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Amy Kelly - War Room & DailyClout: Exposing the Pfizer Lies and Coverups

Pfizer tried to hide it. The FDA tried to cover it up. But then came DailyClout and the War Room. The full analysis of 50 reports from the Pfizer data dump has now been published for the first time and Amy Kelly was the heroine who made it possible. She coordinated the efforts of over three thousand volunteer experts. Amy joins us to go through the most shocking findings of this report and gives us her insights into how, under her guidance, they put together the Pfizer jigsaw.Amy Kelly is the Program Director for the War Room/DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Project as well as being COO of DailyClout. She oversees the approximately 3,250 volunteers who are reviewing, analyzing, and reporting on the court-ordered, FDA-released Pfizer documents, as well as overseeing the approximately 350 volunteer attorneys who are identifying legal actions to be taken based on findings from the Pfizer documents. Additionally, she does research and provides answers to the public’s questions about adverse events found in the documents.Amy has over 20 years of experience as a Project Manager. Additionally, she is a certified Six Sigma Black Belt, certified in change management methodology, and has experience as a Business Analyst, Product Manager, and Strategist. Prior to working at DailyClout, she worked primarily in the telecommunications, transportation, and medical devices industries. Outside of work, she volunteers for education-related causes and in county political organizations.War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports eBook: Find Out What Pfizer, FDA Tried to Conceal Kindle Edition on Amazon.....https://www.amazon.co.uk/DailyClout-Documents-Analysis-Volunteers-Reports-ebook/dp/B0BSK6LV5D/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=War+Room+%2F+DailyClout+Pfizer+Documents+Analysis+Volunteers%E2%80%99+Reports+eBook%3A+Find+Out+What+Pfizer%2C+FDA+Tried+to+Conceal&sr=8-1Connect with Amy and the Daily Clout.....War Room/DailyClout Pfizer Reports: https://behindthefdacurtain.substack.com/Amy Kelly Substack: https://substack.com/profile/101872272-amy-kellyAmy Kelly on GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/akamericaDaily Clout Website: https://dailyclout.io/Interview recorded 3.2.23
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[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak. We've got Amy Kelly coming up. Amy Kelly is the Chief Operating Officer of, Daily Clout. Of course, we've had Naomi Wolf on many times who's the co-founder and CEO of Daily Clout. And Daily Clout, along with War Room, have produced a phenomenal document which pulls together, the Pfizer reports going through all the information that Pfizer dumped. And they've, have pulled together, I think, 50 case reports on all different areas. It is available to download directly as a PDF from Daily Clout and also is available to download on a Kindle from Amazon.You need to get hold of it. It is a seminal document that talks and shows the crimes that have been committed against humanity, against the world. They knew about it. The FDA knew about it.They didn't do proper testing.They got rid of documents. They got rid of trial documents. It's so much.[1:23] It is close to unbelievable, but yet we've seen it transpire right in front of our eyes.So Amy goes through so much of it, pulls together a number of the stories, and you will want to listen to it and you will want to get hold of it.So make sure you do. By doing that, you're informing yourself and also you're supporting the great work that, Daily Clout are doing. So enjoy Amy Kelly.
 
I am absolutely delighted to have Amy Kelly with me today from Daily Clout. Amy, thank you so much for your time today.[1:58] Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it.
 
Not at all. It's always wonderful to look at the work that you're doing with Daily Clout in many areas and obviously in the last two years been focusing on the COVID vaccines.We want to talk today about the e-book. All the links are in the description.And this has just come out a few weeks ago.Let me bring it up on the screen. And if people go to dailyclout.io, they can get a copy of the documents put together down load it as a e-book, as a PDF, you can download directly on Amazon. Everything is there. The links are all in the description. But before I get into the book, can I ask you, Amy, how you ended up taking on such an enormous task of pulling together all this information. What led you up to that point.[3:01] Well, my background professionally is in project management and I've also got a background in business process improvement specifically something that's called Six Sigma or Lean Six Sigma. So that leads into what I'm going to say next. I actually signed up to be a volunteer on this project and when you sign up in the volunteer process and ask you like what your skill set is and mine was not you know many of which were available to choose from like a doctor nurse or statistician things like that so I'd build in the other input project management and process improvement and it just so happened I submitted that[3:47] form at the time when everything was really coming together and they needed somebody to take over the project and manage it because so many people have volunteered. And so Naomi reached out to me and asked me if I would be interested and I was intimidated at the thought of thousands of people but very passionate about this cause and so I said yes I would love to give it a try and see how it goes. So that's how I got involved.
And let me just, this is it on Amazon. You can download directly there.And it puts together the 50 reports. And I, there, when you, when you go through and see the great thing about this book is one you can pick up, you can go through some sections, set it down.You're not going to be tested on all 500 pages off it. Don't worry.But there are a whole lot. So one of the reports, Pfizer mRNA construct, why spike proteins causes disease, report six, safe and effective.We baked a different red flags in the Pfizer internal documents.Report seven, COVID-19 vaccines and pregnancy, risky business.Asking what did Pfizer know and when did they know it? The FDA fails to mention risk of heart damage in teens.[5:09] Looking at the missing pregnant women from their trial. Looking at micro RNA, which I had actually never come across, with adverse effects, rising babies, breastfed by vaccinated mothers.I just want to reinforce that any issue, any area that the viewer, the listener will have on this topic is covered.Absolutely everything is covered in it. And it is something you can pick up, you can understand and then be equipped to discuss that.As you've begun to get involved in this, was there a time where you thought, this is just too difficult?Obviously, Pfizer had meant it, so it was nearly impossible to actually get hold of everything.So when you were going through the data, were there times when you thought, this is just too big a task?
Actually, I haven't really felt that way and the reason is is because we have such an amazing group of volunteers, doing this project. I mainly am just coordinating how[6:19] documents are distributed between them for them to look at and then reviewing reports that are submitted and so forth I mean, there's a lot of other things that happen behind the scenes administratively.[6:30] But as far as thinking it's too big or too intimidating They have been all in for this and I just am honestly awed by their passion and commitment to it.And they have fantastic skill sets. We have so many doctors and as I mentioned statistician, medical researchers and this, is their area and I get messages from volunteers all the time saying I love reading medical studies and I'm like thank goodness because that's what we need. One thing that was maybe a little intimidating about it is a lot of the documents are very I call it tables heavy like they have bunches of tables of data but they, the tables of data are in a PDF so they aren't easily analysed but I put out a call to the volunteers because I knew we had a lot of data experts data analysts and sure enough there's a group that came together and formed their own group to extract the data out of those tables in the PDFs and put them into an Excel format to make them searchable and much more easy for others to use in doing research. So I'm supported by lots of wonderful people.[7:52] And of course you had those three and a half thousand volunteers that came from all over, to pull this together.But there's one side, you can have the information, but obviously the issue is to get it out to, the public. And it's not just Daily Clout's name on the front, but it's also War Room.So tell us about kind of that partnership and the effect of War Room and Steve Bannon actually getting the message out.[8:20] Well, that's an amazing partnership and we are so thankful to Mr. Bannon and his team.[8:29] When the Pfizer documents started coming out, Naomi was on War Room already on a somewhat regular basis.And my understanding is they were on there one day talking about these documents.And Mr. Bannon said, we have the greatest set of people watching.They're highly engaged and we're going to put the call out to see if people will help analyse this.Crowdsourcing this type of research is new as far as I know.And he put the call out and the volunteers started rolling in.So that's really an effort that he made happen. And then he's been so supportive through the whole process of letting us talk about what we're finding and go on and highlight reports that the volunteers have done.And just none of this would have happened without him.[9:26] He is a force of nature. Certainly is.Can I, you begin as a summary and you go through some of the findings and maybe I can just pick some of those and let you talk a little bit more around them and from your perspective what kind of stood out.But one of them is, and all of these will just blow people away, is if we haven't understood how awful the situation is when it's laid out step by step, it really does hit home.I think that's one of the really valuable parts of this document.But on the first one, Pfizer's claim of 95% efficacy was based on only a tiny number of COVID-19 cases in the clinical trials, 170 cases in over 40,000 trial precipitants.That blows you away. You think this mass amount of people actually testing and then when I first read that, I think in Spectator quite a few months ago, 170, that's mind blowing.[10:33] Yes, it is that it's such a small subset on which that was based and that report is fascinating to me for a lot of reasons.The people who wrote it are extremely talented and know their stuff.And one thing that I found interested in reading that report other than the tiny sample that was used was that there were what we call protocol deviations.So each clinical trial has protocols that must be followed.They lay them out and that's what you stick to unless you formally amend the protocol.And what happened with this one was there were protocol deviations.And those protocol deviations led to several of those 170 people being in a situation where they really should have been disqualified from the trial.And if I remember correctly, the number that would have remained was 164.And that doesn't meet the threshold to get emergency use authorization in the United States.So they kind of ignored some things they shouldn't have ignored in order to push it through.[11:49] Wow. I just want to go through and pick up some of these and then we'll open it up.Another one, number three said contrary to public statements by Pfizer and FDA, both, were aware of data showing that the vaccine ingredients travel from the injection site, throughout the bloodstream.We hear a lot about that of the whatever is in the vaccine going into one part of you and then traveling.And when those questions were asked, of course, those people were dismissed as crazy, as tinfoil hat.But again, you've looked at the data and the FDA and Pfizer were aware that this was an issue.[12:35] Yes, they were for sure. They did studies called bio-distribution studies and you, know that's this big term that really just means where do things travel through the body when they are put into the body. Let's look at all the places, it goes. And they did those studies and saw that it did indeed travel throughout, the body via the bloodstream. It gathered in organs such as the ovaries and the testes and the liver even in the bone marrow basically any organ you can think of almost it gathered in and so they had that information yet when it was rolled out to the public all of us were told it remains in the deltoid muscle that it's injected to in your arm and doesn't go throughout the body so, that was just that's almost worse than the not having informed consent it's just lying about it.[13:37] And they knew. There's another, I love the way you put out a statement and the numbers and you have to think, oh sorry, did I just read that? So in number four, Pfizer did not expect more than 158,000 separate adverse events to be reported during the initial 12 week rollout.158,000.[14:03] Tell us about that and how they responded to that.[14:07] Okay. So that is the period of time you're talking about is called the post-marketing period.And so that started with, it actually started with the UK rollout date.So on December 1st, 2020 through February 28th, 2021.And during that time, they're collecting reports of adverse events.So they had, I can't remember the exact numbers, a little over 42,000 cases of people having adverse events.And then among those 42,000 cases, there were the 158,000 something that you mentioned adverse events.So people were having multiple adverse events.That is a shocking document to read through. The appendix is eight pages long of just margin to margin adverse events that people had happened.And some things are minor that you would expect more like a fever or soreness at the injection site.But there are truly frightening things in there that,all kinds of diseases and autoimmune issues, which is another disease and just, Shocking shocking things to read through. I really encourage people to look at it. It's around[15:31] 1,190 separate adverse events of special interest. That's what's in the appendix versus, Just regular adverse events there's ones when they say they're of special interest that are of particular interest to what they call the sponsor, in this case, Pfizer, and they want to do more research on that. But no one was informed when they went to go get the vaccine, let's say after February 28, 2021, that there was this long list. So once again, people really can't give informed consent without knowing that they might be subjected to those kinds of events.
Because certainly in the UK when we had our daily press briefings, I'm sure you had in the US as well, you got those death figures each day.There certainly was nothing about any possible negative side.It was simply you must get it. I assume that was the same in the US.[16:28] Oh yes, it was the same in the US. I've talked to so many people, especially since I got into this line of work, who said, know, they went and got vaccinated. Nobody mentioned anything negative. You just walk in and sign a piece of paper saying that you consent and they give you an injection. And there may be the rare pharmacist or doctor or nurse, whoever's giving you the injection that mentions that there could be some adverse event, but that's definitely not the norm here. And from talking to people worldwide, it sounds like it's not the norm anywhere.
There's another key element in this and that is the effect on babies.In section five, it says, as Pfizer tracked adverse events during the first 12 weeks of the vaccine rollout, 270 pregnant women reported a vaccine injury, but Pfizer only followed 32 of them and 28 of their babies died.Once again, they seem to hide this. You talk about medicine and you talk about groups maybe who shouldn't get the first ones and pregnant women is generally regarded as in that, but they seem to have disregarded that completely.[17:52] Yes, they really have and it's honestly been shocking and so upsetting to see that happening, especially given that they had this data from early on showing a very high miscarriage rate among the women that they did follow who were pregnant.[18:12] And in addition to that, the babies that do make it to full term and are born are also having issues a lot of times from the mother if they're being breastfed and getting those ingredients through the breast milk.
Is that information getting out? Because I know that I was at an event here in London 10 days ago, two weeks ago, and it was, there were eight people on the platform talking about being vaccine injured and talking about how their lives had been destroyed really.And there's very little help for them because it's not even believed.Is that story beginning to get out of the effect on this and then those people actually receiving any health and care for that.[19:02] You're speaking about the vaccine injured now?
 
Yeah, yeah.
 
Yes. I do think it's improving some.There, now that we're all being allowed to speak out a little bit more on social media about it, that message is getting out. There's videos being shared that are undeniable.And of course here, luckily, we've had Senator Ron Johnson, who has highlighted the vaccine injured.And now that we have the house has a Republican majority, they seem quite interested in pursuing that as well. So I think the message is going to get out. And I just think we've kind of reached a threshold where it almost can't be ignored. I was just talking about this with somebody yesterday, when you constantly are seeing people around you, either that are, you know, been vaccinated and boosted and keep getting COVID or they are injured from the vaccine and can't function like, they're injured. Some people may not think it's from the vaccine but they can't function like they used to or all the prominent people that we've seen dying and that's been reported is getting the message out more. I think we can't really ignore it in the same way it was being ignored previously.[20:24] Yeah, completely. So in number seven of the overview at the beginning, it says Pfizer's clinical trial documents suggest that this mRNA vaccine ingredient that instructs for spike protein can be transferred from one person to another by skin to skin contact inhalation and sexual intercourse through bodily fluids.And it's this term that comes up called shedding, which again, we were told nonsense and that was completely dismissed.It's in these documents to say no this actually is correct.[21:03] Yes, it was definitely a concern for Pfizer during the trial.They had it in their protocols, like you said, about skin to skin, inhalation and through, bodily fluids, including sexual contact.And so they knew it was a risk and we're looking out for it.And yet anyone who says they've experienced side effects from being around the vaccinated maybe living in a home when you're not vaccinated but you have people living with you who are, told you know, no you're crazy, that's a conspiracy theory.Even now when you look it up it's fact-checked everywhere if you look up vaccine shedding.[21:48] But it is a real thing and they warned against it and tried to keep particularly men and women, women of childbearing age separated during the trial.
Again, looking at men and in section nine, it says Pfizer did not evaluate adverse vaccine adverse effects on male fertility during clinical trials because the company was in a rush.That is an indictment. Oh, tell us, again, I guess there is a rush to get to market. But male fertility, fertility is fairly essential to the human race and yet they just weren't in a rush to get to, market and make money.[22:35] That's what it seems like. Yes, they really didn't look into it and toxicity tests they did during the trial.They did look at how females were affected and they're looking at rats in this particular situation.But they didn't do any, if I recall correctly, toxology testing on the male rats that had been exposed.So they just really didn't look into it. And again, going back to what we talked about earlier, they ignored that it was collecting in the testes, which clearly also affects men's fertility.[23:15] Yeah, because of it's-
 
And also, yeah, I was just thinking about how, as you see in that one report, everything is affected in male fertility, like the sperm concentration, sperm motility, certain cells that are related to reproductive organs that would affect in particular like still developing boys and stuff.Yeah, there were lots of effects they didn't put forth to fully inform people.
There is another looking at heart issues, which again is a topic that's coming up more more. And then this in point 12, it states during the vaccine rollout in early 2021, cases of, Mari pericarditis, words none of us knew before, inflammation of the heart lining and muscle, still can't really say it, were reported to Pfizer one month before the emergency use authorization for teens was granted. So tell us, because we hear a lot about this issue of heart problems, especially amongst boys.[24:28] Yes, I mean, there have been so many things that have come out and they were reported.As you might see even in the news now, they always say it's very rare, nothing to worry about that these boys or other people that are affected are going to recover. But what you listen to when you or what you hear when you listen to very well-informed cardiologists, is that the heart doesn't recover from that when the heart is damaged, it's damaged and you can't make it better. And there were reports of myocarditis and pericarditis in the post marketing period also. And in another report that was recently done about cardiovascular issues, we saw that they didn't include myocarditis and pericarditis in the cardiovascularcategory, they instead put it in an immune mediated autoimmune category.So it didn't count as a cardiovascular event. Now I did look into it and there is such a thing as immune mediated.[25:39] Yeah, I was like, again, like you not catching the cases of those.But that's from what I read a much more rare event than what we see related to the vaccine with myopericarditis, pericarditis, myocarditis.And so it was really sort of deceptive to not include it under the cardiovascular adverse events.
When you kind of look through some of these and want to pick up a few more, but the issue on heart issues, because here in the UK and in Europe, one of the vaccines that was available was AstraZeneca.I don't think it was available over there in the States.But that was stopped because of concerns of effects on the heart.But yet you've got Pfizer seemingly also concerns, but nothing happened.I mean, when you kind of look back and assess that, how is it that you think that one was stopped because of concerns, but another one was just given free rein and seemed to be the FDA knew some of these as well?[26:49] Right, and we ran into that in the US, not with AstraZeneca like you said was here, but with Johnson & Johnson, J&J shot, or Janssen, it's also marketed under.And they did pull that one back and say there's problems associated with it, but then they left Pfizer and Moderna out there still running strong with known heart issues associated with it.And of course, I don't know the inner workings of how they made all of those decisions, but it almost seems like they decided we're going to sacrifice one of them and then just keep promoting these other ones.And it's been shocking to me that they have not stopped it for the heart reasons.Now they are admitting that there are some heart issues.Again, they continue saying it's rare, it's passing.[27:44] I don't know that that doesn't seem true to me, but you're right.They know, and they just keep them out there and haven't pulled them back yet.I can't believe it because in any prior years prior to COVID, they would have been pulled, long ago for those reasons.
Because the conversation I had with family friends was, well, what's the rush?It can take 10 years for a vaccine to be fully developed, to be tested.And this is a miracle, if miracles are possible in reducing that time scale.But obviously there was a push to respond to a supposed threat and that's why corners were cut.But when you kind of look through some of the corners that were cut, what do you think will happen to those companies who have done this?Because the information is getting out there and I've seen Ron Johnson's Senate hearings and highlighting what's happening.The information is out there.Is it just that the US have been waiting for a change in control of the house to actually do something or the media can place it. When you look at that whole area, what are your thoughts?[29:14] Well, it definitely helps to have Republicans in control to do some investigating.The mainstream media is extremely complicit.I really view them as having blood on their hands or just completely ignoring what's been going on or that this information is readily available and they could be reporting on it.At a different time, this would have been like the biggest story in the world if they, had pursued it, but they haven't pursued it.And because so many corners were cut, the clinical trials have really been happening, since the start of December, 2020, and it's in real time.And control groups have mostly been eliminated. They wanted to eliminate all of the controlled groups, the mandates, and trying to get everyone injected so that you couldn't see the difference.[30:13] I personally think that there's going to be a lot of long-term fallout.So we're seeing some relatively short-term fallout now a couple years' worth, but who knows what's gonna happen, say 10 years down the road, when adolescents and younger people who were injected with these vaccines are maybe ready to start having families, And there could be all kinds of fallout from that.They may not be able to have a family at all or have the size family they want with what we've seen with reproductive issues.[30:51] You mentioned about the trials and here it states Pfizer phase three trial in humans was supposed to compare the vaccine group against the control group.So one group received a placebo, the other group received a vaccine and you look at them. That was supposed to go for two full years, but Pfizer eliminated most of the control group after four months.I mean, tell us again, that's short circuiting the system, but tell us about that, about removing those kind of control groups.[31:25] Well, I actually spoke with somebody who is very familiar with, for example, the FDA space and clinical trials.And what she told me was that when there is something that's considered essentially an emergency situation, it's looked negatively upon to withhold a potential solution from, those who are being in who are in the placebo group and so your company is basically doing the right thing quote-unquote to give it to the people in the placebo group because you wouldn't want to leave them unprotected and I[32:09] feel like that's being disingenuous honestly you know it feels more like they were trying to eliminate the placebo group so that you didn't really have something to balance it against but that's the official line of why you can do something like that.[32:28] Official and unofficial.
 
Yeah.
Now in one of the reports that I'm looking at, I can't remember which one, but talked about[32:39] withholding drugs that may have been beneficial. I don't know whether that was, I'm trying to find I don't know whether that was either Ivermectin or others, but again, we were told that you, get the vaccine, that is your protection.It's nothing to do with lifestyle or exercise and certainly there's no other drugs in the market. You must get that. Talk about that. I think one of the reports refers to that.[33:09] Yes, one of the reports does refer to that and I also can't remember the name of that drug off the top of my head.I believe it starts with a P, but they did know that it offered really good protection, against like getting severe COVID and being able to do treatment.It's the same thing we've heard with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.If there's alternatives out there, then they can't push their drug to that they want you to have because you might have access to these other ones.So they've been suppressed or, you know, just it's almost been whitewashed to like where, say where they don't work.These things don't work when we have so many studies that show that they actually do work really well against COVID.But of course, there's low profits in already existing drugs, especially if they've gone into generic.[34:06] Another reason for rolling it out to everyone as you mentioned profits, but there maybe are groups that didn't need it actually at all or were not at risk and that is of course children.And I saw the report and I missed it again, but looking at the rush and push to give it to children, that was a disconnect from them actually requiring protection from anything.[34:39] So I mean, just touch on that as well.
 
Yeah, there was never any evidence, in my opinion, that children needed anything to protect them from COVID-19 unless they had other are severely compromising comorbidities, then they might need some treatments.But as most of us have heard by now, children get COVID, they may not even know they have COVID.If they have it, it looks like a cold. And there certainly wasn't a need for them to have, a quote unquote vaccine against this.And yet I again think this is driven by profits. That was a new group that they could, essentially push this upon and make money off of giving it to them.And, you know, get it, at least here in the U.S., get it onto the childhood vaccine schedule has been part of the goal.And then it becomes almost required or in many states actually required because what's recommended is required to go into schools in a lot of the U.S. states.And it's been heart-breaking to see them do this and not only do it, but even suggest boosters for children.[35:57]completely. And of course, the reason why people were told they needed a vaccine, and I don't think you touch on it in this, but was because a test told them that they had COVID and therefore all these tests, which I think I read that there were two of the tests.I think in the UK there might have been 48 or 45 providers and I think two of them got, if I can remember right, two of them were based in two hotel rooms in Shanghai.The companies didn't exist four months before and I think the contracts were something like 50 and 60 million for each of them.But again, it goes back to the whole testing thing and I don't think that's something that's covered. But again, that's a huge failing. I mean, not necessarily connected with the report, but what are your thoughts on that? Because we were, I guess, told that many people had something simply because we were testing from a company that had never done these things before.[37:11] Yes, the PCR test, just such a nightmare how all of that has gone down.And even the person who invented those has come out and said they were being used in a way that they should not be used.And they set something called the cycle threshold at a number that was so high that it will detect like remnants of viruses that aren't even active anymore.And so you are getting back all these positive tests that are really false positives.And then, you know, the mass media is out there going cases, cases, cases and reporting that for at least a full year.And like you said, the tests are generally coming out of China.I did actually read a specific thing on the tests that were in Europe, that almost all of those were from China. And I mean, it's hard to trust somebody who is such an enemy of ours, that they would be putting forth something that is actually going to work correctly for us.And now, and at least in the US, that they've lowered cycle thresholds, You are getting nearly as many positives when they test people.But.[38:33] I just, I feel like that is one of the places we most went wrong was testing, testing, testing.[38:40] You know, most people wouldn't have even known they had it if they didn't get tested. And another example of that is all the people who went into the hospital, for example, you know, for surgery, or, you know, whatever happened, and they test them for COVID, they didn't have any idea they they had COVID and so then they become, they do have COVID, but they don't know it.And then they become a COVID case that can be counted and the ever growing pile of COVID cases and a COVID hospitalization case that they have to stay in the hospital for something.[39:16] Yeah, no, completely. Exactly the same here.There were just two other points I want to pick up and I really did want to give an overview many of the areas that it covers and the viewers, the listeners will be in no doubt that this is a publication that they do need to get and can just click that link in the description, whether they're watching the video or listening to the podcasting platforms, it is there for you to click on. Another one of the points was in September 2021, Pfizer and the the FDA did a bait and switch by licensing a version of Pfizer's vaccine called Comornity.And although they claimed the Pfizer emergency use authorization was interchangeable or, equivalent, Pfizer documents show that only approximately 4% of the EUA vaccine was interchangeable.So this seems that they went with the approval of one type of drug and then have something which is fairly different and yet carry over that approval which goes against everything the public would think that these regulatory authorities are there to do.[40:33] Yes, like you said, definitely a bait and switch. And the way it was presented to the public was just completely false as well, at least in the US.All we heard from mainstream media was that it's been fully approved.There's been a version of the Pfizer vaccine that's fully approved, we're good to go.And that's all people heard because they didn't drill down on these news programs and so forth about it, but the fully approved version has never been available in the US and, I'm not sure where it even is available. So when you would tell people, no it's not, we're still under emergency use authorization because that's all that's available in the US, a lot of people don't believe that because of what they've heard on the news. And so it was it was trickery, it was just outright trickery in my opinion on both the parts of the companies, the FDA as well as the media.[41:37] Absolutely. There was one thing which actually I hadn't come across until I read this and we'll kind of finish off in this point. And it says here that in point 13, it was Pfizer did not disclose, that its COVID-19 vaccine ingredients include microRNA. We've all heard of mRNA but microRNA, which was an important natural component of gene expression and regulation and are associated with many diseases as well as a person's immunity. And again, there was no assessment for something which was quite novel and new. That's again something none of us have heard of that we, are receiving and no assessment of the harm or otherwise of this.[42:28] And I do remember that report. Unfortunately, micro RNA is something I'm not very well informed about.[42:35] And I need to revisit that report to it was very technical, And well done by somebody who really knows it well, but,[42:46] like you said, it's another thing that wasn't fully disclosed and[42:51] there are published lists of what's that's allegedly in the vaccine, but I continue to hear that we still don't know everything that's in the vaccine, that that hasn't been fully released.I don't know which side is telling the truth, but I tend to believe the pharmaceutical industry is withholding some information.And yeah, it's interesting to read about things like the microRNA and there's another report on pseudo-uridine, I think it's called in here, that is another ingredient that nobody would be familiar with, but it's very impactful in what it can do and people need to be informed about it.[43:37] Wow. There's a lot in it. I think the whole area we haven't delved that deeply into is the whole attack on reproductive we've touched on a little bit. But Amy, just in closing, I ask you, when you looked through all of this, at the beginning, we were not aware of this information, this information then goes public.For you personally, as you've looked through this data and you see the completed product, what kind of sits out with you or has surprised you the most or shocked you?Just for you personally, what stuck out?
Well, one thing is just how much was known before or very early on and withheld from the public like we were talking about earlier.[44:31] I can't believe that uninformed or informed consent became uninformed consent and was just thrown to the side.And that was that's a tenant of medicine and it always has been and I feel like the people that were giving these injections knew that they didn't have the information to give to people.And so that's been horrifying for me, as well as what I see happening.Like you said, with reproduction, that's also been one of the most shocking things that impacts the whole world, you know, the whole population.And the fact that there was going to be all these effects on reproduction seems like it was handed out in the protocols as the clinical trials were being done.And then they definitely knew and had information in the post marketing period right after the rollout.And yet people were just completely left out of that.And I'm a mom. I have a college-aged daughter and I love her friends and stuff I've been around for years and I just wonder what's going to happen with all of them as the years go on.And of course with their male friends as well too.I'm horrified by[45:55] how the companies and our government and our public health officials have been willing to sacrifice, humanity for what appears to be greed and a certain narrative or control.And of course, that one of the other things that has really bothered me through all of this is how it was used to like mandate behaviour, and mandate what you put in your body, which I found horrifying to watch.So there's shocking stuff that comes out every day.We just recently had another report come out that during the post-marketing period, there were children that were 11 and younger that were injected down to age two months, which there's not anything approved for two months.And you just wonder how that happened and how people could be complicit in making that happen. So lots of shocking information in here.I think there's between all of these reports, there's something for everyone that's going to really make an impact on how they view what's happened to all of us.[47:11] Wow. Well, to our viewers and listeners, please do go to dailyclout.io. You can download it as a a PDF if you have a Kindle then that is it on Amazon and you can download from there.So very final thing, Amy, what's been, tell us the response because it's just out, I think the last time we had Naomi on was before Christmas and it hadn't come out yet. So for you having the product together, completed, blood, sweat and tears over it, it goes out. What has been the response after you've released it.[47:45] Oh, it's been overwhelmingly positive. We've had so much interest. There's been about 11,000 copies sold now between the PDF and what's on Amazon. And also, I don't know if you're aware of this, but we are going to be coming out with a paperback. And I expect that to be out in about two to three weeks. We'll definitely make announcements around that. We've had a lot of people say they'd like to have physical copies. It's been overwhelming and so many people seem[48:20] honestly kind of overjoyed at finally having access to the real information because there's so much documentation that the FDA has released the Pfizer documents and it's very dense and hard to read through so to have it in these digestible reports that are much easier for the lay person to read has been warmly received.
 
It's strange being overjoyed at bad news but truth has to get out and you're right the public need to be informed and these companies held to account.
Amy thank you for your time I really appreciate you coming along and sharing the book thank you so much.[48:58] Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.
 
Not at all. Thank you.

Mark Steele - 5G: Safe and Effective or a Weapons System?

This is an interview we have wanted to do for a while now after falling down a rabbit hole while reading an Alex Jones article a few months ago asking whether 5G was a weapons system.The topic of 5G is widely regarded as a tin-foil hat, crackpot theory by many but after the last 3 years we have learned not to trust those in authority and to keep an open mind as those in governance are often the enemy. Mark Steele is a weapons expert who has previously worked on projects for the Ministry of Defence, specialising in directional weapons systems, electromagnetic radiation weapons, direct energy weapons, EMP’s, weather modification weapons and he never shies away from what he considers the big picture. In our discussion he looks at the roll out of 5G and asks the big question: Is 5G safe and effective or is it a weapons system? It is all food for thought, be receptive to new ideas, never be afraid of asking the question and be ready for an answer that you don't always expect.Mark Steele is a British engineer, inventor, patent writer and weapons research scientist; an engineer with a materials science background, and inventor of the world’s first binocular optical wave guides, weapons sight systems, infrared thermal imaging head up displays, molecular reactors, signal processing, and transducer design, to name a limited few.As Chief Technology Officer (CTO) at the company that designed and brought to market the world’s first internationally approved head up display (HUD) product, accredited with a number of innovation awards, but more importantly regulated to a number of internationally recognized standards, including (DOT) Department of Transport ECE 22.05, as well as ANSI and others, he was relied upon in the establishment of international standards for augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) HUD systems.Mark's involvement with several research and development projects spans his entire working career and includes some of a sensitive nature due to Official Secrets Act 1911 restrictions and therefore he is not at liberty to disclose these in a public domain; suffice to say this work has led to an understanding of Department of Defense (DOD) contracts, the compartmentalization of weapon product design projects, and Directed Energy Weapons (DEW), whose existence has until recently been obscured and sometimes denied.For more information.....https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/Interview recorded 30.1.23
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[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak. Welcome to another interview on a completely different topic. Mark Steele is about to join us and it is on 5G, whether it's damaging, dangerous, unsafe. It's a topicthat's come up a lot and Mark Steele is certainly a name that always pops up when you look at this issue. He has worked on this, studied this for a long time, the dangers of electromagnetic radiation generally and 5G and the negative aspect of that, whether it's planned or not,whether it's a kill weapon. I've heard that phrase used. Actually that phrase I think I read from Alex Jones last year where Alex Jones leads, I think we all follow eventually. That's onething I've learned. But over the last three years, I think we've called into question so many things and 5G I think fits into that box of things that some of us have begun to question.When we're told the vaccines are safe and effective, I think we can ask same about 5G. Is that safe and effective as well? So the same question.[1:24] Great conversation with Mark. We talked all about his background, looked at the 5G rollout, looked at why it's dangerous, looked at how it can be used.A lot in, in 45 minutes. We could have gone a lot longer, but it is a big subject and it's good to, I think, keep it short, certainly for the first time.So I know you'll enjoy Mark Steele immensely. So here he is.
 
It's wonderful to have Mark Steele with us to unpack this. Mark, thank you for your time today.[1:55] Thanks Pete, that's just great to be on eventually so we can get the information about what's really going on.
I'm here now, the privilege of meeting Mark back end of last year and I kept meaning to come back to him and arrange a time to come on and hadn't and it was actually a friend over in the US had sent me an article on 5G and Mark's name was mentioned and I remembered I needTo get Mark on. So great to have you on. SaveUsNow.org.uk, you're very much involved in that.Actually, it's a political party, but there's a lot of information there as well. Do you want to maybe introduce yourself and touch on Save Us Now as well?[2:41] All right. Well, I've got a background, an engineering background. I'm an inventor, a patent writer and I've been involved in a number of projects over many, many years. I've spent well over.You know, 35 years in research and development, I've developed my own products, I've brought them to market. So I understand the, you know, the different types of, you know, how you go abouttaking something as an invention and then actually bring it to market. So through international standards, etc., all products have and are required to fit within some type of standardized regime.For safety. So you can't just be you know manufacturing things and send them across the world and them not being able to be safe to customers because obviously you're going to end up in a bit of trouble there.And what we've found is[3:34] A lot of this technology, they call it killer tech for a reason. Pretty lethal. I got myself exercised about the virtual reality headsets, you know, the VR headsets.I mean, how they got away with that, I'm not really sure how that's even trying to get away with it or even thinking that they can continue getting away with it.Not only does it make you sick, that optical radiation is extremely problematic.You kind of just, you know, focus optical radiation in people's eyes, but that's it. It's a whole other story to 5G. but it is interconnected.You know, the whole virtual world, this whole cloud computing network.[4:11] And what we did, I found in the early part of 2016, my local council had fitted LED streetlights with these antennas where they were spraying a lot of radiation, basically a spine piece of equipment,5Gs for back holing data out of its environment.Okay, so it basically just data scavengers and it's something that your local council want to sell to the highest bidder.Now, some of this equipment can actually listen to what people are saying.You know, you can actually pick up sound audio with them, some of it's urban radar.The really concerning bit, the equipment that we had in the Gateshead area, it had a dialectic, it was a high gain dialectic lens.Now that then, it's a whole other ball game.That allows me to target acquire and possibly do some serious damage or even kill somebody. These electromagnetic radiation weapons programs are working to seek weapons facility in the 80s.So understand about electromagnetic radiation, what we call direct energy in air, direct energy weapons.[5:18] They're lethal, all right. We know that because the Havana syndrome.Now governments have always tried to pretend that these pieces of equipment don't exist because they use them against dissidents.They've used them, you know what I mean? If you listen to Barry Trav, I'll tell you about the weapons that were used against, you know, dissidents in Ireland.Anybody who they don't like the look of, they can basically sit outside your home and pour this radiation into your home and cause you to have a neurological breakdown and actually cause physiological brain damage.So you can actually, you can actually, you can visit this, you can see it. And that's what we found in the Havana syndrome attack where there was a lot of misinformation being put out at first about it being an ultrasound weapon.I can tell you now these microwave radiation weapons are far more sophisticated.[6:13] Ultrasound is very helpful if it's for subsea, it's a far better medium to travel sound waves in and especially at distance.So you would use it if you're in air, you're gonna use a microwave radiation type weapon system. So we knew it was a microwave radiation weapon and what happened, the US government have had admit now.That the injuries that the embassy staff suffered were from microwave radiation because they're getting compensation for it.It was something they didn't wanna go there. These weapons systems have been around for 40s. The Germans were testing directional weapon systems on camp inmates.That technology went under operation, paperclip to the US. They then just kept on developing it.And some of this equipment is extremely, extremely sophisticated, far more advanced than what a lot of people would like to imagine.And you just don't see it because it's like I said, that's secret programs. Now, the Gateshead area, I spoke to the council, I spoke to a number of councillors and new councillors, so I spoke and I went to the council.[7:24] Which I explained my concerns about this particular type of technology.It was all just a little bit over the top of their heads. And I think deliberately, you know, these people are wilfully ignorant to this type of technology.[7:38] I explained how dangerous it potentially could be, how a great security risk it is, how these systems can be hacked into. I know the operating platform, the equipment that actually installed was already accessible by anybody.So this kit could be used for spying on the public, basically urban radar, it can also listen in on equipment in your home. And it was all part of this 5G network.[8:08] Local council denied it was 5G. They said it was some 2G piece of equipment anyway, I then didn't get anywhere with the council. That's why we set up the save us now movement.And it was to give us some political cover because there is an element of protection.[8:25] Especially, you know, I'm telling people the equipment that they're gonna install is gonna kill you I'm telling people exactly what we're now know to be true because in[8:33] 2018 when they took me to court, they took us to court to gag me. They had to gag us. What they said was I was frightening people in the locality by telling people that they would die from thisequipment that had been installed. Unfortunately at the time we only had a small increase, you know probably one two percent increase in heart attacks, two or three percent increase in stroke, which issignificant but not significant enough for you know for you to really you know get to the bottom of it and but unfortunately now we've got near 20 and 30 percent increases and week on weekwe're seeing an extra thousand people in the UK die and I can guarantee you this is the contaminated bio weapon which they call a vaccine and I know all about that program for tracking where on the battlefield,and it's interconnected with the 5G network but it they haven't weaponized it as a weapon yet because you you will see people when they weaponize this technology you'll see people just basically causing a tonic seizure and collapsing in the street. I haven't seen any videos of that in the UK. I saw quite a few of the tests of it in Wuhan and we've seen some from around the rest of the world. Now I know this might sound very very unbelievable and that's why I tellpeople that do your own research don't take my word for it. The council took me to court and[10:02] they said I was a conspiracy theorist, I was frightening vulnerable people and it was amazing that people actually believed me. However the problem that I had they had actually you know they put a lot of media coverage out, they took press releases out that went internationally,they were totally falsified, they were fabricated pieces of information and basically a criminal conspiracy to cover this whole thing up because what we had at the time in Gateshead was we had a large number of women losing babies in the full term had already measured the radiation levels in a number of people's bedrooms where we're getting lots of complaints so we had the actual evidence of this radiation impact and that radiation people have to always understand its accumulative overtime. So even though that's smaller amounts, you know, it's not as powerful as an x-ray,this radiation accumulates. So the more that you get, the more biological damage over time.It's how we get skin cancer.[11:03] Skin cancer occurs in people with you know poor diet etc but skin cancer occurs on people who continually go into the sun. So it's an accumulative radiation that's non-ionizing radiation and that's man that's natural occurring not man-made.Man-made something completely more toxic whereas you've got an immersive non-ionizing radiation emission from the sun that will give you skin cancer by the way even though they'll tell you you know these non-ionizing radiation emissions are perfectly safe however that's natural occurring it's immersive and weare symbiotic with natural occurring non-ionizing radiation we're symbiotic with it this man made something completely different it's toxic due to the square waves z-waves and the data packets thatare actually embedded in it, it brings it in this whole toxicity thing.[12:05] Can I just step back slightly because for me certainly, I think over the last three years during the pandemic, that a lot of people have begun to question a lot and I think it's intothat kind of reassessing our relationship between the authorities, the institutions and those we trusted.And I think when you come to this, we're told, don't worry, something is safe.Well, that doesn't mean it's safe. I'm going to question it. But for you, I mean, was there a point, was there something you read?Was it just a build-up of your knowledge and understanding that made you begin to question specifically on the 5G issue?
Well I always knew that you know this type of radiation causes pneumonia type symptoms so you know you'll get flu type symptoms viruses are inactive here what a doctor will exhibit you go to the doctors let's say you've got Epstein-Barr virus.[13:07] Now he's going to tell you you've got a virus what I'm going to tell you is you've been hit with a 50 hertz frequency which exhibits to the medical community as a virus most viruses, pneumonia, all these different, you know[13:22] Let's say medical conditions can be you know can be looked at there's some environmental pollutant that's actually caused them and obviously electromagnetic radiation man-made in particular.Is that pollution it's why a lot of people go in the sun you know when you go in the sun you get herpes simplex virus well it's basically just radiation pollution that comes out it's the bodytry to get it rid of this you know this pollutant that you've your body's absorbed you probably had too much and that's why you get people who go you know they go skiing and they end up getting their cold sores and how they get the cold sores obviously you've got a lot of light there but it's also reflecting on the snow and then bouncing back up into the face that's how you sometimes get a nice sun tan at the same time when you're skiing,So it's all electromagnetic radiation.So when the whole 5G thing and the whole coronavirus, corona is an electrical discharge by the way, on a 5G mask.So I mean, I'm not saying that that's, I think it's just people, you know, it's a bit like a corona from the sun, electromagnetic radiation emissions from the sun are called corona as well.So these radiation emissions cause all of the known symptoms that we saw exhibited with coronavirus.[14:47] But one of the things that we were alerted to early on was the flu vaccines and how the flu vaccines had been contaminated with tungsten was the main contaminant.Now, if I fill a body with tungsten, used tungsten in the filament for a reason. Okay. If I fill a body full of nano particulates.And tungsten is the main ingredient has no pharmacological reason why it would be in a vaccine.[15:17] And but if I hit that with a modulated frequency from any network you know wouldn't have to be 5G I mean obviously 5G is a lot more powerful it's a lot more focused so consequently it's going topose a significantly larger risk to people who've had the flu vaccine they're possibly going to get very sick and could possibly die and we know that there was corona type symptoms that medics were you know they were recognizing that these symptoms were right away 2019 well lo and behold 2019 was one of the main switch-ups for 5G.We were a test bed, Gateshead was a test bed, Bristol, Rotherham, there was other areas in the country so it's not an exhaustive list where these technologies were being tested. Anyway, we're going to the we get to the cold case.[16:11] When the council tried to gag us and unfortunately it was the biggest mistake they ever made because we got into the court and basically after they basically fabricated most of the evidencethey lied, fortunately had a police officer who was actually at that court case who told the truth they said I've made threats to kill several of them had and there was a police officer who wasactually in ear shot and he was one of the first witnesses on the stand and I made it quite clear about this threat to kill narrative and he said look Mr Steele I was you know Ididn't hear you threaten to kill anybody so I had one honest police officer who saved me from you know some possible other very serious charges of threatsto kill against the council the mayor, the mayor said you know I basically threatened her in the council chamber it's totally false, chief executive saidwent in the attacked in the council chamber that was totally false. Unfortunately you talk about serendipity there was a there was a chap who was actually in the public gallery a guy called StephenPreston he videotaped the whole thing so they'd basically lying in their statements and this video then pops up, judges watching it and he goes well come on Mr Steele how many times have you beento Gateshead council he's thinking this is a different time and I go once and he's[17:41] like you can see the judge totally dumbfounded so he's got these statements from the executive and the mayor saying I basically went to attack them and theyhad to eject us from the building and have us wrestle over the bill I mean you want to you talk about making stuff up I mean these people are just pathological liars but I mean politicians are, let's be honest.They've just proven themselves to be pathologicalized. I think we've got, you know, later, Sir Christopher Chew up probably a handful of conservatives, you know.[18:15] Bridgen who's doing a fantastic job, we've got some great MPs in there, I'll tell you what, we need a lot more because if this whole thing carries on it's going to be horrendous and.Like I said at that particular court case this equipment will kill and they won't be able to cover up the body count and that's exactly what we're seeing now. I did predict what was going to happen.[18:38] Let me put, because I think there are two separate things in my mind and I know I think I saw a similar statement from Alex Jones last year talking about people living close to 5G kill grids are going to die from cancer.I think we've all learned that Alex Jones could be called a prophet because a lot of what he says has come true.But there are two separate things. One is technology that has been used and with a rush to market, with a rush to making money, you have side effects. Another side is actually this is targeted for killing.[19:18] But on the danger side, because obviously you've got the electromagnetic spectrum, you've got x-rays, you've got microwaves, which can be very harmful if it's low burst.You've then got radio waves, which aren't harmful. Now you've got 5G, which we are told is not harmful, completely benign.But you're saying that part of the electromagnetic spectrum is extremely harmful. What is it about 5G? Is it because there's just going to be towers everywhere, that everyone's using it? Is it the widespread abuse? Is it targeted?Tell us specifically on that.
It's well there's two elements to it there's two technical parameters for 5G one's densification so let's say I had a large 2/3G network okay it could let's say be a telecare so a medical network I'll stick on every single on every single chimney pot and all of a sudden I've created a 5g network because 5g is about mesh networks and it's about densification now the densification the more radiation, the more toxic itis. That's how I know that that particular part of 5G, the densification is a weapon.[20:32] It's a weaponized part of it. The other specific, the other specific technical parameter of 5G is the focusing of radiation in air. So that can cause, there's a number of different antennas,phased arrays, one of the main ones where you have a number of different elements, you offset the signal and you cause a beam wave, a lobe of radiation in a densely packed field.And consequently and that's what they use for you know these active denial systems, they use a focused beam at the target, that's what 5G is. 5G is that equipment, it's the same equipment,However, the military will tell you that it's non lethal. That's absolute garbage. These are lethal technologies.I've got the pictures I can show you some of the victims. They're not.They're not healthy at all Uh, basically I'm gonna cook you to death. I mean some of these 5G mass. I mean we got some stuff.[21:35] Some antenna design 160 000 watts so you've got a thousand watts microwave cooker, are these can beamhundreds of thousands of watts and I mean we've got one piece of intelligence which shows it an antenna that can emit a 386 thousand watt beam in the main lobe at a target now. That's not going to cook a person That's just going to knock the house down.[22:02] so this equipment now one of the really interesting things if you look at the Microsoft.[22:11] Microsoft patents They've got patterns for delivering a cryptocurrency on bodily activity.Now we've already done the magnetiser's test, we've got guys across the country who are going out testing people near their magnets to show that they've got a magnetic field emission in the Deltoid.This is the people who, it's stable in the Deltoid. Some people that didn't aspirate the syringe consequently that, you know, they might just,could drop down dead immediately. It's where the nano particulates have migrated across the body.[22:50] But the real purpose of that COVID-19 injection is so they can inject a stable antenna in the deltoid, that can track you and it's all interconnected with Microsoft, the Azure,right, which is their 5G cloud computing piece of kit.It's all interconnected with the masts that they've attached to your street lights. So the street light furniture, Telenza,one of the main ones who are working with Microsoft to create this cloud computing system so they can analyse the data locally.[23:30] They can then harvest all that data back. The local authorities see you're their property so they're going to they're going to sell that data because obviously they can hear you they can see where your car's parked if your car's parked on a double yellow it'll get an automatic fine. They'llnot need traffic warnings to go out because obviously the urban radar can scan everything in real time and it can actually create this data that the council then sanction you if you put the wrong piece of material in a bin so they can monitor it smart bins they can see whether it's[24:06] if it's being recycled properly if it's not then you get another sanction this is what it's all about and also using goods in your home when you finish with your last tin of beans you put it in the bin and the next minute it up pops an advert for special offer for beans as that whoever whoeverthe high bidder. This is the technology that they're proposing what they haven't taken into consideration, the health effects. The health effects will kill are killing, we're seeing closeto three and a half thousand extra dead, four thousand extra dead over a five year and the five year average has been pretty big because it's been through a pandemic where unfortunately people whenthey switched this 5G on a lot of people who had had this these flu jabs were just dropping down dead, you know getting pneumonia type symptoms, basically it enhances the radiation that they were being bombarded with from the 5G switch on. So the whole thing's interconnected. Now I'm pretty sure behind the scenes is some very very nefarious activity going on because why would anybody want to putuh, nano-particulates into flu vaccines. there's no purpose for it. It was done deliberately, nefariously, and it was a malicious attack to create[25:27] this COVID-19 plandemic, and then what happens, they can then, they've come in with all of these control measures, you know, that, that central bank digitalcurrency, uh, you know, new type of digital passport, the digital prison, the whole digital prison warfare, your local councils have beenweaponized against their own populations. The trouble is with your local council, they're full of very, very thick people who want to try and encourage you to get into an electric car thatwill give you leukaemia and sterilize your children. But you see, they're that dim, they don't understand the mechanics what the real plan is depopulation and to steal all private wealth andall private industry private wealth so you've got councils now shutting down their local areas so traffic can't get down there private businesses then go bankrupt council gets into more and more debt because got more and more sick people got to remember since the switch on in 2019.They've actually added another half a million people to the full-time sickness register they've they've killed a few hundred thousand by the way,but they've already added another half a million to full-time sick.Now, anybody that understands the sickness claim issue at the minute, it's extremely difficult. I mean, I know a guy, he was smashed up in a car crash in 1976.[26:55] He has one of these disability scooters, drives around, has loads of health issues.[27:03] They actually signed them off just about six months ago and the reason for that is because you could actually go into the assessment, you can speak and you can get in front of a computerand you can use a computer because his hands are fine, you just can't walk around. So this is the type of activity and so if you think about sort of actually had to add another half a millionto those claimants that impacts on the local authority, it impacts on the local services,which and we can show that this radiation which does increase Parkinson's risk, cancer risk, diabetes, Crohn's disease, all these ailments, theseneurological damage, mental health problems, anxiety, suicide rates, stratospheric. You know I mean the Gateshead Council, it was so bad in Gateshead that whatthey did that carried out the study they've got a number of the institutions up here local universities to do a study and they came back and said it was universal credit that had caused this massive increase in in suicide however.[28:13] Bristol University had it was catastrophic, Bristol where students were committing suicide they weren't on universal credit so the whole narrative was that falsified and fabricated this.It was very similar to, there was a group set up in Sheffield and it was a Save Sheffield Trees Action Group.[28:39] Anybody in that group that mentioned, because obviously Amy who had the 5G contract to put this equipment into the street furniture, they had to chop down all the trees, large number of trees.Anywhere they found out there's somebody, a whistle-blower, the council wouldn't release the commercial contract and anyway, whistle-blower did release it.And they plan had chopped down 30,000 trees in the city so they could access this 5G network. Now, 5G in a sub gigahertz range can travel through trees.Not a problem, okay?The issue that you've got is when the trees get wet. if I was to pull what's called an EMP, electromagnetic pulse weapon, that would then cause you cause you problem but also the thing with trees they keep the cities cool and the whole point of climate change, I mean in Birmingham, I'm going to Birmingham, if anybody's in the area I'll be doing a talk on this on the seventh and I'm in court on the eighth, it's an online hearing but I have to be in Birmingham because of court.Well I'll be with the guy down there who's suffering absolutely horrendous,[29:55] like physical damage, psychological damage, burns skin burns off the radiation. He's EMF sensitive and obviously he gets rashes, burns, lots and lots of trouble with his body from this radiationpollution. Birmingham City Council have fitted 107,000 of these 100 milliwatt transmitters to every single streetlight. It's a legal urban radar network. It scans people's rooms, back holes allthe data. I don't know what collection cloud services they're using, but we'll probably find out. But this illegal urban radar, it's a total invasion of your privacy. Nobody warned you about it. Nobody told you anything about it. But these are a hundred thousand now. They'll tell you that,you know that equipment in if it's ignorant guidelines they only talk about one and not talking about a hundred and seven thousand you've got the multiplication of all these transmitters in a small environment and what happens this microwave radiation and those numbers a one milliwatt emission will cause a temperature increase okay so you'll get a thermal you'd actually feel it at 1 milliwatt[31:10] These are 100 milliwatt each and there's 107,000 of them and they're going oh the cities are getting warmer I wonder why I wonder why the cities are getting warmer and that's not the main the mainreason why climate change is happening that ionospheric radiate has where in the chem trail and where the chem trail in the sky and the bounce now that was over the horizon radar systems which Iknow quite a bit about and it's quite interesting a lot of these technologies are battlefield derivedweapon systems and they're coming to a town near you. I said they've weaponized your local council to do you harmwhich is in breach of the terrorism laws because it's a political agenda. The whole climate thing is a fraud. It's a total fraud, it's a total nonsense, a hoax just like that plandemic and what they're doing they're going to they're going to use that climate change narrative.[32:03] To force you into an electric car to sterilize you to give you leukaemia, sterilize your kids, they're putting radar, urban radar up which will now cause us cancer.So you've got ubiquitous amounts of emissions, urban radar, absolutely lethal where they're scanning the environment. Then you've got these urban radar transmitters on the street lights, 107,000 just in Birmingham. You've got this, all the smart meters, if anybody's got a smart meter, get it removed, it's all about control, it's not about you, it's so that they can control and switch you off whenever they want. Or they're going to actually burn your appliances out.All the appliances in your home now think about it, you've got a local authority right somebody gets on the phone and goes oh listen we've got a hundred thousand of these new LED tv. all of a sudden.[32:57] you wake up the next morning your led tv is broken and you've got to go and buy another one and they've just sold the advert on your smart and another smart tv you have in the house you see.The advert pop off special offer led I mean honestly this is exactly where they're going with this We, you know, this is the hill we're going to have to die on.[33:17] Can I take it? Cause I want to pick up on it being military technology because most of us have no idea what is actually developed and the public get to know decades later.But you've kind of got two groups of people. You've got bad actors and you've got useful idiots and both of those groups need to work together to prove something.When you look at the companies that are ruling this out, they are simply, I'm assuming, looking at making a large profit, getting market share. And that's what it's about to the shareholders. So when you've got a mobile phone company pushing a 5G network, pushing 5G phones, it's about making as much money for the shareholders.So are they simply useful idiots in this?[34:09] Absolutely, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Useful idiots, that's all they are.And your local councils, you see, one of the things with telecommunications networks, these mesh networks, first and foremost, the telecommunications act in Europe states they have to do these EIAs, these are environmental impact analysis.They haven't done that. You've got your local council allowing 5G, this large, the larger masts, allowing 5G masts to be installed.That's the government have told them, they've got to follow the guidance and not assess the environmental impact, not allowed to.So the councils are just doing as they're told, but they're in breach of the 2012 Social Care Act, which says your government and your local authority,the director for public health and your local authority in particular, has a duty to protect the health of the local population.So they're breaking the primary legislation so that they can follow some guidance because some twang in some government agency said.[35:12] Oh, by the way, when we do planning, we'll give them basic planning approval, but what we can't do, we're not allowed to look at health effects.That is just absolute, we can't look at the environmental impact.We can't, all we can do is look at the aesthetics. So if it doesn't look very nice, right? We'll put a big tower up, it doesn't look very nice, then you can object, but you can't object to it killing you, destroying the environment.Can't do anything and what you definitely can't do is look at the power output.[35:42] Councils have been given self-certification from the installers. All the installers we came across are empty vessels so that companies who don't have any assets or if there was any harm.[35:55] The equipment's uninsurable for harm. The tower itself is uninsurable from a fatigue mechanics perspective so it could topple on top of you they're not insured okay they're not insured so.There's no insurance they've just put this stuff in it's not tested to be safe it couldn't have been tested to be safe because if I tested it it would fail and that's why they never tested 5Gall the other communications networks your 4Gs 3Gs 2Gs 1G they were all tested for safety and that's why your first telecommunications masts got a fence round.But you see that antenna operates on inverse square law so you only have to be a few meters away from it and the radiation drops off significantly. I mean I wouldn't like to sit next to one for a long time.But you've got to remember you're driving past these, you're walking past them, you're only immersed in it in a few minutes and then all of a sudden the radiation drops off significantly.[36:51] What actually happened with 5G, they're putting masts on your streets, next to your schools, next to hospitals on top of hospitals. I mean there's one really interesting thing about UK hospitals youknow with the concrete buildings and the fabric of the building is actually starting to degrade to such a degree where they're worried that the roofs are going to fall in. Well if I pulse modulate[37:15] materials like with this energy because you know denser materials you're pulse modulating that energy's got to go somewhere and it can fracture materials like concrete, steel can allbe disassociated at specific pulse modulating frequencies that's how some of the vaporizing type of technology the weapons bits right they'd get really interesting as was so in 9-11 when the.Whole building just basically disappeared away across manhattan just blew away i mean that was that was quite interesting um i mean obviously they did use uh you know they did use normalexplosives but the more interesting part of that particular attack was the way just vaporized the building. That's the weapon I was invested in.[38:02] Tell us more about, because as this is rolled out, you see it in some countries being rolled out.I think South Korea might have been one of the first countries to have a network.What kind of data are you looking at? Because you're looking at data of the impact of the 5G electromagnetic waves. You can, I guess, test that.It's rolled out into a population. So how does that work? Because I guess whenever you see medical issues like cancer, we're all told cancer is going up, that seems to be linked to peoplegetting a jab. So that's a separate story. But changes in medical numbers, changes in cancer rates. How do you kind of analyse that and connect that back to 5G?[39:02] Well, there's a six sigma event, what happened in 2019, where the half a million people added to the sickness benefit. And it's specifically in and around the time when the 5G network was actually installed. radiation is an environmental pollutant. If I bring an environmental pollutant into anenvironment that all of a sudden a lot of people start getting cancer, the cancer rates and thereason why they're interconnected with the jab, the jab's full of nanoparticular contaminants.[39:32] If I then put the, when I vibrate that radiation at you and especially in the blanket coverage, which is the sub gigahertz frequency, travel straight through the body, but it has an effect.On those nanoparticulates because they then catch that radiation, they vibrate them and we can, you know if you look at explosives right,high-powered explosives on the battlefield create nano particulates. Now where soldiers you know get these you know I've got anumber of the you know these documents where post mortem you know people that have cancer in thekidney or the liver whatever and when they've actually you know done a biopsy looked at the soo-lec or microscopes they'veactually found that they what caused this cancer causing event is some nano particulates, so troops suffer it, you know, whether dealing with high explosives because you do create these nanoparticles. Nano particulates cause sterilization.[40:35] Why anybody want to be injecting anybody with any is just beyond, well it's not beyond our comprehension. We know they have a depopulation plan, we know they're attacking the West inparticular. It's all about, you know, depopulation, taking your money. If you understand the World Economic Forum, right, an international terrorism organization, right, who you've got most of your people in cabinets across the country, across the world, they're all involved with the WAF, the WAF,unfortunately are planning your death. They've got a plan in place, they're coming for you, fortunately, the whole thing seem to be falling a bit for them because unfortunately they didn't stabilize,the antenna in the deltoid due to rushing the technology getting people in check people not aspirating the syringe and consequently people dropping down dead immediately a lot of people thought uh yeah I'll not be having that so there's an awful lot of people haven't had the shot.Now, they have to come back.[41:35] And bring that again. Until you get every single person with that vaccine in them, their real life is totally at risk and that's the this is the problem. They're going to lock you down inthese digital cities, digital prisons, whether it be food supply or that and then they'll come along go you've got to take that. They have to get the tens of millions of people who haven't had it.[42:00] They have to get them vaccinated. So what I'm going to say to people is we are our adversary as a structured weaponized system against us we need to have a structured response toIt see I hear all of there's enough of us make no mistake about it what we don't have we don't have enough unity and the reason for that we've got a lot of state actors embedded in the movement. What I'm going to say is people, I always like to test them out very quickly,ask them some simple questions. Is 5G safe? Is it a weapon system? As soon as they go.[42:36] It's all, it's well, you know, that, that, and you, even if they're just ignorant, you don't want them about. If they tell you the vaccine's a vaccine or a biochemical weapon, we've got allthe data on that. I mean, Dr. David Martin does a fantastic job, not the only one, but does a fantastic job in identifying all the patents. In Bill Gates's patent, the antenna they've injected,into you that he's had a great deal of input into and bunged up all the different institutions to tell you that it's safe and effective. That antenna specifically so he can create a cryptocurrency.On your physical activity. That's what he's really after and he's put it in this Azure net with Azure.It's a Microsoft cloud platform so it'll be able to see you walking along the street from those transmitters on the top of the street lights so it's watching you and all of a sudden he's building a cryptocurrency on the back of it that's really where they're going, what he didn't know well.He probably did it's going to kill the larger proportion of the population so he ain't gonna get much on his cryptocurrency and at this rate we're seeing as of December I said it[43:48] early on the bio weapons got a two-year fuse for 24 months so it was the 8th of December in 2020 when they started the vaccines we're now starting to see as of December just gone.We're starting to see another thousand plus people every single week added to the kill rate.[44:10] If that carries on to the summer you know at the back end it's you're going to be there's going to to be 50,000 extra deaths per week in the UK and they've already killed them.[44:23] You know the fact that they've had that shot put in them. Now there is ways to mitigate it. If anybody's listening to this, you've had the vaccine, make no mistake about it, there is an antidote,get in touch. The greatest power to you is getting 5G stopped. I mean that 5G network, especially in the streetlights, can target acquire you and can eliminate you causing the atonic seizure. I just take you with an 868 pulse and that's it. You're dead.[44:51] Then I mean yeah if you've got somebody there who can start you back up you know if you've got a defibrillator on that then maybe you do have a chance. However if there's nobody about who knows how to use that equipment bringing your back round is going to be a problem.[45:05] Just to finish off, that connection between 5G and the mRNA vaccine and with them working together, I remember the first time I had Kate Shemirani on and she started talking about this.This was early on.I didn't know what to do with that conversation because it was just, wow. I think you learn things, you assess what's happening, you become more aware.But tell us more about, as we finish, that link between those two, because what you're saying the 5G masts can cause damage by themselves, but with what's in the mRNA, that that is actually helping it or affecting it in some way.So can we finish off on that?[45:57] You've got leakage of the mRNA, so if you've got these nanoparticles around the body and it's leaked into the body, then obviously the electromagnetic radiation pollution is going to be problematic to you. It just increases the toxicity because the nanoparticles they like sort of reflect.[46:12] They'll modulate at the frequency and what they'll do is they'll damage the cells, you get oxidative stress which is precursor to cancer. That's how you're getting people who are currently developing stage four, they're not even going to stage one, they're going to the doctors, they're not well,they get stage four and they're dead within months. That's what's happening.The other people where it's been stabilized in the deltoid it needs to be removed and we're looking at ways to get it removed but what I'm going to say to people get an ADM magnet, powerful earth magnet they're not expensive, test yourself in and around your deltoid if you get an attachment.Right get in touch with us we'll then put you on a protocol but what we'll do is we'll then goand take action. We need people, there's 30-40 million people in this country who are victims of a crime, they need justice and the sooner they start waking up to what's happened to them.And stop trying to pretend that you know it's something they just want to bury their head in, the only thing they're going to be buried in is in a coffin, right. They don't stop this 5G network,it's planning to kill them and the only thing that stopped it, this war in Ukraine could go hot.If it does, they need a civilian population. It's probably one of the reasons why they've held off.[47:27] Yeah. Mark, I appreciate your time. I'm glad that we got this sorted out eventually.Thank you for coming along and sharing your findings, your understanding, perspective on this. It's been fascinating. So thank you for your time today.
Thanks, Peter. I was pleased to be on.

The Week According To . . . Lewis Brackpool

Very excited for this one! Joining us this week on our regular irruption into the news, stories, headlines and social media is Lewis Brackpool.Lewis burst on to the alternative news scene with Rebel News and is now strengthening an already stellar line up at Ickonic Media, delivering more honest journalism and quality reporting skills whether it be documentaries, field reporting or writing, and this episode we take a deep dive into some of his recent articles. So as an advocate of free speech, we look forward to hearing Lewis' musings on this weeks topics including....- US secretary of state postpones China visit after spy balloon fiasco.- Nonce and former pop star Gary Glitter is released from prison.- Mother suing school who forced her 4-year-old to take part in a gay pride parade.- Climate propaganda in British schools funded by elite billionaire foundations.- Doctors suggest cutting the use of anaesthesia to “save the planet”.- Whitehall's Ministry of Truth: Secretive Whitehall units have been recording political dissent on social media. - The absolute state of CNN, reporting that black police officers involved in the heinous Tyre Nichols case might of been driven by racism.- Andrew Bridgen to sue 'Midazolam Matt Hancock' over criticism of Covid vaccine remarks.Lewis Brackpool is an independent journalist, broadcaster, commentator and a reporter for Ickonic media. His writing focus is politics, freedom of speech, news and current affairs.Here he discusses his journey into journalism."I’ve been in the alternative media for a couple of years. I was previously with another company, a Canadian-based company called Rebel News. I started there after being made redundant from my previous job as a flight attendant - or a ‘trolley dolly’ as they say!After that, I thought, ‘Right, I want to get back into politics’. I used to study it for a bit, but my views were completely different to what we were being taught back in the days of 6th Form, with all the programming that they were pushing on people, so I decided to make a YouTube channel.I did that for a year, built up some contacts, networked, really pushed out my viewpoint on various subjects, and then applied for a course to report on Rebel News." Now Lewis has joined the fantastic team at Ickonic Media and will continue to bring uncensored, unbiased and unique information in his own imitable style. Connect with Lewis.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/lewis_brackpoolTWITTER: https://twitter.com/Lewis_Brackpool?s=20&t=ugH3aHz8n6Su4agPZJouqQTELEGRAM: https://t.me/lewisbrackpool ICKONIC: https://www.ickonic.com/ Originally broadcast live 4.2.23
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Jaeson Jones - The Threats Posed by Unsecured Borders, Drug Cartels and Transnational Crime

The US border is a topic we have not looked at before and there is no-one more qualified to discuss this subject than Jaeson Jones.Jaeson is a renowned expert on the threats posed by unsecured borders and is a nationally recognized authority on the Mexican Cartels. He has lived and breathed the southern border his whole career and his insights into the drug cartels that ruin millions of people lives is unique. He explains what is really going in in the drug war and how people trafficking is very much part of that problem. We end our chat by looking at the solutions which are possible to combat transnational crime and regain control of the 2000 mile US-Mexico border.Jaeson Jones is a retired Captain from the Texas Department of Public Safety’s Intelligence and Counterterrorism Division. He managed the daily operations for the Texas Rangers, Border Security Operations Center (BSOC). He supervised Human Intelligence (HUMINT) operations in several nations and managed Intelligence lead operations for the longest 24/7 border operation in Texas history, Operation Secure Texas. He liaised daily with law enforcement and members of the intelligence community to collaborate with all disciplines of the homeland security enterprise.Jaeson was responsible for providing timely information and analysis necessary to prevent and protect against all threats. This included providing analysis and Intelligence to the Texas Rangers, Criminal Investigations Division, Texas Highway Patrol, Aircraft Section, and State Emergency Management Division. Given his knowledge of Mexican Cartel operations and threats involving border security, Jaeson frequently speaks to executives within all disciplines of homeland security throughout the nation. His focus is on best practices for combating transnational threats and the spread of violent criminal networks.He served as the Critical Incident Commander in the State Intelligence Center during both Fort Hood shootings, Austin IRS Echelon building attack, University of Texas active shooter incident, Odessa shooting involving four officers shot with over 1,200 rounds fired, Ranger Recon Mexican Cartel shooting, Murder of a Bexar County Sergeant, and the Bastrop County wildfire disaster.Jaeson has led investigations targeting Mexican cartels leadership and built programs that collaborated closely with the U.S. intelligence community to help save lives in Mexico and throughout the United States. Connect with Jaeson.....WEBSITES: https://www.jaesonjones.com/https://tripwirestriggers.com/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/jaeson_jones?lang=enFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/JaesonJInterview recorded 31.1.23
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Martin Sichert - AfD Bundestag: Leading the Charge in Questioning the Rise of Excess Deaths in Germany

The German analysis since the start of Corona vaccination program show that the population has seen drastic changes in disease patterns and deaths. This is the result of data from the Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians (KBV), which our guest today, Martin Sichert MP was able to evaluate exclusively together with data expert Tom Lause.In December 2022 they made their findings public at a press conference which provided frightening insights. With the start of mass corona vaccinations, the number of people who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” skyrocketed compared to previous years, more than fourfold. In every quarter, starting with the first quarter of 2021, more sudden and unexpected deaths were identified by panel doctors than in every year from 2016 to 2020 as a whole.Martin Sichert is the health policy spokesman for the AfD (Alternative for Germany) Party in the German Bundestag, is a member of MENSA and has a degree in business administration.To follow Martin online.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/martinsichertTWITTER: https://twitter.com/Martin_SichertTELEGRAM: https://t.me/martinsichertinfoFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/sichertmartinAfD Website: https://www.afd.de/Bundestag Website: https://www.bundestag.de/abgeordnete/biografien/S/sichert_martin-858038Interview recorded 23.1.23
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The Week According To . . . Matt Hoy

Welcome to our latest look back over the past weeks news, articles and social media and we are delighted to be joined by Matt Hoy.Up for discussion this episode....- Black Boy Lane in London renamed by local council.- Immigration: Home Office booking entire hotels for 2 years!- Taxpayers to shell out over £200k for Boris Johnson’s Party-gate legal fees.- Australian media report on the increase in heart attacks.- Calls to suspend covid 19 vaccines in South Africa because of safety concerns hits mainstream news.- U.K. to end COVID-19 boosters for people under 50.- Climate groups decry selection of oil chief to oversee COP28.Matt Hoy, until recently was a singer with UB40 (Feat Ali & Astro), he was dismissed by them and the management company because he wouldn’t take the experimental covid 19 vaccination.He is now back to being a solo artist and his latest album, Strong, is available at https://matthoyofficial.co.uk/product/matt-hoy-strong/Follow and support Matt at....Website: https://matthoyofficial.co.uk/GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/matthoyofficial_3311Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattHoyOfficial?s=20&t=36J481-HUH6A3tzwMrw3JAWorkers of England Union: https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/Recorded 27.1.23
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Patrick Wood - Davos, the WEF and Trilateral Commission: A World Wide Web of Control

Davos has been all over the news because the World Economic Forum have just held their annual gathering there and our guest today has been warning us for the past 40 years about the rise of these types of globalization plans and how we are losing control of our own self determination and independence as citizens. Patrick Wood is a world leading expert on technocracies and knows all about the workings of the World Economic Forum and the Trilateral Commission, and he makes a welcome return to Hearts of Oak to delve deeper into both organisations.Back in 1978 he co-wrote, with the late Antony C. Sutton, ‘Trilaterals over Washington’ which tells the story of the Trilateral Commission, founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski, with the specific purpose of creating a ‘New International Economic Order’.While Klaus Schwab and his institution take all the headlines, the Trilateral Commission gets almost zero media coverage and yet it is just as powerful, if not more so, than the WEF. Patrick explains to us what exactly is at play, who the main actors are and how worried the UK should really be with the fact that Sir Keir Starmer, the leader of the Labour Party and possible future Prime Minister, is a longstanding member of the Trilateral Commission.Patrick Wood is a leading and critical expert on Sustainable Development, Green Economy, Agenda 21, 2030 Agenda and historic Technocracy.He is the author of Technocracy Rising: The Trojan Horse of Global Transformation (2015) and co-author of Trilaterals Over Washington, Volumes I and II (1978-1980) with the late Antony C. Sutton.Patrick remains a leading expert on the elitist Trilateral Commission, their policies and achievements in creating their self-proclaimed “New International Economic Order” which is the essence of Sustainable Development on a global scale.An economist by education, a financial analyst and writer by profession and an American Constitutionalist by choice, he maintains a Biblical world view and has deep historical insights into the modern attacks on sovereignty, property rights and personal freedom. Such attacks are epitomized by the implementation of U.N. policies such as Agenda 21, Sustainable Development, Smart Growth and in education, the widespread adoption of Common Core State Standards.He is a frequent speaker and guest on radio shows around the nation. His current research builds on Trilateral Commission hegemony, focusing on Technocracy, Transhumanism and Scientism, and how these are transforming global economics, politics and religion.Patrick is also the Executive Director and Founder of ‘Citizens for Free Speech’ (CFFS) which is dedicated to preserving free speech and enabling citizens to exercise their rights as guaranteed by the United States Constitution.Follow and support Patrick at the following links...Website: https://www.technocracy.news/GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/PatrickWoodFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/TechnocracyRising/Twitter: https://twitter.com/stoptechnocracyPodcast: http://technocracy.podbean.com/Citizens for Free Speech...Website: https://www.citizensforfreespeech.org/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/citizensforfreespeech/Twitter: https://twitter.com/citizens_free'Trilaterals over Washington' and all of Patrick's books available on Amazon...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trilaterals-Over-Washington-Volumes-II/dp/0986373923/ref=sr_1_6?crid=31PUWCFBCX3P0&keywords=patrick+wood&qid=1674656655&sprefix=patrick+wood%2Caps%2C305&sr=8-6Interview recorded 20.1.23Audio Podcast version available on Podbean and all major podcast directories. ⁣https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more https://heartsofoak.org/connect/
Hello, Hearts of Oak. We have an interview just coming up with Patrick Wood. Patrick Patrick has been with us before, we're going to talk about the WEF, Davos, obviously just been happening, the Trilateral Commission, which Patrick has written about extensively.Back in 1980, he wrote probably one of the few books, there may not be any others on the Trilateral Commission.And we're looking at a worldwide web of control. These organizations weave through politics, through media, through academia, through NGO, through religious organizations.It is all to do with control. So much has been discussed, obviously, with those meetings in Davos.And Patrick talks to us, connects some of those organizations together, tells us what happens behind the scenes.We talk about the Young Global Leaders Program, how it's looking at the next generation. Should we be worried at King Charles, his close links to the WEF? He helped launch the Great Reset back in 2020, the WEF.[1:23] Should we be worried about Keir Starmer and his membership of the Trilateral Commission? Probably will be in number 10 in a number of years. Patrick joined us to look at all these issues and of course talk about technocracy.news[1:35] where you find a wealth of information and up to date news on all of these issues. Enjoy.
And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thank you once again for joining us on a pre-record coming to you a few days before and it is wonderful to have Patrick Wood back with us once again. Patrick, thank you for your time today.
My pleasure. This is always a good conversation.
Great to have you on, I think it was back in August.I remember vividly because I was on Holiday in Bulgaria, so I remember when it was because I didn't have my usual studio. But we want to talk about lots happening and if I can,just mention to the viewers, at Stop Technocracy on Twitter, it's very worthwhile a follow.But also the website, so technocracy.news, citizensforfreespeech.org will not get into, but that is the links in the description. So if you're watching, it'll be there, or if you're listening on the podcasting apps, it will be there in the description.But technocracy.news is really worthwhile following them. I think we are bombarded with information and it covers so much.It pulls in but doesn't overload it. Sometimes you get different news sites and it's overload where you're just getting maybe one or two stories a day and from different writers, different artists, different sources.[2:59] And I just think for the viewers and listeners, it's certainly worthwhile putting technocracy.news into your normal list of sites that you look at and you check out.So the links are in the description. And of course, make sure and follow Patrick on Twitter. But Patrick, I think we could start off with Davos.Davos is just finishing up. And it's strange thata little place in the middle of Switzerland would become a focal point of this crazy, huge gathering and of course invite only. I've seen a number of journalists there, saw[3:38] Rebel media there. Ezra Levant was there trying to interview people, talk to people in his great way. But Davos World Economic Forum, it's something people hear about and I think,over the last few years, people have begun to delve more deeply into this kind of secretive world. And it's one of these, probably the major organization in the world that controlswhat we do. And most people have no idea about it. So you've obviously, you watch proceedings from afar at Davos. Tell us a little bit more about kind of what happens and why people,go there?
 
Well, it's a number one is a networking group. Maybe people don't quite understand what that is, but in business, it's not unusual, whether it's a local or some type of a regionalmeeting where people get together and they trade business cards and they try and stump some business for themselves. That's called just networking. And of course, personal networking, when in a datingscenario, they have that context there works too, or you meet with a bunch of people and you say, well would you like to go out with me? No I wouldn't.[4:53] Whatever. But Davos is not a policy making organization per se. It really is more of a discussion slash networking slash backroom deals. Perhaps my guess is most of the dealsreally don't happen at Davos itself, but that's where they get together and make acquaintances and trade business cards and hey I'll call you and your people call me or whatever and it opens channels for business to get done you know for work to get their work to get done. What's interesting about Davos to me in particular is that the makeup of Davos is very the membership by tease is very similar to the makeup of the membership of the trilateral commission And this is not surprising because going back to pre trilateral commission days, which was founded in 1973.[5:51] Going back before that Klaus Schwab, a young Klaus Schwab was attending university in America.[6:01] And he ran into Henry Kissinger. And Kissinger took him under his wing.mentored him and taught him what basically Kissinger doctrine at that time.Kissinger was a visionary, but even back then he really was. And he encouraged Schwab to go back to Europe and start what now we know as the World Economic Forum. They wanted, and this was a specific thing.[6:38] Kissinger and crew wanted, and by the way, Kissinger was a founding member of the trilateral commission. He wasn't a co-founder like Brzezinski and Rockefeller, but he was one of the first members. That crowd spearheaded by Kissinger wanted to have a European beachhead.[6:59] And the way to do that, and this was before the trilateral commission was formed, the way to do that he believed was to start an organization like what we now know as the World Economic Forum.Bring leaders together, bring them together and indoctrinate and brainwash them into trilateral commission policy. When the trilateral commission was formed[7:21] they drew a membership from three regions. There was Japan specifically, which now is broadened Asia. And then there was North America, mostly from the United States. There were a few Canadiansand no Mexicans at the time. And then you have Europe. And so a third of the membership came from Europe, a third of it came from Japan, and a third of it came from North America.Well, the European contingent of the Trilateral Commission, which kind of operated together with the whole organization, but they also had their own leader, their own director for Europeand deputy director, and they had their own meetings in Europe as well, as they did in Japan.So what Schwab did, what Kissinger did with Schwab is he sent him back to Europe to start this organization, essentially a networking organization. It was followed up in a couple of years with the[8:22] Founding of the Trilateral Commission and all of a sudden now you have the real mucky mucks in Europe joining the trilateral commission by[8:31] invitation only. It was strictly invitation only and mostly handpicked by Zbigniew Brzezinski, I might add, and Rockefeller I'm sure had input. But the two organizations have worked in parallel.Ever since 1973. And originally in 73, the Trilateral commission was very secretive. They didn't want anybody know what they're doing. Even though they had extensive literature really of their, you know,we discovered their own writings. We were able to get a hold of their own magazine called Trialog.[9:09] Which is distributed mostly to members. But it was available. We got a hold of it for the asking, and we read them all. And we also read what the academics were writing that belonged to[9:22] The Trilateral commission. They were, they were open. They were, they published articles like in the, you know, New York Times and Washington Post and Foreign Affairs Magazine and you know,the Brown Journal and all kinds of highfalutin university publications. So getting literature on their writings on what they were talking about was not difficult. We attempted to expose the Trilateral Commission during the 70s and early 80s. We actually did break it down very well. Of course,we were censored to death. But they were secretive. And Rockefeller later in the 90s,when he wrote his book memoirs, he alluded to this very, very directly. He said, we're grateful to those media companies that we invited to belong to the Trilateral Commission. That included Newsweek magazine, included Time magazine, included the Wall Street Journal, you know, the biggies, right?I think Chicago Sun Times, there's about six different media conglomerates that were invited to be part of the Trilateral Commission. But they were allowed to attend the meetings,but they weren't allowed to write about them. So essentially, it became a gag order, right?[10:40] And so Rockefeller later said, well, we're grateful to all those companies that acted in discretion to attend our meetings but not to necessarily write about extensively what we were talking about.And well, it all came out in time. And you know, we know a lot more about it.[10:59] Everything we need to know about it today. We didn't maybe know in 1976 or 7, pretty new back then. On the other hand now, secretive as the trilateral commission was, and they still are.Very, they hold their cards very close to the chest as they say. They don't want anybody to seewhat they're doing even today. The world economic forum on the other hand is completely out of the closet. Yeah, completely. Wide open, spread it to the world. Get everybody involved that you can.[11:37] I look at it as the old kind of the old bums rush where, you know, where salesmen swoop in to convince some poor little old lady that she needs to buy this new car or whatever, you know, putspressure on her. And this is what's happened with the World Economic Forum in recent years. They're out of the closet. They're wide open. They're telling you exactly what they'regoing to do. Klaus Schwab, an academic, has been writing books like The Great Reset was one. Another one was The Great Narrative that they're promoting. So they're trying to convince the world right now,through business channels, taking all the doctrine from United Nations on sustainable development, which I believe is just technocracy from the 1930s, and shoving it down the throatsof the world. Their pitch is getting very thin. However, I just want to emphasize that.Their pitch is getting very thin, in my opinion. And I think a lot of other people are looking at at these people and say, who are these people anyway?You know, what on earth are they doing talking about nothing, you know, it's seemingly nothing makes sense.Just today I, I posted, well, we won't say when today is, but it's soon.[13:01] Your show, um, Al Gore, who is the poster child for global warming. What a nut.[13:09] This guy isn't just, this guy's just insane. He has a, he, he makes a rant in front of a large audience at world economic forum.[13:19] And when I say rant, he gets on the edge of his chair, he turns beat red and he shakes his fist. He's having it, you know, he has a rant and he's just letting them have it, belting it out. And I think back to the days of when he said all the polar bears are going to die and ice caps are going to melt in 12 years.Well, that didn't work out too well for him, the idiot. there are more polar bears now than ever before. and that and looks to me like the Antarctic and Arctic are still there[13:50] doing just fine, right? He gets up in his rant and he says, global warming, this is a direct quote, is the global warming adds enough heat to the, unnatural heat to the atmosphere.That is the equivalent of 600,000 Hiroshima bombs daily.[14:13] He says this publicly in the videos out there, 600,000 Hiroshima bombs every day, he says, it's the equivalent of every day exploding that many bombs.That's what's happening to our atmosphere because of global warming. And everybody in the audience like, wow, oh, Al, you're just so prophetic.How does this guy, how does this guy get a microphone?
Yeah, yeah. Well, also, John Kerry is there and he's of the same ilk. But can I, it's the, is there a difference in makeup because WEF is wide. I mean, they focus on with NGOs and academia,and religious leaders, not just political. And in fact, they've got the young global leaders program.So they're looking very much the next generation. This is not just to be a one off thing that dies out with Klaus Schwab, but this is something that will live long past him. Tell us about that,because there's a lot of thinking for the future. It's not just the here and now.
Oh yes, you're absolutely right. From day one, going back to the early 70s, and I believe that's where modern globalization was founded was right there with the Trilateral Commission.[15:35] Looking forward from 1973 they played the long game. Clearly they played the long game. It wasn't about, Oh, we're going to do this in five years. And by 1980, we're going to have all of our agenda together.They were long-term strategists and Brzezinski undeniably. I don't care what you think about Brzezinski, whether you love him or hate him. Brzezinski was a master strategist and all of the books he wrote, all of them were looking forward 20, 30, 40, 50 years. He played the[16:05] long game and Rockefeller the money man was playing the long game as well because his family I mean you know going back to John D Rockefeller originally in the early 18 1900s oil fortune thenBanking fortune and then medical fortunes they all played the long game they were used to playing the long game so when they said we need a new international economic order in 1973 they knew it wasn't going to happen overnight. It was going to take time. And so they started thatlong game. Well, here's the thing. The Trilateral commission was still the, they were the master strategist for this whole thing, in my opinion. They had it all pretty much laid out evenback then. But what they did not have, all they had was a bunch of grumpy old men meeting,basically meeting in a back room drinking scotch and smoking cigars. That's about all they had Originally, 300 people, 300 people. And that's not to be confused with the movie 300 or whatever itwas. They weren't anything like that, right? 300 people had to, their mission was to change the world. Now, how are you going to do that? Well, you need a couple of things. One, you need contagion for your ideas. You have to spread your ideas and you can't just put an article in New York Times or Wall Street Journal.Oh, man, that's it. We're all going to run after and do this now. That's not the way the world works.[17:31] So the contagion that they set upon eventually was the United Nations. As far as spreading the concept to other parts of the world and down deep into nation states.The year after the commission was founded in 1974, I found this document on the UN website. It's there.Is called the dec and this was a general resolution that was passed it was called declaration of the establishment of the new international economic order.[18:09] That's 1974. That's the same language that was used by the trilateral commission to create a new international economic order. Was that coincidence? Well, no, the Rockefeller familyhad had a long, long history with the United Nations already in 1973. They were the perfect[18:31] contagion for Rockefeller to tap in order to take the crazy new international economic order, Brzezinski called it the tectonotronic era, to take that doctrine to all the nations of the world,shove it down their throat and spread it, you know, just liberally spread it all over the world.The second thing that they needed to have besides contagion was disciples, true disciples, not just forcing it down with treaties and legal agreements and memorandums, et cetera.They needed to have disciples that would work within each country and each business entity order to implement the doctrine in a practical way, right? To action the nuts and bolts to make ithappen. This is where the world economic forum has blossomed as a training organization, not just,you know, Hey, let's get together in Davos and have some brainwashing stuff that happens, you know, and like Al Gore has got everybody convinced now that that 600 Hiroshima bombs are going off every day and you wake up in the morning and you think, man, I better do something about[19:45] global warming, these bombs are going to really get us, you know. But they do have the brainwashing type activities at Davos itself and other meetings. They have lots of regional meetings,by the way, all over the place. They're having meetings probably every day at this point somewhere.But they have started this organization like the young leaders group to train promising young people to take their position in society to be disciples for the new internationaleconomic order.And this is exactly what's happened. And you say, well, how could they do that?Well this is somewhat of a mystery to me, but those people who look at young people and decide whether they're top timber or not.[20:41] I'll give you a good example, I think another good example. What are the qualifications to get invited to become a Rhodes scholar?If somebody can answer that question, then it would be very instructive as to how the young leaders are chosen.They're invited. There's no application process to become, well, there kind of is, but you have to be sponsored.That's kind of the way Rhodes Scholarship is too. you look at the people, for instance, in American politics, and I'm sure it's the same there, you look at their, their extended bio and you'll see that they were Rhodes scholars.[21:29] At one time. That was a brainwashing type of a thing where they really got indoctrinated with the globalist theme. One big happy family, you know, one big global governance system. Well,Well, this has been happening now with the young leaders group for, I don't know what, 20 years, 25 years since it started.And all those young people, you say, well, how did they pick the one? Gee, isn't it strange?They picked the ones that all ended up in high positions in government, high positions in business.It's like, how did that happen? Well, there's a few outliers that didn't make it, right? I mean, they just kind of, they went through the program and then they went home and nothing happened.[22:17] But you look at Canada, for instance, half of Trudeau's cabinet are young leader graduates, you can't make this up.How did somebody know that those people that went through the program were going to get in? Well, maybe it was a push pull operation.
Maybe it was, Hey, we see this guy or this gal is extremely bright, is extremely malleable, is extremely impressionable and that's the kind of person we want to come to young leaders.[22:52] And then as they graduate, they get to know them a little bit.[22:57] Now they can push. First, they pull them in. Now they can push him out. Say, well, this person has the training to become involved with a cabinet member or be a cabinet member and Trudeau's government.[23:12] So they get, they get pushed into positions of power by those who network them in in the first place. We see this, I've seen the same kind of thing, by the way, happen with[23:27] secret society groups in America, like Skull and Bones. Same, same type of thing.Seniors in college or university in Yale in particular that belong to Skull and Bones, seniors are just seniors. Most of them dumb kids, you know,still trying to figure out where the sun comes up, right? When they're not,you know, passed out on the, you know, after a big, big weekend party. They don't know anything about anything. They don't know, they don't know where they're going. They don't know what's going on. But if you pass through the[24:01] halls of skull and bones secret society at Yale. You will be pushed into positions of influence where you can do the things that they taught you to do. And so we find that they show up in all kinds of positions of power. It's,incredible. Absolutely incredible. John Kerry is a bonesman, for instance. Lots of them, George Bush is a bonesman.
Can I jump to, you talked about young leaders, and for the UK, if we look at older leaders, we may think actually this is a thing, the UK kind of feels ourselves separate from Europe,we're not America, so we're safe.But I just want to remind our viewers, you can pick up on this, the great reset which we all hear about, which was May 2020. And that was together with the WEF and Prince Charles.[25:00] Now King Charles, Prince of Wales, sustainable markets initiative. And they launched this program together. So that means that, I guess, how worried should we be in the UK that the personwho is now King of United Kingdom was there two years ago or three years ago with the WEF,launching this great reset which is something which has caused a lot of us much concern.[25:30] Yes and it should. I don't know how you're going to deal with that in the near future, in the next two or three or four years. My first thought when he became King Charles was maybe all of his new responsibilities and activities might crowd out some of his nuttiness on sustainable development.
I doubt it. I'm thinking about I kind of doubt it. Because he has people he can just delegate it all to now, you know, you do this, you do that, whatever, and you canpush it out on other people. But it's a the thing, I think, actually, I think Britain is really picking up on this a lot of people in Britain, I think are picking up on this.And that is that what these people are doing is patently anti human. And it's anti anti-civilizational. And I think when people begin to hurt as a result of it, and right now people are hurting not only from, from medical issues, carry over of the shots or[26:32] whether it's a energy prices going through the roof. Uh, people can't turn on their, you know, get, get warm in the, uh, this, this hits the pocketbook. Now they're talkingabout 15 minute cities where everybody's going to be, you know, the lockdown and you can't go within 15 minutes of your or outside of 15 minutes of your residence. I see pushback. I see people say, wait a minute, wait a minute. That's crazy. That's crazy talk. What are you, we're not goingto do that. People just need to rebel against this. Honestly, that if there was ever a call for civil disobedience, it's right now, just settle it, settle it now before they come after you with tanks and guns and mustard gas, I guess, because it's going to eventually end up with,if the people continue to roll over to this stuff, they will eventually be completely annihilated.It's anti-human and anti-civilizational. And those people who enjoy their country, I don't know if joy is the right word, but you know, you get my point that appreciate the factthat they live in a country and it's their country. It's not our country. It's not Germany's[27:41] country. It's your country. Those people who appreciate the fact that they do live in a country that has a culture, that has a language too.[27:53] That has a history. This is very important to people. When they realize that somebody's coming to wipe that away, do away with it all, they draw the line. They say, no, I mean, even the most liberal,whoever, when they're faced with that choice draws the line. No, you can't do that. You can't have that. So it's going to be tough.
 
Can I ask you about information? Another story you put upfrom the WEF was that just published a report. And it talked about misinformation and disinformation being among the top global risks. And then you've got, that's the WEF saying that,at the same time you've got the WHO, the World Health Organization, another body, which has,I think, come to people's attention during the last three years. But they shared a video on Twitter citing their information, their claim that the anti-vaccine activism is deadlier than global terrorism, nuclear proliferation, gun violence.You've got, and once you've got an organization talking about misinformation being so deadly, then you've got another organization that they will work closely together putting out absolute misinformation without any back.[29:11] And it is this, I guess, battle for information, control of people. And it all goes down to control, because you control the information going out, you control what people do and how they respond and how they live.
Yes. Yes. I had a kind of a profound thought a couple of days ago that for all of the confusion and the finger pointing that goes on with quote unquote hate speech.[29:40] You know, the all groups, you know, different groups, you know, You know, while you're doing hate speech against me, no, you're doing hate against me.[29:47] And people get triggered, you know, but oh, that's hate speech. For all of the rhetoric that we hear about hate speech and misinformation and disinformation, they're all closely related in the big narrative.When you listen to the people at the World Economic Forum this week, talk about misinformation, They are absolutely obsessed with this concept.And it occurred to me why the only context for misinformation, disinformation and hate speech is in relation to their preconceived narrative. That's it. That's the only thing this is about.If you talk against them, if you criticize their narrative, then you're executed. You have committed hate speech because in their mind they're thinking that maybe people.Like you and me, I can't speak for you to speak for me.I've written pretty extensively about it.[31:01] They look at me and say, Pat would hate me. He hates me. that's hate. I can't do anything but have hate speech. I can't do anything but have misinformation.I can't do anything. I say is disinformation to them because it's their narrative that they are protecting and their narrative only there's nothing else in the world that that can be thatthat can be other than just confusing to people. But if you trace it back to the source, you cansee in their language, they are scared to death that people are[31:40] criticizing them for their crackpot policies. No wonder they should be, they should be criticized. Obviously they should, but the only way for them to shut that down is to shut down free speech.[31:55] That's their enemy. Free speech has become their absolute enemy. No wonder that PayPal pulled the finances of free speech union in Great Britain. Yeah. No wonder at all. You can't stand thosepeople. Free speech people get rid of them. They're criticizing us. They're telling us we're wrong.They're telling us we're insane. Like laughing at Al Gore saying is the equivalent of 600,000 Hiroshima bombs going off every day. As long as you let this continue, just want you to know that's what we're facing and it's going to destroy us. It's going to kill us all.And somebody stands up and says, Al Gore, you are insane. You're nuts. You belong in an insane asylum. Well, that's hate speech to them because how dare you criticize? Well, Al Gore thinks thatway. How dare you criticize me? The pontificate supreme of global warming, who knows everything and can foretell the future. Special tea leaves and tarot cards, I guess.But not one thing he's ever said has come true, not one[33:10] All of his crazy predictions have been completely discredited. And yet he still has a platform, yet he still shows up, yet they still give him a microphone,yet he still ends up with his videos on YouTube so the whole world can see it.If it was any other context, Al Gore could be compared to a homeless psychotic nutcase in San Francisco, babbling, babbling on the street corner, drooling into the gutter.It's like, what's the difference between the two? It's just nonsense coming out, cannon fodder coming out of their mouth. It means nothing. It's just totally untrue.And yet if you criticize them, they're threatened.
 
Is it true, I think I saw a report about the amount of money that Al Gore's made, I think, 300 million or 400 million dollars. Obviously what he's talking about is financially successful for him and he's benefited that way, irrelevant of any truth or not. It's money making business,for him. With these other figures, it goes past financial side, it goes to I guess an,absolute desire to control. Um, because certainly with the, with the COVID stuff, you think, well[34:37] It's just financial benefit, but if it was only that you could tackle that, but it seems to be much deeper.
 
Yeah. Yes. It, it is. And remember that Al Gore for years was a member of thetrilateral commission along with Bill Clinton. They served together president and vice president during the 90s. And, you know, this is his[35:03] alma mater, right? So he's been spouting the trilateral position ever since he became a member of the trilateral commission. And that preceded predated 1990 when he got elected.So Clinton and Gore did more to promote sustainable development.Remember 1992 was when the Rio conference took place and the Agenda 21 was created and sustainable development was born.Right. That was during Clinton's administration. So Clinton and Gore embedded that in the US government, US economic machine.Gore's been on it ever since. So it's Clinton, but Gore picked it up as, hey, I can make some money off this too. This is better than writing a book. You know, like a kiss and tell book.[36:00] This is better than that. I can make a lot more money selling, pushing global warming and getting these green investments in my portfolio. And, but nevertheless, yes. Is there more? Yes.He is a classic example of a technocrat. Classic.Pure technocracy is what's on his mind. control over everything in the end. And he wants to be a big fish in a big pond.
 
How has the Trilateral Commission got away from scrutiny?I know you have written about this. When I first began to hear about the Trilateral Commission, I thought just someone was talking gibberish and then I had to delve into it and really learn.Everyone talks about Davos is kind of this sexy high profile meeting that people want to hear about.It's on at the moment and our newspapers are full of, talking[36:56] about it. And yet when you look at the trilateral commission, I don't think I've ever seen a single article in the UK media talk about the trilateral commission. How has that managed to keep offany public agenda?
Mostly because they own the media or they'll say they control the media and they always have ever since 1973, they control the media. You're not going to get any stories come out on the trilateral commission, any mainstream media, nothing critical, nothing critical,ever. It's never been. The only time that there might have been a couple of critical articles are back in the late 70s, early 80s. But nothing came of them and they were not continued.The research was not continued. It's the most underreported story, in my opinion, of all of of the entire last century and today. It should be, but it's well documented. On the other hand,it's not speculation. They call it a conspiracy theory. You know, we were relegated as being conspiracy theorists. That is Anthony Sutton and myself. Anthony Sutton was a Brit, by the way.[38:09] Migrated immigrant, whatever, immigrant, he came to the United States, worked at UCLA as a professor of economics initially. But he was a Brit and great guy. But we wrote about and exposed thetrilateral commission and even back then, Tony, who was at the time working at the Hoover Institutionat Stanford as a research fellow, he was researching the trilateral commission. He hadn't written[38:40] anything about it yet, but word got out that Sutton was researching the trilateral commission.And the word percolated up through the Stanford network to the president of Stanford.[38:52] Whose name was David Packard, who happened to be, that's Hewlett Packard, David Packard, who happened to be one of the founding members of the Trilateral commission,like with Henry Kissinger, right? And so when Packard got wind of what Sutton was doing, Sutton's life was doing academic research and writing books. Packer said, this ain'tgoing in the right direction. We don't want a guy like Anthony Sutton breaking down what the Trilateral commission is all about. So they froze him out and drop kicked him, you knowfrom the 40 yard line out of Stanford and out of, they ruined his career.Essentially they kicked him out. Summarily, short period after that was when I ran into him and met him. and I had also been studying the Trilateral commission.Purely random meeting, but we met and we started talking to you. You know, something about the trilateral commission. We are. Yeah. Do you, you know, we just kind of mix it up.And we realized that we had such a huge story, especially with him telling me. I didn't know what I had old of, honestly.I was looking at it. I said, I know there's something wrong here. I just don't know what.[40:14] But when he came along and said, I can tell you from the inside. Now the research I've already done.And you are absolutely right. And this story is absolutely huge. And they are trying to squash it. And that gave us a reason to stiffen our necks and say, we're going to publish it. We're going to do this.We're going to report on these people and expose them. But we were censored to death. We really got hammered.
 
And that was back, what, 1980 was it?You published those? 1982?
 
Yeah. It started out in 1978 and 1980 was our last book. We did two volumes.
What else has been written? Have there been other authors? Have there been other books written about it?Again it's something you never see and is that really the main work that's been done on them?
Yes, you want and you won't. The only other book that I know of was a book by a gal by the name of Holly Sklar. I can't remember the name of it. It had the word trilateral in it, but Holly Sklar was on the left,side of the political spectrum. Actually, she was, as I remember, I think she was associated even, I don't remember if it was loosely or closely with Lyndon LaRouche organization, which was[41:35] executive intelligence review or something like that. I never gave any credence whatsoever to that organization by the way I had no association with them whatsoever but that she did write a book,and it did have some information in it there were also quite a bit of stuff that wasn't true wasn't right but other than that there had been no scholarly books written period none we were the[42:03] the first and the last and by the way I did republish I did republish Trilaterals over Washington into a single book. I can't hold it up here. I don't have one right here. But in a single book, both volumes and it's available on well, like Amazon and,Barnes and Noble, etc. It's also available on technocracy.news.
Well, we'll put a link in the description for people to get that. Certainly. Can I, I wanted to talk to you about the WHO new digital, I think it's just gone through in the US now where.Your vaccine status will be down for all to see. There's the whole thing on, I think the The Wall Street Journal just had an article and the title wasCentral bank digital currencies are coming ready or not. Those are two, but I think I'll park those because I just want to finish off. You gave a number of names of individuals.[43:02] Wasn't Jimmy Carter one of the people who started the trilateral commission? Was he there at the beginning?
 
Oh yes, the founding member. Yes, indeed. So was his vice president, Walter Mondale.
Well, I mean, it goes through US politics, but over here, I've seen that Keir Starmer is a member of the Trilateral Commission.He is the highest, probably British politician at the moment over in Davos at the WEF. He is also a member of the Trilateral Commission.He probably will be the British Prime Minister in probably two years.Our Conservative government, Conservative in name only, have done a disastrous job in mismanaging the British economy and doing everything a Conservative government should not do.And I think Labour will get in by default because the Conservative Party are so weak. But with Keir Stammer then positioned for power, probably in two years, how worried should we be in Britain?I asked you about King Charles, but the person in number 10 is the one who really does[44:09] set the agenda and make the decisions. How concerned should we be as Brits of the person going into number 10, the prime minister being a member of the trilateral commission?
Yes, I would fight it tooth and nail personally. I don't know how, but I would fight it tooth and nail. I'll give you an anecdotal story. Back in 1979, when the election cycle was going onto get rid of Jimmy Carter, worst president we ever had at the time.[44:43] Ronald Reagan was running for president and his contender was George HW Bush. That Bush was running in other words in the primary Bush was running against Reagan.
For the presidency, you know, to be on the presidential ballot.Yeah. And Bush did later become President, right? And he became Vice President for Reagan. But Bush was a member of the Trilateral Commission. And when we were in our prime of writing about the Trilateral Commission,there were a lot of Americans very upset, very upset. And the colour of our book at the[45:25] time was red and white. It was very distinctive. You could see it from 100 yards. If somebody held it up. You say, Oh, I know that book. Well, our members are readers of our book.We're going to the political meetings of George HW Bush. He was stomping for the, you know, for to get the nomination. And people would show up with our books and they would yellout, ask him, are you a member of the Trilateral Commission? Why are you a member of the Trilateral Commission. Why are you promoting a new international economic order that sounds like it's anti-American?You know, those sorts of things. And they were holding up a copy, copies of our book.As they would do that, they're asking questions right out of the text almost, right? Because they saw it was just crackpot. And so Bush took a lot of heat. Well, he went down to Florida, which is the biggest swing state at the time in the country, huge state. He was in Florida doing one of his political speeches, quite a few people in the hall, and somebody held up one of our books and hollered out a questionnaire, asked him a question, and he finally snapped.He melted down, started cursing[46:47] The, uh, the questioner just free. I mean, just completely just got beat red foul language, the whole thing.And he stomped off the stage.[47:02] And that was the end. That was the end of his candidacy.[47:09] He was like disgraced because cameras are on him. And the next morning, the headline in local papers said, you got to appreciate these editors.The headline said, have you ever seen a burning bush?[47:26] Okay, well, here's, you know, here's, here's the thing. Bush was dropped out. That was the end of him as far as the primary is concerned.Reagan cinched it after that and Bush dropped out.But when the convention started, back room bargaining with other members of the Trilateral Commission like Henry Kissinger.Basically said, Ron, it's George for your vice president.[48:03] And I'm sure Reagan said, I don't want that slime ball for my vice president. you're taking them or you're not going to get in.[48:10] And remember they tried to, somebody tried to kill, um, shot Reagan at some point and almost killed him.It would have killed him if the bullet had been just a little bit in one direction.But, um, you know, this, this is the way this group, this movement has gone forward is absolutely incredible.They are not indestructible. I have to say if enough, if enough people in your country got wind of what the trilateral commission was doing and has done to destroy Europe and the wholetheatre over there, they would be hounding this person with at least if nothing else with our book, they would be hounding this person everywhereThey went asking them questions.[48:57] Did you do this? Did you, did you support this? Why are you doing this? Why is this trilateral commission commission policy, blah, blah, blah, blah, and hound him to death until he melts down.[49:08] Get rid of him. But I wish there was more literature. I really do. You know, people can get a hold of our book and I say don't order it over seas[49:18] It costs bundles of money to send it from America to anywhere anymore. But it's available over there from electronic bookstores and stuff. I mean, you can get a copy over virtually overnight,for instance, from Amazon, do it. If you want to copy the book, that's how to get it over there and get it quickly. But we don't need any more of these people anywhere in the world. They are theenemy of civilization. Bottom line, they're the enemies of civilization. And if they're allowed to reign, they will in the end, destroy everything that we know and love. And this has been the,I wouldn't say unintended consequence, but people even back in 1992 to 1994, that attended the Rio conference where sustainable development was born observers who were participants, not people like like you and me necessarily.I mean, these were left-wing, you know, liberal environmentalists that went there. They looked at that, participated in that whole thing, and they came away and said, this is crazy talk.This is going, all this is going to do is the rich are gonna get richer, the poor are gonna get poor, and the environment is gonna get destroyed in the process.And that's exactly what's happened ever since. The rich have got richer, the poor have got poorer, and the environment is worse off today that has ever been in the history of our country or the world.[50:43] These people are, this is their policy. This is their policies that have done this to us. It needs to stop.[50:51] Well, I think that's a call to action to our viewers to, to learn and to act upon that information. It's, it's vital.Um, Patrick, thank you so much for coming on. It's always great to have you.And as I said, the beginning, I'll repeat at the end, Technocracy.News, I find extremely beneficial and helpful as I try and sift through the the amount of information we get.

Paul McGowan - Meme Wars: The Graffiti of the Internet

Paul McGowan is a rare breed. An artist well known for his controversial, distinctive and often political artworks who openly supports Brexit, Trump, and sits to the right of the political spectrum.This episode we discuss with Paul how he was targeted by the police, punished by the establishment and shunned by some of his peers in the art world for daring to think different. We also look at art in the 21st century and why memes have become such important tools in the culture wars and have become the graffiti of the Internet.Paul McGowan studied art at Falmouth, Winchester and Bath school of Art. His work has often created controversy and has been regularly featured in the press all around the world. He established himself as a fashion designer at a young age; when he was 20 he became the youngest designer to ever sell a collection to fashion house Browns, and went on to work for a variety of well-known fashion industry names, including Gianni Versace. During his formative years at Art School, he had his first exhibition in St Ives, and won the Tate Magazine Award. Since this time he has continued to develop a strong career for his distinctive - and often political - artworks, recognised locally in 2008 when he was appointed as artist in residence at the Eden Project.His work is collected across the world and he is a serial collaborator, often producing works released under different identities.Paul's works often provoke strong reactions. Perhaps the most unexpected was when in 2010 police in riot gear were sent to raid a central London gallery after one of the artworks - a fake bomb in the window - caused reports of a 'suspicious' device.His current work has been exhibited extensively in the UK as well as abroad.For more on Paul and to see his art...
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