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Friday Dec 30, 2022
Dr David Cartland - Healthcare for Patients, Not Big Pharma
Friday Dec 30, 2022
Friday Dec 30, 2022
As we bid adieu to 2022, our final guest interview of the year is with Dr David Cartland. With all that has happened over the past twelve months, we wanted a medical doctor to join us to look back at what we have all faced and what might be in store for us in the new year. Dr Cartland has been disciplined and punished for simply asking questions, the 'scamdemic' seemed to place all power with huge powerful global pharmaceutical companies who suddenly (we were told) placed our wellbeing above their desire to make profits for their shareholders. Many of us saw through this charade but the establishment smeared and punished anyone who questioned this new found sense of public duty that had appeared overnight. Care was replaced by greed. It is vital that we regain healthcare for patients and not for the pockets of Big Pharma.Dr David Cartland (MBChB MRCGP) is a fully qualified doctor and GP.He is also one of the most censored professionals in the UK.Dr Cartland has a 1st class degree in Biomedical science including a year of specialist immunology and microbiology/virology training that included statistical analysis, and it is this area of expertise that has had particular relevance and value in allowing him to professionally assess the mass of government, NHS, MHRA, pharmaceutical and ONS data on Covid-19 and Covid-19 Vaccine Adverse Reactions, which has been published since the declaration of the ‘pandemic’ in UK.
Between his two degrees David worked for a year in the angiogenesis research group at the University of Birmingham and he is a published author in angiogenesis research.At his graduation he recited the Hippocratic oath.Part of this powerful oath is a vow.A vow to ‘Primum non nocere’- first do no harm.After years of training and sacrifice, followed by many happy years in a professional practice as a highly respected doctor, in February 2022 David took the difficult decision to resign as a GP.
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Tuesday Dec 27, 2022
Kamal Fahmi - Time to End Apostasy and Blasphemy Laws to Free Muslims
Tuesday Dec 27, 2022
Tuesday Dec 27, 2022
As we step into 2023, did you know that currently 1.3 billion Muslims do not have the freedom to choose or change their religion? Apostasy forces people to remain in Islam and blasphemy laws punish those who disagree or dare to critique it. Kamal Fahmi is our guest this episode and he founded 'Set My People Free' in 2007, a network of individuals, churches and organizations working for the freedom of converts from Islam to live and practice their new faith, to experience equality and justice in their home countries without fear of reprisals. It is hard to believe that the punishment for leaving Islam is death in 8 countries, so join us as Kamal gives the story of 'Set My People Free' and of the ongoing fight to legalise apostasy and blasphemy.Kamal Fahmi is the founder of 'Set My People Free', this organisation seeks to give Muslim people the freedom to change their faith, to live out and practice their new belief, and to experience freedom, justice and equality in their homeland as non-Muslims.'Set My People Free' is a nonviolent movement seeking freedom, justice and equality for converts, reconciliation – not victory, and is committed to the life and teaching of Jesus Christ.Their goal is freedom for Muslim people to be able.....To change their religion or beliefTo worship and practice their new faithTo raise their children in their new faithTo marry (for women from a Muslim background to marry non-Muslim men)To have freedom, justice and equality. To abolish the crime of apostasy by removal of...Punishment of death for the act of apostasyPunishment of confiscation of the wealth of the convertNullifying his or her marriagePunishment of disqualifying him/her of the right of the custody of his/her childrenPunishment of depriving the apostate from his/her right of their inheritancePunishment of discipline (alta'zir)WEBSITE: https://freedom2worship.org/Interview recorded 15.12.22
*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.
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(Hearts of Oak)And good evening, Hearts of Oak. Thank you so much for tuning in on another interview. And it is anabsolute pleasure to have a gentleman I met, I think in Poland, maybe two months ago at the OSCE, and that's Kamal Fahmi. Kamal, thank you so much for your time today.
(Kamal Fahmi)Yeah, I'm happy really to join you in this interview. It is a beautiful opportunity.
(HoO)Great to have you. And the issues we're going to talk about are not ones that we offer. We discuss Islam indifferent ways, but to focus on apostasy and blasphemy we haven't done.So I'm looking forward to learning from you. And on the screen people can see the website,freedomtoworship.org , our viewers and listeners will find a lot of information about freedoms, looking at theMuslim world, giving stories, news items, articles. There's a whole wealth of information. I'd encourage our viewers and listeners to make use of that.But Kamal, you're the founder of Set My People Free, which is an international NGO focused on theabolition of apostasy and also blasphemy laws around the world. Maybe you can take a few moments and introduce yourself before we get onto the reason you set up Set My People Free, why it's needed. But first, if I can ask you to introduce yourself to our viewers.
(KF)My name is Kamal Fahmi. Originally, I'm from Sudan.And for the last 50 years, I was evolving in missions, mostly in the Middle East.In... I was born in Sudan and then I have lived most of my life in Sudan. Started the ministry mainly toreach out to people and share the gospel with them and then later I worked in the Middle East area all the way from Bahrain to Morocco and around 2008 I was challenged by the problems people who leave Islamface especially converts from Islam to Christianity I met a couple in Yemen and they were three generationChristian but they cannot live as Christian in their own country and of course in Yemen it is death sentence for leaving Islam and so they have to be kind of underground and I was approached by the father and heasked me for help because he wanted to convince his son to to study Islam in school because without that they were getting into trouble and also he will not be able to pass his school. And so he wanted me to talk with him and to see if I can encourage him to do that.And I thought maybe there is no problem, we had people who did that in Sudan.But then when I spoke with him, I saw the Son the next day, I was touched by the Son as he was a teenager,very smart, very handsome. And I thought I would not like my daughter to go through this. To be forced to say the Shahadah, to fast and to pray. And his father is a Christian. He himself is a Christian. And the father hasbecome a Christian when he was 19 and the grandfather was a Christian before the father and they cannot live as Christians in their own country. This kind of hit me, we are living in 2008 and they have left Islam,became Christians but they cannot live and exist as Christians in Yemen and and they should face a deathsentence by the law.And also on the side of the mother, the mother herself was a believer. Her grandfather had a problemwith his knee. Somebody prayed for him.He was healed. He also became a Christian. So these three generations, they are not able to live as Christians.And somehow I said, how could this be in the 20th century? that people cannot change their belief and facethis kind of challenge. And then in my mind.I started to think of different situations. When I went to Sana'a, the capital, I met somebody who wasalso in prison for about seven months or six months, who was a convert and he was arrested and he was in prison.He was not sentenced to death, but he was under a lot of threats. And then I saw the Mahdi Dibaj in Iran,who was also arrested just after the Islamic Revolution. He was a convert from Islam to Christianity. And he was put in jail for 10 years and he was sentenced to death, but of course they didn't apply the sentence and after a lot of international pressure he was released.And while he was in prison he said 'im not only willing to suffer for Christ, but I am willing to die.'And when he was released after 10 years, the guy who helped him to be released, got killed after two weeks,who was the pastor of the Pentecostal Church.And then later, the people said to Mahdi Dibaj, leave Iran because you will face death.But he said, I want to serve my own people, I want to share with them about my belief.And he was the head of the Bible Society. His only problem was that he was a convert from Islam toChristianity.Six months later, he was kidnapped. And a friend of mine here in Sweden, an Iranian believer said theyfound him cut to pieces in a plastic bag in a park.And so this started to hit me hard as I saw, as I looked at the situation.I realized there is death sentence in 12 countries, Islamic countries. They have death sentence for people wholeave Islam.And then in another 12 countries, you don't have the freedom to really leave Islam. It is a crime if youleave, you face torture, you face imprisonment.And it's not for all these people who converse, but even for atheists, who just leave Islam, they'll considerapostate.So that aged me, I felt the call that these laws should be abolished.Because apostasy is against article 18, who is very clearly say that it's freedom.and belief, which include freedom of religion, freedom to change belief, freedom to practice the beliefyou have as an individual, as a group, and also to be able to share what you believe with others. And apostasy does not give the right for an ex- Muslim to exist. You cannot really exist in an Islamic state. They face, as I said, in 12 countries, death sentence.Because the religion is written in the identity card, you cannot really change. So your children are automatically Muslims. If you are a woman who has a Muslim background, you are automatically also Muslim.And you cannot marry a non-Muslim, but also you face harassment and legally you cannot exist.You don't have the right to exist even in countries like Jordan, Egypt, Syria and also even in Morocco you face difficulty. So that was a problem. And then of course blasphemy is another bigger issue as if you say for example I don't believe inMuhammad as a prophet of God you are considered a blasphemer and this is ridiculous because if I believe in Muhammad then I am a Muslim but I am not to believe in him as a prophet. I don't believe in him as a prophet. So even just questioning the different laws of Sharia, you are considered blasphemer.
And a good example of that is theGovernor of Jakarta, who was, his name was Foke, and he was a governor for four years.When he was going to be elected for a second term, the Islamist in Indonesia said he cannot be elected againbecause a non-Muslim cannot rule over Muslims.There was a Hadith like that. And Hadith is a law in Islam. For example, the prayer, the five prayers, are not actually in the Quran, but it is in the Hadith.And they practice the five prayers. And that Hadith was saying that a non-Muslim cannot rule over aMuslim. and Foke the governor said this is a weak hadith.Saying that it is a weak hadith was considered a blasphemy. And he was sentenced to imprisonment. I don'tremember the exact number of years now but I think it was between two and five years.And he wanted to appeal, and people said to him, better not appeal because they want to execute you for this.They want to punish you by death. So he pulled back, he spent the time in prison and he was released.So from this, after he spent the sentence, and you can check this in the internet, I mean.And so from this, from sentencing this guy to prison, because saying the Hadith is weak,we said that a non-Muslim cannot rule over or rule over a Muslim was condemned for that.You know then that Islam is not really believing in democracy because there is discrimination against non-Muslims. They cannot rule over a Muslim. And the second thing is that it is blasphemy and itcan be punishable to the extent of death, fortunately, because they are a little bit more moderate. You aresentenced to imprisonment.
(HoO)Wow. Tell us more about those laws because people think that maybe in some countries like the Gulf states,you have more freedom. There are lots of those in the West that have gone to Dubai and UAE, obviously the World Cup at the moment is in Qatar, and they've tried to brand themselves as very open for everyone, but yet in Qatar, the death penalty is there for apostasy.Countries are are not free and they are all based on Sharia law, Islamic law. Tell us about, because most people in the West find it difficult to even understand countries that are based simply on religious texts and don't bring any other aspect in. So can you explain that, the way Islamic law is overall everything?
(KF)Right. It is the Islamic law is over the Constitution actually. They have this Kyro Declaration and it speaksabout freedom. They try to put all the articles which is the Universal Declaration of Human Right, but then at the end they say everything has to agree with Sharia. So it actually modifies what he said about freedom and so on but yeah this is a big problem, I have a map, you can actually look at the map in in our website where we put the countries it is in our first homepage and there is a they were about 13 countries which had descended we are thankful that Sudan had to repealthe death sentence two years ago but the problem now with the coup which happened last year there is apossibility that again as the Islamists took over again they go back to the same thing but the constitution was changed and then it was repealed.And that was a great work of our Minister of Justice at that time, who is not anymore, NasreldinAbdelbariBut the rest, there is still a number of countries which have death sentence, in their constitution.I mean, we have for example Mauritania, they have this sentence. And there is a fellow who was accused ofapostasy and blasphemy, mainly because he was against slavery in Mauritania. And he wrote a short article which condemned slavery and said that Sharia condones slavery. So he was accused of apostasy for that article. He was in prison for five years in solitary confinement. He was not allowed to take showers because they said he's akaffir, he's an infidel and they wanted to sentence him to death he said close to 1 million he said this is aquite a large number of people came out.asking his for his death this guy was released after a lot of pressure he is now living in France and his name is Cheikh Ould Mkhaitir. So this is serious. Maybe they don't kill everyone right away.But the person, the convert is under threat the whole time. And the problem is not only the 12 countries wehave in red in the map, people face danger, but actually where the law does not exist, the community does take on and apply the laws.So you have these, we call it honour crimes. They are not in any way honour. And people get killed living inthe white areas, which we say that the laws give freedom for people to change. I mean, you can go and see a list of number of cases or victims who didn't survive.They were killed like the in 2017 there was a Afghani woman killed in Germany because sheleft Islam and the guy who killed her they said he's crazy but it is applying the apostasy law even inthe white areas but then you continue to see the red it is as you said Qatar as Satanfor leaving Islam. I mean, you are free if you are a non-Muslim to become a Muslim, but for a Muslim toleave, then it is a crime.It is in Yemen, it is in Somalia, it is in Iran, and it is in Pakistan for blasphemy, and it is also inMaldive Islands, it is in Brunei.But then you have other countries, It used to be United Arab Emirates, but we have discovered just at thebeginning of this year they have abolished it but we are trying to find out if it is just real or it is just said that it has been done but we have checked with some people as they say they did that just this year the death sentence but we need more confirmation and to see that freedom for people to really exist because many times they don't want them to come out ofof the closet. They want them to be quiet and many times they will prefer if they leave the country.But these are the countries which we still have it, the ones I mentioned now. Even Kuwait has it. This I missed it when I said the other countries and of course as I said North Sudan officially has abolished it two years ago but of course still the community puts a lot of pressure. At this point there was one convert was in jail not so long ago, the last few months,mainly because we have now a coup of Islamists who are ruling the country.But the laws have been changed already two years ago and so I hope they will not go back again to death sentence. Then you have orange countries in the map and and these are places like Egypt, I missed one country which is actually applying the death sentence now is actually Libya because there's a guy by the name of Bia has been in prison now over one month they want him to repent to release him, this is country number 10 here but he he's still in jail.And they want to execute him, he's holding to his faith, he's a convert to Christianity And it is verysad. It is not in international media. If one lady was stopped from wearing a hijab somewhere, the media areso loud and turning the world upside down, and here somebody is sentenced to death. He's still in jail, mainly because he converted from Islam to Christianity. But nobody is talking about it. It is not out in the news. It is not news at all.
(HoO)Well that's why with the World Cup happening in Qatar and I thought it would be the last place I would wantto go to watch any sporting event. But there were discussions on, oh there'sno alcohol and complaints about that. There were discussions on LGBT rights and freedoms there, but zeroconversation on that the law says you can die if you want to leave Islam.And I was frustrated watching some of the media who should know better and should have used theopportunity to talk about that injustice. But as you said, there is silence on it.
(KF)Complete silence. They don't bring it up. And it is very sad. And I mean, it is quite serious. I was sitting inwith a group the other day and I said there should be sanction against these countries which apply death sentence for leaving Islam.There should be freedom to believe or not to believe but they said we should not use the hammer. But I meanthis is a lot of lives of people are at stake. There is lack of freedom completely. Freedom of thought and consciousness is trampled on. And the problem it is moving even towards the West, where the basis of democracy is freedom of expression. And blasphemy, law quench freedom of expression. So you cannot say I don't believe in Muhammad, it is it is considered an insult. Or if you I don't believe in the Sharia which cuts hands off people. So this is ridiculous and I mean people are free. I mean God created us free. He gave us the choice and I mean even Jesus himself said ifyou want to go to hell, go to hell. The road is wide and many people are going but if you want life there isanother way. So it is freedom I feel is very crucial and especially freedom of expression. We need to protectit because it is the basis for democracy and without freedom of expression there is no accountability. So analytical thinking, critical thinking is very important and crucial to talk about things, discuss things and have youropinion. The problem is we are going to a time when there is only one narrative. And this is not really theWest we were thinking about or we admire where there is freedom of thought, conscious and belief and then freedom of expression and opinion. Today you cannot have your own opinion, everyone has an opinion and so that is a problem. Blasphemy law actually strips the individual from the freedom of expression. There is a very good book actually called Silence, written by Paul Marshall and Nina Shay. And they said how apostasy and blasphemy courts are silencing or taking away freedom of expression. And they have any documented cases all over the world, which is happening because of these two laws. And so if we continue, of course it is in Saudi Arabia and you have examples of people who are in prison,journalists like Raif Badawi and Yemen people are being imprisoned and killed. There was a guy who was atthe age of 16 and they chopped his head, they shot him mainly because they accused him of of being an apostate and the young fellow he wrote in his fair book he said to them you accused me of apostasy you see God in the graveyard, I see God in the roses and you can look for this. His name is Omar (Mohammad Bataweel). I cannot remember his second name, but his Facebook is still there and he was at the age of 16 and he was killed in Aden. And you will find him in our booklet, victims of apostasy and blasphemy law. We have a small booklet and we have the link for it in our website. Youcan go there and see some of the victims. And it is sad to see the number of the victims. There was a small kid, also the age of 14, he was selling coffee in Syria during the ISIS attacks and so on. The jihadists came to him, he was selling coffee to help his family, they came to him, they said, give us coffee free.He refused to give them coffee free.And he said, if even the prophet come down, I will not give you coffee free. And this is a saying, which they normally say in Syria.When the jihadists took him and shot him, accusing him of blasphemy.So look at our booklet, victims of apostasy and blasphemy laws, you will see how this law is impacting lives of many individuals. Some lost their lives, some survived, but they went through trauma for this.We need to really stand together to see these laws abolished.
(HoO)I want to bring up the website again, and that's what people will find. That's the bookKamal was talking about, Victims of Apostasy and Blasphemy, Laws and Islam, and then further down that'sthe map we were looking at. So everything is on the front page of freedomtoworship.org.So please do go and make use of it. Kamau, can I ask you about you taking this message out,I obviously met you at the OSCE conference, an intergovernmental conference, looking at humanrights, looking at the political angle.You've been there a number of times. Do you want to let us know what you raise and the response you getevery time you've been there?
(KF)I think we are in a kind of a battle for heart and minds. I think most of the people have, they didn't notice,and it was an eye-opener to many.And I think there is more people today are aware of the problem. The only thing is, and of course therehave been moves to try to stop it.I mean, they agree, most of the people I speak with agree this is a problem.The only thing, we are not doing anything about it.It is not out in the mainstream media. It is not an issue which is people are trying to see change.They are trying to use a carrot instead of putting pressure to see this issue change.I'm thankful that they are putting some, at this point, there is a bigger change towards protecting thefreedom of expression. People realize more and more the problem.But I think they have to take a strong step to see this stopped. I feel we are in a better situation than whenwe started, but I still think we have a long way. When there was a problem of apartheid in South Africa, the whole world stood against that and worked for equality.Now here we have even a worse situation where you are not allowed to even exist as a formerMuslim. You are not allowed to exist. And you have in front of you 12 countries where you have deathsentence.We need to take bold steps to put pressure so Article 18 and 19 in the Universal Declaration of Human Rightsbe applied.Because without taking away these laws, you will still have problem with the issue of jihadists, withthe issue of terrorists, because here they want to enforce the application of these laws.But we need to stand and say enough is enough with this.This has to stop. We have the right to ask for the application of Article 18 and 19.So there has not been strong steps to see this stop. You see it with what happened with Charlie Hebdo andother journalists.I'm very thankful that the fresh government showed what the caricatures and so on. But I think we need more steps to put pressure and say what is right is right, what is wrong is wrong.And really stand behind the freedom of thought and conscious and belief and freedom to live, freedom not tobelieve, freedom of expression and opinion. And I think we need to take more strong steps saying this is wrong. Lately there were 25 countries which have signed a letter condemning apostasy and blasphemy law. And that was through the ministerial for religious freedom and this was done like three years ago.Of Trump when Brownback was the ambassador for the religious freedom. And lately Australia and are heading, spearheading with Holland, a campaign to end killing for religion.And which is mainly working to abolish apostasy and blasphemy law.So there is steps like this, but I think we need to take more steps to sanction the countries which apply it.Because without sanctioning it and condemning it openly, this will continue.And this impact lives of many people. I mean, you see what happened to Salman Rushdie now in New York.And this is again application of blasphemy law. And you cannot kill somebody for the way he thinks or fornot believing. And many ex-Muslims are facing these threatsworldwide. They are under protected by the police. Even here in Sweden, they are protected because of fearof people killing them. And so, but we have to stand together and sayenough, enough with this and this has to be stopped. I mean there is no serious steps which has been taken tocondemn this issue, condemn the issue of apostasy and blasphemy law, but I think people are more aware of it.Trying to do some steps, but as I said before, they want to use more, this using a carrot instead ofsaying this is wrong and this has to be changed and there must be somepressure applied, for the sake of people who suffer under this.
(HoO)But I, I also think it's, you look at the laws and you're talking about the legislation in Muslim countries, butalso you refer to the freedoms in the West and we think people are free to choose and change their religion.But I've talked to a number of converts from Islam to Christianity and they have to be extremely careful.They have been attacked verbally, they've been attacked physically. And I think, well, this is happening inEngland, which supposedly has freedom, but you realize that same understanding, that same belief systemthat restricts freedoms in Islamic Countries still is within Islamic communities here in the UK and it seems to be often the law of Islam is the one that reigns and not always the law of the land in those communities.
(KF)This is very true because we have a friend here who is a convert. that person had to be lucky because thatperson could not have passed, dot their degree in their studies for Islam inside Europe, if they knew their standards, that they are converts.They had to do it really very, very low key. That is in Sweden. And many actually under protection. And so you are right.You are right. They face it even here. But I think we need to condemn it more openly and say enough with it.And that really to work hard to punish any perpetrators or some people who does it. I mean, even likeNigeria, they have death sentence in the North.And now there has been a lot of attack against non-Muslims within Nigeria.And nobody is speaking against what is happening there. It is the main cause of it is again apostasy andblasphemy law and they are putting pressure on non-muslims to Christians especially. I mean blowing churches, attackingtaking their land and all these are initiated by these laws and again there is no international condemnation ofthis. They use other reasons to say this is happening. And I mean, it is a problem.And even just now, this time, even in Sudan, there is a man who has been a convert to Christianity, who is apastor in the church and God has been using him to heal people.He healed some of his family, so other other Muslim flocked to the church to get healing, and God hasbeen healing them. And then this guy was arrested and they accused him of being a witch.And mainly because they said he's a Christian witch, and he was imprisoned. Unfortunately, the laws because now are more free. There was a court case, he was released, but again he's under threats now by some of the Islamist communityfor what he is doing and I mean he has not done anything bad and mainly because he is a convert andbecause somehow lives of people have been changed, people have been flocking there becausethey saw God doing something and that has made these people more open towards Christianity which madethe community upset. And so even as you said before when... so we needwe need to put pressure, these laws to be applied and that to stand together to express the importance offreedom of expression and the right to say I don't believe in Muhammad as a prophet of God. Because I mean there is no force. You should have the freedom to believe or not to believe and which is the Creator has given this us this freedom and we have to have it and I think the freedom of choice is very key in democracy if you don't have the freedomof choice then forget it and if you die because you choose something different That is really awful. SoI think we need to see more people work for this.
(HoO)I just want to ask you about where, this will go just before Christmas. We are here, you said you're in Sweden, I'm in the UK, and we have freedoms here and we've talked a lot about freedoms and freedoms that are not afforded to those who live in the Muslim world.Tell us what that means for someone who is a Christian living in many of those countries. We have the joy ofbeing able to meet with other people, other Christians, many people who are not Christians still celebrate the joyous time of Christmas. And I guess in many Middle Eastern countries, in many Islamic countries, it's very different and you cannotcelebrate this time as you would here in the West.
(KF)Yeah, I mean like Brunei for example, some years, two or three years ago, they just forbid celebrating Christmas in Brunei, completely, for everybody. And of course there is minority of Christians who come who are living there and working there. I mean in Sudan before the fall of this Islamic government, they... people were going around on the streets, we went one Christmas in 2017, I remember, no not 2017, about 2000, maybe I think 2007, and they didn't want people to say Merry Christmas to the Christians, they don't want people to celebrate it.But, I see in many countries for the convert, they cannot openly celebrate.Converts who have come to know Christ, yeah, they cannot openly celebrate Christmas. In these redcountries and also in the countries where it is illegal.There was a Muslim guy who converted to Christianity.Wanted to go into a church in Egypt. He was arrested by the police because they discovered he's aMuslim going to a church. He was Sudanese.They put him in jail. They sent him back to Sudan. And that was like around, it was like 80 years ago.And so they don't have the freedom to celebrate as converts.They have problem to go to churches.But I think in a way, some of these countries, the orange, the red, foreigners are celebrating.But local people who are converts, they cannot really openly celebrate Christmas and go to church ormeet together and worship openly.They mostly meet in secret. But I mean at least some of course they have decorations, Christians arecelebrating where traditionally there were Christians.I mean the Christians from Christian background in Egypt or in Jordan or in Syria, they celebrate Christmasin Iraq.But if they are a convert they have difficulty to do that. But some countries have made it even difficult foreven the minorities or the Christians from other countries who are living in their country to celebrate.But converts, they don't have the chance at all to do that. And so it had been going in a way from one countryto the other.I mean, I passed through Qatar once, flying back during Christmas. They had no decoration forChristmas in the airport, not anywhere.I don't know how it is with the foreign churches.If they had, they can celebrate in the church, maybe in their own meeting or within the church compound,maybe in their homes, it should be possible.But there were no signs of celebrations. other airports in Dubai and so on you find a lot of decorations andChristmas things I think and the local, the minorities who are from other countries also they celebrate but I thinkconverts always will have problems, I know Brunei for sure doesn't allow Christmas celebration because it came out strongly, I think Somalia will be another place which will be very difficult to celebrate Christmas.The same is with Mauritania and of course even in Nigeria they face problems because the churches are attacked many times they are doing this and so it is hard to say Tunisia maybe is more open, we don't have it here with any of the colours, but still I think they face pressure from the community, but according to the law, now the church has been accepted in Tunisia. But as I think generally, where there is traditional Christians from the beginning, because actually Christianity started in this area and it has died in many of these countries, but where it still exists, they celebrate. But for comfort, it is very difficult. Most of them, they have to be underground in the orange and the red countries in the map. They cannot really have the freedom to openly express their faith in Christ. It is also similar sometimes, of course, even in the West, you find a convert from Christianity or from atheist to Islam, they always have their faces out that theyspeak. But if you have a convert from Islam to Christianity, they don't appear. Because then their life is in danger. And of course, you had the story of the guy who had Merry Christmas in his shop who was killed even in London once. So it is harder for the converts or for the more tolerant people within, but I think in a number of these countries where they were traditionally Christians sometimes of course because we have to separate between somebody, I mean it is likeSomebody saying all the West are Christians of course some aren't, the same are some of the Muslims are notpracticing Muslims, they're more terrorists, but if they are serious is their faith they can bedangerous. So it is not... so you can be nominate and some of these maybe are more open and tolerant withothers and open to have relationship and I mean through my life of course I had a lot of friends who are from a Muslim background but the thing is the ideology we have to think about and the more you are practicing the ideology then you are in more trouble and difficulty, I mean you cause more problems. So we have always to think of that. So apostasy and blasphemy law are part of the Sharia and when they are applied then of course it is a big problem and it is actually applied as we saw here in these 12 countries where you have death sentence for leaving Islam.And other countries where it is a crime to do that. But I think where there is traditional Christians, there ismore freedom because the church existed there for a long time.
(HoO)Kamal, thank you so much for your time. It's a subject that does not get a lot of attention, and that's why Iwas very keen to have you on. To the viewers and to the listeners,please go and make use of the website, freedomdoworship.org. You can sign up to the newsletter, you candonate, you can support the work there, and all the news items information is there. So it is a great resourceto help educate those of us who live in countries that are freeand realize that the world isn't all like that. So Kamal, thank you so much for your time today. It's beenwonderful to have you on.
(KF)I would like just to end with one sentence. What Martin Luther King had said once, he said, "at the end, Iwill not remember the words of my enemies, but the silence of my friend."And my plea for whoever watched this program, to speak up for justice, for these people who are facingdeath threat through their life,just because they refuse to believe.Or because they wanted to change, they wanted to become Athiests, they wanted to becomeChristians, they wanted to leave Islam.And so, please speak out, because injustice anywhere is injustice everywhere. And we need to stand forjustice, for freedom, and please stand forthe application of article, universal declaration of human rights article 18 and 19.
(HoO)That's a perfect way to end, to call for people to get involved and to speak up. Thank you so much.



Thursday Dec 22, 2022
Dr Naomi Wolf - DailyClout: Exposing mRNA & the Battle With Yale
Thursday Dec 22, 2022
Thursday Dec 22, 2022
DailyClout have done phenomenal work over the last year, they have somehow managed to pull together a volunteer team of thousands to sift through the Pfizer dump and make sense of that mountain of data. What Pfizer have tried to hide, DailyClout have exposed. Dr Naomi Wolf returns to Hearts of Oak to look back at the success of this work and to talk about the recent battle with Yale about mandatory jabs.Dr. Naomi Wolf is a bestselling author, columnist, and professor; she is a graduate of Yale University and received a doctorate from Oxford.She is cofounder and CEO of DailyClout.io, a successful civic tech company.Since the publication of her landmark international bestseller, The Beauty Myth, which The New York Times called “one of the most important books of the 20th century," Dr Wolf’s other seven bestsellers have been translated worldwide.The End of America and Give Me Liberty: A Handbook For American Revolutionaries, predicted the current crisis in authoritarianism and presented effective tools for citizens to promote civic engagement.Dr Wolf trains thought leaders of tomorrow, teaching public presentation to Rhodes Scholars and co-leading a Stony Brook University that gave professors skills to become public intellectuals.She was a Rhodes scholar herself, and was an advisor to the Clinton re-election campaign and to Vice President Al Gore. Dr Wolf has written for every major news outlet in the US and many globally; she had four opinion columns, including in The Guardian and the Sunday Times of London.She lives with her husband, veteran and private detective Brian, in the Hudson Valley.Dr Wolf's latest book 'The Bodies of Others: The New Authoritarians, COVID-19 and the War Against the Human' available on Amazonhttps://www.amazon.co.uk/Bodies-Others-Authoritarians-COVID-19-Against-ebook/dp/B09YNZ2GXV/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1662632232&sr=8-2Interview recorded 19.12.22Follow Dr Wolf and Daily CloutWebsite: https://www.dailyclout.io/GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/drnaomirwolfhttps://gettr.com/user/dailycloutTwitter: https://twitter.com/naomirwolf?s=20&t=C3Z2HzsjHsBtvAirPK3YoAhttps://twitter.com/DailyClout?s=20&t=C3Z2HzsjHsBtvAirPK3YoAYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU-FMBZNtCdSiYBgJdvJmXwTo sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more go to https://heartsofoak.org/connect/Please like, subscribe & share!
TRANSCRIPT
(Hearts of Oak)And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thank you once again for joining us. It's absolutely wonderful to have Naomi Wolf, Dr Naomi Wolf back with us once again. Naomi, thank you for your time today.
(Dr Naomi Wolf)Thank you so much for having me on again. I really appreciate it.
(HoO)
No, it's wonderful having you.
And if people don't know already how to follow you, at Naomi R Wolf down at the bottom on GETTR, dailyclout.io. And Twitter actually, I saw you've been let back and you're still looking at, but no apology for the restriction of information and the harm it's done. So yeah, what are your thoughts on that?
(NW)Yeah, well, I haven't tweeted yet because I'm waiting to be advised by my lawyer because we have initiated a gigantic lawsuit against Twitter and these other wrongdoers who have.Colluded illegally to suppress my constitutional First Amendment rights. A private company is free to censor whom they want, but in the United States, they're not free to get togetherwith the CDC and the Department of Homeland Security and the White House, all of whom have been confirmed to have colluded with Twitter. So I'm waiting, but as you noted.I did post on GETTR that I don't think it's cute at all. I don't understand people's kind of, you know, oh, hooray, welcome back. It's so exciting. These people, you know, we shouldn'thave ever let them become our town square. We shouldn't have ever given up the way human beings communicate with each other. We should not have let, you know, local newspapers diefor lack of subscribers because people got seduced by free news and the free news got scooped up by Facebook and Twitter. This is on us and we should never again let ourselves be kind of grateful for having our rights given to us. We've seen how that works. So they destroyed my life. I mean.In many ways, I took a six figure hit for my company. Investors pull out when Twitter castigated mearound the world as a crazy person at the behest of my government for whom I had voted.So I don't think it's cute. I don't think it's funny. And I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to go without a fight. They're going to pay for what they did. And it's not just about me. It's about every single voice that was silenced. It's about the principle of private companies, you know, engaging in literally the definition of fascism by coordinating with governments to suppress freedom of speech and dissent.
(HoO)Yeah, not completely. The other way people can follow you, of course, is Substack.So naomiwolf.substack.com and you get those directly in your inbox. And that's also a way ofsupporting you because what you're doing doesn't come cheap.We'll talk about the volunteer team, but I guess Substack is one way that people can sign up for free, but also they can go for a paid service and that helps you do what you're doing.
(NW)I appreciate you mentioning that. Thank you. to be super clear that my sub stack is my personal kind of platform on which I share all of my writerly thoughts as a writer and it doesn't go to daily clout. I just want people to know that if they want to support daily clout, would please that it, you know, that is super important, especially because we have five legal teams, demanding justice of the evil doers of the last two and a half years, which is very, very expensive.So people can get all my substack on daily clout, but they can also get the work of the 3,500 experts that the amazing project director and our COO now, Amy Kelly has organized into a research fighting force that's breaking headline after headline about what's in the Pfizer documents. And we've got a number of really important initiatives to support in 2023. One of them is clean voting, clean,you know, we're going to pass clean voting bills in 50 states and federally. And of course.We're aiming, as I may have told you last time, at launching a daily clout UK as soon as we can get the funding. But yes, thank you for mentioning that Peter right out of the gate, because we are in this crazy time in which they're like, I don't know, maybe under 50 reallycommitted freedom fighters with national or global platforms. And so many people are grateful to all of us, but not as many people actually realize we have to pay the bills, we have to pay hosting, we have to pay for equipment, production costs, editors, videographers, and all that support counts.
And to your organization as well, I hope everyone's sending Christmas gifts and Hanukkah gifts to Hearts of Oak because that's really important to you.
(HoO)Thank you. Thank you. And of course, this time of year, Christmas time is time for gifts. And we, I think the first time you're on, we looked at your book, The Body of Others, and that isavailable. If it's too late to get a hardback, I know it's available on e-book and downloadable as an audiobook.What's the deal with that being available? Obviously I'm here in the UK,it's probably not a book which you would find in your local bookshop. What's the deal over in the US? Has that been restricted at all? Is it simply available online from your website and from Amazon?What's the situation?
(NW)
Yeah, well Amazon, thanks for asking. Amazon did play a lot of silly games in trying torestrict access. Amazon is one of the bad guys in the bodies of others. So that wasn'tsurprising. That seems to have calmed down, but you're quite right that all of my books,I've been doing this for 35 years, right? I've written seven bestsellers and most of them have been bestsellers in Britain. And I've longstanding ties with the UK. I lived in the UK for many years.I lived in Scotland for many years, Oxford. Literally everybody in Britain who says they go into Waterstones or they go into even Blackwell's or any bookstore asking for my book, it's not out.The Body of Others is not out. And there's a kind of grudging willingness to order it. And the same is true in the United States. I mean, it was bizarre. We sold more copies for a number of weeks than the copies that were on the New York Times bestseller list of other books.Like thousands and thousands more copies. The New York Times just would not put me on its best seller list.So, you know, the body of others has had a journey, but it's getting into the hands of readers.You can get it on Amazon, I believe. You can get it, sometimes Amazon will say, we don't ship there, which is something Amazon never says about anything else anywhere.And you can get it at allseasonspress.com, but I do want to tell people, very exciting.There's a gift boxed set that's just been made available of my book and Robert Kennedy Jr's The Real Anthony Fauci together.And I really do think that's so exciting, quite historic because I do feel like those books should be read side by side.R.F.K Jr's book really tells the inside story of the crimes of Dr. Fauci, not just now, but leading up to now. He's not new at crime. And my book kind of gives the social and cultural and economic background for how Dr. Fauci exploited, and probably helped to launch the illnesses and promoted these injections of the last two and a half years. To the detriment of all of us.So I'm really excited to tell people that that's out there. Encourage them to gift it to your loved ones, especially those who don't believe any of it.It is a perfect Christmas present. It is a perfect gift to people.And that box says available on dailyclout.io. It's just there on the left-hand side. People can click on it and order it.
(HoO)Now, Naomi, you've founded Daily Clout back in 2016. And this year, 2022, you've done an overview of what it's been like in the three areas, you kind of focused on in it were what legal webinars to help citizens fight back against officials and employers. Five freedoms, draft legislation to protect freedoms. Pfizer vaccine trial research. Now, certainly for me personally, it's the Pfizer vaccine trial research that I know much more about. Tell us about the legal webinars because many people have found themselves in problems, certainly at the workplace and in different areas with officials with the tyranny we've all faced. So tell us about those webinars. And how they can assist the public.
(NW)Sure. Oh, just to note, I co founded it with a co founder named Lisa Thomas. But I am the CEO and president. And so thank you for that summary of our huge, you know, milestones in 2022. Again, with everyone's support, we could not have done it without the support of your audience and, and others.So the legal webinars are really an incredible model. Most of them have been with this lawyer in Buffalo, New York, named James Ostrowski, and he is a fierce freedom fighter, but he's also very, very good at explaining legal processes to people.A huge part of our mission in our kind of core deliverable is that we aim to demystify legislation.We aim to make democracy more usable by absolutely anyone, to disintermediate the experts who are trying to shut people out of the process.And so it's definitely on mission for us on brand to have a wonderful lawyer explaining to people, saving them thousands of dollars, how they can file their own lawsuits, civil suits, and also file criminal charges.So he did two really powerful webinars, one in which he explained to people who were very upset about, at that point, masking children in schools and injecting children,and teens with mRNA injections in schools without parental consent.In the United States, he taught people how to file civil charges themselves basically against any elected official from the school board all the way up to the governor you know all the way up to on a federal level which I love like why not right these people are absolute criminals and they need to be personally accountable because so much of what wesaw in the last two and a half years came from a clear sense of impunity you know these people thought they would never be held accountable personally and the other thing he taught people is how to file criminal charges with, for instance, your local sheriff's office.For instance, if they're masking your child, you notify the authorities that they're engaging in child abuse. And that's not a slam dunk. You still have to have enforcement.But it did, I know that all of these citizens filing all of these actions across the country, whether they were gestural or not, whether the authorities followed up or not, did createsecond thoughts and it changed the atmosphere.And as a former political consultant, and the same with the Five Freedoms campaign, where we met with legislators in five states to pass bills ending the state of emergency,mask mandates, ending vaccine mandates, allowing freedom of assembly, and opening schools because at that time schools were closed. We may not have passed all those bills in every state, but legislators have told us that the scrutiny and the empowerment of citizens really created a leverage point to break that kind of mass of tyranny and impunity state by state. So I know that that's powerful because people think twice when they get a lawyer's letter or when their criminal charges filed against them. They may not go right to jail, but they don't forge ahead in quite the same way.
(HoO)Tell us when you look back because I think one of the main focuses of Daily Clout when I started was looking at legislation and BILLCAM is there and it's quite a unique featureshowing what is happening, who's proposed amendments and everything is there. I know from working in parliament here in the UK it's sometimes extremely difficult to findout what is happening to make any sense of it. But that was your focus and what's happened over the last 18 months or so is probably a move away from that, although it is looks to look at legislation, but many other attacks. As you kind of finish the year, what are yourthoughts as you look back on what actually Daily Clout have achieved in a changing environment, I guess? (NW)I love your questions. Thank you. Well, just, you know, you're right to notice that Daily Clout the editorial side has really, I wouldn't say split away from legislation, the legislativefocus but you know expanded because of the the urgent civil rights threat posedby mandated vaccines. Like we're not, we weren't founded for health freedom. A lot of thepeople we work with, a lot of our allies, you know, were founded for health freedom.But right now in history in the West, certainly and globally, the way that human liberties are being restricted and human life is being threatened,and crimes are being committed is through the weaponization of medicine or medical discourse medical interventions, medical interventions. So that we have devoted a ton ofeditorial focus to that. But the, the kind of product side is, is still robust and we're kind of increasingly separating these into kind of two, not two companies, but two brands really, because we are just launching our business to business product, which I'm so, so excited about where you can, you know, if you're an advocacy organization, can get just ifyou do you know health care you can get just health care legislation in your ownportal if you're in finance you can get just banking legislation in your own portal and so on so that'll empower everyone you know but it'll it'll also be you know specifically focused onpresenting legislation in a way that is specific to your own whatever it is you're interested inspecifically. And I want to say that 125,000 people have used,BILLCAM a month. So it's really successful. So we're going to keep growing but in parallel tracks. And as you mentioned, Daily Clout itself, the big project that really was the hallmark of 2022 was this amazing assortment 3,500 experts going through the Pfizer documents. And I'm so proud of them and of Amy Kelly.
(HoO)But tell us about that because I know we've touched on it before, but that was a mammoth effort. And I guess the data was released in a way that didn't make sense and wasn't possible, to analyse it. Most people then would have put on social media and complained about that. But.Actually it's a different thing to complaining the situation and doing something about it.And you pull together that team and if it wasn't for the efforts of those volunteers connected with Daily Clout, with War Room, then the public wouldn't actually have been aware of all of the failings through that process.
(NW)Yeah, that was honestly, I just can't even explain the success of that project without feeling like we had some kind of metaphysical wind at our backs, because you can imagine,And I really cannot take credit for it.I mean, when I tried to say, okay, we're going to put a call out for experts to read these documents, because I really do believe in and I've had good experience like crowdsourcing expertise, that's part of the idea behind BILLCAM, right?Like people can comment on these dense pieces of legislation and illuminate them kind of collectively.But when I went before the great Amy Kelly, I, and even my colleagues, we werehurting cats.I mean, it was like literally beyond anyone's managerial ability or, or even like, how do you even digitally manage 3,500 experts reading through 55,000 documents?But Amy Kelly has supernatural powers of management and organization.I literally don't understand how she does it, but she came in and, you know, the only credit I can take is that I recognize incredible leadership skills when I see them. And she did us the honour of becoming our project manager and now our COO, as well as our project manager.And she just magically organized these 3500 experts in medicine and science, biostatisticians, medical fraud investigators, data analysts, lab clinicians, physicians,nurses into six teams.And then there's kind of an expert group reviewing the work of each of the six teams. And then it goes through a checking process with a meta team.And then it goes through editorials so that we take, and this is again, This is the only other little piece I can take credit for.It's very hard to turn even the most accessible medical writing into journalism that everyone can understand.But it's so important for everyone to understand it. So there's a robust kind of back and forth to get those reports readable.And then we launch them. But I've just got to credit her. And these 3,500 people who are literally around the world working for free, drawing on their expertise, many of them can't even be named because they're kind of doing it surreptitiously because they would get fired, you know, if they use their expertise publicly to help their fellow human beings and to stop the greatest medical fraud in human history and not just greatest medical fraud, but to stop what is clearly turning into a mass murder event.So I just like, it's so beautiful that these 3,500 nameless souls, you know, labour and serve humanity in this way.And we also have these 250 volunteer lawyers, many of whom have now started to write letters, to attorneys general across the United States, warning them of reckless endangerment, of fraud, of misleading advertising, various crimes that Pfizer is committing specifically.
(HoO)Well, there are many things which you've helped expose. I know just this week, I think it was a few days ago, you were talking about hypertension. And whenever the layperson hears terms, I think, well, it doesn't sound good. But on the article you put this, known as elevated blood pressure, a serious medical condition that significantly increases the risk of heart, brain, kidney, and other diseases.And you were talking about this of what you've pulled out from the Pfizer, but also from VAERS data, which just adds to everything else that is coming out. Do you want to let us know what you've found on that?
(NW)Sure. It's very important. I mean, this team has foundso many headlines that really have saved lives, and this is another one. So someone very close to me, whom I cannot name, perfectly healthy 84-year-old woman, perfectly healthy before she got three, injections, Moderna.Was taken to the hospital over the past weekend because of tightness in her chest and they diagnosed hypertension, which literally this is a woman who has eaten right her entire life, exercised her entire life.She's the right weight for her height. She's just everything right. You know, hypertension in our family, nothing, right? And suddenly this manifests.So of course her doctors are like, as they always are, with all of these side effects with everyone I know who's being injured by the vaccines, the doctors like, we have no idea.And then it's literally right there in the Pfizer documents, like whatever it is these people aresuffering from that they didn't suffer from before.You know, we do a search with this tool. One of our volunteers created called abstractor and there it is. So I asked Amy Kelly to search for hypertension or high blood pressure in Pfizer documents.And she found 242 different iterations. And then she searched the VAERS database and what the results she got were 108,000 rows of data.So, and the system said, we can't even print this out for you, you have to resubmit under 10,000 rows each.So it was like a signal so massive, it broke the pipeline essentially. And for your audience in the UK, excuse me, and even in the US and around the world, The VAERS database is supposed to be the thing that... of harm that the CDC, our Center for Disease Control, our big kind of medical safety agency is supposed to be monitoring.Like that's Rochelle Walensky's job. That's literally her main job.And here is the signal so massive that it kind of overwhelmed her own system.And yet it was Amy Kelly in a guest bedroom in Denver, Colorado, who found it, and me in a guest bedroom in Salem, Massachusetts, who's announcing it to the world, instead of the multi-billion dollar CDC, funded with our tax dollars.And then Dr. Ely did a recheck. He verified her results.And he also, he's a VAERS CDC expert because of his own work with senators, Linthicum andSenator Thatcher in Oregon, with a grand jury investigation demand of the CDC,for data mishandling.And he found tens of thousands of results of high blood pressure in the VAERS database and 1500 people died, 1500 people died.And again, the variations on high blood pressure are so massive and we now have Vigilant Fox who's joined us, which I'm proud to say.He's a wonderful kind of commentator who boils down stories and creates videos.And he's a former nurse.And he explained, I'm like, why is hypertension a big deal? Why do we care about it? It doesn't sound that serious, right? And he explained, you know, that it can be very dangerous.He explained it in his piece about what we found. And Dr. Ely elaborated on why hypertension is so serious.You can die of it. People are dying of it. So, you know, we have to add these 1500 people minimum because the VAERS under reports by one, I'm sorry, the VAERS is estimated to report only one to 10% of the true number of adverse events. So we've got,you know, scores, what would it be if you've got 1500, we could have 15,000 people dead of hypertension who would not have been dead of hypertension prior to receivingthe mRNA vaccines. And also the last thing I'll say about this is that all of these horrible pieces are starting to fit together, Peter, medically. I've talked about lipid nanoparticles.They're an industrial fat. Well, they're in your blood now, you know, if you've been vaccinated. So there are all these clotting effects, these lung clots, blood clots, the Pfizer documents are full of clots.
And nurses have even described the difference between vaccinated being very viscous,and unvaccinated blood being a different color and not not so thick.These industrial fats exist, they're like a like the opposite of an emulsifier. They exist to thicken things. Right. and as I reported earlier and I'm surprised no one's really paying attention to this, but it's more of a kind of industrial product discussion than a medical product discussion, which may be why the doctors are not wading into it. But lipid nanoparticles, they solidify at room temperature. They get thicker as you warm them. And I warned everyone, remember all that weird chilling, that it has to be so cold, it has to be so cold. And I did a piece on the variability. I think we talked about this of instructionsthat how cold to keep the vaccines. Well, what good does it do to keep this material super freezing chilled in a freezer if you inject it into a human body, which is 98.6 degreesFahrenheit, you know, some Celsius, you know, it's going to change. And so if you thinkabout what hypertension does to the heart, right, it makes the heart work harder, it pushes the blood against the arteries, you know, more than it should be pushed against the arteries.That's an effect you would get if your blood is sticky, as Dr. Ely said. And he actually has a different mechanism for what causes the sticky blood and explained that in more detail. But,you know, there could be multiple factors, you know, ruining people's blood, basically, in circulation. And I'm just heartsick about this. And I hope, I hope millions ofpeople watch this interview, because right now, pretty much nobody knows outside of you, me, and and the War Room posse and whoever's reading our sub stacks about this, that this is happening. That's a side effect.
(HoO)
Well, one of the things that really has worried me is the whole issue of blood transfusion. And I know there has been one case in New Zealand with parents losing access to their child because they wanted the child to have a transfusion with unvaccinated blood. And I know, I think on Daily clout, there's an interview there with an organization that looks at this. And that's a whole other area because many of us no longer trust our health system. And therefore what happens if you're in need of blood? And that's a huge step because very few of us have any idea of how to even set up a system whereby that's available. Because you obviously don't want to receive blood if it is infected with something that can cause damage to your body.
(NW)Absolutely. And this is, it's such a heart-breaking, unbelievable story, but it's also so predictable. I mean, I say unbelievable and predictable at the same time. Those are the times we're living in.Months and months ago, I warned on War Room that the last step of this train we were on would be that people's children would be removed from them. That is the ultimate leverage. And that's what that we're seeing in formerly free, formerly enlightened New Zealand and subsequently around the world.Like if we don't fight this fight in every country, that's gonna be everywhere.The whole world is gonna be like China and now like New Zealand and like Australia in horrible ways and on and on.And I'm hearing terrible things about Britain about restricting assembly. I need to find out more about that or restricting travel.But back to your question about blood, it is true that I don't believe anything these peoplesay anymore either.I mean, my loved one said with relief that this bracelet she'd been assigned to wear, someone had told her returns unreliably high numbers.different kinds of medical bracelet. And my first thought was, well, of course it does, because that's how you guarantee the endless consumption of the hypertension medications,which are made by guess who, Pfizer.So yeah, I don't trust any of them. The blood supply is a bad question, but predictably, unvaccinated semen, unvaccinated eggs. Unvaccinated surrogate moms and unvaccinated blood are gonna be the black market or the gold of the near future if they aren't already.And I do think we have to create an alternative medical system as well as an alternative scientific system, alternative economic system.But I know that some doctors have started to do this. I know that Dr. Alexander and Dr. McCullough and other dissident doctors have united in something I think is called the Wellness Project.And I just would refer people to them and to FLCCC and to Dr. Ely because I don't know that they have access to unvaccinated blood, but I think we're gonna start to have like networks of donors, informally, people saying like, I'll step in for your baby, I'm type O or I'm unvaccinated.I mean, it's going to be like an underground railroad, medically.
(HoO)Well, I don't know whether it will be that people just have a small freezer at home and they stick their blood in. It's a strange way. Again, we have to look for solutions to the madness that we face and the solutions can be very different from what's been done before.But then over in, it seems to be that there is actually more voices, certainly in the political realm.Here we've had Andrew Bridgen MP who stood up and called for mRNA vaccines to be immediately suspended certainly with children. And I know I watched the whole day of meetings with Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Rand Paul has been very vocal as has Ron De Santos.
Are you seeing a change because you're putting the information out, and others are putting the information out. It is all there to read and to make an informed decision that this is not good. We must immediately suspend until further notice. Are we seeing a change with some of our politicians actually wakening up to it? (NW)I mean, yes, yes and no. I think it's huge that you had a parliamentarian call for this. And culturally, when a taboo is broken, that has a big impact, even if you don't get immediate colleagues rushing to stand next to him or immediate positive press coverage.Things are changing, not fast enough, not comprehensively enough.
I'm a lifelong Democrat, I'm now an independent, but the change in the makeup of the House in the United States starting in January, that Republicans will be in charge.That is having a ripple effect around the world or certainly around the Westbecause different people will be able to hold investigations, have subpoena power.And so if there have been alliances, for instance, between Britain and the US, which there often are around these issues, those will be disclosed. And I guess I just don't get thathappy about it, but I'm also very annoyed because what you're gonna start to see is rats jumping ship, or people, and I'm seeing this with the, you know, literati and the intelligentsia.Oh, I never believed that. I was always there with you, you know, I, you know, with that things were crazy, right?I mean, you know, and so people are trying to get ahead of indictments and they're trying to lay down paper trails in the event of investigation.And in some cases, and I think we'll see this with people Rochelle Walensky, Dr. Walensky, Dr. Fauci, and my husband Brian O'Shea, an investigator many years in the intelligence community, points this out.
The first person to get to turning on their peers gets a reduced sentence or other kinds of immunity. So I think we're going to see a rush to throw others under the bus once the Republicans take power.
But it's not enough. I mean there are still ads every day, people tell me in states across my country telling people to inject their children.The CDC still lies every single day. I can't believe what I saw just this morning. The CDC is telling people on its website that teenagers and minors have a right to choose vaccination of any kind in spite of their parents' wishes. It's not true. It's a lie. But they just lie and lie andlie. Dr. Ely broke this story yesterday when I interviewed him or the day before, I beg your pardon, that is shocking. He found that the CDC has removed 32,000 cases. I may have the number slightly..... I'll say tens of thousands till I can check the number, but cases of myocarditis from the VAERS database between September and December, just removed them, which is illegal and probably has to do with, you mentioned DeSantis. Governor DeSantis and Dr. Lattapos' plans for a grand jury investigation, that's Dr. Walensky covering up evidence of a crime, right, or trying to. So yes, things are changing, but as a journalist, I guess I'm especially angry as a journalist because the Guardian isn't joining you in saying, here's investigative reporting we've done, this has to stop.They took the money. The BBC took all the money.They're not joining you in actually investigating the spike, the doubling of baby deaths.They call it a spike, to hide the number in Scotland.
I mean, so many things are not happening with the news media because of the pipeline of money and because of their own complicity.They committed crimes too, they took the money and they have blood on their hands and people died. And I don't know how that will play out,in terms of litigation, but I know that when this worm actually turns and the bodies have been duly counted, that the diabilities, and every country now is showing a signal of dramatic 13% rise in Australia above the norm for deaths, unexplained deaths, 20% I believe in Germany, and the unborn babies, the drop in babies that Igor Chudin documented, an average of 20% I believe worldwide in the, databases he's looked at.Media are going to be hauled into court for participating in fraud and reckless endangerment. And I'm a free speech absolutist, but they deserve to because it is illegal to endanger people and kill them by covering things up and forcing them basically to make choices they wouldn't make otherwise. So it's going to be a bloodbath.
(HoO)How do you think that, because one of the headlines from Senator Ron Johnson's hearings was, and I think you covered in Daily Clout, analysis shows 26% worse mortality amongst mRNA vaccinated.So the information is out there, at some point people have to be held to account. And often in the UK being held to account means actually promoted or given a better job somewhere. That's what you're held to a coin. Heads do not roll. I'm guessing at some point those in charge in the CDC, in the pharm industry need to be penalized, be punished for what's happened. Is that private prosecutions? Is that state by state? Is the whole De Santos being vocal? Is that a breakthrough in that area?
(NW)Well, De Santos is being more than vocal, he's calling for a grand jury investigation. And that's serious. And he's the first governor to do that.And I know that his popularity is off the charts. So punishment for COVID crimes is going to play very, very well in many parts of our country and probably in yours as well.Because the truth has a way of coming out.In spite of Britain being in a more opaque information bubble than the US, from what I can see, there are people like you and people like Mark Steyn and a few other truth tellers.People just aren't stupid. They look around and look at the symptoms that their loved ones experience and they put pieces together over time.So yes, DeSantis' approach is important, again, culturally, by breaking that seal, not just saying, well, because what the evildoers want to do now is, that Emily Osterpiece, we didn't know, the science was evolving, it's time for amnesty, let's make s'mores andsing kumbaya, crazy, crazy times.And that's..... there's a reason there was an Nuremberg trial after World War Two.There's a reason that the Nazi doctors were hanged, you know, in a long, a long.People in journalism who promoted Nazi policies were also punished cruelly. And that has to happen, right? If that hadn't happened, Nazism would have reared its ugly head much earlier.But how can I put it? I think that there's a risk that the move on forces will prevail unless we are very assertive and strategic and organized. And here's one reason why.Even though the Republicans are in power in the U.S., Bill and Melinda Gates are still out there pouring money into every news outlet, filling the coffers of left and right. And the same pharma money goes to your country, and the same big tech money goes, to distort your media and your social discourse. And the other thing is that I just have to be honest, wefought really hard in the United States to get some of our democracy back, like really hard grassroots, moms organizing, people doing audits, people kind of educatingthemselves through entities like BILLCAM, what does the law really say? How do I talk to my, showing up in Albany, showing up at their state houses, in Britain? I'm sorry to say this,I love Britain dearly. You're in a post-democratic situation now. I created BILLCAM partly because I did an informal poll of people around me in Oxford in a pub like five years ago and said, do you know how to lobby your member of parliament?And do you know how to, and this was when Britain was still part of the European Union, do you know how to lobby your MEP?And nobody knew. And there's no disrespect to the British. Your system has deliberately been made. One of the greatest democracies, the original democracy in the world, the process of, as you know, from having worked in parliament.The lobbying of your representative process is so opaque and mysterious that people have been completely disempowered.And the last thing I'll say, and then I will really stop, is part of why we're so eager to launch Daily Clout andBILLCAM is that part of the reason I designed it the way I did is from having looked at parliament.uk. and your legislative database.Is it literally impossible to find out what the laws are? I mean, my book was smeared, a book I wrote about 19th century British laws about sodomy was smeared and attacked based on a law that no one could find, right?A legislative database that was completely opaque. And when you try to follow parliament.gov.uk, it often sends you in a circle and it ends in a dead link or it says things like, well, these laws are in scrolls and you have to be a lawyer to access that.Like scrolls, like that is not a thing in the digital era. And so it's very disturbing that digitaltechnology is used to put forward a face of accessibility, especially in Britain, but actually used to hide and conceal legislation and legislative processes from the citizens.Sorry to be so nerdy, but I care a lot about this.
(HoO)No, our laws are opaque and also can be read in so many different ways and that's the problem. And then the courts spend their time trying to make sense of bad legislation, which keeps getting different amendments put on it. But I want to finish off just by, you said about Bill and Melinda Gates are still around, talked about the money going into institutions and.One of those institutions is Yale University. And you put up a number of things, obviously you were at Yale, which I think says the third oldest university in the States, then look back, in Oxford was there 300 years before. So, but we'll not even get into that.You've spoken about this and highlighted the money going into Yale and I guess that control.Tell us about that because that shows the hold that these large institutions have on our education system.
(NW)Yeah, that was a shocker. So I was invited to speak at a rally outside of Yale against thishellish policy the university has mandated that even if students, undergraduates, healthyundergraduates have both the initial injections and booster, they have to take the bivalent booster before they can even come back to campus after winter break and resume their studies.
And, this is, I mean you can imagine how insane this is as more and more and more evidence mounts up that particularly young adults are at greater, I mean the British Medical journal just ran a piece just in time for Yale to save face if it repeals its mandate by the waybut you know whatever works you know pointing out that young adults it's unethical to have university mandates because young adults are at more risk from the injection and myocarditis and they don't you know not to mention the menstrual problems that womenare suffering then and they are from the virus itself.And so I gave a speech, you know, I am a mom and if parents don't speak up about, and I'm an alumna, you know, and if parents and alumni don't speak up to protect these undergraduates, and the faculty and staff are not mandated, meaning the administration isn't mandated.It's just the kids, it's just the students, right? Makes no sense at all, no sense at all.And so I thought, well, what, you know, usually there's money driving insane policies. And again, my, got to credit, Brian O'Shea. The world's best investigator, he quickly fell on the money trail by looking at a database of government funding called TAGGS and as well as Yale's own internal records.And Yale makes 200 million more every year year from HHS grants, then from then from tuition. So that's $600 million a year from HHS, about 400 plus fromtuition. And so they need HHS more than they need their students. So they're basically at in my argument, trafficking their students. Yale has received $6 billion from HHS since 1998, 1.7 billion since COVID began.And I broke out individual grants and there's so much nonsensical bribery, like, you know, over a million dollars to go to Karachi to look at burial grounds to assess the impact of COVID, to look at burial grounds, you don't know how they died, right?They're dead, they're buried. You know, not looking at medical records, not looking at, you know, like, look, physically look at burial grounds or 3.4 million for student emergency COVID care.And it takes you to a dead link. What did they use that for? forced injections? distance learning? who knows?But the point is they're literally trafficking the kids. And I looked at the Connecticut and federal law against human trafficking, and it literally applies to what Yale is doing because you don't have to be sexually trafficked or transported to be trafficked.You have to be forced or coerced to provide labour or services that you have a legal right to refuse. And that's literally what's happening to the bodies of students at Yale.And for sure, as I said in my speech, going to be young men whose hearts are damaged, who could drop dead, young women who will be permanently injured menstrually with, I mean, in Pfizer documents, the horrors around menstruation.Either 20 different names in Pfizer documents for horrible things that happen to your bodymenstrually, like menstruating always, right? Or two periods, like, can you imagine being afemale student menstruating every single day of your life, or two periods a month, or horrible haemorrhages, agonizing cramps. So in addition to trafficking, in my view, it's also a violation of Title IX because they're certainly going to be inflicting on some of those undergraduate women infertility and agonizing disability. So that was what I had to say there. And I hope and believe they're hearing from alumni and parents but sadly from what I heard from at least one parent Yale is tasking this horrible woman named Stephanie Spengler, Dr. Spengler, with managing the calls from distraught parents.Stephanie Spengler was the woman tasked with managing my trying to file a grievance against an active sexual predator on campus.She's the managing of injustices and she literally is sending parents in circles. not saving the kids yet. The kids are still at risk. And I don't know the situation in the UK. I mean, are they mandating Oxford and Cambridge students?
(HoO)I think it depends on someone. I talked to a friend of mine and sadly they were going to University for Medicine and sadly they made the choice to get injected to be able to go. It seems to be that there are quite a number of universities. It's not across the board and of course they make their own decisions each time. And after someone's beenaccepted, everything's ready and then suddenly they say, oh, of course you're vaccinated.You know, at some point, the closer you get to actually attending it, it's too late. You can't just go and change your mind and go elsewhere.So yeah, that's exactly,
(NW)
I'm sorry to jump in there, Peter, but this is super painful what you'redescribing, this young woman Phoebe Liu is a University of Connecticut student, she's like 19 or 20, she said that they dangle just what you said, they're on campus, they've chosen their classes, they paid their money and that the university dangles their future like a lure on a string and withholds it, for these constantly escalating physical requirements. And as I put it in my speech, it's not just the harm to these young people's bodies. What it's doing tothem psychologically is going to scar them for life. And they're being groomed to accept a terrorizing reality in which authorities can do anything at any time to you.
(HoO)And again, in the UK, you don't get to choose. So you turn up and you get injected into whatever they have that day. So I've talked to doctors who have gone for the jabs and they have no idea what they're going to get. They just, well, whatever they put in me and that level of absolute belief and confidence in your government is frightening. But that's where we are.
(NW)They don't know what brand or what dose? (HoO)When they arrive, if they ask, they can be told, but whenever you make an appointment.You can't say, I would prefer to have the Johnson & Johnson because not an mRNA as opposed to Pfizer.You don't get to choose that. You turn up and you get whatever they give you on the day. No choice.
(NW)I just want to tell people that the Pfizer documents show that Moderna is three times more lethal than Pfizer and of course Pfizer is more lethal than J&J.
(HoO)Wow. On that happy note, we will finish off. Thank you Dr. Naomi Wolf for joining us. It's absolutelywonderful to have you on and thank you for coming on, sharing what Daily Clout have been doing over the last year and what you've been doing. So thank you so much for,your time.
(NW)Thank you, Peter. And I should end by saying, you know, it has been a year of great progress when all of us have been fighting together. So let's hope that 2023 will be sane and healthyand back to a post-enlightenment discourse in liberty for all. And thank you so much for your support for our work as well.
(HoO)No, not at all. And just to our viewers and listeners, if you haven't already got Bodies of Evidence, it is a wonderful Christmas present to give to someone to help open their eyes a little bit. So I'd encourage you to get a copy, if you can't get a hard copy of this set it's available certainly on ebook and audiobook.



Monday Dec 19, 2022
Richard Hirschman - DIED SUDDENLY: An Embalmers Story
Monday Dec 19, 2022
Monday Dec 19, 2022
Died Suddenly is a phrase we now see far too often as people passing away of "unknown" seems to be the unsettling new normal. Richard Hirschman is an embalmer from Alabama, who became a whistle-blower after seeing more and more blood clots in his work and these are now evident in approximately 60% of the bodies he embalms. Richard is one of the key people in the film 'Died Suddenly' that was released in November and he joins us to discuss that roller coaster ride and why the media and authorities want to discredit him instead of understanding if there is a link between the jab and blood clots.Richard Hirschman lives in south-eastern Alabama and has practiced there as a trade embalmer for the past 20-plus years.Watch the documentary 'Died Suddenly' at https://diedsuddenly.info/Interview recorded 16.12.22
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TRANSCRIPT OF EPISODE
(Hearts of Oak)
And hello, Hearts of Oak. Thank you once again for joining us on another interview, a pre-record coming toyou a few days before. And it is an absolute delight to have Richard Hirschman join us today. Richard, thankyou for your time.(Richard Hirschman)Yes, sir. No problem. Thanks to have me on your program and share the information I've been seeing withthe public.(HoO)Well, it's great to have you. And Richard is a funeral director, embalmer with decades of experience and itwas someone who I've got to know, John O'Looney, who put us in,touch and I've visited John O'Looney, we've had him on before a number of times and what he is talkingabout, you're also talking about, and it's interesting to talk to people in different parts of the world that areseeing the same issues and it reinforces. But before I jump into that, can I ask you just to take a moment andintroduce yourself to your audience,and then we'll get into the topic at hand.(RH)Sure, my name is Richard. I've been in the business now for probably a little over 21 years.I know that I was in the funeral home as an apprentice way back in the early days when 9-11 happened.So that's how I pretty much remember, I know exactly when in 2001 I started, I can't exactly remember thedate, but I know I was in the funeral home during 9/11.And I finished mortuary school in 2004, became fully licensed as a funeral director and embalmer. So I'vebeen doing this for a long time.And in the earlier days, I had both funeral directing, sitting with families, making funeral arrangements, anddoing the embalming.But then as the years went along, I became an embalmer specifically where I was working at a firm wherethat's all I did.And it was around 2015 where I decided I was going to go ahead and be a, what we call a trade embalmer.Meaning I'm not working for a funeral home. I'm not an actual employee. I'm kind of like a plumber, youknow, you call the plumber when you need him.And funeral homes have sometimes a caseload,really busy and they need an extra hand. So instead of hiring somebody, they just pay me a contracting fee tocome in and do the embalming job. So I've been doing that since 2015.And I have embalmed thousands of bodies in my probably 21, little over 21 years of experience.(HoO)Wow. I've never spoken to funeral director and embalmer before I sat with John O'Looney, so It'sinteresting who you get to speak to in these curious times that we are in.But I think the first time I had watched you was you did a video with you, John O'Looney and BrentonFaithfull from New Zealand and the three of you were sharing common concerns, what you were seeing.And could I maybe ask you what point was it that you begun to see something that didn't seem right and thenwhat did you do with that information?(RH)Okay. So in the early, as this pandemic was moving along, we started seeing an increase in what wewould call the COVID case in the second half of 2020. [1:28]And we did notice an increase in some of the traditional blood clotting, and they were talking about how that,the coronavirus can cause clotting.And I recognized that close to the end of 2020. When 2021 happened in January of 2021.The death rate just skyrocketed, I mean, it became extremely busy.One of the busiest months that I'd ever had ever. that particular month, I embalmed 101 bodies in that onemonth alone. It was very, very tiring.It was very frustrating. And the clotting issue was just getting out of hand. February, it slowed down a littlebit.It's been up and down. That's our business. The clot issues kept getting worse and worse.And I estimate around May of 2021, it probably was a little earlier than that, but it was no later than June of2021 where I was having these fibrous looking clots that were that I'm finding in veins which is typicallywhere we would find them but I was starting to see them in arteries as well.And as the summer went along it just kind of kept getting worse, well around September of 2021, I had beenjust inundated with these strange clots and there was a particularcase that was super long, it was very unusual and so I took a picture of it and I started,taking pictures of some of these strange clots starting in late September of 2021.What did I do with this information?And a little bit, it was actually prior to that as well.I was talking with peers, other people in my field, other funeral directors that were licensed embalmers, thathave business asking them, have you guys ever seen this type of clotting?This is not a typical blood clot, which would look like grape jelly if you were to be, you be making asandwich and you spill some grape jelly on your counter. Yes, it's kind of solid, it falls apart, it's not easy tohold onto. It's very slippery, it'sslick, the worst case ones might look like strawberry jam, might have a little bit of granulation to it, a typicalblood clot, but these were not.And sometimes I would have some of these people actually step into the embalming room and come to thetable where I'm working. I said,'look at this', this is strange, and some of these people I was talking to had 30, 40 even 50 years ofexperience.Then I can't remember exactly when I saw John O'Looney, he did some kind of a Facebook live chat,something like that, where he was describing,he wasn't describing the plots, but what he was describing was the same thing I was seeing with the increasein death rates starting in January of 2021,which he was saying was almost exactly when the COVID shots started coming out and it started makingsense,and he was talking about how in the embalming room, his embalmer and himself, they're seeing a hugeincrease in blood clotting.And I was like, this is exactly what I'm seeing over here in the United States.And so I continued taking pictures and images. I didn't know exactly how to come out publicly about it. Ibrought images when I only had three to my personal doctor, who was trying to get me to get the COVIDvaccine, told me it was 95% effective,how I would never get covid blah blah blah. Well, I had already had covid prior to the vaccine coming out soI didn't worry about it, and you know, I had chickenpox when I was a kid, so I don't go get chickenpoxvaccine either,so I thought it was kind of pointless to have.Anyway, he was so shocked when he saw the picture when I only had three on my phone. I mean, this is howearly it was. It was around in October of 2021 that he actually brought in another doctor to look at it.He couldn't explain what it was. He just found it, really fascinating.So I continued taking some images and I ended up getting in contact with a doctor who was at a funeralhome who met a funeral director and they got on the topic of these issues that are happening and how by thenpeople were suspecting there was an issue and a link between COVID vaccine and the strange rise in deathrates and unusual things that were happening, which I too was becoming suspect, because a lot of times thepeople were coming into my care died suddenly that were healthy,they were fine.The next thing you know, they fall over dead.They have a stroke. They have a heart attack. They have these, you know, whatever issues. And when I'membalming and I'm seeing this strange clotting, I'm like, it's no wonder they had a heart attack.It's no wonder they had a stroke, because it wouldn't take much of this at all to create one of those conditions.So by that, getting in contact with that individual, that individual then put me in contact with Dr. Jane Ruby,who is on Stu Peters Network often, and she did an interview with me in about January 26th.or 27th of 2022, which was this year, almost a year ago.And that's kind of what kicked off the awareness of what's going on.John O'Looney deserves all the credit for being the first mortician to come forward with his concerns, andbecause he sits with families,and he's talking to them, he gets the information on vaccine status.I'm not the one sitting with the family asking. All I'm seeing is there's a change in people's blood. Somethingis causing this and we need to get to the bottom of it,so that's where we are today.John O'Looney shined the flash-light on the issue, and his concern about the vaccine.And my concern is something is happening to people's blood, it's different, it's not the same. You can almosttell somethingis wrong with the way the blood is and I think that that may be the underlying issues, all of all of thesesudden deaths,all of these health issues that are happening.(HoO)Is there, I mean, most industries have a system where you can raise concerns, either anonymously orpublicly. I have no idea about the embalming world, but is there a similar thing where you can post issues orthings that you're seeing, or does that not exist? Was there a way for you to,put it internally as so?(RH)Some of the people that I have talked to when I was going through this, these steps of gathering the evidenceof whati'm seeing, some of these people are actual coroners, okay, so did I raise a concern with the corner whichwould in in my opinion, probably be one of the first steps.But the problem is, we don't, so imagine if every embalmer were out there and he saw something strange,were to sit there and call the police.It doesn't work that way.So we do have obligation is as an embalmer, and I've only had to do this twice in my 21 years,where I saw something that was suspicious, a mark on the body that looks like,hey, that kind of looks like foul play.A coroner has to know that this looks like foul play. If I were to embalm a body,it came in and I saw a knife in somebody's back, I would probably be required ethically to report that to thecoroner.Then they would have to sit there and investigate.But if you go back and you look at what they did, and I'm talking what the medical system did to any doctor,any nurse that rose their hands and said something is wrong, and any concern against the vaccine, whathappened to them?They were almost always targeted as misinformation and all these things.And so as I'm sitting here having all this, if they won't listen to doctors like Ryan Cole, Peter McCullough,Robert Malone, any of these experts.If they won't listen to them, what makes do you think they would listen to a little simple guy, simpleembalmer, who's not a doctor, he's not a scientist, he's just a mortician in Southeast Alabama.If they won't pay attention to the experts, what makes you think they would pay attention to me?I don't think it would happen.(HoO)The film has just come out, Died Suddenly.And so it's at diedsuddenly.info. It's one of those that I thought I'll watch a couple of minutes and get an idea,but I couldn't really put it down, I need to watch it all. What you watch the first two, three minutes, it's wow.And it of course was stuff I'd heard from John before and taking it much wider.You're in the film, John's in the film, others are in it.Tell us about that. What has kind of been the response to that? I guess, put you on a public level, which youweren't previously. So what has that been like for you and how have you seen that develop, that informationgoing out,which has only been out, what, just over a month or so now?(MH)It was November 21st, so it hasn't even been a month. So yeah, that is a wild roller coaster ride I am going totell you andthe response has been amazing. And it's at first, I mean, they were fast, the PolitiFact was really quick, evenback in January, trying to sit there and say, there's scientific evidence that my findings is most, and what I'msaying is mostly false.And so there were some hit pieces right away, right away. And it was really frustrating and it made mequite angry.But then I was talking with a friend of mine, Jennifer, who really put the perspective for me.And instead of being angry about it, I welcomed every bit of it. And the reason is there are so many peoplethat would not have even heard of the documentary had it not been for these fact checkers to try to make anddebunk what we are trying to say.So it brings it out into the open. And so for the average person, the typical person in my opinion, I think mostof people, we just wanna know the truth.And so by them bashing this, brought it to more people's attention.And the only way for them to realize it for them to watch it and look at it for themselves, to watch what it isthat we are trying to jump.The way the documentary was done, I was just a part of it. I was in it, yes, but I did not produce it. I didn'tmake it. I did it. I didn't do anything with it than just provide the evidence of what I see. So it was beautiful.And most of the commenters and the debunkers are trying to sit there and say, oh, this is just a conspiracytheory. They start off the program with all these conspiracies and, you know, and I thought that,was, I mean, now I'm like, it's a great idea. Because what I think they were trying to do was say, hey, there'sall these conspiracies, all these different big foot aliens, what I rememberall of them that was in there. And I think what they were trying to say is, they will try to tell you this is justanother conspiracy theory. But then, unlike some of the other documentaries thatI've seen, this wasn't about just me. They had other morticians from around the world.I'm sorry, I did not know John O'Looney and have contact with him prior to me coming out. I didn't knowknow, Brenton Faithfull in New Zealand, prior to that meeting on that podcast with the three of us together, Ididn't know some of these other morticians in other parts of this country over here. I didn't know the otherone, there wasanother one up in Canada. So it's not just me, it's not just my findings, which brings more credibility. Andthen they bring in experts, people like Ryan Cole and Teresa Long and James Thorpe, Dr. Thorpe.And you're getting data from all these different angles and all they wanna do is try to throw this entire filmunder the bus because of a couple of maybe strange things that might be debunked as, oh well, this happenedtechnically prior to this or that.But anybody who does a little bit of research into died suddenly, you can just look at the newspaper. I meanjust look, people want to know how accurate stuff, how bad it is. I recommend for folks to start an attentionto your local obituary.And a lot of obituaries have become extremely expensive in papers. So they'd no longer put them in thenewspaper, but you can find them if you go to the funeral home website. They will usually be listed there.And you will find there are more and more people dying that are younger and younger. So I think thedocumentary was amazing. It was really good.And there are many people that would have never heard it had it been done in a way that sounded like ahumdrum,long drug out lecture that you might get at Harvard University, people would turn it off.It had to be done in an entertaining way in order to keep people's attention.And they can say what they want about it, But the fact is morticians are seeing what we're seeing.And the doctors are seeing what they're seeing and put the pieces together people wake up.This is a dangerous situation.And I can't prove 100% that it's the vaccine causing this or is it COVID?The reason why I believe it's the vaccine it's all about the timing on how everything is played out And howthere are people that I have embalmed that supposedly never had COVID, but had the vaccine have thesestrange, unusual clotting.And I think the experts are starting to prove now it is the spike protein that causes the clotting disorder. Andthat's why you can see it in COVID and long COVID because COVID has the spike.It is loaded with spike and the mRNA supposedly makes your body create even more of that toxic spikeprotein which causes a clotting disorder.So it's been great, it's been really good but what's really sad, Peter, this is what's sad. I have been contactedby a lot of people, many of which are vaccine injured and they're looking for help. There are places that are [17:12]trying to help people.And the problem is, is their job, their employers made them get the vaccine to keep their job. Then they gotsick. Well, what happens to a sick person who can't work anymore? What happens tothem eventually? They get let go. They then lose their income. They lose their insurance.They go through what little bit of savings they have left and they're desperate and it's heart-breaking. It is soheart-breaking to hear the stories from the people who are reaching out and they want to help but I'm not adoctor and,and I can say that it seems like the majority of the help people are getting that are starting to have somesuccess is not usually from the whole medical system. It's coming from people that have alternative, more ona holistic or natural ways of healing people from frequencies to light therapies to hyperbaric oxygenchambers. Those are what seems to be helping people more than just going to the pharmaceutical companyand taking another pill.(HoO)You mentioned about the people contacting you, the people who have been affected and you've spoken up,so you've become a magnet for those people to connect with, and to share, because their concerns are notaccepted in many places and I'm assuming first of all the mainstream media have not been beating downyour door.And then the other side is even people speaking. I think I've watched obviously Senator Ron Johnson speak,here in the UK. We've had one single MP who spoke in the House of Commons afew days ago, Andrew Bridgen, and he's been criticized and vilified and he's raised the issue of vaccineinjuries. It's something that you're not allowed to utter. You're not supposed to say.And those politicians that speak criticism and the mainstream media are silent, what are your thoughts onthat?And when you look around and you'd expect the media to highlight a story where something has gone wrongand yet it's just simply silence.I'm guessing that's been the response you've got as well.(RH)Absolutely. I was asked by a doctor recently, I mean, within this week.How many health agencies or government agencies have contacted you to look into this? And theanswer is absolutely zero. Nobody does.I've had a fact check call me and suggest that I was receiving some kind of, Well, actually asked me, was Ireceiving compensation for doing or being a part of the documentary?And of course I laughed. I was like, no, I don't have a website. I don't have a platform.I'm not selling a book.I'm not selling anybody's supplements.I have absolutely zero financial interest in what I'm trying to do here.And that's just bring awareness and not only myself, but everybody that I've talked to or that I know thatmight've been a part of that documentary, not one person is compensated.It's not about compensation, it's about bringing awareness. And so I was a bit offended and I told this factchecker, I said, so, you know, accusing me of being paid, no, no, no, I'm not getting paid. Let me tell youwho's getting paid.You're getting paid.You're getting paid to go out there and try to discredit and to try to know that this is all make believe.And so you're being paid. I'm not being paid. You're the one being paid.If we are right and it is the vaccine causing the harms, then let the blood of the dead and the injured be onyour hands, not mine.I'm just trying to bring awareness. If we find out that this is because a bad bag of Doritos causes weirdclotting, well, then we need to get the Doritos off the market.So it's like fine. But it's like Ryan Cole says, you cannot find what you're not looking for. And so some of thecomment, which you're asking, as these people, you're right, politicians,doctors that do speak out, they're censored, the mainstream media doesn't wanna do that, they get shut down.This is why so many people, I don't wanna look at this as being done on purpose.But because they continue to deny, deny, deny, Look, there was a group died suddenly on Facebook that had300 and some thousand people had joined that platform and Facebook silenced the voices of 300,000 peopleas if they're never there.It reminds me of with the trains in Germany carrying off the people to the concentration camps and what dopeople do? Plug their ears. I don't want to hear this.Those That are being slaughtered and taken away. It makes it feel as though they are doing this on purpose, [25:58]which feeds more and more into the idea that this is about some kind of a depopulation issue or some kind ofa control issue or a one world government issue, which, you know,it makes people beg to question, and you're not allowed to question, which makes it even more damning onthem.Because it's getting hard not to believe this is being done on purpose. They've taken drugs off the market forjust a few people getting hurt. They took peanut butter out of schools because a couple of kids had an allergicreaction.And yet we got thousands and thousands and thousands and probably millions of adverse reactions anddeaths over this and yet they continue to push the narrative. It's safe and effective. A person sent me a copyof a death certificate from March of last year, of 2021 and it's said it'sbecause of the vaccine and they say, 'but nobody's died from the vaccine' How can you say that?(HoO)Wow. I want to come back to you on 'this seems to be on purpose'. Let's finish on that.One of your videos, I think it was with Steve Kirsch that you talked about over 60% of the bodies that youwere looking at had these blood clots, these long stringy elastic things that were blocking up their bloodsystem.And then also the blood being like with sand or coffee or something is there, something is wrong with it, it'snot as it should be. Is it that the majority of bodies, is that still the case? The majority of bodies that you'relooking at have these clots through and also the blood issue?(RH)Yes, actually recently I was thinking that there was a little bit of a decline on it. And do you mind if I showyou a sample of one that I took the other day?There it is. Hopefully you can see that. Okay.This right here, I had six cases within a 24-hour period the other day. And three of them had that. So, youknow, just when I thought it was starting to go down,the next thing you know, it starts going right back up. So it's still the majority of the clotting issues in thepast, prior to all of this may have been at the top end, maybe one, maybe two out of 10 bodies might haveclots.Well, all six that I did that 24-hour period had clots. And three of them had those big, large white ones.Now, I don't try to find them. They come around. I'd rather not see any of them.But it's those big white fibrous ones which are the most abnormal, but it's not always the big white fibrousones.Like in the documentary, it shows what looks like grains of sand that are coming out. Or it looks like theblood is dirty. It's stringy. It's abnormal.It's not a standard, typical jelly-like clot that simply is just a congealed bunch of blood. You can make ablood clot with your own blood.You got to do is take it out, don't put it in anything, let it sit there for a little bit and it's gonna kind of turninto a solid but it's gonna be red.As it settles, you might get a few things.I've got, sitting here on my desk, So if people wanna sit there and say, oh well, that can happen, right? It'scommon for something like this weird abnormal clot thing to happen.Okay. And I said this in the beginning. Yeah, let's just say there's some kind of a rare disease that can causethis.If that's the case, then how come I've collected almost 100 of these samples since March of, since the middleof March this year alone.I had this other thing, another analogy is this. You know what a, oh shoot, what is it the person that's ahermaphrodite, right? A person born with both sexes. You've heard that, right? Okay. In 21years that I've been doing this, you know how many hermaphrodites I've embalmed? Zero that I know of.I don't think I've ever embalmed a hermaphrodite, but do they exist? Well, yeah, I mean, we've heard it.It's scientifically possible. I get it. So if this white fibrous stuff is a rare disease, then that would explain whyI didn't see it before. So for me to come out right away and say, hey, something's really wrong and then findout,oh, yeah, well, there's a strange.... it's an unusual clotting disorder that can happen and it's a cascade of this,blah, blah, blah.All this medical stuff, then that would explain it away.What doesn't explain it away is how come I went from having maybe 15% of the bodies might haveclotting, to 85% of the bodies being clotted and only less than 15% not clotted. Something has happened, [30:59]something has switched.And now it seems like it's around 50%, sometimes more have this abnormal whitish fibrous structuresgrowing in their blood.And people wanna say, these are post-mortem clots, I'm sorry. There was a great video that came out fromPeak of Prosperity with Chris Martinson, who kind of goes through and debunks the debunkers,saying that it seems to be mathematically impossible for this kind of white structural clotting to happen, evenif it's solely fibrin, which is whitish,but usually it's microscopic.You're not gonna see it with the naked eye.It would take a huge amount of that fibrin in your blood in order to create structures as large as this post-mortem. So these must be pre-mortem and at least we need to look into it and it needs to be,studied but because nobody seems to be wanting to look at it just like I saw that video of the gentleman inparliament the other day, talking about the vaccine injuries. It's just like they try to discredit him,they're going to try to discredit everybody that is trying to bring awareness, which again brings it back downto why do you refuse to look at the evidence?Unless you don't want people to see the evidence. It sounds to me like if I was to rob a bank, then maybe Iwould want the cameras to be turned offor to debunk anything that might indicate that I might be the culprit. That means maybe they're doingsomething on purpose.(HoO)We'll finish off on that. which would be a whole program myself, but we'll just do 10 minutes on it. I'vecertainly, at the beginning I accepted, I wore a mask for the first couple of weeks. It all made sense.And then things started not making sense. And certainly with the mRNA, my response, well, after five years,when I see the data, I may consider something, but why would I be in anyrush to get something which shouldn't really affect me? Now I'm down the point where actually was thereanything? We were told the stuff we were told of people falling inthe streets from China, all of that. So I'm deep enough down not accepting what my government tell me.Become an anti-vaxxer. I wasn't before. Thank you government for now making me ananti-vaxxer. I don't want anything that you're going to push on me from any multi-billion corporation thatwants to make money and profit from me. And then you've got the whole control that you can control peoplethrough fear and the government have done a marvellous job on that,on getting people to do exactly what they tell them. Then you've got another step further, which is thedepopulation. I've watched the stuff from WEF closely with the build back better.I'm still on the edge of that rabbit hole. And I know the film, I know that's a kind of string throughout thefilm, a thread throughout it.Tell me about that because things do seem to be pointing towards that but it's not something I'm ready tofully accept yet.(RH)Right. And I think the film kind of puts that out there because they want you to think.You know, most of your education system doesn't want you to think. They want you to fill in the blank theway they told you to fill in the blank. This film is putting things out,there in order to make you think and look and see for yourself. They're actually teaching people to open youreyes and think for yourself. And you know some of these people that are pushing this stuff are useful idiots.A screw does not know what it's doing.It might be a screw that's holding together a piece of equipment that's gonna determine whether you have acertain medical condition.And by doing that, it may save your life. A very important screw, right?But the screw may also be a screw that is a part of a pipe bomb. that's there to kill and maim hundreds ofpeople. The screw doesn't know what he is doing.It's just holding things together.It's doing what it's told to do. So there are many people I believe that are in this system.They're just doing their job. They're just doing what they're paid to do. Just like that fact checker, she's beingpaid to try to discredit what we're saying and what we're doing.However, it's those that are up on the very, very top that are manipulating and pulling the strings.Government dictating to social media sites, what you can or what you cannot say, what you need to flag,what you don't need to flag, the same government organizations are fundingand being a part of the big pharmaceutical companies that are working on doing this, they're doing that.You have so much going on that it's creating confusion and all kinds of misinformation, disinformation.Some people don't realize what they're doing. They just don't.They're not necessarily evil. They're just doing their job and why? Because they have a family to support.They have children, they've got a mortgage, they've got car payment, they've got all these things in life thatthey have to do and they're just doing their job.They don't wanna hear the possibility that they may be a part of the pipe bomb.They think they're a part of the machine that's gonna save your life.And they don't realize by shutting out and destroying and taking away the voices of those that are injured,that are trying to bring concern, they have no idea by doing that theyare a part of a very big program that might be a part of this idea that there's this agenda to depopulate theworld.And because this is a world-wide issue, Peter, it seems to be more and more difficult to disprove that theory.It's like everything they've told us is a lie. And I don't want to necessarily go down into the 9-11 conspiracytheories.However, you had three buildings in New York that imploded on itself. Show me anywhere in history on anyvideo that was not done on purpose.It imploded on itself. Three of them exactly in the same day. Half of a building come down, okay I canunderstand that, but for it to come down in on itself from top to bottom, three separate buildings, and yet wewere all told that it was all a coincidence. All of this stuff makes me wonder, and I think that's why thedocumentary started off with Bigfoot's not real, Aliens aren'treal and then you got other government things trying to say oh well maybe aliens are real, UFOs aren't real,they are real. It's meant to throw us all off. People that are saying it's not real or,it is real, each one of them is being paid to do something. They're just doing their job. So I don't want tobelieve that there is this thing that Georgia Guidestones said it wanted to bring down,the population to 500 million people. It's all out there. They're saying it. They say this themselves.And then they want to say that we're conspiracy theorists or the idea of even think about it makes usconspiracy theorists. But all we're doing is we're listening to what they're saying,and we're watching what they're doing. This vaccine rollout, Peter, the last I looked, 5.4 billion people in thisworld have taken one or more of these shots.If it is a slow thing that that more and more people are going to get sick, we're in for a very, very dark future.And guess what? They're already preparing us for it.They're the ones saying, oh, it's going to be another dark winter. We're going to see all this extradeaths... How do they know that?Unless they know something that we don't know? Or is it just more fear to try to control you into doing whatthey want you to do?And the film brings that out in a way that makes people step back and go, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait aminute, maybe there's something going on here. And I think that's a brilliant move on their part with causingpeople to do a little bit of research.It doesn't take far, but the scary thing is, if you can avoid a Google search, I would avoid it because the firstthing that comes up is what they want you to see. I did this with my daughter, by the way.I said, look up my name.This is after the documentary came out and I mean, millions of people saw it really quick. And it came to anarticle that was debunking me.And I was like, isn't that interesting? Here's an article saying that, oh yeah, this is all conspiracy kind of talk.And yet there was a documentary that, you know, at that time I think there was 3 million views already.Well, you would think if Google was doing algorithms, right? And when you do a search, it's the mostpopular thing that pops up. You'd think that would show up. She, and she opened the page and she's like, butthere was only like 260 shares.I was like, I know, but yet the documentary has been viewed by millions.It's funny how that works, but you go to another search engine, like duck, duck, go or something else.And you see all kinds of stuff that is actually a lot more popular, a lot more being spread around it's we'rebeing censored.And again, it all feeds into that, the idea of the global agenda, which they themselves say, I mean, they, Imean, from Bill Gates to Klaus Schwab and all of those other yahoos out there.And I don't think they're going to win in the end of this because I don't know anybody right now doesn'tknow somebody that's injured from this vaccine.I have, or even died. I mean most people know somebody and the thing is is they're hiding a lot of the deathsbecause the majority of the people I embalm, Peter, are listed as they died a stroke, cancer, whatever youname it. But when I find this strange stuff in their blood it poses the question, If their blood was clean likenormal blood would be,Would they have died or would they have gotten this cancer or would they have had these issues that causedthem to die?That needs to be investigated(HoO)Yeah, I'm kind of expecting some of these people to have on their gravestone, there when they died, andunderneath 'But I did get my double booster and it would have been much worse if I hadn't have got it'.(MH)You're right. I would have died much harder had I not gotten a vaccine!I swear to God, I saw that somebody, this person had messaged somebody and this person is nowgetting you know some kind of a medical device to control their heart rate, and the person says 'I've hadCOVID, but I've been vaccinated and boosted in between, thank god I did otherwise, it would have beenmuch worse'. So you're thinking maybe the vaccine is making the heart conditions worse. And that's what I'mthinking, I think that's what I'm seeing is those that have underlying issues, this vaccine is making that evenworse. And why? Because there's this thing they call the blood is like, something wrong with theblood, which they're starting to say it's because of the spike protein, the inflammatory to disform and becauseit isn't doing that, it can't carry oxygen like it's supposed to.It can't remove the carbon dioxide like it's supposed to. It's clumping together. It's not supposed to clumptogether. It's supposed to be fluid and those clumps can get in your lungs,cause difficulty breathing, the blood that is disformed is not carrying oxygen,not removing all these things, creating an oxygen deficient body. And from what I understand, cancers do notlike oxygen rich bodies. They can grow much better and take over much quicker if the body is more sick andit cannot heal itself. So it seems like there's a serious blood disorder from the beginning I said something haschanged with people's blood. I can seeit. I'm not a phlebotomist. I'm not a doctor, but I've been in embalming for a long time and I know whatnormal looks like. And this what I've been seeing in the last two years now is not normal.(HoO)Well, let's finish it on that. It's a huge subject and one we have approached many times. I'd encourage peopleto go and watch the film, DiedSuddenly.info. You will find it not enjoyable,but certainly informative. And you'll go away certainly thinking, which is what I did, which is what you said,Richard. It makes people think. It certainly made me think. And people find ituseful and also you can pass it on. Make sure and send it on to people you know who I think within the firstfew minutes they will want to watch it and want to see more and be hooked,on it. Richard, thank you so much for your time today. Hugely appreciate you coming and joining us.(RH)Yes, Peter, I'd like to add one little glimmer of hope for people, if I may. Dr. Ryan Cole and other scientiststhat are out there, they've been studying these files.But their finding is they're not all the same. So if you've had one shot, if you've had... if you've had threeshots and you feel fine and everything is okay and you're not having any issues, don't live in despair. Becausethe vaccine vials are not all the same, you may have been lucky to get a vaccine that is basically a dud, ablank.But by continuing to take more of these shots, eventually, if what they're all saying is true, eventually you'regoing to get the one that's going to cause you harm.This stuff should be off the market. I am seeing so many babies, stillborn. I mean, the death rate in theyoung is starting to rise.Please, please do some research and pray about whether or not you should get this shot.Because I'm sorry, there is so much harm out there. But if you've already had it and you're OK, be thankful.(HoO)Yeah, completely. Let's say good note to finish on. It often can be dark but it's good to look at that and affectseveryone differently.



Sunday Dec 18, 2022
The Week According To . . . Mark Sutherland
Sunday Dec 18, 2022
Sunday Dec 18, 2022
Welcome to our hebdomadal show that looks back over the past seven days and this episode, the brilliantly outspoken Mark Sutherland returns to talk us through what has captured his attention, piqued his interest or made his blood boil in the news, media and tabloids.Mark is a film director, producer and a social/political commentator, known for his conservative Christian worldview and his support of Brexit, MAGA and President Trump.He cares passionately about what happens in both the UK and the US, he contributes to over twenty-five independent channels, regularly appearing on the Christian network Revelation TV's “Politics Today” program and is a widely followed commentator on American culture and politics from both sides of the Atlantic.Topics on the agenda this week include...- United Nations chief backs Scottish government's gender recognition reforms.- Shanghai schools to go online as Covid spreads in China.- Meet the man preparing Britain for the next pandemic.- Cancer crisis reaches 'watershed moment' as experts warn upward trend in deaths 'is likely to continue'.- The Republicans who voted against reinstating troops who refused the mandated clot-shot.- World Health Organization names influential scientist who helped to crush Covid lab leak theory as 'conspiracy' as its new chief scientist.- Tory MP alleges 'cover up' of Covid vaccine inflaming heart arteries in bombshell claim.- Another couple want unvaccinated blood for their seriously ill toddler.- Channel illegal migrants to be housed in holiday camps.- Poll suggests Labour will win 314-seat Commons majority at general election.To find out more about Mark go to http://www.marksutherland.org/Originally broadcast as a live video news review 17.12.22
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Check out his art https://theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com/ and follow him on GETTR https://gettr.com/user/BoschFawstinTo sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestream platforms and more go to https://heartsofoak.org/find-us/Please like, subscribe and share!Links to stories discussed this episode....Scotland gender recognitionhttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-63993415Covid spreads in Chinahttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-64010209Meet the man https://web.archive.org/web/20221214161218/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/meet-man-preparing-britain-next-pandemic-portacabin/Cancer crisis https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11538039/Cancer-crisis-reaches-watershed-moment-experts-warn.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubuttonThe Republicans https://dailycaller.com/2022/12/16/republicans-voted-against-reinstating-troops-vaccine/?utm_source=piano&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=breaking&pnespid=t_hnVjtAMr1L3fKa.2_9SM.cvgy0CMRvc.Wu2bZm9wBmuMqBPI6OptoJQt11U0qiYPtKAYdCEAWorld Health Organization https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-11532603/The-World-Health-Organization-names-Sir-Jeremy-Farrar-new-chief-scientist.htmlMP alleges 'cover up' https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1709123/tory-mp-covid-vaccine-inflaming-heart-arteries-commons-debate-updateUnvaccinated blood https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/second-anti-vax-couple-want-unvaccinated-blood-for-seriously-ill-toddler/JCLJYZDG2BHJ7OIAPOJZTZBLQ4/Channel migrantshttps://web.archive.org/web/20221215190734/https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/channel-migrants-to-be-housed-in-holiday-camps-0b3095xnmShock poll https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11533315/Shock-new-poll-suggests-Labour-win-314-seat-majority-Tories-left-just-69-MPs.html(HoO)It is great to have a guest. It's been a while. And its Mark Sutherland. Mark, thank you so much for comingback with us.(MS)My pleasure, Peter. It's an absolute privilege to join you again and to join your audience. So thank you verymuch indeed.(HoO)always good to have you on always. And I thought I was,actually thinking of doing this myself and I thought it's Christmas. I thought, well, I'll try,Mark wondering. He said, yeah, I'd love to come on. So I hope I haven't messed up your late Christmasshopping, Mark.(MS)Late Christmas shopping? What's that? What is Christmas shopping, Peter?I try and avoid it. I thought it was a demonic activity.(HoO)That's for another... Okay. So first, lots of stories, obviously, to go through. You'd sent me a website andI want to maybe open with that. And it is looking at J6. We've had Jake Lang on beforespeaking to us from his prison cell. Someone who'd been in solitary confinement for 11 months. There aremany, many individuals still being held without trial, completely illegally. They would have,probably had better treatment if they were in Guantanamo Bay. But tell us about this, J6patriot.news. Just fillus in a little bit on us before we move on to our main first story.(MS)Thank you, Peter. And thank you for bringing this up at the beginning of the show. So there is a book calledthe American Goula Chronicles. The book is chronicling the 45,prisoners, the letters, the exchange between those particular prisoners and talking about their stories and whatthey've suffered and a friend of mine, Tim Rivers, out of that the J6,patriot news has grown. The book has been created, it's now on sale, so I would be delighted if people couldlook this up and buy the book and if there's hassle in that regard to then getting.Contact with me but the book is there to raise money to create money to then help them financially inregard to their defence fund to actually help their families because 96, 97 prisoners are in prisonAnd in basically, as far as I'm concerned, we're calling them gulags, American gulags. They are, theyhave not been brought to trial. And of course, the gulag reflection goes back to Alexander Solzhenitsyn'sincredible book called our gulag archipelago, that hence the name of that.So we, the, these people have been arrested, we're fully aware of how some of that has been done with withthe disgusting behaviour of the FBI. But the book is there to raise money for their legal defence fund and toprotect their families.Because if you have then put the people in prison who are the sole breadwinner of particular families, itmeans that houses have been lost, rent can't be paid, payments on cars, et cetera.So we need this book to take off because the injustice, we could spend a whole show discussing the injusticeof this and you very kindly are showing the website where people can go to,J6patriot.com click on the top of that to book info and then and then go from there, people are fully aware ofwhat happened on jan 6. 2021 now a complete and utter set up and this is happening in the united states of America This is nothappening in Russia, it's not happening in North Korea, it is not happening in any other throat in China.This is happening in North America under a, you know, where the constitution was ratified in September1787.Say that this is the country that is pursuing life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It stands for theinjustice is unbelievable and I don't really have, we don't really have timeto discuss some of the stories of what some of these people and I'm very glad that you have had Jake Langon. I am fully aware of his particular story and the disgusting things that's gone on.Quickly to finally end on that then before we move on, seven people have committed suicide over thisand a grandmother that was arrested on the steps, was arrested because she was on thesteps of the house because she was praying, found herself in the gulag and because sadly of her upbringingthey then said right we're going to put you in solitary confinement. She refused to dothat because of what I've been through when I was a child and they said well if you won't go into solitaryconfinement then we're going to give you a jab and they gave her the fact she took the vaccine which is justanother subject of horrendousness. The abuse, the lack of food.The beatings that are going on is a reality and we need to see these people come out when as the theHouse has then gone to the Republicans.These people like Jim Jordan and everything else need to step up.Marjorie Taylor Greene, Gates, Gantz, Louie Gomer, the whole thing.They need to then step up and to throw the book at Cheney and Co. and Nadler and put and actually saythe truth of the situation and what actually happened on that day instead of this, you know, FBI led liesalong, of course, with Pelosi, etc.Just to quickly remind ourselves, five people at the hands of the DC police, including one DC policeman,Officer Signick, died that day. They died, Patriots died that day. And remember where Officer Signickis talked about, the Republicans, the people that were there on the day were criticized,were accused of beating him with a fire extinguisher.That was a complete and utter lie. You then look at the sad case of Roseanne Boylan being physically beatenby the DC police with batons.We then have Ashley Baber of course shot by Brown inthe house. You then have two others as well that have died. This is abominable and I just want to pointout one last thing on this. Please go to stophate.com to a dear friend of mine, David.Somerall. Look at his work who's basically the principal expert on what is going on in regard to Jan 6.If it wasn't for him, that book wouldn't be happening. If it wasn't for him, then this issuewould not be as high up the list as it should be. But put it this way, it is not as high as it should,be and it needs to be up there in regard to mainstream news. People like Mike Huckabee, et cetera, I'm justgoing to say it, need to get him on their show along with others. This is important along with Bannon and allthe rest. Now we haven't got time to potentially...(HoO)We don't. Let me show you. J6patriotnews.com. It's in the chat there on GETTR. So let's move on to the first.Just a couple of people. Roger Grant Rav is first on Getter. ChrisDavis 33 is there. He's always Vicky. Do drop your comments. Let us know where you're watching.Always good to see that on the Getter chat, which is always busy. So do drop your comments in that and domake sure and look on the website, j6patriotnews.com. The link is in the getter,chat.Let's go to, completely different, north of the border, up in poor, Scotland. All you Scots who voted for theSNP, this is what you're now getting. And if you keep voting for the SNP.It'll just become more hellish for you north of the border. This is BBC UN Chief Back ScottishGovernment Gender Recognition Reforms. If we can just scroll that down Proj. And this is the trans right soI look at that beautifulLook at that, and someone's brought their child along. I mean, what sick perverts are you?And top UN officials back the Scottish government's plan to reform gender recognition law, ministers want [3:45]to make it easier for trans people to change their gender just so they can, while they're choosing what theirbreakfast cereal is, they can also choose what gender they wish to be that day.Mark, give us your thoughts on this madness.(MS)Well, my thoughts on this matter is I'm desperately trying to be polite, but this is complete and utter madness.So I think the first thing to say, there are only two sexes, male and female.The fact that in here, they want to speed up the process to go that you can decide to after your cornflakes oryour rice krispies, even though you're a man, you can suddenly go, I want to be a woman today and to say tospeed this up for three months.This is just outrageous.The other issue as well, of course, is if you are a man, you want to identify as a woman, if you then end up incertain situations.If you end up as a, say you are a male prisoner, you're saying, I want to identify as a woman now, gointo a female prison, and then we have a situation of rape and all this kind of thing.And people think, maybe I've just said an extremist comment.No, I haven't, because this is the reality of the situation and everything, as we say.As Bible-believing Christians, yes, let's say that, we know that this is a full and utter attack of whateverything that the scripture stands for, what everything that our faith actually stands for.J.K. Rowling is right.She's absolutely right when she has called all of this out. And the, I mean, in many ways, we know where thisis going.This has been planned for a long, long time. People are unaware of that. But I also will say, I think this is acomplete and utter mental illness, frankly, Peter.There are many, many things that we could put within that. I have sympathy for a lot of people that havemental problems, but the fact this is a spiritual battle.And now within the education, within the Scottish system, the relationship and sex education andwanting to push the fact that if you're going to on four and five year olds,discuss issues that four and five year olds should not know and you can even say they shouldn't know untilthey're 16 years of age.I'm not just, I'm not going to bring those up, but people can think about that. Frankly, Peter, it'smadness as far as I'm concerned.(HoO)Let me just bring up this story. I hadn't talked about the story Mark, but I want to just mention it because itfits into this. And that's why you're very popular. Shut that off. (strange music starts) Is that you?(MS)No, it's not me. It's not me. It's not me. Yes, it is me. I do apologize.(HoO)That's okay. He's popular. He's popular. Someone's not watching him on the show, realizing he'slive. Let me just bring up this story because again, if it's in, I'll just mention it. This New York Post two daysago, BBC covered it yesterday. Norwegian actress Tondre Gjelvjorn,my Norwegian isn't so good, faces up to three years in prison for saying men cannot be lesbians. And then itcomes out later, yesterday she is gay. So she's a lesbian. So as a lesbian,she said that men can't be lesbians and she's now facing three years in prison for saying that according toNorway's hate speech legislations, which it just shows the state of Europe and,compelled speech, extremely dangerous, whenever truth can be a lie and it's irrelevant, right or wrong. That'swhere we're going. What happens when you abandon any concept of truth.This is where you head. I just wanted to bring that up, but let's go on to, there are lots of others. Solet's jump on to COVID to add to the madness. And this is what's, it's been verycurious watching the last two weeks over in China. And this is Shanghai schools to go online as COVIDspreads in China. Pro Jam, do you want to just scroll that down? This is all the children,and of course still masked up, even with the vote being fully jabbed, not with an Mrna jab,which is also really interesting.But it's the largest city.And they're all been told they now should go online effective from Monday. And it's, yeah, Mark,you've watched what's happening with China and their zero COVID policy and the pushback against that.Once again, the children are going to be punished for stupidity in the government.(MS)Well, it's very interesting, isn't it?Because they've just had a sort of a plandemic rerun of event 201 in Australia where they're they're focusingon children saying something's happening in Brazil and all this kind of thing.They've done a simulation here. We also must remember that the Chancellor of the Exchequer over here,Jeremy Hunt, who sort of during the COVID-Novid nonsense was espousing the delights of how the Chinesewere handling this.We saw scenes of people being put in their, they were in their flats and having doors sealed because they hadgot they are tested positive for a virus. And again, we have allthese testing, instead of turning around and saying how many people have actually died.From this. Then they have pushed forward all these vaccinations. Did you just say that the vaccinationto the Chinese was not mRNA?(HoO)That's what I read two days ago and that was Fortune magazine that said that not one Chinese citizen hasbeen offered mRNA vaccine. I thought, wow.And I haven't delved deeper into that. I'm just putting that as what I read in Fortune magazine two,three days ago.(MS)So we have to remember, of course, you know, and then we've got Fauci in America, gained a function.I can't recall 215 times or something in the recent legal action that he was a witness in. Why are wesurprised?People have got to wake up to event 201, September, October, 2019, where they simulated everythingthat is now unfolding.We then go to Australia, where it's children, et cetera, et cetera, and we see what is unfolding.And very, very sadly, we see those children with masks.We're now going to push their education onto Zoom. So there's even more mental health problems,they're creating, more socialization problems that they are creating. The fact is China is a technocracy. It's atechnocracy. Complete lockdowns, complete control.And let's just remind ourselves something, Peter. Who was the man, you know, there he is, fronting theWorld Economic Forum.Who was the man that is espousing the delights of the leader of China? I think it's the biggest bond villainwe've never had, Klaus Schwab. Yeah.(HoO)Absolutely. Let's go for closer to home. Projam. up the next one on what they're doing planning here in theUK.This was in the Telegraph a day or two ago. Meet the man preparing for Britain's next pandemic from aportacabin.The story is a joking story about him, someone knocking the windows, the postman, he has to get upand the building they're in is a prefab building.But this man is prepping the next stage, the next wave, however we want to look at it. He could be one of themost dangerous individuals in the UK.I read the story, again, a lot of information about him and what they've set up. I don't know much about hisbackground.I would have thought he would want to stay in the shadows, but it's a joking story, mocking this and that.And it's concerning, obviously, that our government is all getting ready,all planning for the next, I think the next stage, I would say, is a fair response to,that.(MS)Well, I come back to Jeremy Hunt again. You know, Jeremy Hunt, who's actually running the country,not Rishi Sunak. Jeremy Hunt, who turned around and absolutely celebratesexposes the spouses, the delights of China and their reaction, their reaction to this. I mean, this whole thingof.So you have SARS, you have MERS, you create whatever you can, you know, Ebola and all the rest.This is not a popular thing to say, of course, because for some of us who do not have a medical backgroundover the last two to two and a half years,we have tried to educate ourselves and say that the best immunity you have is our body. So whatever's beenput in the water,the food, the air, the throwback to the fact that phar marcia here we break downmeans magic, the fact that we should not even be having any of these vaccines, any of these pills, etc. And itis about making an industry a load of money. So you then go to Pfizer in 2008, 2009, I think through asubject,subject through, we may have to check this afterwards, something called a pill,called Merck or something like that and they with all the damage that's done where people are taking thisthey then have to pay a fine up to 14 billiondollars. Okay, the link here and this is not funny to actually turn around and say we're gonna lock peopledown because their genocidal agenda and.And it is, we look at the injuries that are now coming forward.They are absolutely, I mean, you're just in tears listening to people's stories.We look at when we've got people like John O'Looney who then able to do an autopsy on a particular body.It's been out there, it's been, bless him, he's been talking about that.There was on the film, Died Suddenly, you were then got an autopsy in New Zealand, a guy out there.And they've been pulling out these long strands. Look at what's happening is doing to people's blood and theclotting and all the rest. So all these long strands.I am not a medical doctor. I'll just say that. But the key is this is wrong.It's as though they're being like plasticizer going on. And mRNA, as you know, recent technology, of coursethey've had it planned for a long, long time.They haven't properly tested this and all the rest and they've rushed it out.And it's a mass psychosis on the population, as that incredible professor whose name has just gone from me,from Belgium, where he talks about this.Desmond Matisse, sir. Desmond.Precisely. So My Body, My Choice does not seem to apply when people are turning around and going, sorry,with great respect, I believe in terrain, and I don't believe in germ theory.This is not a joke, and as you said, so the next thing is plan to lock us down, wreck the economy, bringin the social credit score and all the rest, and I think very sadly.People like Rishi Sunak seem to believe in this, whether that's through a father-in-law's company ofInfosys that's then involved in China and involved in all these processes. We are not making this up.The key verse says, Hosea 4 verse 6 says, "'My people are destroyed through lack of knowledge,' and weneed to get this knowledge.There's now, I'll tell you what, Peter, we need to do some research.There is the accusation, of course, We know that Rishi has been involved in various financial dealings, hedgefunds, etc. in America. And there is an accusation of a particular hedge fund investing in AstraZeneca,leading to Moderna, etc. etc.That is an accusation that's out there. That needs to be followed up.And we need to research this and find out because all of these guys are up to their neck in it. We have toremember when Boris Johnson was having the Gavi conference and saying that he's going to use ourtaxpayers' money to go in that direction.What about the comments he made at the UN roundabout September, October 2019?He's having a go at anti-vaxxers. He's bestowing the delights of nanobots and all this kind of thing.This is a reality. We are seeing the damage and the mass psychosis, the mass psychological attackfrom, you know, nudge, etc, etc.They've done such a good job on this, which is awful.We've still got people around in society in this country wearing masks. I have to work out.Forgiving here and just going, you are completely and utterly believe the Kool-Aid of what you'vebeen given through the mainstream media and please, please, please start listening to usand doing some of the research. But this has been, I hate to say it, extremely clever on the enemy's side.(HoO)Oh yeah and Died Suddenly, I watched it over the last couple of days ago and one of thereasons why I knew I had to watch it. And then just for the viewers, we've got Richard Hirschman onMonday. Obviously I've interviewed John O'Looney, interviewed Steve Kirsch, and I wanted to watch itbefore I get interviewed. And it is a frightening... I still, and I'll just say this,the point will not discuss, but I still am not at the point of accepting the depopulation.And I'm holding off on that.But even without that, which is a kind of thread throughout the film, what they're putting forward is utterlyfrightening and it's even more concerning that no one is allowed to talk about it.So the film is phenomenal film. You need to watch it to our viewers and listeners and you need to pass it on.And we'll have Richard Hirshman with us on Monday who was along with John O'Looney and thegentleman from New Zealand who I've forgotten, the three of them were the funeral directors,the embalmers who were showing those long threads and strings and elastic substances,they were pulling out.But we'll not, I just wanted to mention that. Let's onto this and this is something that's mentioned.This is something which I have looked at recently and become really, really concerned about. This story,cancer crisis reaches a watershed moment as experts warn upward trend in deaths is likely tocontinue. So you've got people not seeing, I think only 60% of people now see a cancer specialist within twomonths of being referred for an urgent appointment from their their GPs. So you've got,one side you've got lockdown decimating our health services. But then you've got the other side of mRNAand the information is comingout on the spike proteins and how it can affect cancerous growth and speed it up. And that's the wholearea I need to go.But those two in my head make this concerning. It's coming out and it's just getting worse and worse, thecancer rates.(MS)Well, I think the issue is it's about neglect, isn't it? If you have not been able to see your specialist with thehealth problem that you have had,then that saying the obvious is not rocket science, is it?That means that your need is not being seen to. As a dear friend of mine who works in the NHS systemwithin the middle of the country,it's still going on about the fact that doctors are not returning to work properly.To access a doctor, to have an appointment online, etc. The delay is huge.Nurses are not going back. But then again, if they were threatened with a jab and they refused to have a jab,then do you blame them?There needs to be some very, very big secure legal action on this. So doctors are still being very well paidwithin certain practices that we are all paying for. And they are not seeing the patients.The other thing is, and maybe, Peter, this is something that we can all contribute to, is that these people,sadly, that are suffering from cancer and all the rest, we need to be looking at homeopathic remedies, andthey are there.I am not an expert on that. A friend of mine, Kate Shimarni, is in regard to, has a lot to say on that herself andin regard to her own personal health.People have as well and those some of those experts are in are in America we need to address those.So we need to be encouraging as, Kate is, people to take responsibility for their health what can theydo and we know we know the attacks that are coming in so without sort of repeating myself I'll saythis if you are being denied access to these specialists then sadly the situation you are in,is going to get worse and this is where I would say that as far as I'm concerned that is contrived,I believe of course that is deliberate and it isn't the physical effects and then contribute then linked with themental effects and this combined-ness is horrific. [22:43]If people are going, how long does it take to get an ambulance to people if you're looking at this inLondon and all the rest? So the demands are huge. But the other thing is, is that we have got to, I'm speakingto myself, we have got to take responsibility for our own health.What can we do? We need to be educating ourselves over that.And you and I have access to incredible people that can do that. And that's what we need to be doing.And these doctors, et cetera, need to be getting back to work immediately.And of course, sadly, a number of those, as a particular gentleman who's the heart specialist, We'll come onto that article later, who has been speaking out.NHS doctors, a number of those, are fully aware of what's going on. They need to be speaking out as well.(HoO)Yeah, completely. Well, let's, over in the States, let's look at some rhinos. So this, I saw the story yesterday.Here are the Republicans who voted against reinstating troops who refused the vaccine. Now the story is thatfour Republican senators joined Democrats in shutting down an amendment to defense authorization packagethat would have reinstated troops discharged for refusing.To take the COVID-19 vaccine.It was Mitt Romney, is he actually a Republican? I can't even say his name with a Republican in the samesentence.Susan Collins of Maine, Bill Cassie of Louisiana and Mike Rounds of South Dakota. They voted no in thelast mid-amendment so it failed.I don't understand the evil of these people to refuse because my understanding is that you've got your jab-jaband then you were told that was good for a long time, then you're told actually it was me good for ninemonths, six months, three months.But these people haven't been forced to take a booster.So even if you believe that, that actually that was good for nine months, actually then And after ninemonths…,it doesn't work according to what we're told. Therefore, it doesn't make sense to keep the mandate wheneveryou are not continually rolling out the booster. But not to get these peopletheir jobs back is quite sick. And these are obviously rhinos, I guess, dancing to Biden's,tune.(MS)Well, of course, it's absolutely sick. And you look at those individuals, you look at people like Mitt Romneyfor argument's sake, let's just go to that.Establishment, a part of the globalist order, we haven't got time to discuss that tonight. He is totallyand utterly in on it.And the four people there deciding to vote against reinstating all these people to make sure that they'remilitary, they're supposed to be protecting them, but they're most of all got their own private armed services,themselves that they pay for. They are being paid by the taxpayer and they are then they've just voted againstthis. These people need to be in jail. This isoutrageous. All of these people need to be called out and they are and they are then turning around to theirmilitary, weakening their military even more andgoing right we're gonna vaccinate these people. We have had a lot of American military then leave, resign etcover this. Their religious rights.As committed Christians etc have not or if they are of other faiths have not been respected one iotaand I'll say this without sounding conspiratorial but if you want to weaken,a country's defense this enough is a very very good way of actually doing it. We have got some of They havegot some of the elitist military service people, personnel in the world.We could have an argument between our own special boat service and theirs and their rangers and all therest.But they are top. And then these people are having vaccinations and you've got these extremely fit youngmen, young women suffering from myocarditis, suffering from all the rest that in the video guide suddenlyactually raises.But more importantly, more importantly, people have to realise that within Washington DC politics, the [27:51]Republicans and the Democrats, they're two wings of the same bird.And if God is giving that time, all of these disgusting pieces of work need to be thrown out of the House,thrown out of the Senate, etc. And we know that at the moment that is not easy because of the digital.That goes on from creating a situation where you've got voting day, to voting week, to voting month,to voting season.We only have to look at what's been happening with Kari Lake in Arizona. So I hope that these people, thefour of these names, will never ever ever be forgotten.(HoO)Yeah, yeah. Let's go over to the WHO and the awards given out, the WHO awards ceremony, and it goes,to this individual, Sir Jeremy Farrar, and the headline in the mail.And it's interesting how suddenly you've got the media on the right now wanting to talk about it afteractively trying to destroy people's lives as much as they could for two years.They now pretend they're the mouthpieces of truth and freedom.But China's puppet, the World Health Organization, named Sir Jeremy Farrar the influential scientist whohelped to crush COVID lab leak theory as conspiracy as its new chief scientist.This is one of the most prestigious roles in the world of science. It seems though he has been rewarded forhis acceptance of whatever China would put out.He was happy to be their mouthpiece and now he's been rewarded with his 30 pieces of silver.(MS)Is there in that article is Imperial college mentioned in that article or was Imperial college mentionedin the man that's in his sort of mobile, mobile cabinet?The reason I say that is because we have to remember the Imperial college and they all focus in, Oh, youknow, a hundred thousand people are going to die. No, it goes down to 20,000.The biggest non-mathematician that we've ever had. All of these things, how these models are created. Nowin regard to this gentleman who I don't know, I've I've just read this article very briefly. So then we're.Crushing the COVID, novid nonsense lab theory. Well, let's just go, what about gain of function? Sowe are stopped from doing gain of function in America. We then Fauci says, and here is the, there is a linkhere.Fauci then says in 2017 that the Trump administration is going to face a pandemic.Well, how the beeper beep do you know that?So then the WHO are covering this up, the man in front of the WHO from Ethiopia, a member of a terroristgroup in the past or the group that the Americans round about,94, 95 or say, no, maybe 2005,six Tetros says you're a member of a terrorist organization, etc.Then suddenly there's all this legislation to hand over the individual responsibility of a country's healthpolicy to the who.And of course, who backs the who? Bill Gates, who backs them? China, they're all involved. So thisparticular gentleman, with great respect, sir, you need to actually look at what is going on.You need to look at the Wuhan lab. You need to look at that smart city.You need to look at the 5G.You need to look at all this technology of control that's coming about. And then you need to look atthe vaccines and the damage that they are doing to people.And the deaths that are being caused and the injuries are being caused. And then please can we have apolite conversation and actually say to you, where is your moral compass now?(HoO)Moral compass in regards to China and the WHO and this. Pro Jam, can you bring up the next story?On what was the next story? Our next story was the absolutely wonderful Andrew Bridgen.For those who don't know, Andrew Bridgen is one of our 650 MPs and has spoken in the House ofCommons.There have been a number of others, handful, you can count them on one hand. This individual has, this isthe headline from the Express, it's all over.MP alleges cover-up of COVID vaccine, inflaming heart arteries in bombshell claim. Well, this claim hasbeen made for quite a long time now, but an MP has used parliamentary privilege to make a bombshell [32:49]allegation that a senior member of the British Heart Foundation has covered up a report,which shows the mRNA COVID vaccine increases inflammation of the heart arteries. So he is telling us theinformation is there. They've got a report to tell us the dangers of thisand the report is being quietly put away. The sad part was that I didn't see any other end.He's jumping up to his defence. It was, it was silence, but well done, Andrew Bridgen for being anabsolute hero and going in there to the lion's den and facing off such anger and vitriol against anyone whowould dare hold an.Opinion that actually this vaccine is killing us.(MS)I couldn't agree with you more on it. It's a, it's a real privilege for me to actually comment on thisbecause Andrew I think is an absolute hero in what he did.We do know, we can see as some people have pointed out to me, how empty the benches in the House ofCommons were and I'd ask them to put that aside because the point is this is that he has nowgone on the record to express truth. He has gone on the record to express how many many of us have He hasgone on the record to actually say the truth where certain friends of ours have been billified,we've been called conspiracy theorists and all the rest, for speaking the truth for some time.This is a particular MP who publicly admitted that he has had two vaccines. We have seen people like EstherMcVeigh as another member of parliament who has begun to raise some of these issues.There is a number of people. We need MPs, whereas people like Steve Baker, etc. We need these MPsto speak out. There's another individual as well whose name...Charles Walker has spoken and Swain has also spoken.Is there a guy called Kruger? Could be.So Andrew said it absolutely brilliantly, the particular doctor that he quoted, whose name has just gone fromme as well, I do apologise, who has recently been over in America on Tucker talking about what hashappened.Doctor that went on G.B. News and he was pushing the vaccines and then suddenly through his ownfather's death and his own investigation, he then turned around and said, no, this is wrong.These are wrong and we should not be pushing this.He also raised the fact that the the Heart Foundation, etc.Were were just saying, no, we're not having this investigation whatsoever. Now going going back to Andrewand what he said, and it's not unusual for Andrew to challenge things and to hold to hold the governmentgovernment to account.He has been a thorn in the flesh on previous, you know, conservative manner of administrations. And if Iwere part of his constituency in Leicester, I would right now be sending an email for my MP going,You've got my you you have my prayers and I'm extremely proud of you for what you have done becausemany many I watched I've seen it.I've watched that speech. Many many people have watched that and there is much applause.Now Andrew as I say he desperately needs our prayers and our and God's protection in that in thatway. and like all these people, a bit like Neil Oliver when he is speaking out and when he does hisincredible 10 or 11 minute presentations. And I find it fascinating that in many ways in this country there arenon-Christians that are leading the vanguard to this. It's another subject,but where is the church's voice on this? We have no Christian, let's just say it publicly, we have,no Christian institution in this country addressing the issue of vaccines. And I'm pleased and so,pleased to see a Member of Parliament of Andrew Brigdon of turning around and saying, I'm going torepresent my constituents. I believe this is true. I am concerned about this. And I'm,going to speak on behalf of the rest of the population within the UK that actually share my views and it is theevidence is out there the particular doctor that he he quoted is an absoluteexpert on this and that particular doctor also revealed that once he spoke out other people came andsaid this is true but we can't talk about it we need all these doctors etc to start speaking out but of course it'sgoing to be you're not going to get your pension we're going to well,We're not actually, this is the key thing. [37:49]People who are accessing research funding are turning around and saying, well, if we speak out, we'renot going to get our research funding. This is wrong, where in the sense of howbig pharma is dictating health policy in this country.Need to look at and I just say the word pharmacy, pharmacia, meaning magic. Bear that in mind froma spiritual and scriptural point of view.(HoO)Let me just play, it's just a minute, so let me just play that clip from the Express of Andrew Bridgenspeaking and you can see the packed parliament. Let me play it.(audio plays of Andrew Bridgen MP)'It has also been brought to my attention by a very reliable source that one of these institutions is covering upclear data that reveals that the mRNA vaccine increases inflammation of,the heart arteries. They are covering this up in fear that they may lose funding from the pharmaceuticalindustry. The lead of that cardiology research department has a prominentleadership role with the British Heart Foundation and I'm very disappointed to say that he has sent out nondisclosure agreements to his research team to ensure that this important,data never sees the light of day. This, Madam Speaker, is an absolute disgrace. Such systemic failure in anover-medicated population also contributes to huge waste of British taxpayers' money and increasing strainon the NHS.Huge waste.'(MS)So there are four members of parliament in there listening to this. Now what about the benches on the otherside?How many are there on the other side? So in other words, let's just say it.(HoO)But Mark, there are four on that side, the one that government minister has to respond. You've got fourother MPs there.Three of them are staring at their phones as far as I can see. They're not interested in people dying.(MS)Well, there's a particular, there was an individual that I saw last night and I saw him who has had thevaccines and you know, I'm nearly in tears when I'm listening to him and theeffect on his body of this particular young man.There are a number of others again saying this, publicising what has happened against them.This is disgusting. And then we have Rishi Sunak, our technocratic coup fronter, turns around and says, oh,there's nothing wrong with the vaccines and I completely support this and all of this.The fact that the members of parliament, someone has mean this, you know.Discussing this, there's no one in there, but when they're discussing their pay rise, the whole ofWestminster is absolutely full. Now, I say it again, Andrew Brigdon is anincredibly brave man and an honourable man now to then look at the evidence, the evidence has come to himand he, over a period of time, would have assessed that evidence and by usingparliamentary privilege, which frankly we should all have that privilege and we all, that is this thing calledfree speech, we can turn around and say well I believe this, there has been anaccusation that we need to look into. We are, we are, we have a right to have our opinion and that's,why the whole address that Andrew Brigdon made was so important to many of us because he wasarticulating in the Houses of Parliament how we have felt when so many people, and a particularindividual I can think of, where they're taken to court, they are prosecuted, because they've actually spokenup and said the truth. You know, it's outrageous.(HoO)Well, I want to jump over three more stories. I want to jump over to New Zealand, and this isfollowing on, I'm sure we covered this last week on our program. This is second anti-vax,couple. Hey, everyone should be anti-vax at this stage. I certainly am anti-vax at this stage. I wasn't before,so thank you, my government for turning me into a full on anti-vaxer.Second anti-vax couple want unvaccinated blood for seriously ill toddler. And the issue was last time where achild's been taken away froma couple, not because actually there's surgery about to happen, but it's because it will have to happen atsome point and they say they don't want unvaccinated blood. This is really scary,where we're going because obviously the concern is you get a blood transfusion, you're unvaccinated, youreceive blood which has dangerous spike proteins, whatever else is in it, and then And actually you've chosennot to get injected by this experimental jab, but you get it through,a blood transfusion.And obviously our government don't give a damn, but they'll pump you with anything they want to.And I fear for this couple that the same thing will happen to them. They'll have their children taken away.(MS)Well, there is precedent through us through to this through different means. and we have to remember duringthe 90s of the, and just before that, of blood coming fromAmerican prisoners in America, and this was big then under the Clinton campaign, and I can speakanecdotally from first-hand experience where a dear friend of mine had a blood transfusion and and was thenwas then infectious with hepatitis B, etc.There has been a huge and praise God, completely healed.There has been a huge court case that started at the beginning of covid, no big nonsense because people hadtaken the finally the NHS in court were beginning to address this issue. And of course, it's been veryconvenient.Because people are now come to the New Zealand case in a minute.But this is important because people that were seeking compensation, a number of those people had died, anumber of those people had contracted, you know, full-blown aids and all this rest.This is a reality and of course that blood was then brought over from America via prisoners. So this isappalling isn't it? So this couple have turned round and gone, no we're not vaccinated, we're not vaccinated.Reason we will now push this forward. Now there was a discussion on needing blood banks fromunvaccinated people.And look at how there was enough division as it is. Then we create even more division and look athow this can absolutely carry out.At the moment, with great respect, hospitals are not the places that we want to end up in. Exactly. And I'mnot saying that for a fact. So this couple desperately need our prayers,they're entitled. We look at, you know, Jacinda, Jacinda Mann de Hearn. I mean, this is just appalling. This isjust appalling. I have prayed that that woman just gets kicked out politically.And that someone genuinely comes in who actually believes in that country and help turn thingsaround.I cannot say enough how appalling this is. They have a right.They have a right to how their child is treated.They have a right to their opinion, which they can back up medically. Now, what would happen if thischild then has a full blown transfusion?We then see the fact that that blood is tested, it is infected and all the rest. We don't even want to go downthat road.But this could be happening in that case and in other people's cases. And why do they not respect, this isinteresting, it's linked with the Scottish article that you put up earlier. Why do they not respond?The comments and the authority of the parents in this situation, because the state wants to own thechildren.This is another way of the state undermining family, and there has been enough attack on that as it is.(HoO)Yeah. Let's go to our final two stories, This one on immigration, which gets pushed to the sidelines wheneverour children are being killed through a jab.Channel migrants to be housed in holiday camps.And that is that more than 44,000 migrants have crossed the channel this year and officials believethere are 6,000 more coming in the coming weeks.Disuse in off-season holiday parks, because they've used up all the hotels, are said to be turned into [48:19]accommodation for channel migrants as ministers attempt to reduce the $5.6 million,a day being spent on hotels, which is what, just over $2 billion. It's wonderful when you can turn up in thecountry. I certainly haven't had that privilege, Mark, turning up in the country and suddenly, well, your hotelis ready, sir. We know you haven't paid,but here, we'll give you accommodation. I guess we are paying for this nice jolly that these 44,000 men offighting age are having?(MS)Well, absolutely. The issue that has to be said is that if you are not, as a country, able to defend your bordersor in charge of your borders, then we have the definition of country being redefined.It's very, very simple, but this has been going on for a long time.We look at, of course, the migration issues in Europe that have gone on a couple of years ago and sadly ababy's body is washed up on the beach and then suddenly...Mass migration into Europe, into Germany, Sweden, etc. etc. This is the English Channel. In 1944, wecrossed the English Channel. Hitler didn't come over. It was dealt with. We crossed,over the English Channel. We floated the Mulberry Harbours and we invaded Europe. It's a very, very busy,dangerous piece of water. The Navy helped in that situation. We of course had Dunkirk,a load of little ships went over and we brought all these soldiers back. Get the British Navy off its backsideand out there and start turning these boats back. And the problem is, if under TeresaMay you had signed the global migration compact without discussing that with the British public.And I had written a letter to my then Member of Parliament asking about this issue and a particularindividual wrote back and I need to find these letters and publish them on my website,along with a few other letters on various subjects. And the issue was this, oh no, no, No, no, this won't affectus.It's very simple.It's very, very simple indeed.Turn them back. Get them back.This has to stop and you're right. The other issue of men coming over of a fighting age.John O'Looney has said some very, very interesting comments about this that we all need to do someresearch and follow up.Because if you want to cause chaos in a country, and let's just quickly look at Europe, we quickly look atwhat happened in Spain, Catalan, et cetera.At various times, and also in France with the yellow vest, at various times when police forces are incomplete black Star Wars garb.Where they are unrecognizable, we then wonder where the particular forces that are in those uniformshave actually come from.And there is a correlation here.If you did want to put down the people of a particular country, you're not going to ask your local police force,your local army to actually do that because there will be personal relationships with that.We only have to go back to our own history of the miners strike in this country, where you were bringing upmetropolitan police officers up to the Midlands and there wasn't the family commitments.That is what has been going on in Europe. I suspect we need to find the proof. So why are these gentlemenover here?With various crew cuts and all the rest. Is there a correlation between this? This accusation needs to belooked at very very quickly,but I'll tell you something if a country is not in charge of its own borders, if it's not in charge of its ownmoney supply, if it's not in charge of its own laws, etc.And it's not. Then the definition of a country is then completely and utterly and in not in charge of itsown language then thecountry is defined as a non country so ending if we end this in the in one sense if we look at the Tower ofBabel biblically hence all that's going on, [53:19]hence that there is a repeat of that so if you then write the book the fourth Industrial Revolution whichbasically is the fourth Reich then this is the,situation you are using. You are using this situation to undermine the foundations of a country and to thenchange it.(HoO)Yeah. Let's finish off on two minutes on UK politics. We don't really want to talk depressing the state ofpolitics in the UK, but this is a shock poll suggests Labour will win 314Commons majority at general election and Tories will be left with just 69 MPs. Thank you Lord.And with even Rishi Sunak losing his seat. Projam, can you just scroll down just to the graph, to themap? There's a map all in red. There it is. There it is. That is what the UK will look like,after. And I kind of think it serves them right, Mark. And actually, under Keir Stammerick, I don't think itcould be any worse. But what are your thoughts on these Rhino Tories getting kicked out?(MS)Whoa.Absolutely. Well, the problem is where, you know, every single party you could argue within the,within the commons is either socialist light, socialist extreme, socialist not so obvious, socialist obvious.Yeah.So, Keir Starmer, this is what the chattering classes of Islington, etc.This is what they want. And the press and all the rest, they have never forgiven Boris Johnson for the factthat he led the Brexit revolt, even though remember he's a populist.It's all about being popular.He's an opportunist. We can say, a number of us can say that now. is a is a closet liberal and and reallyif you really ask you know I don't believe is a conviction politician whatsoever. Yes you are right. The,issue is this is that so many of them they are all the same and the problem is about socialism it workswonders until they run out of other people's money. So,we have the SNP, we have the Welsh Nats, we have Sinn Fein, we have the Labour party and then of coursewe have these conservatives. A country that is not sorting out the fact that it needs to establish amanufacturing base, it needs to export basic economics. I'm not an economic expert but I am self-employed.That doesn't then work. It defines, it,impress one iota and of course it would be led by you know Starmer as an interesting individual people needto research his past however the the thing is what about what the low labor party backed in regard to covenno big they wanted something that was even even worse and worselockdowns and worse this and worse that they're not in it you know what about life liberty and in thepursuit of happiness within our own, within our own country and freedom.They actually don't they don't want it because every single person virtually except Andrew Bridgen, exceptEsther McVey, except a few others.The rest of them believe in statism. The real quick issue is this. Whatever people think of Liz Trussnow, you know, blowing up Nord Stream 1, Nord Stream 2.An interesting little theory there.The key thing is this, and Kwasi KwatengSuddenly it was like, we need to go for economic growth. We need to grow ourselves out of thisproblem.Now, if you then create a huge downturn in the Asian markets and you deliberately go, oh, let's panic.Now we're gonna get rid of her. she then makes her.State, now we then bring in, we bring in this technocrat. There is no difference between Rishi Sunakand Starmer. There is no difference politically in either side. That's why I turnaround and say slightly sarcastically, it's socialism light or it's socialism heavy.(HoO)Yeah, completely. Mark, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your views. Always Good to haveyou with us. So thank you for your time tonight. [57:44](MS)And it's an absolute privilege and lovely to join you. And thank you. Thank you for letting me rant. I doappreciate it.(HoO)I enjoy your ranting.So don't you worry. It's always good fun. Let me just say there were there were two pictures justwant to show you as we finish.Obviously, Sam Bankman Fried, who's the who set up a Ponzi scheme pretending it was a cryptocurrencyand funded all the Democrats.Actually, he's on suicide watch now and I believe we've just got a picture of his prison guard so I think hedoes need to worry about his suicide watch.He may be no more. So do pray for Sam that, actually the same thing, he doesn't have an Epstein moment.Let me show the other two.This was a picture I sent someone who, this was at the airport whenever I flew back last time and this was anindividual.I don't know where he put that on because he saw me, but anyway, that he was heading off to the airplane,wasn't on mine.And I said that to my friend.This is what they sent back. And I think it's a good model for us to live this week. And I know thisdoesn't apply to any of you.And it is this John Wayne quote, 'life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid' and I think sometimes wemeet many stupid people.So, life is tough, but you watching are not stupid. You want to understand, you want to reason, but there aresome stupid.So be gentle with the stupid people you meet this week. Be gentle with them.And on that, I wish our viewers a wonderful rest of your evening. Thank you for joining us. Enjoy the rest ofyour Saturday, your weekend, and we will see you with Richard Hirschman on Monday from the film DiedSuddenly.



Thursday Dec 15, 2022
Matthew Tyrmand - Brazil Saying No to Communism Rule and Election Fraud
Thursday Dec 15, 2022
Thursday Dec 15, 2022
The worlds media are doing their best to ignore what has been happening in Brazil following the Presidential Elections. Matthew Tyrmand is one of the worlds top investigative journalists and he has been one of the most outspoken in calling out this South American steal. A great many Brazilians are refusing to accept the election results, remember that Lula had his 12 year jail sentence overturned by the Supreme Court just so that he could run against Bolsonaro. After nearly 2 months of silence, Bolsonaro finally spoke to his people last week to say he would fight on and win. Join us this episode for all the latest and Matthew's expert analysis of the situation. #VivaBrazil Matthew Tyrmand is a journalist (both investigative and editorial), political strategist, activist, consultant, and investment banker. He is a dual Polish and American citizen deeply engaged in the battle of political ideas in both the USA and Europe. As an unabashed nationalist and populist, he is an outspoken critic of the European Union and American-engineered globalist multi-lateralism and is a consistent voice in the battle to take back Westphalian nation state sovereignty. In the U.S. he works closely with organizations focused on bringing robust fiscal transparency, prudence, and accountability to the public sector as well as rooting out corruption in both the public and private sectors. In Poland, where his father was a pivotal mid-20th century anti-communist writer and dissident (and Holocaust survivor) and later an informal advisor to Presidents Nixon and Reagan on defeating communism, Mr. Tyrmand frequently appears in mass media commenting on Polish, American, and European political issues and contributes twice a week to Polish Television's (TVP) main English language news commentary show. For several years he penned a weekly column for one of Poland’s top conservative newsweeklies, Do Rzeczy. He has contributed to numerous English language platforms in the U.S. and Europe including, but not limited to; Breitbart, Forbes, The American Mind, The American Thinker, The American Conservative, The Jerusalem Post, The European Conservative, Big League Politics, Human Events, and numerous outlets in Poland including Wprost, Gazeta Polska, and SuperExpress in addition to authoring two books in the Polish market. He is an actively engaged board member of the guerilla journalism platform Project Veritas working closely alongside it's founder and leader, the modern-day muckraker, James O'Keefe on operations and strategy. Mr. Tyrmand is a Claremont Institute Lincoln Fellow, a Conservative Partnership Institute Haggerty-Richardson Fellow, and a member of the Philadelphia Society. Before getting involved in politics, policy, and activism, he spent his years after graduation from the University of Chicago as an analyst and trader on Wall Street, running equity long/short portfolios in the healthcare, tech, media, and telecommunications sectors for well known New York based hedge funds. Those who know him describe him as "enfant terrible" and describe his mouth as "a weapon of mass destruction."Follow and support Matthew on.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/MatthewTyrmandTwitter: https://twitter.com/MatthewTyrmand?s=20&t=DvFAH3osks4PFfPBfFDk0wOriginally broadcast live 15.12.22
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Transcript of episode(Hearts of Oak)And it's an absolute pleasure to have Mr. Matthew Tymrand back with us once again. Matthew, thank you.
(Matthew Tyrmand)Good to be with you, Peter. It's a pleasure being with you. Last time you blew up Sweden, now it's Brazil's turn.So, I think we talked about Sweden, France, Germany, all the sovereignist movements in Europe. It wasEurope. I guess now Latin America's my beat. Now you're going Latin. All good.
(HoO)You can follow Matthew, of course, at Matthew Tymrand on GETTR, on Twitter, and he is regularly on WarRoom giving an update of what's happening.I think Matthew and Gateway Pundit are the two main sources for actually getting an update on what'shappening in Brazil.But Matthew, Brazil, the elections were the second and 30th of October with the 30th being the runoff. It'sbeen six weeks ago and you've been on this from day one, day to day following it.Do you want to give us an overview of what's happened before we get into some of the nitty gritty stuff.
(MT)Sure. So I've been following Brazil. I never expected Latin America to be my beat as we discussed last time.I've got Polish family roots, Polish citizen, a lot of time in Europe working, Poland, Hungary, Sweden,Britain, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy, Spain. You know, Europe's my beat, you know, working right wingparty, covering...Populist movements, Sovereign Justice movements.But last year in September, 2021, I went down to CPAC Brazil to speak about media and other issues andwas with Jason Miller. And we met with Jair Bolsonaro, and set up a meeting for us.And that was widely covered.And we were detained at the airport by the Supreme Court, which as we'll discuss is not really a court asmuch as a dictatorship, a bunch of political appointees who are running rough shot over Brazilianconstitution and rule of law. They detained us and interrogated us and wanted to know who we met with andwanted us to literally write down names of politicians, journalists, activists, very Stasi-like so that they couldbe added to the enemies list. Obviously we declined to take part in such exercise, but we were held there andwe were finally let go.And I sort of wanted to understand what just happened there. I knew it was bad.I knew that there was a strong bifurcation in Brazilian society along political lines, much like the US, muchlike Poland, much like many countries in Europe and the West.And what I discovered in the following eight, nine months was as it really did deep dives into the people, theplayers, the politics, that it is been a judicial dictatorship and autocracy by the judiciary.Judges in theory, judges are supposed to adjudicate rule of law, constitutionality, especially at the SupremeCourt level.
And here you had a Supreme Court led by a guy who was appointed by the same political cabal as Lula DeSilva, the guy who just ran against Bolsonaro for president.And by background, he was president before.And he was convicted of many crimes.Public corruption was sent to prison.But he appointed a lot of judges before that, and after he went to prison, his vice president slash chief ofstaff, Chief of Staff there, sort of the second in line to the throne in the executive branch,Dilma Rousseff, she served as president for a few years before she was ensnared in the same corruptiongame, the very famous Operation Car Wash,where the Marxists, and they really are, Sao Paulo Forum Marxists, people that sort of come from the samesort of ideological bent, and this includes Chavez and Maduro, and we'll go through some of the Forum SaoPaulo people,that have swept Latin America.But she was also convicted and impeached.And then Temer came in and served out the rest of her time before Bolsonaro was elected.Now, all these judges on the Supreme Court, not all of them, two were appointed by Bolsonaro and eightwere appointed by Lula, Dilma and Temer, Lula and Dilma, eight, and then Temer was one.Alexander de Marais, this Supreme Court head, was appointed by Temer, a former Sao Paulo prosecutor.And he basically prosecutes from the bench. And he has given this court, just, you know, Audubon Bismarcksaid politics is the art of the possible.He's just taking control.These are not endowed rights, constitutionally endowed rights that the court has.But as I wrote about in this long article that I erred to really break down this dynamic ahead of the election aweek or so ahead of the first round of the Brazilian election, I wrote this or published this in September.The first round was October 2nd, as you noted. And I wrote that these are guys that if you could roll up thepowers in the U.S.Corollary would be the Supreme Court on a constitutional law basis, the prosecutors like the heads of theDOJ,or Justice Minister in European parliamentary parlance, the head of the prosecutor's office, the head of theinvestigative criminal division.They've got subpoena power. They've got a law enforcement that they have taken over, like an FBI or anMI5, I think it would be, in the UK, where it would be domestic criminality, the Police that would come andhave sort of jurisdictional rights, federally, nationally, as opposed to locally.And you rolled up all these powers in the US, like Sonia Sotomayor and Eric Holder and Jared Nadler andMerrick Garland and legislative members of the legislature who are political animals.You rolled up all these powers, you would have Marais in the Supreme Court. And so of course, they'rerunning rough shot over Brazilian society with these powers in their hands.They're censoring journalists, they're arresting journalists.They are Censoring politicians from Bolsonaro's camp and they're arresting them. Over the last two to threeyears they've been at war with the right. Everything that the right accuses them of,they then get convicted of. They say the right says the court is assaulting democracy and Constitutional law,so then they get arrested for the charge of assault on democratic institutions.If you criticize the court for overreaching, for abusing its power, then they actually arrest you or censor you,force you to be de-platformed by big tech under the guise of it's an assault on,institutional democracy, which is incredible projection. We know the left likes to project, but I mean, this iswhole new levels of evil hypocrisy in a political sphere.So they've put politicians under house arrest, journalists. There's a journalist who has been in exile in,in the US.Recently, Marais revoked his passport.They tried to execute an Interpol red notice against him because of what he writes. Again, journalism,writing. This is not violence.This is not calls for coups or insurrection. This is him writing very, very well-founded in constitutional lawabout their overreach.And so they tried to get Interpol to arrest him in the US and extradite him to Brazil so they can put him inprison.Obviously, Interpol declined to execute this red notice because they saw the frivolity and the abuse that wasinherent in it. So I mean, that's sort of like how we entered into this election cycle and at the same time.Very important to note, Lula De Silva was convicted by three separate courts long before Bolsonaro wasappointing any judges anywhere.This was 2015-16, the trials, convicted by three separate courts, 12 charges, 19 judges, 19 judges across threecourts, so like tribunal instead of juries, it's you know a bunch of judges on a panel, unanimously voted toconvict him.You know people 2012, when he was pushed out of office there were protests in the street and the militaryhelped defend those protests because they saw what he was doing it was widely exposed that he was sellingstate assets to China for cash in bags laundering it through car wash chain of car washes owned by thisparty's friends that's hence the name operation car wash and it was his judges that he appointed or hissubsequent president appointed or the subsequent president to that appointed, who let him out of prison,vacated his sentences and then annulled the convictions and expunged his record.So let him out of prison, annulled the sentences, first pending never-ending appeal, claiming that the courtsdidn't have jurisdiction.Now he was convictable in any court in the country because he stole from the whole country.So that's a canard, total bullshit. And then they just said, pending never-ending appeal, you're now free.And then as the appeals started, which never really went through, because before there ever was an appealheard, they vacated and annulled and expunged his record.And why is that important? Because in Brazil, there's a law, if you're a convicted felon, you cannot run foroffice.
(HoO)So, I mean, this seemed to be that the Supreme Court wanted Lula to run. I mean, a 12-year sentencesuddenly disappears under the orders of the Supreme Court, so he can run.
(MT)580 days out of a 12-year sentence he served, and he got off light because there should have been many,many more prosecutions.And there might have been had this not played out because they were always discovering more stuff on thepublic corruption, whether selling state assets, diverting state funds to friends, including the mainstreammedia, who are truly died in the wool leftists and Marxist sympathizers.You saw on election night, when they announced it for Lula, claps, there were two places where therewere audible cheers.The newsrooms of the mainstream press and the prisons.There are videos of of the prisons and everybody in the prisons is clapping and whoop, whoop, whoopingabout Lula.His base is narco Traficant, he even wears a hat from a from a famous Rio de Janeiro guerrila narcotrafficking group called CPXHe wore the hat in his limited campaigning, he couldn't really campaign too wide because everybody knowshes a corrupt convicted felon and he would be met with jeers, even when he was certified on Monday therewas nobody there supporting himand the one thing the leftists do really well is they go to the streets and they protest, they turn them out,they frequently astroturf. They try to make themselves look bigger and more prevalent than they really are interms of representation in society.Meanwhile, you've got 10 million Brazilian patriots by my estimate over the last 46 days now on the streetsof every city in Brazil and predominantly obviously Brasilia the capital but also Rio, São Paulo, BeloHorizonte, even places that are leftist strongholds in the north like Recife, Bahia, everywhere.And the revolution will not be televised.None of the global mainstream press is covering it all.The largest human manifestations in at least a democratic country, maybe during the late stages ofcommunism, when people went to the street in places like Hungary,and Czech Republic and Poland, there might've been comparable numbers per capita.And remember Brazil, big country, six largest country in the world, third largest economy in the Westernhemisphere, and second largest country in the Western hemisphere after US, Canada, then Brazil, massive220 million people.And you have a measurable amount of representation per capita on the streets, rain, shine, monsoon,whatever.They're there a lot of times outside military barracks, praying and begging the military to come and savethem.And this is a point Bolsonaro made that I'm absolutely co-opted and using in a speech he gave at.He invited the protesters into the grounds of the Alvarado Palace, the White House, Buckingham Palace, thepresidential residence. He gave a speech last Friday, then did a demonstration and a prayer vigil on Sundayand then another one on Monday. And by the way, letting, I mean how populous is that, letting people intothe presidential grounds so that he could, you know, walk up, hug people.And by the way, he could walk through a crowd and nobody would hurt him. They would hug him, theywould love him. Lula cannot go anywhere without 100 plus security guards because everyone wants to riphim shred from shred, limb from limb like Gaddafi. And the police who are on his detail are tipping off theprotesters where he is so they come and protest with, like when he was at a hotel last week or a week and ahalf ago meeting Jake Sullivan, Biden's national security advisor, because obviously they're part of the fix.Global leftism works together.If the military does not act, if they do not invoke Article 142 of the Brazilian Constitution, which is veryconstitutionally fitting and relevant here, it says in separated power,disputes, which certainly exists right now between the judiciary and the executive branch, as well as electionfraud, they have a constitutional right to audit the election, and in their attempt to do so, the TSE, asubsidiary court to the Supreme Court, the STF,blocked them out. They wouldn't give them the machines, they wouldn't give them the source code, theywouldn't give them the tabulation data. So they have very much grounds to act and stabilize society and theConstitution says the military is the stabilizing force in society because they're the institution that's mostgoverned and built up by the fundamentals of hierarchy and discipline and order. And if you notice onBrazilian flag, it's ordum and and progress, so order and progress.So you can't have progress unless you have order. And if you look at Latin America's history, military coups,you know, there was one 1965 that lasted 20 something years.They have a lot of belief in rule of law at this stage. Brazil is one of the most successful constitutionalrepublics in terms of really taking to Western classical liberal standards of rule of law and freedom. They donot have the unfettered First Amendment the US has, but they do have the right to assemble and protest anduse their voice, that's constitutionally protected. And then as they're trying to exercise that, Marais, who bythe way is also the head of the TSC, the Supreme Electoral Court.So the subsidiary court that oversees the elections.So the Chicanery, the pure evil, I mean, they're arresting now indigenous peoples who have become protestleaders.Indigenous peoples saw they were disenfranchised because they were historically left-wing voters. All theirvotes in many of these precincts went to Lula, even though they physically voted for Bolsonaro.And they say, what gives? The left has used them as a tool, a device for pushing their agenda for generations.They petitioned the UN committee on indigenous rights and said, hey, what gives? You're supposed toprotect their indigenous rights. But I guess that only works if we vote the right way, which is left.So they've been ignored.And now they're arresting them. arrested, they violently arrested one of the major guys, the chief of theGivenchy tribe on Monday after certification, in what I believe is an attempt to try and get the protesters toincrease and escalate their volatility and then inject violence.And the left did inject violence. Antifa came in, very few, but enough that they burned some buses, burnedsome cars, broke some windows.And of course Reuters took Globo, which is sort of CNN of Brazil, major mainstream media, dominantmedia player,took their account. Bolsonaro protesters are violent and you know, set fire to cars and break windows of cars.And by the way, every car window that was broken had a Brazilian flag on it or the symbol of thismovement. The Brazil was stolen flag, which is Brazilian flag that's black and white with Brazil was stolenon it.And so those are the windows getting broken, and there were even gas masks. I mean, in 45 days, 46 days,there had not been a single incidence of violence, vandalism, arson, and you know how we know there wasn'ta single incidence? Because if there was even a single incidence, it would be the only thing Globo wasrunning and the only thing they're sending to their their fellow traveling useful idiot leftist Marxists acrossthe globe whether that's Reuters or BBC or Washington Post, New York Times, but it's been crickets. It'sbeen crickets, in the New York Times did run a few reports, dispatches by Jack Nikis, their correspondent atBrazilian, saying that it's a little bit worrisome about the powers that Marais has taken and abused, censoringpoliticians.At the same time, the courts previously said that Bolsonaro should be held criminally liable for blockingtrolls on his Twitter, as the same court is saying, and personal Twitter, the same court is saying, we can remove the voices of anybody we claim, as assaulting democratic institutions by criticizing us, including Villa-Kesis, one of the leading senators, major parliamentarians, House of Deputies, lower house members of the legislature, Gustavo Guyer, Nicholas Ferreira, Carlos Zambelli, tons of journalists today.They just arrested four more journalists, a mixture of journalists, a pastor and an elected.I think it was two journalists, pastor and elected. Four more arrests. So, you know, Marais has said that if theprotesters stay out there, they're going to start proceedings to take away protesters' kids because they say it'schild abuse.Obviously, lefties, you know, brainwash their kids and bring them to all sorts of manifestations, frequentlyviolent ones, if you look at the Antifa types.So it's pretty fucked up there. It's pretty fucked up.
(HoO)Where does Bolsonaro, because Bolsonaro basically was silent for like 45 days and suddenly had, not pressconference, but he engaged with his supporters.That was on what, Friday, Saturday? And that was the first time he stepped in and said, no, we're going towin. We're going to fight this.
(MT)Why didn't they say that directly? It's not in his hands.I know a lot of people around him. I've got very good sources, whether it's military people, legislativepeople, executive branch people in the ministries, as well as around Bolsonaro advisors. I'm getting somereally good feel. Nobody's telling me anything directly because it's so fog of war.Nobody knows. Of course, when you're talking to government sources, everybody has their own agenda andstrategy, so you'll hear a lot of different things. I'll talk to one guy who says, no, we're acting tomorrow.We're going to do this. Another guy goes, nothing's happening. Another guy says, we're going to do it thisway in three days, and by the way, these things are probably in motion. They're just trying to push theirstrategy that they want and have me run it out as a reflexive sort of, you know, create a self fulfillingprophecy through the media. But the timeline is important.Bolsonaro did not concede the night of, he did not concede the next day.On Tuesday, he came out at three o'clock or two o'clock and gave a little press conference, spoke for twominutes and said, follow the constitution, we will follow the constitution. You know, if you believe protestingis warranted in assembling, that's your constitutional right, go to it.Then his chief of staff, who was kind of a technocrat, said we're gonna follow the transition protocols, alsoconstitutionally, but that wasn't a concession.That was them just trying to figure out what their move would be. They were gonna engage in this audit.The military was blocked out in their audit.In the meantime, there's been lots of fraud discovered.Their political party, the Liberal Party, party of the party of the liberal, Bolsonaro's party, put their own reporttogether about fraud and what did the court do with it?They fined the party 22 million reais, about four or five million bucks, and put the head of the party, who isan elder statesman in Brazilian politics, been around for generations, a very serious guy, nobody has everaccused of anything untoward, put him on a criminal law, the same fake news investigation list he's beenwriting, so put them on the criminal list, that they're gonna investigate him for criminal activity.Now, by the way, they're adding all sorts of other people, Bolsonaro's former cabinet members and previousin the first part of government.Now they're going on criminal lists where they're gonna be investigated by this court. There's no grounds,there's no due process, there's no probable causes we have on the US constitutional basis for such things.But hey, Marxists do what Marxists do, communists do what communists do, we've seen that all over theworld.So the timeline, go back to the timeline. So he didn't say anything for a couple of days, then he went silent.A couple of times he went out, waved, moved through people, but no public statements, and I think that wassmart.This is not about Bolsonaro. This is what I've tried to drum home, whether it's on Tucker Carlson or onVantage show or on Emerald Robin show or whoever.That this is not about Bolsonaro. This is about the Brazilian constitution, the Brazilian transition in power,Brazilian elections.This is not a cult of personality. Bolsonaro, if the military acts is not gonna be engaged in a coup,this would be a quelling of a coup by the judicial dictatorship, with the military has a constitutional right todo, to defend against the sovereignty and against the sovereigns enemies, the nation states enemies, foreignand domestic, within and without.They have buffered the borders because Venezuela and Chile keep threatening that if Lula's not seated,they're gonna invade. These are one team, one dream communists. Shaba's in school.But then last Friday, he gave a speech, and then Sunday, the vigil. And in between the time,there've been some military edicts signed, expanding the reserves a week ago, and the site crashed the secondthey put up a site saying, if you want to be in the Brazilian reserves, and the site crashed within momentsbecause it was so overwhelming.They just passed one yesterday, or Bolsonaro and the Defense Ministry pushed through one yesterday, aboutmobilization of emergency food suppliers and expedited contracting process.Tells me something's kind of up, and people I know in the military, connected to the military have beenabsolutely quiet with me, which by the way is a good thing, I got a big mouth, I am who I am. I'm ajournalist. If I know something, I'm probably gonna run it out.So it's good they're silent with me on this. If they're gonna bring something to bear in this process, then theyshould be doing it by the book, by their way, and not leaking it to me or anybody in the Western or domesticmedia.That being said, the military has moved.There are videos all over. Yesterday morning at 4.30 a.m., what was described as, well, you know, drills orpractice or, you know, routine practicing, whatever they call it, right by the Venezuelan border columns,and columns of soldiers, you know, because Venezuela is a risk point, as is Peru, as is Colombia, as is Chile.They're all led by the same millier South Paliform Marxists. And we'll go into South Paliform in a moment.So the military's moving, there've been firefights in the favelas with what's rumoured to be Venezuelanparamilitary operators that moved through these sort of drug trafficking networks.Cause if you recall, you know, Venezuela's laden with that just as Columbia was with FARC.And there's another FARC like Narco trafficking paramilitary guerrilla group that Petro, the new head ofColumbia was a long time member of. So the South Palo form where all these people were incubated, peoplehave to recall It was founded in 1990 by two people, Lula and Fidel Castro. Tells you a lot, tells you a lot.1990 because in 89 to 91, The Soviet Union was falling.Soviet Union was the big funder of Cuba and all the Latin American, Marxist guerilla movements to try andcreate an Orwellian style,continental nation state construct, In Orwell were three major nation states, Eurasia, Oceania and whateverthe other one was,and so this always been the vision for the latin american marxist.Simon Bolivar . He's he is to you know,whoever politically who they want him to be the conservatives hold up the Bolivarians,Bolivarianism as the Marxists do but Marxist Bolivarianism suggests we have to break down all the bordersof Latin America of South America and just make one continental super state led.Of course by Marxist is right out of Orwell So Palo forum was formed when Soviet Union money stoppedcoming in, Cuba needed you know, how do we, you know operate this build this out Marxist workers of theworld unite, so Lula and Fidel got together and all sorts of other criminals from across that continent andthey incubated such wonderful political leaders and talent as Hugo Chavez Ava Morales RC, the Mora,Bolivia. Uh, Fuji Mari had some connections certainly Castillo who just tried to run this coup last week anddissolving congress, dissolving legislature, South California, the Kirchners, I mean Fernandez, I mean it's awho's who of the war, Ortega, I mean if there's a Marxist in Latin America who was incubated by SouthCalif and the head of the South California in Brazil, a woman named Monica Valente, she's a part, they evenuse words like party secretary, it's like they, when people tell you who they are, believe them, party secretary,she's head of Lula's transition now, and she said early on, right after October 30th. We need to protect Brazil'sdemocracy like we have to protect Maduro's hard-fought Venezuelan democracy.And they really believe it. They really believe that Venezuela is the kind of democracy they'd like to makeBrazil.So the Brazilian people aren't stupid. Modern history, pre-modern history, they know Latin American history,communism, and all across Latin America.What's happened in Venezuela? What just happened in Chile with Boerich and other young Marxistrevolutionaries from the South Hallow Forum and Petro in Colombia?They know it. They haven't lost the plot. They get it. And we will never be communist is one of theirrefrains. Give us paper ballots is another one.Give us auditable ballots. And that's a whole great, you know, sock we can get into.Bolsonaro pushed it as a congressman and got a paper balloting bill, a backup paper ballot against themachines.So you have the machines, but you also have a paper ballot printout.That thing gets locked for audit purposes. And so when I was in Brazil last September, there was tons ofchance in the freedom Independence Day March, give us paper ballots, give us audible ballots.Bolsonaro as a congressman, and I think it was 2016, maybe it was a little over 15, got a bill passed, whichby the way, getting bills passed in Brazilian legislature, very, very tough.I mean, there's essentially, I put it on a spectrum of five different, it's like parliamentary politics, there'sdozens of parties, but there's really five cohorts.You've got far right, centre right, centre, centre left and far left. So figure 20% give or take.By the way, going forward in this next session, far right and centre right are dominant because Bolsonarodown ballot pulled everybody over the line, governors, senators, lower house legislators.It was like unheard of level of galvanized unity and performance for the right in Brazil.So the fact that he lost to Lula, we all know it's bullshit. We all, there's no way. None of these politicianseven exist except for his endorsement.And they won overwhelmingly in places that were left to stronghold for 50 years. That they're now gonna beled on the provincial level and the federal level state-wide by Bolsonaro people, whether they're far right orcentre right.But they're all together one thing, anti-communist, anti-socialist, anti-South Paulo Forum, anti-China, anti-globalist. They believe in Brazilian sovereignty and they believe in God, which does bring them together.But so, so Bolsonaro gets this bill passed, Dilma Rousseff is president, so I guess it was pre-16. She vetoes it.Back to legislature and the Congress overrode her veto with a super super majority. Never happens. So thenwhat happens, Supreme Court comes out, by the way, her veto was predicated on something I find hilarious.It's like truth is stranger than fiction with these idiots.She vetoed it because it would cost too much to put a printer, a hundred dollar printer next to their $20,000voting machine. So she said, Oh, no, fiscally it would be irresponsible.Have you ever noticed socialists or communists to cite fiscal policy as to why they shouldn't Spend money,spend government money?Of course not, it's a fig leaf, it's a canard, it's ridiculous. So Supreme Court takes this congressionallyoverrode veto legislation and they nix it on constitutional grounds, but on bullshit.They said it would open up privacy concerns. Now at the same time, by the way,I've exposed with Argentinian forensic analyst, Fernando Ceramito, who's hiding in Argentina because theywanna really go at him, because he's exposed huge amounts of fraud,from day three after the election, we expose that Oracle has a undisclosed contract to suck up everybody'sprivate data.So all the voting data, all the personal data, the Ministry of Information is being run out of the electoral courtoverseen by Marais.So more corruption, more communists, stasi tactics, they've got the Praetorian Guard and the federal policeforce who are arresting indigenous peoples and journalists and harassing Miller, Jason Miller and myselfwhen we were in Brazil, detaining us, surveilling us, which the mainstream press had the day before weleft that broke all the news wires there that we were being surveilled from the moment we landed, which Itold them, I mean, like I've dealt with stuff Poland and Central Europe, which has been time in Ukraine, Ivespent time all over the place. So I said, we're probably being surveilled. He goes, Whatever. I said, then whenthat news story broke, he goes, he was like, Oh, well, you're right. And I said, well, probably gonna bedetained at the airport tomorrow. And he goes, Oh, shit, I go, no, it's gonna be good. Be great. Made a biginternational incident. I credit Mariah for getting me off the side-lines. I wouldn't, I wouldn't have been doingjack shit on Brazil.I wouldn't have been doing, you know, deep dives into the forum and the who appointed the judges and whotheir friends with and what laws they're breaking and who they put in prison unjustly and under house arrest.I wouldn't have any edge on Brazilian politics and society if it wasn't for Marais detaining us and me gettingintrigued.I don't like getting detained illegally. So I like to punch back. So here we are. So now I've been doing 10 to20 hours of press today.So as a lot of Brazilians say, they want to if the military comes in and they they circumvent Lula and thecompletion of this coup that's been run out of the,judicial dictatorship, then there's I think there'll be a push to give me honour citizenship, which I'd be allabout. I love Brazil. I love the Brazilian people. Brazilian women are the most beautiful women in the world. The food is like the best food in the world. The weather,the cities, just the whole, the people are just so awesome. They're so thoughtful.They're so intelligent. They're so motivated to protect their society. They understand the difference betweenrule of man and rule of God, higher natural law, and even the truckers, the truckers blockaded, these wasn'tlike Canadian trucker blockades, and all due respect to the Canadians, they do a great job on that.But they got busted up pretty quickly and it wasn't a huge amount of population saying we're going to we'rewilling to stay here forever how long it takes.The Brazilians are willing to blockade the ports and the roads and the major arteries. Brazil's one,sixth of the world's food supply. They're willing to blockade it forever if need be. They're willing to starve toprotect their sovereignty because they know that if they lose it, if they lose their their constitutionallyprotected natural rights of natural law and their constitutional rights that that have been.That they work toward and building a robust constitutional republic if they lose that, it's gulags. I think themilitary knows that too.I think the military, but Lula even said last week, he even publicly stated who he's going to replace all thehigh command military generals with, his communist cronies.So if they're not motivated to act, then you know what, to be honest, they deserve to go to the gulag. Theydeserve to have their hands up.
(HoO)Tell me more about the military, and I love Brazil as much as you and I've only been once, but a beautifulcountry.But tell me about the military, where do they fit in? Where is the clash?Where is their allegiance? I mean, you've talked about the legal side, about the Supreme Court and the battleslegally, which reminds me of the same situation in the US in the 2020 elections.But over the military, which is again quite different, and I guess from anyone in the West, you don't think themilitary has been separate from the government or separate from the judicial is just all in one.But I guess Latin America is quite different. So where did the military fit into this? Cause I read a number ofreports, the military being on the sidelines, what does that mean? And who are they accountable to?
(MT)The military had, you know, a 65 page report about the, the, the elections and saying, you know, we can'tprove fraud yet because you won't give us the machine source code of tabulation data, but it certainly doesn'tlook good.And the fact that you're blocking us out, the military and you know, Latin America's got this history ofcommunism, then reaction back. And Pinochet was an anti-communist reactionary.He threw the communists from helicopters, which I would never condone until watching, until getting toknow Brazil.To be honest, Marais and these judges who have so subverted rule of law and arrested their political enemies,just as bad, just on a level of the Soviet Union, of Stalin,of Khrushchev, of Brezhnev, of Lenin, of Jurginsky.I mean, they are ends justify the means leftist and the corrupt as shit. I mean, the Politburo will live well. Youknow, Animal Farm, you know, the Napoleon and Snowball will live high on the hog.And these people are totally corrupt. Their friends are going to feed and everybody else, they'll rob thewealth of the country, sell to China, give it to help buffer Cuba.You remember when Lula was there, last time he was giving Petrobras, Petrobras was a big center of thebiggest company in the country. the state oil giant and they were helping buffer and support Cuba andVenezuela and selling to China.So this is a repeat. I think the military knows, given the history, there's a lot of generals who actually havenot remained silent.They're not running their mouth off the way I do, the way Miller does, or the way our friends who areanalysts, journalists, and political activists do, they're military guys.And by the way, Bolsonaro was a career military guy before entering politics. But they have made publicstatements.One of them, and a lot of these military guys have also gone into politics when they retire, very senior guys.So there's a very strong connection ideologically and politically. But there are some scumbag military guysas well.There were four guys that Paolo Figurito, an exiled journalist here in Florida who's left Brazil because hecan't go back for the same reasons that Alonso Santos is exiled in Virginia. That's who they put the red noticefor, revoked his passport.By the way, they've also revoked issuance of new passports because I think they don't want anyone to escapethe impending communism because they want to go after everyone. I mean, this is a court that was airingprivate businessmen's WhatsApp messages when they were bashing the court and saying we defendBolsonaro.So they publicized it and then they tried to arrest them. Business guys, just normal guys, not breaking anylaws, just saying the court's really running amok. Okay, we're gonna subpoena the stuff because they hearabout it and they leak it and then they air it all.I mean, really dirty pool, Soviet style tactics, Stasi style tactics. But Paulo Figueredo named three or fourgenerals who were trying to push back on any military guys,who were saying we should invoke Article 142, we need to take action, saying, no, no, we'll be fine underLula.Trust us.Palo named them publicly and effectively took them off the field. And there have been rumors in the lastcouple of days that they'll be fired in the next few days by the Defense Ministry in Bolsonaro. Hopefully theywill.Also important to note that Bolsonaro has still elevated other generalsThere have been ceremonies that have gotten publicized, putting the new rank on the chest of a couple ofnaval guys, a couple of generals. So there is movement, but there are a few very senior generals.And by the way, Brazil is the most social media engaged country in the world.So when you lose your social media voice, whether you're a politician or whoever you are, it's a big dealthere.And some of the politicians who have been leading the charge, calling out the court, who have lost it, thegenerals have said, that is unconstitutional.One general who was a running mate for Bolsonaro, Hamilton Mourao, a political guy now, very wellrespected.And again, because Brazil has so much social media engagement, these generals have like 2 millionfollowers.They have as many followers as the party leaders, the legislature leaders in the Senate and the Chamber ofDeputies, the lower house of the legislature. So they have gravitas when they say something. HamiltonMourao was the first one to come out.This was a few weeks ago. This was right after the second round. And he said, he cited on the anniversary,the 87th anniversary of a communist insurgency, the first one in Brazil in 1935 that came from within themilitary.He said, we put that one down and we are on guard. We are ever vigilant. Another one said, echoed thosestatements a few days later.Another general said, load up on food, gas and cash, which tells you a little bit of something. Just said publicannouncement, public service announcement, load up on food, fuel and cash.I mean, that kind of tells you something. I think something's coming. I think they were waiting.I was incorrect in my initial assessment about the certification, which is very equivalent to the January 6th inthe US with a certified president.And that's when they had Antifa come down from the hills and set buses on fire. And Reuters said, Bolsonarosupporters are setting buses on fire.Meanwhile, there's video of some of the guys who had, they turned out the next day that some of these guysthey found and they were paid 200 Riyals to do it. They were vagabonds.They were homeless drifter, grifter types. And then there were some guys yelling. ......Which means out-Bolsonaro. So, I mean, you know, but Reuters, without uncritically, unanalytic ally, justruns out what Globo says.Globo's even said, I mean, to give you an example, how corrupted this media is. They're all in the tank withthe court. The court says we now need to arrest the First Lady because she was beating the protesters, aidingand abetting the illegal protests, which, by the way, are not illegal.I mean, it's a real mess. I mean, you see, and it's been so fluid. Gateway Pundit's been great on writing thestuff.It says, plug, Richard Abelson there has been covering like crazy. We talk every day. We compare notes onour sources. And I've been doing a lot of this stuff, the talking, the live action, Tucker, Bannon, you,Emerald, Gaffney on,Senator CSP, just tons of this stuff, live streams on GETTR. So, you know, very, very fluid. Another,point I do want to make just to show you how big the fix was in. In November, all eight of the Dilma andLula and Temer appointed justices, went to New York for a meeting at the Harvard Club.They convened a conference with the incoming Lula cabinet ministers. By the way, he's supposed to beseparate powers.Judges supposed to judge the law and not party with their communist cronies. After they certified him, Lulathe other day, Marius and a bunch of them went and partied with a well-known, together, Lula and them.With a well-known communist lawyer, like a major communist figure down there.So, but in November in New York at the Harvard club, they convened this conference with the incomingLula cabinet ministers and these eight communist Marxist, Sao Paulo forum, Lula, Dilma, Temer appointedjudges.They booked the room well before the second round of the election months ago.They knew, they knew. And for the, you would even say that if you're in Brazil, you lose your social media.Are you even getting potentially arrested as they're doing now? So the certification, my mistake on timingwas, I thought that the certification was less of a formality and more of a big deal.And what I've learned since is it's not the only big deal is does Lula walk up the ramp as they say, That's thesort of terminology.Walk up the ramp and the equivalent of a swearing in for the president where he puts his hand on the Bible inthe US, walk up the ramp and accept the sash and become anointed head of state. And that's right after NewYear's Day.So that'll be January 2nd or January 3rd.I think January 2nd, Monday, January 2nd. By the way, the certification was supposed to be this comingMonday, the 19th, but the electoral court moved it up to the 12th. No constitutional allowance for that exists.They just did it. Again, they are very Bismarckian.Politics to the art of the possible. Just do it, and hey, see what happens, come at me bro." So they did thecertification on Monday, and after the certification Marais gave a public statement saying, mission assigned,mission accomplished.I mean, it's like, they don't even hide what they're doing, and that if you criticise them and point out thegranular fallacy of it all, then you get arrested. I mean, it's right out of Sovietism. It's pretty nuts.
(HoO)Where does the pressure come? Because there isn't any pressure from surrounding countries in LatinAmerica.Democracy works to varying degrees in different countries.
(MT)It's pressure from Venezuela, Colombia under Petro, Chile under Boric, Peru, that they better seat Lula orthey're going to invade.Another reason you're seeing military moving around the countries from the Chocos and securing theborders. But they have no allies, which is insane. I mean a couple of people, Ted Cruz gave a moderatelysympathetic statement, but none of the politicians in the West and the US and Europe, nobody even knowswhat's going on.Swedish press, Polish press, Hungarian press, Slovakian press, but right-wing press, alternative press, theway you and I always are. So this thing doesn't have a critical mass like the BBC or, you know, Rye in Italyor Odyssey France press or, but, you know, TVP has been good.You know, Polish television has been good.I'm a contributor there, so, because I'm a dual citizen. But they don't have any allies.I'm guessing the US politicians who are aware of this, I've talked to many of them, and just said, you know,what's going on here?You should know what's going on here, guys. I mean, Marco Rubio runs Latin American policy in thiscountry, and he's like, the guy.Nothing, nothing. Now, if Bolsonaro does see Article 142 invoked, in theory, he has to sign a letterauthorizing the defense ministry to activate the military and invoke this constitutional article.Some rumors say that it's been signed already.I would argue that the military should do this unilaterally and ignore the executive under the guise that he's alame duck and he's essentially out of power.I know he's still in power. The problem is that the second something does happen that's kinetic and they takeaction, they raid the Supreme Court and the electoral court, they go out and they take the machines by force.By the way, we have a video of a Sunday in Sao Paulo a week after the second round, a Sunday afternoon,four o'clock, all the machines, not all, but a cache of machines, voter machines from this.And by the way, some of the work done on this machine shows that certain modern series are programmedby default to annul votes and to be programmed, have communication device and all the things that the lawspassed on the running of the election it flies in the face of.But this one cache in Sao Paulo of machines was being moved in boxes onto the back of a truck, anunmarked truck.And it looked to be unconfirmed, but looked to be a trucking logistics company because we got theweaponized autists everywhere, that it was a truck belonging to a company that is run and owned by a PTLula party legislator.So it tells you a lot. The law is very clear, by the way. The machines can't be touched for 60 days.They can't be disassembled, can't be touched for 60 days. So a week after they're being moved. So there's alot of different things.But I think that if the military does take action, which I believe they will, I think they will, even rumors thatBolsonaro has resigned as president in a private military sort of convocation and given the powers of theexecutive branch to the military as a caretaker.I don't believe that's true, but it is floating around.So I'm throwing that out there just because it's one of the things I've heard from certain sources.I think that will get publicized pretty quickly if that were the case. But whenever anything does occur,something does occur, I believe that what you're going to see is the revolution now will be televised by theentire global media complex and it,will go, Bolsonaro executes military coup against democratic elections that elected Lula.Nowhere in those articles will it say that Lula was let out of prison by his appointees for looting the countryfor 10 years. Nowhere will that be said.I read something in Brookings, they're fucking embarrassment, by an analyst saying that Lula was the mostpopular president ever.His socialist policy, Bolsa Familia, elevated so many people out of poverty and he will win in a landslidebecause he's so popular and never even mentions he was convicted for anything.And nobody in the country, I mean, you go to stadiums, people are watching the World Cup in stadiums,they're watching it remotely, and they were chanting, or car races, they were chanting, Lula's a convictedthief, Lula is convicted thief. They call him Squid. His nickname across the country is Squid.And it ain't for anything good. So I mean, we're gonna see the global media, you know, take action and runan info war.And then what's gonna happen?I told this to Bannon, I'll tell it to your audience. We need to get real vocal. That's why I'm doing so many ofthese things because I want people to have real fact pattern.You know me and I think people can hear me. I'm nothing if not comprehensive. I will throw out facts all daylong and put them into context so that we can fight back because the leftist media, the mainstream media, theglobal media, they ain't gonna talk facts.They're gonna say these poor maligned Supreme Court justices that Bolsonaro's trying to go over, nevermention they're imprisoning journalists, they're deplatforming everybody, that their ties to South Valle forum.They'll never mention the South Valle forum and how it was started by Fidel Castro and Lula in 1990.Lula's criminal history, Lula being close to all the drug gangs, wears a CPX hat as I said.I mean his base is criminals, criminals and media. So that's a redundancy I guess.
(HoO)Just to finish off, where does this leave democracy in many parts if the system is an electronic system thatcan be controlled by those on the left and the left also have abig hand in the judicial system as we basically saw in the States, even when it went to the Supreme Court,actually they wouldn't call it out.It's very different than where we are. I mean, in Britain, it's just the stupidity of our electorate, basically putto say, it's a paper ballot.So yeah, it's different.
(MT)But you also have some really shitty issues going on there where rule of law is also under attack and it's notgetting publicized. When constabularies can go to the homes of somebody for tweeting something and arrestthem as we've now seen several dozen times in the provinces and these are not you know lefty strongholdsthen you know this is fraying you know the Orwellian dystopic vision is playing out thanks to big techthanks to the consolidated powers of information flow that government has control or access to so i mean itis worrisome Brazil is the bulwark I say you watch Bannon and i sit on Bannon and every single time, Brazilfalls the far so takes over South America, a very wealthy continent, Brazil itself, you know, one sixth of theworld's food supply, but also iron ore, oil, manganese, bauxite, tin, cobalt, copper, gold, I mean,very wealthy. The most, and Amazon, stuff in the Amazon, we don't even know the drugs and therapeuticsthat we're going to make from species of plants and bugs and shit that we don't even, we've never evendiscovered yet. And that's part of the play. It's the same thing that what's her face, Maloney was saying aboutFrance and the French colonies in Africa. You know that, okay, you're so egalitarian as you rape, you're stillraping the colonies of Africa, even if they're quote unquote independent, you're still treating them likeprotectorates. Well, if Brazil falls, then all of Latin America is gone. We saw Colombia and Chile, the twofurthest generally right nation states in Latin America, at least in South America, because Guatemala is prettydecent and Honduras give or take sometimes. But you know scaled up societies that have fallen out to theforeign so Paulo in the left. Brazil falls, China owns all of South America and that's obviously athreat to the Pax American in the west and the US. I mean AMLO, López Obrador in Mexico also a SaoPaulo foreign guy. So I mean it's it ain't good and there's a reason. The useful idiots of our side,the lefties on our side who believe, oh yeah, little socialism and big government's fine and they're not evenaverse to communism, they're the proverbial, you know, what Lenin said, they're the capitalists who will sellus the rope with which they'll hang them.Biden, the corrupt comatose vegetable that he is, said, and obviously he didn't say it, he probably fell asleepat four o'clock after his ice cream cone or his jello, but he had said right after, like moments after thetabulation was done.Congratulations Lula for the fair free and credible elections.How the fuck would you know that one minute after the tabulation? They don't have, IRI, the InternationalRepublican Institute, whose job it is to look at election fraud around the world, silent.Organization of American states, silent. UN, silent. EU, silent.State departments, silent. NSA, silent. I mean it's like, it's a giant global fix because they hate Bolsonaro likethey hate Trump. Meanwhile more popular maybe than any leader anywhere in the world.He's probably the most popular, at least in a country of more than 10 million people. We're talking 220million people.
(HoO)Yeah, absolutely, Matthew, thank you so much for your time. Our viewers and listeners can follow you at@MatthewTyrmand.Make sure and follow Matthew on GETTR or Twitter for keep your finger on the pulse and also make sureand watch Gateway Pundit that are bringing daily articles, keeping you posted on what is happening.So we'll certainly watch this closely.
(MT)And Bannon's War Room, I'm doing Bannon sometimes multiple times a day. He's kind of tipped the spearon this. Because Bannon and I were talking about Brazil for the last two to three years. We saw what wasgoing to happen.I wrote about this a year ago and talked about it. And then, then obviously everything played out exactly as Iwrote about, you know, and published in details in August, September.And so War Room, Emerald Robinson, I'm doing a few times a week and sort of all over the place, posting asmuch as I can on social media as I get information or as I do these segments and pods.I throw them up there as quick as I can so that people are informed and have information. And again,Brazilian people, the best people in the world.We need to stand with our Brazilian brothers and sisters in arms and cousins, because if they do not fail thiscoup, it will be Venezuela within a year.The gulags will start in a few months.Hell, he's not even president yet. They're already gulagging people for arrest today. The indigenous leader onMonday, they're already doing it. They've already censored. Now they're already starting Gulag.So, I mean, we've got to fight this.
(HoO)Yeah, completely, completely. Matthew, thank you so much.



Monday Dec 12, 2022
Mary Grace - Information Warfare: Finding the Path to Truth
Monday Dec 12, 2022
Monday Dec 12, 2022
This episode we welcome Mary Grace to discuss Information Warfare and how she is exposing the truth while also providing hope and motivation.It is a battle that every influencer, journalist and public figure faces and as the founder of a media network and a popular commentator, Mary joins us to share the issues that she is most passionate about and how she is striving to put out news which is correct, accurate and will counter the narrative from the legacy media. Every day we are all confronted with a barrage of information and each of us must decide what is right or wrong and Mary's veracity is beyond question, her desire as a journalist and public figure is to help her audience find the path to truth.Mary Grace is the owner and founder of the Mary Grace Media Network and the host of GraceTime TV. An independent journalist and commentator, a dynamic public speaker, accomplished vocalist , songwriter, and entrepreneur, Mary Grace’s broad experiences here and around the globe influence her perspective on politics, culture, faith, and world events.Mary Grace has the unique ability to bridge multiple spheres of expertise and influence to cover a wide range of interview topics with thoughtful analysis and engagement. An educator at heart, her approachable style makes even the most complex issues and ideas accessible to her devoted audience. She informs and inspires people to take action, empowered by evidence-based facts.She posts live and pre-recorded content several times each week and has conducted impactful interviews with prominent figures and experts including Jack Maxey, Sam Faddis, Michael Yon, Clay Clark and Liz Yore. Her 2022 interviews with Maxey concerning the Hunter Biden laptop swiftly went viral, capturing the attention of millions of viewers. Whether in studio or on location providing boots-on-the-ground reporting at political and cultural events, Mary Grace is dedicated to championing our country’s fight for independence and getting to the truth behind the headlines.Mary Grace earned her Masters Degree of Education in Early Childhood and Reading Specialization at James Madison University and a Bachelor of Arts in English at University of Virginia. She spent 12 years in education as a reading specialist at schools in the United States and internationally. She has lived, worked and travelled in more than 20 countries throughout Europe, Africa, Asia and North and Central America. This experience allows her to open worlds many only dream of seeing.As an 11th generation Virginian with a proud heritage of defending America’s freedoms, Mary Grace's family members have served in every war from the American Revolution through World War II.Follow and support Mary Grace.....WEBSITE: https://marygracemedia.com/FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/MaryGraceMediaUSA/ GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/marygraceTRUTH: https://truthsocial.com/@MaryGraceTWITTER: https://twitter.com/RealMaryGrace1?s=20&t=bBail4COpxkbB5XjkG3XMgCLOUTHUB: https://www.clouthub.com/marygracemediaoldRUMBLE: https://rumble.com/user/marygracemediaInterview broadcast live 12.12.22
*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.
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Saturday Dec 10, 2022
The Week According To . . . Dr Niall McCrae
Saturday Dec 10, 2022
Saturday Dec 10, 2022
The irrepressible Dr Niall McCrae is back in the hot seat, shooting from the lip while looking at some of the stories, articles and headlines that have caught our eye or made our blood boil in this week's news.Topics in the crosshair this episode..... - The pandemic that never was. - Rod Stewart’s 11-year-old son rushed to hospital following suspected heart. - Baby blood donor vaccine battle: Judge rules in favour of child placed under court’s guardianship for surgery. - Keep Clapping? NHS shut down more services during Covid than almost every European country. - Newly released government documents reveal mask mandate in schools was based on politics and not evidence. - Londoners call for 'another lockdown' as streets rammed with Christmas shoppers. - Shameless hypocrisy of the West over China lockdown protests. - Ukrainian comedian is named Time magazine's 2022 person of the year. - Women are getting angrier. Is anyone surprised? Niall McCrae is an officer for ‘Covid coercion in the workplace’ for the Workers of England trade union, the only union standing up for workers' rights and freedoms in the UK during these troubled times. From 2010 to 2021 he was a senior lecturer in mental health at King’s College London, and he continues to write on mental health matters. He was also a senior researcher for David Kurten and Peter Whittle on the London Assembly. His publications include several books including ‘Moralitis: a Cultural Virus’ (with Robert Oulds), ‘The Moon and Madness’, ‘Echoes from the Corridors’ (with Peter Nolan) and ‘The Year of the Bat’ (with MLR Smith). He is a regular contributor to Unity News Network, Gateway Pundit, Lockdown Sceptics, The Salisbury Review and The Light. Follow Niall on Gab @Dr_Niall_McCrae https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/ Originally broadcast as a live video news review 10.12.22 Audio Podcast version available at https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/ and all major podcast directories. To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestream platforms https://heartsofoak.org/connect/ Please like, subscribe and share! Links to stories discussed...... The pandemic that never was https://davidicke.com/2022/12/09/covid-19-the-pandemic-that-never-was-niall-mccrae Rod Stewart Son https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/12/british-rock-pop-singer-rod-stewart-reveals-11-year-old-son-rushed-hospital-following-suspected-heart-attack Baby blood donor vaccine battle https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/baby-blood-donor-vaccine-battle-judge-to-deliver-high-courts-ruling-this-evening/WG7T6AWM4BHU5PHZL37X2ZI374 NHS https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/12/05/nhs-shut-services-covid-almost-every-european-country Mask Mandate in Schools https://dailysceptic.org/2022/12/06/mask-mandate-in-schools-based-on-politics-not-evidence-newly-released-government-documents-reveal Londoners call for lockdown https://www.mylondon.news/whats-on/whats-on-news/londoners-call-another-lockdown-oxford-25673241 Hypocrisy of the West https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/brazen-shameless-hypocrisy-of-the-west-over-china-lockdown-protests/ Time Magazine https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-63890775 Women Are Getting Angrier https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/women-are-getting-angrier_uk_63907f20e4b0214ec984a4fb

