you.

The Week According To . . . Karli Bonne’

Much excitement this episode as we head across the pond to welcome a new guest to Hearts of Oak, Karli Bonne'.Karli runs arguably the No 1 Conservative and current affairs social media account on the web, so this is a lady with her finger firmly on the pulse of what's happening now.So who better than 'The Cackling Conservative' to talk through what has piqued our interest in the news, in articles and from her social media posts over the past seven days.Buckle up 'Midnight Riders' as Karli and Peter take a close look at....- The crowning of King Charles III.- Sleepy Joe Biden misses the coronation of King Charles because he has a 'lot going on' !!- New York City shelters 'maxed out' with migrants.- Laptop From Hell: Biden says son Hunter 'has done nothing wrong'.- TikTok workers 'compiled list of users who browsed gay content'.- Boston holds 'Satan-Con' 2023.- EU displays Satanic Anti-Christian artwork by godless lesbian in Parliament.- 2024 National Republican Primary Polls.- The Don visits Scotland. Trump on top form as he lands North of the border.- Tucker Carlson makes first public appearance since Fox News committed Hari-Kari. - Military Bud Light moment? Drag performer is Navy's new 'digital ambassador' in bid to boost recruitment.Karli Bonne' is a retired model, dancer and a Rockstar wanna be.Now she is a full blown MAGA maniac video clipper with three phones, continuously laughing at the establishment because it’s like holy water on a demon. And these demons must be eradicated.You must follow her here....Telegram: https://t.me/realKarliBonne (Midnight Rider Channel)Truth: https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonneGETTR: https://gettr.com/user/karlibonneTwitter: https://twitter.com/KarliBonnita?s=20Originally broadcast live 6.5.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/
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(Hearts of Oak)And it is always good to have a new guest on, and it's good to have Karli Bonne' with us today.Karli', thank you so much for joining us.
 
(Karli Bonne')Wonderful to be here. I was saying to you before we started to be speaking with someone with that beautiful British accent on Coronation Day, and I took the liberty to ask you for apologies in advance for any memes or anything that I might have posted.That you would find offensive, but it's all good. We discussed it and we understand each other perfectly. It's all in jest, but congratulations. This is a historic day.
It is. It is. And certainly, I know that you always speak your mind. Any jest and good humour and mocking is always welcome. So people can find you @KaliBonne on Getter and Truth and @KarliBonnita on Twitter and @RealKarliBonne on Telegram, nearly forgot there, find you on Telegram.And you, I just feel bad bringing you on because I think you're just up day and night posting.So I feel bad cutting into your proper job.
I well, I've been doing this a long time. This is a new Twitter account. I've had like eight in the past.Elon Musk or his team reinstated one of my accounts midnight rider, But I no longer possess the phone does that I did it on doesn't work. I don't have the email or the, password so I just stare at it I look at it I go on Twitter said oh there's my old account and I waved to it I can't do anything with it and a dear friend from the Keystone Channel when I got finally got kicked off Twitter for the last time started my telegram account for me and now recently she started this Twitter account and they can't get me because she lives in Mexico now where she used to live in Europe.So, you know, I'm biding my time. I haven't even been on like a full week, you know?And it's like, you're on Twitter when you've been kicked off so many times, you're like, you're constantly looking over your shoulder. When are they gonna take me down?You know, I already got an 11 hour timeout.I got smacked on the hand because I called Brian Killmeade on Fox News a whore.But you know, it I didn't you know, it was a lovingly.You know, he does like a hundred different shows He does radio and anytime there's an open slot they stick his his head in and he took I mean, Tuckers seat wasn't even cold, and they popped him in there and you know, we were, I don't think it was just me. I think all of America was just livid over this and to put him in there. I guess, you know, and then, you know, he's had a few words about Steve Bannon and that really set me off. So the timeout was worth it and they didn't make me take down the tweet. So Brian Killmeade is still a whore.
Give us give us a minute of your background. We were chatting before, obviously, you said what you're doing is, is fairly recent, although you're a master of editing those videos.But what was your, what was your life leading up to that?
Well, as I told you, I was a wannabe rock star.My whole life I wanted to do acting or singing or modelling. I've tried it all.A lot of extra work. I sang in a Russian restaurant for almost 30 years of my life, every weekend, every holiday, every New Year's.And so, that was something I would imitate Marilyn Monroe. I had different characters I would do. And in between that, rock bands. We discussed how I lived in London for a couple of years trying to make it in music. And that was back in the day when we had People's Express Airlines and it was only $99 to fly to London. And the dollar was almost equal with the pound.So I had the most glorious wardrobe shopping in Kensington. And I lived in Camden Town.I worked at the Dingwalls restaurant in Camden Town and the big place you wanted to see was the Camden Lock, which was this little waterway with a little bridge and little canoes going through. That was the tourist attraction in Camden Town.
Still is.When all of that failed and I kept trying, I started, because I was posting my music, I started with MySpace and Facebook and then all of a sudden this whole thing with politics started and I was like, who is this Trump guy?I mean, I loved him on TV, always made me laugh. And then I was like, they keep attacking this guy.There's something up with that. And I've been a Trumper ever since.And I have three phones.I just post and post and post and get the videos out there Telegram is a great, App because I can edit the videos right on telegram Which saves a lot of timeand this this just what I do now. I try to make people laugh. I keep them informed I use the telegram is like almost like an aggregator, I post everything on there. A lot of people say well, why do you post clips from Fox and I'm like, Because it's basically the only app that lets me rip the video.Where I tried it with CNN MSNBC. You can't do it. They have it blocked. You can't screen record and I do everything from an iPhone I have like three little mini computers on my bed and I work, you know, like this I put the big glasses on and this is what I do. But I enjoy it. There's a lot of wonderful people that support me and use the videos. It's all good.
I love having that telegram and getting all those clips that you put out, but let's jump in to the news. And as I said, today was was a huge day in British history. And I also get all the huge issues and push back on all the WEF stuff, everything else and I get that.But I do love the pageantry which is in the UK. So ProJam, can we play the first video? (video plays)God save the King!(music)And it goes on. That's a little, but what were your thoughts as someone across the pond, kind of, we obviously, Queen Elizabeth after such a long time, passed away, but kind of, how do you view those type of events? Is it with curiosity? Is it mocking even? Tell us Karli.
Well, I mock everything. I have no mercy. I mock everything. But, you know, I've always, you know, the pageantry is beautiful, you know, and you like the intrigue. I'm not a big, crown fan. I don't watch the series or anything like that. I do love period pieces, because I love the costumes. I love the clothing. You know, you love all the gold and the diamonds, you know. You'd be a liar if you didn't like all that. And, you know, wanted to see what what Harry was going to do.And you know, I had it on the TV, but I was too busy making memes about it. I'm so sorry.But no, it was beautiful. You know, I woke up just in time to see Charles crowned, and there it is, it's done.And now tonight, which I find pretty amazing, they're gonna have the big concert, and all the people in this concert are American performers.What does that say? Here you have, here's your new king, who's very big with the W E F and the climate and all the stuff you would think Labour and all the lefties would appreciate where the queen was just like, you know, kept it on the down low.You know, she wasn't vocal. I mean, if you hear Trump's story about her, she said, oh, I like everyone.Everyone is wonderful. You know, she was just neutral and just kept the ship sailing.You know, this guy, Charles has come out and has said things like, we're all gonna die.We gotta do something about the climate. And you know, I don't know, is he gonna still do this?But the fact that you don't have, you know, where's Adele? Where's Elton John?I mean, why aren't they performing? I mean, this is a real slap in the face by your own people.That we got, we got Katy Perry over there and Lionel Richie. I mean, they had to take the stars from our Idol TV show. Seriously. There's one video out where there was a view of the chapel, and you can see like this figure that looks like he's the Grim Reaper walking across.And I put up, I said, is Gandalf Katy Perry's plus one today?Because they made a big thing. She had a whole article that she was making fun.She couldn't find her seat. We had, well, they had Jill Biden, the professor, Dr.Jill, the professor, all the way in the back row behind Slavonia.And, you know, she's all the way in the back. Joe Biden couldn't even be bothered to go. He said last night on his Fluff Piece, interview that he's very busy. You know, he's getting, you know, he wants to finish the job.He's very busy.
 
Can I bring what actually you, the president, actually the president did come, Dr. Jill did come. I think she probably knows what's happening much more than Joe. But this is, I did find this Funny, Professor Curtains.Tell us about this, because she does seem to blur in. And there she is with her, was her granddaughter.And it does look like the Ukrainian flag in many parts, as she did.
And their carpeting was Ukrainian flag colours. Did you see that?
I saw that. Saw that.
I was like, what is that all about? You know, I am friends with a lot of, people that look into things like this and see it as messages, you know, is there a conspiracy there?
It's yeah,
 
It's it's not that you're putting up the lookout on.Ronda, Ronda Nell, Iowa. I inspired her because it seems like everything that Jill Biden wears looks like a piece of furniture or curtains or something. And she did a whole thread over on Twitter with all the different looks like Jill Biden is a couch.Today, they put up she actually looked a little bit like if they melted them both together, it would have been Snow White's outfit, even with the little bow in the hair.It's just crazy. And she did shower curtains. See, I joke when I put it in a tweet that's like, there's what is Alice wearing today? The joke is she looks like Alice Cooper. Yeah.And we say, you know, and I'll put up an outfit that she has on at the time and I'll say, okay, everybody, what the hell is Alice Cooper wearing today?Everyone goes nuts and they do the side by side pictures and it's just become this running gag and some people have done whole threads.[14:24] They have found actual tablecloths and curtains and throw rugs and couches and vinyl shower curtains that have matched all her outfits. It's very disturbing. This is the First Lady.It's very disturbing. Yesterday she met with Kate. And I believe it was the Zelensky's wife. And they both had solid colours on they look very nice. And she came in with this flower dress. I said all I got to do is tip her over and put the tea on top of her and use her as a table.Cause she looked like she was wearing the tablecloth.
It's true, I saw that.
 
It's so embarrassing.Well, yeah, you've got many things in your political worlds are embarrassing.Actually, we also are the same, but let me, this was a clip, I think it was from Fox News.You'd posted talking about Biden being rude and anti-British. Let's bring this up.Pro Jam. Can you play that little clip?
 
(video plays)
Here in London. Also missing, of course, along with Meghan Markle, is Joe Biden.Biden is absent from the coronation. I do think this is a very rude signal that Biden is sending to the British people. A lot of unhappiness, certainly on the ground in the UK, with regard to Biden not bothering to attend. And Biden is seen by many Brits as very anti-British.Really? You know, Hilary,
 
You see the woman, she said yes, because you realize it was just a week ago he was in Ireland. And he had the crowds all swooning and you know he can't get crowds like that in his own country. They all sit in little circles.
 
They actually believe he's the president there, so they do come out. But you're right, he was over in Ireland and the whole thing was he was in Northern Ireland and the car, I think someone had posted, didn't even have a Union Jack on the car but he went to the Republic of Ireland and again all the tricolour flags and it seemed to be two fingers up to Britain. So yeah.
 
That question, because you would know this better than I do, the part of Ireland he supposedly is part of or his, you know, lineage or whatever, is this the part of Ireland that doesn't want Brexit? Are they part of Brexit?
So it was part of the Republic of Ireland. So the Republic being a separate country for just over 100 years. So you've got Northern Ireland as part of the UK, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And you've got the issue with Brexit in Northern Ireland.But the issue is Republic of Ireland rely on the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland for trade.So anything that happens to us hits them.But it's a yeah, it's it's a very.
 
We did one of these.
 
Yeah, yeah, he did.
Yeah, I know how to curse in British.But was that was that reported on at all? His trip over by a Biden trip over to the UK?
Oh yes, they made a very big deal of it, you know.They're saying, oh, look how they welcomed him. And meanwhile, he was having his usual brain farts.He's there with Hunter, now supposedly Hunter, the broke son who wants to give less money to his daughter.OK? He supposedly slept on a cot while he was in Ireland.I'm like, give me a break.A lot of stuff is hitting the fan. I don't know if that was like their last hurrah trip.And then Jill going to England without Joe, like Joe is playing it low key, or they're basically, he's announced that he's running.So now there's no debates and they're gonna run the basement campaign they did during COVID.He did a little puff interview last night. Even with the editing, it was terrible.
What, 10 p.m.?Was it late at night, 10 p.m. I saw.
 
Well, I don't know that it might've been taped.I don't think it was live.Okay, so I think it was definitely after tapioca and close to bedtime.So I think, you know, they got him. He was still a lunch bag. It's embarrassing.But he has the media covering for him.He has newspapers covering for him. And now, I noticed that I'm on Twitter now.I would always check. They never tweeted for him much. I know he doesn't tweet.The man does not tweet.Okay, he just learned how to take selfies this past year. Because I remember when he started his campaign, he didn't even know how to open the phone.He was looking to see if it flips open.Okay, but he doesn't tweet, but it seems his staff, they think they're going to get him out there through social media.So today it's been like a tweet storm. I've lowered these costs and I've added these jobs.And it's like every 20 minutes or so, it's a new tweet with some lying stats.And what's great now that Elon purchased Twitter, he's getting community noted to death.He's getting fact-checked by the community.Not by Politico, not by all those phony fact-checkers that used to fact-check all of us.No, it's the community, because this is the town square. This is where we all go.We're all independent.We think independently, and we see that this is a lie.So it's a beautiful thing. Now, this is why they didn't get rid of TikTok.Because if you go over to tick-tock and I'm on my fourth or fifth or sixth account over there because they kept taking me down. They hate Steve Bannon on TikTok, Hate him. I've lost so many accounts He's the guy, gotta stop putting up the Steve Bannon videos, you know, and I'm like, I'm never gonna stop doing that, But it's all these young, with 1 million 2 million followers young lefty kids and and they've invited them to the White House.This is, you know, they're going to run their campaign the way they think Donald Trump did in 2016, where it was social media, minus the rallies, because this man can hardly speak and doesn't know when to get on or off the stage or what direction he's going.I'm just so glad he's announced he's running. It's one of the greatest gifts, I think, to your country.And the world. But you mentioned about in the interview, this is the Daily Mail article, Joe Biden claims he couldn't attend King Charles' coronation because he's got a lot going on. And also the interesting thing, and this was the editorial piece in the Daily Mail, it says, the president dispatched his wife Jill to attend the ceremony's place. I know that was a beautiful dispatched, it seemed to be quite disparaging, quite mocking. I thought this is great, the, media are getting it and they're willing to mock him and I've seen that fairly regularly, where in the first year or so he could do no wrong, he had slayed Trump and suddenly they seem to be turning on him and realising he's an utter disaster.Well, you know, the Daily Mail, that's a British paper, isn't it?So this is very insulting. I mean, they'll do different articles and stuff that are very good, but they cover the monarchy and everything that has to do with the queen or the king now and this, this does not rub them the right way. This is a total two fingers up that he didn't go, that he's too busy. Now I'm sure that the White House didn't use the word dispatched. I'm sure the Daily Mail is taking that a little that's that's their wording. You know, I don't think the White House would say that. And the fact that oh, he's very busy.Well, he's not busy with AI because Kamala is doing that now. He's not busy with the border because he sent my York is down there. What else is he not busy with?I can't think. And also, he's not busy with press conferences. He doesn't do those.What is he busy with? His team is arguing with Hunter Biden's lawyers.Hunter Biden wants to start his own GoFundMe for the lawyers.And Biden's team is like, you can't do that. I mean, we covered for you with the paintings.We couldn't be transparent, you know, you're solo artist, you're out there, you know, who buys your paintings, that's your business, that's separate from the White House.But now you want to start a GoFundMe for your baby mama problems?And now we're finding out, you know, Brennan, that the same cast of evil characters with the Russia Russia Russia hoax. Here we go again. They're the ones that we're talking to Blinken and do we got an IRS whistle-blower? We got other whistle-blowers and it's all bubbling up and you know what's going to happen? They're going to bring in Michelle Obama.How can they really run this guy? They won't let him debate.Yeah. They won't let him go out for too long and speak.They're going to win by tweeting and TikTok? A bunch of kids screaming on TikTok?Think about it. I think, you know, are they gonna have a new kind of COVID?
Don't give them ideas.
 
They're gonna have to pull something because you can see with the polling and with that, even with that softball interview last night, it's utterly embarrassing. And this coronation thing, him not being there, and they're keeping Jill very low profile. They stuck her all the way in the back of the church. Okay. We have no American media taking, you know, oh, she's so glamorous and look at this, you know, because she's not. She walks like she's been on a tractor for six hours. You know, this is not an attractive woman. And see Simpadwey, what kind of stupid thing? She's going to talk like this, like, you know, Jersey girl.Oh, it's such a mess. And, you know, for the life of me, because it's so embarrassing, I can't think like a Democrat and see how the hell do we get out of this mess?
Well, let me bring up, this was the New York Post headline you put up, and this is another thing that Biden is not doing, sorting out the border.Beautiful headline, maxed out with New York City shelters full, Adams buses migrants to Rockland County. Furious officials say this is absurd, we will not stand for it.I love it the way these Democrat cities and states are actually beginning to feel the heat, whenever Texas and Florida and others say, well, enough is enough. How do you view this? Will this force things to happen? Will some of the Democrat voters waken up and realize actually what is happening on the border?
 
Well, it can't be ignored anymore. And this is maxed out now, and this is before title 42 is lifted. Meanwhile, they never were really enforcing it. And they're trying to pass a bill to have title 42 for another two years, because even if it's, It was used for COVID.There's other diseases coming.They have these tent cities and stuff. They got scabies. We could get an outbreak of smallpox, measles. There's all other diseases. It's not just COVID. And they say, well, it was used for COVID.Well, it should be used for the next two years for a lot of things. I've watched videos where they're actually washing lice out of the migrants' hair. This should have been addressed when the first baby. First little baby was thrown over the wall. Not Trump's wall, another piece of wall, someone climbed up there and threw a baby over and left it sitting there. That's when this should have been addressed. When they had they weren't in cages, they were in plastic tents. And Ted Cruz went down there. That's when it should have been addressed. And they're saying, oh, we have a six point plan, eight point plan, my orcas should be thrown out.Actually, the way our country has been so overrun, I consider it treason.And I think Biden should be sent out on a rail.Because this is treasonous. This is invasion of our country.And this has been going on for two years. And they're saying Congress has to do something.We didn't have this problem when Trump was president.And they all had AOC down there crying next to a fence in a parking lot.And she said, oh, they're drinking out of toilets. Meanwhile, it's in those facilities, the sink is on top.And the toilet, it's one fixture. And she's drinking out of toilet, where is she now?Where is she now?They found a young girl was raped so many times, They found 47 or something different kinds of DNA inside of her.They have lost 87,000 children. Joe Biden is a child sex trafficker and a child sex trader, slave trader.They're talking about reparations in California. Look at your president, people.You voted for this man!And he is flesh trading your precious migrants that you're all so concerned about.And now you're saying if the men down there, which is a lot of men, Chinese men, all different countries coming in, if they dress up in drag, they'll be let in immediately. This is the signals they're sending out. We have warriors that are down there at the Darien Gap and at the, border since day one of this nonsense reporting on this. So don't say that this is all new news. We all know about it. America knows about it. A lot of Democrat senators, governors, mayors, congressmen that are on those border states, they don't wanna lose their job. They're speaking up now too.So the fact that they waited until the last minute.It's shameful, it's shameful. I don't want to see anybody in pain.
Well, another thing that's shameful, and you talk about treason, you mentioned it earlier on, this was the headline from Fox News, Biden says Hunter has done nothing wrong ahead of possible indictment. I did listen to him saying that because I thought, no, surely he couldn't have said it.I trust him. I had faith in him and it impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him, Biden says of son Hunter Biden. I mean, it's all out there, all the evidence. Again, will the American people get it?Because obviously the last election, this was suppressed and that's all come out.All the information is now out there.What's going to happen? Because it seems as though the net is tightening closer and closer on Hunter.Well, the fact that he went on there, he's gonna stick to it because he's a stubborn, nasty old coot, okay?A lot of people say, oh, he's got the dementia and stuff. I watch him in different settings where he starts drifting off, but then someone will shout a question at him and he'll turn around and snap and you see the nasty old man.All right? So I take the dementia with a grain of salt. I think a lot of it's acting and he's playing the grandpa love me Joe, but he's nasty.Yeah, this is a nasty white trash family. They're white trash. They're trash. And remember the video when Tucker Carlson interviewed Tony Bobulinski and Tony Bobulinski, Tucker asked him, he goes, how are they getting away with this? How did they think they were going to get away with this? And Tucker was being honest. He's like, you know, bewildered. You're telling me all these horrible things and you got proof and you got emails. How are they getting away with it. And Bobulinski just looked at him and said, plausible deniability.Because they're actors. This man, he said last night, I have the best resume, I've been doing this forever.I know better than anyone.Yeah, knows how to play the system, skated through it, kept getting put back in office.You know, you got friends at the unions that are gonna pay for the politics and pay to play.And then you bring in other countries.It's, I just hope this whole thing with Comer doesn't turn out to be like, uh, Trey Gowdy and Benghazi.Because here we all thought, oh, we're going to get some, every time we all thinking we got the popcorn ready and we're going to get some accountability and then it just disappears and we have nothing.And the left laughs. And we're left like just all that energy drained.So I don't get my hopes up. I post what's coming out.I keep everybody up to date with what's happening.And I keep myself up to date.But you know, I take every, I don't get excited anymore.They broke in my spirit. I want to see justice.There's a lot of things we still haven't seen justice for.What happened with Durham? Where is Durham?We made all the memes with, you know, the Punisher shirt and we're, yeah, Durham's coming.He lost two cases and then he disappeared.And they were such low bar cases to nobodies.And there's so many, in the hierarchy of the, as Cash Patel would say, the government gangsters, there's so many at higher levels of power that we have dirt on, that the country, the whole world has seen.And no one cares. It's business as usual. And that drives me crazy.Just when I think I can quit and say, Oh, everything's good in the world.I can't let it go because it's not been settled and these people are getting away with things.And every time, this is a funny bit, every time there's new news on some rotten stuff that these people have done, there's a new accusation against Trump.You know, don't look here, look here. but Trump did this, so don't even worry about that.That's, you know, that's Russian propaganda. Look at what Trump did.And then they put out videos of Trump and his deposition. And he's a beast.He's a beast. You know, I've never been one of those women that was like, oh, he said, grab him by the, oh, oh, that's terrible. Oh, you're such a liar.You're all lying. You women love it.Everyone wants a man's man.Nobody wants a Bud Light drinker these days. We want real men, especially if the zombie apocalypse comes, you want a real man.You know? So none of that bothers me. And all the phony, they're so phony.All of them, they act prissy and like, oh, it's so horrible. Oh, he's a rapist.Oh, he's this. Oh, he's that. And they're all, you know?Oh, you're so phony. I see right through you. You're a piece of...I have to mock you and meme you to oblivion because you're ridiculous. Ridiculous people.
I love watching some of the depositions. I haven't seen it all, but they're so good. There's so many outtakes of it
 
He's such a beast. Oh god, just when you think you cannot love this man more. Oh god, I love it. Wonderful.
Let's go to something completely different. This is TikTok and I'm curious to get your thoughts, not specifically on this, but on TikTok in general and all the debate. I had to laugh at this. TikTok workers compiled lists of users who browse gay content, which sparked complaints from some employees who were concerned it could be used to blackmail people. Surely not. There's a massive debate at the moment in the US on TikTok and the influence it has. And of course, that leads back to China and whether individuals are in control of China. And this kind of connects with that, that TikTok gathering information to be used for blackmail, that kind of does connect at all the dots, doesn't it? But what's been happening TikTok-wise in the US?Well, I told you, I'm like on my seventh account, they keep taking me down because they don't like Jesse Waters, they don't like Steve Bannon, they don't like Fox News. Now you will get taken down for supposedly disinformation about the climate and it's basically an lbg ptq playground.And it's sad because you know it is a great platform for making videos and things it really, is a it's great I love using it a lot of people say oh it's china in my phone I said you're worried about China in your phone. Can we be completely honest here folks? You're worried about China in your phone.The overlords of our own government are in your phone. You have Google on your phone, you have Facebook on your phone. We just found out from the Twitter files that the CIA and the FBI were in your private messages. Okay? And you're worried about China? What's China going to do to me that hasn't already been done? Where they released a catastrophic virus and you're worried about TikTok? This is how I knew they were never going to get rid of TikTok. They went through the motions, oh, federal employees can't use TikTok. They could go home and use it, but when you're on the job or if you have a federal employee's special phone or something, you can't use TikTok.And it was all the big rage. They had the CEO of TikTok up there. None of these people knew what they were talking about. They know nothing. And another thing, if you've ever been on Discord, or any of these other platforms like that, gaming platforms, the CIA's in there, China's in there.I would say MI6 is probably in there. So this is nothing new. Spy versus spy, this is nothing new.So this new thing that they, you know, had a bunch of information, didn't we just get through a whole bunch of employees from banks that they got hacked and all their information was put out?You're going to see this a lot more, especially now we're getting closer to maybe China invading Taiwan, or right now there's a stalemate with the Russian-Ukraine war.We're going to see a lot more cyber stuff go down, a lot more.So, who knows, someone might just take TikTok down all on their own.So I just, I don't worry about it. I just use any outlet I can, whether it's to make videos, post videos, or share videos from.You know, because I got 50 followers now on TikTok when I used to have 20K.You know, it's hard to build up again when they don't like you.They're not gonna let people see you.So who does that, the Chinese overlords, or is this now the Democrat party that's in charge?Because if you look, all the people that say to get off TikTok are not on TikTok, but now AOC, what was it, Watermelon Head Schiff, the minute he got kicked off the intel committee, he opened up a TikTok account.Was crying over there, you know what I'm saying? These people don't care what you think.They don't care. They don't listen to their own advice because a lot of them know it's nonsense.So I feel bad that people's information is being put out there, but that's it.Look, your bank information could fall into the wrong hands.Look what's happening with the banks collapsing.All right. You know, you're one hack away. All of this reminds me, they took the show off, Westworld.Have you watched Westworld?
 
Yeah, I've watched some of the early ones off it. Yeah, yeah.
The last season, it was incredible. They were able to do with sound waves, like they would infect you with a fly, like a fly would fly into you, I guess with nanobots and stuff.And they had a building that you couldn't even see.And it would let off a sound, and it was able to control you.But the season before, the robots or fembots or whatever they were, were able to hack into the system and show everybody what everybody really thinks of them.Everyone was exposed. There was just one day everyone's looking at their phone. The system was hacked. The AI was hacked and everyone saw the truth and it became complete Anarchy. People were just killing each other left and right blow countries blowing each other up when everyone finally saw the truth It was anarchy now, what if we all finally got the truth and we weren't all just conspiracy theorists anymore, What if we finally were told the truth?Have they been hiding the truth from us because they're afraid of this kind of anarchy?Or do they just want to keep us dumb cows, tell us what to eat, what stove to buy, what car to buy, pay the taxes so we can have other people tell us what to do?Is that the point of our existence? or is our existence to ask questions, worship God, have a family, enjoy life, feel the grass under our feet, one with our beautiful world.Like Elon wants to go to other planets. Let's deal with this one because we got some evil people on this planet.I told you, I laugh at them. I get kicked off of platforms because I laugh at them.And I record myself laughing at them. It goes viral.And I laugh at them because it's like holy water on a demon.When you make jokes, like the memes are so important that everyone does because that laughter, it's not only good for the soul, but it exposes the truth.That's why they try to shut down so many comedians.And now the comedians are shut down because we got a strike.
I saw that. No, but memes are so powerful. So powerful.And President Trump put up this latest poll, 2024 National Republican primary, Trump 58%, DeSantis 22%, Pence, is Pence still running?5%. Ramaswamy 5%, Haley 4%, Christie.And what are your, because he obviously is streets ahead, and what's kind of the process?When did the kind of primaries start and when?I really can't believe anyone would run against him.As much as I really do like DeSantis and like what he's done in Florida, I don't understand the logic for running against Donald Trump.
Well, from what I've seen in the past, a lot of people get in primaries because they're looking for cabinet jobs. They don't expect to be president like Ed Buttigieg and Kamala and all those people that lined up at the last election. Buttigieg is now in charge of airplanes. Look how good that's working out. You got Kamala, she quit. She was less than 1%. She quit before they even had a primary, and now she's vice president.So sometimes people run, like you saw President Trump put out a truth social giving some kudos to Varuswamy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
You know, so saying, you know, you're doing a good job, you know.He never puts down Nikki Haley.But he goes right after Ron because everyone says oh because you know, he's closer to him in the polls No If you know anything about our President Trump, He's been saying it his whole life. If you ever read any of his books or seen old videos of him, you know one thing, he values loyalty. He is a businessman if you're not loyal and I do something for you stay loyal to me. We'll make things work out. He could have made him, in DeSantis in 2028, the biggest thing anyone's ever seen.Or even think about vice president, but because he's doing this, now you got people fighting on Twitter.Oh, the DeSantis people or the never Trumper people and now DeSantis people and that Chris Christie and his fat ass wants to get in.Give me a break, you know?I guess nothing happened when Mike Pence went to give his deposition because I'm sure if there was one iota of damning things that he said, it would be in the news right now.
It's true, yeah.Because they love to leak. They love to leak.So when you don't hear anything, that's a good thing.It's a very good thing when you don't hear anything. But Mike Pence, I don't know, is he gonna run?Who knows? A lot of these people. I mean, who is it that in California? It's this people running that have no chance in hell. It's a Hutchinson. Are you kidding me? A race ahead.Get out of here. All right. What does he want to do? Is he running so he could just collect as much money as possible? Then once he doesn't even make it to a primary, he can go and write a book and then do a tour. I ran for president a lot of see this is a whole, money-making scheme Beta O'Rourke has run for everything with his arms flailing in the air looking like he's on the parking lot of a used car lot.And that's how he makes his money. He's disappeared Where is he now? They got a new guy that did pumping up, to run against Ted Cruz in texas, I never heard of the guy, but he looks like one of these bodybuilders and there's already dirt coming out of the sky.You know? So bring it, people, because you know what? We do our homework and we will find the dirt on you and not be quiet about it.
Let's move on to, there are lots of comments down on GETTR, I won't be able to pull them.This for just the first minute or so but we'll play it anyway.
(video plays)Welcome back. Welcome back.President Trump, a quick word to the Irish friends.What's it like being back at Ireland for the first time since the election?This has become a big success. We love it.Special place. You see what happened out there with the kids and yeah.We help them and they help them. It's really a very special place.Great course, great hotel.You're here very shortly after President Biden's visit. What did you make of President Biden's visit?What did you make of the crowds? I mean, I didn't see too much of his visit.I don't know what he did here, but this is special.And we're here to pay homage to this great property. This property has revitalized a big part of Ireland and the people are happy.And we have incredible people working here. A lot of them, too. You see some of them, a lot of them.And so it's been great, it's been really great. There's a lot of yous in Ireland, a lot of them paying an awful lot of corporate tax here. Do you think some of that corporate tax, or at least most of that corporate tax should be paid in America?Well, that's an interesting question, but I won't answer that question in your country.But a lot of people would say yes, but Ireland's done a great job.You've lured a lot of companies in, and they love it here, they really love it here.They've been treated well, just like I've been treated well.This has been a great success, and we bought this, it was a great property, but it had to be finished.And we have really completed it, and it's beautiful. And now we'll do some additions.And the course is one of the best courses in the world, actually, one of the best courses, with some of the most beautiful dunes in the world.So we've had a good time. You've had some planning difficulties, though.What do you think of the Irish planning system and the recent refusal of planning commission?Well, I think we've had very good luck. You know, most of this is built because of planning commission.But what we've wanted to do, I think they've pretty much led us to the important things.There's been a lot of attention on the Northern Ireland post-Brexit trading agreements.How do you think those negotiations are going? Well, we're going to see.They're negotiating and we're going to see.But there are a lot of negotiations going on in Ireland and other places right now.But that's going to be a tough one. It's not an easy one. We're gonna have to work it out.Will cut short, uh, President Trump, but it was, it was Ireland. So he did do Scotland and then went to, uh, Ireland, but it's
 
Right before that he was outside with a hat on and all the kids saying to him. Yeah. So I felt bad because he knew his hair was messed up. He knew it. He knew he had that little puff right there and he wanted so badly to fix it, but he was just like, he's so stoic.You know, he takes the questions, he knows, you know, sometimes they're going to be hard, but let's say, yeah, but and he knows how to direct to something else and say, yeah, but we're doing this and this is good for Ireland. And he's very good. He's, you know, Joe can't do that. Joe can't do that.
 
But Trump, he always is so good. He, he, he takes all the questions. He, he doesn't but anyway, and he, he's that personal touch because he knows his stuff and poor Joe doesn't know what day of the week it is, never mind knowing about policies, talking to the press.
 
Well, supposedly Joe was picked by Obama, for his, he was good with foreign affairs, and we all see what has happened with the foreign affairs.
Since Joe became president, okay. If anything, he was good at foreign affairs because he was able to send his son the bag man and make some bank for the family. That's why he knew the foreign affairs. He knew who to talk to and where to send the poor kid, you know, who turned out to to be pretty rotten, you know, it's just, oh.But Trump, he's a businessman, you know, I love you get a morning Mika and and that whole rotten crowd over there on MSNBC and they're like, Oh, he's just a game show host.He's been a businessman. He's been in real estate. He's worked with the boxing, the casinos.He's not, just because he had a great show.All right, because of his status from all the other things that he did.Best selling books. I mean, come on, you know, they try to really cheapen him. Because they're so damn jealous. And they all loved him when he was a Democrat. Chuck Schumer was like, come back, come back, you know, when he was running against Hillary at that dinner. And then what did Chuck do? He came out with as many knives and Uzis and whatever else, landmines, anything he could throw at this man to ruin his presidency.Well from a political heavyweight to a media heavyweight, and then we'll just finish off with looking at your US military gone fully woke.But this is Tucker Carlson. This is just short, 30 seconds, I think.Pro Jam, play this and listen to Tucker and his speech.If you can.Or not.This is, well Tucker's line is, I didn't realise how much free time I would have when I accepted this speech. This is his first public appearance since his removal from Fox News. But what are, your, everyone is speculating, everyone is thinking what on earth is he going to do next. He obviously wasn't expecting it because he said he was going to be on on the Monday and then wasn't.And I mean, Tucker could do anything he wanted. So how are you watching this individual who is bigger than really anyone else in the in the media space?
I'm what you know, when he posted that video at 801 on the first night that the whore Brian Kilmeade was in his slot and he posted on Twitter and that tweet of him, you know, just being him and putting out a message to everybody got more views than anything.It was just, it was insane.
 
Like 25 or 40 million or something or some,
 
It's like I don't even know where it's at now. It's just Ridonculous. All right, and uh, he could go anywhere the question I have is I would like him to do an interview or put out another video to let us unless he's, they might have him, Under a contract where he can't speak, like, you can go and do these speeches at these private venues, like, that video is somebody holding up a phone, that's uncivilized.He could probably, he could do things like that, but if he was to go on somebody's show, I mean, Fox could have him silenced.I would like to know these things. I want to know how much freedom does he actually have.Are they keeping a boot on him till after the election? How long is this gonna last?Are they paying him out? Is he fired? Was it mutual? You know what I'm saying? They did him dirty. They did him dirty. But is he and he can go anywhere. He could just start his own podcast.It would just be insane. It would be the biggest thing ever. Is he taking time now to enjoy his family. He'll talk here and there. I think he sent a message to CPAC in Ukraine, not in Ukraine, in Hungary, didn't he?
He did. He sent a 30, 40, short message to them. But I think he did that before he was removed.
 
Because it was on his set.
Yeah. But he said, if I'm ever sacked, then I will be with you. And then he was sacked.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Anything that he was to do now. He could get sued by Fox because he's under contract. You know that they get you. They get you.You thought you sign your life away. Or you read renegotiate but they could have him on hold for for six or nine more months. I mean, he it's not like he's he's gonna starve to death, but you gotta think of politically where we are.He was a huge voice that we needed and nobody on Fox is gonna fill that hole.So that's why we go the independent route and we all support each other, and just keep supporting each other like what you do.Me with my kooky videos and my memes and stuff, everybody, keep the pressure on, keep laughing at them, keep throwing that holy water, exposing these demons that need to be eradicated from our world.Because they will not stop. They will never stop. They will never give up.They're dug in. Now are we gonna be like all the RINOS of the past and the ones that want to move in now because there's a void there and we're going to roll over and show our bellies and say, oh give me a little scratchy it's okay, let it be like that no we've been fighting for too long to to give up now, way too long, please.Giving up, it shouldn't even be a thought.Can I just finish, just two or three minutes just on this. I just want to throw it in on the US military.And Steve had posted this, which Daily Mail story, but the Navy is 8,000 recruits short because red blooded Americans don't want to join a freak show, I'm not sure this Navy is ready to defeat the CCP fleet in a gun battle in the South China Seas.I mean, the last thing you need for your recruitment campaign for the military is a bloke dressing up as a woman and somehow, someone, somewhere has decided this is the way to fix your military shortfall.Um, yeah, uh, Steve calls it I perfectly. It is a freak show.Well, there's someone that is friends with that Dylan Mulvaney. Because they used to work together on the Book of Mormon. They were like theatre kids together or something. And they just put out a TikTok video showing this old movie.And it also had Ronald Reagan and where all the men dressed up like women and this was to raise money, for the for the military and, because of this old movie that this guy found he says What Dylan's doing and what the navy is doing is all right because look there's even a child in the audience and I'm like, No, no, no, no, no That was different because all those men that put on a woman's dress.And did some camp Okay They all went home to their wives, if they didn't get blown up in the war.Okay, it's a big difference. Okay, everyone knew it was just a play acting. Remember, you want to go back even further? Shakespeare, plays that were performed way, way back in the day, all the performers had to be male. And the men played the women's roles.Okay, so there's a talk this drag thing that you're doing the hyper sexualized. Yes. Oh, oh, all right. That's not what that old movie did. It was a bunch of men dressed up in these hokey lady, old lady dresses. Okay, and Milton Berle, that was part of his his shtick was, dressing up as an ugly old woman, okay? There's the comedy part and then there's this over-sexualized nonsense that's being pushed.So don't show me an old movie with Ronald Reagan of a bunch of our military guys dressed up as women and compare it to the nonsense that's being portrayed now, this hyper sexualization these guys you know, doing splits and big rubber boobies with nipples in the kids faces, Yeah, okay the heavy makeup.You know these drag is an art drag is a nightclub thing It's just like going to see a stripper in a pole dancing thing.That was drag.And now you got these really low budget drag performers going to kids' schools.And a lot of them have been arrested for kiddie porn.They've got their junk hanging out, their costumes are low, low budget.You got professional drag performers saying, stop this nonsense.It's embarrassing. We don't stand for this. We don't go to kids. I will. Who is it? Jesse Waters had a drag performer on his show and said that this is horrible. I don't stand for this. When I go out to the club. I don't want kids crying in the background. I want to have my mimosa and see a show. And that's my thing. But now the I don't know what is it with the kids. And you know, there's something really, and I don't want to say evil, because, you know, I hate to think that everyone's evil. But there's an evil agenda going on with this, a very evil agenda and it's towards the kids.And they started off, you know how you start with soft porn and then you get addicted and it has to get harder and harder to get more clicks or get more outrage.They're using it as a tool to get an outrage mob going on both sides, for and against.We still haven't seen the manifesto of the trans murderer.None of those family members were invited to the White House but the three insurrectionists were.And I thought it was also very funny. One of the insurrectionists, the guy with the bullhorn was out in front of the correspondence dinner, in a tuxedo with the bullhorn yelling at the people coming in, the reporters for climate change and get rid of big oil. Here's all the people that stuck up for this little maggot, and he's yelling with the bull horn in their face.
Wow. Wow. Karli, I'll bring us into a close. As I said at the beginning, I feel bad taking out of your time on posting non-stop.Great having you on. Thank you so much for giving us your time.Well, this afternoon with you, this evening with us.
 
Oh, this is wonderful.I was just, I couldn't believe you invited me because I'm such a goofball.And I always see, I always watch your videos and you have very serious people on.I'm like, what the hell does he want me on for? I am like goofy and you know, my eyes are wacky.And you know, I just make memes and stuff.This was wonderful. I hope everyone enjoyed my goofiness and listen, enjoy the rest of your celebration over there. I pray for you and I pray for your country just as hard as I pray for mine right now.
 
They both need prayer. They really do. They really do. No, but I love your memes. Absolutely love them. And that's where we win this battle using the power of media and memes using humour. That's how you get people and that's how you connect to people. So thank you for what you do. And Midnight Rider channel, love it on Telegram. So thank you.Let me finish off with our viewers. Thank you for tuning in wherever you are, however you're watching. Great to have you with us. Obviously, if you didn't know Karli before, all the links are on the screen there, on GETTR, on Truth, on Twitter, and @RealKarliBonne on Telegram, so make sure and follow her. Or if you're listening on the go after, thank you for joining us. So I wish you all a wonderful rest of your weekend, and we'll be back with you on Monday with Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch.
 
Oh he's my favourite!
 
He's so good, I met him when I was over a couple, well, just CPAC and them before. And I love what Judicial Watch do, just the power of using those freedom of information on the government. So he'll be with us on Monday.
 
He's another patriot that he doesn't stop. He doesn't stop. Like, I don't know when he finds the time to lift weights and keep up that Superman bod with all the work that he does. You know, I get the newsletter.25 years, 25 years he's been president of Judicial Watch and it's a phenomenal organization.So yeah, he'll be with us on Monday.So on that, I wish our viewers a wonderful rest of your weekend and we'll be with you on Monday.Thank you for joining us and goodbye.

Darren Denslow - Local Elections 2023: The Rise of the Independent Candidates

Voting is upon some of us once again in England with Local Elections happening across the country with some 8000 seats up for grabs. Darren Denslow joins us as someone who is vying for one of those seats, many will know him from Twitter as Wolsned or Darren of Plymouth and he is standing for election in his home city of Plymouth. Most candidates stand for one of the main political parties but Darren chose to be an independent.Why did he discount the parties? How has he campaigned as an independent? Is there a way of reversing voter apathy?Tune in this episode to hear Darren's experiences and why he thinks you should get out there and vote.Darren Denslow is a chemist, science teacher, ex military finance/procurement specialist turned political commentator, free speech advocate, radio host and runs two of the best 'Truth Speaking' Twitter accounts to come out of the UK, @DarrenPlymouth and @wolsned. Darren has lived in Plymouth all his life and truly loves his city and that is why he is running as an independent councillor in St. Peters & The Waterfront to represent the wishes of local people on local issues.Follow and support Darren ....WEBSITE: https://www.darrenofplymouth.com/RADIO: https://tntradio.live/PODCAST: https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/category/darren-denslowTWITTER: https://twitter.com/wolsned?s=20GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/darrenplymouthInterview recorded 2.5.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/Audio Podcast version available on Podbean and all major podcast directories... ⁣https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/connect/Please subscribe, like and share!
Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Hello Hearts of Oak and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Darren Denslow or Darren of Plymouth as most of you will know him from his social media profile.And you can also catch Darren on TNT radio every Sunday afternoon but the reason I asked him on today was local politics. He is standing as an independent candidate in the local elections and as this goes out on Thursday today will be election day so you can make a decision to vote for candidates. So Darren joins us to explain why he's standing as a local candidate, why he discounted the other parties, what pushed him into that role. He stood before, so we talk about his previous experiences, and why local elections is so important. People often think of Westminster, central government as the place where it happens, but actually the importance and many of the issues are sorted out and dealt with at local level. So why is that important? Why should you vote if you're in the UK? And talk about apathy. I mean, there are massive voter apathy across the UK and it's just getting worse and worse. And Darren brings his passion, his energy, his enthusiasm for dealing with local issues. I would really inspire anyone to vote and to get someone in who cares about their local issues. So as you watch this, local elections will be on today in many parts of England. 8,000 seats are up for grabs, so do make a decision on voting if you haven't done already. But over to Darren to explain his experiences and why you should vote.Darren Denslow, or Darren of Plymouth as I would know you. Darren, thank you so much for being with us today.
 
(Darren Denslow)
My pleasure, mate. My pleasure. Glad to be on here. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk to you.
 
Great to have you with us. Now to follow your Twitter profile, and they're @Wolsned. People can follow you there and of course they can watch you on tntradio.live.You're on the Sunday afternoon slot, I believe, 1 to 3 UK time or 8 to 10 am eastern time for our US viewers on the east coast. And I saw, I think the last two weeks, well you've hadDan and Stan, Voice of Wales, who I know well and we've had on numerous times. Also James Harvey, Voice of Wales, Unity News Network, Students Against Tyranny. I think we had him last week hearing about his background as a student.
 
Good lad, he is.
 
Very good.And of course you're the independent candidate for St Peter and the Waterfront Ward in Plymouth, and we'll delve into that a little bit deeper. But first Darren, can I ask you to introduce yourself before we get into elections and all that stuff?
 
Yeah sure, my name's Darren Denslow, I was known as you said as Darren of Plymouth on Twitter. I still actually have that Twitter account, Elon has graciously given it back to me, but they give it back to me in a mangled reck, It doesn't really work very well. So you can find me on Twitter @Wolsned. I am a chemist.A science teacher by training. I spent 15 years working in finance and in the dockyard.Prior to that, I was cancelled as a teacher because of the trans issue. And I now, after speaking out for sort of three years throughout the pandemic and through the Brexit period, I now work as a, someone called me a news anchor the other day, which was, which was quite nice, but I do news reporting during the week on TNT radio. And as you said, I have my own show 1pm to 3pm UK time on a Sunday. But I'm also for my sins, standing in my second local election.I stood in 2021 in a different ward in Beverall in Plymouth. But that was really just me just spending a bit of money to try and poll the local population to find out who would vote independent and who didn't believe in the Covid narrative. This year I'm standing in theSt. Peter and Waterfront ward is probably one of the most historicparts of England, let alone Plymouth. And so I'm quite honoured to have the Barbican and the waterfront as somewhere that I might potentially come Thursday represent. So I'm standing as an independent candidate. The reason I'm standing as an independent candidate in Plymouth.The trigger was the destruction of the trees and the Plymouth tree massacre. No, I'm not a greenie, I'm not a tree hugger or an environmentalist or a climate change activist. I was really unhappy that the public's wishes were not represented by the people in the local council, the Conservatives, Labour and the Green Party all had an opportunity to prevent the cutting down of over 110 mature trees in the centre of Plymouth. They either abstained or voted for, even though a petition of 16,000 said don't do it. And so I decided, you know, there's no democracy here in Plymouth. In fact, there's no democracy left in the UK after the last three years. And so that is why I am standing. And I probably shouldn't say I haven't got a hope in hell, because people go, I ain't going to waste my vote on that geezer then, but you know I'm standing because if I didn't stand I'd be kicking myself for the rest of the year because I'll let those gits in power get away with it without at least doing something and I hope this year not only do people vote for me.But people up and down the country vote for independent candidates. So that's just a little bit about me Peter.
 
Okay I think there are what 8,000 seats is it? Something like that, up for grabs and of course we'll not even get into the complications of UK. I don't have any where I am here in London. All different parts of the country are different, so I'd encourage our viewers. This will go out on Thursday. We're doing this two days before, so it'll go out on Thursday, on election day. So if you're watching this live at eight o'clock on Thursday, you've got, what, two hours to go and go and cast your votes. Exactly, it is important, although I'm moving away towards the more apathy side, but we'll get into some of that. So you've stood before, you're standing again. Standing the first time it didn'tput you off standing. Why did you stand for the first time? Because a lot of people, I'm curious to know why they put their names forward for the first time. And I haven't been involved in local elections. I mean, 2019 was when I was overseeing the campaign with UKIP for European and locals.But I'm always curious to know why someone puts their name forward. If it's as an MP, it's glory, fame, I guess, although I would debate that, but locals is different. So why did you start originally as a local candidate?
 
In 2021, I mean, I sort of work and move, you know, I keep myself to myself generally, but in a sort of my social world, my connections within the city, I sort of loosely operate amongst political people. And my friend Danny Bamping in 2021 said, look, there's a seat, there's no one standing as an independent in Beverall, do you want to stand? This was at the I wouldn't say the height of the pandemic, but we had had 12 months of the pandemic.Everyone was running around in masks. The vaccine campaign had just started, that we were still in some sort of lockdown in my city and right across the UK. People had still lost their minds. I was getting incredibly worried about what was coming down the line in the future. Plus I'm a teacher by training. I saw what was going on in schools, schools have been shut down, kids have been put in masks, they were talking about vaccinating them, or the rumours were that they were going to go back on Matt Hancock's word, and we also have a god-awful, I mean the worst local authority you can imagine at a time it was run by Labour, and we've got like the wokest of the woke in terms of Labour councillors and Labour candidates here, and so I thought I'm going to put my name down because, you know, I've got to do something.And at the time it was all about COVID. I've got to do something. And I really felt that just screaming and shouting on Twitter doesn't achieve anything. So that's why I stood.And I actually caused chaos and Labour diverted almost all of their attention and financial resources to the Pevrel Ward because Darren of Plymouth had a big Twitter account with 40,000 followers and I was making a lot of noise online so it was really good for the lols but the reality is having a big twitter presence doesn't translate into votes and I got five percent of the votes then, I have no idea what's going to happen now but I will say this Peter and I'll try and be careful of my language. People are more pissed off nowthan they were in 2021, when you were locked down in a mask and being jabbed up to your eyeballs, which is quite interesting. And it's 15 minute cities. And it's the nonsense of the Conservative Party that have really, really upset people. And they're not necessarily going, I'm going to vote for red, I'm not going to vote the other way, because they look at the alternative, which is Labour and Keir Starmer. And the goons that we've got as candidates, Labour candidates here, you know, with their green hair and still wearing masks, there is a good opportunity for other parties and independent candidates to come through, even if it's just on a protest vote.So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm going to do better than the 5% I got last time, even though I'm standing in a different ward.Obviously, you've looked at the other parties and made a decision that actually none of them are any good and of course there are alternative views for the other parties, although they're becoming more reduced. But obviously if you're getting involved in politics the first thought is you know I should get involved in one of the political parties and get to know the local community, get to know the local association and then put myself forward. That's kind of the traditional process in the UK. We traditionally have not done independence, well we do more locals but it's still not the norm really. But you've obviously discounted other parties and decided to do it as an independent. How did you assess that when you looked at the other parties?How did you kind of make that assessment that none of them? and give me your thoughts.I really do want to hear them.
I never considered for one second ever being part of the Conservatives or the Labour Party.And since Brexit it's been quite obvious to anyone who's paying even the slightest bit of attention to what's going on in the political environment that neither Labour or the Conservatives represent you. People go and vote, they're going to vote blue, going to vote red, and you know, and that's what people do. But then you're voting for a party to make decisions, not for an individual who might live in your community, care about the place, care about that. So for me, Plymouth is my home. I'm Darren of Plymouth, for God's sake. It's literally in my my little nickname, moniker. I spend most of my time in St. Peter on the waterfront. It's an absolutely beautiful area of the city that's just been trashed because of the the trees that have been cut down and because of their attack on statues you know Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawking's name has been taken down as a street name because he's a racist colonialist you know, the parties don't care about that they're following instructions from higher up they're following down here in Plymouth they're taking instructions from London in London they're taking instructions from the World Economic Forum or the UN or the WHO or whoever. Yeah, they don't represent you.But trying to break that cycle of behaviour, voting behaviour in the public is incredibly difficult. And I'll give you a good example. In 2021, I was up on the Ho, which is, you know, very famous part of Plymouth, it's beautiful, sea views and there was some elderly ladies there.And they had just voted in the local election. It was the voting day on Thursday, 2021.You know, two years ago today. And I was explaining to them, with the other independent candidates, how it, exactly what I was saying, if you want change, don't vote for Conservatives, don't vote for Labour, because it's just a continuation of what you've already had.And that's bloody obvious. And they agreed, they agreed with everything I was saying. And I was like, who did you vote for then? Oh, we always vote Conservative. And this literally happened.And I'm just standing there, jaw on the floor that you've just agreed with everything I said about why you should vote for independent candidates or some small parties that are trying to fracture or move away from the mainstream political system and you've just gone and voted blue and red.And the reason people do that is because we've been indoctrinated all our lives. You're conservative.You're Labour, your right, your left, and people just vote in accordance with this behaviour that's sort of been implanted in us right from schooling until adulthood. And it's very, very difficult to break that train of thinking. I'm hopeful this year, but at the same time, I know that when people turn up at the ballot, they might be walking all the way up to the ballot box, I'm going to vote independent, I'm going to vote for this person and when they get there they go wasted vote and vote Conservative or Labour. And if that happens again here, just as it might happen in the general election which is likely to follow on from the locals, then we're just going to be stuck in the same shit show that we have been in for the last 3, 6, 10, 20 years, go back as far as you like. Nothing will change until we get Conservatives and get Labour out of government, especially local government, yeah, because that will then filter up through to London and we might be able to, you know, enact some real changes. Maybe if we did that right across the country, there wouldn't be any more 15-minute city talk.I'm assuming that when you mentioned at the beginning about the, was the trans issue in schools and your vocal on that, so that comes from a more common sense, socially conservative, you look at around and concern of how things are changing for the worse and how things that were truth, that were normality are suddenly turned on their head.But then that would probably make you look at some of the other smaller parties and I'm wondering why you didn't look at them, who maybe have traditionally been more on the right, traditionally been more, well, we need to conserve what we have as our culture.That's been the general understanding and view of them that maybe hasn't necessarily transcribed out.But why did you discount them?Because I would still be taking direction from somebody. I'm an independent person, I'm an individual, I'm a free thinker, and the only interest I have, if I was to be successful in this election, is to represent the wishes of the people who live in that ward.And a lot of them may not be conservative. A lot of them won't necessarily be, you know, left-leaning.I already know a load of them are very, very, very woke and are obviously not going to vote for me, but I need to be my own person and I considered the Heritage Party. I've spoken with Dave Kurten in particular, I've had him on my show on TNT, lovely bloke, also a fellow chemist and we had a lot in common, but I would still be representing not the people, there would be that extra chain, there would be that like um a go between between me and the people of Plymouth. I would have to go through the heritage party or we'd have to go through UKIP or I mean there is a reform candidate, Reform did contact me and I said I'm not representing any party I'm independent and the thing about democracy especially at local levels it should be independent people who are sitting in our chambers here, you know every seat should be somebody from this city, especially you know hopefully they live in that ward as well and that they they have an interest and skin in the game in the city and I think a lot of our councillors either in Plymouth and elsewhere across the country don't have that. They're conservative first, they're Reform first, whatever, then they're the representatives of the people. I'm just going to be a representative of the people if I win.
 
Tell me, you talked about the conversations you have with people, I remember the conversation I had that really hit me, it was ages ago, probably about 15 years ago in the Church I go to in London, big, big black majority Church, and having the conversations with the congregation members as it came up to the election, I would list some policies and they would say, awful, awful, awful.And I said, well, those are Labour policies. They'd say, yeah, but we will probably vote Labour.We always vote Labour.
And it's that, as you said, that weird gulf between people's views and how they've been tribalized and forced into voting all their lives.And people would have told me, well, you know, my parents voted for Labour.Or it could be flip side. My parents voted for Conservative, therefore I do.And I said, well, have you thought about it? Looked at the policies?No, it's just show me the red or show me the blue and I'll tick.Um so yeah it's a similar.
 
They don't even look at the candidate. They don't even look at the candidate. In 2021 I stood against a conservative guy called John Mahoney. Yeah I actually had an argument with him. He said to me, he's a doctor yeah, he said to me I will wait five years to find out if there's any uh adverse events or side effects from the vaccine and I was like, you're a doctor mate yeah he won yeah he didn't campaign he literally for a few days just before the election, just went around and chucked a few leaflets about, people turned up and just went, blue. They don't even know who he is, blue.Yeah? Out all red, you know? That's what people do. And so they don't even look into who they're voting for, they just turn up at the ballot box if they're a voter and vote red or blue. And, you know, the problem with politics is inherent in what I just said there, i.e. our country and, the world is run by the people who turn up. And usually the people who turn up aren't the sort of people who should be running the world. And you know, how do we get people out to vote? Imagine if there was 100% turnout. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Conservative and Labour wouldn't be winning all the time.
 
Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, you look at the vote share and how they get in is bonkers. I think that people misunderstand the power of what happens at the local level.People see Westminster as the place where politics happens, where true decisions are made, but you stand as local candidate, you have seen and you understand the reality that actually decisions are made at the local level. If Westminster doesn't sit for two months, three months, the country carries on. Actually, when a local council doesn't sit for whatever reason, suddenly there are issues with schools, there are issues with bins, there are issues with local services, And that's it's, at the local level that the country actually works.
Yeah, that's right. I mean, you know, I bought at the same in the same breath.You know, we're talking about the trees because that is a look.It's even made the newspaper again today.It was a massive national story and scandal, that tree, the decision to support the felling of those trees, although it didn't directly, to my knowledge, come from London.London did say, here's a pot of money.Do you want that money?Cut down the trees. Yeah. If you don't cut down the trees and begin this project, we take that pot of money away.And that is how the local authorities are influenced. So even though decision-making is made down, made at the local level, it's still in accordance with the wishes of their party at London, and government, doesn't matter who's in power, they're the ones who control the purse strings.And that, you know, that's the cycle of political influence and decision making that needs to be broken.There is a council in the UK, as far as I understand, and I didn't Google or check this before I come on, Frome, that's wholly independent.And if you go to that council, and you go to Frome's, as I say, not to the council, but if you go to the Frome, it's beautiful!And it's great. All the services are provided, there's no in-fighting like we have here in Plymouth where we've had the last four years all they've done is fight against each other and not actually achieve anything because it's just you know if red says that it's left.Then blue goes oh I'm going right. There's no cooperation between the parties in my city at the local level, there's no saying oh this is going to be in the interest of all the people and Plymouth, so let's work together on that, they will just fight each other no matter what the decision is that needs to be made. And so, yeah, all the action happens at local level and I will also say this, the corruption is off the scale at the local level. It isn't until you sort of dip your toes into local politics do you realize the level of corruption and the underhanded dirty tactics that will be employed particularly by the established political parties in order to get rid of any opposition. I am now the most racist person in Plymouth and it's been banded all around social media. I mean I think it's a badge of honour. When I asked why am I the most racist person in Plymouth, they didn't have an answer. They couldn't even tell me. But the mud sticks unfortunately.
 
Well it does. The issue of the trees issue is intriguing. I remember reading about it, I remember reading that the leader of the Conservative Council then stepped down over it.And it's amazing how you do see pockets of this happening, not enough at all, we need to learn from the French, the one thing we need to learn from the French maybe, is that resistance, that pushback, that standing up for what you believe in your area, in your community. And it was heartening to see that pushback from the local community which forced the Conservative leader out.And I guess that's what you want to see more of, you want to see local people standing up for local issues.
 
Yeah of course, you know, and again it should be local people. I mean that tree, the tree massacre, the great Plymouth tree massacre, is a really good sort of distillation to use a chemo chemistry term distillation of the problem yeah, the council were like we need to get rid of these trees so we can begin this project so we can get that pot of money from central government and that money will then be continuous throughout the next 12 months of our budget so that was their thinking, then the public went here 16 000 signatures said don't cut down the trees. And so the leaderunder some influence from the sitting establishment of Plymouth City Council, the people who are there permanently, and that's another issue, you know, the employees or thepublic sector workers, that's a separate issue because they don't get voted in, under pressure from them because they want the money for the business that is Plymouth City Council, wrote an executive decision. I don't know what Richard Bingley was thinking at the time, And a little bit on Richard Bingley, and I'm sorry I'll jump around, he's ex-Labour, ex-UKIP, he started Save Our Statues, yeah, but he wants to rename Sir John Hawking Square, Zelensky Square. Can you believe it? I mean I really am going to f***ing blind in a minute just thinking about it. And then he become Conservative, I think he was also an Independent, he might have even been a Green at some point. So these are the sort of people that put themselves forward to be in positions of power. They're only interested in the position and they're only interested in the power. They're not interested in representing the people. Anyway he wrote an executive order two hours later they cut the trees down under the cover of darkness and yeah the public are super, even now, super, super unhappy about what happened. The trees are still all there.I haven't walked through the city centre today, they're about to be removed but there's some squabbling going on. But we don't live in a democracy, Peter, and nationally we don't live in a democracy. And I find it very, very concerning for the future because I suspect that thatsemblance, the illusion of democracy that we've always lived under, even that is now dead. So I think these local elections, from my perspective, is my last opportunity really to stand up, be counted, see if I can win, make a difference, and with a group of other independent candidates to see if we can get in and have a voting bloc in Plymouth because there won't be any more local elections for another two years because of the GE. And if you're a conspiracy theorist like me, you know, these elections could well sort of run down and be a thing of the past as the globalists get their way and remove sovereignty from countries. And the rumour is, after these local elections, because the Tories are going to get absolutely wiped out, I suspect, in these 8,000 seats that are up, there is going to be a GE announced probably straight after the local elections, and this country is going to go into proper crazy town for for a few months and we're going to end up with a Labour government.So you know it's it's it's, if you're worried about a Labour government then you'll know what I mean when I say it's quite scary the prospect of what can happen to the UK in the next 12 to 18 months.You know it is and I've also seen those stories of that election general election being called soon after and I think that's how it will go. Let me ask, I'll not jump in on the Richard Bingley because I know Richard from my UKIP days but I scratched my head on that decision so I'll leave it at that but can I ask you about apathy, voter apathy, apathy of individuals. You talk to people and we talk about how people were tribal but also you have the apathy involved and just where there's no desire, no engagement. A lot of that is the fault of the system for not engaging with the voter and expecting them to do their juty and tick that box whenever the alarm bell goes, whenever the bell goes immediately you must jump up and you must respond and then shut up and keep quiet for the next four or five years. How do you kind of combat that?You obviously have stood, not as a party machine but independent and you talk to people, you engage with individuals about the political system, encouraging them to cast their vote for you.How is there a way past that apathy?Sorry for the for the dead air but I mean I'm shrugging my shoulders saying is all I know is that it exists. I don't know how to combat it. It's very difficult as an independent because you're on your own, you don't have a party machine behind you. You know, I've got help, I've had, I've been fortunate that I've had quite a few people volunteer to help me to go, around knocking doors and canvas. Every single person that I have spoken to, they've gone, I've got arm, you're interested in the elections, you can see their face, they're like, don't come near me, you're obviously a politician, I don't want nothing to do with you, look at the state the country and it takes me a little while to go, you know, oh I'm an independent candidate, I'm not, I'm financing myself, I'm not, I'm not part of a political party, but to then go, we need you to get out and vote.You can see that these people don't want to vote and the turnout typically on a local election by ward roughly is about 40 percent. So that means the people in Plymouth or wherever you might be in the country, 60 percent is a group of people that doesn't have a representative.They're being ruled over by the 40 percent or the 30 percent and sometimes turn out as low as 20 percent. And so, as I said before, we're ruled over by those that just turn up or those thatPut themselves down as a candidate for Labour or Conservative or whatever. And again, you know, I've got the ballot paper expecting to see quite a few independent candidates this year because people are pissed off. There isn't. Most wards don't even have an independent candidate.And what I'm getting from social media from around the country is that there aren't that many independent candidates standing. And so again we're just going to end up with red or blue and the same old nonsense going on and that just increases voter apathy, it increases disengagement in the political process and so people don't go out and vote because they think what's the point it's going to end up red or blue anyway. So I don't know what the answer is. I'll tell you what the political establishment don't want, 100% voter turnout. Maybe we could do something like Australia and just say it's mandatory. You must, or on pain of a smallish fine, go out and vote.And in Australia, I think it's $30 or $60 or whatever, about 30 pounds, if you don't go out and vote. So they have very, very high turnouts. And as long as somebody isn't ballot stuffing or or rigging the election will probably have very, very different results and we may end up with a lot more independent candidates in positions of power representing the people of their community.I know that voter turnout is going to be particularly low this year. I'm pretty certain.It'll either be extraordinarily high or extraordinarily low. It depends on how people react to how pissed off they are. In Plymouth, super pissed off. Every single person that I've spoke to.
I think people are blown away when you show them the numbers because you can get in as a local candidate for a thousand votes. It can be less than that depending on the makeup. And people are foolish enough and there are many people who are who think actually I voted Conservative, I'm going to change my vote, I'm going to vote Labour. And I think well voting for Sir Keir Stammer, but what's going to be the massive difference for voting for, Rishi Sunak, someone more wealthy than the Sovereign? It's not. You need to think outside that little box, and yet people are fixated on that. So people who choose to go one or the other.It's not going to make any difference. They're just going to get the same.
That it's a mono-party. The reds and the blues of the UK, the reds and the blues of USA. I suspect they use red and blue in Canada and Australia. You see there's a common thread here. And one's conservative and one's not so conservative, apparently, which we should say one's a socialist and ones even more socialist. And so, you know, I think, who gives the goodanalogy. I can't remember who it was, but it's basically the difference between Coke and Pepsi. That's what you've got to vote for. One's a little bit sweeter than the other, but the reality is you're getting the same drink. And if you vote Conservative or Labour, they're owned by the same people, the same lobbyists are going in and dealing with these politicians, whether at local level or national level, and the same decision making is going to be made. If anyone here who's listening right now thinks that voting for Labour in the local elections or in the general election that's coming up is going to make a sea change to the direction this country is coming in. I've got a bridge that you can buy off me. I've got a couple of bridges and one of them is Tamar Bridge. Good bridge that is. Yeah, you can buy that off me if you think that that's going to happen because it's not. In fact, voting in Labour is probably the worst. I would rather people stick with the Conservatives than vote in Labour because, you know, if you look at what happened during the Covid period, what did Labour want to do? They wanted to lock you down harder, jab you up more, stick you in masks more, shut down the schools more. They wanted all of that and it'll be the same in the future. It won't just be 15-minute cities, they're going to make it 10-minute cities or 5-minute cities. So that's what you get if you vote for Pepsi and, if you vote for Coke, you're just going to get the same. But people don't seem to realise that because they are dyed in the wool, red and blue, they can't think any other way.And their behaviour when they go to the ballot box is mechanical. And the other thing is, the other argument I get is, don't vote at all. Everybody should not vote and withdraw their power. And I don't know what to do about that argument either, because it's sort of correct in some ways, but they can't see the other side, i.e. if everybody turned out to vote, you might be able to enact some change.
 
Maybe it's just voting for independent, maybe it's just people going and actually disregarding the other parties and simply saying well I'm just going to put an x beside independent and do something completely different, and see if that changes things.Uh well it would, wouldn't it? It would. However there's another issue of voting independent, I'm making my candidacy sound weaker and weaker as I go along, is I don't have a powerful machine behind me and so let's just say I did get voted in at Plymouth and I've got 15 Labour councillors and 15 Conservative councillors, a couple of Greens who just got in because of the of the tree huggers and then there's me as an independent candidate. They don't care if I'm there or not, I make no difference and I've got no clout, I've got no financial resources, I've got no political influence or power behind me to make any decisions. If there were 15 independent councillors in Plymouth or you know in any local authority then we can really make a difference because they require our vote and as far as I'm concerned I'm lent a vote in the guise of old Ben. You lend me your vote and I do with that as you wish and if I don't then you take that vote away from me. That sort of aspect of democracy is gone with party politics.
 
Completely and I think people, I think the Conservatives' tagline should be vote Conservative slightly better than Labour, absolutely just their margins, it's not going to be any massive change. But obviously if you get voted in it is a position, it's possibly less about the absolute power that you will wield but it is about that platform that you are afforded as an elected official and you can use that platform to speak good. So that I think is the benefit of local independent candidates winning the seats and using that position.Of course it is. I want to be able to speak out. I'm not interested in gaining power.Like you said, a platform. I want that platform so that I can be heard and so that I can speak out on the issues that affect my city and actually affect us nationally and globally.When you think about things like 15-minute cities, which are coming down the line, which is actually really interesting Peter, because a lot of people that I've spoken to and a lot of messages that I've received have all been about 15-minute cities. So for those of you that are listening, if you don't want 15-minute cities and you've got two hours left to go out and vote, go vote for your independent councillor, because he's probably standing for that one of those for that particular reason, he's he's not aware of all the other conspiracies, but he is aware of the 15 minute cities. And it's like a gateway conspiracy. 15 minute cities is a way of getting in. And you can work backwards from the 15 minute cities to some of the other stuff that people have dismissed, because the BBC have told them not to listen to it. So I would be using that platform to speak out on those issues and it's why the trees were cut down.
Yeah and and the gap between conspiracy and reality, actually when you look at 15 Minute Cities that is extremely short and that's I think why it's worried people because it is right here at our doorstep in cities all across the UK.Can I just, the last 10 minutes or so, can I ask you about kind of you getting the, voice out on a range of issues, and obviously one of those is TNT radio, and it intrigues me.It's something that I hadn't come across until maybe a couple of months ago.Fantastic range of individuals on so many programs. I mean, tell us about that and how that gets your message out. And why should people tune in and listen to your wisdom on a Sunday?Oh, definitely. You definitely want to be listening to my wisdom, or should I say my guest's wisdom? I'm not that wise. I just sit there and let them talk and do the heavy lifting.Yeah, TNT is a very interesting setup. I started working with them as a regular guest, just over 12 months ago, beginning of 2022. By the summer, I was doing bit part work for them By September, I was a full-time employee.As I said, I come in and do news segments for 10 minutes throughout the day, and then I have my own show at weekends. There are other great shows.Got Locked and Loaded with Rick Munn, really, really good show.Patrick Henningsen is on at 5 PM, I believe, weekdays for a couple of hours.We've got James Freeman.Katie Hopkins has now joined us, so she's on at nine o'clock every morning.So we have, it has gradually grown and our only brief really is that we must do everything we can to try and tell nothing but the truth regardless of it's how controversial it is, regardless of how opposed it is to mainstream narratives, to what the BBC is saying, to what Sky is saying, CNN and so on. So that's our only brief and just to get put that into some sort of context, I said, um... I said in one of my news reports, at TNT we try to tell what we believe is the truth.I got an email for saying that and I got my ass reamed because it's like, nah, you tell the truth, not what you believe to be the truth, not your truth, you tell the truth. And we have tried to do that on a variety of issues ranging from Ukraine war, which I speak about quite regularly, or the Ukraine conflict, COVID, 15-minute cities as we've already brought up, all the conspiracies, all the stuff that you're being told isn't true, pay no attention, look over here at the nice little pink fluffy bunny rabbit, don't look over here at the 15-minute city stuff.We're trying to get that out and our station is gradually growing. We've had about 4 million, 5 million downloads in the last 12 months, which is pretty good for the first year.There's quite a lot of money being thrown at the station as well to make it successful.And I hope it continues in the same vein. And I manage to stay working for them because I'm overjoyed that after literally studying conspiracies for 20 odd years, I now get to talk about them. And they've all come true, Peter, which is the scary part. They've all actually come true. That wasn't meant to happen. It used to be a fantasy world that I lived in.They do. And I'm glad that we don't have to listen to your truth. I'm glad we can listen to the truth, so which is something more than that could be the same thing. But obviously you don't have the issue, that many of our viewers saw what happened to Mark Steyn on GB News removed because simply he was highlighting those who've been vaccine injured. TNT Radio was different, you have that freedom to talk, is that correct?
 
Yeah, we're not got any oversight by Ofcom in the UK at the moment. We are internet based. We're broadcast out of Brisbane in Australia. We are global. We are a group of people dotted all over the world. I speak to George Eliasson every night.He's in every afternoon. He's in the Donbass there. So we've got some people situated everywhere. We've got people in Japan. We've got people in South America, people in Europe, Australia, USA, so on. And we're just a group of people basically in a room like I am, like you can see in my front room, and we are broadcast over the internet. However, that might change with this online harms bill that's being put through, and they want Ofcom to have oversight of internet-based communications. And if so, TNT may fall underneath that. And if that's the case, then obviously you're you're going to have to fear for the UK broadcast of TNT Radio because Ofcom would slash it within 24 hours if they could, I'm sure.Yeah, well, that is really frightening seeing what's happened in Ireland is also, I think, a precursor to what we are facing. And just to say people can obviously they can call in and they can participate. Is that correct?
 
Yeah, we have call in shows. So nine o'clock and ten o'clock shows with Katie, Rick and Natalie Chill. You are able to call in every morning, have your say, you can call in and discuss, you know, over what they're talking about, or you'd probably be quite happy just to listen to you come in with a new topic and ask for a discussion on just about anything that's in the current news cycle.
 
Oh that's well, I think people would enjoy their morning to give a call in and you can give Katie your wisdom, there's no bigger firecracker than Katie Hopkins, we've had on before and I've got to know over the years. Darren, thank you for your time today. It's great to hear about what you're doing, standing in the locals. Again, we'll leave our viewers and listeners with the encouragement that if they haven't voted, as they'll be listening to this on Thursday evening, do get out and get to your local polling booth and cast your vote. And if you're not sure who to vote, then pick an independent.As Darren said. And thank you, Darren, for sharing what you're doing on TNT Radio. Love listening to it. And what a wide range of individuals that are on there. So thank you.
I have to get you on. I have to get you on my Sunday show, Peter.
So I'm yours whenever.
 
I will send you a message after that. And we'll book a date.
Sounds good. But to our viewers and our listeners, do make sure and go out and vote. Thank you for tuning in. I will be back with you shortly. So thank you and goodbye.
 
Cheers.

Tina Ramirez - The Road to State Senate: CRT, Crime and Election Integrity

Tina Ramirez has championed religious freedom and human rights all over the world for her whole working life. She now brings that experience, knowledge and passion to the US political scene by standing for The State Senate in Virginia. She has extensive political experience from her role as a foreign policy advisor for numerous Members of Congress. Her boldness in speaking up on issues such as Critical Race Theory, even when she was advised that it was too contentious shows desire to speak truth irrespective of the consequences. This is one lady who truly believes what she stands for so join us this episode to be inspired as you listen to Tina as she shares how she will make a difference in the Virginia Senate.Whether crafting legislation, securing the release of imprisoned victims, or engaging foreign dignitaries, Tina Ramirez has worked diligently to bring greater freedom and dignity to people around the world. From her early days as a high school teacher, through recent years in charge of an international non-profit organization, she has committed her entire life to service and to the preservation of human rights for all people.While working for the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, she developed policies to improve religious freedom in several countries. As a Foreign Policy Advisor for numerous members of Congress, she helped start and direct the bi-partisan Congressional International Religious Freedom Caucus.In 2013, she used her experience to create Hardwired Global, an organization that addresses the root causes of religious conflict and works to defend the rights of the oppressed. She has since worked in more than 30 countries and trained hundreds of journalists, lawyers, religious leaders, and teachers. Tina’s work has provided a simple, inexpensive way to counter persecution and build respect for religious freedom globally that is working. She has testified before the U.S. Congress, the United Nations, and the African Union, and has published several articles and books related to her work on human rights and religious freedom.Tina was raised near her mother’s large, extended family in Powhatan County, Virginia where her father founded a medical practice and her mother ran a midwifery practice. Her parents, both second-generation descendants of Mexican and Czech immigrants and both Air Force Veterans, influenced Tina’s passion for service, freedom, and work with people worldwide. For Tina, Chesterfield is more than home: as the birthplace of religious freedom in America, it embodies her life-long work and calling. Tina now lives in Chesterfield with her daughter, Abigail.Follow and Support Tina...WEBSITE: https://tinaramirez.com/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/TinaRamirezVA?s=20FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TinaRamirezVA/Hardwired Global...WEBSITE: https://www.hardwiredglobal.org/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/HardwiredOrg?s=20Interview recorded 26.4.23
 
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(Hearts of Oak)
Hello Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up with Tina Ramirez, who is a candidate for the Virginia Senate, the 12th district. I first met Tina last year when I was over stateside, and I followed her work on foreign policy, on religious engagement, regarding democracy in many other countries. I mean, she's worked all over the world in training individuals up to try and bring peace and stability to many countries.And she's bringing that experience to the U.S political environment, to the Senate there, the state Senate in Virginia.So we talk about a range of issues that she is passionate about.There's no end to that. But we only took four.Talk about CRT, critical race theory, why she's been so vocal on this.Years ago, I remember reading pieces of her discussing this.She's been warned off it. But no, she's this is vital to speak about this.So we talk about that and the impact on children in the education system in America.We talk about the economy, how there are so many issues with the economy and how the Democrats seem to be purposely wanting to destroy it.We talk about crime, homelessness, drugs and the mess that some of the cities are in America.So she talks about her passion on fixing that, on addressing some of those underlying issues.And then we end up with election integrity. and that's one of her issues on her website.You can click that and get the list, securing elections, making sure they're fair and free.And she talks about why this is such a vital area and what needs to be done to make sure that elections are free and fair for every US citizen.I know you'll enjoy listening to Tina. She has inspired me with her foreign policy work and maybe if you're stateside in Virginia, you'll even be able to vote for her.So here's Tina.Tina Ramirez, thank you so much for joining us today.
 
(Tina Ramirez)
Peter, thanks for having me. I'm super excited to be on your show.Oh, it's great, and I had the privilege of meeting you last year. We'll get into that.But for the viewers, you can find Tina @TinaRamirezVA. TinaRamirez.com is the website, the campaign website, and we're going to get into that.But Tina is the founder of Hardwired Global that addresses the root causes of religious conflict trains and equips local leaders around the world and the other part of her many talents that we will focus on today is that she is a senate candidate for Virginia's 12th district. Now Tina I said I had the privilege of spending time with you the end of last year and our US viewers may know you but for the sake of our UK viewers could you just take a moment or two and introduce yourself?
 
Absolutely. Thank you, Peter. So I, as Peter mentioned, I run an organization called Hardwired Global. We believe that everyone is hardwired to be free and we fight for religious freedom and the freedom of conscience around the world and helping governments and people that want to have freedom secure that freedom through laws and educational policies that promote their fundamental rights. And so I work all over the world, Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria, many countries that that are failing their people and where the people need to secure their freedom.But I also work in the United States to help secure freedom here as well.I train teachers across the United States to counter woke indoctrination and Marxist ideas and to ensure that people have really the constitutional freedoms here in America that we understand preserved and protected in future generations through education.The religious freedom is something I've built my life upon and I want it secured not just around the world, but I want it to remain protected here in America, and so I've fought throughout my life for that. I worked at the US Congress building a caucus on religious freedom and travel globally, Defending persecuted people and worked for the Becket fund which defended hobby lobby before the supreme court, 90 protecting the rights of conscience of businesses against being forced to provide abortifacient drugs So I have a long history and background, but right now I'm also running for the state senate in Virginia, And this is a critical election because as many of your viewers know the states are really the determiners of fair election laws and, What's going to happen moving forward in our country? And so I am running for a Senate seat That's pivotal to ensuring that we have the majority here in Virginia for the Republican Party to protect those conservative values.
 
Excellent. Thank you so much for that before we jump in if I can just play your I think your campaign ad, which I saw on your Twitter feed, just came out earlier this month, but let me play this 30-second for our viewers.
(video plays)
Over 100 years ago, my great-grandparents came to this country legally, the right way, to pursue the American dream.My grandfather proudly served during World War II to protect American freedom, and it, was my grandfather's service that inspired me to found an organization that defends religious freedom in America and around the world.Today, do-nothing career politicians are failing to defend our conservative freedoms in Virginia.I'm Tina Ramirez. Like you, I've had enough.As your state senator, I'll be your conservative fighter.Now, there are a whole load of areas we could get into, but I think we'll just aim for maybe three or four issues.One of them is CRT, critical race theory. And I remember looking back and you'd written a piece saying critical race theory divides families and you're a mom with a biracial child.And that, I guess, brings a personal concern to this debate.Maybe you want to tell us why you've been so vocal against CRT.Yeah, thank you, Peter. Well, I'm a single mother as well. And so, you know, many people saw during COVID and the shutdown of our schools, how parents were becoming more and more aware of what was going on in the classroom because our kids were sitting in front of computer screens. And we were seeing first hand through Zoom classroom sessions that children were essentially being indoctrinated in a woke ideology that was rooted in Marxist theory.And this is critical race theory. And I've read all of the articles that they were promoting throughout Virginia in our school system on this, and they were very open about the fact that it was rooted in Marxist theory and Marxist ideology, and that they were set on overturning the white heterosexual male Christian establishment to elevate minority people, regardless of any kind of merit or justification just based on the colour of their skin and to suppress the other group really with justification for any violence needed to overthrow the other category of people.And I just, I saw, I started reading this and seeing it, seeing it in our schools.I had a local junior high school here where they showed a video of a young boy, a white male child apologizing for his whiteness, apologizing to females, apologizing for so many things that this young student had never been responsible for, but this was part of the indoctrination that was taking place in schools across Virginia.And that was just the tip of the iceberg. But I was very vocal about this a few years ago when it erupted.I was one of the first people running for office to expose what was going on and to speak out on the news about it.And I remember even other Republicans saying to me, don't talk about this. Don't touch it.It's, you know, it's not a good thing for you to do politically.And I just thought, are you kidding me? I'm a Hispanic mother of a biracial child.And yet, because of the colour of my skin, you want me to allow the public school system to teach herthat I am somehow oppressive and an oppressor and need to be violently overtaken within our country because of the colour of my skin, which is essentially what they were teaching.And they were dividing my family. And I wasn't going to have anything to do with that.So I did speak out vocally. I think it's a travesty here in Virginia that, this was happening, but it wasn't just happening here. It was happening all across the United States where it really comes out of, I think, a lot of what we saw with the Obama administration where he went on this apology tour around the world saying, I'm so sorry for America being so great, as though we should somehow apologize for our greatness and for the freedom that we've brought millions of people around the world, trillions of people.It's freedoms that I fought for around the world that we've been given the blessing of being able to fight for because of the freedom we have here.So to see those freedoms trampled on and then Marxist theory promoted in our classrooms, which I studied human rights as a conservative.I fought for human rights around the world for people that don't have it. And human rights is based in an idea of inherent human dignity and value. So to see that thrown out the window for Marxism, which we literally fought a world war against, to me, it was just unconscionable. And that's why I've spoken out so much against it.And there's so much more I can talk about, but I'm sure you've seen it too, Peter. And Virginia really was at the precipice of this fight here in America. And so we had to, as parents, as mothers, as citizens, we had to fight against this.Well, no, it's a big issue, obviously. It's not as big a concern here in the UK, and I live in London, which is a very mixed city, and you, friends, colleagues, neighbours from all over the world, every background, ethnicity, and my concern, certainly having two children as well, growing up here, is that this divides, is that this puts them and us and makes people see, makes children see their friends through the colour of their skin and not just as being a friend.
Right. Well, and Martin Luther King taught us to not judge people based on the colour of their skin, to see beyond that, to judge them on the value of their character. And this completely turned that thought out of its head, but it really was just the beginning. So under the Northam administration here in Virginia, a Democrat, the previous governor of Virginia. He started implementing policies where he was promoting this thing called the Critical Inquiry Initiative across Virginia. And so seven different school districts across Virginia or counties adopted critical race theory in the training of their teachers and in their school curriculum.And the small, very rural country town that I grew up in, Powhatan, right next to where I live right now, adopted this training program and was implementing these really racist ideas and Marxist ideas into their classroom.So we began to see children extremely confused, but also beginning to lack the ability to have critical thinking about differences of opinion and belief now I fought for religious freedom and the freedom of conscience around the world so my whole my whole life for the last 20 years of my career has been built upon, teaching people how to have verychallenging diverse opinions brought out into open form of a public debate in this marketplace of ideas and not to be afraid of different ideas but to allow them to flourish because that's where freedom and civil society and and civil discourse and and our freedoms really evolve is within that free public space of ideas, But they wanted to shut that down here in Virginia and then people that disagreed with them were being labelled hateful, racist, oppressors essentially and so, you know, that's not that's not what America is all about that's not what a civil discourse is all about. That's how you shut down freedom. That's how you force people to conform andthat's really the end of any kind of civil freedom in our society and so that's why we had to fight against it. But when we started to see what was happening, parents started speaking out in northern, Virginia I helped a woman who's actually, you know a Democrat not even a Republican but she essentially I think saw the light because she was in, she was an Indian woman whose son was going to one of the top schools here in Virginia it was a science and technology school andthe Northam administration wasn't just teaching critical race theory and, that being problematic in the school and as an Indian American she was then put in the category of an oppressor, which was insane. But because her socioeconomic class was higher than Hispanics and Blacks, they then began to put in place equity policies in the schools. And in her school in particular, which was a very advanced governor's school, like a charter school here in Virginia and we only have seven.The new policies would have promoted Blacks and Hispanics above other categories of, Virginians, so Indian Americans, Caucasian Americans, etc, even if they didn't excel on their on their scores to get into the school as well as the others did so they're basically going to promote people that without merit, Over people that had actually worked so hard to get into these schools like her son so she I helped her and she filed a lawsuit against the state of Virginia for basically a violation of the Civil Rights Code, in title 9 which which goes against any kind of inequalities and racism which is essentially what they were promoting my daughter obviously is black I'm Hispanic and so I don't think that we need them to lower the bar for us to get into a school I find that offensive, I find it offensive for my daughter and I think many people of diverse backgrounds find it offensive and you know Blacks and Hispanics shouldn't be promoted over Indians or Caucasians or vice versa in any way this is racism and that's what the Northam administration was promoting and then as we began to, unpackage not just that but everything else in Virginia we started seeing that they were promoting pornography in the schools and children's books that were promoting paedophilia even as low even into our elementary schools with kindergartners that could have viewed these images, and the democrats in charge here in Virginia were justifying all of this and saying that we as parents didn't have a right to challenge teachers or to challenge what was happening in the classroom and so I fought very hard over the last few years to promote school choice to promote freedom in our education to promote parents rights in our education because I don't think kids and any kids, not just my own, should be taught what to think. They should be taught how to think.They should be taught critical thinking. And it was all rooted back in this woke Marxist ideology that we've seen justrun rampant here in Virginia and cause so much chaos and confusion amongst our children.And so that's what we've been fighting here in Virginia.But I'm sure your viewers have seen this is not just a fight in Virginia.It's gone all across the United States where parents have woken up and seen what's going on in the classroom and they're fighting against it.
You know, I've seen many of those school board meetings and I wish we had those in the UK, but we don't. That's another story. But there's school board meetings of parents standing up and saying this is not acceptable.How does it fit in with elected officials? So the position of the Senate there.Can they then hold those schools to account, those school governors to account? How does it work?Because it has to be a partnership. It's the parents standing up in those school board meetings, but it's also the parents watching, listening, voting well, so that they get elected officials who can actually stop this happening across the schools.
 
Right. Well, so we've been very involved in helping to bring together those parent voices and organize and fight back. And so here in my area in Chesterfield County, we were able to organize a rally with over 200 parents overnight that just showed up and ensure that our board of supervisors then issued a vote to, or we put pressure on them, so they issued a vote to overturn critical race theory in our schools. And so at least here in Chesterfield County, we were somewhat protected, but there's so much more work that needs to be done. And then we helped over the last few years identify and support and get candidates to run for school board and the Board of Supervisors across Virginia to to help overturn these really bad decisions at the local level in our schools. And so that's been a critical area that I've been fighting over the last few years. And now obviously I'm running for state Senate. And in the Senate, a lot of these policies have been pushed at the administrative level from the, um, just by government bureaucrats in the Department of Education and elsewhere. And so our job is to hold them accountable and to reverse those policies.They have policies, for instance, on transgender,transgender policies in the schools that promote essentially that children can be indoctrinated in a lot of ideologies about their sexuality without parents knowing or having any say over what their, what the children are doing or being taught in schools.And so there's, there's so much ambiguity in the rules and the laws that the Northam Democratic administration previously had put in place that we have to reverse.But in Virginia, we won an election in 2021 with Governor Yunkin and the Lieutenant Governor and the Attorney General winning. So we have a Republican administration, we have a Republican House of Delegates, but we do not have a Republican Senate.And so over the last year and a half, they've been working extremely hard within the Republican Party to pass better laws and to reverse a lot of these bad policies in the schools, but they can't do it because everything gets blocked in the Senate.Essentially the democrats in the senate have said that there will be a brick wall against these policies that these conservative policies that governor Younkin and our republican majority want to pass and so, this election the reason it's so critical is that when we win this year and win my seat, which is one seat we have to flip and then another seat will need two seats to flip we will have the majority in the house in the senate we can start reversing, so much craziness that's been going on both in our schools, but also with our election system, and our ability to support the police and in so many other areas.So this election really is critical for that.And to make sure that we get back on track, you probably, some of your viewers probably saw a man whose daughter was raped in school and he protested at a school board meeting and then was dragged out and then labelled a terrorist by the Biden administration and literally had the FBI going after him to be a domestic terrorist because he was somehow disturbing the peace in the school board meeting.Well, he wasn't. What came out later was that his daughter had been raped.The school board tried to cover it up and he was protesting that and, he was, his voice was shut down. And so there's now a lawsuit out over this case I mean this father deserved his right to protect his child and in Virginia schools children aren't being protected and the rights of parents aren't being protected and there are a lot of laws and policies that have put in place under the Democrats that we need to reverse, protecting children from being raped in the schools, it was a transgender person that had gone into the bathroom and had raped his young daughter.These kinds of things have to stop.And so until we have people in office that can fight back against that and change or reverse these policies, our children aren't safe.And we, as parents, we're very concerned.
I think it's vital, again, just to repeat what you said about taking that majority and why exactly it's fallen along party lines so much, similar actually to the UK, across Europe as well, is another conversation.But it's good to know that parents, as they vote, they can actually make a difference.Because sometimes I think the public think possibly their vote isn't worth anything and things just happen as normal.But I think voting correctly and voting for you in the 12th district, And that puts someone in who will stand up for their values.Let me add there a couple of others. One, of course, is the economy, which affects every American, every Brit, every person, and it's the the cost of items.
And that's what really surprises people and affects people. And when you have to make those choices and we have sky high inflation, you have it there.Government spending like there is no tomorrow. How do you approach this issue as a candidate?
Yeah, Peter, every day I talk to people on the phone, at the doors, when I'm door knocking for the campaign, when I'm out about at the grocery store.Every day I meet people who are really struggling to just pay their bills.Yesterday I was at an antique store and a gentleman came in and was selling off two of his older electric guitars and I had a conversation with him and he said, look, before we never, my daughter never heard us talk about how we had to strap the belts up a little bit and and save money and struggling to pay for things.She never heard those conversations, you know, from 2016 to 2020, the economy is great under President Trump.And in the last couple of years, people like this, like this man have been selling things out of their home to just try to make ends meet and put food on the table to pay for gas.It's shocking that in a country where we have so much wealth and prosperity and we have so many opportunities that the average American is literally having to sell goods just to pay to put food on a table.They can't even afford gas to get to work sometimes because gas has gone so high.It's really hurting the American family. The tax policies are hurting the average American family who don't have places to hide it like big corporations or like, or who are not, or they're just, they're being overtaxed.I mean, our tax rate is at least 30% in middle America.And so a third of your income is going out the door, but when prices are twice as high or three times, four times as high as they used to be, you can't afford to live anymore.And I'm meeting people at every socioeconomic level now that are struggling to make ends meet and to do the just the normal things that they did with their families and so it's really heart-breaking to hear and it's even more heart-breaking then to see the not just the federal government but our local government here in Virginia.They had a surplus for several years during COVID, and they spent it.Did they think of saving for the future? Did they think of maybe things wouldn't be as, no, they just spend it.They spend it as though it's just going to be this constant stream that they can take from us and spend without recourse and responsibility. And the problem is Americans are hurting now.Virginians are hurting now.We don't have the resources that we had two to three years ago and our families are hurting and they need a relief.And when the governor tried to put forward a relief in the tax bill on cars and gas, the Democrats said, no, we're not gonna do it.And they voted against it. And so, two Democrats to the majority of Virginians voted against any kind of relief on our tax bill this past year.And this is hurting families. So we see inflation, but every day I'm hearing from people that they really, they can't make their food bills anymore because food is twice as expensive.I talked to farmers today, I talked to a farmer who was, he's in the middle of his wheat harvest, planting season.The cost of equipment just to plant has quadrupled. The cost of fertilizer has quadrupled.I have friends in the tire industry and auto industry. The cost of oil to do oil changes on cars has quadrupled.The cost of every commodity across the country has gone up two, three, four times.And they have to begin putting those costs back on customers.I talked to a restaurateur this week who said, Tina, we're just making ends meet.We can't continue to survive. I mean, restaurants were shut down during COVID.They are just trying to get out of it, but they can't afford to raise their cost four times as much for their customer, because then they'll lose all their customers, but they're bearing the cost and they can only survive for so much longer because reality is food is a lot more expensive now.These are just the everyday things that I'm hearing. And our government seems to have no clue that anyone's hurting and to just keep spending, as you said, like there's no tomorrow.And that's a major problem because it's not just, we're seeing that that's having an effect on the global situation with China and other countries trying to devalue the dollar and take greater control over other countries and resources globally, and put America and Western countries in a very, very difficult situation.And this is really a threat to democracy and human freedom everywhere in the world.And there's so many areas that I was surprised each time of being over the change in fuel costs filling up, but then I was really surprised going to supermarkets and seeing the price of food items. I thought we had it bad in the UK, but it seems to be much higher there.But again, when you look at the debate, I'm kind of confused. The Democrats don't seem to want to address it at all. And it's happening before your eyes. You drive past the fuel pumps and you can see the prices. You fill up your shopping basket, your shopping trolley, and you realize it's gone up by 10% than it was a month ago. Special offers are not there. And then on top of that, you've got the impact on the economy of, I guess, your southern border and what's happening there. But there's so many issues. And to me, and then on top of that, debt relief the different groups. And then when we mentioned CRT about payments to those who may be affected by slavery hundreds and hundreds of years ago, none of it has joined up thinking it seems to be the Democrats simply are just destroying, crashing the economy and Americans are just, basically cannon fodder. They're just in the middle, they're getting hit. And it's really strange when you look at it from the UK and you look at what's happening policy-wise and you think everything that's being done is just seemingly making the situation worse.
I think the thing that's most frustrating to me is I'm a single mother. I run a business. I have to balance my budget I have to make cuts to provide for my family and to ensure that I can take care of my daughter and I, have to make sure that my business has enough money going for the next year or two years, etc.Like I have to do this as an average American every American does but the government doesn't seem to think that they need to and when then when they talk about well we want to pay for the student loans of students that can't afford them, or we want to give out more handouts, or we want to let more people across the border to put a burden on our hospital and police system and everything else.They want to give everything away for free.They don't, and then they want to hurt the people in the middle like myself and most, average Americans that are the ones footing the bill.They have no concern for the average family that is struggling just to survive and take care of their family and do the right thing.I think that's what's so insane. I pay for my student loans.I am a single mother.I pay for my daughter. I take care of our family. I'm not looking for a handout.Why is it that the people that work hard, that pay their taxes, that take care of their families, that are running their businesses and creating wealth and opportunities for others are the ones suffering and struggling so that they can give things out to people that don't want to work, that want to come across the border illegally, that are not willing to go out and get a job, why is it that we're the ones being attacked?I am pro-family, I am pro-worker, I am pro-people, businesses that want to help the economy grow.Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has abandoned people that want to work and have merit.It goes back to the education conversation we just had. Under the Northam administration here in Virginia, we didn't know about this until just this year.It was exposed that for two to three years now.Schools were not allowing students that had been given merit awards for their excellence in education. They were they were, hiding their merit awards. They weren't telling the students about them, So they hid them because they thought that it was maybe racist or inequitable I don't know what their word was to tell students that over performed or that performed highly that they were given these merit awards, so these students who excelled were then entering into colleges and and not getting the scholarships or the advancement that they deserved, that they earned in college and paying for it themselves because the government said, well, it's inequitable.We want to lower the bar for you. We don't wanna give you a merit award.We've become a society where merit is being devalued. And as soon as that happens, you have an economy that's gonna crumble because who's gonna work in a system where hard work isn't valued anymore.The American society was built upon hard work and grit and opportunity.That's what people come here for. And so as soon as we lose that, what do we have as a society? And so I am absolutely fighting against these liberal woke policies that are destroying our country and the idea even that de Tocqueville talked about of the greatness of America.Tina, when you're talking there, it's the American dream that I'm thinking of.And of course that's been impacted massively by the financial hit, the economy hit, the debt burdens we talked about, but also it's crime is another way.I think when I went to LA for the first time back in April, I, it was the one city I felt unsafe in and looking at the homelessness, tent cities everywhere.Just actually on, yeah, in Europe we use trains, using the underground, the metro system, and there was a fight, bottles getting smashed, and it was just quite alien to me.And then seeing the drug issue, people lying on the pavements or the sidewalks and high on drugs.And it's I'm wondering, politicians seem to be oblivious to the the dangerous situation.And I'm wondering kind of how you see that. Virginia did seem to be safer, certainly I'd be there.But every state has their issues. And as that is happening in one area in the US, I guess it then spreads out and will affect other parts.So tell us about your kind of concern about crime and those issues which Americans face.Well, crime is one of my top concerns here in Virginia and across the United States.We see cities taken over by liberal policies to defund our police, really destroying the protection of the rule of law, which is really the most fundamental aspect of our society and what allows us to be free, is having a rule of law legal system, a system that people respect and, and live under, because when you don't have the rule of law, you have these, you know, banana republics, like what I work around in all over the world, you have failed democracies, failed States.When you don't have that rule of law, when you don't have institutions that people respect and protect.And sadly in America, you know, we've seen this for several years now, but especially in the last few years since COVID and the George Floyd riots, we've seen this defund the police movement, attacking our law enforcement professionals.I was endorsed by the Virginia Police Benevolent Association here in my race.And one of the reasons they endorsed me was because of my staunch defence of their right to have the resources that they need to provide a civil defence and the rule of law protection here in our community.We've seen that police have been defunded, that they have removed police resource officers in schools so that our schools are less safe.I mean, I don't know why they, you know, they're concerned about gun violence, but they wanna get rid of the school resource officers that actually protect the schools.It doesn't make any sense.Police are leaving the forces in droves in different cities, like in the city of Richmond, the capital of Virginia, the police are all leaving.They're coming to Chesterfield, where I live, because the police department here actuallywants to ensure that they have fair pay that they are that they have the support that they need and that's something that I want to continue expanding on but we see in cities across across the United States like Seattle, Portland you know, Los Angeles you name it and and even more in recent days. We've seen that these young youth groups are coordinating and are just doing flash mobs on on cities attacking businesses.And in Chicago and in New York, this is happening.And no one's doing anything about it. It's just, they're letting these young people run rampant and just attack the police, attack businesses.It happened even here in the city of Richmond during the George Floyd riots, even African-American businesses were attacked.They were indiscriminately just attacking businesses. There was no moral justification for what they were doing.It was really just violence gone rampant and there's no there's no protection And so if we if we defund the police, we're not gonna have the protection we need in our communities and that's what's happening another big thing that we see here in Virginia is, that Democrats don't only just want to fight the police and strip away their resources which the police have been fighting against and I'm supporting them in that effort but they've also been trying to strip the gun rights of gun owners. And so, Democrats when they were you know controlling all the houses of legislature and the administration tried to pass these red flag laws.And the red flag laws would essentially allow gun owners, just normal citizens like you and I to have their guns taken away if a neighbour feels in some way threatened by them, a feeling.So we based laws based on facts. We don't base laws on feelings.And the justice system is there to protect, did something happen or did it not happen?It addresses facts, it doesn't address feelings.And feelings are subjective. And so under these red flag laws.That in fact one of my opponents actually voted for, supposedly a Republican and the other opponent actually used the red flag laws that she purportedly is against against her own staff.People, average normal law-abiding citizens are having their guns taken away by, law enforcement because of some purported fear and I think that this puts law enforcement in a very precarious situation situation. In Chesterfield, they've said they wouldn't enforce these. But it also puts average Americans at risk of losing their constitutional freedoms. The First Amendment protects their freedom of speech and expression. Second Amendment protects their gun rights. The Fourth Amendment protects their right to be free from unwarranted search and seizure. So no one has a right to come into my home and to take my guns away unless there is a reason, a justifiable cause, an objective cause, not a subjective one.And that's what's happening here in Virginia. So I'm running against two opponents that don't take these things seriously.And obviously I think that's why the Police Benevolent Association has endorsed me because they understand that they need people that have their back to ensure that police have the support they need to enforce the rule of law, to protect citizens and to ensure that law abiding citizens aren't having their constitutional freedoms taken away.And that's, you know, that's something I fought for my entire life, but it's something here in Virginia I want to protect and preserve. Because I understand what happens in countries when the government doesn't allow individuals to protect themselves or doesn't have a legal rule of law system where the police can be trusted to defend you. And so we have got to secureour ability to have police and law enforcement fully supported and respected so that they can operate as they need to.
 
Let me, the one other topic I just wanted to ask you about and it's on your issue, so people go to your website and they click on the issues is securing our elections and I think of kind of election integrity, a lot being discussed of that, massive subject with a wide scale of issues to address. Obviously many people had questions over what happened in 2020, drop boxes, no ID, it goes on and on. But how do you address this issue as someone who's actually standing for public office and going to the electorate?
 
Well, I think that election integrity is really critical here in America. A lot of countries look to us as kind of the pinnacle of what fair pre-elections should look like, and I think that we've called that into question with, with the way things have been going the last few years.We have to restore confidence in our election system. And that's only going to happen when we have better laws in place that protect our elections.And first and foremost, that means that no one should be voting without an ID.Here in Virginia, you can go and you can vote without having an identity card, without having your driver's license or some other form of physical ID, which is crazy.So somebody could go and vote for me as long as they know my name and address in my place, and I would have no recourse.And I think this is a huge threat to free and fair elections I think that every American should be concerned about it. It's not just a republican or democratic issue, so voter id is first and foremost one of the most critical things we also, I mean one thing that I see around the world is you know people go and they vote on one day and they often have a, an ink stamped on their on their finger one person one vote and they'll run they'll walk for miles to go and vote on that day I've been to Iraq and Sudan and so many Nigeria so many countries where I've where I've seen them voting andhaving their one vote counted and unfortunately here in Virginia we have 45 days of early voting and..
 
45 days, wow
 
45 days of early voting and I find it offensive as an Hispanic woman and as I said as my daughter's is black that they think that somehow minorities like myself of my daughter are too stupid to vote on one day or to know how to fill out an absentee ballot to get it in ahead of time with a justified reason.You know, that was always the case that we were able to, but to say that somehow, well, we can't vote without our ID or we need 45 days of early voting and anything else would be unfair or discriminatory is just insane.This is, you know, I work with people all over the world who are minorities from different backgrounds, races, ethnicities, et cetera, who don't have a problem, literally risking their lives to go and vote on one day and get their finger stamped. There is no reason.That the Democrats are pushing these kinds of policies for any other reason than to cheat and to make, to overburden our registrar system here It not just in Virginia, but around the country and so that's what we see and we need to reduce early voting we need to get back to you know, one day of voting and, the absentee ballots that we used or the you know when people have a justified reason of using an absentee ballot of getting back to that but, but this, this free for all that we see is putting a huge burden on our registrars that are trying to work in counties for six weeks of early voting.As somebody that's running for office, my election will be on June 20th, but in reality, it starts May 5th, next Friday, because that's when early voting starts.And so for six weeks, I will be campaigning as though it's election day, which puts also a huge burden on people running for office and getting out the vote.There's no reason for this. I think that it's an unnecessary burden on every part of the electorate from the registrar down to the voter.Americans have been blessed with the right to vote, with the ability to vote.It is our public duty to vote. It is something that we should be grateful for and that we should not think it a burden to go out on that one day and to put aside a little bit of work and to go vote.That is our public duty. It's our civic duty.And so, around the world, I've been not just advocating for religious freedom, but I've been working in countries like South Sudan to restore agency in that part of the world and other parts of the world where people haven't had elections held in years and decades and they need the right to vote.And so I've been training South Sudanese how to prepare for their national election, which hasn't taken place in about 10, 12 years.And so I come home and I think, gosh, you guys need 45 days to vote and it's still not enough.And you have every excuse under the sun why you can't have an ID card and you can't have this and you can't have that.I mean, people die for the kind of freedom that we have. We should be.We, it's it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. I mean, I think that's the only way to say it.And so, yes, in the State Senate, I'm going to be fighting to ensure that we have laws that are that are common sense.
Maybe you need to learn from the motherland here in the UK. We can do all our voting between 7 a.m and 10 p.m and we can have it all counted by 2 a.m the next morning. And there's a I've been at election, many, many, many election counts and there was a rush from all the areas to get them in to be the first to be counted. It's a competition, a rush, and America seems to be the opposite, where actually you win if you're the slowest. Six weeks later, you're still counting.It's a strange concept.
 
It's horrible, but it's not a Republican policy. These are things that have been put in place by Democrats that want to subvert our election integrity and Americans are, you know, over 50% of Americans saw what happened in the last election, and don't feel comfortable with the results.And, you know, when you lose that kind of confidence in your election system, it puts America in a very different position, you know, internationally and globally.And so we're not at the forefront, we're not the leader of democracy in this respect.And we need to get back to a system where our people respect and trust the system, let alone the rest of the world where they're struggling to have free and fair elections.Just, if I can just, a few minutes, I just wanna just finish off, touch on an area that's not, well, it's not necessarily in terms of you standing as a candidate, but you've touched on it, your work abroad, and your work on foreign policy all over.And I know you were over in Iraq for their 20th anniversary.You've talked about teaching others how to vote.I mean, you bring a wealth of experience from working in other countries on seeing how they do things and seeing transitions to a democratic process.Just, can we finish on that and how you bring that expertise and experience and knowledge to the Senate?
Absolutely. I think that we are at a really important juncture here in America and in Virginia.We see so many of our institutions and processes failing and people not understanding the values that our country was founded upon.The value of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, of expression, of religion, of conscience, of association, so many of our fundamental rights, now to the point where they don't want to allow police to associate and fight for their ability to have higher pay and have the resources they need to actually protect our rule of law system, protect our Constitution.We have the Second Amendment under attack.We have the Fourth Amendment and search and seizures under attack.So many of our fundamental freedoms that, freedoms that I've fought for around the world for people in places like Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria, I mean, you name it, are now at risk here in America.And I've seen this, I saw this happen, you know, 10 years ago when we fought SupremeCourt on the Hobby Lobby case just to protect the right of businesses to operate according to their conscience.These are things that I expect in other countries. They're not the things that I expect here in America.And so whenever I come back from a country like Iraq or South Sudan where I've been helping them develop an educated public to understand the importance of religious freedom so that a group like ISIS doesn't just re-emerge and brainwash the kids again.We've been training children in Northern Iraq to become resilient against terrorism and extremism.In South Sudan, we've been training members of parliament and citizens across the country in how to have agency and how to understand their rights and freedoms in a democratic system so they can actually have a free and fair election.When I go overseas to do this and I come home, I don't take those kinds of freedoms for granted.But I do see an American public that is increasingly being taught by woke ideologues to abandon those freedoms, to abandon those principles for ideas that have failed around the world, Marxist ideas that have failed.And that is very concerning because America cannot be the beacon light of freedom around the world for people that are desperately searching for it if we abandon the principles that made us great as a nation.And so I, every day as I'm in this race, I'm fighting for the America that I love, the America that I've been blessed to grow up in, the America that has allowed me to fight for freedom people around the world that don't have it.I'm fighting for the future of my daughter who's eight years old who just because of the colour of her skin shouldn't be turned against her mother or be taught to think of people in a category of oppressors and oppressed based on the colour of their skin.I'm fighting for her to grow up and to have optimism and hope and to stand up for the values that I've stood up for and to see people based on their character versus on the colour of their skin.That's the America that I'm fighting for here and the values that I'm fighting for.And because I've seen what happens when you don't have these freedoms in other countries and what, and how people can suffer. I will fight tooth and nail for it because I know how valuable and how worthwhile it is.So I just am grateful to be able to be on your show, Peter, and share what we're doing here in Virginia.There's so much to fight for.And I don't want people to be discouraged by the elections or by what's happening and just to give up, because it's so easy, I think, to give up.But when I'm meeting with people around the world that literally are risking everything, to gain the kind of freedom we have, I feel like it's even more incumbent upon us who have the freedom and haven't completely lost it to fight even harder to preserve it and protect it.So thank you for having me and letting me share. And I look forward to continuing to get to know your viewers and I hope they'll reach out to me on my website and support this campaign however they can so that we can have leaders in office that will stand up for them.Well, thank you, Tina. I've been in, I think I've been in Virginia more than any other place in America. So it does feel, it actually feels like the nice English countryside driving there. So thank you for coming on. I know our viewers can follow you on Twitter, can go to the website, can sign up, can support you financially, your campaign, can sign up to newsletters and follow what's happening. And I know us in the UK will be wishing you the best, praying for your success. And those watching, listening who are stateside in Virginia can actually use their vote to count if they live in that 12th district. So thank you for your time today, Tina.
Thank you, Peter. Well, I look forward to being with you again. Just appreciate all of your viewers reaching out to us at tinaramirez.com.We look forward to having you on as a Senator.

The Week According To . . . Ben Harnwell

Welcome to our hebdomadal show that looks back over the past seven days and this episode it's the return of the totally brilliant Ben Harnwell! As the international editor for Steve Bannon's War Room and the host of War Room: Rome, who better to talk us through what has captured his attention, piqued his interest or made his blood boil in the news, media and tabloids, including...- De-dollarization’s moment might finally be here. A BRICS Currency Could Shake the Dollar’s Dominance.- Yuan overtakes dollar to become most-used currency in China's cross-border transactions.- Average rents for properties across Britain have hit a new record high.- MSM is Dead: Tucker Carlson departs Fox News.- Lolz... Vice President Joe Biden launches 2024 re-election campaign.- Cocktails, oysters and air raid sirens, war hasn’t soured Kyiv’s taste for the good life.- Former Tory MP Andrew Bridgen expelled permanently from The Conservative Party.- Safe and Effective? What it’s like to live with vaccine injury? - Conservative Anglicans reject the Church of England and the Archbishop of Wokeness..... sorry, I mean Canterbury!In the two years between December 2006 and December 2008, Benjamin Harnwell was engaged in drafting the Universal Declaration of Human Dignity, consulting widely with various experts around the world. This work was drawn to a conclusion on 8 December 2008, when (with Gay Mitchell MEP) he founded the European Parliament’s Working Group on Human Dignity (of which he remains Honorary Secretary); and on the same date, simultaneously established (with Nirj Deva MEP) the Dignitatis Humanae Institute (of which he is Director).The Working Group was publicly launched on 25 March 2009 by European Parliament Speaker Dr. Hans-Gert Pöttering MEP (now a Patron of the Dignitatis Humanae Institute). The DHI has since been engaged in launching parallel parliamentary working groups on human dignity in various legislatures around the world, all based on the principles enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Dignity.Ben was the Chief of Staff to Nirj Deva MEP until the end of 2010, since which point he is now based permanently in Rome, directing the development of the DHI. When involved in politics, he was an active member of the British Conservative Party for over 15 years. Benjamin identifies himself philosophically as an Austro-libertarian, co-founding (with Vincent de Roeck) the European Parliament’s Mises Circle, which exists to promote greater recognition of the Austrian School of Economics; he also co-founded the international Right Approach Group (with Patrick Barron), to explore free-market solutions to contemporary problems.In 2002 and 2004, Ben was seconded to Colombo as Special Advisor to Sri Lankan Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.H.E. Mons. Sánchez Sorondo, Bishop Chancellor of the Pontifical Academies of Science and Social Sciences, appointed Ben External Counsellor in 2016.Since February 2018 Harnwell, as director of the DHI, is also the director of the Abbey of Trisulti, founded in AD 1204 and National Monument of Italy since 1873.From October 2021 to date Ben serves as international editor at “Steve Bannon’s War Room” and host of "War Room: Rome" on the number 1 ranked US political podcast.Join Ben for his daily analysis on “Steve Bannon’s War Room” and on Monday-Thursday hosting 'War Room: Rome' live on GETTR and Rumble https://warroom.org/Follow Ben on.....GETTR https://gettr.com/user/harnwellTWITTER https://twitter.com/ben_harnwell?s=20&t=lyY0pPen6Hs7_y2SxnAX4gOriginally broadcast live 29.4.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/
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(Hearts of Oak)
Today, it is always good to have the international editor of Steve Bannon's War Room and host of War Room Room, and that is Ben Harnwell himself. Ben, thank you for joining us tonight.
(Ben Harnwell)
Thanks, Peter. It's a great pleasure, privilege and honour to be invited back onto the show.
Well, you were so good last time, you have to come on again. So I thoroughly enjoy watching you on War Room. Obviously, you can catch Ben @Harnwell on GETTR, is the best place to find him, and you can see his regular contributions on War Room. Ben, I thought we'd first just play a little clip of the long interview with Steve K. Bannon and President Trump. Let me bring this up and just play a little bit at the beginning, and then we can discuss this.(video plays)
President Trump, thank you very much. Thank you. This book, I think, for people that know and love you is what, what people have been waiting for, because it shows you prior to you being president.And you've got what I call the great and the good of the late 20th century and early 21st century.It's everywhere. It's entertainment, it's media, it's sports, religious figures, and you've got, you know, their letters to you, your correspondent back, the great photography, but then the special is your commentary and observations.How did you come up with the idea? Why did you want to do this?So a group of people got to see in my office, I have stacks and stacks of letters from really famous people. And they say very diverse, okay, very diverse, like actors and crazy people. Probably I shouldn't say this, probably mobsters. And, you know, we had sort of everyone yet boxers, but we had everybody and, and Richard Nixon and politicians, famous politicians and some really good ones and very personal letters. And they saw this and they said, you got to be, and they started looking and Sergio, who you just had on is terrific. Fantastic.Started looking at these letters he said these letters are incredible. I had two women, Norma who passed away but she was with me for many years and she was a fantastic woman and she worked with a young woman named Rona, Rona, Rona Graff And between the two of them, they love to save letters.And every letter was saved and preserved and beautiful and wrapped up.And all of a sudden we saw these boxes full of letters and Sergio and his staff, they went through them. They said, you're not going to believe some of these letters.Like getting a letter from Rosie O'Donnell, who was in love.I don't want to say that in the true sense of the word, but you know, she really liked me a lot.Whoopi Goldberg. By the way, Alec Baldwin, it's the whole, it's all this kind of graciousness, gratitude and class.But not just running for office, because we've got Cuomo, I'll talk to you about that.It's what you stood for when you ran for office. That's what separated it out.I want to go just to some of the, I think some of the ones that are best at the beginning.Talk to me....Now, Ben, we could go through all of that, but that would miss out your input.But that is available on War Room GETTR.It is available on War Room Rumble.But of course, Steve's time in the White House with President Trump, I mean, tell us your perspective of course of that interview as someone who is working with Steve, working with the War Room. Tell us your thoughts about it.
 
I loved that interview. I was watching it was late at night obviously here in Europe when that came out as it was for you. But I was on my seat. But this was I think the old Donald Trump, that we haven't really, relaxed, totally comfortable in his own skin, that we, I don't really know if we've seen it since the 2016 cycle. He was absolutely, it's perfect. A lot of inside details, you know, with his negotiations with Emmanuel Macron.Well there weren't many negotiations, Macron was totally rolled, but sort of inside goss on these one-on-one trade negotiations was just absolutely fascinating. And then of course you heard the, we had the exchange there with Steve and President Trump talking, and about you know how all these A-listers were corresponding with him from the 80s onwards in very warm terms. People like, they've just nominated Rosie O'Donnell and Alec Baldwin and what have you, and you sort of realize it's not, there's an element of course that when Trump declared his, when he came down the escalator and declared he was going to be a candidate, Yeah, fair enough. That is a pivot point between his relationship and all the celebrities who'd been cultivating him, because obviously he's a very rich guy, right, that had been cultivating him. And he's very well known for being a generous benefactor as well. So it's understandable that a lot of people would have been cultivating his friendship. You know, and as Steve mentioned that interview, what comes across is the respect and the warmth that these people had towards him.And that's absolutely true. And it's true that when Trump aligned himself with the America FirstMovement, and in fact takes the banner in his own hand and takes it forward, that a lot of that change.I sort of think though, and as much as that is true, there's something else going on, as well in that story and that's a lot of this opposition, you know, the people like Baldwin and Rosie O'Donnell, they're pivoted from warmth, respectful friendship to absolute Trump derangement syndrome and there's an element of that. But you know, Peter, I also think I think this thing, this book illustrates something else.A lot of that antipathy is just fake.These Hollywood A-listers and the celebrities who start foaming at the mouth, at the name Donald Trump, it's fake.They're all doing it because they believe, because they know nothing about politics.They have no, you know, they really don't understand, you know, they don't see, they don't understand as acute observers of politics should do, international affairs and economics as a relationship between cause and effect.And when you're looking at effect, you need to trace back and find out what that cause is.If you want to deal with it, you can't just stand there at an award ceremony and vote to a certain thing that you've done something about it.So obviously these people know literally zero about politics or current affairs, but they all, there's a lot of peer pressure and these people are very shallow and narcissistic and they fall in line.They take the line that's given to them and they quite happily fall in it.I don't see, Peter, what the explanation is, to go from, as this book is a testament of, from that degree of affection to Trump derangement syndrome. the opposition that we see, and which is very influential.People are, in the social media age, they are enormously influenced by influencers and celebrities.And I don't know, perhaps it's salutary to take a moment and stop and just realize that a lot of this is just absolutely fake, which is why they, why on the very rare occasion, Peter, that these people are held to account and to ask to expand on their opposition, they, you know, they stumble and stammer, they're in the mumble tank because they can't actually explain the reason for the emotional intensity of their supposed opposition. But look, the interview, it was based around this book and the correspondence within it, but it's actually far more than that. It was a real, you know, I don't think, Peter, that Donald Trump has allowed an interview at like basically one and a half hour full-length interview in this way with anyone since, no, not since leaving office, since declaring his candidacy, I certainly can't remember it, and most of the interviews, because you know, unlike President Biden, President Trump is quite happy to submit himself to hostile questioning. This was actually really unique in interviews so many regards because you don't have that superficial mainstream media attempt to virtue signal your opposition to Trump when you're interviewing him in the questions.So that doesn't make a show in. So actually you get it's Donald Trump with his former chief strategist going through and actually intelligently talking about so many things from Ukraine to Biden, to immigration, to the economy, without just the sheer waste of time, this fake antipathy it brings to it.So I would strongly, strongly, strongly, strongly, strongly recommend to anyone watching this weekly review with us now, to go on to either Steve Bannon's GETTR account or the War Room account.We've got a great selection, I'm going to be pushing some out in the next 24 hours on my own account, great selection of highlights from that interview and I can't recommend it more because it really shows you Donald Trump in the most, you know, the most human and approachable light. And we're starved of that, thanks to the mainstream media filter.I don't know what you thought about that interview, but I was just captivated by the whole thing.I agree. And for the sake of time, I'll just say it was great to have, obviously, President Trump knows Steve Bannon, Steve knows Trump.And to have that conversation with two friends is different from a normal interview where the people don't know each other.So that level of familiarity brings a conversation amongst friends.And I think the viewer gets an insight into that connection.But we could talk about that for the rest of the evening. I will leave it to the viewers if they haven't already watched it to make sure they do watch it because it is an interview amongst two friends.And in that connection, you get to see a lot and learn a lot of things from that.
Peter, can I just add to that before we move on?
 
Of course you can.
That's absolutely true. Because of the intimate sort of atmosphere of it between, as you say, two people, two friends, two colleagues who work together, obviously, on the campaign in 2016. Part of, you know, because of that intimacy there, that, you know, it wasn't so much of a formal, hostile interview, but I don't know about you Peter, but I got the impression as if I was sort of eavesdropping at some point on, you know, There are two people who know one another who are having a private chat in the corner of a bar, and you're just listening and eavesdropping in on some of what they were saying.Because there were some unguarded moments, but people need to go and watch it.
I agree. It felt as though you're intruding on a private conversation.I get that 100 percent.I did feel that as well. It felt a bit bad. Well, it's there for all to see.But yeah, that's there for all to see, the viewers and listeners go to war room on GETTR or on rumble and you can watch the whole interview but moving on to other events because uh President Trump that will be over the next 18 months so you're going to get a lot of that don't you worry but moving on to the economics and this is a intriguing story. A BRICS currency could shake the dollar's dominance. De-dollarization movements might finally be here. And the first part of his talk of a de-dollarization is in the air. Last month, the New Delhi, Alexander Babakov, deputy chairman of Russia's State Duma, said that Russia is now spearheading the development of a new currency. It is to be used for cross-border trade by the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. And it is intriguing to see this change in, I guess, geopolitical financial control away from the power of the US dollar over to other economies that are actually growing much faster and taking on a bigger market share. And we've heard, I guess, the death kneel of the dollar many times. What are your thoughts on this Ben?
Well, actually, we discussed this on the War Room earlier on in the week.I'll make some different points this evening from what I made before.My first observation is that you're looking at the countries here, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and you've got Saudi Arabia as well sort of sitting in the side-lines.These are countries which have rivalries and mutual distrusts between them and Joe Biden is a pretty bad president.But the formation of BRICS, I think it was actually launched by Lula himself some 10 years ago when he was last in power, What a whole succession of incompetent and hubristic US administrations have succeeded in doing, is giving the glue to these disparate countries to come together and start working now on our trading area come eventual currency union, specifically because they distrust the United States so much.And this isn't a distrust towards the American people. It's a distrust towards the CIA.The meddling in their own international domestic politics, the military industrial complex, the whole of the warmongering, the endless warmongering.It's a persistent distrust of that, that has brought these countries together to overcome their, as I say, their mutual suspicions and distrust, but to work together. And I have to say, even though, you know, you and I were both fans of very, very, very, verystrong allies of the American people, but the damage that its corrupt MIC regime has been doing for decades to the detriment of the American people, the distrust that has generated in these countries is not exactly Peter, out of place. That is, they have good reason and to want to work together because the military industrial complex is out of control.And yeah, so that's really my point here. It will be to the detriment of the American people eventually, the loss of the dollars, the international currency of settlement. And that will, that, you know, because once that evaporates, the demand to hold dollars internationally by central banks will diminish.And then of course, then America will be held by the ordinary laws of economic reality when it comes to printing money as all other countries are.And that will hit the American people very hard. They've been protected to somewhat for the last 70 years from those consequences.So on the one hand, this move isn't to be welcomed from the perspective of the American people, but it is to be understood, and by understood I mean the lessons are to be learned just how bad the US meddling in other countries abroad has been.
Well, that was on the BRICS country, and then this story is specifically on China.This is from Reuters.The UN overtakes dollar to become most-used currency in China's cross-border transactions.And there, the UN became the most widely used currency for cross-border transactions in China in March, overtaking the dollar for the first time, and talks about the difference in payments.And this is, again, interesting. It is the rise of China and their global influence.We've seen it militarily.We've seen it economically. And this is more of the power of their own currency, which then cuts out the ability of the US to have influence.So this kind of builds on the BRICS story, specifically looking at China.Yeah, absolutely it does. It's important to remember, but you know, just weaning back to BRICS for a moment, that when Bolsonaro was president of Brazil, he tacked a very, very different line. He was very hostile to China and very close to the United States.And because Biden is basically a cretin, he believed that it would be better in US interests to have a hard-line pseudo-communist like Lula as president of Brazil, rather than another Trump type of nationalist.You know, and you just, you wonder what is the nature of political calculation going on in those around the leader of the free world to do that because the first thing Lula has done is pivoted straight back to Beijing, to the detriment of the United States and you think basically, the ruling class, that parasitical class that is running the United States into the ground, are they actually being bought off by another country, hostile to the United States' interest. I mean is it possible to be in innocence that incompetent?
Yeah it makes you wonder what is happening and we're all witnessing that change of the guard I think on the economic world stage.I'm on of course why not with Biden completely incompetent and the chaos that he isputting to the US economy and Ben you and I watch from a distance but for all our American viewers they're suffering the consequences of that. But this here's a story about the impact of the economic changes, impact on inflation and many other aspects and I think wherever you are in the world you will read this story with understanding probably similar to what is happening in your part of the world, wherever you're watching.But this is on Sky News. Average UK rents hit record two and a half thousand pounds in London amid property shortage.A report by Rightmove gives some hope of an easing ahead as higher mortgage rates alongside the cost of living crisis all combine to squeeze affordability.And the cost of living crisis simply with going and filling up your shopping basket is crazy, certainly in the UK, with basic food items up 30, 40%.If you think any dairy products, it's certainly 40%. And then I know talking to individuals about renting and they just sign the contract each year because it just goes up by 15, 20%.And of course, private landlords, landlords being punished. So those private homes being taken off.But Ben, I think wherever our viewers are watching, it's something that we are all facing, the impact on inflation, impact on rising living costs, and people have to make very difficult decisions.Yeah, this is a complex issue.And at some elemental level, there is a mismatch as this article suggests that you have in front of us, between supply and demand.I would say that, and you mentioned it, and the Daily Telegraph has been quite strong on this over recent months as well.I would say that looking at the supply part of this problem, it's a target, and it has been, I think, for centuries in the UK, for the middle class to own property in order to let, as you know, there's not the safest houses, but if you need to invest, invest it in a house, put it out to let, and that ought to be relatively secure as a potential source of future income.What the government is doing,in its infinite incompetence, is, you know, because it's trying to be populist, but it's mushing it all up. It's actually making it very difficult for landlords to let properties with any degree of confidence in future returns. I'm not saying the UK is moving back to the era of rent controls, but it's not far from that. You know, tenants have ever more rights.You know, for example, if I've understood this correctly, Peter, when leases are up now, it's not, or the legislative plan is to make it very difficult for landlords to kick tenants out.And that tenants will have a guaranteed right on terms of negotiating rent and all the rest of it.So the consequence of that, obviously, is that if you have a property, you just won't put it out to let until the chaos and the uncertainty has sorted itself out.You know, and that further down the line creates the supply problems that we have now.It's not as if the UK population has expanded exponentially.Obviously, a lot of illegals flooding in every day, that's absolutely true, but they're not coming in looking to rent property.They don't need to, because they're being put up by courtesy of the taxpayer in our best hotels.No, this is a different issue. And I rather guess that if you, as I was talking about cause and effect earlier, if we follow this back far enough, we will find the culprit is being previous intervention and legislation by a pseudo populist government of whatever description, because we have a uni party in the UK as they do in the States.And that will be the fundamentalcause I think of the supply shortage right now.
 
Yes the frustration whenever the government get involved in things then you think oh this can only go one way and that's problematic.Moving on to the probably the big story of the week and that is Tucker Carlson, so going stateside again although Tucker's influence is worldwide literally. This is the Los Angeles Times, one of the developments of it, although there have been many developments since, and this is Tucker Carlson Departs Fox News, pushed out by Rupert Murdoch.And if I can just read this, Tucker Carlson, the provocative, provocative?Conservative prime-time host who sustained Fox News as a ratings juggernaut, has been forced out of the network. Fox News announced the stunning departure of his top-rated host on Monday with no explanation, but people familiar with the situation who are not authorized to comment publicly said the decision to fire Carlson came straight from Fox News chairman Rupert Murdoch with input from board members and other Fox core executives. Ben, this must go down is probably the worst business decision of all time. You do not sack the person who brings in the ratings. And what are your thoughts on watching this car crash that we are seeing at Fox News?
 
Well, the first thing to do here is I think tip one's hat to Steve Bannon's insight on this, which is that this is really part of the Murdoch family trying to tilt the game away from Donald Trump in 2024. And I think there's obviously some truth in that and I think Murdoch's personal contempt for Donald Trump is so great that he is willing to take the hit to his family's fortunes in order to do that, because Fox was in the 2016 cycle a pretty important pillar in Trump's armoury.So that's the first point. The second point that I would make is that this is sort of, It really illustrates to the extent in which Fox Media Corporation is a controlled opposition.And therefore, for people who are angered by that realisation, it ought to be a further push to start checking out the alternative media, Peter, your program, The War Room, and things like that, that are taking place outside of, the cable news networks lock grip on the official narrative, that's a good thing.You know, in a problem, you know, in a certain sense, it's great when you have a dominant monoculture. It's great for, and the worst competition as possible, it's great for, it's a great opportunity for rivals to come up and make a huge splash in terms of influence and audience share in very short time. And I think that's what we're seeing.
Oh really, and it's exciting to see where Tucker will go, today I think that Jim Hoff and Gateway Pundit wrote that Newsmax had offered him a colossal contract. But I've been intrigued to watch. Obviously, the reach the War Room have is huge. There are other programs out there.And it will be, I mean, the world is Tucker's oyster. And I'm thinking, well, he's been fairly honest, but I'm assuming he has been partially constrained by Fox News. So whenever you have an unconstrained Tucker Carlson, this is going to be phenomenal. So I think we're all watching in this space to see what develops from this.Look, Petey, you and I, we're both active in the same media circles.I don't know anybody else on Fox that has any resonance in our circles beyond Tucker Carlson.I'd never, you know, there are some other presenters on there that are more or less, no, they're less, they are just less interesting.But nobody, nobody, you know, and I'm consumed by following the news sort of 18 hours a day.And I have been doing it full-time for 18 months.Nobody, not a single person, you know, half of all, if I were to say all I do is sit down and communicate with other journalists, it's an exaggeration, but there's some truth there.Nobody in 18 months has ever sent me a Sean Hannity text saying, or Cliff, saying, Harnwell, you must see this.You must see what Hannity, it's never happened. No one else on Fox has any resonance whatsoever outside of the Fox ecosystem.Tucker Carlson did. And I, you know, their loss will be, it might be Chris Ruddy's gain, we'll find out. But it will be someone's gain.
Completely. And let's, I see that Paul Lee, just watching on Facebook, says they took Tucker out in a desperate attempt to stop Trump. I think you could be bang on the money with that. And of course, the good news, the strange news, Tucker going actually wasn't necessarily bad news, because he was released by the constraints, I guess, of a massive network. The other gift to us all was that, yes, it is wonderful. It has been announced that President Joe Biden launches his 2024 re-election campaign. This is on the BBC News, obviously everywhere. He announced he'll be running for 2024, setting the stage for a potential rematch with Donald Trump. The good news is that Vice President Kamala Harris will once again be his running mate. I mean, what could be better? And of course, Mr Biden, 80, is already the oldest president in US history, is likely to face questions about his age throughout the campaign. He would be 86 after finishing his second full term in 2029. And I don't think he knows what day of the week it is, where he is, or what is happening to him. But Dr Jill looks after him, I believe, in there in the White House.But, Ben, we expected this to come and I'm intrigued to how the Democrat party respond because surely they can't watch, can't want an increpid, sadly, deficient individual running for president and leading the Democrat party. So what are your thoughts on this?
Well, you know, erm, I tell you, I was rather sorry for that sort of, for that angry old man, angry corrupt old man in the Oval Office when he broke this news, because it was immediately bounced off the press the following day by the Tucker Carlson sacking.It had a lot less residents, because that really sort of, it was the Tucker Carlson thing, that sort of really dominated the following 48 hours of press.And the Biden campaign, it was a bit like, oh, yawn from the world's media.Now you said that the Democrats can't be too happy to see him declaring for 2024. Well you know the Democrats aren't the only ones. I've got something here. This I think was pushed out by Gallup, there's been a fall in the world's approval ratings, considered approval rating of the US president over the last two years.Let me give you the figures. Right now, this is like Gallup spoke to 140 countries over the course of 2022.And they say that the median global approval rating of US leadership has fallen from 49% to 41%.Over the 18 months of Biden's administration. And as a comparison, Donald Trump was at 31%.And Obama, his second year rating was 47%. Well, at the rate Biden is collapsing, he's going to be on Trump's ratings by the start of a potential second term, which will never happen. Anyway, and that makes you think that, you know, we were promised so much difference when the adults were going to return to the room, weren't we, Peter? You know, when we were promised a return of normalcy, we were told repeatedly how the rest of the world was looking aghast, at Donald Trump's administration.And my reflection on this point, Peter, is this, that Biden isn't in free fall.I mean, I personally, half of me says that the country has no need to pay attention to what other countries are thinking of it anyway, right?But he's not in free fall because he's been pushing America first agenda and that's been putting everyone else's nose out of joint. That was the issue with Donald Trump, right? Of course the rest of the world hated him because he was pushing America's interests left, right and centre when it came to NATO subscription membership or trade agreements. Trump was trying to put America first in every single instance and all the other countries had had a free reign for decades to push their countries first and treat United States like a fool. So you can understand why the other countries weren't so happy. People are by Biden's international approval ratings are in free fall because of his incompetence and hubris.And because you won't see this read on the mainstream American media but the rest of the world isn't as nearly gung-ho about this war in Ukraine for example as the media in America likes to push, and this is reflected in these ratings. I just wanted, you know, I just thought that is, I think, if we're going to talk about, as I say, it's almost beer talk, talking about, you know, if we're at a pub having a pint talking about a second Biden administration, it's not going to happen. For a number of reasons it won't happen, but were it to happen,this is the sort of thing that the consequences are. And there are different ways of rating America's standing in the rest of the world.One of them, one, you know, you can be hated but feared, and you could be hated and just treated with irrelevance and contempt.And those are basically the two different approaches between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Well, moving on to, you mentioned Ukraine, and let's look at this.This was an intriguing, it was from the 15th, but I think you had reposted it more recently, Ben, and it's quite intriguing to bring up the topic of what is happening there.This is the Times, Cocktails, Oysters, and Air Raid Sirens. War hasn't soured Kyiv's taste for the good life.And it says there are now more bars and cafes in Ukraine's capital than before the invasion.It's a very strange story, Ben, because we are told that Russia kind of obviously at war with Ukraine, and we see all the videos of that war, and yet the Times comes out with a story that there are more bars and cafes than ever before.It doesn't sound very much like a dangerous war zone, but what are your thoughts on this, Ben?
 
It's strange.I don't know how this, I mean, the Times for our international audience is Murdoch Press.And it's been a number one Vladimir Zelensky cheerleader right from the beginning.How this article snuck by the census, I have no idea.Are some great lines in here. Here's one line, right, talking about a cook called Somin, age 31, who's returned to Kyiv in late 2021. The Times writes that after a successful career cooking abroad that the guy struggles to find for his restaurant unripe mangoes, adding that ripe mangoes a plentiful. Well, you know.Try shopping for fresh fruit in the UK, local Sainsbury's, it would appear that the supermarkets in Kyiv, which we're led to believe is a war zone, are more bountiful and stocked up.You know, they're making the UK look like communist Russia, pre-cold, pre-Berlin wall fall, here's my favourite line, if I may, from this article.This is brilliant.And I quote, The Kyiv Opera is open, and luxury spas offer gold-leaf facials and teeth whitening.It's no different here, one sales assistant said. It's just the same as it was before.You know, Peter, I don't know about you, right? I don't know about you.When was the last time you went for a gold leaf facial?
 
I don't even know what that is, Ben, but we missed that. We need to go to Kyiv.
 
I swear, I swear to God, I had to Google it. I had no idea what it was either. But that, you know, that's where our taxes in the West are going to because they weren't accounted for. We don't know where I'm going to go when they're handing it over, to Kyiv. But we've been saying on the War Room right from the beginning, right from day one, that it's going to Zelensky's, fundamentally to his oligarchs for spending, whether that's in the military or on services or infrastructure or budgetary support, the money is always bein, funnelled by his oligarchs and you know these oligarchs, you know, they need gold leaf facials. Who doesn't?
 
Who doesn't? Well, moving on to someone who doesn't need a gold leaf facial, and that is Andrew Bridgen in the UK. And I'll read this and then we'll maybe let our international audience have a bit of an idea what that is. This is in The Guardian. And this is the news, the headline there that former Tory MP Andrew Bridgen, that's the Conservative Party for our foreign viewers, expelled permanently from party. Northwest Leicestershire MP has sat as an independent since losing Tory whip after comparing use of Covid jabs to holocaust. And I'm full on down this rabbit hole with Andrew and of course he was vaccine injured and has raised this and spoken about this in Parliament. He has been attacked, demonised by everyone, including Penny Mordaunt, that's probably no bad thing, the leader of the House, the Speaker of the House, and now he's been thrown out of the Conservative Party, seemingly simply for questioning and, discussing the harm that's been caused and how widespread or not, that's a whole other area, but simply for raising this issue. How have you viewed this, Ben, of how Andrew Bridgen has been treated and his expulsion from the Conservative Party?Well, the first thing... Well, okay, so the first, the proper first thing, is that as far as I'm concerned, that inverted... I use sort of air quotes as I say this, the Conservative Party needs to be sued under the Trades Description Act because it's clearly not a conservative party in any way shape or form and it hasn't been for a number of years. It's a hoax calling it a conservative party, it's not remotely. That's the first thing to say and this story just illustrates that to perfection. The second thing I'd like to say is just pointing out the grawny ads and rather lax editorial policy here because they say here that this northwest Leicestershire, which is my area of the country by the way, it's not my constituency but that is my area of the country, that he's sad as an independent since losing the Tory whip after comparing the use of Covid jabs to the Holocaust.That's not what he did, right? What he did, as the article then explains, is that he tweeted an attributing a quote to a consultant cardiologist who had said to him that the Covid vaccines is the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust. So that wasn't actually Bridgen's comparison. It was a cardiologist that had said that to him.Now you might, people might think that's a slight distinction. I don't think it's a slight distinction. I think it's an important distinction. But even if he had compared it to the Holocaust, I don't think that's, the next story we're going to discuss I think brings this out integrated relief. I don't think that would be grounds for permanently expelling him from the party.My first thought, Peter, is that the consultant who said that needs to go on the record.It's up to him, it's up to, you know, it's up to him and his own conscience. Obviously, I guess he might be working within the world's largest communist organization, the NHS, so he might not want, he might not, you know, understandably he might not want to go on the record with that, and yeah, and half of me says, and who can blame him, but, you know, he really, you know, he really, I think he really needs to go on the record with that.The second thing I thought when I was reading this article is the tweet from, the board of deputies of British Jews which said it was pleased with its portion and I quote, right, suggesting that Covid vaccines are the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust is not an opinion which should be countenanced in any serious political party. You know, that kind of thing, I mean, that kind of thing just shows that the Board of Deputies of British Jews has zero credibility about anything. I mean, for one, for one, the consultant cardiologist didn't say that it was a crime against humanity that rivalled the Holocaust. He said since the Holocaust. And these people think that the COVID vaccine injury is a big crime against humanity.So if anything they're underlining the importance of the Holocaust rather than undermining it.But you know these people have always been rather too quick to send out a press release if it gets them some some press coverage and I never want to hear from these people again. I think they've lost every shred of integrity at this point. Third point I hope this guy reaches out to Nigel Farage, or Nigel reaches out to him. That would be a fitting close to this chapter.
It would be and it'd be intriguing to see how it goes and where Andrew ends up.If I just comment on a few, lots of comments on GETTR. I love how we have so many comments on GETTR. Three Day Weekend, HW Logan, Dan2848, who else? Scotland the Brave, Jimbra. There are lots of, I'm scrolling up some of your names are just too long and I can't even it'll take me the whole show to go through some of your handles but thank you so much for your comments I always go and look at them after although me I don't always get the chance to to bring them in but thank youso much for your comments there and following on from the Andrew Bridgen this was an article and again this is it intrigues me because these are articles which we would not have seen any time during the last three years and they're now coming out and it's intriguing how the media are, I guess, rewriting things and saying, actually, there are some issues we need to address, even though if you address these things and that's why we're not on YouTube, because if we read this story out on YouTube, we would have got a strike immediately, even though it's the Metro, the newspaper that's given out every morning on the Tube, on the Underground, on the Metro in London.And the headline is, 'sometimes I don't know if I'm going to wake up in the morning, what it's like to live with vaccine injury.'And the gentleman here, Adam, as a former physiotherapist to professional sports people, Adam Rowland knows the importance of staying well. He used to train six times a week, never smoked, rarely drinks.Now he can't even walk on a treadmill for exercise.The dad of two worked with Warrington Wolves before he had to resign in November due to a raft of complicated health issues.And then the story goes into, it seems to be linked to the vaccine. And I ampleased Ben, that at long last the media are highlighting that there are people who have suffered massively from side effects to the vaccine and I don't think that was portrayed or put forward or announced enough beforehand as people were rushing for this. But what are your thoughts on this story of Adam, vaccine injured?
 
I'm conflicted, Peter, with this story.I mean, obviously I have sympathy for the guy, but I just read this article with a growing sense of wandering disbelief.So he has the first injection, it's the AstraZeneca I think he has in February 2021.This is like well, well into the era of documented stories saying that the vaccine is not safe and it's dangerous, right?This isn't a first wave. So then within a week of having an injection, he's then got sort of heart palpitations, like 20 palpitations a day, panic attacks, drooping eyelids.He can't get up. He's collapsing, being rushed to the A&E, right? And this goes on.I shouldn't laugh, but this goes on for months, getting worse and worse and worse.He's going to the hospital, going to the doctors.And then three months later in May, he goes back and has the second injection.I have sympathy for the plight, but at a certain point you just think, you know, I don't know.I don't want to be harsh. My observation on this article, in order to maintain a certain, sense of charity is never underestimate what people will believe if the government tells them solemnly. Now we knew this, we knew this anyway, right, but if there's a, well there's not asilver lining on the cloud of Covid, but if there were one, it's that every single person with to eyes and a brain that's lived through this so-called pandemic, it now has personal, first-hand empirical experience of just how friends, family, neighbours, loved ones, colleagues can be brainwashed by the BBC and the news and the government and doctors and the professionals and the scientists, with basically half the population, you know, would seem to have zero capacity for introspection and analysis on what they're told from official sources. And that, Peter, is absolutely terrifying. It ought to be terrifying. It is terrifying. You know, we knew this, anyone who's read books on the Second World War and the rise of the Third Reich, even if you've not read it since these things since you were a school kid or what have you, yet everyone always said, you know, the Germans after the war, you know, they were amazed how mass insanity can take hold.And we Peter we've learned nothing we've literally perhaps we learned for a few decades afterwards, but now it's just distant memory we literally have learned absolutely nothing um and having lived through this so-called pandemic um my takeaway has just beenI watched open mouth how people um how easy it is for government to manipulate what people think and to sacrifice their freedoms as well. Terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
Well let's finish off with another institution that told people that was a mouthpiece of the government and I have no love at all anymore for the apostate church, that is the Anglican church.I think I've given my views there in a nutshell. This is GB News, who do do some amazing stories, thin in other ways, but this is concerted Anglicans reject Church of England and Archbishop of Canterbury and I had watched Calvin Robinson who was there at the conference, but the conference brought together more than 1300 delegates from 52 countries. It's the Global Anglican Future Conference, GAFCOM, has pledged to reject the Church of England and the Archbishop of Canterbury and they had gathered in Rwanda and withdrew their recognition of Justin Welby, better known as Wet Welby, as the first amongst equals. And I'm intrigued by this, Ben, because it is positive, I think, to see some pushback on the woke liberal agenda that Justin Welby brings as head of the Anglican Church. What are your thoughts?Yeah, where do I start? This is, I don't want to be harsh to the Anglican communion, to Anglicans or to Protestants generally, having been an Anglican at one point in my life.So I'll try to be respectful in what I say.In, you know, I could just as easily address what I actually want to say, talking about the Catholic Church, because the issues are the same, right? The issue that, the issue is the same, just the Anglian communion is just slightly further, you know, historically, it was like a couple of generations ahead, but the Pope Francis has done his best to, in 10 years, to catch up up the Anglicans in terms of implosion.Where to start on this, Peter?UmFirstly, the fundamental issue that all Christian churches or ecclesial communities, whatever term you want to use, the fundamental question that Christianity faces and has faced since the beginning of the modern era is, what is the basis of our belief as Christians?And can that basis change? And if it changes, and if the substance of the faith changes, are we still Christian because we are in the centre, the median centre of the horizontally, if you will, of Christians in our own period?Or are we also in communion with the church throughout time?Call that vertical, if you will. And if you pick the first one, really the church in it as a pilgrim church through time, that it needs to remain cohesive, keep all the sheep in the truck together and not necessarily be so anchored to what were form of beliefs.Then you are basically, I mean, I don't share that view remotely, but the danger with that is that you then, well, however you decided to do so, you become a make it up as you go along religion.And I don't know about other religions, but I would definitely say Christianity does not work on a make it up as you go along basis, because nobody wants, no one will change their lives to fit into a make it up as you go along religion. And certainly no one will be converted by that, there'll be no witness in terms of conversion and bringing people into the church, into practicing Christianity, into a relationship with Jesus Christ on the basis of that. Because really what we're doing is conforming the church to the times, rather than allowing ourselves to be conformed by Christ.And this is, I think, absolutely the problem that the Anglican communion has, because it hasn't decided that Welby and the Western Anglican practitioners, who are only about 15% of the communion, want to move with the times.Specifically, it's the blessing of homosexual marriages here.85% of the church, I think, is in Africa or the developing world, generally.And the African church doesn't want to follow.And they have this problem, and the Catholic church has a problem as well.Basically, I know we're winging now to the end of the show Peter, of our hour.I close with this point.We should look at the collapse and the implosion of the Anglican communion.And Anglicans can learn from it, Catholics can learn from it, evangelicals can learn from it.I would suggest, sadly I could talk for a whole hour about this, but as far as I'm concerned the only valid form of Christian witness today is to be conformed to the teachings that Jesus Christ, expounded 2,000 years ago and the apostles and the early church and the constant interpretation of the revelation of the church is the constant unchanging interpretation of the revelation of the church and it ought to be our guide for today and that will offend people, it will also bring about martyrdom for some but there's no other offer on the table at leastput there by Christ. That's it, you know. It's sad and tragic, but I think the most tragic thing about it is it being unnecessary.
Yeah, yeah, no, completely, completely. I just want to leave our viewers with two uplifting things. Yeah, no, go on, throw it in, Benny.
I forgot, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot that we had, we had these two things to come.But I'm just gonna let our viewers watch it and at least it leaves them with a smile.I think it's important to use humour and satire when you look at the world or else it could be quite depressing.
Oh hang on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.This video is not satire, it's truth, Peter.
 
Ha ha ha!Well, let's play this.Babylon Bee, I absolutely love Babylon Bee, and I actually did look at, regularly looked at Babylon Bee, but actually ended up just looking at the headlines, and then someone pulled me up on it, and I started going through the articles, and I thought, this is just better than ever.So this is one of Babylon Bee's videos, and I will let it speak for itself....(video plays)
Being a man is pretty great. It's way better than the alternative.To clearly demonstrate why being a man is so great, the Babylon Bee presents the following list.The world is your urinal. Being well standing up comes in handy when you're in a hurry or going to the bathroom somewhere where you shouldn't be.You have a brain that's three times the size of a woman's.It's science. It's culturally acceptable for you to roll up tobacco leaves into a big cylinder, light it on fire and stick it in your mouth.You can have an entire conversation with your best friend just by saying what's up bro? What's upThat bad, huh?Take one of these. Your facial hair is considered attractive.Forget to shave for a couple of days and suddenly you go from a six to a solid eight.Your extensive knowledge of all subjects allows you to graciously explain things to women.You're welcome. You can wear the same shirt for thirty-eight years.You don't have to be a slave to fashion when you have the perfect T-shirt for every occasion.You make more money than a woman for doing the same job. Being a man comes with an automatic pay raise.Huh.Payday. You are biblically allowed to speak in church. Plus, your wife has to do everything you say all the time.Pretty sure it's in the Bible somewhere.You have a reduced chance of Joe Biden sniffing you. Not zero chance, unfortunately. So be careful.Only men are allowed to be president.No glass ceiling here.If you want, you can be the world's strongest woman.Get it, girl? Yeah, being a man's pretty great. If you can think of any other ways that being a man is awesome, leave them in the comments down below so I can not read them.Because I'm a man. Exercise your God-given right to be a man and get 10 Mui Macho top-rated premium cigars from Oliva for $19.99.We will. Absolutely brilliant. I absolutely love that. Go on, what are your thoughts on it?
Well, it's one word. It's one word to the whole thing, fact.
 
It's so good. It is Babylon Bee, I heard Seth Dillon speak at a conference I went to in Miami in February, and he just blew the whole conference event away.Actually, phenomenal what he's doing, love it. And if I could just leave our viewers with one picture, and this is this, a climatard.You may not have come across it, but a climatard is a person that believes that climate can be changed by paying a CO tax to the government.Don't believe it, it is nonsense.Ben, I appreciate you coming along always. Love chatting with you.Thank you so much for your time this evening.Thanks, Peter. It's a great honour to be invited back. I'm gonna go off now and smoke a cigar.
I feel like doing the same.To our viewers and listeners, thank you so much for tuning in, whether you're watching on any of the platforms or watching later on BitChute Odysee or listening on Podbean around the podcasting apps, listening on the go.Thank you so much for being part of the conversation. And on Monday, we have, I'm just looking at my list, Tina Ramirez, who is standing in the Virginia Senate.I met her last year, absolutely phenomenal individual, what she's done for religious freedom, liberty, all around the world for decades.And she is standing, bringing her wealth of knowledge to the Senate there in Virginia.So tune in on Monday for her thoughts on a range of issues and what she is passionate about and why she is standing there in the State Senate in Virginia.But I wish you all a wonderful rest of your Saturday evening.Have a wonderful Sunday. I will be back with you on Monday.So thank you and good evening to you all.