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Tom Fitton - Judicial Watch: Exposing Government Corruption and Coverups

For nearly 30 years Judicial Watch has been holding successive governments and administrations to account. Tom Fitton has been at the helm as President since 1998 and is known as one of the most fearless conservative activists whose desire to seek truth makes him one of the biggest enemies to governments who cover up facts for their own benefit. No other organisation in America uses the Freedom of Information law in such a logical joined up way and is never afraid to use the courts to force the disclosure of hidden documents. Time and time again the veil is lifted and the public see the truth and often Judicial Watch are behind this reveal. It was an absolute honour to speak with Tom, so join us as he unpacks some of the requests they have made and how they often have to fight to see the truth exposed.Tom Fitton is the President of Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption. Founded in 1994, Judicial Watch seeks to ensure government and judicial officials act ethically and do not abuse the powers entrusted to them by the American public. With 20 years of experience in conservative public policy, Tom Fitton has helped lead Judicial Watch since 1998 and overseen its tremendous growth and success in recent years. Under Fitton’s leadership, Judicial Watch was named one of Washington’s top ten most effective government watchdog organizations by The Hill newspaper.Mr. Fitton provides Judicial Watch with strategic guidance and leadership on Judicial Watch’s comprehensive efforts to fight government corruption. He is a nationally recognized expert on government corruption, immigration enforcement, congressional and judicial ethics, and open government.A former talk radio and television host and analyst, Tom is well known across the country as a national spokesperson for the conservative cause. He has been quoted in TIME, Vanity Fair, The Washington Post, The New York Times, The Associated Press, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Post, and most every other major newspaper in the country. He has also appeared on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, FOX News Channel, C-SPAN and MSNBC.Mr. Fitton has authored numerous articles such as “Judicial Activism Hurts our Courts,” “What Bill Clinton Knew About bin Laden,” “Following Terrorism’s Money Trail,” “Senate Abandons Judicial Nominees,” “Every Town is a Border Town,” “Obama’s Records Problem” and “Jesse Jackson Exposed.” Judicial Watch also publishes the monthly 375,000+ circulation Verdict newsletter and runs the cutting-edge Internet site JudicialWatch.org, which includes the oft-cited Corruption Chronicles blog. Mr. Fitton gained national attention as a political analyst, previously working for America’s Voice and National Empowerment Television. He is a former employee of the International Policy Forum, the Leadership Institute, and Accuracy in Media.Mr. Fitton holds a B.A. in English from George Washington University.A Republic Under Assault: The Left's Ongoing Attack on American Freedom (Judicial Watch) available from Amazon in hardcover, e-book and in audiobook...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Republic-Under-Assault-American-Judicial/dp/1982163658/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=tom+fitton&sr=8-3Follow Tom and Judicial Watch...WEBSITE: https://www.judicialwatch.org/ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/JudicialWatchhttps://twitter.com/TomFitton?s=20GETTR: https://www.gettr.com/user/JudicialWatchhttps://gettr.com/user/tomfittonTRUTH: https://truthsocial.com/@JudicialWatchhttps://truthsocial.com/@TomFittonTELEGRAM: https://t.me/JudicialWatchInterview recorded 4.5.23*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.
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(Hearts of Oak)Hello Hearts of Oak and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Tom Fitton, the president of Judicial Watch. I had the privilege of meeting Tom over in CPAC six weeks ago and we talk about many things. What Judicial Watch do is use freedom of information and I haven't seen it used so effectively as Judicial Watch do and Tom has been the president for 25 years and we go into a whole range of issues that, without Judicial Watch, the public would not be aware of the truth.So we go into Biden targeting Christians and an FOI that Judicial Watch have just put in on the FBI and they're targeting of Roman Catholic churches. Universities control from abroad. This is a story about a university receiving half a billion from Qatar. Is that good? Is that bad?And how does it influence the education sector. The growing power of the CCP, we look at CCP police stations in New York and you saw maybe six weeks ago there was an arrest of two people.Actually it was Judicial Watch that initially put in that FOI. Without their work you wouldn't have seen the arrest and the exposure of that. Election integrity, they put in many different FOIs in regards to states, and states have been forced to clean up their electoral rolls.They've just put an FOI on Trump raid records to reveal all of those. I think 8,000 records need to be revealed. Judicial Watch have put that in. Gain of function. Again, a lot of stuff has been exposed. Hunter Biden. There are so many issues which they address, and without them, these would not be exposed to the public. So Tom shares many of those stories and talks about how actually what they do can be used abroad and replicated because many countries around the world have an FOI system, certainly in the UK and Europe. And I think we need to be aware of what we can do as citizens and actually use the institution, the legal system that we have to force the government to account.So tune in, listen to Tom share his 25 years worth of experience heading up as President of Judicial Watch.And hello, Hearts of Oak. Today it is an honour to talk to the President of Judicial Watch, Tom Fitton. Tom, thank you for your time today.
 
(Tom Fitton)
You're welcome, Peter. Thank you for having me.
Not at all. And you can follow Tom on Twitter. All the handles are there on the screen, @TomFitton and judicialwatch.org, at @JudicialWatch on Twitter. And his latest book, just to give you an idea, published in 2020 is A Republic Under Assault, the left's ongoing attack on American freedom, which really addresses the deep state voter fraud, illegal immigration.And there's a lot packed into that. So I'd encourage our viewers after this, if they want todelve a little bit more deeply into some of the things that Tom has discussed, the book is available everywhere. Now, Tom, for our non-US viewers, could you maybe take a moment and introduce yourself before we get into the work of Judicial Watch?
 
Well, thank you, Peter, and I won't presume our fellow Americans here in the United States know who we are. So, we're a non-profit educational foundation. We're essentially a government watchdog group. We use often a law here in the United States, it's the bulk of our litigation, called the Freedom of Information Act, which is an open records law that allows federal level access to records. And of course, states do it as well. They have similar laws, so we sue there. So we've been able to uncover all sorts of records about corruption issues that the media isn't terribly interested in pursuing, the Congress is arguably incapable of pursuing, but the American people desperately want to know about.And one of the things we do is we represent whistle-blowers, those who've been victimized by the government for daring to blow the whistle on government misconduct, meaning government officials, and then of course the victims of government misconduct as well.And so in doing so, we not only advance the rule of law, but we educate Americans and and other concerned citizens across the world, frankly, about the importance of clean government, honest government, and transparent government.Well, I think just on you, one thing I read on your Wikipedia, which is always good fun to read, and that in 2022, researchers found that Fitton was the third most prolific purveyor of election misinformation on Twitter during the late months of 2020.That's quite a badge of honour, isn't it?
I was hoping for at least a silver medal. Well, the left is obsessed with depicting anything they dispute or hateas quote disinformation and of course, the communist left, which is on the rise here in the United States.They really like compiling lists. So I'm all sorts of lists that I'm sure they'll go to if they advance the revolution far enough along, to put me in jail or worse, but these are serious times and I'm half joking, but I, that book title is prescient, isn't it? Republic Under Assault. I often confuse it because I can, it sounds like a Star Wars movie title to me, but our Republic is under assault. And we have this constitutional system here in the United States that the left has decided is not convenient to them anymore. And so they've let folks who don't follow the rule of law and don't care about protecting the institutions that protect our Liberty, they're running the show for, in my view, an entire political party with the acquiescence, if not too often the allegiance of the other political party, the Republicans.On your website, and I've worked with FOIs here, we have a similar system in the UK, but how you have used them is on another level. I think on the, on your website the document archive section there are 27,000 documents. I mean that is a huge resource of information and it really is a window on government corruption that you've just made available to the public to use as they see fit.
Yeah, I don't, it would be difficult to overstate the nature of our work in terms of the scope in what we've been able to uncover. We have thousands of Freedom of Information Act requests, I could come up with a number which may or may not be correct, but it's thousands and it would be shocking if the actual number was certified for you. And I know it's hundreds of Freedom of Information Act lawsuits, so there's no one more, there's no one who does more litigation to uncover what the government's up to, not only here in the United States, but worldwide. And you know, I know it's this is more of an international audience is that, you know, we're kind of unusual here in the United States, given our work. Now, I'm pleased to say, because of our aggressive heavy lifting on FOIA, others now know about it as a way to get access to information. But it's relatively unique here in the United States to just have a group focused on uncovering and battling government corruption. And to me, it's a great testament. I know there there are a lot of issues here in America, but it's a great testament to the American way and our rule of law that allows a little Judicial Watchto go into court and the IRS or the State Department or the Treasury, FBI, DOJ, they need to go into court and answer to the court as to why they're not giving us documents and what they're withholding and justify it.And so that's a rarity here in the United States and I know worldwide, we just don't have that sort of accountability in a regular way. First of all, if you're doing it in most other countries, you face financial ruin, imprisonment, injury, death to you and your family potentially. And that's just in France.
 
Yeah. So true.
You know, the point is, even in Western Europe, they don't like civic society. That's the term I use. They call it the non-governmental sector, which to me is just so communist in approach.It's the government, everything else, the government has to justify its role as a sector.The NGOs don't need their own little sector.We should be running the show, non-government entities. But as you, and I don't need to tell you in the United Kingdom, there are just few independent civic groups.Usually they're either creatures of the government or of the parties.And so it's hard for them to get the traction we're able to get here in the United States.And you see when a few of them do get traction or when there's more of a populist movement, how vociferous the reaction is by the state there in Europe and frankly in Canada and elsewhere. So thank God for America but you know this is this is a more than just a third world problem government corruption it's a first world problem.
 
Yeah no completely and what you're doing shines a light on that and expose the things the government obviously don't want people to see.But maybe I could just go through some of the freedom of information that you have done that gives people an idea of your work and an idea what's possible and shows the failures of government and institutions. I think one of the most recent ones just a few days ago was Biden's targeting of Christians and Judicial Watch have just filed a Freedom of Information Act along with Catholic vote civil action against the FBI and the Department of Justice. Why on earth are the government spying on Christians.Well, if you're a leftist, it makes sense, right? The church is an enemy of the state, unnecessarily.Certainly the left's cultural agenda here in the United States, whether it be abortion or radical transgender extremism.And so the FBI, they know who butters their bread, and they follow or they come up with things that they think will appeal, to their political masters, who are the left.And one thing this agency did in Richmond, Virginia, so the FBI, for those of you not here in the United States, and those of you here in the United States may not know this, you've got the FBI headquarters, but the offices of the FBI, the Richmond office and the New York office, they're kind of their own fiefdoms as well.And so they're substantial in terms of their power and influence.And Richmond's and the Richmond office decided that, you know, traditionalist Catholics could, be attractive to the terrorists they want to monitor domestically.And I mean, it's really laughable, Peter. It's worth reading.Everyone should read it.It just shows you how out of control the government is and how stupid it is.They do an analysis under the guise of this intelligence threat assessment of Vatican II and the debates in the church about Vatican II.So do you want the FBI analysing those who support the Latin mass versus those who think we should have a mass in the everyday tongue of the country?It's just incredible.But what's frightening is the document also makes it clear that they want to get sources in the Church.So what they were planning was spying onto the Catholic Church, using them as, using these sources as tripwires, right, to get the bad guys who are too pro-life or too extreme in terms of defending children from mutilation and such. So, you know, you shouldn't have to go to your, go to mass or go to church. In this case, obviously, the Catholic Church was being specifically targeted, but every Christian should worry and wonder if your pastor or or your priest is spying on you and watching what you're saying, or whether your fellow parishioner that you shared a sign of the peace with is, is it informant for the FBI?And now, of course, the FBI and the Justice Department run from that document once it became disclosed as a result of a whistle-blower disclosure to a former FBI agent.But I'm not confident that they've stopped this type of approach and, indeed the fact that they haven't given us documents about this scandal suggests there's more to, hide. That's why we're in court.
Well, how does that spying on its own citizens and the understanding that being a conservative is somehow dangerous to society?Does that just happen as the FBI under a Democrat regime, or is it so ingrained, that hatred of conservatism, that actually that prevails whoever is in the White House?Oh, well, you know, the history of the FBI is one of an agency that is often used to either protect or target the enemies of the sitting president, and they don't need to be told to do it.They kind of, as I said, they instinctively know who butters their bread.But I think things changed a bit with Donald Trump.He came in, was seemingly hostile to virtually every institution in the country, the drain the swamp approach.And so they decided that he needed to be taken out. And so you had these mandarins in the FBI decide that they were going to be, and I think actually, I forget who mentioned it, referenced the Praetorian Guard of old.They started off as quote, defenders of the Republic, right?And instead they became their own power centre. And I think we're seeing that with the FBI and the Justice Department.I was looking at their budget documents the other day, 30, I think it's 35, 37,000 staff, 13,000, which includes 13,000 FBI special agents, you know, $10-11 billion budget, and, I suspect that's about the size of most countries' militaries.And they're not just checking out, you know, and when you've got a bureaucracy that big, they're not just looking for bank robbers.No, I can bet. One of the other recent, people can go up on the website, obviously, and see all the press releases and the many regular FOIs, but universities being controlled from abroad, and this was a document showing the Texas A&M, which is a university there, it appeared to to receive $500 million, that's half a billion dollars, in grants from Qatar regime.And that's something massively concerning. We've had concerns here in the UK about Chinese influence on our universities especially, but also there is money and influence coming from the Middle East that probably is opposed to anything you would want freedom-wise in your country.So tell us about that.Well, when you give someone $500 million, you usually want something.You either want recognition or something in the least, the most charitable interpretation is, you know, at the university level, major donors usually seek recognition or to advance a specific academic goal.And so the question is, what was the goal here? I think, again, what, you know, it's one thing to say, oh, look at this money, it's terrible.You know, you just can't draw a conclusion. Well, someone gave money a gift, therefore it's terrible.You have to see what the circumstances are.And here the circumstances are, it looks like there was underreporting of the amount that was given.And it also is only being disclosed after hard-fought litigation in state courts that went up and down the Texas courts against the Qatar Foundation, which is a front for the terrorist-linked regime there.And so, if everything was on the up and up, this would have been a straightforward request for information. Indeed, Texas A&M I don't think had any initial objection.We had to fight the government, the Qatar government in lawfare here in the United States.It was really quite incredible.And, to me, it's like an easy, it's easy pickings if you're a foreign government seeking the influence, you just give money to universities and such.And in the case of China, there's a kind of almost an inherent, there's a special interest group because forget about giving money directly through Confucius Institutes or whatever the latest version of their academic fronts are, but you have a half, let's say a half a million Chinese residents here in the United States going to school, most of whom are paying full tuition.So the universities all of a sudden become advocates for this, just potentially dangerous relationships that we develop with these foreign countries through our higher education system.
 
Another story that broke and I didn't realize that you had been involved in putting the FOI.
 
We're involved in everything.
 
Yeah, I get it. So we talked about the power of the CCP but actually the story broke I think a month ago and the headline was the Federal Bureau investigation misled and stonewalled Judicial Watch on legitimate public record requests involving illegal Chinese police station opening in New York. And then your FOI, actually the people who you had put that in about, they suddenly get arrested. That is really concerning that a foreign government would have a police presence in the US and it makes you wonder kind of what else else is happening. But that was, again, your FOI that you'd put in.Yeah, I mean, we, you know, the idea that there are police fronts operating in the United States is not a new issue. You know, the folks have noted it and it took forever and a day, it looks like, for the FBI to get on it. And, you know, we asked for the documents and we got the run-around or they pretended there was no issue and didn't have anything to give to us. But sometimes even a non-answer is, indicates government scandal and corruption, but think about having the goal to run a police agency, practically speaking, that not only targets Chinese residents who are foreign nationals here in the United States, but American Chinese citizens, American citizens of Chinese origin.What chutzpah? And but on the other hand, you have a regime that thinks low enough of the United States and has Biden evidently deep enough in its back pocket that they can send in a spy craft to attack our sovereignty and do figure eights with no repercussions, practically speaking, above our secure military installations in the heartland of our country.In the heartland of our country. You have to wonder, obviously, what the Chinese are concluding from our lack of seeming outrage, I wonder what all of our friends must think, too.They won't defend themselves. Well, how can we rely on them to defend us or to help us, if push comes to shove?
Completely, and that one you'd put in, again in the UK, we put in FOI and they come back and say the information is too difficult to obtain and then you can put another FOI, but you then go down the legal route. That's intriguing. You're not without teeth that you're using the legal system, you're not simply requesting according to what your statutory allowed to receive, you're actually then going to the court. So you have that threat and it's often that threat or actually you in the courtroom forces the government to release the information.Yeah that's true, it's actually going to court that often gets a response and you can imagine it's the United States government, it spends more money than mine is, so and the bureaucracy is huge so that their resting state is incompetence or refusal to comply with the law since, there's little accountability on that and the only way to get their attention is through a federal court case often. But that also has, you know, thankfully thanks to Judicial Watch's well-known record for going to court, other FOIAs sometimes do get responded to that otherwise wouldn't. For instance, we've done a ton of FOIAs on and lawsuits on on COVID, its origins, the vaccine, et cetera.And it was just a separate FOIA that wasn't a lawsuit, but they knew we were sniffing around and had similar lawsuits on the same issue, that just disclosed recently that the Fauci Agency was funding in China through EcoHealth Alliance, which is a third party, a front or a pass-through for grants, the creation of literal mutant coronaviruses, And that's a quote. Mutants.To see how or if they could infect humanized mice.I never thought to call gain of function viruses mutants, but it's a rather obvious point.And of course, our government's figured out that's what they are too.And they've been lying to us about what they've been doing for years.And the conclusion from that, which to me is, to me, this is some of the biggest, the most important material, Peter, at least on this issue we've uncovered, it helps explain why there was this fanatic desperation to discount the lab leak theory.Because if it was, quote, a leak from a lab, and I don't know why we presume it was a leak if it came from a lab, it was either a natural virus in the lab that got out somehow, or it was an engineered virus.And what was the technique for engineering it, And what was the set of viruses that were engineered?Well, the answers to those two latter questions are it was the United States.And the gain-of-function technique was a US biological approach that we shared and exported to China.So, this COVID origin story isn't just about what the Chinese were doing, in my view.And that shows, because many conservatives have had big concerns at the government's role, institutions' role within that.But it's one thing to have concerns and suspicions, it's another thing to have the documentary evidence.Going through your FOI seems time and time again that you're providing the evidence to back up what the suspicions that have been there over time, but most other people are not doing that. It's you that are going in and actually delivering on the hard facts for the issues.Yeah, I know a lot of folks who have conspiracy theories, what is derided as, what are derided as conspiracy theories, and my view is actually the truth is usually worse than the conspiracy theory. It's worse once you know what they actually did, and it's usually folks with the conspiracy theories, they're usually in the right ballpark, but they've got the specifics and the mechanisms and the people involved wrong, and sometimes the motivation's wrong, but their suspicions generally are correct. Something went wrong with the way the vaccines were manufactured. That process was politicized and is untrustworthy, and how it was pushed out and information about the issues related to the vaccine were handled. Something went wrong about the vaccine, excuse me, the coronavirus and its origins. There was reason to suspect that what we were being told wasn't true. Or we should at least examine all sorts of possibilities, as opposed to just pretending some questions are you're not allowed to ask. I mean, this is the craziness of these days, Peter. It's not even saying this happened, or I believe this happened. You're not even allowed to ask the question.And I tell you, the wonderful thing about FOIA is we get to ask those questions.
Well, we find, yeah, that's an area you don't touch on. And another area you don't touch on, which you've talked about, another, we're told, is a conspiracy, is election integrity.And that's also because we've seen some lawsuits going in favour of actually cleaning up the system within states.But one of the FOIs you'd put in was in Colorado. And it's, the statement was, Judicial Watch announced that Colorado's Secretary of State agreed to settle a lawsuit alleging that Colorado had failed to remove ineligible voters from its rules. As part of a settlement, Colorado, I love this, will report to Judicial Watch on its yearly progress in cleaning up its rules for the next six years.I love that they have to answer to you, but that's a state-by-state issue that needs to be addressed, and that's one state that you then had a victory on, and I guess that has to happen state-by-state.
Yeah. Well, and we've been successful state by state. And that's not the FOIA. That's not Freedom of Information Act. That's a law that allows, under federal law, aggrieved parties to sue states and localities that aren't taking reasonable steps to clean up the voter rolls.And I think this translates internationally. If you have a list of people who are eligible to vote, you should make sure that list is as accurate and up-to-date as you reasonably can, because it invites fraud, right, if oh so-and-so moved and died or died I'm still getting their ballot or I know their their name is on the list I'm gonna vote in their name or do something other than something else nefarious which is why the law requires the list to be cleaned up it's not just Tom Fitton being worried that's the reason the laws there otherwise why would you have it, and of course at the federal level the leftist running the Justice Department have little interest in cleaning up voter rolls because I believe certainly here in the United Statesand I'm not naïve that both political sides, both sides of the aisle are often tempted to mess with election results.But they don't want cleaner elections here in the United States.And I think it's because, because I can't think of any other reason.They oppose voter ID, they oppose cleaning up the rolls. They want to expand the idea of voting from one day, through entire months.They want unsupervised voting, which is the way to think about mail-in balloting.And that's something that no one else does.And I don't like the point to say, oh, no other country does this, because usually most every other country does things wrong.But I don't think any sensible person thinks that having millions of ballots be mailed out, and people filling those ballots out And just mailing them back is any way to run an honest election.No completely, and I know we-
 
And necessarily undermines confidence in the election system.Even if people participate in it, they realize, boy, how do they make sure no one is being intimidated when they vote?How do they make sure no one is, that the actual voter who sends the ballot in is who the person says they are?Oh, if they collect ballots, how do we know those ballots are collected properly and there's certifications about their origin?there was no intimidation in the collection process. None of that is, practically speaking, checkable under the new systems that were set up under the pretext of the COVID pandemic.
Completely. Well, I know we often look to the States for hope here in Europe, but we just had an election and maybe one thing the US can learn from the motherland is that we actually do paper ballots. It's all counted on the one day and we don't use any voting dominion systems and it's it's all done and dusted and by 3 a.m. the next day you've got a result.
 
Yeah I mean and there's no excuse for the United States not to be able to do that. You know people say well the United States a bigger country. Well we don't run elections nationally, it's state by state. So there's no reason any major state in this nation can't figure out who won on election day.And we've also had another breakthrough where they now require voter ID so the left have realized it's not actually racist to ask someone for ID so we've had another breakthrough.
 
Well it's funny you know the left used to not like vote by mail because it used to be used by elderly republicans to vote.And then they decided they liked it. And everyone used to understand vote by mail was a kind of a recipe and invited voter fraud until it became politically, until they realized well we kind of like that so let's do more of it.
 
One of the other big things has been that the Trump raid records and I know you put down FOI and I think last month you'd said that you'd, they had released, the National Archives had released 1,200 pages of 8,000 records about that unprecedented raid. Tell us about that because it's vital that the American public know what was behind that, the reasons, the conversations, and I guess that will be another case of you then going to court to force those release off the other what six and a half thousand documents.
Well, let's take a step back here, Peter. Back in, it was like 10, 12 years ago, we found out that Bill Clinton had tapes of recordation's of his conversations with foreign leaders and members of Congress that he kept after he left office.Right? And we thought, well, isn't that a presidential record?You know, I don't need to explain, practically speaking, what that might mean.Talking to foreign leaders typically are, you know, those talks are almost always classified inherently.And we went to court and the Justice Department and the National Archives, which is the federal bureaucracy that handles presidential records, their preservation and such, they came to us and said, no, we can't, you can't force us to get these records.And the court said, you have to defer to the president.He gets to decide what's personal and what's not.And the Justice Department in a court hearing said, you know what, if he has records after he leaves the Oval Office, they're presumptively personal.So compare and contrast that with their new position, 180 degree difference, with President Trump.And so the same archives that went out of its way to protect Bill Clinton's right to keep whatever records he wanted, conspired against President Trump to try to nail him on this records dispute criminally.And, you know, it's basically a civil matter, even if it is a dispute and there's a basis for it.And now they don't want to tell us that, because to get the records, it's all about transparency, right? We got to know what the president was doing.Well, now we don't, they won't tell us what they were doing to go after the president.And to take a step further back, I'm kind of getting a little bit in the weeds there.But and in America here, the political media class, they like to talk about this as if it's serious and important. No one buys it.I mean, I tell you.There isn't a foreign leader who doesn't look at what America is doing and say, okay, the current president, his agencies are trying to jail the former president, and his number one opponent in the presidential campaign. They don't need the details.They don't need the, oh, oh, but this is why it's important. This is, this is the terrible crime.They see through it and they see America that's no better than anyone else internationally in the way they are supposed to follow the rule of law. And I think it's a terrible national security and international embarrassment to the United States because now our moral, you know, the moral weight we could throw when we talk about the concerns about having fair elections and accountable government and consent to the government. Well, all that's out the window.They're trying to jail Trump simply because he opposed the wrong people here in Washington, not because of any personal misconduct. And Putin and Xi and, you know, frankly, Macron and whoever the current office holder is in Downing Street, that changes, I know, every three months.
 
It does. It's Rishi Sunak today, but who knows who it will be tomorrow.
You know, they see what's happening in the United States, and they also recognize that attitude is there in their home countries. I mean, there isn't a major politician in any Western country that doesn't sit there because of the lack of rule, because of this contempt for consent of the government that doesn't sit there at the the sufferance of the deep state.
Which is, in my view, transnational in nature in terms of their attitude.It doesn't mean they're conspiring saying we got to put this person on this piece in this place on the chessboard. No, it's an approach and it's a shared approach.
One other area, and we had Miranda Devine on a few weeks ago and the Laptop from Hell and looking at Hunter Biden and you'd filed an FOI for a gun owned by him and I thought someone who had such a drug issue, an alcohol issue, wouldn't be eligible to get a gun but somehow. So tell us about that because obviously Hunter Biden's background, all the the business dealings that leads directly to Joe Biden himself.Well there are a few things there and so he was dating the widow of his brother and they got into a fight or dispute and she allegedly took his gun and threw it in a dumpster across the street from a school. Law enforcement got involved and the political reporting, the reporting on it was that the Secret Service and the FBI came and went to the store from which he purchased the gun and vacuumed up documents.So, to me, that shows improper involvement by federal agencies to take care of a political problem for the son of a major political figure.But when you think about the petty nature of what he kind of had to come in and sweep up for, and of course, we've been suing about those records, right?It helps explain, well, if they're doing that for little stuff, can you imagine what they're doing for big stuff?And certainly they've had the so-called Hunter laptop for at least since 19, excuse me, 2019.It's like a Hamlet-style agony about whether to prosecute Hunter since then, even though they have him dead to rights in a series of crimes.But there's new information now that just came out here from senior members of Congress that the FBI had evidence that Joe Biden had specifically been involved in a bribery scheme with a foreign nationals vice president, and all the evidence that's out there from the laptop and other witnesses suggest and show that Joe Biden was a beneficiary of Hunter's business dealings.So he got a cut of the action, you know, the infamous 10% for the big guy approach.So Hunter, I mean, Biden, Joe was a ran his operation like a Rico operation, a racketeering operation, a mob operation.And I think the challenge for his Justice Department, which is first and foremost moving to protect him, is they can't get at Hunter without getting and raising issues about Joe.So that's why you have this stalling and this hemming and hawing about, what you're going to go, if you go after Hunter for failing to disclose money on his tax returns, what about all the money he was giving his father?Is it he's subject to the same type of scrutiny? And if he hasn't, why not?We're in a crisis here. And you know, and some of that money came from the mayor of Moscow's wife. So you've got the Putin connection, Burisma. At least that was a company. So.Burisma was a Russian leading company. And then of course, you have the Chinese who were who had Hunter in their back pocket as well, obviously, because of his name and the influence. And it wasn't like the vice president was involved in all of this as vice president.So when Putin's making decisions and Xi is making decisions, how is it that they're not calculating Biden's corruption in their decision-making?You know, they're compromised, right? He's obviously has cognitive difficulties.He's compromised by the very public figures the public figures or political figures in China and Russia making these dangerous decisions.And so, you know, maybe, oh, does it mean we invade Ukraine because Biden's in our back pocket?No, but I would suggest it's a factor. Does it mean we are more aggressive around Taiwan or generally in China because Biden's in our back pocket?No, it's not the only reason, but certainly it's a factor. Too me it's a national security issue and it would be for any other country worth it's salt.All the issues you kind of talk about seem to be the Democrat party behind institutions, and I'm wondering will it come to the point where organizations like Judicial Watch and others need to actually go after either those on Capitol Hill or those in the institutions, AGs, I mean will it have to be actually going after those within the party itself?Well, we don't go after them under law because they are Democrats.We don't go after someone because they're Republicans. We try to apply the law.Or, you know, apply our focus without regard to political party.Though generally speaking, big government usually means big corruption.So we have all that money being spent. There's usually a lot of money sloshing up over the sides, right? Or it's usually being directed to political supporters as opposed to those in the public interest. And so ideologically, if you support bigger government, you tend to be more involved in corruption. I mean, it's just kind of, to me, it just goes with the just, it's part of the package. Now, Republicans, they abuse government to target us. They refuse to take action against corruption too often because they think politically it's not feasible or won't work for them, which to me is also a form of corruption.And so this temptation is great among both Republican and Democrats to kind of abuse these powers entrusted to them, especially if they think no one's watching.And I think the problem's not insurmountable. there's always going to be, you spend $4 trillion, there's going to be corruption, okay?But let's avoid having a Justice Department that is just thrown out all semblance of being dispassionate.Let's maybe have an FBI that is significantly curtailed, or if not, radically repurposed, to focus more on traditional law enforcement than political targeting of individuals.Let's ensure that our elections are as clean as we reasonably can.You know, the temptation is great. I mean, North Carolina, they had the stay here in the United States.They had to redo a congressional election because a Republican, essentially was engaged in a massive fraud.So we just have to be constantly vigilant. That's the price of freedom.To finish off with, Tom, for 25 years you've been president of Judicial Watch.And I guess there are many stories that if Judicial Watch hadn't been there, then the truth would never be told.And I think what you're doing is a model for other countries.And I know your focus is on the US, but there are other countries across Europe that have a similar freedom of information system, but it hasn't been used as well as you have used what you have there.
 
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
 
You obviously raise money from the public, you've got a big team, and tell us about that because ideally what you've built there is something that actually could be rolled out and used in other countries.
 
Well, we're able to fundraise directly and the fundraising laws here in the United States are very friendly to grassroots groups and the non-governmental organizations, a phrase I hate, to be able to raise public support and that's much harder, my understanding is, in other countries. It's just more difficult to raise money directly from the public, as I said, outside the, you know, they usually rely on the government or the creatures of the party. But there's a growing conservative movement internationally to address this transnational left-wing threat. Our folks are there in Europe this week now for CPAC Hungary, right, and there are conservatives from all over Europe there hanging out, figuring out ways to oppose Lothiathan.
 
Yeah, and I know I'm watching CPAC Hungary. So, Tom, thank you for your time. It's fascinating. I've followed Judicial Watch for quite a while and it's exciting to see what you're doing. So thank you for coming along and sharing insights on what is happening there with Judicial Watch.
 
Well, best of luck to you, Peter, thanks for having me on.
 
Thank you.

The Week According To . . . Karli Bonne’

Much excitement this episode as we head across the pond to welcome a new guest to Hearts of Oak, Karli Bonne'.Karli runs arguably the No 1 Conservative and current affairs social media account on the web, so this is a lady with her finger firmly on the pulse of what's happening now.So who better than 'The Cackling Conservative' to talk through what has piqued our interest in the news, in articles and from her social media posts over the past seven days.Buckle up 'Midnight Riders' as Karli and Peter take a close look at....- The crowning of King Charles III.- Sleepy Joe Biden misses the coronation of King Charles because he has a 'lot going on' !!- New York City shelters 'maxed out' with migrants.- Laptop From Hell: Biden says son Hunter 'has done nothing wrong'.- TikTok workers 'compiled list of users who browsed gay content'.- Boston holds 'Satan-Con' 2023.- EU displays Satanic Anti-Christian artwork by godless lesbian in Parliament.- 2024 National Republican Primary Polls.- The Don visits Scotland. Trump on top form as he lands North of the border.- Tucker Carlson makes first public appearance since Fox News committed Hari-Kari. - Military Bud Light moment? Drag performer is Navy's new 'digital ambassador' in bid to boost recruitment.Karli Bonne' is a retired model, dancer and a Rockstar wanna be.Now she is a full blown MAGA maniac video clipper with three phones, continuously laughing at the establishment because it’s like holy water on a demon. And these demons must be eradicated.You must follow her here....Telegram: https://t.me/realKarliBonne (Midnight Rider Channel)Truth: https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonneGETTR: https://gettr.com/user/karlibonneTwitter: https://twitter.com/KarliBonnita?s=20Originally broadcast live 6.5.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/
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(Hearts of Oak)And it is always good to have a new guest on, and it's good to have Karli Bonne' with us today.Karli', thank you so much for joining us.
 
(Karli Bonne')Wonderful to be here. I was saying to you before we started to be speaking with someone with that beautiful British accent on Coronation Day, and I took the liberty to ask you for apologies in advance for any memes or anything that I might have posted.That you would find offensive, but it's all good. We discussed it and we understand each other perfectly. It's all in jest, but congratulations. This is a historic day.
It is. It is. And certainly, I know that you always speak your mind. Any jest and good humour and mocking is always welcome. So people can find you @KaliBonne on Getter and Truth and @KarliBonnita on Twitter and @RealKarliBonne on Telegram, nearly forgot there, find you on Telegram.And you, I just feel bad bringing you on because I think you're just up day and night posting.So I feel bad cutting into your proper job.
I well, I've been doing this a long time. This is a new Twitter account. I've had like eight in the past.Elon Musk or his team reinstated one of my accounts midnight rider, But I no longer possess the phone does that I did it on doesn't work. I don't have the email or the, password so I just stare at it I look at it I go on Twitter said oh there's my old account and I waved to it I can't do anything with it and a dear friend from the Keystone Channel when I got finally got kicked off Twitter for the last time started my telegram account for me and now recently she started this Twitter account and they can't get me because she lives in Mexico now where she used to live in Europe.So, you know, I'm biding my time. I haven't even been on like a full week, you know?And it's like, you're on Twitter when you've been kicked off so many times, you're like, you're constantly looking over your shoulder. When are they gonna take me down?You know, I already got an 11 hour timeout.I got smacked on the hand because I called Brian Killmeade on Fox News a whore.But you know, it I didn't you know, it was a lovingly.You know, he does like a hundred different shows He does radio and anytime there's an open slot they stick his his head in and he took I mean, Tuckers seat wasn't even cold, and they popped him in there and you know, we were, I don't think it was just me. I think all of America was just livid over this and to put him in there. I guess, you know, and then, you know, he's had a few words about Steve Bannon and that really set me off. So the timeout was worth it and they didn't make me take down the tweet. So Brian Killmeade is still a whore.
Give us give us a minute of your background. We were chatting before, obviously, you said what you're doing is, is fairly recent, although you're a master of editing those videos.But what was your, what was your life leading up to that?
Well, as I told you, I was a wannabe rock star.My whole life I wanted to do acting or singing or modelling. I've tried it all.A lot of extra work. I sang in a Russian restaurant for almost 30 years of my life, every weekend, every holiday, every New Year's.And so, that was something I would imitate Marilyn Monroe. I had different characters I would do. And in between that, rock bands. We discussed how I lived in London for a couple of years trying to make it in music. And that was back in the day when we had People's Express Airlines and it was only $99 to fly to London. And the dollar was almost equal with the pound.So I had the most glorious wardrobe shopping in Kensington. And I lived in Camden Town.I worked at the Dingwalls restaurant in Camden Town and the big place you wanted to see was the Camden Lock, which was this little waterway with a little bridge and little canoes going through. That was the tourist attraction in Camden Town.
Still is.When all of that failed and I kept trying, I started, because I was posting my music, I started with MySpace and Facebook and then all of a sudden this whole thing with politics started and I was like, who is this Trump guy?I mean, I loved him on TV, always made me laugh. And then I was like, they keep attacking this guy.There's something up with that. And I've been a Trumper ever since.And I have three phones.I just post and post and post and get the videos out there Telegram is a great, App because I can edit the videos right on telegram Which saves a lot of timeand this this just what I do now. I try to make people laugh. I keep them informed I use the telegram is like almost like an aggregator, I post everything on there. A lot of people say well, why do you post clips from Fox and I'm like, Because it's basically the only app that lets me rip the video.Where I tried it with CNN MSNBC. You can't do it. They have it blocked. You can't screen record and I do everything from an iPhone I have like three little mini computers on my bed and I work, you know, like this I put the big glasses on and this is what I do. But I enjoy it. There's a lot of wonderful people that support me and use the videos. It's all good.
I love having that telegram and getting all those clips that you put out, but let's jump in to the news. And as I said, today was was a huge day in British history. And I also get all the huge issues and push back on all the WEF stuff, everything else and I get that.But I do love the pageantry which is in the UK. So ProJam, can we play the first video? (video plays)God save the King!(music)And it goes on. That's a little, but what were your thoughts as someone across the pond, kind of, we obviously, Queen Elizabeth after such a long time, passed away, but kind of, how do you view those type of events? Is it with curiosity? Is it mocking even? Tell us Karli.
Well, I mock everything. I have no mercy. I mock everything. But, you know, I've always, you know, the pageantry is beautiful, you know, and you like the intrigue. I'm not a big, crown fan. I don't watch the series or anything like that. I do love period pieces, because I love the costumes. I love the clothing. You know, you love all the gold and the diamonds, you know. You'd be a liar if you didn't like all that. And, you know, wanted to see what what Harry was going to do.And you know, I had it on the TV, but I was too busy making memes about it. I'm so sorry.But no, it was beautiful. You know, I woke up just in time to see Charles crowned, and there it is, it's done.And now tonight, which I find pretty amazing, they're gonna have the big concert, and all the people in this concert are American performers.What does that say? Here you have, here's your new king, who's very big with the W E F and the climate and all the stuff you would think Labour and all the lefties would appreciate where the queen was just like, you know, kept it on the down low.You know, she wasn't vocal. I mean, if you hear Trump's story about her, she said, oh, I like everyone.Everyone is wonderful. You know, she was just neutral and just kept the ship sailing.You know, this guy, Charles has come out and has said things like, we're all gonna die.We gotta do something about the climate. And you know, I don't know, is he gonna still do this?But the fact that you don't have, you know, where's Adele? Where's Elton John?I mean, why aren't they performing? I mean, this is a real slap in the face by your own people.That we got, we got Katy Perry over there and Lionel Richie. I mean, they had to take the stars from our Idol TV show. Seriously. There's one video out where there was a view of the chapel, and you can see like this figure that looks like he's the Grim Reaper walking across.And I put up, I said, is Gandalf Katy Perry's plus one today?Because they made a big thing. She had a whole article that she was making fun.She couldn't find her seat. We had, well, they had Jill Biden, the professor, Dr.Jill, the professor, all the way in the back row behind Slavonia.And, you know, she's all the way in the back. Joe Biden couldn't even be bothered to go. He said last night on his Fluff Piece, interview that he's very busy. You know, he's getting, you know, he wants to finish the job.He's very busy.
 
Can I bring what actually you, the president, actually the president did come, Dr. Jill did come. I think she probably knows what's happening much more than Joe. But this is, I did find this Funny, Professor Curtains.Tell us about this, because she does seem to blur in. And there she is with her, was her granddaughter.And it does look like the Ukrainian flag in many parts, as she did.
And their carpeting was Ukrainian flag colours. Did you see that?
I saw that. Saw that.
I was like, what is that all about? You know, I am friends with a lot of, people that look into things like this and see it as messages, you know, is there a conspiracy there?
It's yeah,
 
It's it's not that you're putting up the lookout on.Ronda, Ronda Nell, Iowa. I inspired her because it seems like everything that Jill Biden wears looks like a piece of furniture or curtains or something. And she did a whole thread over on Twitter with all the different looks like Jill Biden is a couch.Today, they put up she actually looked a little bit like if they melted them both together, it would have been Snow White's outfit, even with the little bow in the hair.It's just crazy. And she did shower curtains. See, I joke when I put it in a tweet that's like, there's what is Alice wearing today? The joke is she looks like Alice Cooper. Yeah.And we say, you know, and I'll put up an outfit that she has on at the time and I'll say, okay, everybody, what the hell is Alice Cooper wearing today?Everyone goes nuts and they do the side by side pictures and it's just become this running gag and some people have done whole threads.[14:24] They have found actual tablecloths and curtains and throw rugs and couches and vinyl shower curtains that have matched all her outfits. It's very disturbing. This is the First Lady.It's very disturbing. Yesterday she met with Kate. And I believe it was the Zelensky's wife. And they both had solid colours on they look very nice. And she came in with this flower dress. I said all I got to do is tip her over and put the tea on top of her and use her as a table.Cause she looked like she was wearing the tablecloth.
It's true, I saw that.
 
It's so embarrassing.Well, yeah, you've got many things in your political worlds are embarrassing.Actually, we also are the same, but let me, this was a clip, I think it was from Fox News.You'd posted talking about Biden being rude and anti-British. Let's bring this up.Pro Jam. Can you play that little clip?
 
(video plays)
Here in London. Also missing, of course, along with Meghan Markle, is Joe Biden.Biden is absent from the coronation. I do think this is a very rude signal that Biden is sending to the British people. A lot of unhappiness, certainly on the ground in the UK, with regard to Biden not bothering to attend. And Biden is seen by many Brits as very anti-British.Really? You know, Hilary,
 
You see the woman, she said yes, because you realize it was just a week ago he was in Ireland. And he had the crowds all swooning and you know he can't get crowds like that in his own country. They all sit in little circles.
 
They actually believe he's the president there, so they do come out. But you're right, he was over in Ireland and the whole thing was he was in Northern Ireland and the car, I think someone had posted, didn't even have a Union Jack on the car but he went to the Republic of Ireland and again all the tricolour flags and it seemed to be two fingers up to Britain. So yeah.
 
That question, because you would know this better than I do, the part of Ireland he supposedly is part of or his, you know, lineage or whatever, is this the part of Ireland that doesn't want Brexit? Are they part of Brexit?
So it was part of the Republic of Ireland. So the Republic being a separate country for just over 100 years. So you've got Northern Ireland as part of the UK, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. And you've got the issue with Brexit in Northern Ireland.But the issue is Republic of Ireland rely on the United Kingdom, Northern Ireland for trade.So anything that happens to us hits them.But it's a yeah, it's it's a very.
 
We did one of these.
 
Yeah, yeah, he did.
Yeah, I know how to curse in British.But was that was that reported on at all? His trip over by a Biden trip over to the UK?
Oh yes, they made a very big deal of it, you know.They're saying, oh, look how they welcomed him. And meanwhile, he was having his usual brain farts.He's there with Hunter, now supposedly Hunter, the broke son who wants to give less money to his daughter.OK? He supposedly slept on a cot while he was in Ireland.I'm like, give me a break.A lot of stuff is hitting the fan. I don't know if that was like their last hurrah trip.And then Jill going to England without Joe, like Joe is playing it low key, or they're basically, he's announced that he's running.So now there's no debates and they're gonna run the basement campaign they did during COVID.He did a little puff interview last night. Even with the editing, it was terrible.
What, 10 p.m.?Was it late at night, 10 p.m. I saw.
 
Well, I don't know that it might've been taped.I don't think it was live.Okay, so I think it was definitely after tapioca and close to bedtime.So I think, you know, they got him. He was still a lunch bag. It's embarrassing.But he has the media covering for him.He has newspapers covering for him. And now, I noticed that I'm on Twitter now.I would always check. They never tweeted for him much. I know he doesn't tweet.The man does not tweet.Okay, he just learned how to take selfies this past year. Because I remember when he started his campaign, he didn't even know how to open the phone.He was looking to see if it flips open.Okay, but he doesn't tweet, but it seems his staff, they think they're going to get him out there through social media.So today it's been like a tweet storm. I've lowered these costs and I've added these jobs.And it's like every 20 minutes or so, it's a new tweet with some lying stats.And what's great now that Elon purchased Twitter, he's getting community noted to death.He's getting fact-checked by the community.Not by Politico, not by all those phony fact-checkers that used to fact-check all of us.No, it's the community, because this is the town square. This is where we all go.We're all independent.We think independently, and we see that this is a lie.So it's a beautiful thing. Now, this is why they didn't get rid of TikTok.Because if you go over to tick-tock and I'm on my fourth or fifth or sixth account over there because they kept taking me down. They hate Steve Bannon on TikTok, Hate him. I've lost so many accounts He's the guy, gotta stop putting up the Steve Bannon videos, you know, and I'm like, I'm never gonna stop doing that, But it's all these young, with 1 million 2 million followers young lefty kids and and they've invited them to the White House.This is, you know, they're going to run their campaign the way they think Donald Trump did in 2016, where it was social media, minus the rallies, because this man can hardly speak and doesn't know when to get on or off the stage or what direction he's going.I'm just so glad he's announced he's running. It's one of the greatest gifts, I think, to your country.And the world. But you mentioned about in the interview, this is the Daily Mail article, Joe Biden claims he couldn't attend King Charles' coronation because he's got a lot going on. And also the interesting thing, and this was the editorial piece in the Daily Mail, it says, the president dispatched his wife Jill to attend the ceremony's place. I know that was a beautiful dispatched, it seemed to be quite disparaging, quite mocking. I thought this is great, the, media are getting it and they're willing to mock him and I've seen that fairly regularly, where in the first year or so he could do no wrong, he had slayed Trump and suddenly they seem to be turning on him and realising he's an utter disaster.Well, you know, the Daily Mail, that's a British paper, isn't it?So this is very insulting. I mean, they'll do different articles and stuff that are very good, but they cover the monarchy and everything that has to do with the queen or the king now and this, this does not rub them the right way. This is a total two fingers up that he didn't go, that he's too busy. Now I'm sure that the White House didn't use the word dispatched. I'm sure the Daily Mail is taking that a little that's that's their wording. You know, I don't think the White House would say that. And the fact that oh, he's very busy.Well, he's not busy with AI because Kamala is doing that now. He's not busy with the border because he sent my York is down there. What else is he not busy with?I can't think. And also, he's not busy with press conferences. He doesn't do those.What is he busy with? His team is arguing with Hunter Biden's lawyers.Hunter Biden wants to start his own GoFundMe for the lawyers.And Biden's team is like, you can't do that. I mean, we covered for you with the paintings.We couldn't be transparent, you know, you're solo artist, you're out there, you know, who buys your paintings, that's your business, that's separate from the White House.But now you want to start a GoFundMe for your baby mama problems?And now we're finding out, you know, Brennan, that the same cast of evil characters with the Russia Russia Russia hoax. Here we go again. They're the ones that we're talking to Blinken and do we got an IRS whistle-blower? We got other whistle-blowers and it's all bubbling up and you know what's going to happen? They're going to bring in Michelle Obama.How can they really run this guy? They won't let him debate.Yeah. They won't let him go out for too long and speak.They're going to win by tweeting and TikTok? A bunch of kids screaming on TikTok?Think about it. I think, you know, are they gonna have a new kind of COVID?
Don't give them ideas.
 
They're gonna have to pull something because you can see with the polling and with that, even with that softball interview last night, it's utterly embarrassing. And this coronation thing, him not being there, and they're keeping Jill very low profile. They stuck her all the way in the back of the church. Okay. We have no American media taking, you know, oh, she's so glamorous and look at this, you know, because she's not. She walks like she's been on a tractor for six hours. You know, this is not an attractive woman. And see Simpadwey, what kind of stupid thing? She's going to talk like this, like, you know, Jersey girl.Oh, it's such a mess. And, you know, for the life of me, because it's so embarrassing, I can't think like a Democrat and see how the hell do we get out of this mess?
Well, let me bring up, this was the New York Post headline you put up, and this is another thing that Biden is not doing, sorting out the border.Beautiful headline, maxed out with New York City shelters full, Adams buses migrants to Rockland County. Furious officials say this is absurd, we will not stand for it.I love it the way these Democrat cities and states are actually beginning to feel the heat, whenever Texas and Florida and others say, well, enough is enough. How do you view this? Will this force things to happen? Will some of the Democrat voters waken up and realize actually what is happening on the border?
 
Well, it can't be ignored anymore. And this is maxed out now, and this is before title 42 is lifted. Meanwhile, they never were really enforcing it. And they're trying to pass a bill to have title 42 for another two years, because even if it's, It was used for COVID.There's other diseases coming.They have these tent cities and stuff. They got scabies. We could get an outbreak of smallpox, measles. There's all other diseases. It's not just COVID. And they say, well, it was used for COVID.Well, it should be used for the next two years for a lot of things. I've watched videos where they're actually washing lice out of the migrants' hair. This should have been addressed when the first baby. First little baby was thrown over the wall. Not Trump's wall, another piece of wall, someone climbed up there and threw a baby over and left it sitting there. That's when this should have been addressed. When they had they weren't in cages, they were in plastic tents. And Ted Cruz went down there. That's when it should have been addressed. And they're saying, oh, we have a six point plan, eight point plan, my orcas should be thrown out.Actually, the way our country has been so overrun, I consider it treason.And I think Biden should be sent out on a rail.Because this is treasonous. This is invasion of our country.And this has been going on for two years. And they're saying Congress has to do something.We didn't have this problem when Trump was president.And they all had AOC down there crying next to a fence in a parking lot.And she said, oh, they're drinking out of toilets. Meanwhile, it's in those facilities, the sink is on top.And the toilet, it's one fixture. And she's drinking out of toilet, where is she now?Where is she now?They found a young girl was raped so many times, They found 47 or something different kinds of DNA inside of her.They have lost 87,000 children. Joe Biden is a child sex trafficker and a child sex trader, slave trader.They're talking about reparations in California. Look at your president, people.You voted for this man!And he is flesh trading your precious migrants that you're all so concerned about.And now you're saying if the men down there, which is a lot of men, Chinese men, all different countries coming in, if they dress up in drag, they'll be let in immediately. This is the signals they're sending out. We have warriors that are down there at the Darien Gap and at the, border since day one of this nonsense reporting on this. So don't say that this is all new news. We all know about it. America knows about it. A lot of Democrat senators, governors, mayors, congressmen that are on those border states, they don't wanna lose their job. They're speaking up now too.So the fact that they waited until the last minute.It's shameful, it's shameful. I don't want to see anybody in pain.
Well, another thing that's shameful, and you talk about treason, you mentioned it earlier on, this was the headline from Fox News, Biden says Hunter has done nothing wrong ahead of possible indictment. I did listen to him saying that because I thought, no, surely he couldn't have said it.I trust him. I had faith in him and it impacts my presidency by making me feel proud of him, Biden says of son Hunter Biden. I mean, it's all out there, all the evidence. Again, will the American people get it?Because obviously the last election, this was suppressed and that's all come out.All the information is now out there.What's going to happen? Because it seems as though the net is tightening closer and closer on Hunter.Well, the fact that he went on there, he's gonna stick to it because he's a stubborn, nasty old coot, okay?A lot of people say, oh, he's got the dementia and stuff. I watch him in different settings where he starts drifting off, but then someone will shout a question at him and he'll turn around and snap and you see the nasty old man.All right? So I take the dementia with a grain of salt. I think a lot of it's acting and he's playing the grandpa love me Joe, but he's nasty.Yeah, this is a nasty white trash family. They're white trash. They're trash. And remember the video when Tucker Carlson interviewed Tony Bobulinski and Tony Bobulinski, Tucker asked him, he goes, how are they getting away with this? How did they think they were going to get away with this? And Tucker was being honest. He's like, you know, bewildered. You're telling me all these horrible things and you got proof and you got emails. How are they getting away with it. And Bobulinski just looked at him and said, plausible deniability.Because they're actors. This man, he said last night, I have the best resume, I've been doing this forever.I know better than anyone.Yeah, knows how to play the system, skated through it, kept getting put back in office.You know, you got friends at the unions that are gonna pay for the politics and pay to play.And then you bring in other countries.It's, I just hope this whole thing with Comer doesn't turn out to be like, uh, Trey Gowdy and Benghazi.Because here we all thought, oh, we're going to get some, every time we all thinking we got the popcorn ready and we're going to get some accountability and then it just disappears and we have nothing.And the left laughs. And we're left like just all that energy drained.So I don't get my hopes up. I post what's coming out.I keep everybody up to date with what's happening.And I keep myself up to date.But you know, I take every, I don't get excited anymore.They broke in my spirit. I want to see justice.There's a lot of things we still haven't seen justice for.What happened with Durham? Where is Durham?We made all the memes with, you know, the Punisher shirt and we're, yeah, Durham's coming.He lost two cases and then he disappeared.And they were such low bar cases to nobodies.And there's so many, in the hierarchy of the, as Cash Patel would say, the government gangsters, there's so many at higher levels of power that we have dirt on, that the country, the whole world has seen.And no one cares. It's business as usual. And that drives me crazy.Just when I think I can quit and say, Oh, everything's good in the world.I can't let it go because it's not been settled and these people are getting away with things.And every time, this is a funny bit, every time there's new news on some rotten stuff that these people have done, there's a new accusation against Trump.You know, don't look here, look here. but Trump did this, so don't even worry about that.That's, you know, that's Russian propaganda. Look at what Trump did.And then they put out videos of Trump and his deposition. And he's a beast.He's a beast. You know, I've never been one of those women that was like, oh, he said, grab him by the, oh, oh, that's terrible. Oh, you're such a liar.You're all lying. You women love it.Everyone wants a man's man.Nobody wants a Bud Light drinker these days. We want real men, especially if the zombie apocalypse comes, you want a real man.You know? So none of that bothers me. And all the phony, they're so phony.All of them, they act prissy and like, oh, it's so horrible. Oh, he's a rapist.Oh, he's this. Oh, he's that. And they're all, you know?Oh, you're so phony. I see right through you. You're a piece of...I have to mock you and meme you to oblivion because you're ridiculous. Ridiculous people.
I love watching some of the depositions. I haven't seen it all, but they're so good. There's so many outtakes of it
 
He's such a beast. Oh god, just when you think you cannot love this man more. Oh god, I love it. Wonderful.
Let's go to something completely different. This is TikTok and I'm curious to get your thoughts, not specifically on this, but on TikTok in general and all the debate. I had to laugh at this. TikTok workers compiled lists of users who browse gay content, which sparked complaints from some employees who were concerned it could be used to blackmail people. Surely not. There's a massive debate at the moment in the US on TikTok and the influence it has. And of course, that leads back to China and whether individuals are in control of China. And this kind of connects with that, that TikTok gathering information to be used for blackmail, that kind of does connect at all the dots, doesn't it? But what's been happening TikTok-wise in the US?Well, I told you, I'm like on my seventh account, they keep taking me down because they don't like Jesse Waters, they don't like Steve Bannon, they don't like Fox News. Now you will get taken down for supposedly disinformation about the climate and it's basically an lbg ptq playground.And it's sad because you know it is a great platform for making videos and things it really, is a it's great I love using it a lot of people say oh it's china in my phone I said you're worried about China in your phone. Can we be completely honest here folks? You're worried about China in your phone.The overlords of our own government are in your phone. You have Google on your phone, you have Facebook on your phone. We just found out from the Twitter files that the CIA and the FBI were in your private messages. Okay? And you're worried about China? What's China going to do to me that hasn't already been done? Where they released a catastrophic virus and you're worried about TikTok? This is how I knew they were never going to get rid of TikTok. They went through the motions, oh, federal employees can't use TikTok. They could go home and use it, but when you're on the job or if you have a federal employee's special phone or something, you can't use TikTok.And it was all the big rage. They had the CEO of TikTok up there. None of these people knew what they were talking about. They know nothing. And another thing, if you've ever been on Discord, or any of these other platforms like that, gaming platforms, the CIA's in there, China's in there.I would say MI6 is probably in there. So this is nothing new. Spy versus spy, this is nothing new.So this new thing that they, you know, had a bunch of information, didn't we just get through a whole bunch of employees from banks that they got hacked and all their information was put out?You're going to see this a lot more, especially now we're getting closer to maybe China invading Taiwan, or right now there's a stalemate with the Russian-Ukraine war.We're going to see a lot more cyber stuff go down, a lot more.So, who knows, someone might just take TikTok down all on their own.So I just, I don't worry about it. I just use any outlet I can, whether it's to make videos, post videos, or share videos from.You know, because I got 50 followers now on TikTok when I used to have 20K.You know, it's hard to build up again when they don't like you.They're not gonna let people see you.So who does that, the Chinese overlords, or is this now the Democrat party that's in charge?Because if you look, all the people that say to get off TikTok are not on TikTok, but now AOC, what was it, Watermelon Head Schiff, the minute he got kicked off the intel committee, he opened up a TikTok account.Was crying over there, you know what I'm saying? These people don't care what you think.They don't care. They don't listen to their own advice because a lot of them know it's nonsense.So I feel bad that people's information is being put out there, but that's it.Look, your bank information could fall into the wrong hands.Look what's happening with the banks collapsing.All right. You know, you're one hack away. All of this reminds me, they took the show off, Westworld.Have you watched Westworld?
 
Yeah, I've watched some of the early ones off it. Yeah, yeah.
The last season, it was incredible. They were able to do with sound waves, like they would infect you with a fly, like a fly would fly into you, I guess with nanobots and stuff.And they had a building that you couldn't even see.And it would let off a sound, and it was able to control you.But the season before, the robots or fembots or whatever they were, were able to hack into the system and show everybody what everybody really thinks of them.Everyone was exposed. There was just one day everyone's looking at their phone. The system was hacked. The AI was hacked and everyone saw the truth and it became complete Anarchy. People were just killing each other left and right blow countries blowing each other up when everyone finally saw the truth It was anarchy now, what if we all finally got the truth and we weren't all just conspiracy theorists anymore, What if we finally were told the truth?Have they been hiding the truth from us because they're afraid of this kind of anarchy?Or do they just want to keep us dumb cows, tell us what to eat, what stove to buy, what car to buy, pay the taxes so we can have other people tell us what to do?Is that the point of our existence? or is our existence to ask questions, worship God, have a family, enjoy life, feel the grass under our feet, one with our beautiful world.Like Elon wants to go to other planets. Let's deal with this one because we got some evil people on this planet.I told you, I laugh at them. I get kicked off of platforms because I laugh at them.And I record myself laughing at them. It goes viral.And I laugh at them because it's like holy water on a demon.When you make jokes, like the memes are so important that everyone does because that laughter, it's not only good for the soul, but it exposes the truth.That's why they try to shut down so many comedians.And now the comedians are shut down because we got a strike.
I saw that. No, but memes are so powerful. So powerful.And President Trump put up this latest poll, 2024 National Republican primary, Trump 58%, DeSantis 22%, Pence, is Pence still running?5%. Ramaswamy 5%, Haley 4%, Christie.And what are your, because he obviously is streets ahead, and what's kind of the process?When did the kind of primaries start and when?I really can't believe anyone would run against him.As much as I really do like DeSantis and like what he's done in Florida, I don't understand the logic for running against Donald Trump.
Well, from what I've seen in the past, a lot of people get in primaries because they're looking for cabinet jobs. They don't expect to be president like Ed Buttigieg and Kamala and all those people that lined up at the last election. Buttigieg is now in charge of airplanes. Look how good that's working out. You got Kamala, she quit. She was less than 1%. She quit before they even had a primary, and now she's vice president.So sometimes people run, like you saw President Trump put out a truth social giving some kudos to Varuswamy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that.
You know, so saying, you know, you're doing a good job, you know.He never puts down Nikki Haley.But he goes right after Ron because everyone says oh because you know, he's closer to him in the polls No If you know anything about our President Trump, He's been saying it his whole life. If you ever read any of his books or seen old videos of him, you know one thing, he values loyalty. He is a businessman if you're not loyal and I do something for you stay loyal to me. We'll make things work out. He could have made him, in DeSantis in 2028, the biggest thing anyone's ever seen.Or even think about vice president, but because he's doing this, now you got people fighting on Twitter.Oh, the DeSantis people or the never Trumper people and now DeSantis people and that Chris Christie and his fat ass wants to get in.Give me a break, you know?I guess nothing happened when Mike Pence went to give his deposition because I'm sure if there was one iota of damning things that he said, it would be in the news right now.
It's true, yeah.Because they love to leak. They love to leak.So when you don't hear anything, that's a good thing.It's a very good thing when you don't hear anything. But Mike Pence, I don't know, is he gonna run?Who knows? A lot of these people. I mean, who is it that in California? It's this people running that have no chance in hell. It's a Hutchinson. Are you kidding me? A race ahead.Get out of here. All right. What does he want to do? Is he running so he could just collect as much money as possible? Then once he doesn't even make it to a primary, he can go and write a book and then do a tour. I ran for president a lot of see this is a whole, money-making scheme Beta O'Rourke has run for everything with his arms flailing in the air looking like he's on the parking lot of a used car lot.And that's how he makes his money. He's disappeared Where is he now? They got a new guy that did pumping up, to run against Ted Cruz in texas, I never heard of the guy, but he looks like one of these bodybuilders and there's already dirt coming out of the sky.You know? So bring it, people, because you know what? We do our homework and we will find the dirt on you and not be quiet about it.
Let's move on to, there are lots of comments down on GETTR, I won't be able to pull them.This for just the first minute or so but we'll play it anyway.
(video plays)Welcome back. Welcome back.President Trump, a quick word to the Irish friends.What's it like being back at Ireland for the first time since the election?This has become a big success. We love it.Special place. You see what happened out there with the kids and yeah.We help them and they help them. It's really a very special place.Great course, great hotel.You're here very shortly after President Biden's visit. What did you make of President Biden's visit?What did you make of the crowds? I mean, I didn't see too much of his visit.I don't know what he did here, but this is special.And we're here to pay homage to this great property. This property has revitalized a big part of Ireland and the people are happy.And we have incredible people working here. A lot of them, too. You see some of them, a lot of them.And so it's been great, it's been really great. There's a lot of yous in Ireland, a lot of them paying an awful lot of corporate tax here. Do you think some of that corporate tax, or at least most of that corporate tax should be paid in America?Well, that's an interesting question, but I won't answer that question in your country.But a lot of people would say yes, but Ireland's done a great job.You've lured a lot of companies in, and they love it here, they really love it here.They've been treated well, just like I've been treated well.This has been a great success, and we bought this, it was a great property, but it had to be finished.And we have really completed it, and it's beautiful. And now we'll do some additions.And the course is one of the best courses in the world, actually, one of the best courses, with some of the most beautiful dunes in the world.So we've had a good time. You've had some planning difficulties, though.What do you think of the Irish planning system and the recent refusal of planning commission?Well, I think we've had very good luck. You know, most of this is built because of planning commission.But what we've wanted to do, I think they've pretty much led us to the important things.There's been a lot of attention on the Northern Ireland post-Brexit trading agreements.How do you think those negotiations are going? Well, we're going to see.They're negotiating and we're going to see.But there are a lot of negotiations going on in Ireland and other places right now.But that's going to be a tough one. It's not an easy one. We're gonna have to work it out.Will cut short, uh, President Trump, but it was, it was Ireland. So he did do Scotland and then went to, uh, Ireland, but it's
 
Right before that he was outside with a hat on and all the kids saying to him. Yeah. So I felt bad because he knew his hair was messed up. He knew it. He knew he had that little puff right there and he wanted so badly to fix it, but he was just like, he's so stoic.You know, he takes the questions, he knows, you know, sometimes they're going to be hard, but let's say, yeah, but and he knows how to direct to something else and say, yeah, but we're doing this and this is good for Ireland. And he's very good. He's, you know, Joe can't do that. Joe can't do that.
 
But Trump, he always is so good. He, he, he takes all the questions. He, he doesn't but anyway, and he, he's that personal touch because he knows his stuff and poor Joe doesn't know what day of the week it is, never mind knowing about policies, talking to the press.
 
Well, supposedly Joe was picked by Obama, for his, he was good with foreign affairs, and we all see what has happened with the foreign affairs.
Since Joe became president, okay. If anything, he was good at foreign affairs because he was able to send his son the bag man and make some bank for the family. That's why he knew the foreign affairs. He knew who to talk to and where to send the poor kid, you know, who turned out to to be pretty rotten, you know, it's just, oh.But Trump, he's a businessman, you know, I love you get a morning Mika and and that whole rotten crowd over there on MSNBC and they're like, Oh, he's just a game show host.He's been a businessman. He's been in real estate. He's worked with the boxing, the casinos.He's not, just because he had a great show.All right, because of his status from all the other things that he did.Best selling books. I mean, come on, you know, they try to really cheapen him. Because they're so damn jealous. And they all loved him when he was a Democrat. Chuck Schumer was like, come back, come back, you know, when he was running against Hillary at that dinner. And then what did Chuck do? He came out with as many knives and Uzis and whatever else, landmines, anything he could throw at this man to ruin his presidency.Well from a political heavyweight to a media heavyweight, and then we'll just finish off with looking at your US military gone fully woke.But this is Tucker Carlson. This is just short, 30 seconds, I think.Pro Jam, play this and listen to Tucker and his speech.If you can.Or not.This is, well Tucker's line is, I didn't realise how much free time I would have when I accepted this speech. This is his first public appearance since his removal from Fox News. But what are, your, everyone is speculating, everyone is thinking what on earth is he going to do next. He obviously wasn't expecting it because he said he was going to be on on the Monday and then wasn't.And I mean, Tucker could do anything he wanted. So how are you watching this individual who is bigger than really anyone else in the in the media space?
I'm what you know, when he posted that video at 801 on the first night that the whore Brian Kilmeade was in his slot and he posted on Twitter and that tweet of him, you know, just being him and putting out a message to everybody got more views than anything.It was just, it was insane.
 
Like 25 or 40 million or something or some,
 
It's like I don't even know where it's at now. It's just Ridonculous. All right, and uh, he could go anywhere the question I have is I would like him to do an interview or put out another video to let us unless he's, they might have him, Under a contract where he can't speak, like, you can go and do these speeches at these private venues, like, that video is somebody holding up a phone, that's uncivilized.He could probably, he could do things like that, but if he was to go on somebody's show, I mean, Fox could have him silenced.I would like to know these things. I want to know how much freedom does he actually have.Are they keeping a boot on him till after the election? How long is this gonna last?Are they paying him out? Is he fired? Was it mutual? You know what I'm saying? They did him dirty. They did him dirty. But is he and he can go anywhere. He could just start his own podcast.It would just be insane. It would be the biggest thing ever. Is he taking time now to enjoy his family. He'll talk here and there. I think he sent a message to CPAC in Ukraine, not in Ukraine, in Hungary, didn't he?
He did. He sent a 30, 40, short message to them. But I think he did that before he was removed.
 
Because it was on his set.
Yeah. But he said, if I'm ever sacked, then I will be with you. And then he was sacked.
Well, that's what I'm saying. Anything that he was to do now. He could get sued by Fox because he's under contract. You know that they get you. They get you.You thought you sign your life away. Or you read renegotiate but they could have him on hold for for six or nine more months. I mean, he it's not like he's he's gonna starve to death, but you gotta think of politically where we are.He was a huge voice that we needed and nobody on Fox is gonna fill that hole.So that's why we go the independent route and we all support each other, and just keep supporting each other like what you do.Me with my kooky videos and my memes and stuff, everybody, keep the pressure on, keep laughing at them, keep throwing that holy water, exposing these demons that need to be eradicated from our world.Because they will not stop. They will never stop. They will never give up.They're dug in. Now are we gonna be like all the RINOS of the past and the ones that want to move in now because there's a void there and we're going to roll over and show our bellies and say, oh give me a little scratchy it's okay, let it be like that no we've been fighting for too long to to give up now, way too long, please.Giving up, it shouldn't even be a thought.Can I just finish, just two or three minutes just on this. I just want to throw it in on the US military.And Steve had posted this, which Daily Mail story, but the Navy is 8,000 recruits short because red blooded Americans don't want to join a freak show, I'm not sure this Navy is ready to defeat the CCP fleet in a gun battle in the South China Seas.I mean, the last thing you need for your recruitment campaign for the military is a bloke dressing up as a woman and somehow, someone, somewhere has decided this is the way to fix your military shortfall.Um, yeah, uh, Steve calls it I perfectly. It is a freak show.Well, there's someone that is friends with that Dylan Mulvaney. Because they used to work together on the Book of Mormon. They were like theatre kids together or something. And they just put out a TikTok video showing this old movie.And it also had Ronald Reagan and where all the men dressed up like women and this was to raise money, for the for the military and, because of this old movie that this guy found he says What Dylan's doing and what the navy is doing is all right because look there's even a child in the audience and I'm like, No, no, no, no, no That was different because all those men that put on a woman's dress.And did some camp Okay They all went home to their wives, if they didn't get blown up in the war.Okay, it's a big difference. Okay, everyone knew it was just a play acting. Remember, you want to go back even further? Shakespeare, plays that were performed way, way back in the day, all the performers had to be male. And the men played the women's roles.Okay, so there's a talk this drag thing that you're doing the hyper sexualized. Yes. Oh, oh, all right. That's not what that old movie did. It was a bunch of men dressed up in these hokey lady, old lady dresses. Okay, and Milton Berle, that was part of his his shtick was, dressing up as an ugly old woman, okay? There's the comedy part and then there's this over-sexualized nonsense that's being pushed.So don't show me an old movie with Ronald Reagan of a bunch of our military guys dressed up as women and compare it to the nonsense that's being portrayed now, this hyper sexualization these guys you know, doing splits and big rubber boobies with nipples in the kids faces, Yeah, okay the heavy makeup.You know these drag is an art drag is a nightclub thing It's just like going to see a stripper in a pole dancing thing.That was drag.And now you got these really low budget drag performers going to kids' schools.And a lot of them have been arrested for kiddie porn.They've got their junk hanging out, their costumes are low, low budget.You got professional drag performers saying, stop this nonsense.It's embarrassing. We don't stand for this. We don't go to kids. I will. Who is it? Jesse Waters had a drag performer on his show and said that this is horrible. I don't stand for this. When I go out to the club. I don't want kids crying in the background. I want to have my mimosa and see a show. And that's my thing. But now the I don't know what is it with the kids. And you know, there's something really, and I don't want to say evil, because, you know, I hate to think that everyone's evil. But there's an evil agenda going on with this, a very evil agenda and it's towards the kids.And they started off, you know how you start with soft porn and then you get addicted and it has to get harder and harder to get more clicks or get more outrage.They're using it as a tool to get an outrage mob going on both sides, for and against.We still haven't seen the manifesto of the trans murderer.None of those family members were invited to the White House but the three insurrectionists were.And I thought it was also very funny. One of the insurrectionists, the guy with the bullhorn was out in front of the correspondence dinner, in a tuxedo with the bullhorn yelling at the people coming in, the reporters for climate change and get rid of big oil. Here's all the people that stuck up for this little maggot, and he's yelling with the bull horn in their face.
Wow. Wow. Karli, I'll bring us into a close. As I said at the beginning, I feel bad taking out of your time on posting non-stop.Great having you on. Thank you so much for giving us your time.Well, this afternoon with you, this evening with us.
 
Oh, this is wonderful.I was just, I couldn't believe you invited me because I'm such a goofball.And I always see, I always watch your videos and you have very serious people on.I'm like, what the hell does he want me on for? I am like goofy and you know, my eyes are wacky.And you know, I just make memes and stuff.This was wonderful. I hope everyone enjoyed my goofiness and listen, enjoy the rest of your celebration over there. I pray for you and I pray for your country just as hard as I pray for mine right now.
 
They both need prayer. They really do. They really do. No, but I love your memes. Absolutely love them. And that's where we win this battle using the power of media and memes using humour. That's how you get people and that's how you connect to people. So thank you for what you do. And Midnight Rider channel, love it on Telegram. So thank you.Let me finish off with our viewers. Thank you for tuning in wherever you are, however you're watching. Great to have you with us. Obviously, if you didn't know Karli before, all the links are on the screen there, on GETTR, on Truth, on Twitter, and @RealKarliBonne on Telegram, so make sure and follow her. Or if you're listening on the go after, thank you for joining us. So I wish you all a wonderful rest of your weekend, and we'll be back with you on Monday with Tom Fitton from Judicial Watch.
 
Oh he's my favourite!
 
He's so good, I met him when I was over a couple, well, just CPAC and them before. And I love what Judicial Watch do, just the power of using those freedom of information on the government. So he'll be with us on Monday.
 
He's another patriot that he doesn't stop. He doesn't stop. Like, I don't know when he finds the time to lift weights and keep up that Superman bod with all the work that he does. You know, I get the newsletter.25 years, 25 years he's been president of Judicial Watch and it's a phenomenal organization.So yeah, he'll be with us on Monday.So on that, I wish our viewers a wonderful rest of your weekend and we'll be with you on Monday.Thank you for joining us and goodbye.

Darren Denslow - Local Elections 2023: The Rise of the Independent Candidates

Voting is upon some of us once again in England with Local Elections happening across the country with some 8000 seats up for grabs. Darren Denslow joins us as someone who is vying for one of those seats, many will know him from Twitter as Wolsned or Darren of Plymouth and he is standing for election in his home city of Plymouth. Most candidates stand for one of the main political parties but Darren chose to be an independent.Why did he discount the parties? How has he campaigned as an independent? Is there a way of reversing voter apathy?Tune in this episode to hear Darren's experiences and why he thinks you should get out there and vote.Darren Denslow is a chemist, science teacher, ex military finance/procurement specialist turned political commentator, free speech advocate, radio host and runs two of the best 'Truth Speaking' Twitter accounts to come out of the UK, @DarrenPlymouth and @wolsned. Darren has lived in Plymouth all his life and truly loves his city and that is why he is running as an independent councillor in St. Peters & The Waterfront to represent the wishes of local people on local issues.Follow and support Darren ....WEBSITE: https://www.darrenofplymouth.com/RADIO: https://tntradio.live/PODCAST: https://tntradiolive.podbean.com/category/darren-denslowTWITTER: https://twitter.com/wolsned?s=20GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/darrenplymouthInterview recorded 2.5.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/Audio Podcast version available on Podbean and all major podcast directories... ⁣https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/connect/Please subscribe, like and share!
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(Hearts of Oak)
Hello Hearts of Oak and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Darren Denslow or Darren of Plymouth as most of you will know him from his social media profile.And you can also catch Darren on TNT radio every Sunday afternoon but the reason I asked him on today was local politics. He is standing as an independent candidate in the local elections and as this goes out on Thursday today will be election day so you can make a decision to vote for candidates. So Darren joins us to explain why he's standing as a local candidate, why he discounted the other parties, what pushed him into that role. He stood before, so we talk about his previous experiences, and why local elections is so important. People often think of Westminster, central government as the place where it happens, but actually the importance and many of the issues are sorted out and dealt with at local level. So why is that important? Why should you vote if you're in the UK? And talk about apathy. I mean, there are massive voter apathy across the UK and it's just getting worse and worse. And Darren brings his passion, his energy, his enthusiasm for dealing with local issues. I would really inspire anyone to vote and to get someone in who cares about their local issues. So as you watch this, local elections will be on today in many parts of England. 8,000 seats are up for grabs, so do make a decision on voting if you haven't done already. But over to Darren to explain his experiences and why you should vote.Darren Denslow, or Darren of Plymouth as I would know you. Darren, thank you so much for being with us today.
 
(Darren Denslow)
My pleasure, mate. My pleasure. Glad to be on here. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to talk to you.
 
Great to have you with us. Now to follow your Twitter profile, and they're @Wolsned. People can follow you there and of course they can watch you on tntradio.live.You're on the Sunday afternoon slot, I believe, 1 to 3 UK time or 8 to 10 am eastern time for our US viewers on the east coast. And I saw, I think the last two weeks, well you've hadDan and Stan, Voice of Wales, who I know well and we've had on numerous times. Also James Harvey, Voice of Wales, Unity News Network, Students Against Tyranny. I think we had him last week hearing about his background as a student.
 
Good lad, he is.
 
Very good.And of course you're the independent candidate for St Peter and the Waterfront Ward in Plymouth, and we'll delve into that a little bit deeper. But first Darren, can I ask you to introduce yourself before we get into elections and all that stuff?
 
Yeah sure, my name's Darren Denslow, I was known as you said as Darren of Plymouth on Twitter. I still actually have that Twitter account, Elon has graciously given it back to me, but they give it back to me in a mangled reck, It doesn't really work very well. So you can find me on Twitter @Wolsned. I am a chemist.A science teacher by training. I spent 15 years working in finance and in the dockyard.Prior to that, I was cancelled as a teacher because of the trans issue. And I now, after speaking out for sort of three years throughout the pandemic and through the Brexit period, I now work as a, someone called me a news anchor the other day, which was, which was quite nice, but I do news reporting during the week on TNT radio. And as you said, I have my own show 1pm to 3pm UK time on a Sunday. But I'm also for my sins, standing in my second local election.I stood in 2021 in a different ward in Beverall in Plymouth. But that was really just me just spending a bit of money to try and poll the local population to find out who would vote independent and who didn't believe in the Covid narrative. This year I'm standing in theSt. Peter and Waterfront ward is probably one of the most historicparts of England, let alone Plymouth. And so I'm quite honoured to have the Barbican and the waterfront as somewhere that I might potentially come Thursday represent. So I'm standing as an independent candidate. The reason I'm standing as an independent candidate in Plymouth.The trigger was the destruction of the trees and the Plymouth tree massacre. No, I'm not a greenie, I'm not a tree hugger or an environmentalist or a climate change activist. I was really unhappy that the public's wishes were not represented by the people in the local council, the Conservatives, Labour and the Green Party all had an opportunity to prevent the cutting down of over 110 mature trees in the centre of Plymouth. They either abstained or voted for, even though a petition of 16,000 said don't do it. And so I decided, you know, there's no democracy here in Plymouth. In fact, there's no democracy left in the UK after the last three years. And so that is why I am standing. And I probably shouldn't say I haven't got a hope in hell, because people go, I ain't going to waste my vote on that geezer then, but you know I'm standing because if I didn't stand I'd be kicking myself for the rest of the year because I'll let those gits in power get away with it without at least doing something and I hope this year not only do people vote for me.But people up and down the country vote for independent candidates. So that's just a little bit about me Peter.
 
Okay I think there are what 8,000 seats is it? Something like that, up for grabs and of course we'll not even get into the complications of UK. I don't have any where I am here in London. All different parts of the country are different, so I'd encourage our viewers. This will go out on Thursday. We're doing this two days before, so it'll go out on Thursday, on election day. So if you're watching this live at eight o'clock on Thursday, you've got, what, two hours to go and go and cast your votes. Exactly, it is important, although I'm moving away towards the more apathy side, but we'll get into some of that. So you've stood before, you're standing again. Standing the first time it didn'tput you off standing. Why did you stand for the first time? Because a lot of people, I'm curious to know why they put their names forward for the first time. And I haven't been involved in local elections. I mean, 2019 was when I was overseeing the campaign with UKIP for European and locals.But I'm always curious to know why someone puts their name forward. If it's as an MP, it's glory, fame, I guess, although I would debate that, but locals is different. So why did you start originally as a local candidate?
 
In 2021, I mean, I sort of work and move, you know, I keep myself to myself generally, but in a sort of my social world, my connections within the city, I sort of loosely operate amongst political people. And my friend Danny Bamping in 2021 said, look, there's a seat, there's no one standing as an independent in Beverall, do you want to stand? This was at the I wouldn't say the height of the pandemic, but we had had 12 months of the pandemic.Everyone was running around in masks. The vaccine campaign had just started, that we were still in some sort of lockdown in my city and right across the UK. People had still lost their minds. I was getting incredibly worried about what was coming down the line in the future. Plus I'm a teacher by training. I saw what was going on in schools, schools have been shut down, kids have been put in masks, they were talking about vaccinating them, or the rumours were that they were going to go back on Matt Hancock's word, and we also have a god-awful, I mean the worst local authority you can imagine at a time it was run by Labour, and we've got like the wokest of the woke in terms of Labour councillors and Labour candidates here, and so I thought I'm going to put my name down because, you know, I've got to do something.And at the time it was all about COVID. I've got to do something. And I really felt that just screaming and shouting on Twitter doesn't achieve anything. So that's why I stood.And I actually caused chaos and Labour diverted almost all of their attention and financial resources to the Pevrel Ward because Darren of Plymouth had a big Twitter account with 40,000 followers and I was making a lot of noise online so it was really good for the lols but the reality is having a big twitter presence doesn't translate into votes and I got five percent of the votes then, I have no idea what's going to happen now but I will say this Peter and I'll try and be careful of my language. People are more pissed off nowthan they were in 2021, when you were locked down in a mask and being jabbed up to your eyeballs, which is quite interesting. And it's 15 minute cities. And it's the nonsense of the Conservative Party that have really, really upset people. And they're not necessarily going, I'm going to vote for red, I'm not going to vote the other way, because they look at the alternative, which is Labour and Keir Starmer. And the goons that we've got as candidates, Labour candidates here, you know, with their green hair and still wearing masks, there is a good opportunity for other parties and independent candidates to come through, even if it's just on a protest vote.So, I'm keeping my fingers crossed. I'm going to do better than the 5% I got last time, even though I'm standing in a different ward.Obviously, you've looked at the other parties and made a decision that actually none of them are any good and of course there are alternative views for the other parties, although they're becoming more reduced. But obviously if you're getting involved in politics the first thought is you know I should get involved in one of the political parties and get to know the local community, get to know the local association and then put myself forward. That's kind of the traditional process in the UK. We traditionally have not done independence, well we do more locals but it's still not the norm really. But you've obviously discounted other parties and decided to do it as an independent. How did you assess that when you looked at the other parties?How did you kind of make that assessment that none of them? and give me your thoughts.I really do want to hear them.
I never considered for one second ever being part of the Conservatives or the Labour Party.And since Brexit it's been quite obvious to anyone who's paying even the slightest bit of attention to what's going on in the political environment that neither Labour or the Conservatives represent you. People go and vote, they're going to vote blue, going to vote red, and you know, and that's what people do. But then you're voting for a party to make decisions, not for an individual who might live in your community, care about the place, care about that. So for me, Plymouth is my home. I'm Darren of Plymouth, for God's sake. It's literally in my my little nickname, moniker. I spend most of my time in St. Peter on the waterfront. It's an absolutely beautiful area of the city that's just been trashed because of the the trees that have been cut down and because of their attack on statues you know Sir Francis Drake and Sir John Hawking's name has been taken down as a street name because he's a racist colonialist you know, the parties don't care about that they're following instructions from higher up they're following down here in Plymouth they're taking instructions from London in London they're taking instructions from the World Economic Forum or the UN or the WHO or whoever. Yeah, they don't represent you.But trying to break that cycle of behaviour, voting behaviour in the public is incredibly difficult. And I'll give you a good example. In 2021, I was up on the Ho, which is, you know, very famous part of Plymouth, it's beautiful, sea views and there was some elderly ladies there.And they had just voted in the local election. It was the voting day on Thursday, 2021.You know, two years ago today. And I was explaining to them, with the other independent candidates, how it, exactly what I was saying, if you want change, don't vote for Conservatives, don't vote for Labour, because it's just a continuation of what you've already had.And that's bloody obvious. And they agreed, they agreed with everything I was saying. And I was like, who did you vote for then? Oh, we always vote Conservative. And this literally happened.And I'm just standing there, jaw on the floor that you've just agreed with everything I said about why you should vote for independent candidates or some small parties that are trying to fracture or move away from the mainstream political system and you've just gone and voted blue and red.And the reason people do that is because we've been indoctrinated all our lives. You're conservative.You're Labour, your right, your left, and people just vote in accordance with this behaviour that's sort of been implanted in us right from schooling until adulthood. And it's very, very difficult to break that train of thinking. I'm hopeful this year, but at the same time, I know that when people turn up at the ballot, they might be walking all the way up to the ballot box, I'm going to vote independent, I'm going to vote for this person and when they get there they go wasted vote and vote Conservative or Labour. And if that happens again here, just as it might happen in the general election which is likely to follow on from the locals, then we're just going to be stuck in the same shit show that we have been in for the last 3, 6, 10, 20 years, go back as far as you like. Nothing will change until we get Conservatives and get Labour out of government, especially local government, yeah, because that will then filter up through to London and we might be able to, you know, enact some real changes. Maybe if we did that right across the country, there wouldn't be any more 15-minute city talk.I'm assuming that when you mentioned at the beginning about the, was the trans issue in schools and your vocal on that, so that comes from a more common sense, socially conservative, you look at around and concern of how things are changing for the worse and how things that were truth, that were normality are suddenly turned on their head.But then that would probably make you look at some of the other smaller parties and I'm wondering why you didn't look at them, who maybe have traditionally been more on the right, traditionally been more, well, we need to conserve what we have as our culture.That's been the general understanding and view of them that maybe hasn't necessarily transcribed out.But why did you discount them?Because I would still be taking direction from somebody. I'm an independent person, I'm an individual, I'm a free thinker, and the only interest I have, if I was to be successful in this election, is to represent the wishes of the people who live in that ward.And a lot of them may not be conservative. A lot of them won't necessarily be, you know, left-leaning.I already know a load of them are very, very, very woke and are obviously not going to vote for me, but I need to be my own person and I considered the Heritage Party. I've spoken with Dave Kurten in particular, I've had him on my show on TNT, lovely bloke, also a fellow chemist and we had a lot in common, but I would still be representing not the people, there would be that extra chain, there would be that like um a go between between me and the people of Plymouth. I would have to go through the heritage party or we'd have to go through UKIP or I mean there is a reform candidate, Reform did contact me and I said I'm not representing any party I'm independent and the thing about democracy especially at local levels it should be independent people who are sitting in our chambers here, you know every seat should be somebody from this city, especially you know hopefully they live in that ward as well and that they they have an interest and skin in the game in the city and I think a lot of our councillors either in Plymouth and elsewhere across the country don't have that. They're conservative first, they're Reform first, whatever, then they're the representatives of the people. I'm just going to be a representative of the people if I win.
 
Tell me, you talked about the conversations you have with people, I remember the conversation I had that really hit me, it was ages ago, probably about 15 years ago in the Church I go to in London, big, big black majority Church, and having the conversations with the congregation members as it came up to the election, I would list some policies and they would say, awful, awful, awful.And I said, well, those are Labour policies. They'd say, yeah, but we will probably vote Labour.We always vote Labour.
And it's that, as you said, that weird gulf between people's views and how they've been tribalized and forced into voting all their lives.And people would have told me, well, you know, my parents voted for Labour.Or it could be flip side. My parents voted for Conservative, therefore I do.And I said, well, have you thought about it? Looked at the policies?No, it's just show me the red or show me the blue and I'll tick.Um so yeah it's a similar.
 
They don't even look at the candidate. They don't even look at the candidate. In 2021 I stood against a conservative guy called John Mahoney. Yeah I actually had an argument with him. He said to me, he's a doctor yeah, he said to me I will wait five years to find out if there's any uh adverse events or side effects from the vaccine and I was like, you're a doctor mate yeah he won yeah he didn't campaign he literally for a few days just before the election, just went around and chucked a few leaflets about, people turned up and just went, blue. They don't even know who he is, blue.Yeah? Out all red, you know? That's what people do. And so they don't even look into who they're voting for, they just turn up at the ballot box if they're a voter and vote red or blue. And, you know, the problem with politics is inherent in what I just said there, i.e. our country and, the world is run by the people who turn up. And usually the people who turn up aren't the sort of people who should be running the world. And you know, how do we get people out to vote? Imagine if there was 100% turnout. Yeah, I'm pretty sure Conservative and Labour wouldn't be winning all the time.
 
Yeah, no, you're right. I mean, you look at the vote share and how they get in is bonkers. I think that people misunderstand the power of what happens at the local level.People see Westminster as the place where politics happens, where true decisions are made, but you stand as local candidate, you have seen and you understand the reality that actually decisions are made at the local level. If Westminster doesn't sit for two months, three months, the country carries on. Actually, when a local council doesn't sit for whatever reason, suddenly there are issues with schools, there are issues with bins, there are issues with local services, And that's it's, at the local level that the country actually works.
Yeah, that's right. I mean, you know, I bought at the same in the same breath.You know, we're talking about the trees because that is a look.It's even made the newspaper again today.It was a massive national story and scandal, that tree, the decision to support the felling of those trees, although it didn't directly, to my knowledge, come from London.London did say, here's a pot of money.Do you want that money?Cut down the trees. Yeah. If you don't cut down the trees and begin this project, we take that pot of money away.And that is how the local authorities are influenced. So even though decision-making is made down, made at the local level, it's still in accordance with the wishes of their party at London, and government, doesn't matter who's in power, they're the ones who control the purse strings.And that, you know, that's the cycle of political influence and decision making that needs to be broken.There is a council in the UK, as far as I understand, and I didn't Google or check this before I come on, Frome, that's wholly independent.And if you go to that council, and you go to Frome's, as I say, not to the council, but if you go to the Frome, it's beautiful!And it's great. All the services are provided, there's no in-fighting like we have here in Plymouth where we've had the last four years all they've done is fight against each other and not actually achieve anything because it's just you know if red says that it's left.Then blue goes oh I'm going right. There's no cooperation between the parties in my city at the local level, there's no saying oh this is going to be in the interest of all the people and Plymouth, so let's work together on that, they will just fight each other no matter what the decision is that needs to be made. And so, yeah, all the action happens at local level and I will also say this, the corruption is off the scale at the local level. It isn't until you sort of dip your toes into local politics do you realize the level of corruption and the underhanded dirty tactics that will be employed particularly by the established political parties in order to get rid of any opposition. I am now the most racist person in Plymouth and it's been banded all around social media. I mean I think it's a badge of honour. When I asked why am I the most racist person in Plymouth, they didn't have an answer. They couldn't even tell me. But the mud sticks unfortunately.
 
Well it does. The issue of the trees issue is intriguing. I remember reading about it, I remember reading that the leader of the Conservative Council then stepped down over it.And it's amazing how you do see pockets of this happening, not enough at all, we need to learn from the French, the one thing we need to learn from the French maybe, is that resistance, that pushback, that standing up for what you believe in your area, in your community. And it was heartening to see that pushback from the local community which forced the Conservative leader out.And I guess that's what you want to see more of, you want to see local people standing up for local issues.
 
Yeah of course, you know, and again it should be local people. I mean that tree, the tree massacre, the great Plymouth tree massacre, is a really good sort of distillation to use a chemo chemistry term distillation of the problem yeah, the council were like we need to get rid of these trees so we can begin this project so we can get that pot of money from central government and that money will then be continuous throughout the next 12 months of our budget so that was their thinking, then the public went here 16 000 signatures said don't cut down the trees. And so the leaderunder some influence from the sitting establishment of Plymouth City Council, the people who are there permanently, and that's another issue, you know, the employees or thepublic sector workers, that's a separate issue because they don't get voted in, under pressure from them because they want the money for the business that is Plymouth City Council, wrote an executive decision. I don't know what Richard Bingley was thinking at the time, And a little bit on Richard Bingley, and I'm sorry I'll jump around, he's ex-Labour, ex-UKIP, he started Save Our Statues, yeah, but he wants to rename Sir John Hawking Square, Zelensky Square. Can you believe it? I mean I really am going to f***ing blind in a minute just thinking about it. And then he become Conservative, I think he was also an Independent, he might have even been a Green at some point. So these are the sort of people that put themselves forward to be in positions of power. They're only interested in the position and they're only interested in the power. They're not interested in representing the people. Anyway he wrote an executive order two hours later they cut the trees down under the cover of darkness and yeah the public are super, even now, super, super unhappy about what happened. The trees are still all there.I haven't walked through the city centre today, they're about to be removed but there's some squabbling going on. But we don't live in a democracy, Peter, and nationally we don't live in a democracy. And I find it very, very concerning for the future because I suspect that thatsemblance, the illusion of democracy that we've always lived under, even that is now dead. So I think these local elections, from my perspective, is my last opportunity really to stand up, be counted, see if I can win, make a difference, and with a group of other independent candidates to see if we can get in and have a voting bloc in Plymouth because there won't be any more local elections for another two years because of the GE. And if you're a conspiracy theorist like me, you know, these elections could well sort of run down and be a thing of the past as the globalists get their way and remove sovereignty from countries. And the rumour is, after these local elections, because the Tories are going to get absolutely wiped out, I suspect, in these 8,000 seats that are up, there is going to be a GE announced probably straight after the local elections, and this country is going to go into proper crazy town for for a few months and we're going to end up with a Labour government.So you know it's it's it's, if you're worried about a Labour government then you'll know what I mean when I say it's quite scary the prospect of what can happen to the UK in the next 12 to 18 months.You know it is and I've also seen those stories of that election general election being called soon after and I think that's how it will go. Let me ask, I'll not jump in on the Richard Bingley because I know Richard from my UKIP days but I scratched my head on that decision so I'll leave it at that but can I ask you about apathy, voter apathy, apathy of individuals. You talk to people and we talk about how people were tribal but also you have the apathy involved and just where there's no desire, no engagement. A lot of that is the fault of the system for not engaging with the voter and expecting them to do their juty and tick that box whenever the alarm bell goes, whenever the bell goes immediately you must jump up and you must respond and then shut up and keep quiet for the next four or five years. How do you kind of combat that?You obviously have stood, not as a party machine but independent and you talk to people, you engage with individuals about the political system, encouraging them to cast their vote for you.How is there a way past that apathy?Sorry for the for the dead air but I mean I'm shrugging my shoulders saying is all I know is that it exists. I don't know how to combat it. It's very difficult as an independent because you're on your own, you don't have a party machine behind you. You know, I've got help, I've had, I've been fortunate that I've had quite a few people volunteer to help me to go, around knocking doors and canvas. Every single person that I have spoken to, they've gone, I've got arm, you're interested in the elections, you can see their face, they're like, don't come near me, you're obviously a politician, I don't want nothing to do with you, look at the state the country and it takes me a little while to go, you know, oh I'm an independent candidate, I'm not, I'm financing myself, I'm not, I'm not part of a political party, but to then go, we need you to get out and vote.You can see that these people don't want to vote and the turnout typically on a local election by ward roughly is about 40 percent. So that means the people in Plymouth or wherever you might be in the country, 60 percent is a group of people that doesn't have a representative.They're being ruled over by the 40 percent or the 30 percent and sometimes turn out as low as 20 percent. And so, as I said before, we're ruled over by those that just turn up or those thatPut themselves down as a candidate for Labour or Conservative or whatever. And again, you know, I've got the ballot paper expecting to see quite a few independent candidates this year because people are pissed off. There isn't. Most wards don't even have an independent candidate.And what I'm getting from social media from around the country is that there aren't that many independent candidates standing. And so again we're just going to end up with red or blue and the same old nonsense going on and that just increases voter apathy, it increases disengagement in the political process and so people don't go out and vote because they think what's the point it's going to end up red or blue anyway. So I don't know what the answer is. I'll tell you what the political establishment don't want, 100% voter turnout. Maybe we could do something like Australia and just say it's mandatory. You must, or on pain of a smallish fine, go out and vote.And in Australia, I think it's $30 or $60 or whatever, about 30 pounds, if you don't go out and vote. So they have very, very high turnouts. And as long as somebody isn't ballot stuffing or or rigging the election will probably have very, very different results and we may end up with a lot more independent candidates in positions of power representing the people of their community.I know that voter turnout is going to be particularly low this year. I'm pretty certain.It'll either be extraordinarily high or extraordinarily low. It depends on how people react to how pissed off they are. In Plymouth, super pissed off. Every single person that I've spoke to.
I think people are blown away when you show them the numbers because you can get in as a local candidate for a thousand votes. It can be less than that depending on the makeup. And people are foolish enough and there are many people who are who think actually I voted Conservative, I'm going to change my vote, I'm going to vote Labour. And I think well voting for Sir Keir Stammer, but what's going to be the massive difference for voting for, Rishi Sunak, someone more wealthy than the Sovereign? It's not. You need to think outside that little box, and yet people are fixated on that. So people who choose to go one or the other.It's not going to make any difference. They're just going to get the same.
That it's a mono-party. The reds and the blues of the UK, the reds and the blues of USA. I suspect they use red and blue in Canada and Australia. You see there's a common thread here. And one's conservative and one's not so conservative, apparently, which we should say one's a socialist and ones even more socialist. And so, you know, I think, who gives the goodanalogy. I can't remember who it was, but it's basically the difference between Coke and Pepsi. That's what you've got to vote for. One's a little bit sweeter than the other, but the reality is you're getting the same drink. And if you vote Conservative or Labour, they're owned by the same people, the same lobbyists are going in and dealing with these politicians, whether at local level or national level, and the same decision making is going to be made. If anyone here who's listening right now thinks that voting for Labour in the local elections or in the general election that's coming up is going to make a sea change to the direction this country is coming in. I've got a bridge that you can buy off me. I've got a couple of bridges and one of them is Tamar Bridge. Good bridge that is. Yeah, you can buy that off me if you think that that's going to happen because it's not. In fact, voting in Labour is probably the worst. I would rather people stick with the Conservatives than vote in Labour because, you know, if you look at what happened during the Covid period, what did Labour want to do? They wanted to lock you down harder, jab you up more, stick you in masks more, shut down the schools more. They wanted all of that and it'll be the same in the future. It won't just be 15-minute cities, they're going to make it 10-minute cities or 5-minute cities. So that's what you get if you vote for Pepsi and, if you vote for Coke, you're just going to get the same. But people don't seem to realise that because they are dyed in the wool, red and blue, they can't think any other way.And their behaviour when they go to the ballot box is mechanical. And the other thing is, the other argument I get is, don't vote at all. Everybody should not vote and withdraw their power. And I don't know what to do about that argument either, because it's sort of correct in some ways, but they can't see the other side, i.e. if everybody turned out to vote, you might be able to enact some change.
 
Maybe it's just voting for independent, maybe it's just people going and actually disregarding the other parties and simply saying well I'm just going to put an x beside independent and do something completely different, and see if that changes things.Uh well it would, wouldn't it? It would. However there's another issue of voting independent, I'm making my candidacy sound weaker and weaker as I go along, is I don't have a powerful machine behind me and so let's just say I did get voted in at Plymouth and I've got 15 Labour councillors and 15 Conservative councillors, a couple of Greens who just got in because of the of the tree huggers and then there's me as an independent candidate. They don't care if I'm there or not, I make no difference and I've got no clout, I've got no financial resources, I've got no political influence or power behind me to make any decisions. If there were 15 independent councillors in Plymouth or you know in any local authority then we can really make a difference because they require our vote and as far as I'm concerned I'm lent a vote in the guise of old Ben. You lend me your vote and I do with that as you wish and if I don't then you take that vote away from me. That sort of aspect of democracy is gone with party politics.
 
Completely and I think people, I think the Conservatives' tagline should be vote Conservative slightly better than Labour, absolutely just their margins, it's not going to be any massive change. But obviously if you get voted in it is a position, it's possibly less about the absolute power that you will wield but it is about that platform that you are afforded as an elected official and you can use that platform to speak good. So that I think is the benefit of local independent candidates winning the seats and using that position.Of course it is. I want to be able to speak out. I'm not interested in gaining power.Like you said, a platform. I want that platform so that I can be heard and so that I can speak out on the issues that affect my city and actually affect us nationally and globally.When you think about things like 15-minute cities, which are coming down the line, which is actually really interesting Peter, because a lot of people that I've spoken to and a lot of messages that I've received have all been about 15-minute cities. So for those of you that are listening, if you don't want 15-minute cities and you've got two hours left to go out and vote, go vote for your independent councillor, because he's probably standing for that one of those for that particular reason, he's he's not aware of all the other conspiracies, but he is aware of the 15 minute cities. And it's like a gateway conspiracy. 15 minute cities is a way of getting in. And you can work backwards from the 15 minute cities to some of the other stuff that people have dismissed, because the BBC have told them not to listen to it. So I would be using that platform to speak out on those issues and it's why the trees were cut down.
Yeah and and the gap between conspiracy and reality, actually when you look at 15 Minute Cities that is extremely short and that's I think why it's worried people because it is right here at our doorstep in cities all across the UK.Can I just, the last 10 minutes or so, can I ask you about kind of you getting the, voice out on a range of issues, and obviously one of those is TNT radio, and it intrigues me.It's something that I hadn't come across until maybe a couple of months ago.Fantastic range of individuals on so many programs. I mean, tell us about that and how that gets your message out. And why should people tune in and listen to your wisdom on a Sunday?Oh, definitely. You definitely want to be listening to my wisdom, or should I say my guest's wisdom? I'm not that wise. I just sit there and let them talk and do the heavy lifting.Yeah, TNT is a very interesting setup. I started working with them as a regular guest, just over 12 months ago, beginning of 2022. By the summer, I was doing bit part work for them By September, I was a full-time employee.As I said, I come in and do news segments for 10 minutes throughout the day, and then I have my own show at weekends. There are other great shows.Got Locked and Loaded with Rick Munn, really, really good show.Patrick Henningsen is on at 5 PM, I believe, weekdays for a couple of hours.We've got James Freeman.Katie Hopkins has now joined us, so she's on at nine o'clock every morning.So we have, it has gradually grown and our only brief really is that we must do everything we can to try and tell nothing but the truth regardless of it's how controversial it is, regardless of how opposed it is to mainstream narratives, to what the BBC is saying, to what Sky is saying, CNN and so on. So that's our only brief and just to get put that into some sort of context, I said, um... I said in one of my news reports, at TNT we try to tell what we believe is the truth.I got an email for saying that and I got my ass reamed because it's like, nah, you tell the truth, not what you believe to be the truth, not your truth, you tell the truth. And we have tried to do that on a variety of issues ranging from Ukraine war, which I speak about quite regularly, or the Ukraine conflict, COVID, 15-minute cities as we've already brought up, all the conspiracies, all the stuff that you're being told isn't true, pay no attention, look over here at the nice little pink fluffy bunny rabbit, don't look over here at the 15-minute city stuff.We're trying to get that out and our station is gradually growing. We've had about 4 million, 5 million downloads in the last 12 months, which is pretty good for the first year.There's quite a lot of money being thrown at the station as well to make it successful.And I hope it continues in the same vein. And I manage to stay working for them because I'm overjoyed that after literally studying conspiracies for 20 odd years, I now get to talk about them. And they've all come true, Peter, which is the scary part. They've all actually come true. That wasn't meant to happen. It used to be a fantasy world that I lived in.They do. And I'm glad that we don't have to listen to your truth. I'm glad we can listen to the truth, so which is something more than that could be the same thing. But obviously you don't have the issue, that many of our viewers saw what happened to Mark Steyn on GB News removed because simply he was highlighting those who've been vaccine injured. TNT Radio was different, you have that freedom to talk, is that correct?
 
Yeah, we're not got any oversight by Ofcom in the UK at the moment. We are internet based. We're broadcast out of Brisbane in Australia. We are global. We are a group of people dotted all over the world. I speak to George Eliasson every night.He's in every afternoon. He's in the Donbass there. So we've got some people situated everywhere. We've got people in Japan. We've got people in South America, people in Europe, Australia, USA, so on. And we're just a group of people basically in a room like I am, like you can see in my front room, and we are broadcast over the internet. However, that might change with this online harms bill that's being put through, and they want Ofcom to have oversight of internet-based communications. And if so, TNT may fall underneath that. And if that's the case, then obviously you're you're going to have to fear for the UK broadcast of TNT Radio because Ofcom would slash it within 24 hours if they could, I'm sure.Yeah, well, that is really frightening seeing what's happened in Ireland is also, I think, a precursor to what we are facing. And just to say people can obviously they can call in and they can participate. Is that correct?
 
Yeah, we have call in shows. So nine o'clock and ten o'clock shows with Katie, Rick and Natalie Chill. You are able to call in every morning, have your say, you can call in and discuss, you know, over what they're talking about, or you'd probably be quite happy just to listen to you come in with a new topic and ask for a discussion on just about anything that's in the current news cycle.
 
Oh that's well, I think people would enjoy their morning to give a call in and you can give Katie your wisdom, there's no bigger firecracker than Katie Hopkins, we've had on before and I've got to know over the years. Darren, thank you for your time today. It's great to hear about what you're doing, standing in the locals. Again, we'll leave our viewers and listeners with the encouragement that if they haven't voted, as they'll be listening to this on Thursday evening, do get out and get to your local polling booth and cast your vote. And if you're not sure who to vote, then pick an independent.As Darren said. And thank you, Darren, for sharing what you're doing on TNT Radio. Love listening to it. And what a wide range of individuals that are on there. So thank you.
I have to get you on. I have to get you on my Sunday show, Peter.
So I'm yours whenever.
 
I will send you a message after that. And we'll book a date.
Sounds good. But to our viewers and our listeners, do make sure and go out and vote. Thank you for tuning in. I will be back with you shortly. So thank you and goodbye.
 
Cheers.

Tina Ramirez - The Road to State Senate: CRT, Crime and Election Integrity

Tina Ramirez has championed religious freedom and human rights all over the world for her whole working life. She now brings that experience, knowledge and passion to the US political scene by standing for The State Senate in Virginia. She has extensive political experience from her role as a foreign policy advisor for numerous Members of Congress. Her boldness in speaking up on issues such as Critical Race Theory, even when she was advised that it was too contentious shows desire to speak truth irrespective of the consequences. This is one lady who truly believes what she stands for so join us this episode to be inspired as you listen to Tina as she shares how she will make a difference in the Virginia Senate.Whether crafting legislation, securing the release of imprisoned victims, or engaging foreign dignitaries, Tina Ramirez has worked diligently to bring greater freedom and dignity to people around the world. From her early days as a high school teacher, through recent years in charge of an international non-profit organization, she has committed her entire life to service and to the preservation of human rights for all people.While working for the U.S. Commission on International Religious Freedom, she developed policies to improve religious freedom in several countries. As a Foreign Policy Advisor for numerous members of Congress, she helped start and direct the bi-partisan Congressional International Religious Freedom Caucus.In 2013, she used her experience to create Hardwired Global, an organization that addresses the root causes of religious conflict and works to defend the rights of the oppressed. She has since worked in more than 30 countries and trained hundreds of journalists, lawyers, religious leaders, and teachers. Tina’s work has provided a simple, inexpensive way to counter persecution and build respect for religious freedom globally that is working. She has testified before the U.S. Congress, the United Nations, and the African Union, and has published several articles and books related to her work on human rights and religious freedom.Tina was raised near her mother’s large, extended family in Powhatan County, Virginia where her father founded a medical practice and her mother ran a midwifery practice. Her parents, both second-generation descendants of Mexican and Czech immigrants and both Air Force Veterans, influenced Tina’s passion for service, freedom, and work with people worldwide. For Tina, Chesterfield is more than home: as the birthplace of religious freedom in America, it embodies her life-long work and calling. Tina now lives in Chesterfield with her daughter, Abigail.Follow and Support Tina...WEBSITE: https://tinaramirez.com/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/TinaRamirezVA?s=20FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/TinaRamirezVA/Hardwired Global...WEBSITE: https://www.hardwiredglobal.org/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/HardwiredOrg?s=20Interview recorded 26.4.23
 
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(Hearts of Oak)
Hello Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up with Tina Ramirez, who is a candidate for the Virginia Senate, the 12th district. I first met Tina last year when I was over stateside, and I followed her work on foreign policy, on religious engagement, regarding democracy in many other countries. I mean, she's worked all over the world in training individuals up to try and bring peace and stability to many countries.And she's bringing that experience to the U.S political environment, to the Senate there, the state Senate in Virginia.So we talk about a range of issues that she is passionate about.There's no end to that. But we only took four.Talk about CRT, critical race theory, why she's been so vocal on this.Years ago, I remember reading pieces of her discussing this.She's been warned off it. But no, she's this is vital to speak about this.So we talk about that and the impact on children in the education system in America.We talk about the economy, how there are so many issues with the economy and how the Democrats seem to be purposely wanting to destroy it.We talk about crime, homelessness, drugs and the mess that some of the cities are in America.So she talks about her passion on fixing that, on addressing some of those underlying issues.And then we end up with election integrity. and that's one of her issues on her website.You can click that and get the list, securing elections, making sure they're fair and free.And she talks about why this is such a vital area and what needs to be done to make sure that elections are free and fair for every US citizen.I know you'll enjoy listening to Tina. She has inspired me with her foreign policy work and maybe if you're stateside in Virginia, you'll even be able to vote for her.So here's Tina.Tina Ramirez, thank you so much for joining us today.
 
(Tina Ramirez)
Peter, thanks for having me. I'm super excited to be on your show.Oh, it's great, and I had the privilege of meeting you last year. We'll get into that.But for the viewers, you can find Tina @TinaRamirezVA. TinaRamirez.com is the website, the campaign website, and we're going to get into that.But Tina is the founder of Hardwired Global that addresses the root causes of religious conflict trains and equips local leaders around the world and the other part of her many talents that we will focus on today is that she is a senate candidate for Virginia's 12th district. Now Tina I said I had the privilege of spending time with you the end of last year and our US viewers may know you but for the sake of our UK viewers could you just take a moment or two and introduce yourself?
 
Absolutely. Thank you, Peter. So I, as Peter mentioned, I run an organization called Hardwired Global. We believe that everyone is hardwired to be free and we fight for religious freedom and the freedom of conscience around the world and helping governments and people that want to have freedom secure that freedom through laws and educational policies that promote their fundamental rights. And so I work all over the world, Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria, many countries that that are failing their people and where the people need to secure their freedom.But I also work in the United States to help secure freedom here as well.I train teachers across the United States to counter woke indoctrination and Marxist ideas and to ensure that people have really the constitutional freedoms here in America that we understand preserved and protected in future generations through education.The religious freedom is something I've built my life upon and I want it secured not just around the world, but I want it to remain protected here in America, and so I've fought throughout my life for that. I worked at the US Congress building a caucus on religious freedom and travel globally, Defending persecuted people and worked for the Becket fund which defended hobby lobby before the supreme court, 90 protecting the rights of conscience of businesses against being forced to provide abortifacient drugs So I have a long history and background, but right now I'm also running for the state senate in Virginia, And this is a critical election because as many of your viewers know the states are really the determiners of fair election laws and, What's going to happen moving forward in our country? And so I am running for a Senate seat That's pivotal to ensuring that we have the majority here in Virginia for the Republican Party to protect those conservative values.
 
Excellent. Thank you so much for that before we jump in if I can just play your I think your campaign ad, which I saw on your Twitter feed, just came out earlier this month, but let me play this 30-second for our viewers.
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Over 100 years ago, my great-grandparents came to this country legally, the right way, to pursue the American dream.My grandfather proudly served during World War II to protect American freedom, and it, was my grandfather's service that inspired me to found an organization that defends religious freedom in America and around the world.Today, do-nothing career politicians are failing to defend our conservative freedoms in Virginia.I'm Tina Ramirez. Like you, I've had enough.As your state senator, I'll be your conservative fighter.Now, there are a whole load of areas we could get into, but I think we'll just aim for maybe three or four issues.One of them is CRT, critical race theory. And I remember looking back and you'd written a piece saying critical race theory divides families and you're a mom with a biracial child.And that, I guess, brings a personal concern to this debate.Maybe you want to tell us why you've been so vocal against CRT.Yeah, thank you, Peter. Well, I'm a single mother as well. And so, you know, many people saw during COVID and the shutdown of our schools, how parents were becoming more and more aware of what was going on in the classroom because our kids were sitting in front of computer screens. And we were seeing first hand through Zoom classroom sessions that children were essentially being indoctrinated in a woke ideology that was rooted in Marxist theory.And this is critical race theory. And I've read all of the articles that they were promoting throughout Virginia in our school system on this, and they were very open about the fact that it was rooted in Marxist theory and Marxist ideology, and that they were set on overturning the white heterosexual male Christian establishment to elevate minority people, regardless of any kind of merit or justification just based on the colour of their skin and to suppress the other group really with justification for any violence needed to overthrow the other category of people.And I just, I saw, I started reading this and seeing it, seeing it in our schools.I had a local junior high school here where they showed a video of a young boy, a white male child apologizing for his whiteness, apologizing to females, apologizing for so many things that this young student had never been responsible for, but this was part of the indoctrination that was taking place in schools across Virginia.And that was just the tip of the iceberg. But I was very vocal about this a few years ago when it erupted.I was one of the first people running for office to expose what was going on and to speak out on the news about it.And I remember even other Republicans saying to me, don't talk about this. Don't touch it.It's, you know, it's not a good thing for you to do politically.And I just thought, are you kidding me? I'm a Hispanic mother of a biracial child.And yet, because of the colour of my skin, you want me to allow the public school system to teach herthat I am somehow oppressive and an oppressor and need to be violently overtaken within our country because of the colour of my skin, which is essentially what they were teaching.And they were dividing my family. And I wasn't going to have anything to do with that.So I did speak out vocally. I think it's a travesty here in Virginia that, this was happening, but it wasn't just happening here. It was happening all across the United States where it really comes out of, I think, a lot of what we saw with the Obama administration where he went on this apology tour around the world saying, I'm so sorry for America being so great, as though we should somehow apologize for our greatness and for the freedom that we've brought millions of people around the world, trillions of people.It's freedoms that I fought for around the world that we've been given the blessing of being able to fight for because of the freedom we have here.So to see those freedoms trampled on and then Marxist theory promoted in our classrooms, which I studied human rights as a conservative.I fought for human rights around the world for people that don't have it. And human rights is based in an idea of inherent human dignity and value. So to see that thrown out the window for Marxism, which we literally fought a world war against, to me, it was just unconscionable. And that's why I've spoken out so much against it.And there's so much more I can talk about, but I'm sure you've seen it too, Peter. And Virginia really was at the precipice of this fight here in America. And so we had to, as parents, as mothers, as citizens, we had to fight against this.Well, no, it's a big issue, obviously. It's not as big a concern here in the UK, and I live in London, which is a very mixed city, and you, friends, colleagues, neighbours from all over the world, every background, ethnicity, and my concern, certainly having two children as well, growing up here, is that this divides, is that this puts them and us and makes people see, makes children see their friends through the colour of their skin and not just as being a friend.
Right. Well, and Martin Luther King taught us to not judge people based on the colour of their skin, to see beyond that, to judge them on the value of their character. And this completely turned that thought out of its head, but it really was just the beginning. So under the Northam administration here in Virginia, a Democrat, the previous governor of Virginia. He started implementing policies where he was promoting this thing called the Critical Inquiry Initiative across Virginia. And so seven different school districts across Virginia or counties adopted critical race theory in the training of their teachers and in their school curriculum.And the small, very rural country town that I grew up in, Powhatan, right next to where I live right now, adopted this training program and was implementing these really racist ideas and Marxist ideas into their classroom.So we began to see children extremely confused, but also beginning to lack the ability to have critical thinking about differences of opinion and belief now I fought for religious freedom and the freedom of conscience around the world so my whole my whole life for the last 20 years of my career has been built upon, teaching people how to have verychallenging diverse opinions brought out into open form of a public debate in this marketplace of ideas and not to be afraid of different ideas but to allow them to flourish because that's where freedom and civil society and and civil discourse and and our freedoms really evolve is within that free public space of ideas, But they wanted to shut that down here in Virginia and then people that disagreed with them were being labelled hateful, racist, oppressors essentially and so, you know, that's not that's not what America is all about that's not what a civil discourse is all about. That's how you shut down freedom. That's how you force people to conform andthat's really the end of any kind of civil freedom in our society and so that's why we had to fight against it. But when we started to see what was happening, parents started speaking out in northern, Virginia I helped a woman who's actually, you know a Democrat not even a Republican but she essentially I think saw the light because she was in, she was an Indian woman whose son was going to one of the top schools here in Virginia it was a science and technology school andthe Northam administration wasn't just teaching critical race theory and, that being problematic in the school and as an Indian American she was then put in the category of an oppressor, which was insane. But because her socioeconomic class was higher than Hispanics and Blacks, they then began to put in place equity policies in the schools. And in her school in particular, which was a very advanced governor's school, like a charter school here in Virginia and we only have seven.The new policies would have promoted Blacks and Hispanics above other categories of, Virginians, so Indian Americans, Caucasian Americans, etc, even if they didn't excel on their on their scores to get into the school as well as the others did so they're basically going to promote people that without merit, Over people that had actually worked so hard to get into these schools like her son so she I helped her and she filed a lawsuit against the state of Virginia for basically a violation of the Civil Rights Code, in title 9 which which goes against any kind of inequalities and racism which is essentially what they were promoting my daughter obviously is black I'm Hispanic and so I don't think that we need them to lower the bar for us to get into a school I find that offensive, I find it offensive for my daughter and I think many people of diverse backgrounds find it offensive and you know Blacks and Hispanics shouldn't be promoted over Indians or Caucasians or vice versa in any way this is racism and that's what the Northam administration was promoting and then as we began to, unpackage not just that but everything else in Virginia we started seeing that they were promoting pornography in the schools and children's books that were promoting paedophilia even as low even into our elementary schools with kindergartners that could have viewed these images, and the democrats in charge here in Virginia were justifying all of this and saying that we as parents didn't have a right to challenge teachers or to challenge what was happening in the classroom and so I fought very hard over the last few years to promote school choice to promote freedom in our education to promote parents rights in our education because I don't think kids and any kids, not just my own, should be taught what to think. They should be taught how to think.They should be taught critical thinking. And it was all rooted back in this woke Marxist ideology that we've seen justrun rampant here in Virginia and cause so much chaos and confusion amongst our children.And so that's what we've been fighting here in Virginia.But I'm sure your viewers have seen this is not just a fight in Virginia.It's gone all across the United States where parents have woken up and seen what's going on in the classroom and they're fighting against it.
You know, I've seen many of those school board meetings and I wish we had those in the UK, but we don't. That's another story. But there's school board meetings of parents standing up and saying this is not acceptable.How does it fit in with elected officials? So the position of the Senate there.Can they then hold those schools to account, those school governors to account? How does it work?Because it has to be a partnership. It's the parents standing up in those school board meetings, but it's also the parents watching, listening, voting well, so that they get elected officials who can actually stop this happening across the schools.
 
Right. Well, so we've been very involved in helping to bring together those parent voices and organize and fight back. And so here in my area in Chesterfield County, we were able to organize a rally with over 200 parents overnight that just showed up and ensure that our board of supervisors then issued a vote to, or we put pressure on them, so they issued a vote to overturn critical race theory in our schools. And so at least here in Chesterfield County, we were somewhat protected, but there's so much more work that needs to be done. And then we helped over the last few years identify and support and get candidates to run for school board and the Board of Supervisors across Virginia to to help overturn these really bad decisions at the local level in our schools. And so that's been a critical area that I've been fighting over the last few years. And now obviously I'm running for state Senate. And in the Senate, a lot of these policies have been pushed at the administrative level from the, um, just by government bureaucrats in the Department of Education and elsewhere. And so our job is to hold them accountable and to reverse those policies.They have policies, for instance, on transgender,transgender policies in the schools that promote essentially that children can be indoctrinated in a lot of ideologies about their sexuality without parents knowing or having any say over what their, what the children are doing or being taught in schools.And so there's, there's so much ambiguity in the rules and the laws that the Northam Democratic administration previously had put in place that we have to reverse.But in Virginia, we won an election in 2021 with Governor Yunkin and the Lieutenant Governor and the Attorney General winning. So we have a Republican administration, we have a Republican House of Delegates, but we do not have a Republican Senate.And so over the last year and a half, they've been working extremely hard within the Republican Party to pass better laws and to reverse a lot of these bad policies in the schools, but they can't do it because everything gets blocked in the Senate.Essentially the democrats in the senate have said that there will be a brick wall against these policies that these conservative policies that governor Younkin and our republican majority want to pass and so, this election the reason it's so critical is that when we win this year and win my seat, which is one seat we have to flip and then another seat will need two seats to flip we will have the majority in the house in the senate we can start reversing, so much craziness that's been going on both in our schools, but also with our election system, and our ability to support the police and in so many other areas.So this election really is critical for that.And to make sure that we get back on track, you probably, some of your viewers probably saw a man whose daughter was raped in school and he protested at a school board meeting and then was dragged out and then labelled a terrorist by the Biden administration and literally had the FBI going after him to be a domestic terrorist because he was somehow disturbing the peace in the school board meeting.Well, he wasn't. What came out later was that his daughter had been raped.The school board tried to cover it up and he was protesting that and, he was, his voice was shut down. And so there's now a lawsuit out over this case I mean this father deserved his right to protect his child and in Virginia schools children aren't being protected and the rights of parents aren't being protected and there are a lot of laws and policies that have put in place under the Democrats that we need to reverse, protecting children from being raped in the schools, it was a transgender person that had gone into the bathroom and had raped his young daughter.These kinds of things have to stop.And so until we have people in office that can fight back against that and change or reverse these policies, our children aren't safe.And we, as parents, we're very concerned.
I think it's vital, again, just to repeat what you said about taking that majority and why exactly it's fallen along party lines so much, similar actually to the UK, across Europe as well, is another conversation.But it's good to know that parents, as they vote, they can actually make a difference.Because sometimes I think the public think possibly their vote isn't worth anything and things just happen as normal.But I think voting correctly and voting for you in the 12th district, And that puts someone in who will stand up for their values.Let me add there a couple of others. One, of course, is the economy, which affects every American, every Brit, every person, and it's the the cost of items.
And that's what really surprises people and affects people. And when you have to make those choices and we have sky high inflation, you have it there.Government spending like there is no tomorrow. How do you approach this issue as a candidate?
Yeah, Peter, every day I talk to people on the phone, at the doors, when I'm door knocking for the campaign, when I'm out about at the grocery store.Every day I meet people who are really struggling to just pay their bills.Yesterday I was at an antique store and a gentleman came in and was selling off two of his older electric guitars and I had a conversation with him and he said, look, before we never, my daughter never heard us talk about how we had to strap the belts up a little bit and and save money and struggling to pay for things.She never heard those conversations, you know, from 2016 to 2020, the economy is great under President Trump.And in the last couple of years, people like this, like this man have been selling things out of their home to just try to make ends meet and put food on the table to pay for gas.It's shocking that in a country where we have so much wealth and prosperity and we have so many opportunities that the average American is literally having to sell goods just to pay to put food on a table.They can't even afford gas to get to work sometimes because gas has gone so high.It's really hurting the American family. The tax policies are hurting the average American family who don't have places to hide it like big corporations or like, or who are not, or they're just, they're being overtaxed.I mean, our tax rate is at least 30% in middle America.And so a third of your income is going out the door, but when prices are twice as high or three times, four times as high as they used to be, you can't afford to live anymore.And I'm meeting people at every socioeconomic level now that are struggling to make ends meet and to do the just the normal things that they did with their families and so it's really heart-breaking to hear and it's even more heart-breaking then to see the not just the federal government but our local government here in Virginia.They had a surplus for several years during COVID, and they spent it.Did they think of saving for the future? Did they think of maybe things wouldn't be as, no, they just spend it.They spend it as though it's just going to be this constant stream that they can take from us and spend without recourse and responsibility. And the problem is Americans are hurting now.Virginians are hurting now.We don't have the resources that we had two to three years ago and our families are hurting and they need a relief.And when the governor tried to put forward a relief in the tax bill on cars and gas, the Democrats said, no, we're not gonna do it.And they voted against it. And so, two Democrats to the majority of Virginians voted against any kind of relief on our tax bill this past year.And this is hurting families. So we see inflation, but every day I'm hearing from people that they really, they can't make their food bills anymore because food is twice as expensive.I talked to farmers today, I talked to a farmer who was, he's in the middle of his wheat harvest, planting season.The cost of equipment just to plant has quadrupled. The cost of fertilizer has quadrupled.I have friends in the tire industry and auto industry. The cost of oil to do oil changes on cars has quadrupled.The cost of every commodity across the country has gone up two, three, four times.And they have to begin putting those costs back on customers.I talked to a restaurateur this week who said, Tina, we're just making ends meet.We can't continue to survive. I mean, restaurants were shut down during COVID.They are just trying to get out of it, but they can't afford to raise their cost four times as much for their customer, because then they'll lose all their customers, but they're bearing the cost and they can only survive for so much longer because reality is food is a lot more expensive now.These are just the everyday things that I'm hearing. And our government seems to have no clue that anyone's hurting and to just keep spending, as you said, like there's no tomorrow.And that's a major problem because it's not just, we're seeing that that's having an effect on the global situation with China and other countries trying to devalue the dollar and take greater control over other countries and resources globally, and put America and Western countries in a very, very difficult situation.And this is really a threat to democracy and human freedom everywhere in the world.And there's so many areas that I was surprised each time of being over the change in fuel costs filling up, but then I was really surprised going to supermarkets and seeing the price of food items. I thought we had it bad in the UK, but it seems to be much higher there.But again, when you look at the debate, I'm kind of confused. The Democrats don't seem to want to address it at all. And it's happening before your eyes. You drive past the fuel pumps and you can see the prices. You fill up your shopping basket, your shopping trolley, and you realize it's gone up by 10% than it was a month ago. Special offers are not there. And then on top of that, you've got the impact on the economy of, I guess, your southern border and what's happening there. But there's so many issues. And to me, and then on top of that, debt relief the different groups. And then when we mentioned CRT about payments to those who may be affected by slavery hundreds and hundreds of years ago, none of it has joined up thinking it seems to be the Democrats simply are just destroying, crashing the economy and Americans are just, basically cannon fodder. They're just in the middle, they're getting hit. And it's really strange when you look at it from the UK and you look at what's happening policy-wise and you think everything that's being done is just seemingly making the situation worse.
I think the thing that's most frustrating to me is I'm a single mother. I run a business. I have to balance my budget I have to make cuts to provide for my family and to ensure that I can take care of my daughter and I, have to make sure that my business has enough money going for the next year or two years, etc.Like I have to do this as an average American every American does but the government doesn't seem to think that they need to and when then when they talk about well we want to pay for the student loans of students that can't afford them, or we want to give out more handouts, or we want to let more people across the border to put a burden on our hospital and police system and everything else.They want to give everything away for free.They don't, and then they want to hurt the people in the middle like myself and most, average Americans that are the ones footing the bill.They have no concern for the average family that is struggling just to survive and take care of their family and do the right thing.I think that's what's so insane. I pay for my student loans.I am a single mother.I pay for my daughter. I take care of our family. I'm not looking for a handout.Why is it that the people that work hard, that pay their taxes, that take care of their families, that are running their businesses and creating wealth and opportunities for others are the ones suffering and struggling so that they can give things out to people that don't want to work, that want to come across the border illegally, that are not willing to go out and get a job, why is it that we're the ones being attacked?I am pro-family, I am pro-worker, I am pro-people, businesses that want to help the economy grow.Unfortunately, the Democratic Party has abandoned people that want to work and have merit.It goes back to the education conversation we just had. Under the Northam administration here in Virginia, we didn't know about this until just this year.It was exposed that for two to three years now.Schools were not allowing students that had been given merit awards for their excellence in education. They were they were, hiding their merit awards. They weren't telling the students about them, So they hid them because they thought that it was maybe racist or inequitable I don't know what their word was to tell students that over performed or that performed highly that they were given these merit awards, so these students who excelled were then entering into colleges and and not getting the scholarships or the advancement that they deserved, that they earned in college and paying for it themselves because the government said, well, it's inequitable.We want to lower the bar for you. We don't wanna give you a merit award.We've become a society where merit is being devalued. And as soon as that happens, you have an economy that's gonna crumble because who's gonna work in a system where hard work isn't valued anymore.The American society was built upon hard work and grit and opportunity.That's what people come here for. And so as soon as we lose that, what do we have as a society? And so I am absolutely fighting against these liberal woke policies that are destroying our country and the idea even that de Tocqueville talked about of the greatness of America.Tina, when you're talking there, it's the American dream that I'm thinking of.And of course that's been impacted massively by the financial hit, the economy hit, the debt burdens we talked about, but also it's crime is another way.I think when I went to LA for the first time back in April, I, it was the one city I felt unsafe in and looking at the homelessness, tent cities everywhere.Just actually on, yeah, in Europe we use trains, using the underground, the metro system, and there was a fight, bottles getting smashed, and it was just quite alien to me.And then seeing the drug issue, people lying on the pavements or the sidewalks and high on drugs.And it's I'm wondering, politicians seem to be oblivious to the the dangerous situation.And I'm wondering kind of how you see that. Virginia did seem to be safer, certainly I'd be there.But every state has their issues. And as that is happening in one area in the US, I guess it then spreads out and will affect other parts.So tell us about your kind of concern about crime and those issues which Americans face.Well, crime is one of my top concerns here in Virginia and across the United States.We see cities taken over by liberal policies to defund our police, really destroying the protection of the rule of law, which is really the most fundamental aspect of our society and what allows us to be free, is having a rule of law legal system, a system that people respect and, and live under, because when you don't have the rule of law, you have these, you know, banana republics, like what I work around in all over the world, you have failed democracies, failed States.When you don't have that rule of law, when you don't have institutions that people respect and protect.And sadly in America, you know, we've seen this for several years now, but especially in the last few years since COVID and the George Floyd riots, we've seen this defund the police movement, attacking our law enforcement professionals.I was endorsed by the Virginia Police Benevolent Association here in my race.And one of the reasons they endorsed me was because of my staunch defence of their right to have the resources that they need to provide a civil defence and the rule of law protection here in our community.We've seen that police have been defunded, that they have removed police resource officers in schools so that our schools are less safe.I mean, I don't know why they, you know, they're concerned about gun violence, but they wanna get rid of the school resource officers that actually protect the schools.It doesn't make any sense.Police are leaving the forces in droves in different cities, like in the city of Richmond, the capital of Virginia, the police are all leaving.They're coming to Chesterfield, where I live, because the police department here actuallywants to ensure that they have fair pay that they are that they have the support that they need and that's something that I want to continue expanding on but we see in cities across across the United States like Seattle, Portland you know, Los Angeles you name it and and even more in recent days. We've seen that these young youth groups are coordinating and are just doing flash mobs on on cities attacking businesses.And in Chicago and in New York, this is happening.And no one's doing anything about it. It's just, they're letting these young people run rampant and just attack the police, attack businesses.It happened even here in the city of Richmond during the George Floyd riots, even African-American businesses were attacked.They were indiscriminately just attacking businesses. There was no moral justification for what they were doing.It was really just violence gone rampant and there's no there's no protection And so if we if we defund the police, we're not gonna have the protection we need in our communities and that's what's happening another big thing that we see here in Virginia is, that Democrats don't only just want to fight the police and strip away their resources which the police have been fighting against and I'm supporting them in that effort but they've also been trying to strip the gun rights of gun owners. And so, Democrats when they were you know controlling all the houses of legislature and the administration tried to pass these red flag laws.And the red flag laws would essentially allow gun owners, just normal citizens like you and I to have their guns taken away if a neighbour feels in some way threatened by them, a feeling.So we based laws based on facts. We don't base laws on feelings.And the justice system is there to protect, did something happen or did it not happen?It addresses facts, it doesn't address feelings.And feelings are subjective. And so under these red flag laws.That in fact one of my opponents actually voted for, supposedly a Republican and the other opponent actually used the red flag laws that she purportedly is against against her own staff.People, average normal law-abiding citizens are having their guns taken away by, law enforcement because of some purported fear and I think that this puts law enforcement in a very precarious situation situation. In Chesterfield, they've said they wouldn't enforce these. But it also puts average Americans at risk of losing their constitutional freedoms. The First Amendment protects their freedom of speech and expression. Second Amendment protects their gun rights. The Fourth Amendment protects their right to be free from unwarranted search and seizure. So no one has a right to come into my home and to take my guns away unless there is a reason, a justifiable cause, an objective cause, not a subjective one.And that's what's happening here in Virginia. So I'm running against two opponents that don't take these things seriously.And obviously I think that's why the Police Benevolent Association has endorsed me because they understand that they need people that have their back to ensure that police have the support they need to enforce the rule of law, to protect citizens and to ensure that law abiding citizens aren't having their constitutional freedoms taken away.And that's, you know, that's something I fought for my entire life, but it's something here in Virginia I want to protect and preserve. Because I understand what happens in countries when the government doesn't allow individuals to protect themselves or doesn't have a legal rule of law system where the police can be trusted to defend you. And so we have got to secureour ability to have police and law enforcement fully supported and respected so that they can operate as they need to.
 
Let me, the one other topic I just wanted to ask you about and it's on your issue, so people go to your website and they click on the issues is securing our elections and I think of kind of election integrity, a lot being discussed of that, massive subject with a wide scale of issues to address. Obviously many people had questions over what happened in 2020, drop boxes, no ID, it goes on and on. But how do you address this issue as someone who's actually standing for public office and going to the electorate?
 
Well, I think that election integrity is really critical here in America. A lot of countries look to us as kind of the pinnacle of what fair pre-elections should look like, and I think that we've called that into question with, with the way things have been going the last few years.We have to restore confidence in our election system. And that's only going to happen when we have better laws in place that protect our elections.And first and foremost, that means that no one should be voting without an ID.Here in Virginia, you can go and you can vote without having an identity card, without having your driver's license or some other form of physical ID, which is crazy.So somebody could go and vote for me as long as they know my name and address in my place, and I would have no recourse.And I think this is a huge threat to free and fair elections I think that every American should be concerned about it. It's not just a republican or democratic issue, so voter id is first and foremost one of the most critical things we also, I mean one thing that I see around the world is you know people go and they vote on one day and they often have a, an ink stamped on their on their finger one person one vote and they'll run they'll walk for miles to go and vote on that day I've been to Iraq and Sudan and so many Nigeria so many countries where I've where I've seen them voting andhaving their one vote counted and unfortunately here in Virginia we have 45 days of early voting and..
 
45 days, wow
 
45 days of early voting and I find it offensive as an Hispanic woman and as I said as my daughter's is black that they think that somehow minorities like myself of my daughter are too stupid to vote on one day or to know how to fill out an absentee ballot to get it in ahead of time with a justified reason.You know, that was always the case that we were able to, but to say that somehow, well, we can't vote without our ID or we need 45 days of early voting and anything else would be unfair or discriminatory is just insane.This is, you know, I work with people all over the world who are minorities from different backgrounds, races, ethnicities, et cetera, who don't have a problem, literally risking their lives to go and vote on one day and get their finger stamped. There is no reason.That the Democrats are pushing these kinds of policies for any other reason than to cheat and to make, to overburden our registrar system here It not just in Virginia, but around the country and so that's what we see and we need to reduce early voting we need to get back to you know, one day of voting and, the absentee ballots that we used or the you know when people have a justified reason of using an absentee ballot of getting back to that but, but this, this free for all that we see is putting a huge burden on our registrars that are trying to work in counties for six weeks of early voting.As somebody that's running for office, my election will be on June 20th, but in reality, it starts May 5th, next Friday, because that's when early voting starts.And so for six weeks, I will be campaigning as though it's election day, which puts also a huge burden on people running for office and getting out the vote.There's no reason for this. I think that it's an unnecessary burden on every part of the electorate from the registrar down to the voter.Americans have been blessed with the right to vote, with the ability to vote.It is our public duty to vote. It is something that we should be grateful for and that we should not think it a burden to go out on that one day and to put aside a little bit of work and to go vote.That is our public duty. It's our civic duty.And so, around the world, I've been not just advocating for religious freedom, but I've been working in countries like South Sudan to restore agency in that part of the world and other parts of the world where people haven't had elections held in years and decades and they need the right to vote.And so I've been training South Sudanese how to prepare for their national election, which hasn't taken place in about 10, 12 years.And so I come home and I think, gosh, you guys need 45 days to vote and it's still not enough.And you have every excuse under the sun why you can't have an ID card and you can't have this and you can't have that.I mean, people die for the kind of freedom that we have. We should be.We, it's it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing. I mean, I think that's the only way to say it.And so, yes, in the State Senate, I'm going to be fighting to ensure that we have laws that are that are common sense.
Maybe you need to learn from the motherland here in the UK. We can do all our voting between 7 a.m and 10 p.m and we can have it all counted by 2 a.m the next morning. And there's a I've been at election, many, many, many election counts and there was a rush from all the areas to get them in to be the first to be counted. It's a competition, a rush, and America seems to be the opposite, where actually you win if you're the slowest. Six weeks later, you're still counting.It's a strange concept.
 
It's horrible, but it's not a Republican policy. These are things that have been put in place by Democrats that want to subvert our election integrity and Americans are, you know, over 50% of Americans saw what happened in the last election, and don't feel comfortable with the results.And, you know, when you lose that kind of confidence in your election system, it puts America in a very different position, you know, internationally and globally.And so we're not at the forefront, we're not the leader of democracy in this respect.And we need to get back to a system where our people respect and trust the system, let alone the rest of the world where they're struggling to have free and fair elections.Just, if I can just, a few minutes, I just wanna just finish off, touch on an area that's not, well, it's not necessarily in terms of you standing as a candidate, but you've touched on it, your work abroad, and your work on foreign policy all over.And I know you were over in Iraq for their 20th anniversary.You've talked about teaching others how to vote.I mean, you bring a wealth of experience from working in other countries on seeing how they do things and seeing transitions to a democratic process.Just, can we finish on that and how you bring that expertise and experience and knowledge to the Senate?
Absolutely. I think that we are at a really important juncture here in America and in Virginia.We see so many of our institutions and processes failing and people not understanding the values that our country was founded upon.The value of the First Amendment, freedom of speech, of expression, of religion, of conscience, of association, so many of our fundamental rights, now to the point where they don't want to allow police to associate and fight for their ability to have higher pay and have the resources they need to actually protect our rule of law system, protect our Constitution.We have the Second Amendment under attack.We have the Fourth Amendment and search and seizures under attack.So many of our fundamental freedoms that, freedoms that I've fought for around the world for people in places like Iraq, Sudan, Nigeria, I mean, you name it, are now at risk here in America.And I've seen this, I saw this happen, you know, 10 years ago when we fought SupremeCourt on the Hobby Lobby case just to protect the right of businesses to operate according to their conscience.These are things that I expect in other countries. They're not the things that I expect here in America.And so whenever I come back from a country like Iraq or South Sudan where I've been helping them develop an educated public to understand the importance of religious freedom so that a group like ISIS doesn't just re-emerge and brainwash the kids again.We've been training children in Northern Iraq to become resilient against terrorism and extremism.In South Sudan, we've been training members of parliament and citizens across the country in how to have agency and how to understand their rights and freedoms in a democratic system so they can actually have a free and fair election.When I go overseas to do this and I come home, I don't take those kinds of freedoms for granted.But I do see an American public that is increasingly being taught by woke ideologues to abandon those freedoms, to abandon those principles for ideas that have failed around the world, Marxist ideas that have failed.And that is very concerning because America cannot be the beacon light of freedom around the world for people that are desperately searching for it if we abandon the principles that made us great as a nation.And so I, every day as I'm in this race, I'm fighting for the America that I love, the America that I've been blessed to grow up in, the America that has allowed me to fight for freedom people around the world that don't have it.I'm fighting for the future of my daughter who's eight years old who just because of the colour of her skin shouldn't be turned against her mother or be taught to think of people in a category of oppressors and oppressed based on the colour of their skin.I'm fighting for her to grow up and to have optimism and hope and to stand up for the values that I've stood up for and to see people based on their character versus on the colour of their skin.That's the America that I'm fighting for here and the values that I'm fighting for.And because I've seen what happens when you don't have these freedoms in other countries and what, and how people can suffer. I will fight tooth and nail for it because I know how valuable and how worthwhile it is.So I just am grateful to be able to be on your show, Peter, and share what we're doing here in Virginia.There's so much to fight for.And I don't want people to be discouraged by the elections or by what's happening and just to give up, because it's so easy, I think, to give up.But when I'm meeting with people around the world that literally are risking everything, to gain the kind of freedom we have, I feel like it's even more incumbent upon us who have the freedom and haven't completely lost it to fight even harder to preserve it and protect it.So thank you for having me and letting me share. And I look forward to continuing to get to know your viewers and I hope they'll reach out to me on my website and support this campaign however they can so that we can have leaders in office that will stand up for them.Well, thank you, Tina. I've been in, I think I've been in Virginia more than any other place in America. So it does feel, it actually feels like the nice English countryside driving there. So thank you for coming on. I know our viewers can follow you on Twitter, can go to the website, can sign up, can support you financially, your campaign, can sign up to newsletters and follow what's happening. And I know us in the UK will be wishing you the best, praying for your success. And those watching, listening who are stateside in Virginia can actually use their vote to count if they live in that 12th district. So thank you for your time today, Tina.
Thank you, Peter. Well, I look forward to being with you again. Just appreciate all of your viewers reaching out to us at tinaramirez.com.We look forward to having you on as a Senator.

The Week According To . . . Ben Harnwell

Welcome to our hebdomadal show that looks back over the past seven days and this episode it's the return of the totally brilliant Ben Harnwell! As the international editor for Steve Bannon's War Room and the host of War Room: Rome, who better to talk us through what has captured his attention, piqued his interest or made his blood boil in the news, media and tabloids, including...- De-dollarization’s moment might finally be here. A BRICS Currency Could Shake the Dollar’s Dominance.- Yuan overtakes dollar to become most-used currency in China's cross-border transactions.- Average rents for properties across Britain have hit a new record high.- MSM is Dead: Tucker Carlson departs Fox News.- Lolz... Vice President Joe Biden launches 2024 re-election campaign.- Cocktails, oysters and air raid sirens, war hasn’t soured Kyiv’s taste for the good life.- Former Tory MP Andrew Bridgen expelled permanently from The Conservative Party.- Safe and Effective? What it’s like to live with vaccine injury? - Conservative Anglicans reject the Church of England and the Archbishop of Wokeness..... sorry, I mean Canterbury!In the two years between December 2006 and December 2008, Benjamin Harnwell was engaged in drafting the Universal Declaration of Human Dignity, consulting widely with various experts around the world. This work was drawn to a conclusion on 8 December 2008, when (with Gay Mitchell MEP) he founded the European Parliament’s Working Group on Human Dignity (of which he remains Honorary Secretary); and on the same date, simultaneously established (with Nirj Deva MEP) the Dignitatis Humanae Institute (of which he is Director).The Working Group was publicly launched on 25 March 2009 by European Parliament Speaker Dr. Hans-Gert Pöttering MEP (now a Patron of the Dignitatis Humanae Institute). The DHI has since been engaged in launching parallel parliamentary working groups on human dignity in various legislatures around the world, all based on the principles enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Dignity.Ben was the Chief of Staff to Nirj Deva MEP until the end of 2010, since which point he is now based permanently in Rome, directing the development of the DHI. When involved in politics, he was an active member of the British Conservative Party for over 15 years. Benjamin identifies himself philosophically as an Austro-libertarian, co-founding (with Vincent de Roeck) the European Parliament’s Mises Circle, which exists to promote greater recognition of the Austrian School of Economics; he also co-founded the international Right Approach Group (with Patrick Barron), to explore free-market solutions to contemporary problems.In 2002 and 2004, Ben was seconded to Colombo as Special Advisor to Sri Lankan Prime Minister Ranil Wickremesinghe.H.E. Mons. Sánchez Sorondo, Bishop Chancellor of the Pontifical Academies of Science and Social Sciences, appointed Ben External Counsellor in 2016.Since February 2018 Harnwell, as director of the DHI, is also the director of the Abbey of Trisulti, founded in AD 1204 and National Monument of Italy since 1873.From October 2021 to date Ben serves as international editor at “Steve Bannon’s War Room” and host of "War Room: Rome" on the number 1 ranked US political podcast.Join Ben for his daily analysis on “Steve Bannon’s War Room” and on Monday-Thursday hosting 'War Room: Rome' live on GETTR and Rumble https://warroom.org/Follow Ben on.....GETTR https://gettr.com/user/harnwellTWITTER https://twitter.com/ben_harnwell?s=20&t=lyY0pPen6Hs7_y2SxnAX4gOriginally broadcast live 29.4.23Transcript available on our Substack...https://heartsofoak.substack.com/
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(Hearts of Oak)
Today, it is always good to have the international editor of Steve Bannon's War Room and host of War Room Room, and that is Ben Harnwell himself. Ben, thank you for joining us tonight.
(Ben Harnwell)
Thanks, Peter. It's a great pleasure, privilege and honour to be invited back onto the show.
Well, you were so good last time, you have to come on again. So I thoroughly enjoy watching you on War Room. Obviously, you can catch Ben @Harnwell on GETTR, is the best place to find him, and you can see his regular contributions on War Room. Ben, I thought we'd first just play a little clip of the long interview with Steve K. Bannon and President Trump. Let me bring this up and just play a little bit at the beginning, and then we can discuss this.(video plays)
President Trump, thank you very much. Thank you. This book, I think, for people that know and love you is what, what people have been waiting for, because it shows you prior to you being president.And you've got what I call the great and the good of the late 20th century and early 21st century.It's everywhere. It's entertainment, it's media, it's sports, religious figures, and you've got, you know, their letters to you, your correspondent back, the great photography, but then the special is your commentary and observations.How did you come up with the idea? Why did you want to do this?So a group of people got to see in my office, I have stacks and stacks of letters from really famous people. And they say very diverse, okay, very diverse, like actors and crazy people. Probably I shouldn't say this, probably mobsters. And, you know, we had sort of everyone yet boxers, but we had everybody and, and Richard Nixon and politicians, famous politicians and some really good ones and very personal letters. And they saw this and they said, you got to be, and they started looking and Sergio, who you just had on is terrific. Fantastic.Started looking at these letters he said these letters are incredible. I had two women, Norma who passed away but she was with me for many years and she was a fantastic woman and she worked with a young woman named Rona, Rona, Rona Graff And between the two of them, they love to save letters.And every letter was saved and preserved and beautiful and wrapped up.And all of a sudden we saw these boxes full of letters and Sergio and his staff, they went through them. They said, you're not going to believe some of these letters.Like getting a letter from Rosie O'Donnell, who was in love.I don't want to say that in the true sense of the word, but you know, she really liked me a lot.Whoopi Goldberg. By the way, Alec Baldwin, it's the whole, it's all this kind of graciousness, gratitude and class.But not just running for office, because we've got Cuomo, I'll talk to you about that.It's what you stood for when you ran for office. That's what separated it out.I want to go just to some of the, I think some of the ones that are best at the beginning.Talk to me....Now, Ben, we could go through all of that, but that would miss out your input.But that is available on War Room GETTR.It is available on War Room Rumble.But of course, Steve's time in the White House with President Trump, I mean, tell us your perspective of course of that interview as someone who is working with Steve, working with the War Room. Tell us your thoughts about it.
 
I loved that interview. I was watching it was late at night obviously here in Europe when that came out as it was for you. But I was on my seat. But this was I think the old Donald Trump, that we haven't really, relaxed, totally comfortable in his own skin, that we, I don't really know if we've seen it since the 2016 cycle. He was absolutely, it's perfect. A lot of inside details, you know, with his negotiations with Emmanuel Macron.Well there weren't many negotiations, Macron was totally rolled, but sort of inside goss on these one-on-one trade negotiations was just absolutely fascinating. And then of course you heard the, we had the exchange there with Steve and President Trump talking, and about you know how all these A-listers were corresponding with him from the 80s onwards in very warm terms. People like, they've just nominated Rosie O'Donnell and Alec Baldwin and what have you, and you sort of realize it's not, there's an element of course that when Trump declared his, when he came down the escalator and declared he was going to be a candidate, Yeah, fair enough. That is a pivot point between his relationship and all the celebrities who'd been cultivating him, because obviously he's a very rich guy, right, that had been cultivating him. And he's very well known for being a generous benefactor as well. So it's understandable that a lot of people would have been cultivating his friendship. You know, and as Steve mentioned that interview, what comes across is the respect and the warmth that these people had towards him.And that's absolutely true. And it's true that when Trump aligned himself with the America FirstMovement, and in fact takes the banner in his own hand and takes it forward, that a lot of that change.I sort of think though, and as much as that is true, there's something else going on, as well in that story and that's a lot of this opposition, you know, the people like Baldwin and Rosie O'Donnell, they're pivoted from warmth, respectful friendship to absolute Trump derangement syndrome and there's an element of that. But you know, Peter, I also think I think this thing, this book illustrates something else.A lot of that antipathy is just fake.These Hollywood A-listers and the celebrities who start foaming at the mouth, at the name Donald Trump, it's fake.They're all doing it because they believe, because they know nothing about politics.They have no, you know, they really don't understand, you know, they don't see, they don't understand as acute observers of politics should do, international affairs and economics as a relationship between cause and effect.And when you're looking at effect, you need to trace back and find out what that cause is.If you want to deal with it, you can't just stand there at an award ceremony and vote to a certain thing that you've done something about it.So obviously these people know literally zero about politics or current affairs, but they all, there's a lot of peer pressure and these people are very shallow and narcissistic and they fall in line.They take the line that's given to them and they quite happily fall in it.I don't see, Peter, what the explanation is, to go from, as this book is a testament of, from that degree of affection to Trump derangement syndrome. the opposition that we see, and which is very influential.People are, in the social media age, they are enormously influenced by influencers and celebrities.And I don't know, perhaps it's salutary to take a moment and stop and just realize that a lot of this is just absolutely fake, which is why they, why on the very rare occasion, Peter, that these people are held to account and to ask to expand on their opposition, they, you know, they stumble and stammer, they're in the mumble tank because they can't actually explain the reason for the emotional intensity of their supposed opposition. But look, the interview, it was based around this book and the correspondence within it, but it's actually far more than that. It was a real, you know, I don't think, Peter, that Donald Trump has allowed an interview at like basically one and a half hour full-length interview in this way with anyone since, no, not since leaving office, since declaring his candidacy, I certainly can't remember it, and most of the interviews, because you know, unlike President Biden, President Trump is quite happy to submit himself to hostile questioning. This was actually really unique in interviews so many regards because you don't have that superficial mainstream media attempt to virtue signal your opposition to Trump when you're interviewing him in the questions.So that doesn't make a show in. So actually you get it's Donald Trump with his former chief strategist going through and actually intelligently talking about so many things from Ukraine to Biden, to immigration, to the economy, without just the sheer waste of time, this fake antipathy it brings to it.So I would strongly, strongly, strongly, strongly, strongly recommend to anyone watching this weekly review with us now, to go on to either Steve Bannon's GETTR account or the War Room account.We've got a great selection, I'm going to be pushing some out in the next 24 hours on my own account, great selection of highlights from that interview and I can't recommend it more because it really shows you Donald Trump in the most, you know, the most human and approachable light. And we're starved of that, thanks to the mainstream media filter.I don't know what you thought about that interview, but I was just captivated by the whole thing.I agree. And for the sake of time, I'll just say it was great to have, obviously, President Trump knows Steve Bannon, Steve knows Trump.And to have that conversation with two friends is different from a normal interview where the people don't know each other.So that level of familiarity brings a conversation amongst friends.And I think the viewer gets an insight into that connection.But we could talk about that for the rest of the evening. I will leave it to the viewers if they haven't already watched it to make sure they do watch it because it is an interview amongst two friends.And in that connection, you get to see a lot and learn a lot of things from that.
Peter, can I just add to that before we move on?
 
Of course you can.
That's absolutely true. Because of the intimate sort of atmosphere of it between, as you say, two people, two friends, two colleagues who work together, obviously, on the campaign in 2016. Part of, you know, because of that intimacy there, that, you know, it wasn't so much of a formal, hostile interview, but I don't know about you Peter, but I got the impression as if I was sort of eavesdropping at some point on, you know, There are two people who know one another who are having a private chat in the corner of a bar, and you're just listening and eavesdropping in on some of what they were saying.Because there were some unguarded moments, but people need to go and watch it.
I agree. It felt as though you're intruding on a private conversation.I get that 100 percent.I did feel that as well. It felt a bit bad. Well, it's there for all to see.But yeah, that's there for all to see, the viewers and listeners go to war room on GETTR or on rumble and you can watch the whole interview but moving on to other events because uh President Trump that will be over the next 18 months so you're going to get a lot of that don't you worry but moving on to the economics and this is a intriguing story. A BRICS currency could shake the dollar's dominance. De-dollarization movements might finally be here. And the first part of his talk of a de-dollarization is in the air. Last month, the New Delhi, Alexander Babakov, deputy chairman of Russia's State Duma, said that Russia is now spearheading the development of a new currency. It is to be used for cross-border trade by the BRICS nations, Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. And it is intriguing to see this change in, I guess, geopolitical financial control away from the power of the US dollar over to other economies that are actually growing much faster and taking on a bigger market share. And we've heard, I guess, the death kneel of the dollar many times. What are your thoughts on this Ben?
Well, actually, we discussed this on the War Room earlier on in the week.I'll make some different points this evening from what I made before.My first observation is that you're looking at the countries here, Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, and you've got Saudi Arabia as well sort of sitting in the side-lines.These are countries which have rivalries and mutual distrusts between them and Joe Biden is a pretty bad president.But the formation of BRICS, I think it was actually launched by Lula himself some 10 years ago when he was last in power, What a whole succession of incompetent and hubristic US administrations have succeeded in doing, is giving the glue to these disparate countries to come together and start working now on our trading area come eventual currency union, specifically because they distrust the United States so much.And this isn't a distrust towards the American people. It's a distrust towards the CIA.The meddling in their own international domestic politics, the military industrial complex, the whole of the warmongering, the endless warmongering.It's a persistent distrust of that, that has brought these countries together to overcome their, as I say, their mutual suspicions and distrust, but to work together. And I have to say, even though, you know, you and I were both fans of very, very, very, verystrong allies of the American people, but the damage that its corrupt MIC regime has been doing for decades to the detriment of the American people, the distrust that has generated in these countries is not exactly Peter, out of place. That is, they have good reason and to want to work together because the military industrial complex is out of control.And yeah, so that's really my point here. It will be to the detriment of the American people eventually, the loss of the dollars, the international currency of settlement. And that will, that, you know, because once that evaporates, the demand to hold dollars internationally by central banks will diminish.And then of course, then America will be held by the ordinary laws of economic reality when it comes to printing money as all other countries are.And that will hit the American people very hard. They've been protected to somewhat for the last 70 years from those consequences.So on the one hand, this move isn't to be welcomed from the perspective of the American people, but it is to be understood, and by understood I mean the lessons are to be learned just how bad the US meddling in other countries abroad has been.
Well, that was on the BRICS country, and then this story is specifically on China.This is from Reuters.The UN overtakes dollar to become most-used currency in China's cross-border transactions.And there, the UN became the most widely used currency for cross-border transactions in China in March, overtaking the dollar for the first time, and talks about the difference in payments.And this is, again, interesting. It is the rise of China and their global influence.We've seen it militarily.We've seen it economically. And this is more of the power of their own currency, which then cuts out the ability of the US to have influence.So this kind of builds on the BRICS story, specifically looking at China.Yeah, absolutely it does. It's important to remember, but you know, just weaning back to BRICS for a moment, that when Bolsonaro was president of Brazil, he tacked a very, very different line. He was very hostile to China and very close to the United States.And because Biden is basically a cretin, he believed that it would be better in US interests to have a hard-line pseudo-communist like Lula as president of Brazil, rather than another Trump type of nationalist.You know, and you just, you wonder what is the nature of political calculation going on in those around the leader of the free world to do that because the first thing Lula has done is pivoted straight back to Beijing, to the detriment of the United States and you think basically, the ruling class, that parasitical class that is running the United States into the ground, are they actually being bought off by another country, hostile to the United States' interest. I mean is it possible to be in innocence that incompetent?
Yeah it makes you wonder what is happening and we're all witnessing that change of the guard I think on the economic world stage.I'm on of course why not with Biden completely incompetent and the chaos that he isputting to the US economy and Ben you and I watch from a distance but for all our American viewers they're suffering the consequences of that. But this here's a story about the impact of the economic changes, impact on inflation and many other aspects and I think wherever you are in the world you will read this story with understanding probably similar to what is happening in your part of the world, wherever you're watching.But this is on Sky News. Average UK rents hit record two and a half thousand pounds in London amid property shortage.A report by Rightmove gives some hope of an easing ahead as higher mortgage rates alongside the cost of living crisis all combine to squeeze affordability.And the cost of living crisis simply with going and filling up your shopping basket is crazy, certainly in the UK, with basic food items up 30, 40%.If you think any dairy products, it's certainly 40%. And then I know talking to individuals about renting and they just sign the contract each year because it just goes up by 15, 20%.And of course, private landlords, landlords being punished. So those private homes being taken off.But Ben, I think wherever our viewers are watching, it's something that we are all facing, the impact on inflation, impact on rising living costs, and people have to make very difficult decisions.Yeah, this is a complex issue.And at some elemental level, there is a mismatch as this article suggests that you have in front of us, between supply and demand.I would say that, and you mentioned it, and the Daily Telegraph has been quite strong on this over recent months as well.I would say that looking at the supply part of this problem, it's a target, and it has been, I think, for centuries in the UK, for the middle class to own property in order to let, as you know, there's not the safest houses, but if you need to invest, invest it in a house, put it out to let, and that ought to be relatively secure as a potential source of future income.What the government is doing,in its infinite incompetence, is, you know, because it's trying to be populist, but it's mushing it all up. It's actually making it very difficult for landlords to let properties with any degree of confidence in future returns. I'm not saying the UK is moving back to the era of rent controls, but it's not far from that. You know, tenants have ever more rights.You know, for example, if I've understood this correctly, Peter, when leases are up now, it's not, or the legislative plan is to make it very difficult for landlords to kick tenants out.And that tenants will have a guaranteed right on terms of negotiating rent and all the rest of it.So the consequence of that, obviously, is that if you have a property, you just won't put it out to let until the chaos and the uncertainty has sorted itself out.You know, and that further down the line creates the supply problems that we have now.It's not as if the UK population has expanded exponentially.Obviously, a lot of illegals flooding in every day, that's absolutely true, but they're not coming in looking to rent property.They don't need to, because they're being put up by courtesy of the taxpayer in our best hotels.No, this is a different issue. And I rather guess that if you, as I was talking about cause and effect earlier, if we follow this back far enough, we will find the culprit is being previous intervention and legislation by a pseudo populist government of whatever description, because we have a uni party in the UK as they do in the States.And that will be the fundamentalcause I think of the supply shortage right now.
 
Yes the frustration whenever the government get involved in things then you think oh this can only go one way and that's problematic.Moving on to the probably the big story of the week and that is Tucker Carlson, so going stateside again although Tucker's influence is worldwide literally. This is the Los Angeles Times, one of the developments of it, although there have been many developments since, and this is Tucker Carlson Departs Fox News, pushed out by Rupert Murdoch.And if I can just read this, Tucker Carlson, the provocative, provocative?Conservative prime-time host who sustained Fox News as a ratings juggernaut, has been forced out of the network. Fox News announced the stunning departure of his top-rated host on Monday with no explanation, but people familiar with the situation who are not authorized to comment publicly said the decision to fire Carlson came straight from Fox News chairman Rupert Murdoch with input from board members and other Fox core executives. Ben, this must go down is probably the worst business decision of all time. You do not sack the person who brings in the ratings. And what are your thoughts on watching this car crash that we are seeing at Fox News?
 
Well, the first thing to do here is I think tip one's hat to Steve Bannon's insight on this, which is that this is really part of the Murdoch family trying to tilt the game away from Donald Trump in 2024. And I think there's obviously some truth in that and I think Murdoch's personal contempt for Donald Trump is so great that he is willing to take the hit to his family's fortunes in order to do that, because Fox was in the 2016 cycle a pretty important pillar in Trump's armoury.So that's the first point. The second point that I would make is that this is sort of, It really illustrates to the extent in which Fox Media Corporation is a controlled opposition.And therefore, for people who are angered by that realisation, it ought to be a further push to start checking out the alternative media, Peter, your program, The War Room, and things like that, that are taking place outside of, the cable news networks lock grip on the official narrative, that's a good thing.You know, in a problem, you know, in a certain sense, it's great when you have a dominant monoculture. It's great for, and the worst competition as possible, it's great for, it's a great opportunity for rivals to come up and make a huge splash in terms of influence and audience share in very short time. And I think that's what we're seeing.
Oh really, and it's exciting to see where Tucker will go, today I think that Jim Hoff and Gateway Pundit wrote that Newsmax had offered him a colossal contract. But I've been intrigued to watch. Obviously, the reach the War Room have is huge. There are other programs out there.And it will be, I mean, the world is Tucker's oyster. And I'm thinking, well, he's been fairly honest, but I'm assuming he has been partially constrained by Fox News. So whenever you have an unconstrained Tucker Carlson, this is going to be phenomenal. So I think we're all watching in this space to see what develops from this.Look, Petey, you and I, we're both active in the same media circles.I don't know anybody else on Fox that has any resonance in our circles beyond Tucker Carlson.I'd never, you know, there are some other presenters on there that are more or less, no, they're less, they are just less interesting.But nobody, nobody, you know, and I'm consumed by following the news sort of 18 hours a day.And I have been doing it full-time for 18 months.Nobody, not a single person, you know, half of all, if I were to say all I do is sit down and communicate with other journalists, it's an exaggeration, but there's some truth there.Nobody in 18 months has ever sent me a Sean Hannity text saying, or Cliff, saying, Harnwell, you must see this.You must see what Hannity, it's never happened. No one else on Fox has any resonance whatsoever outside of the Fox ecosystem.Tucker Carlson did. And I, you know, their loss will be, it might be Chris Ruddy's gain, we'll find out. But it will be someone's gain.
Completely. And let's, I see that Paul Lee, just watching on Facebook, says they took Tucker out in a desperate attempt to stop Trump. I think you could be bang on the money with that. And of course, the good news, the strange news, Tucker going actually wasn't necessarily bad news, because he was released by the constraints, I guess, of a massive network. The other gift to us all was that, yes, it is wonderful. It has been announced that President Joe Biden launches his 2024 re-election campaign. This is on the BBC News, obviously everywhere. He announced he'll be running for 2024, setting the stage for a potential rematch with Donald Trump. The good news is that Vice President Kamala Harris will once again be his running mate. I mean, what could be better? And of course, Mr Biden, 80, is already the oldest president in US history, is likely to face questions about his age throughout the campaign. He would be 86 after finishing his second full term in 2029. And I don't think he knows what day of the week it is, where he is, or what is happening to him. But Dr Jill looks after him, I believe, in there in the White House.But, Ben, we expected this to come and I'm intrigued to how the Democrat party respond because surely they can't watch, can't want an increpid, sadly, deficient individual running for president and leading the Democrat party. So what are your thoughts on this?
Well, you know, erm, I tell you, I was rather sorry for that sort of, for that angry old man, angry corrupt old man in the Oval Office when he broke this news, because it was immediately bounced off the press the following day by the Tucker Carlson sacking.It had a lot less residents, because that really sort of, it was the Tucker Carlson thing, that sort of really dominated the following 48 hours of press.And the Biden campaign, it was a bit like, oh, yawn from the world's media.Now you said that the Democrats can't be too happy to see him declaring for 2024. Well you know the Democrats aren't the only ones. I've got something here. This I think was pushed out by Gallup, there's been a fall in the world's approval ratings, considered approval rating of the US president over the last two years.Let me give you the figures. Right now, this is like Gallup spoke to 140 countries over the course of 2022.And they say that the median global approval rating of US leadership has fallen from 49% to 41%.Over the 18 months of Biden's administration. And as a comparison, Donald Trump was at 31%.And Obama, his second year rating was 47%. Well, at the rate Biden is collapsing, he's going to be on Trump's ratings by the start of a potential second term, which will never happen. Anyway, and that makes you think that, you know, we were promised so much difference when the adults were going to return to the room, weren't we, Peter? You know, when we were promised a return of normalcy, we were told repeatedly how the rest of the world was looking aghast, at Donald Trump's administration.And my reflection on this point, Peter, is this, that Biden isn't in free fall.I mean, I personally, half of me says that the country has no need to pay attention to what other countries are thinking of it anyway, right?But he's not in free fall because he's been pushing America first agenda and that's been putting everyone else's nose out of joint. That was the issue with Donald Trump, right? Of course the rest of the world hated him because he was pushing America's interests left, right and centre when it came to NATO subscription membership or trade agreements. Trump was trying to put America first in every single instance and all the other countries had had a free reign for decades to push their countries first and treat United States like a fool. So you can understand why the other countries weren't so happy. People are by Biden's international approval ratings are in free fall because of his incompetence and hubris.And because you won't see this read on the mainstream American media but the rest of the world isn't as nearly gung-ho about this war in Ukraine for example as the media in America likes to push, and this is reflected in these ratings. I just wanted, you know, I just thought that is, I think, if we're going to talk about, as I say, it's almost beer talk, talking about, you know, if we're at a pub having a pint talking about a second Biden administration, it's not going to happen. For a number of reasons it won't happen, but were it to happen,this is the sort of thing that the consequences are. And there are different ways of rating America's standing in the rest of the world.One of them, one, you know, you can be hated but feared, and you could be hated and just treated with irrelevance and contempt.And those are basically the two different approaches between Donald Trump and Joe Biden.
Well, moving on to, you mentioned Ukraine, and let's look at this.This was an intriguing, it was from the 15th, but I think you had reposted it more recently, Ben, and it's quite intriguing to bring up the topic of what is happening there.This is the Times, Cocktails, Oysters, and Air Raid Sirens. War hasn't soured Kyiv's taste for the good life.And it says there are now more bars and cafes in Ukraine's capital than before the invasion.It's a very strange story, Ben, because we are told that Russia kind of obviously at war with Ukraine, and we see all the videos of that war, and yet the Times comes out with a story that there are more bars and cafes than ever before.It doesn't sound very much like a dangerous war zone, but what are your thoughts on this, Ben?
 
It's strange.I don't know how this, I mean, the Times for our international audience is Murdoch Press.And it's been a number one Vladimir Zelensky cheerleader right from the beginning.How this article snuck by the census, I have no idea.Are some great lines in here. Here's one line, right, talking about a cook called Somin, age 31, who's returned to Kyiv in late 2021. The Times writes that after a successful career cooking abroad that the guy struggles to find for his restaurant unripe mangoes, adding that ripe mangoes a plentiful. Well, you know.Try shopping for fresh fruit in the UK, local Sainsbury's, it would appear that the supermarkets in Kyiv, which we're led to believe is a war zone, are more bountiful and stocked up.You know, they're making the UK look like communist Russia, pre-cold, pre-Berlin wall fall, here's my favourite line, if I may, from this article.This is brilliant.And I quote, The Kyiv Opera is open, and luxury spas offer gold-leaf facials and teeth whitening.It's no different here, one sales assistant said. It's just the same as it was before.You know, Peter, I don't know about you, right? I don't know about you.When was the last time you went for a gold leaf facial?
 
I don't even know what that is, Ben, but we missed that. We need to go to Kyiv.
 
I swear, I swear to God, I had to Google it. I had no idea what it was either. But that, you know, that's where our taxes in the West are going to because they weren't accounted for. We don't know where I'm going to go when they're handing it over, to Kyiv. But we've been saying on the War Room right from the beginning, right from day one, that it's going to Zelensky's, fundamentally to his oligarchs for spending, whether that's in the military or on services or infrastructure or budgetary support, the money is always bein, funnelled by his oligarchs and you know these oligarchs, you know, they need gold leaf facials. Who doesn't?
 
Who doesn't? Well, moving on to someone who doesn't need a gold leaf facial, and that is Andrew Bridgen in the UK. And I'll read this and then we'll maybe let our international audience have a bit of an idea what that is. This is in The Guardian. And this is the news, the headline there that former Tory MP Andrew Bridgen, that's the Conservative Party for our foreign viewers, expelled permanently from party. Northwest Leicestershire MP has sat as an independent since losing Tory whip after comparing use of Covid jabs to holocaust. And I'm full on down this rabbit hole with Andrew and of course he was vaccine injured and has raised this and spoken about this in Parliament. He has been attacked, demonised by everyone, including Penny Mordaunt, that's probably no bad thing, the leader of the House, the Speaker of the House, and now he's been thrown out of the Conservative Party, seemingly simply for questioning and, discussing the harm that's been caused and how widespread or not, that's a whole other area, but simply for raising this issue. How have you viewed this, Ben, of how Andrew Bridgen has been treated and his expulsion from the Conservative Party?Well, the first thing... Well, okay, so the first, the proper first thing, is that as far as I'm concerned, that inverted... I use sort of air quotes as I say this, the Conservative Party needs to be sued under the Trades Description Act because it's clearly not a conservative party in any way shape or form and it hasn't been for a number of years. It's a hoax calling it a conservative party, it's not remotely. That's the first thing to say and this story just illustrates that to perfection. The second thing I'd like to say is just pointing out the grawny ads and rather lax editorial policy here because they say here that this northwest Leicestershire, which is my area of the country by the way, it's not my constituency but that is my area of the country, that he's sad as an independent since losing the Tory whip after comparing the use of Covid jabs to the Holocaust.That's not what he did, right? What he did, as the article then explains, is that he tweeted an attributing a quote to a consultant cardiologist who had said to him that the Covid vaccines is the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust. So that wasn't actually Bridgen's comparison. It was a cardiologist that had said that to him.Now you might, people might think that's a slight distinction. I don't think it's a slight distinction. I think it's an important distinction. But even if he had compared it to the Holocaust, I don't think that's, the next story we're going to discuss I think brings this out integrated relief. I don't think that would be grounds for permanently expelling him from the party.My first thought, Peter, is that the consultant who said that needs to go on the record.It's up to him, it's up to, you know, it's up to him and his own conscience. Obviously, I guess he might be working within the world's largest communist organization, the NHS, so he might not want, he might not, you know, understandably he might not want to go on the record with that, and yeah, and half of me says, and who can blame him, but, you know, he really, you know, he really, I think he really needs to go on the record with that.The second thing I thought when I was reading this article is the tweet from, the board of deputies of British Jews which said it was pleased with its portion and I quote, right, suggesting that Covid vaccines are the biggest crime against humanity since the Holocaust is not an opinion which should be countenanced in any serious political party. You know, that kind of thing, I mean, that kind of thing just shows that the Board of Deputies of British Jews has zero credibility about anything. I mean, for one, for one, the consultant cardiologist didn't say that it was a crime against humanity that rivalled the Holocaust. He said since the Holocaust. And these people think that the COVID vaccine injury is a big crime against humanity.So if anything they're underlining the importance of the Holocaust rather than undermining it.But you know these people have always been rather too quick to send out a press release if it gets them some some press coverage and I never want to hear from these people again. I think they've lost every shred of integrity at this point. Third point I hope this guy reaches out to Nigel Farage, or Nigel reaches out to him. That would be a fitting close to this chapter.
It would be and it'd be intriguing to see how it goes and where Andrew ends up.If I just comment on a few, lots of comments on GETTR. I love how we have so many comments on GETTR. Three Day Weekend, HW Logan, Dan2848, who else? Scotland the Brave, Jimbra. There are lots of, I'm scrolling up some of your names are just too long and I can't even it'll take me the whole show to go through some of your handles but thank you so much for your comments I always go and look at them after although me I don't always get the chance to to bring them in but thank youso much for your comments there and following on from the Andrew Bridgen this was an article and again this is it intrigues me because these are articles which we would not have seen any time during the last three years and they're now coming out and it's intriguing how the media are, I guess, rewriting things and saying, actually, there are some issues we need to address, even though if you address these things and that's why we're not on YouTube, because if we read this story out on YouTube, we would have got a strike immediately, even though it's the Metro, the newspaper that's given out every morning on the Tube, on the Underground, on the Metro in London.And the headline is, 'sometimes I don't know if I'm going to wake up in the morning, what it's like to live with vaccine injury.'And the gentleman here, Adam, as a former physiotherapist to professional sports people, Adam Rowland knows the importance of staying well. He used to train six times a week, never smoked, rarely drinks.Now he can't even walk on a treadmill for exercise.The dad of two worked with Warrington Wolves before he had to resign in November due to a raft of complicated health issues.And then the story goes into, it seems to be linked to the vaccine. And I ampleased Ben, that at long last the media are highlighting that there are people who have suffered massively from side effects to the vaccine and I don't think that was portrayed or put forward or announced enough beforehand as people were rushing for this. But what are your thoughts on this story of Adam, vaccine injured?
 
I'm conflicted, Peter, with this story.I mean, obviously I have sympathy for the guy, but I just read this article with a growing sense of wandering disbelief.So he has the first injection, it's the AstraZeneca I think he has in February 2021.This is like well, well into the era of documented stories saying that the vaccine is not safe and it's dangerous, right?This isn't a first wave. So then within a week of having an injection, he's then got sort of heart palpitations, like 20 palpitations a day, panic attacks, drooping eyelids.He can't get up. He's collapsing, being rushed to the A&E, right? And this goes on.I shouldn't laugh, but this goes on for months, getting worse and worse and worse.He's going to the hospital, going to the doctors.And then three months later in May, he goes back and has the second injection.I have sympathy for the plight, but at a certain point you just think, you know, I don't know.I don't want to be harsh. My observation on this article, in order to maintain a certain, sense of charity is never underestimate what people will believe if the government tells them solemnly. Now we knew this, we knew this anyway, right, but if there's a, well there's not asilver lining on the cloud of Covid, but if there were one, it's that every single person with to eyes and a brain that's lived through this so-called pandemic, it now has personal, first-hand empirical experience of just how friends, family, neighbours, loved ones, colleagues can be brainwashed by the BBC and the news and the government and doctors and the professionals and the scientists, with basically half the population, you know, would seem to have zero capacity for introspection and analysis on what they're told from official sources. And that, Peter, is absolutely terrifying. It ought to be terrifying. It is terrifying. You know, we knew this, anyone who's read books on the Second World War and the rise of the Third Reich, even if you've not read it since these things since you were a school kid or what have you, yet everyone always said, you know, the Germans after the war, you know, they were amazed how mass insanity can take hold.And we Peter we've learned nothing we've literally perhaps we learned for a few decades afterwards, but now it's just distant memory we literally have learned absolutely nothing um and having lived through this so-called pandemic um my takeaway has just beenI watched open mouth how people um how easy it is for government to manipulate what people think and to sacrifice their freedoms as well. Terrifying, absolutely terrifying.
Well let's finish off with another institution that told people that was a mouthpiece of the government and I have no love at all anymore for the apostate church, that is the Anglican church.I think I've given my views there in a nutshell. This is GB News, who do do some amazing stories, thin in other ways, but this is concerted Anglicans reject Church of England and Archbishop of Canterbury and I had watched Calvin Robinson who was there at the conference, but the conference brought together more than 1300 delegates from 52 countries. It's the Global Anglican Future Conference, GAFCOM, has pledged to reject the Church of England and the Archbishop of Canterbury and they had gathered in Rwanda and withdrew their recognition of Justin Welby, better known as Wet Welby, as the first amongst equals. And I'm intrigued by this, Ben, because it is positive, I think, to see some pushback on the woke liberal agenda that Justin Welby brings as head of the Anglican Church. What are your thoughts?Yeah, where do I start? This is, I don't want to be harsh to the Anglican communion, to Anglicans or to Protestants generally, having been an Anglican at one point in my life.So I'll try to be respectful in what I say.In, you know, I could just as easily address what I actually want to say, talking about the Catholic Church, because the issues are the same, right? The issue that, the issue is the same, just the Anglian communion is just slightly further, you know, historically, it was like a couple of generations ahead, but the Pope Francis has done his best to, in 10 years, to catch up up the Anglicans in terms of implosion.Where to start on this, Peter?UmFirstly, the fundamental issue that all Christian churches or ecclesial communities, whatever term you want to use, the fundamental question that Christianity faces and has faced since the beginning of the modern era is, what is the basis of our belief as Christians?And can that basis change? And if it changes, and if the substance of the faith changes, are we still Christian because we are in the centre, the median centre of the horizontally, if you will, of Christians in our own period?Or are we also in communion with the church throughout time?Call that vertical, if you will. And if you pick the first one, really the church in it as a pilgrim church through time, that it needs to remain cohesive, keep all the sheep in the truck together and not necessarily be so anchored to what were form of beliefs.Then you are basically, I mean, I don't share that view remotely, but the danger with that is that you then, well, however you decided to do so, you become a make it up as you go along religion.And I don't know about other religions, but I would definitely say Christianity does not work on a make it up as you go along basis, because nobody wants, no one will change their lives to fit into a make it up as you go along religion. And certainly no one will be converted by that, there'll be no witness in terms of conversion and bringing people into the church, into practicing Christianity, into a relationship with Jesus Christ on the basis of that. Because really what we're doing is conforming the church to the times, rather than allowing ourselves to be conformed by Christ.And this is, I think, absolutely the problem that the Anglican communion has, because it hasn't decided that Welby and the Western Anglican practitioners, who are only about 15% of the communion, want to move with the times.Specifically, it's the blessing of homosexual marriages here.85% of the church, I think, is in Africa or the developing world, generally.And the African church doesn't want to follow.And they have this problem, and the Catholic church has a problem as well.Basically, I know we're winging now to the end of the show Peter, of our hour.I close with this point.We should look at the collapse and the implosion of the Anglican communion.And Anglicans can learn from it, Catholics can learn from it, evangelicals can learn from it.I would suggest, sadly I could talk for a whole hour about this, but as far as I'm concerned the only valid form of Christian witness today is to be conformed to the teachings that Jesus Christ, expounded 2,000 years ago and the apostles and the early church and the constant interpretation of the revelation of the church is the constant unchanging interpretation of the revelation of the church and it ought to be our guide for today and that will offend people, it will also bring about martyrdom for some but there's no other offer on the table at leastput there by Christ. That's it, you know. It's sad and tragic, but I think the most tragic thing about it is it being unnecessary.
Yeah, yeah, no, completely, completely. I just want to leave our viewers with two uplifting things. Yeah, no, go on, throw it in, Benny.
I forgot, I forgot, I forgot, I forgot that we had, we had these two things to come.But I'm just gonna let our viewers watch it and at least it leaves them with a smile.I think it's important to use humour and satire when you look at the world or else it could be quite depressing.
Oh hang on, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.This video is not satire, it's truth, Peter.
 
Ha ha ha!Well, let's play this.Babylon Bee, I absolutely love Babylon Bee, and I actually did look at, regularly looked at Babylon Bee, but actually ended up just looking at the headlines, and then someone pulled me up on it, and I started going through the articles, and I thought, this is just better than ever.So this is one of Babylon Bee's videos, and I will let it speak for itself....(video plays)
Being a man is pretty great. It's way better than the alternative.To clearly demonstrate why being a man is so great, the Babylon Bee presents the following list.The world is your urinal. Being well standing up comes in handy when you're in a hurry or going to the bathroom somewhere where you shouldn't be.You have a brain that's three times the size of a woman's.It's science. It's culturally acceptable for you to roll up tobacco leaves into a big cylinder, light it on fire and stick it in your mouth.You can have an entire conversation with your best friend just by saying what's up bro? What's upThat bad, huh?Take one of these. Your facial hair is considered attractive.Forget to shave for a couple of days and suddenly you go from a six to a solid eight.Your extensive knowledge of all subjects allows you to graciously explain things to women.You're welcome. You can wear the same shirt for thirty-eight years.You don't have to be a slave to fashion when you have the perfect T-shirt for every occasion.You make more money than a woman for doing the same job. Being a man comes with an automatic pay raise.Huh.Payday. You are biblically allowed to speak in church. Plus, your wife has to do everything you say all the time.Pretty sure it's in the Bible somewhere.You have a reduced chance of Joe Biden sniffing you. Not zero chance, unfortunately. So be careful.Only men are allowed to be president.No glass ceiling here.If you want, you can be the world's strongest woman.Get it, girl? Yeah, being a man's pretty great. If you can think of any other ways that being a man is awesome, leave them in the comments down below so I can not read them.Because I'm a man. Exercise your God-given right to be a man and get 10 Mui Macho top-rated premium cigars from Oliva for $19.99.We will. Absolutely brilliant. I absolutely love that. Go on, what are your thoughts on it?
Well, it's one word. It's one word to the whole thing, fact.
 
It's so good. It is Babylon Bee, I heard Seth Dillon speak at a conference I went to in Miami in February, and he just blew the whole conference event away.Actually, phenomenal what he's doing, love it. And if I could just leave our viewers with one picture, and this is this, a climatard.You may not have come across it, but a climatard is a person that believes that climate can be changed by paying a CO tax to the government.Don't believe it, it is nonsense.Ben, I appreciate you coming along always. Love chatting with you.Thank you so much for your time this evening.Thanks, Peter. It's a great honour to be invited back. I'm gonna go off now and smoke a cigar.
I feel like doing the same.To our viewers and listeners, thank you so much for tuning in, whether you're watching on any of the platforms or watching later on BitChute Odysee or listening on Podbean around the podcasting apps, listening on the go.Thank you so much for being part of the conversation. And on Monday, we have, I'm just looking at my list, Tina Ramirez, who is standing in the Virginia Senate.I met her last year, absolutely phenomenal individual, what she's done for religious freedom, liberty, all around the world for decades.And she is standing, bringing her wealth of knowledge to the Senate there in Virginia.So tune in on Monday for her thoughts on a range of issues and what she is passionate about and why she is standing there in the State Senate in Virginia.But I wish you all a wonderful rest of your Saturday evening.Have a wonderful Sunday. I will be back with you on Monday.So thank you and good evening to you all.

Michele Bachmann - How the World Health Organization is Seeking to Control the Nation State

The World Health Organization have existed for 9 decades since the first World Health Assembly meeting in 1948. For much of this time they have been viewed as an organisation that focused on health and working with national governments for you and your families best interest. Michele Bachmann returns to Hearts of Oak to look at a very different side to the WHO, the one that was exposed to the public over the last 3 years. At the upcoming assembly in Geneva we will witness the biggest WHO power grab ever attempted where national governments and the interests of countries will be urged to submit their sovereignty to the WHO. But have they overplayed their hand? With the Gates Foundation and the CCP being exposed as the 2nd and 3rd biggest funders, will the public see through this power grab. Join us this episode for Michele's expert analysis.Michele Bachmann is the dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University and was born in Waterloo, Iowa. She received a B.A. in Political Science and English from Winona State University in 1978. She married Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist who holds a master’s degree from Regent University. In 1986, she received a Juris Doctor degree from Oral Roberts University. She was a member of the ORU law school’s final graduating class, and was part of a group of faculty, staff, and students who moved the ORU law school library to Regent University. Two years later, she completed a Master of Law in taxation at the College of William & Mary. She worked for four years as a lawyer for the Internal Revenue Service’s Office of Chief Counsel in St. Paul, Minnesota.Michele and her husband have five children. They also worked with a private foster care agency to house 23 children in their home during the 1990s. Their children were home schooled and also attended private Christian schools, and her political career stemmed from her interest in education reform.In 2000, Michele defeated a long-time moderate incumbent for a state senate seat in Minnesota. In 2006, she entered the race to represent her suburban Minneapolis congressional district, winning 52 percent of the vote, becoming the first Republican woman from Minnesota elected to the House of Representatives. She easily won re-election in 2008 and 2010.Michele's extensive career highlights include:She was the first Republican woman from Minnesota elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.Michele served as a United States Congresswoman representing Minnesota’s 6th District from 2007 to 2015.She quickly became a national figure in the Republican Party and a founding member of the congressional Tea Party Caucus.In 2011, Michele announced her bid for the Republican presidential nomination and ran for president in 2012 and is a highly respected leader who is deeply committed to conservative values in government.Regent Universityhttps://www.regent.edu/Interview recorded 24.4.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview, coming up with Michele Bachmann, who was with us a couple of weeks ago, and she joins us this time to talk about the WHO, the World Health Organization. It's an organization which she has been concerned about and following for quite a while. Obviously, we have seen it come to prominence during the last three years, but Michelle joins us to look into the workings of it. We look at the finance, Bill and Melinda Gates Organization Foundation are I think the second highest funders of it, the Chinese Communist Party are the third highest. Make of that what you will. So we discussed that and the control and power play behind that and then the clash between national governments and the WHO. The WHO seems to be a massive power play on control of the health services and sector and drugs within all countries and coming up next month in Geneva is the 76th World Health Assembly meeting in Geneva and this happened since 1948. It's the governing group body in effect of the WHO and they'll be meeting to propose a number of issues. One which is for the WHO to take full control of health inany pandemic. We discuss what that means, is this control, and then also we touch on the digital IDs of the WHO, who are very fond off on how that will affect us all. So Michele brings experience from her political background, her educational background, and I know you will be inspired as you listen to her opening the door on this issue and inspiring us to actually respond in an effective away so this does not happen.
 
Michele Bachmann, thank you so much for joining us once again.
(Michele Bachmann)
Peter, it's always great to be with you. I enjoy being on Hearts of Oak.Thank you so much. And last time we obviously discussed education and if the viewers don't know, Michele is a former member of Congress and current Dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University down there in Virginia. And the last time we had a conversation was all to do with the education and pushing back that woke wave.But I know that there is an issue that you also feel passionate about, as well as education, and that is a concern on the WHO, on the World Health Organization. And we've heard a lot about that, I think, over the last three years, I guess people maybe before may have been unfamiliar with the WHO. So maybe ask you personally, why is this an area of interest? Was there a particular, time or point or bill or something that happened that made you aware the WHO were maybe not what what they seem to be.Well, just so people know what the WHO is, it's the World Health Organization. It is the health care arm of the United Nations. And so for many people, the United Nations really is not a, big figure in their lives. They hope that they're doing good things to keep peaceful relations between countries. But other than that, people don't think too much about the United Nations.And the World Health Organization, we've always seen them as an organization that can maybe try and do good, especially in poor countries where they don't have money for healthcare so that they could help, for instance, with maternal, positive maternal outcomes for pregnancies, for young babies that are just born, dealing with diseases where the nation doesn't have enough money.Everyone is on board with that. Nations are happy to give money toward that so that other nations have positive outcomes for their people.So when we think of the World Health Organization, those are the kind of hopes you might say that we infuse into the organization, that we hope they are doing.But we saw something very different, Peter, about three years ago or so with the outbreak of the COVID pandemic.And with that, then we saw the World Health Organization in a completely different light.Well, tell us, it is that three years that probably weren't on people's radar.The UN people are aware of, but there are many other organisations that happen really behind the scenes and people are unaware of the effect they have on their everyday life.And I'm looking over the last three years, I'm wondering whether the WHO have overplayed their hand, because I guess they're an organisation that have thrived in the shadows and now they're front and centre and people are aware of them.And I kind of wonder whether they've overplayed their hand.
Well, quite honestly, it's bewildering to me how much power they were infused with. Andthis wasn't actual power. This was imputed power. What do I mean by that?Here in the United States, I can give you our example here. Our government, led by President Joe Biden, looked to the WHO, and whatever recommendation the WHO, the World Health Organization gave regarding COVID, our United States Centers for Disease Control, the director was a woman named Rachel Walensky, the World Health Organization is run by a man, his first name is Tedros, his last name is something like Galbraithius, he's from Ethiopia. He has a very controversial checkered history, he was involved in a lot of collusion cover up, allegedly, in Ethiopia. And so, of course, the way these things work, these peopleoften are plucked out of that position and they fail up, so to speak. So they're put in a position with even more responsibility. That's what happened to Tedros. He was made the director general of the World Health Organization. So, you know, no cry, no foul. Nobody really cared about it until along came COVID. And the United States of America is the number one funder of the World Health Organization. The number two funder of the World Health Organization, interestingly, is a man named Bill Gates. Many people may know the name of the billionaire Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world. He was the founder of Microsoft. The third funder of World Health Organization is the Communist Party of China.So the interesting thing is that Tedros, who himself is a communist, seems to be controlled by the number three funder at the World Health Organization, not the number one funder, but by the number three, and arguably also by the number two funder, Bill Gates. And so the World Health Organization then, unbelievably, was lifted up to a point where whatever their pronouncements were for the last three years. Here in the United States, our President Joe Biden took the World Health Organization pronouncements, and those recommendations went to our Centers for Disease Control, which is not a regulatory body, which has no power of enforcement, but they took the recommendations of the WHO, and then the CDC made those same recommendations. But weirdly, somewhere in the ether, those recommendations were treated as though they were law, as though our Congress had passed them, and the president had signed them into law. None of that happened.Congress never passed a law regarding COVID. They never passed a law regarding the recommendations of the WHO. And yet, here in the United States, people were forced to stay home for 15 days.They weren't allowed out of their houses. I can't even believe I'm saying that, thinking back three years ago, what we all willingly did, how naive were we?And after that, then businesses were told they were not allowed to open.So what did that mean? That meant for two weeks, people didn't have a pay check. For two weeks, employers didn't have employees. For two weeks, there was no incoming monies for the GDP. That's millions and millions of dollars, billions of dollars that never got made. Well, what was going to happen? Well, in that extraordinary circumstance that had never happened before in the United States saw extraordinary actions. These actions were led by whatever it was that the World Health Organization said. Here we are, arguably the greatest military and economic superpower nation on earth, and we're bowing down and kowtowing to whatever this Tedros, who heads up the World Health Organization is saying, it's kind of an interesting phenomenon that the United States would do something like that. It's almost like you could imagine a scenario where communist China, who seeks domination all across the world, who has their infamous Silk and Road Initiative, where they are trying to dominate the ancient Silk Road pattern, the trade routes that went across.India and the Stans and making their way into Europe.Also it has a Silk and Road initiative trying to go through the Latin American countries and South America but also now through the United States.And it seems that they wanted to do the actions that were being pronounced for ones that would bring about economic ruination to the West, to the United States to the European nations, to Australia, to New Zealand.It was very odd.The COVID, the spread of COVID seemed to hit the West extremely hard. So it was after a while, it seemed inescapable to reach the conclusion that communist China seemed to be benefiting from COVID, while the rest of the world seemed to be hurt by COVID. But the WHO, the World Health Organization, seemed to be the vehicle that was being used to make pronouncements as phony and as detrimental as they were, and then countries in the West magically bowed down and did whatever the World Health Organization said. At least that's what happened here in the United States, including, Peter, social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Google. We saw that here in America, people were thrown off of their social media accounts. They were cancelled if they disagreed with what the World Health Organization said. As a matter of fact, these social media companies, including Google, would put up a notification that their standard for knowledge and information was the World Health Organization. And if anyone disagreed with them, they would be thrown off. And the same was true of the United States government. Their standard was the World Health Organization. There was no legal requirement for this. They didn't have to do this, but they chose, they imputed power to the World Health Organization, even though over and over again, the World Health Organization contradicted the recommendations.The recommendations were found to be faulty afterwards. They were, they pretended.The people who cried the loudest pretended to always say, the science, the science, we're following the science.When as a matter of fact, they chose to silence free inquiry and scientists who were not finding the same results as the World Health Organization.Any opinion that deviated in any way from the World Health Organization was not only silenced, they were also accused of being misinformation and they were blackmailed. They were censored. Here in America, doctors were thrown out of positions in medical schools if they disagreed with the World Health Organization's opinion.I think if you could step back about 50 steps and take a look objectively at what's happened the last three years, people would be aghast. But unfortunately, the media hasn't done that.There hasn't really been allowed, at least in America, an overview of all of the mistakes that have happened in the last three years. I'll give you one example. I just read an article this morning about the incredible damage that mask wearing did to people, whether they were old or whether they were young. And what they found is that within five minutes of wearing a mask, damage already began to individuals.Up to and including the stillborn birth of unborn babies to pregnant women.Little children had cognitive damage from the build-up of CO2 hurting their brain functioning.There are all sorts of issues that have come out and that's just mask wearing, let alone the vaccines, let alone other things like lockdowns that were encouraged by the WHO and were implemented by the WHO.Probably in America, nothing was more damaging than the shutdown of economic activity in our nation. We saw literally trillions of dollars take wings and fly away because they were unearned.And we also printed money that we didn't have. We spent money that we didn't have. We're continuing to do that. And here in the United States, we have a contagion of inflation.That is very difficult.It's a tiger by the tail. It's hurting the poorest in the United States and the middle class, and it's inhibiting the creation of new start-ups and new businesses.So the WHO, an innocuous healthcare arm of the United Nations has a lot to answer for.But unfortunately, in the structure of the United Nations, there doesn't appear to be an accountability structure.And it appears that just like the fellow who's heading the WHO, Tedros, failed up.He was rewarded with failure from Ethiopia.It appears now that the World Health Organization also will be granted benefits and even more empowered after their failures.And so they may also soon fail up as well with even more power, more control over more people across the earth.Oh, well, Tedros has been rewarded with another five years in charge, so things are not going to get any better.There are a whole lot of those things you come to like pick you up on.But one is the social media. We have been amazed that actually it is discussing COVID that affects you on social media.I personally thought having a robust conversation on Islam or have a robust conversation on the gender nonsense would.But actually it was it was COVID and of course you've been on Mark Steyn's show many times and Mark Steyn was removed from GB News through Ofcom, the regulatory body in the UK on communications because he talked to those who were vaccine injured. And I'm wondering, you looking at the States, is there a way through that or are social media companies going to hold that over us all, that if we talk out of line then immediately people will be punished.Where does that leave a free and open conversation?
Well, it's stifled here in the United States. We have what is called the First Amendment protections.We have our Constitution of the United States, and we have what's called is the Bill of Rights.This is in the Constitution. It's equal to the Constitution.And America is built on the fact that our government is supposed to have very limited powers.The people are supposed to have an expansive set of powers, and those powers are guaranteed by the Bill of Rights, the first being freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, freedom of worship and religious expression, the right to petition our government, the right to gather together and assemble.Those are all a part of the First Amendment freedoms and including our Second Amendment, which is the right to keep and bear arms, guns, for the right to protect yourself.And when the founders passed the Second Amendment, it was so that the people could protect themselves against the government.That was the intention. So we have 10 of those amendments of rights.And what we've seen is that there's a new cohort of people in the United States, many of whom have obtained positions of power, and those people don't agree with what we have as our constitutional rights.And so we're seeing not only the threat to those rights in law, but in practice.And we've seen it most particularly through social media, where we are no longer allowed to have free speech.And as a matter of fact, it's even worse because people are told if they disagree with the the state line.That they are giving misinformation. In other words, they're harming the public.By giving an opinion that digresses from government. And I think you've had to deal with that in the United Kingdom as well. And it's egregious because it is anti-science.It is anti-freedom. Quite frankly, it is anti-human. Because if you look at the carnage, for instance, the fallout that happened from wearing masks, from being forced to get a vaccine when you didn't want to, but your livelihood depended on it, so you felt you had to. And then, despite everything that we were told, that we would be instantaneously cured of COVID if we take a vaccine. We would never go to a hospital. We wouldn't transmit the virus. We wouldn't die from it. Every one of those claims was proved false. And even more egregious than that, the number of people that we're seeing over and over the excess deaths, if you will, in the United Kingdom, in America, anywhere that these vaccines were pushed, people's lives are continuing to be harmed by what's happened. And there's been no review. There's been no honest, transparent review of what happened during those three years. We're still going through that.Here in the United States, Peter, there are colleges that still mandate that students must get vaccinated before they come into college. And this is after even the CDC director, the Centers for Disease Control director, Rachel Walensky, just this last week admitted, yes, you can still transmit COVID. You can still get COVID even if you take a vaccine. Well, what was this thing worth?What was it worth? Especially when you see the people who are physically harmed after taking this vaccine. So I think we need to move our compassion toward those who are trying, who are we're believing?Just on face value with the government and what the World Health Organization, what the CDC said, they just said, okay, well, they must be looking out for my welfare.Well, we don't wanna impugn motives if the CDC or the WHO was or wasn't looking out for people's welfare, that we don't know.But what we do know is the objective fact of what happened to people's lives.And there's ongoing carnage continually from these lockdowns, mask mandates, vaccines, all of the restrictions that happen, we're continuing to deal with the downstream impacts of it. And it is devastating, probably one of the worst public policy failures in human history.
 
One thing on the damage for going on to say some more more with the WHO. I was with a friend today from, who's over from the States and his business is property. He was talking about the ghost towns are being created across America. I mean generally in Europe we've had a, probably the majority have returned to work, to an office, but still you have some working from home. But he was giving me a picture of how bad it is of people working from home and then the damage that's causing to towns and cities across the country and then I guess the bankruptcy that's going to happen with property spaces not being filled and banks having to, I mean it's it seems to time bomb I mean what is it what is it like in the U.S. have people returned to the workplace or are they still working from home?Well, you're right. It is a huge problem. A lot of people who got used to being able to be at home so they could answer the door, take the dog out, throw the laundry in, throw it in the dryer.People just got used to that, not having to dress up for work, not having to commute.A lot of people like that. So in some ways, the positive is that some businesses saw that they don't have to take on the expense of leasing office space. They can get just as much productivity from employees at home. However, a lot of businesses have seen we don't get as much productivity from our employees who are at home. Plus, what we're really missing is that magic that happens when people come together and they talk to each other and they get ideas and they exchange information that they wouldn't have known otherwise. That just doesn't happen in a Zoom call or a Zoom meeting. And so there's a lot of interactions that no longer happen. I know.You know, in the United States in major metropolitan city after major metropolitan city, you hear of huge downtown office buildings, that no longer are being filled like you had mentioned in the UK and it's happening here as well.If I could just deviate for one second, when you opened your remarks, it reminded me of something else that happened.And that was, it was extraordinary when COVID hit that landlords who own apartment buildings or own smaller units that they leased out.Landlords were prohibited from evicting tenants if they couldn't pay their rent.And so here a landlord was not relieved of the duty to pay taxes or insurance or a mortgage, but they weren't allowed to evict anyone.So this went on for months and months and months and months and months.How do you penalize one business, one portion of the business sector, It's just unbelievable the confusion. So then you look at landlords of huge office buildings.I'll give you one example. Maybe people have heard of the corporation Target.That is from Minneapolis, Minnesota. So this is a huge department store in America and Target Corporation leased all sorts of office space in downtown Minneapolis.Well, there were a lot of riots that happened after George Floyd.That people in the UK heard of the George Floyd situation. And so Minneapolis downtown became very dangerous.People don't, employees don't wanna go downtown plus COVID.So now we see office building after office building.The largest hotel in Minneapolis couldn't make money because you remember hotels were shuttered because of the World Health Organization. And in our case in America, the CDC.So the largest hotel in downtown Minneapolis went up on auction because they couldn't make it anymore.So hotels, office buildings, then you have the guy trying to shine shoes, and then the guy trying to sell coffee, and then the local diners.And so what we're seeing is an absolute implosion in metropolitan areas.And metropolitan areas are like the tent post holding up a tent.And then you've got all the suburban areas.So that impacts real estate, people's abilities to buy homes, sell homes.So this is all continuing to happen. We're three plus years on.And these horrible decisions made by these bureaucrats at the World Health Organization with no accountability, and at the Centers for Disease Control in America with no accountability, and I'm sure for you it's the NIH, the National Institute of Health.These decisions are continuing to go on.Let me give you one more example.And this is one that we're not used to in the United States.We've always had very high quality health care in the United States.But now in the United States, you'd call, you'd make an appointment, you'd probably get in to see your doctor the same day.Now it's not like that. Now we have to wait weeks, in some cases months, to get in to see a doctor.That has never happened before in the United States.Now we're seeing waiting times on being able to get in And we've primarily been a private healthcare system, which has worked beautifully.The more government has gotten involved in our healthcare system, the worst it's gotten, the more expensive it's gotten, the more the times are lengthening.So the World Health Organization, from my perspective, caused a chain reaction of events that we're continuing to be harmed from today.And so that's why, Peter, again, it's so dangerous, the proposals that are on the table, to empower them even more after their failure?One area you talked about was the clash, the power of the WHO.Before we look in the funding in China, but simply that clash between national governments and their responsibility for their population and the WHO.And maybe in Europe, we have had that control above national governments in the European Union.But by and large, you don't really have the World Trade Organization doesn't have that much power in relation to what was in the WHO.So, I mean, it's it is concerning that every country seems to have to, well, fall into line or to bow down to the WHO's latest edict.And I wonder where that leaves nations like the US, like other nations, that independent, that supporting what is best for their populations, that seems to have gone out the window and the WHO seems to be the one that kind of plays the tune and countries have to dance to it.Well, we can blame the WHO, but really what we have to do is blame our own political leaders.I can't blame the WHO today entirely because they are a recommendation and advisory only body.That's it. So they can give advice. And the 194 member nations of the World Health Organization, There's about 200 nations in the world and 194 are members of the World Health Organization.So those nations don't have to follow those dictates if they don't want to, because the WHO only issues recommendations. The problem is our leaders, our leader, President Joe Biden, who took whatever the WHO said as gospel and forced that onto our our healthcare system, our centres for disease control, and then our national health grants, and our Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx, the ones who were standing up and telling Americans, you must do this, you must do that, even as silly as Dr. Fauci coming out on stage, wearing not one mask, not two masks, three masks, in some cases, four masks. It's like, this was theatre.This was theatre when he would come out and wear these masks.Especially in light of the evidence that was available before on masks, but even now more profound after COVID, how damaging and worthless these masks are.Not one of those masks could stop the prevention of COVID.So what was the point? Why did people have to sit for eight hours on an airplane flight wearing a mask when all it did is hurt the passenger? It didn't save anyone else on that plane.So this is the kind of nonsense we've had to deal with.And now there's an effort by our political leader. You know, you have your political leaders and what they've imposed on your population.Our political leader, Joe Biden, empowered, he didn't have to, he empowered the World Health Organization.But now last year in 2022, the Biden administration offered 29 amendments, to the World Health Assembly in Geneva, Switzerland.They meet annually once a year to change and radically alter the WHO.I'd like to say before that.During COVID, our president was Donald Trump, and Donald Trump saw the mess that was coming out of the World Health Organization. He saw a lot of the nonsense and a lot of the confusing contradictory pronouncements that they were making. So Donald Trump said, we're getting the United States out of the WHO. We're not going to stay in.So he pulled the funding for the WHO, and he also gave notice to the World Health Organization, to the UN, the United States will no longer be in. Well, the protocol that you have to follow is that it takes one year for a nation to fully pull out of the World Health Organization.As your audience knows, Donald Trump was not returned to the White House in 2020.Joe Biden became president of the United States. So on the very first day that Joe Biden became president, he put the United States back into the World Health Organization, and he restored all of their funding.And from there, he empowered them even more, to the point of offering and he's been the aggressor, he's been the lead, President Biden, to offer these amendments at the World Health Assembly, the World Health Assembly is the governing organization that governs the WHO. So the WHO is the UN organization, but the governing board is the World Health Assembly. And they meet once a week, the last week of May in Geneva, Switzerland. This has been going on since 2005.
But curiously the amendments that were being offered would completely transfer the World Health Organization away from being an advisory only body to becoming an international regulatory body.And in some respects, these amendments are so incredibly strong, it would create a platform in the World Health Organization for a global system of government, so that the World Health Organization would be empowered to declare a public health emergency of international concern.Well, what's that? That means that the WHO would have the power to declare a global emergency.And then they would be empowered to set the standard and to put the orders out for what each nation has to do, whether it's lockdowns, whether it's masking, whether it's vaccinations, whether it's all of the PPP that people had to come up with.They could even order a country to supply PPP, pay for it, supply it to other countries.So this would be a redistribution of wealth. This is an absolutely jaw-dropping increase of power that they would have.This would affect the budgets of various countries, but it would impact the freedom that people have.These amendments are also stating what could be said and what couldn't be said in countries on healthcare.So if we thought that we were restricted on speech during this last pandemic, this would be globally enforced, what we can say and what we couldn't say.Every nation would be expected to toe the exact same line. Because remember, in Sweden, they didn't shut down their schools. Kids went to school in Sweden.Whereas in America, kids had to stay home. So this is an absolutely jaw-dropping level of power that the Biden administration tried to push.Now with those amendments in 2022, a few African nations pushed back.Thank God for these African nations like Botswana.They said, we don't wanna go along with these amendments.So they didn't go through last year.So now behind the scenes, President Joe Biden.And other nations have gotten together, and they're kind of spreading these amendments around with other countries.And I've got a video clip, actually I can send to you, Peter.And it's a video clip of the foreign minister from Indonesia meeting last November, the first week of November in 2022 at the B20.There's the G20 and the B20, the top 20 businesses.And this foreign minister said quite clearly that what they're planning to do is pass the international health rule amendments in Geneva, Switzerland in May of 2023.And that would change the World Health Organization. So they would be empowered to tell all nations on earth and all people on earth what they must do.And one of the first things they want to do is demand that every person on earth get a digital identity that would be on their phone.We'd all have our own digital identity and we would each be assigned a QR code.And what he was saying is this will be so great. Now we all don't have to stay home and be restricted from being able to travel. Those who do what they're told will be allowed to get on a plane.They'll be allowed to buy groceries at the grocery store or go to a hardware store, or they'll be allowed to buy things or get on public transportation.But woe be to those who don't follow with what the World Health Organization says.Their life is basically over. This has never happened before in human history.This has never happened. What country in their right mind would empower the World Health Organization, basically the UN, to become a platform for global governance?The last thing we would give the UN is power and more money or a military or the ability for taxation.You would never do that because here in the United States, as we've seen, our rights infringed by our own government and by corporations. Can you imagine? There are no rights when the UN controls the world. They're the rights. Whatever the elites want, that's what they get. So you're talking essentially global dictatorship.And the president of the United States is pushing this and the leaders of various foreign countries are pushing this.So this is a two track approach, Peter. One is through a global pandemic treaty, which is far more difficult to get adopted, but it is a possibility.The other track approach is changing these amendments at the World Health Assembly in Geneva, Switzerland.That's a far easier proposition because that's basically majority rule and you can get it through.And so that's why we're very concerned. Now, in the rules of the World Health Assembly nations have 18 months to opt out, but I'm telling you, you don't want to get to that point.You don't want something like this to pass. And then you've got to try and figure out how to get out of it.You just don't want it to pass in the first place.And you would know better than anyone, your country has dealt with Brexit and the empowerment of the EU over your decisions in your nations.And so now imagine that breath-taking level of control going to the World Health Organization with the UN.So this is the World Health Alliance next month meeting in in Geneva, and my huge concern, you talked about funding with with the Bill and Melinda Gates organization being number two and then with China being number three.And you wonder what lies behind this push, because the call will be that it will make our lives easier.And convenience is a double-edged sword in many ways.But where, because then when you look at the digital ID, you're looking at the intrusion of AI.And obviously Bill Gates has a lot of experience in the tech world and branching out into all of the vaccines and the farming.And then China, it seems as though You've got some organisations that are, I guess, being forced along.But other organisations or countries are more intentional.China seems to be intentional with what it's doing, as does the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, where other countries seem to be, I guess, useful idiots, kind of caught along. So tell us kind of about that power play that's happening?
 
Well, it's honestly, this isn't very difficult to figure out and see what's going on. It's control.There are some people in this world who are are just control freaks and they they tend to be extremely wealthy.We've got a lot of them in the United States. Mark Zuckerberg, who has Facebook now called Meta.He's one of them. And Bill Gates, who has Microsoft, and he was an early funder in vaccines.And now he's buying up farmland, and he is a very interesting character, Bill Gates, but he's not the only one. There are other people who are interested in being able to increase their level of control and perhaps even their own bottom line. They have their own ideas about how we should be living our lives, and it isn't necessarily in line with our interests.These people really fundamentally hate the idea of democracy. They hate the idea of people being able to choose the leaders to serve them, but then also the way that they live and the laws that they live under. They think they know better. This is a global nanny state that they're looking to create, but it's global control. So this isn't hard to figure out because if you look at the the entire, we have 5,000 years of recorded human history.And if you look at that history, there's a lot of ugly, bloody efforts where people, history is man's attempt to enslave man, to control mankind for their own best interests.And it's the idea of faith and religion in particular, the faith of the Bible where you kind of see that the story play out, where you have another way other than madmen controlling other men.And God, through the Bible, talks about freedom for men, and various governments were created because people were enlightened by that image of men being free.This worldview that we're seeing with trying to lift up and enlarge the power structure of the World Health Organization, primarily the UN is what we're talking about, that is not that structure, looking to empower people or to enhance freedom or have better options for people or better health care for people. That's not what this is.This is about more control for a very small group of people and less control for the rest of us. So it's easy to see what will happen. We all become serfs in a modern morality tale where we're the losers and very few people are the winners.
 
Can I just finish looking at the political response just last question on it because obviously this is the WHO are wanting this global push and control over each and every country and certainly in the US it doesn't matter if you've got one state which is red, one state which is blue, that kind of removes that advantage when when you have a large organization like this overarching countries.So does this, is this a pushback from the Republicans there in the States?And we look to you because we don't have, we have bright sparks of conservative movements breaking out across Europe, we do.Certainly in Sweden, in Hungary, in Italy, possibly in Austria.So there are things happening, but what does it mean for the U.S. politically?Politically, what it means is people, this issue hasn't been a high profile issue by design.The Biden administration has tried to down pedal this. They've really tried to go under the radar so no one knew what was going on. But there are some people who know. And I don't know if your listeners know, I mean, here in America, we are losing more and more rights every day to freedom of speech and expression, which again, from the inception of our nation is unknown. We've always had the rights to freedom of speech and expression, but we're seeing them squelch, particularly through social media companies. But people are finding out. So in America, because we are a constitutional republic where people can contact their representatives and let them know what they think, people are letting their senators and representatives know, we, don't want Joe Biden's plans to succeed. We don't want the World Health Organization to to take over our sovereign choices on healthcare.We wanna keep our choices on healthcare.So people are trying to get that message out. It's tough, it's a tough environment to get that message, but we're always hopeful. The one thing about Americans, they tend to be very optimistic.And just like we saw last year, it was literally a miracle where countries like Botswana and some African nations pushed back and stopped this from passing.They raised real concerns. There's no reason why people can't contact their representatives in the UK, in England, in Scotland, in Wales, in other nations throughout Europe to let your country know you have a vote.Every single country has a vote. There's 194 votes.Every country can register opposition and say, look, we're not giving over sovereignty to the World Health Organization.Because trust me, it won't be just healthcare, it will expand.And for instance, there's some language that I've read in the global pandemic treaty, but also with the healthcare amendments in Geneva, Switzerland, where they're saying that if a country is deemed to be racist, that that would be considered a health problem, or from climate change, if something is deemed to be climate change, the World Health Organization steps in. So it's about two steps away from world government. That's really what this is. So don't delude yourself into thinking this is only about trying to help poor countries during a pandemic. This has nothing to do with that. This is all about empowering a global entity. So this global entity will be able to force all governments to do its bidding.And the number one question I get, Peter, from people is, well, Michele, this would never happen because if the World Health Organization told our country to do something that we didn't want to do, our government wouldn't go along with it. Well, if Joe Biden is the lead instigator of handing over this sovereignty to the World Health Organization, I think he will be the enforcer because we will lose massive rights.And if there's one thing that history teaches us, it's this.Once you give up power, once you lose freedom, it's very difficult to get it back.And when it comes back, if it comes back, it's in a very different form.So a country like the United States was very unique when it was founded.And we've seen our own freedoms and our own rights chipped away to an extent that people in the United States, frankly, don't even recognize our country anymore.And we've been the nation that people have looked to, to help safeguard their rights. If the United States is no longer open and free and able to help safeguard other nations' rights, then where do we go. We all see what's happening, this is no clandestine story.
Communist China has very clear designs on ruling the world. Just a couple of weeks ago, Xi Jinping was in Moscow with Putin, and he said, we will rule the new global order, the new global alliance. He said it three times during his visit. And again, if history teaches us anything, it's when a madman speaks, listen, Xi Jinping is stating the obvious, and he wouldn't state it unless he felt China was at the threshold of being able to accomplish this. They see the United States as past tense. They see themselves not only at the ascendancy, but just about to grab the brass ring of global domination. And part of that domination is having the 194 nations blindly and voluntarily give up their sovereignty on health care to the World Health Organization.Because Communist China knows they control the organization anyway, and then they can project their power to dominate the rest of the globe and be the true hegemon, the true leader globally if we have foolishly given away our power to the World Health Organization.And then just recognize the world will never be in the same place. So this isn't just doom and gloom despair. That's not what I'm saying. The reason why I'm saying this is we're free men, free women. At least that's what the advertising is. We're free men, free women. And so we've got to do what prior generations have done. We have to act. We have to make our voices heard, but we have to let our own governments know.And if a country like Botswana could have tipped the tide last year, why couldn't England this year? Why couldn't Wales this year?Why couldn't Scotland this year?Or Ireland or any other country? Of course we can.And so we're trying to get to every person that we can here in the United States, even though Republicans aren't in charge, it's the Democrats that are in charge, but we still have a voice and we can still pray.I'm a Christian, I believe in the God of the Bible, I pray, he's performed miracles when everything is impossible, there's a miracle.And so I think there's always room for optimism, always room for joy and hope.And we cry out to the God who created us and we ask him to deliver us.
It's a perfect end and I've seen miracles many times in my life, I attest to that, Michele, when God steps in and does what is impossible makes it possible. But thank you for, this is a huge subject and just happening next month in Geneva and the viewers need to be aware of it. So thank you for coming along and sharing what's happening. And I think it is a rallying call for people to act, to engage with their elected officials and encourage them to vote properly at that assembly. So thank you so much for your time, Michele.You're welcome. And Peter, it's not over until it's over. A lot of people that evil designs before and they were foiled. This one could be foiled too.

James Harvey - Students Against Tyranny: Stop Discriminating Against Non-Woke Students

Our education system is changing rapidly and the once vital skills of debate and reason have been washed away with a fear of offence and disagreement. James Harvey is our guest today and he is a student who has had to stand his ground. It would have been so much easier to fit into the woke madness and keep his head down, but that's not James. He has bravely stood for common sense, reason and debate in his university so he joins Hearts of Oak to discuss his experiences and also to talk about how and why he set up Students Against Tyranny.James Harvey is a 19 year old who is the founder of Students Against Tyranny, a platform to connect like-minded students so they don’t feel so isolated and alone in their beliefs.He is also a proud journalist for Voice of Wales and the host of the Thursday evening show on Unity News Network.Follow James on social media.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/vowjamesTwitter: https://twitter.com/JamesHarvey2503?s=20Follow and support Students Against Tyranny.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/SATOfficialTwitter: https://twitter.com/SATOfficial_1?s=20Telegram: https://t.me/studentsagainsttyrannyofficialCatch James every Thursday at 8pm on Unity News Networkhttps://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/Originally broadcast live 24.4.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Today, we're going to look at education, which we've looked at in varying degrees, but this time, what it is like for those going through university at the moment.And it is wonderful to have James Harvey with us tonight. James, thank you so much for your time.
 
(James Harvey)I really appreciate you having me on.
Not at all. Watched you, what you're doing with Students Against Tyranny, obviously, seeing you on Voice of Wales, and you're there in the Voice of Wales set, well-known to us all.Obviously on Unity News. When are you on? Is it Tuesday or Thursday evenings?
Thursday evening at 8 p.m. on UNN.
So we'll catch you there. And your handle there at JamesHarvey2503.People can follow you on Twitter and find out what you're up to.Obviously you were at the fifth anniversary Unity News Network, and I saw a number of pictures you put up over those few days.
Yeah, it was absolutely brilliant. So I got to meet some people that I, you know, I've spoken to a lot online, never met them in person, like Siraj for example, correct not political, stuff like that. And it was just, it was an amazing couple of few days really. I mean, on the first day we went outside the Ministry of Defence and unrolled a banner. Straight after that, then we went to Parliament Square where I got to wave a placard around that said not a penny more to the Zelensky regime in front of all the Extinction Rebellion lot. And have a few conversations with them as well, because that's what it's all about, isn't it? Free speech and you know, ability to debate and I found that with groups like Extinction Rebellion, they're a lot more willing to have that conversation with you than say Antifa or stand up to racism. So yeah, I enjoyed it.
No, absolutely. And we're going to talk about your, maybe your background first. I know I followed the issues you've had, I guess being a conservative student, someone who believes right and wrong, common sense.You can't wake up and change your gender over your cornflakes or whatever area that we are being bombarded with.And I kind of watch my kids in school, but obviously at university, which is supposedly a bastion of free speech where your ideas are challenged, where you clash with other people and you come out a better person because you better understand issues.It is becoming very, very different. do you just want to give us a I guess a snapshot of what it has been like for you and the difficulty you have faced?
 
So I've faced a lot with my university but what I will say is that what I found through my research is that the highest ranked universities are often the most restrictive around free speech. If you're going to a university that focuses on your creativity over your academic ability, then usually that university is much better in terms of free speech. So for example, if you go to Cambridge or the Imperial College, where they're very highly ranked in the UK, they are very restrictive around free speech and they're more likely to punish you for wrong think and being outspoken in kind of conservative and liberal viewpoints.My university, which is Trinity St. David's in Swansea, is it focuses on creativity over academic ability.So I found that it's much better in terms of free speech. However, I have faced some issues along the way.So there was two videos, right?So there was one video where I basically talked about one of our teachers who'd made a student drop out by going on a rant about toxic masculinity and all this kind of this anti-man feminism stuff, right?And so I did a video talking about that. That got quite a lot of views on Twitter.And then I also, I remember they brought up a picture in my class of a Hindu woman standing up to a member of the EDL.And I'd taken like a five second video clip. You couldn't see anyone's faces.You couldn't hear anything. I was just showing exactly what was on the screen.And yeah, that got me in a lot of trouble with my university as well.So what they said is that I broke the lecture recording policy and I put student lives in danger.By publicizing it pretty much, right?So I had an email basically telling me they were gonna instigate disciplinary procedures against me which I immediately got in touch with Neil McCrae from the workers of England, who's a brilliant man.And if any students are watching and you are looking for a good union to join, head over to Workers of England.They do a student discount, which is about 48 quid a year. And they're very helpful and very good at dealing with these kinds of situations.Now at first, over email, they were basically telling me that I wasn't allowed legal representation in the meeting.So they wanted it just to be me on my own. I'd fought against this and I said, nope, I'm going to bring someone anyway.Now, the words that we're using, by the way, and Julie, who's watching, I was kind of going back and forth with her about this. The words that we're using was, we don't normally allow legal professionals. We don't advise it.So they're not telling me I can't do it. They're saying, well, we don't suggest it, right?But they're very careful in the words that they use. So I actually attended one of these meetings with my, I managed to, I basically brought in my lawyer anyway, Neil McCrae.I am entitled to legal representation, whether they say I am or not. And so I brought him into the meeting with us andit went much better than I was expecting. They just asked me to remove the videos.Because there was another part of it as well, they said I was causing the university reputational damage. Now that's an interesting point because there's an article in Wales Online called University of Wales Trinity St David's warns that students spreading COVID misinformation could face disciplinary action. So they'd given a statement to Wales Online admitting that I studied there. No one knew I went to that university before they admitted it, so it's their fault thatpeople know I go there. And so if they were so concerned, they wouldn't have given, a statement. They wouldn't have. That's just how it is, right? And so because they'd admitted that I went there, I thought, you know what, it's okay to do videos about my university, right, as you would rightly think. And so, you know, I did these videos not thinking I was getting into trouble. Now, I have removed the videos because unfortunately, otherwise I will be kicked, out. That's what they're saying. So it ended up being no further action, just as long as the the videos were removed.Yeah.
 
I mean, tell me that,because I've talked to others in uni and they basically keep their head down, keep quiet, don't want to rock the boat, think that actually the be-all and end-all of life is a degree.That's not necessarily, no, that is a part of the jigsaw, let's say that. But what do you say to others who just think actually, you know, I can't really speak on these issues, I can be an activist I can engage later on, but I just need to concentrate on these three, four years of my life.
Yeah, well, it's the thing. I mean, a lot of young people, as everyone knows, you know, it's kind of the, um, it's the stereotype of university students right now. Um, that's where it's a very left wing, like you should be left wing. If you're not left wing, there's something wrong with you. That's the kind of dominated belief on a lot of universities. Right, now.The thing is that those who are socialists are those who have read Carl. No. Yeah. Those who are socialists are those who have read Marx and Lenin, right? But those who are anti-socialist are the ones who understand Marx and Lenin, right? Once you read, like for example, with Marx, right, if you read his earlier work, he was a lot more liberal than later on, right? He became far more radicalized during the later periods, right? And so, you know, Marxism is obviously world domination for historical materialism. They attach labels to you like far-right, racist, homophobic, bigots, whatever, in order to shut you up. Yeah, that's that's why they do it. But I think you'll find that there's a quite a silent majority of people who disagree with communism in universities, right? Disagree with the the left's beliefs, right? I found a lot more right wing students than I first thought I would. There's like, for example, there's quite a few Tommy Robinson supporters on my course, right? And that's not something you would expect among university campuses, right?
Love it.
 
It is amazing to see that, right? And they loved my t-shirt as well, because I wore a black and white Unite t-shirt with all the pictures of Tommy and his black mates.So the thing is, the labels only have power if you give them power, right? Like, I couldn't care these days, right? At first, yeah, I cared. Now, I really don't. I mean, we were called far-right extremists the other day in an article from Nation Cymru, and then they used as the face of the Students Against Tyranny far-right was an old lady with a sign that says no to 15-minute cities, right? And this lady, I had a conversation with her, she was a God-fearing woman, right? And so these labels, they shouldn't bother you, right? They're just, at the end of it, at the end of the day, they're just words, right? And I think for me in particular, you know, I'm willing, as long as students, as long as what I'm saying gives students the confidence to speak up, then I'm willing to risk my future employment or whatever and so anyone who's watching who's afraid of the labels don't be don't be they're just words yeah um Marxism only works when you let these labels bother you if if you start speaking up and you you kind of ignore the labels ignore the far right nonsense right then Marxism would never work right would never thrive yeah um so yeah that's that's my advice to anyone watching
 
Okay, sounds good, good advice. Students Against Tyranny, you started Students Against Tyranny as a way of pushing back against the fascism, the censorship, the restrictions that we see.Tell us about what your thoughts were on starting up, because again, people can, be vocal, can speak, it does take time and energy and most people watching don't realise the work it entails building an organization from the ground up. You're not, you weren't dropped into something ready-made. You actually have to build it. So tell us about that idea first of Students Against Tyranny and then about building that up.
 
So it all started with Anna Brees and I know I hate the name as well, right? But she was doing a photo shoot for a website, right?Again, vaccinepassports.com. So I went down there back then, right? She wasn't as bad and as hated as she is now. And I understandably hated as well, but I'd sat down, but after the photo shoot, we were all at the pub and she, you know, I sat down with her and I did an interview in that interview. I said, what was it? If you allow the government to break the law and to violate your rights because of an emergency, what's stopping them from creating an emergency to break the law. And it went viral on Twitter, got a lot of views.I used that then to kind of launch my Twitter and a couple of days later I had the idea to start Students Against Tyranny. The main reason being is that a lot of people had kind of asked me beforehand when are the students going to start standing up, stuff like that, so I basically decided to start Students Against Tyranny. We started with a Crowdfunder which in the beginning raised a lot of money but I don't think people realize how quickly money goes, especially when you're running a campaign group. It's like everything just costs so much money and especially with the cost of living crisis as well. The main thing is the traveling, isn't it? But it started as kind of a way to connect like-minded students so they didn't feel so alone and isolated in their beliefs and opinions, especially around the vaccine as well. We were very concerned that, because a lot of friends, you know, have the belief that you should take the vaccine, if you don't, you're killing other people. And you've got parents as well in the schooling system and you had medical students. The main idea was to kind of, if they had a social group to talk to, it would stop the peer pressure and they would decide not to get the vaccine rather than to get it. So that's the main reason why it started, right? But then I look at these groups like Youth for Freedom and Freedom for Teenagers, which is another two youth groups that exist, they're already for the social aspect of things. And then you look at other groups like Stand in the Park and stuff like that, and I kind of realized there is a lot of social groups out there for anyone. So I wanted to move away from that to activism. And so I slowly made that move into activism. Yeah, we did help the medical students at the time, we managed to get our legal letters to all of them. At the time, I think we had about 400 medical students joined Students Against Tyranny just to get the legal letters, which was absolutely fantastic.So we got out there. Sorry, I've lost my point. Yeah, so we kind of moved in the direction of activism. Then we started doing events. So April 9th, 2022, I believe it was, we did an event outside the Imperial College. Now at the time this was the first liberal student rally that had been done in quite a long time, I believe, in the UK.So we managed to get about 35 students and about 15 adults to support us, which doesn't sound like a lot, but when you're dealing with left-wing students and students who are scared to speak out, it's quite a large number in proportion. So we did that event, and for a while, you know, it's pretty much just being me and a small team on our own doing this stuff until Wes came along and Wes started doing outreach.And then we got invited to a rally with Ramis and a few other people, which was a youth outreach march.It was led by the youth, which is obviously, was also led by Nazrin, Jess Felicity, Luca, Wes, you know, Monty, some great, great people.And it kind of, there's a lot of young people came along to that event, which is brilliant because it allowed us to do a lot of outreach with them.And now we've started building up, especially recently, a very large team of young student activists who want to get more involved in the freedom movement, which is exactly what's needed.When the youth start stepping up, it's over for them. It is over for them, right?And it's good as well, right, because I post a lot of pictures with young individuals, you know, Students Against Tyranny, and it gives people a lot of hope as well.When they see the youngs- you know, a lot of people have been doing protests now for the past 20 years. When they see the young start standing up, it gives them hope and it gives them a reason to get involved again, because I don't know if you've seen it as well, a lot more people have become black pilled recently, where they believe there's no point of fighting, there's no point of protesting, and there's no point of doing anything.You know, the youth are standing up and it's, we need your support as well. So, I mean, we're in Manchester recently for a student who was discriminated against for his political beliefs. John Christian, we call him. So, we're at Manchester University. Now, as soon as I got there, because I got there an hour before, which was a bad mistake, because as soon as I got there, there was about 20 people, like our supporters, who were waiting there, and then you had 250 antifa start marching down the road right so they're all shouting fascist scum off our streets um accusing me of being a member of the BNP, now now anyone now anyone who knows anything about, students against tyranny we are, and I hate using this term but we are racially diverse right we're, black and white unite you know it's culture war not a race war that's our belief right um a bit like the EDL you know it's black and white unite the at the end of the day it's it's a culture war not a race war I believe the globalists want a race war so I'll stand with of anyone, doesn't matter what skin colour you are.You know, we all bleed the same blood of patriotism. That's my belief in that.But obviously, I'm very outspoken on other issues like Islamic grooming gangs.Now, 250 Antifa come down.Police are like, right, we're going to have to bring in TSG.They have a different name for them up there.But.
 
And TSG is basically the riot police for those not under not from the UK or from London or wherever the TSG is, as most of us hadn't come across the TSG before Covid.
Yeah, well, that's it. in it. But the Antifa arrived, they started attacking us. So they robbed, they stole one of our flags, which we ended up setting on fire. Police were just standing around biting their nails at this point. And then the TSG arrive and they form them. It took them a while, by the way, after TSG arrives, they need to start planning and everything or whatever. It takes them about 20 minutes after they arrive to actually form a line. So they form a line. And by the way, I've been promised before this that they were going to move Antifa into a different section. So they form a line in front of Antifa and they're like you haven't got enough supporters yet.Now, they formed a line, right? By the way, because obviously we got there at 12. This is only half 12. The event doesn't start until one, right? So you've got a lot of people who won't be there until 1 to 1.30. That's when people start arriving in mass, usually.So police have formed a massive line. They're like, right, you haven't got enough support, so we're going to move them back a meter. And that's it. We're going to keep you in the corner, shoved into a corner, and you've got a meter. So then you've got people, right? Because I had loads of messages about this. We've got people who've travelled all the way down from Scotland who can't get through the police lines because police not letting them, which was just absolutely ridiculous. Now we're like, right, we're just going to have to start the event anyway. We're not scared, you know, we're not scared of Antifa. Now they're like, it's funny because there was a guy who was threatening to stab us and that same guy was like, why are you here? Why are you here?Give your speech, give your speech. And loads of other people will get like, give your speech, give your speech. And then as soon as we start giving our speech, they're booing us really loudly, playing loud music, drumming, which has just proven our point. We're there because of free speech.They're there counter-processing free speech, shutting down free speech, and they still think they're the good people in all of this.It's just absolutely astonishing to me. So I was, by the way, we have, so we have a lot of, alter cants where we watch all of these antifa lot, right? We, we, we very, we keep a very close eye on all of them. And we've seen tweets where they're talking about militant antifascism, because I'm talking about our event, right? And there was a teacher from Manchester university.It was like militant, and I agree with all of you, but I don't think militant antifascism is the way.And they're like, yeah, it is. It is right. There was a massive debate about it. So they're admitting that theirs is a militant organization, right? Now they use threats, violence to intimidate and suppress political opponents. That is the definition of terrorism. Antifa are terrorists.There's no doubt about it. Antifa are a terrorist organization and they need to be shut down. Now we're not scared of Antifa. They can set my flag on fire. They can come after me all they want, right? I will be back in Manchester on the 3rd of June at 1pm, 188 Oxford Road. I'll be there again.I'm not up there to have a massive fight with Antifa, but anyone who's watching, if you can come, please come. We need your support, right? If there's enough of us, Antifa will get moved into a different section, right? And we need enough of us so we can talk to the wider public, we can have our voices heard by the university rather than shut down by the tyrannical Antifa.So, if you can be there, please do, 3rd of June in Manchester, thank you.
Well, let's, so you've got two events, so let's do one by one and kind of why these are important.So, the one coming up, what most, just next month actually, is on 15-Minute Cities, and that's in Swansea.So, tell us about that first.Yes, so I'm really looking forward to this one because last Monday we had 40 people out for outreach on a Monday.Now that's pretty good numbers for a Monday. Just for handing out leaflets.So that was absolutely fantastic. Now that day we'd made the news twice.So there was one article in the morning, far-right extremists plan to gather in Swansea.Yeah. And it was mainly a hit piece on banners and bridges, which I'm very proud of them because it's the first time getting in the news. I do a lot of work with them. It's run by Sasha. You can find them on Telegram if anyone's interested. They run a lot of regional groups across the UK.And then there was a second article which came out after the event actually happened, and it was Police Attend Far-Right Extremist Outreach March, or whatever.And now that was very cleverly worded, right, because police attend all events, doesn't mean there was any fights or anything, or we were violent or whatever.The reason they attended was because Stand Up To Racism will be counter-protesting us on the 7th, right?All be counter-protesting us on the actual protest day. And so they were there to make sure, well to keep the peace or facilitate it, it's their favorite word now, to facilitate a peaceful protest and make sure that Antifa or Stand Up To Racism didn't turn up to counter-protest us. So yeah, it was very cleverly worded and that's exactly where they used the picture of the elderly woman holding a sign that said no to 50-minute cities as the face of the far right, which I found really interesting. Now there's going to be a lot of Students Against Tyranny coming as well, we've got a few Welsh ones who are going to be coming and you've got some traveling all the way down from England to just support us because there's rumours of Swansea Online attending with a film crew which I'm really excited over because you know I'm quite hopeful of this.The thing is with Covid and with vaccine and stuff like that we had a lot of people telling us to f off doing the middle finger, arguing with us constantly. With this, people care more. And the reason people care more is because it hits them directly in their pocket. This is a war on motorists and the majority of the world's a motorist. Well, not the majority of the world, but the majority of the UK and the US and all of that are motorists, right? They'll drive a car. So they'll,It will affect them and they'll care about it. Now stand up to racism have been leafleting about this in Swansea. And they, and in their video, they did it with Stan, right? They didn't recognize which is funny because they're leafleting about Stan as well. So Stan's having a conversation with them and they're like, oh, so 15 minutes a day is a great idea, right? It's everything located within 50 minutes. And Stan's like, well, won't they fine you for leaving your zone? And they're like, no, no, that's a conspiracy theory. But then you look at Oxford and what they've done in Oxford. So what they've done in Oxford, right? It's not just you can't leave your zone. So you can leave your zone for up to a hundred days a year, right? Free of charge. Now, after those 100 days, you will have to pay £25 a day that you're driving. Now, that's if you live in Oxford.If you don't live in Oxford, you have to pay 75 quid a day.Just to drive around. You pay road tax. Why are you having to pay this? Now, I hate this argument that, it's like the smoking ban in pubs. It's not like the smoking ban in pubs. It's like saying, you can't smoke unless you pay me, and then you can smoke. That's exactly what it's like, right?All this ULEZ stuff, but it's not just about money. It's not just about money. They have money.What it's about is it's making driving a luxury for the rich and too expensive for the poor, or hindering your ability to travel.That's what it is about. It's about control, yeah? And so we're going out now with a team within the next couple of weeks to leaflet and leaflet and leaflet and raise awareness of this and get people there.It's gonna be a big, big demonstration. We've got some great guest speakers.We've got Paul Burgess, who's a climate realist. He runs a channel, Climate Realism with Paul Burgess.He worked for Welsh Water for nine years and has been developing a mathematical model of climate change for the past 30 years. We've also got Ben Walker, who's the chairman of UKIP.We've got Debbie Hicks, who's from Keep It Cash. You've got myself, and we've got a few more that we're working on getting. So it's gonna be a big day. I'm looking forward to it.If you are Welsh, come support us. It's gonna be great.
Well, obviously we've watched Oxford and what they're doing there.We obviously, all around London is the, not only the ULEZ, but LTN, so Low Traffic Neighbourhoods Restricted Off. I think Haringey wants to have 90% of their roads cut off.And of course, you're right, it is a war on, it is a war on the working class because I know people who they have a vehicle, if they drive their vehicle to their home, they'll be charged.And yet the price of a new car is out of reach of most people.And then you're looking at second hand, but most people don't have the ability to sell off something that's maybe only worth maybe 2,000, 3,000, and then you're paying three times that at least for any second-hand car.So it is punishment. At least you don't have Sadiq Khan telling you what to do.Well, you're absolutely right, because on the 27th now in Cardiff, the council's actually meeting to discuss a congestion charge, a ULEZ zone, all of this stuff, right?Now, the congestion charge is a rather interesting one because we don't get much traffic in Cardiff other than rush hour. So I don't know what they're on about there, But they've got a meeting on the 27th at 2pm at City Hall, so I'm going to be outside obviously.To discuss bringing this in. It is just a war on motorists. They want us to use public transports, right? But especially in Wales, and I know London's exactly the same, it's not reliable.It's absolutely not reliable. I mean, we have the funding to fix it, but what we spend on rainbows on a bloody road, because that's going to make a difference. It's absolutely ridiculous. And people are buying this as well. The fact people are buying this, I am ashamed to call myself Welsh. We were known for fighting and getting out there. But after COVID, if you saw that, the amount of people who were just brain dead sheep, it's vile. It absolutely is.
And I'm assuming, although it doesn't really matter much difference, because there isn't really much right and left in any of these issues, but I'm assuming, not having looked for a while at that make up of the Welsh Assembly.I'm assuming it's Labour and then Plaid Cymru who have the majority.
 
Yeah, that's right.Wow, so you're not gonna get any sense out of any of them. So, Plaid Cymru for those outside is the Welsh Nationalist Party, who is as dumb and awful as the SNP, the Scottish Nationalist Party.
The best way to describe them is they want independence, but they want us to re-join the EU.So, that's just coming. Sorry, my bad, I got them confused then.
This is stupidity, so tell us, so you've got the event, talk to us about the event in June and then I wanna talk more about, a little bit about discrimination, which people face in university, just having some common sense views, but tell us what was the event in June you talked about?
So it is a really, really long story, this is.I haven't got it all off the top of my head, but I can give you a piece.
We've got all night, James, don't worry.
 
I can definitely give you a brief rundown of what happened. So, if anyone does want to view the full story, it is on urbanscoop.news, how Manchester University conspired against a non-woke student. If you want to give that a read, the full story of exactly what happened is in there, because it is a very, very long story.Now, the best way to describe it, right, is pre-2016, universities were a place of free speech.They were. Now, when Trump, with the Trump presidential election and with Brexit and all of this, something started to happen to university campuses, right? There was a massive shift in the way the administration handled things, right? All of a sudden, it wasn't okay to have voted Brexit. That's the kind of mentality, right? So they kind of clamped down on free speech a whole lot more. Now, John, so John Christie and the student in question here, he'd basically, he was in university pre-2016. After 2016 he got accepted into a PhD program.So yeah, now he'd gone to a seminar event with about 250 research professors, students and faculty.Now in this seminar, a student unbeknownst to John had announced to the class that he'd voted to leave the European Union. Now all of these students then started debating and he was up for it, he loves to debate, that's exactly what universities were pre-2016 and so he was debating a lot of the students on that. Now after this he'd noticed that a lot more people would invite him to the pub and stuff like that and they'd have a debate with him. Now what he didn't realize, and the full story as I said is on UrbanScoop, now what he didn't realize until much later is that that's what they were trying to do, it's trying to find something they could be offended over so they could go to the university and report him for offending them and making them feel uncomfortable.Right? So he'd constantly, by the way, get pulled in to a disciplinary as someone had been offended over what he'd said and he'd get into trouble, whether that be suspended isolation, whatever, right? But he'd constantly have to go through disciplinary meetings and this went on for ages, right? Now, without further explaining that, again, the full story is on UrbanScoop.If anyone remembers the Irish abortion referendum, I think it was 2019, I'm not too sure on that one.Someone had actually come into his office and there was a group of them who came to his office celebrating over the results of the Irish abortion referendum. So what this did is it legalized abortion, right? That's what it did, right? So it legalized abortion in Ireland and he'd asked them to leave because they were making him feel uncomfortable, basically using the tactics that they were using and what he said was is that he wants to debate this topic but he knows if he does then he's going to get pulled into a disciplinary, right? And so what had happened was he'd asked them to leave, they left and then they'd reported him again but this time they, and he was pulled, sorry, he was pulled into a disciplinary and what they said is that even though he'd followed all the rules that he still made students feel uncomfortable by not celebrating with them and so he was in trouble again. Now the story is absolutely mad but eventually what's happened was he was basically, they refused to assess his thesis after five years of studying for it, right, he doesn't get a refund, no sorry he does get a refund, he was on a scholarship program but after five years of studying for his PhD, which is a long time to waste if you're not going to get your qualification, they refused to assess it and it's an absolutely mad story. So the ultimate reason of that was he's actually, if everyone remembers in 2018, It was to do with, no.I can't remember what year exactly it was, but there was a year to do with BLM. BLM was very big in the mainstream news. He'd actually written to his university president and had basically said that they shouldn't be backing BLM because BLM is a Marxist organization and Antifa, they've been causing riots and stuff like that. And so the concern is they could say there were too many books in the library that are written by white people and not enough black people and so they could burn down the library. At the time that was a genuine concern and so then he got pulled into a meeting for threatening to burn down the library which he never did. Listen it's a massive story and I've got to memorize it to talk about it fully but if anyone does want to read it it's on ubanscoop.news so yeah.
 
Yeah make sure and check out and if anyone is not subscribed I'm sure any of our viewers will be, but make sure and subscribe to urbanscoop.news and you can get all of that great content, more and more content going up there regularly, so it is all available there. Just on kind of looking at universities, because my worry is that if students keep quiet until they get through, then they'll be so indoctrinated that they will come out, they may go in with the good intentions of holding on to common sense views and beliefs.But at the end of it they will be fully indoctrinated because they haven't learned how to push back and have absorbed those. You're obviously taking a stand.You're becoming more and more public in all different ways. So I guess what you're doing is laying down a line and saying this is really how you can be a student, hold on to your beliefs, get your education, actually you can have it all, it is possible.
Yeah, this is the thing right, I've got friends who are now in university, now before they went into university they were straight normal people, they've come now, I've seen a massive transformation, they're now got pink hair, identifies as a they-them, you know still trying to figure out their bloody gender, and it's not just my friends, you know, you look at, there's a hundred thousand transgender people in the UK.It's a huge problem. Now, I do a course in my university on film and TV. Do you want to know the stuff I've learned? So, in one lesson, I remember I learned about anti-Trump views, anti-capitalist views. I learned about climate change. Now, when we're given coursework and stuff like that, the topics we are given are very left-wing topics. I don't want to say right-wing, I'll come at them from a very liberal standpoint, but they are very left-wing topics that, yes, do need to be discussed, but the concern is, say in Manchester or Imperial College or Cambridge, if you come, like if you do what I do and come at the coursework from a liberal standpoint, you are going to be punished, and that is evident from the John Christian story.So the thing is, every student who is watching this now, you can have your beliefs, right? They may punish you or whatever, but what's the point in spending four years pretending you're something you're not. I thought that's what the entire trans movement is about in the first place isn't it? It's pretending you're something you're not, which that isn't the case at all. You're pretending to be the opposite sex. But you shouldn't have to worry about what other people think. And we are trying to bring free speech back to universities. I've made some great plans and I do want to give a big shout out to Kate Shimirani who's done some fantastic work and is working with us now on doing some Billboard Chris style videos, you can have your beliefs right, there is a support, there are support groups out there, we are growing every single day.You know, there are more people who want to get involved with Students Against Tyranny and what we're building, so if you are watching, please, please, please get involved and listen, parents out there as well, if your kid wants to go to university, my suggestion is look for the ones that are very highly ranked in regards to free speech and not so much in academic ability right, I mean yeah Cambridge University is considered one of the tops but at the end of the day it's just a piece of paper. It is just a piece of paper. Send them to a university where they're not going to get indoctrinated with all this communist, Marxist, Lenin, Trotsky bullcrap because that's exactly what it is. Send them to university that is much better in terms of free speech and isn't so indoctrinated because it's getting bad. Like you know when... See the thing is with this campus debates campaign we've launched which is our free speech campaign, We've been trying to get into universities to debate students, we've been trying to get university societies to work with us. Now the university societies that do have free speech, no, that do have debate in societies like Edinburgh for example, which got famous for the What is a Woman documentary counter-protest that happened, right?We'd actually reached out to universities like that asking if we can come there to debate students.They were like, no, you're too extreme. That's their view when it comes to us.We're not that extreme, right? About 20 years ago, we would have been marked liberal to moderately left. Do you get what I mean? And now we're far right, but the far left are just normal left, which is something I've never understood. So you've got Edinburgh University and all of of them doing, you know, not allowing us to come there because we're too extreme. And then you look, at universities like Bradford, for example, no right-wing societies at all. No conservative society, no free speech society, no debating society. Do you know what they do have though?They have an Afghanistan society, they have an Islam society, they have an LGBT society, they have all of these very left-wing. But where's the support groups for the right-wing ones?Well, no, you're right. And, I mean, just talk to someone like Andy Ngo and he'll tell you how caring and friendly any Antifa group is.They actually they no longer present. It's weird because these organizations no longer present themselves to be, to be moderate or fair. They are so aggressive.So in your face, they are so overwhelmed, I guess, with hate that there is no, there's no façade anymore. It's all there for everyone to see.Yeah. And this is the thing as well. I mean, a lot of them, because I love, I absolutely love debating a lot of these students.So I do it to a lot of my friends as well.And I don't really have them as friends anymore, but that's not the point. Right.Um, so I remember getting into a debate before about capitalism, right.And they're, they're basically saying that, um, the reason that communism would work well, the reason that communism hasn't worked so far is because it's capitalism, communism, and, um, it needs to be socialist communism in order for it to work.That's their main argument, but every time it starts off as socialism, we're always ends up as capitalist communism, so I've no idea what they're on about. Now they use the UK today as an example that capitalism doesn't work. Now, this is the thing, we don't live in capitalism, right? We don't. We live in corporatism, right? Where companies are more worried about social justice and equality, right? That's corporatism, that's not capitalism.We don't live in a capitalist society. We live in corporatism and we are heading towards a communist dystopia. That's the direction we're going in.Listen, I love debating that topic and there's another big one that I love doing, that's gender.Gender is one of my favorite topics to discuss because it's so sad.We're going to end up with, well, we are ending up with a generation of young, sterile men.Who in seven to 10 years will commit suicide.It's very upsetting to see that happen, especially a lot of the friends I grew up with heading down that direction, mutilating themselves, because they think it's helping them. The thing is, and I know a lot of people disagree with me on this, I don't think the blame is necessarily on transsexuals. I believe the blame is on the people around them. Because we've admitted, as the Gender Recognition Act 2004 says, this is a mental illness. Gender dysphoria is a mental illness that is recognized by the medical community, right? And instead of getting the real help they need, whether that be therapy sessions, whatever, we are instead feeding into their delusions a bit like saying to a schizophrenic, schizophrenic person that yeah everything they believe is happening to them is happening to them right, it's not healthy for them it isn't right and so we need to well that's my main concern is what we're doing to young men and what we're allowing to happen and all of these doctors who are willingly mutilating young men you know carving meat out of their legs to create a prop that doesn't work because it doesn't, it doesn't, it's just a sack of meat. You know, I, I interviewed someone called Richie for Voice of Wales, um, who's de-transitioned, right? 30 years old, he made the decision.He was 30. He was offered it in his first therapy session, majorly regret it, right? Now he's told me he can, he has a very low sex drive. He's depressed. He cannot have, he cannot, let's just, say have fun during sex. It's really messed him up. And that's one of my, I'm very passionate about this topic. So again if any students are watching or if anyone clips this, push this to Twitter. Just find us on Twitter, you see the...Username below and on Telegram Students Against Tyranny Official. Invite me to your university, man. Have a debate with me. I'm willing to debate anyone on any topic. So yeah, see you there.
Completely. And I agree with you, just to finish, I agree with you that my issue is not with the crazy activists, but it's with the government who've let this happen. It's with the Tavistock Clinic. It's with those doctors who mutilated children, sexually abused children, and will get away with it and we'll start working whatever the next clinic the government starts and no one is actually punished for that great evil. I'll just say to the viewers and listeners, if you are a university student and do want James, contact him directly, but by all means feel free to drop us info@heartsofoak.org and we'll certainly pass anything on to James. He has a great knowledge, he is passionate, he knows the issues, so why not bring him along. What could go wrong?What could go wrong? Maybe someone might actually hear some truth for once in a university setting, it'd be great.
 
Well, Antifa has pushed us in the direction now, so we can't even announce where we're going to be. Like with Wes, he was doing the outreach, right? I remember he went to Scotland to do some outreach, and then he was met with Antifa, counter-protesting him there.So it's really difficult to get anything done. So now it's kind of pushed us now in the direction of not announcing where we're going to be or what we're going to do, which ends up working out in in our favour anyway. So listen, if you are a student once it gets there, you can do it.You can do it anonymously like, you know, send us an email. Everything you say stays between us and you can get us into your university without putting the name to it.So, yeah, just let us know. Thank you.
Sounds good, James. Thank you for coming on. Love what you're doing with Students Against Tyranny, love how you're getting out and getting the message out. So thank you for coming on and sharing with us here at Hearts of Oak.I really appreciate it, Peter.
 
Not all. Make sure the viewers and listeners follow the links in the description, or just jump on James' Twitter handle and follow everything there. You can keep an eye on those events coming up. All the information, all the details will be on his Twitter account, so make use of that. And just goodbye to all our viewers. Enjoy the rest of your Monday. We'll be back with you on Thursday, looking at the WHO. Michele Bachmann's back with us again and discussing an issue that she is passionately concerned about, which is WHO and their impact on all of us, and the World Health Assembly meeting coming up in Geneva next month. And she unpacks some of what we will be facing from that. So on that, I have a good night to everyone. And for those listening, Podbean app or any podcasting app, thank you for listening on on the go and we'll be back with you on Thursday.So thank you and good night to you all.

The Week According To . . . Leilani Dowding

Expect straight talking and common sense in abundance as Leilani Dowding joins Hearts of Oak for an hour of news driven chat and discussion, giving her unbridled opinions on some of the top stories bouncing around this week on the web, in the papers and from her social media.Join us as Leilani and Peter take a look at....- Penny Mordant, leader of the House of Commons, attacking Andrew Bridgen MP for speaking up for the vaccine injured.- 'My daughter’s life has been ruined by the Covid vaccine, and so has mine' A heart-breaking story from a mothers perspective.- VAERS death data and justice for the family of a Doctor who died 10 days after receiving his first dose of AstraZeneca.- Evolution of The Soy Boy: A 20 year old now has the testosterone levels of a 70 year old man.- NATO allies 'agree Ukraine will become member'.- Bud Light's marketing leadership undergoes a huge shake up after 'woman-face' controversy.- Censorship, YouTube and being demonetized for not playing along with delusions.- Mob Rule: Large group loot gas station in LA and the Police couldn't intervene.- In a story that’s been suppressed by the media for years, Elon Musk reveals Mark Zuckerberg gave $400M in the 2020 US election in support of efforts that benefit the Democratic Party.- UK Government Nationwide Alert: Who else is turning their alerts off on Sunday?Leilani Dowding is a regular contributor to The Mark Steyn Show. Half-Filipina, half-English, she is a former Page Three Girl and was crowned Miss Great Britain in 1998, going on to represent her country in the Miss Universe pageant. Leilani had a starring role in The Real Housewives of Cheshire and has appeared on The Big Breakfast, This Morning, Celebrity Wrestling and in numerous national newspapers. She is a proud 'Freedom Fighting Refusnik' and an unmissable commentator on world affairs, with her stance against tyranny and wokeness, Leilani has found a whole new army of fans.Follow Leilani on Twitter...https://twitter.com/LeilaniDowding?s=20Catch her Wednesdays on the brilliant Mark Steyn Show...https://www.steynonline.com/Originally broadcast live 22.4.23
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(Hearts of Oak)It is wonderful to have Leilani Dowding with us today. Leilani, thank you so much for joining us today.
(Leilani Dowding)Thanks for having me on. Always a pleasure.
 
Not at all.It was good to bump into you at Comcast and I've been on with you, different times on Ickonic, and people can obviously follow you there is your Twitter handle on the screen, also in all the descriptions, and they can catch you on Mark's Steyn.Tell us about that. You're on regularly on Mark's new show.Yeah, so I'm on Mark's show on a Wednesday night with a couple of other people and we just kind of talk about the news and stuff that's going on.But Mark's got his own channel now on his own website, marksteynonline.com.So all of the shows are on there.Obviously, with everything that happened with Ofcom, he's no longer on GB News and they seem to just keep wanting to employ politicians or ex-politicians.So, you know, Mark had to go do it himself, but just like you, doesn't do it on YouTube either. So, yeah.
It's much safer, but people can get it. Mark can get it on steynonline.com.You can get everything directly on Mark Stein's website.So let's jump in and look at our first story, which is the wonderful Penny Mordant, who could have been Prime Minister, although I'm not sure she'd really be any worse.Pro-Jam, do you wanna just play that clip of Penny?What other colleagues are not doing is promoting false propaganda, which is widely known to originate from the Kremlin, abusing and undermining colleagues and the occupant of the chair, and using the autopsy of a 14-year-old girl as clickbait on their social media feed, all of which the Honourable Member has done in the past week.And he might like to reflect on that.
This is obviously criticism of the wonderful, the one and only Andrew Bridgen MP who's spoken up for the vaccine injured, just like Mark Steyn really has done, and that's why he got clobbered by Ofcom for his honest conversations.So, Leilani, tell us about this, about Andrew Bridgen once again being attacked by others in the Chamber.
I mean, what Penny Mordaunt said was absolutely disgusting and disgraceful, isn't it?I mean, she's completely and utterly gaslighting the whole situation, yet again, like they've all been doing.But worse, worse is that she's saying it's Kremlin propaganda.I mean, it's like, it's laughable at this point.Like, really, are we going to say that everything's Kremlin propaganda and it's Russian affiliated or whatever? You know, what Andrew Bridgenhas said is his experience. He's vaccine injured himself. He's spoken up for the vaccine injured.He's, you know, been on the marches. He's tried time and time again to raise awareness to what's going on. And you have this woman standing there. And it doesn't surprise me, though, because, you know, I've seen her on interviews and she kind of is friends with Bill Gates. She won't have a bad word said about him.
 
It's really because I've been really shocked. I mean, I've worked in the Lords for 12 years and have been shocked at the lack of support that Andrew Bridgen, I think Esther McVey has come out and kind of backed him, but I would have thought there was maybe a dozen MPs kind of I would have thought in my mind would have come out and backed Andrew Bridgen and yet there's been silence and you know at the time he spoke in the chamber on this issue everyone got up and left and he was speaking to an empty chamber.
 
Yeah I saw that it was a disgrace, absolute disgrace. You saw somebody like tap someone on the shoulder then go over and usher everyone out. So there's obviously a big orchestrated effort here to keep it under wraps and keep it silent and not talk about it. Now they're going to keep, it seems, sticking to this official narrative that things are safe and things are effective and the public know it's not true. Now at this point they're learning. A lot of people know other people now that are a vaccine injured.I know a few personally, myself, and that's if they're lucky.That's if they're not dead.So for Penny Mordant to completely and utterly lie like that, and then Andrew Bridgen, I think he posted the autopsy of a 14-year-old girl in Japan.For her to then say that's just clickbait, I actually don't have any words for it, because it's just, It blows my mind that this can happen.No, it does. And it's, when you, you get excited whenever you see one politician stand up, but then whenever they're just attacked by every single other politician.But again, I guess it's fear of the leadership of the Conservative Party, because they realise that when the truth gets out, it'll not just be Dominic Raab just simply resigning, it'll be the rest of them and serious issues.And I guess they're all thinking of their jobs.
 
And that's the thing, isn't it?It's a bit like the Thalidomide.It took, what was it, 10 years for it to come out. And I don't think that these people want to speak about it yet, because these people are the people that were pushing it.They were telling their constituents, they were telling the country, take it, it's safe, it's effective.You're gonna end lockdowns. It's the only way to stop the lockdowns.They put us in these lockdowns.They put all these stupid measures out. They put the fear of God into people that they would never be able to get back to normal unless they took the jabs, then they coerce people into them. So for them to suddenly say, ooh, you know, we made a mistake.It would be the right thing to do, but you know, they're not good, honest, genuine people working there. So you know, it would be the right thing for them to say I made a mistake, but they won't. And it seems like the only person doing that now is Andrew Bridgen.Well in the media it's the same, and here is an article, Leilani, which you had retweeted, and this is Conservative Woman, which seems to be, well it's regularly talking about this issue, and is one of the few doing it and 'this is my daughter's life has been ruined by the COVID vaccine and so has mine' and it goes in the story written by someone who is anonymous again there is a fear of speaking truth on this and it just starts off this is the latest in our series of accounts of injuries caused by COVID-19 vaccines this is a heart-breaking story by Karen from a mother's perspective. And it's heartening, it's harrowing that this story has to be told, it's heartening that you have great publications like Conservative Woman getting this out.But again, they seem to be a voice in the wilderness in regards to other media outlets.That's right. There's very, very few people and media outlets talking about it. We saw it with Charlotte Wright's case, which I'll go into a bit later. There was just no media outside the court when they had the new coroner's review. And so there's very, very, as you said, very few cases, but this is heart-breaking. And you do see who the victim is, you see the daughter in it, because it shows her GoFundMe page, and there's photos of her and what happened and how she turned from this lovely, vibrant, she's only 36, so you know, much younger than me, this vibrant woman with two children and a husband, to somebody that was in a coma from I think it was blood clots and she was in a coma and she was in hospital a long time, she cannot walk properly, she can't, you know, bath herself and what have you, she can't get up her stairs, you know, she's really struggling because her house, you know, is a two-story house, there's no downstairs shower room, so she's, you know, it's an absolute nightmare, and of course, you know, where's the government support? They're not, you know, there's no, there's very few bungalows for her to go in, she can't work anymore, you know, they're struggling to pay the bills, and on top of this, you know, she really needs a carer. So it's, you know, it's another horrific situation.And I think the compensation that is being given out is pitiful. It's pitiful, whether it's for the vaccine bereaved, it's pitiful whether they're injured. And of course, big pharma have the only immunity around, financial immunity, you know, they should be paying out for these poor people to be looked after and taken care of, or the private health care that they need, or alternative kinds of health care.
 
And I guess whenever, and she talks about her daughter being in a coma for six or eight weeks, horrendous, and I guess the fear is that if someone goes to a hospital with a vaccine injury, that that's not a, that's not taken into consideration. So I could imagine they look for everything except that and by the time they come around to accepting that it could be too late for many people that's the scary reality.
 
And I don't even know if you know if they recognized it as a vaccine injury if there's anything that can actually be done to, you know to remedy that because I guess they just have to treat it as a stroke and it's just, oh sorry I accidentally pulled that out, it's just whether or not they canget themselves back into any state of health. And a lot of these poor people can't, Andrew Bridgen can't. He's, you know, I think he's, he's got to be on drugs, I think, for the rest of his life. Luckily, it's only antihistamines, because he gets, you know, these allergic reactions every time he stops now since but, you know, for some people.It's this and it's absolutely horrific.
Well, let's look at some of the data which you had put up, some of the VAERS data.Projam, can you just double click on that graph and bring it up full screen?And this shows the top is, let me bring it up, the top is all US deaths reported to VAERS by year.And as you can see, there's a pattern from 1990 up until 2020.That pattern is there are very, very, very few not even registered on this. And then something happens in 2021 and these are only the ones that are reported through the system. But I mean, tell us about, you put this up, tell us about this graph.
 
So Dr Thomas Binder put this up in response to what I put about Charlotte Wright. So what happened with Charlotte Wright is her husband, Stephen Wright, died 10 days after having the vaccine, and for a long time they wouldn't acknowledge that it was the vaccine that caused it. I think it's taken her about two years and about two days ago she, was it Wednesday, she went to court, she went for a coroner's review and they actually changed the death certificate to say AstraZeneca. So in a way it was a relief, Obviously, it doesn't bring any comfort, her husband's dead now. But the most insane thing is that he was classed as unvaccinated, because it was within two weeks or 14 days of the vaccine, they had natural causes, unvaccinated. So I think Dr. Thomas Binder was trying to demonstrate that, you know, that a lot of the deaths that are supposedly unvaccinated people dying could have been people that had the same reaction as him. And I know there's a lot of people who, wouldn't even think twice about it being a vaccine and just think, you know, oh, you know, it must be something rare that's happened. It's not the vaccine. It's a random blood clot. And it doesn't occur to them.But luckily, you know Charlotte fought so hard and for so long to get this acknowledged and recognised and changed.I hope this can open the door now for other people who have questions about, you know, someone passing away within 14 days of the vaccine and then it just not even being recorded as a vaccine injury or vaccine death.
 
I mean, Charlotte's story is so important because I'm sure there are many people who have tried and simply haven't got anywhere, and now they see actually there is recognition available, then I do hope that gives many courage to actually find out the truth about the deaths of their loved ones.
Yeah, that's right. I mean, it's really scary to think. I know a couple of people who say they have friends who kind of had heart attacks randomly, previously quite healthy people who didn't, think they had any underlying illnesses, just pass away of a heart attack or stroke. And I, you know, and then I think, I can't say it, I want to ask the question, but I can't say it. And I'm pretty sure, you know, that they had, they had the jab, but you know, and it's not really the right time to ask, is it? But I don't think...
It is a difficult conversation to have. It really is.So yeah, but you know, hopefully now this is opened a couple of doors for people. And the gaslighting has to stop and the censorship and you know what she was, she's been censored a lot she's been shadow banned. There's another lady that appears on Mark Stein's show, Vicky Spitz, her fiancé died the same way. She's been banned off Twitter for talking about it and there are so many people with vaccine injuries or have loved ones who've, you know, died from it, that can't even speak about it on social media.It's like, no, bye, let's, you know, wipe them off. And another one like Gareth Eve, his wife, Lisa Shaw, also died of it. And, and there's just, you know, silence, people aren't talking about it on in the mainstream. It's crazy to me. Well, it's not when you know the agenda, and you know, everyone's covering their back, but it's still, you know what I mean?
Oh and the government blame Russian disinformation, of course, of course. It's an easy way out and an easy way dismiss. It's like calling someone a Nazi or whatever, racist, just call them a Russian spy.
They love that. They love it these days. Any like slur you can come up with, just, you know, for anything that or so what now you're a Putin super sympathiser if you believe there's vaccine injuries or something. They'll come out with anything to cover their backs. It's crazy.
Now they will. Well, let's move on to a completely an interesting graphic that you put up. And it was this.And this is talking about the frightening change of testosterone levels of men and how it is affecting masculinity.And there are many things I guess this has done. But I mean, tell us about this, because it is a worldwide issue that is having an effect on the whole of humanity, really.Well, they're saying now that a 20 year old has the same levels of testosterone as a 70 year old would have had in 2020.Was it 2000? Yeah. In the 2000s. And obviously, there's a huge decrease in testosterone, natural testosterone levels that men are making and producing.And I think it comes down to a lot of chemicals that are around.Now, Alex Jones got called an absolute nutter when he said, look, there's these chemicals that are changing the sex of frogs, but it is, I think it's called atrazine.And it will sterilize a male frog, and in some of them will actually change their sex.So if this is in the water, and water just goes round, it gets recycled and purified, then this is going to be in our water.And we're going to be taking it in. And then there's other chemicals, like the BPAs in the plastic, in your plastic water bottles.And when the heat gets on a water bottle or the cold gets on a water bottle, it can make the BPAs come out, and things we store our food in, and microplastics, and all of this.So there were a whole load of chemicals that disrupt, I think it's the endocrine system, whatever it is that produces hormones.I think it's the endocrine system.But I've been saying this for years, that, you know, they keep talking about carbon being the end of the world, and the toxic thing, and that they're making carbon to be out the enemy. But actually, it's these toxins and poisons and chemicals that are entering our, you know, our air, our food supply and our water, that are really going to cause a, you know, a massive problem and lower sperm counts, lower testosterone levels. And I'm sure it probably has the same effect on women's oestrogen levels or, you know, egg production and what have you?Well, see, the push for fertilizers and also the push for GM foods that I guess food companies are looking for maximum productivity and maximum profit, but not really looking into the long term effect it would have on the population.
 
Now, what's really scary as well is when you see the experiments they're doing, kind of the transhuman experiments or trying to grow, something out of the womb and in a sack or, you know, they'll get two male mice and splice their DNA together to create something. It's like, do they even care that, you know, sperm counts are going down? Do they care that the fertility rates are going down? If they can clone things, if they they can breed things outside the human body completely unnaturally.I don't think, I think the answer is they don't.They don't care.That, you know, they're playing God. They put a white coat on and they think they're God and they can do whatever they want.
And of course, if only we had governments who are interested in the well-being of the population as opposed to, I guess, being in bed with these large companies in varying degrees, whether it's financial or contracts.But you wonder what is behind the scenes that would limit the government's desire to actually investigate some of these.Yeah, and you know what, there's probably so much money going around and backhanders being given to each other, little brown envelopes and cash here and there.And then also think about it, if the only way a human can reproduce is to have it done artificially, the amount of money that's going to be generated.And that seems to be all these people care about. When you look at Big Pharma, they're so motivated by money.They really couldn't give a damn about anybody.It's how much money can they make, their profitability, their first priority is their shareholders, not the patients.And they just want more customers and more customers. And here's another way.You have more customers because people can't even reproduce anymore, because all the chemicals from their other products are now reducing our fertility.
Oh, completely.let's just looking on, get our biotech babe, hello. Pat's Canyon, hello. Scotland the Brave.Let me... Gareth1965... Trevor and Chris who commented on so yeah it's fire in your, let us know how you're watching always good to and if I don't actually go through them now I can always go through them after but to drop your comments in. Let's move on to something completely different. Let's move on talking about that Russian propaganda. Let's look at this story in Sky News. NATO allies agree Ukraine will become a member. Jens Stoltenberg, and there he is, if you can just scroll it down, who's the Secretary General of NATO, has repeatedly promised that Ukraine would join NATO throughout the war. Meanwhile, the Kremlin maintains that preventing this from happening is one of the goals of its war in Ukraine. It does seem madness to do the one thing that Russia is scared about. I mean, what could go wrong?Well, this is what's mad to me. I mean, this is what Russia, this was what it was all about, wasn't it? This was supposed to be why Russia invaded in the first place, because they believed that Ukraine was going to become a NATO member, or they were getting too, you know, NATO was pushing too far east for their liking, and what have you. So, you know what, it doesn't surprise me and what but what drives me mad is you never hear anybody calling for peace. We just from day one we escalated it and anybody that wanted peace or de-escalation or any kind of negotiation was called again, name called a Putin sympathizer, Russian apologist, you know whatever it was.And I was one of them because I immediately said I was like come on you know, we just Biden's just pulled the troops out of Afghanistan in the worst way ever now he wants to go and stick them in Ukraine and send all this money over there. We know the Hunter Biden laptops, there's 10% for the big guy. It's just so much corruption. And again, it's the military industrial complex that win out of this. It's never going to be the innocent people. It's not the innocent people of Ukraine. It's not the innocent people of Russia that win. It's the military industrial complex, the leaders, and the people that gain financially out of it.It's like they don't even care about their people dying. And then also we saw in America, the whistle-blower who came out and showed that, I don't know who it was, the guy stood up in the Senate and lied and said, look, we've got this. We're doing well. We're winning.And it showed that seven Ukrainians were dying for every Russian soldier.So how is that winning? completely lied, but the whistle-blower then gets carted off to jail and there's absolutely, you know, no comeback on the people that were lying and doing this.Well, the leader of NATO, he says, 'let me be clear, Ukraine's rightful place is in the Euro-Atlantic family', he told a press conference. Ukraine's rightful place is in NATO. And then I heard Orban coming out from Hungary and saying, hmm, this may not happen. I guess it's good to have some other voices within it that aren't just simply going along with whatever they're told to do by the major superpowers.
 
And I think we've seen, I don't know, correct me if I'm wrong, I think I think Macron said something about America's involvement as well.But we've seen this over and over again. And then all the propaganda machines come out.My mom was over at the weekend watching Sky News. And it was, please, turn it off.And obviously, it's all the bad things that have happened in Ukraine, supposedly by the Russians.All right, well, this is war. Where were you lot when we were trying to say, please, de-escalate, because there's going to be so many deaths. Do not prolong this.Try and find resolution. But, you know, you're not allowed to say find resolution.You have to say, come on, bomb them, like send them money and everything else.So it's nuts.They just do not care about innocent Ukrainians or Russians, either of them.
No, Ukraine is just a pawn in the middle of the West's attack on Russia, really.Again, moving on to something completely different. Bud Light. So Bud Light, I actually don't know if you, this could be one that you didn't repost possibly Leilani, but I wanted to cover it anyway. So Bud Light's marketing leadership undergoes shakeup. Wow. After Dylan Mulvaney's controversy, who is the bloke who thinks he is a woman. We can happily say that on, not on YouTube. But I saw some of the comments from her saying how wonderful this was about looking at a younger audience and now suddenly, well, she's now gone and been replaced by the global marketing VP, Todd Allen. So it looks as though the anger and frustration and boycott of Bud Light has worked.Yeah, well, you know what? When you actually see what she said about her own customers, she basically, she was so rude about them.I mean, these are Bud Light customers that have probably been loyal to the brand.She's just saying they're so out of touch and calling them kind of fratty, out of touch people.Like, is that what you tell your customers? Is that how you gain brand loyalty?So it doesn't surprise, I'm glad she's gone and it doesn't surprise me.But what's disgusting is that they even got Dylan Mulvaney on there because he's an insult, a complete insult to women.Like, when I was growing up, it's like the legally blonde stupidity, right?Bimbo-esque that I hated growing up as a little girl that made me actually a tomboy because, you know, I thought the stereotypical girly stuff.He takes it to another level. So to watch him is actually such an insult to women.It's like a complete and utter, it's woman face.And it's trying to emulate us in the most ridiculous, stupid caricature of a way.And it's embarrassing. And like, I would not want to be a friends with any woman that behaved like that.So for a guy to dress up and then expect us all to believe and use these pronouns and affirm that he's a woman when he's, he's obviously clearly got a mental illness. And he's a complete and utter attention seeker. I mean, I've seen him. I've seen him, I think he did 'The Price is Right' as a male.
 
Oh, it's so bad.
 
And I'm like, Oh, cringe, can anything be like, it can't be what and then he's doing same moves that he did when Nike sponsored him. And the whole thing is as well with that Bud Lightaffiliation promotion is that he's sat there talking about March Madness now if If you're getting paid,But please, do a bit of research. Find out what March Madness is and the fact it's basketball.Don't be a dim idiot and pretend like you're a girl and girls don't know what sports are and girls don't know that March Madness is basketball. Even when I moved to America and I heard, I was like, OK, what is this March Madness everybody's going out about?It took me two seconds because I look into things. You have to be a complete and utter imbecile.So the whole thing's insulting. And I'm so glad people boycotted it.Sorry, I've got a lot to say on Dylan Mulvaney, don't I?
I hadn't actually come across it before, and I watched some of the videos, and I thought, I do feel very disturbed.I feel as though someone has abused me in some way by watching some of these, which are, and again, as I've said on this regularly, that these people used to be able to go and seek treatment and get help for the conditions they have.And now they're celebrated. and whenever we celebrate people who have got some mental issues, no wonder the world isn't such a crazy place whenever that's not treated but celebrated.
So you're lucky that you didn't see them. I saw them early on.I saw his videos and it was girl, the worst thing was he was talking about it as like, this is day three of girlhood and he had pigtails, he had a little crop top, like a little netball skirt.Like cheerleader outfit.And I'm like, okay, first of all, you're like, you're sick. Like, are you trying to get an audience of young, like 12, 13 year old girls?Then he gets like some tampon sponsorship as well. So my calling, did he call it my female pouch or something?And I'm just like, my female pocket or my female....And I'm like, wow, I don't want some pervy fetishy dude talking about tampons.It's like, it's just disgusting. So, you know, and I've seen fridges full of Bud Light and all the other beers are gone. So I hope long may it continue.
I saw that in Morrison's the other and I didn't post, I meant to post it, but it was a whole massive, and it was, I have never seen beer as cheap as it was, and yet it was, wasn't moving. So yeah, I did have, Bud Light. No, no, I'm not, but like, no, no, no, I'm not buying that. So many people in the same situation.[30:19] Leaving Dylan far behind, as it's frustrating that we need to even talk about a poor person like that. This is Matt Walsh. Projam can you just double click on the Matt Walsh tweet actually and bring it up. This is obviously what we're talking about you cannot discuss on YouTube and this is Matt saying on the 20th of April. 'As I announced during my speech tonight YouTube have demonetized my show and threatened to ban us if we don't respect the pronouns of trans people. I'd rather take my show off YouTube, then cooperate with all that nonsense. So I'm starting Monday. You can watch my free...' And it's refreshing to see individuals like Matt Walsh, who I think is absolutely brilliant, but not bowing down to this censorship and saying, no, that is a bloke. I'm going to call him a bloke. But yeah, tell us about this Leilani.
 
So it's really good to see, and he's another person, just like Mark Steyn, who's like, you know what, I'm not going to be dictated to by some other people about what I can say when I believe it to be right. So why should he be bullied into saying a man is a woman and a woman is a man and using he and her for a her and her for a he? I mean, I won't do it. I absolutely refuse to do it. But I know also Ofcom have given out guidance on it as well, you know, and I think it came about when that Scottish male rapist, dressed as a woman,just because he had a wig, he had a wig on, the guy had a wig on, in leggings you can see his package, and a bit of lipstick, I think the heel, the boots had some heels on, and that was around the time when Ofcom gave out this guidance saying, you know, respect people's pronouns, then you see Richard Madeley on Breakfast TV apologizing profusely for calling Sam Smith he, not not they.And it's like, God, you're all, you know, you're kowtowing to the woke mob and it's not right.So I, you know, I really admire Matt Walsh for this. And he actually got hacked as well.It was really bad. He got his Twitter got hacked.And luckily he was able to get it back. But you know, what's transpired since then is that he's got to have 24 seven security because the woke mob was so after him.So all these people that say they're liberals are only liberal if you agree with their narrative because Matt Walsh has never actually said anything transphobic.Matt Walsh has simply asked, what is a woman?Matt Walsh has said, you know, if you've got a penis, you're a man, if you have a vagina, you're a woman.And I'm not going to use pronouns that you want me to use and affirm your delusions. You know, if to me, I don't see anything wrong with what you said. If you see, you know, a skinny lady, man, lady, whatever, who's anorexic, who thinks they're fat and wants to go on a diet, you don't affirm that by saying, oh, let me help you. Let me get you on this diet. You get them the help they need. And these men are not women. So...
 
Actually I signed up for Daily Wire for the year, simply because I wanted to watch What is a Woman by Matt Walsh.I love it because he lets others speak their stupidity. He puts a microphone and they just talk nonsense.It's great you don't have to speak over them, you don't have to coax them.People are dumb enough to actually spout this nonsense.
No, I'm the same. I got it. And I just, you know, the professor that's talking of gender studies, talking round in circles.And you're like, wow, you're really digging your own grave. And I saw the poor, the trans man, who's a biological woman, saying, look, I'll always be a biological woman.And they got me, and they coaxed me at this age, they've got to leave children alone.And she shows a scar that she's got on her arm from where they take off the skin and make a fake penis.She describes all of the medical issues she now faces as a trans man.And it actually brought tears to my eyes because you could see that she genuinely needed a different kind of help.And all they did is affirm a mental illness that she had at the time. And I know there's a couple of other, trans people I know, you know, the same way that have just said, look, I was in, I was in a really bad place. And they offered this solution instead of talking through my actual problems. And I thought this would be the solution. And I was in such a bad place. I kind of went along with it.And you know and then they get attacked so it's a horrible situation.
 
The trans lobby are, I've you when you when you talk about a range of stuff as as you do Leilani, you kind of wonder where the attacks the response will will come from and the names you'll get called. The trans lobby are, a level above the vitriol, the utter hatred and obviously what you're watching but, the response from them is, I mean, I think it's just possessed that they seem to have such an utter hatred and I'm sure you've seen that as well.
Absolutely, the real full-on trans activists are completely and utterly nuts.I mean, after that school shooting by the trans, you know, the biological female.People, the trans activists were coming out saying that she was misgendered because they called her a she and she should have been a he and they were dead, they dead named her because they should have used her male name and it's like hold on a minute, this woman, person, whatever has killed six people and this is what you come out with and then they were like um well you know you mess with our kids, will mess with yours, meaning, because I think it was in a state that had passed a bill that would not allow genital mutilation of children in that state, and also for children to go on hormone blockers, that apparently is messing with their children, so they have every right to attack others. So yeah, you know, I think the trans activists are some of the most dangerous. I mean, you look at the death threats J.K. Rowling's had.
I think it was Rachel Johnson, Boris Johnson's sister, that said that if she grew up being a tomboy and she was concerned, maybe she wouldn't say it now, but she was concerned that if she was born a few years later, that she would then be a male because she would be pumped full of hormones. And that's the fear that the madness that prevails today is injecting children and destroying them, sexually abusing them in a way where in asituation where kids grew out of things, they experience life, they explore and now we're taking knives and slicing them instead of just letting them grow up.
 
See I always think that, I always, because I was such a tomboy growing up, I mean I was, I thought everything girly was just so ridiculous. I wanted to play with boys toys. I love Transformers. I thought Barbie was ridiculous.I like Transformers and Action Man and I'd climb trees with the boys and I'd get dirty and I didn't want to put a skirt on.And I really feel like they would have, and I even got my school. It went on for a while because I think I was 17 when I got my school to start a rugby team for girls and Bournemouth actually had a female rugby team and I played rugby in it and like the local paper wrote about it but they would have said that, you know, they would have tried to convince me that I was born in the wrong body and you know maybe I was really a guy and it would have definitely it would have destroyed my life.Because you know I think I might have got to 18, 19. I was like oh actually I really like being a girl I actually don't want to be covered in bruises anymore like no more bruises stick with horses, I'll be a girly girl, um... Life's fun as a girl. You know, I got attention from guys and I was, you know, things went back to how they should have been for me. And some girls might not even grow out the tomboy stage. And that's also fine. For them to be a tomboy. It doesn't mean they should be a male and, and, you know, mutilate their genitals and, you know, cut off their breasts. And it's a social contagion as well.
Oh it is, it is. Let's move, End Wokeness is one of the Twitter handles that I've really enjoyed.ProJam, I'm going to play that, it's just 30 seconds long. This is a large mob looting an LA gas station and the police couldn't intervene.We'll talk about what the Leilani said about that in a moment. Do you want to play that?
 
(Video plays)'A Video into our newsroom shows hundreds of people crowding in ARCO near central and Alondra.After smashing the door, dozens of looters flooded into the store, grabbing anything they could. LA Sheriff's deputies, tell us there were thousands of dollars worth of merchandise stolen and a thousand more in damages, this as deputies deal with numerous street takeovers in the city, deputies say they couldn't intervene because of safety concerns as they were very outnumbered. Only one an arrest was made last night.'So they couldn't intervene out of safety. I thought the police would just get involved and put themselves in harm's way, but obviously not. So yeah, the LA police couldn't intervene.You know, what worries me is that this could be possibly done on purpose.Well, first of all, you know, that guy was in the camera, so we can arrest that guy.Surely, they can arrest the guy whose face was there.But what worries me is they're letting this happen, and then what they will then do is say, look, we need to use facial recognition more, because this is going to happen.Or what we need is we need the barriers that go outside the storefronts that you have to swipe to get into, which I've seen.I think there's one on Kensington High Street. I think it's the Amazon store.You have to show your ID to get in.And I saw on Twitter, there was a couple of Whole Foods somewhere in New York where you have to swipe your thing to get in.So this could end up being the gateway into having cameras everywhere, facial recognition everywhere, under the auspices of safety for ourselves.You swipe in to go in, and then you think, well, I'm not going to be one of these looters, so it doesn't matter.But then, next thing, when it's like, hey, you're not allowed to go within a three mile radius of your house, that's then when they arrest you as well.You know, like we saw with COVID, oh, you can't go into this zone, you can't travel out your zones, because I don't know, there's probably people here from other countries, but in England, you had, what was it?Like red, yellow, or green, or something, where if there was more COVID cases in one area, you were probably red and you couldn't go to the next county or drive across the line. So, that's where,you know, in that totalitarian state, that is what it could then be used for. You know, they put it in to stop these people looting in, you know, in mass. But then next time there's a lockdown. It's like, oh yeah, you know, Leilani's broken it again. She's gone over to Derbyshire from Staffordshire, naughty girl. Let's stick her, you know, slap her with a thousand quid fine.
Yeah, because it doesn't, obviously we've seen this in more Democrat controlled, I mean in California's where you can steal a thousand dollars and it's fine. But if you're a shop owner, for you to face that and the police not to turn up, and you're right, it has to be, it doesn't make sense to allow that to happen, so it has to be to push towards something else. That's the only sensible kind of read of what we're seeing.
Because you would think, wouldn't you, that if someone made a 911 call for that, that they'd send out, you know, a big team of policemen, maybe it's America, they've all got guns.Something would happen that, you know, they could control the situation. So if they're not controlling it, then that kind of it has to be, you know, part of the plan. And it's just in California just turned into a complete and utter mess. Anyway, like you said, you can go in, you can you see it all the time on, you know, on social media, the way people go in, and they just put, you know, goods in a bag because they know they can steal up to 1000 quid and nothing's going to happen. And then they literally walk out.You know, I try to post, not to post them because I don't want people to see how easy it is.And you know, it kind of catch on through, you know through sharing it and posting it.But basically that's what happens all over California.And then so many shops have got to close down It's just no point in them trying to do business with it happening, but I can see that that's going to be the way forward.They'll say, well, you know, we're not going to send the police out, but what you can do is you can have these barriers and we'll have facial recognition everywhere, but then it leads to,leads to other things when they start abusing the powers like, you know, we've seen them do.
I think my advice would be to any shop owner, if that happens, when you phone the police, Do let the police know you've been misgendered. I think that's the only way you'll get the police back. And then they'll come out with an armed support unit.
Oh, million percent! But a SWAT team will be there, I tell you, in a second.
That's the only way round it. This is Elon Musk, who is an interesting character in many ways, but, this was an interview he gave to Tucker Carlson. Of course, he's been discussing all different things. We may not, we'll see if we can watch it all, but talking about Mark Zuckerberg, who, obviously the founder and ex-owner of Twitter, gave 400 million in the last election support off at the Democrat party, ProJam. Can you just play that clip there?(Video plays)
'The goal of new Twitter is to be as fair and even-handed as possible, so not favouring any political ideology, but just being fair at all.Why doesn't Facebook do this? I know that Zuckerberg has said, and I take him at face value, that he... Well, I do actually in this way, that he is a kind of old-fashioned liberal who doesn't like to censor, he has, but he, you know, like, why wouldn't a company like that take the stand that you have taken, which is pretty rooted in American traditional political custom, you know, for free speech?My understanding is that Zuckerberg spent $400 million in the last election, nominally in a get-out-the-vote campaign, but really fundamentally in support of Democrats.Is that accurate or not accurate? That is accurate. Does that sound unbiased to you? No, it doesn't.'We could listen to it more and I'd encourage people to watch the full interview and he's been giving different interviews around and setting aside, I know we will both have issues with a lot of stuff that Musk may stand for, especially the transhuman stuff. I think we are loving what he is doing with Twitter and calling out things like that. And in regards to Twitter, he seems to be straight up, wants to do something positive for that. And I guess we should all be applauding that, even though we may have issues with some other areas of his activities.
 
See, yeah, that's the thing. It's like you don't have to agree 100% with everything that everyone does or everyone says. But, you know, I do applaud him for everything that he's doing and saying about Twitter right now, and he's exposed the corruption that's been going on, the blatant, you know, partnerships with the government and the CIA, or, you know, is it the FBI? And, and the censorship, and literally putting people's names down and saying these people can't speak, and for whatever, whatever reason it was, because they were against the narrative. And, you know, I'm sure they would have done it with climate change next too. I'm sure they would have done it with the Russia-Ukraine situation had he not bought it.To me, I wish, you know, Zuckerberg is just so full of it, because like he says, he gave up so much money. And I know for a fact, whatever's happened with Twitter, for sure has happened with Facebook and Instagram. I know that I've been thrown off Instagram. I cannot put my full name on Instagram anywhere. I can't set up a new account. I've had someone within Instagram say to me, gosh, I've never tried to get my account back for me. So I've actually never seen this before.You know, I didn't have to pay him anything. He's like, you can pay me if I can get your account back. He's like, I cannot get your account back. I don't want anything, but I've tried, but I haven't seen this before. You are properly blacklisted. So I am actually...
What did you say? What was so bad?
Well, I was against, I was talking about vaccine injuries. I was showing how easy it was to walk into shops without a mask. I was, you know, when we couldn't sit on furniture, because in the UK, you were not allowed to sit on outdoor furniture or drink a hot drink outside because that was classed as a picnic. I was posting pictures of myself sitting on park benches with a cup of coffee with my sister laughing at the stupidity and I think I had a rant about the word birthing parent and I think I said I'm sorry but you know there are mothers out there who have adopted children who haven't given birth but they'll be more of a mother than a mentally ill person who thinks they are a male. I think I said, so there was a few things, but anyway, I got properly thrown off. You can actually follow me on Instagram now under my last half, of my first name. So Leilani Dowd, I'm on it as that, but I cannot put my full name in my profile anything. So if you were to type in my name, you wouldn't be able to find me. But yeah, anyway, my point being that whatever censorship has been going on and collusion with the government that happened with Twitter prior to Elon, that has most definitely happened with Facebook and Instagram, in my opinion.And, you know, Zuckerberg isn't repairing any of it like Elon is, he's not letting people back on, he's not letting people have their old accounts back.You know, he's just, yeah, Facebook and Instagram were a joke as far as that's concerned.And you're not ever gonna be able to speak against the narrative on them.
Completely. Let's let's finish off with something that the UK are getting tomorrow, actually Florida already got, but this is that the government are going to send an alarm to you, an alert, a high-pitched alarm at 3 p.m. I believe on Sunday and this is a test so they can warn you if, well I was talking about about this with my older son.And he would say, well, you know, if maybe there's something happening, what?What, in London, is it gonna be an earthquake? Maybe we're on a volcano?Or might there be an alien attack? So what, well, but yeah, the government are gonna alert us all at 3 p.m.Tell us about this and what your advice is to the viewers.Well, I've turned mine off. Look, so I used to live in Los Angeles and there were wildfires, okay?So you might want an alert for a wildfire. The problem is that by the time you hear about the wildfire, they've already knocked out the electricity pylons. It's knocked out your phone anyway.So you're never going to get the alert. You're struggling. You've got no Wi-Fi.The electricity's gone if you live in a remote area.And the lines are down. So to rely on it would be ridiculous anyway.And probably the same if there was a big volcano or something, unless you had a lot of time to prepare, in which case, you know, it would be all over the news or social media or something like that.But what's scary as well is there's people that might have, you know, apparently they say that abused women or abused children might have a secret phone to get help.And obviously these phones are going to be bleeping everywhere at 3pm. So, you know, it's going to be quite distracting. I don't know if my mum even knows, I couldn't be bothered to tell her, she wouldn't switch it off anyway, but she'll have a like heart attack if it starts bleeping while she's driving along in the car. So it's, and I think personally, they want to see what phones are on, what phones are off, what, who's compliant with the government, who's not. And anyway, I'm turning mine off. I don't need it. I've seen a lot of the headlines. I saw a news headline just weeks saying the UK is going to bake in 20 degree weather. I literally saw that. 20 degree weather to people in America or something is 68 degrees. And it's like maybe one degree warmer than I have my heating on at the winter. So it's like, it's a joke. I don't want alerts like that.I don't want those headlines. I don't want an alert saying it's a little bit windy outside because, you know, it's England. I've survived, you know, 46 years.
This is the conversation I was having. Well, I've survived for 46 years.I've never felt the need for the Prime Minister to send me a message at any time. And I think I probably can cope for the next however many years without the Prime Minister alerting me. So, yeah.Yeah, I mean, if Russia's going to send a nuke over because he's sick of the way we've handled everything, where are you going to hide from that anyway?
Three minutes to an impending nuclear attack. Enjoy your last three minutes.
Yeah, exactly. And that's about as much as it's going to say, I'd rather not know, to be quite honest, I'd rather be completely oblivious. But you know, that's not going to happen anyway.So that was another headline that The Telegraph trying to scare people with.
They were. And obviously people can, you put up the screenshot there, people can find that on your Twitter, going through if you've Android or iPhone and how to turn it off, go into notifications and turn that off. I think, did you see the headline I saw in Florida, I think yesterday, they also have a similar system and it went off by mistake at 4.30, 4.35am. So everyone in the whole of Florida got woken up by their phone blasting at them and oh it was a little mistake.
That's what I mean, it's like they're incompetent aren't they, absolutely incompetent.I don't, yeah, I don't, I don't want them on my phone, not the way they were, they're scared, like everybody get in, you're not allowed to, you've got a mask up today, put your mask, full face on you, mouth and nose, you know, who knows what alerts they'll try and send us.Leilani, thank you so much for joining us today. Let me just bring this, obviously this is Mark Steyn's website, steynonline.com and there you are on the Mark Stein Show. What's the time again on Wednesdays?
8pm on Wednesdays.
 
8pm UK time?
 
Yes, yeah UK time. And I'm glad you got the website right because there was me saying it as well. I'm like, oh gosh, I work for him and I haven't even got it right. Yeah, steynonline.com.I get confused because his Twitter's Mark Steyn online.
 
I still could never spell his surname, but no one can ever spell my surname. So that's fine.No issues with that. Thank you so much for coming on and thank you to our viewers for tuning in or if you're listening later on a Podbean or any podcasting apps, you listen on the go.I hope you enjoy the conversation on audio. So I wish our viewers and listeners a wonderful rest of your Saturday.I hope you spare yourself that 3pm siren.But if not, I hope it, I don't know, alerts you to something that may be happening in your area at three o'clock.For me, it won't be an earthquake volcano. It could be an alien attack.It could be a nuclear missile.So we may not be with you on Monday, who knows. But if you're joining us on Monday, we will have, who do we have, James Harvey from Students Against Fascism.He'll be joining us on Monday, talking about what it is to be a conservative student these days, that would be many decades ago for me, and what it is like to have strong non-woke opinions, so tune in on Monday for James. And on that, good night to you all, and we'll see you on Monday.