Hearts of Oak Podcast

Robert W Malone MD - What is Woke? An Intolerant and Moralising Ideology

Show Notes and Transcript
Robert Malone's Substack has become essential reading for many of us. Every day nuggets of wisdom and insight, information and humour drop into inboxes all over the world. One of the recent emails caught our eye. What is Woke? It's a word that we have come familiar with but many of us would struggle to define it. It is an intolerant ideology that is sowing seeds of confusion and division. Robert returns once again to Hearts of Oak to discuss what sparked the article and we have a close look at 15 examples of wokeness that he has referenced before we touch on another of his Substacks about 'Adulteration', which is a topic that we hope to come back to in more detail soon. 
Robert W Malone MD, MS Inventor of mRNA & DNA vaccines, RNA as a drug. Scientist, physician, writer, podcaster, commentator and advocate. Believer in our fundamental freedom of free speech.
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Interview recorded 26.10.23
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Robert W. Malone, MD. It is wonderful to have you back.Thanks so much for joining us today, Robert.
(Robert Malone MD)
Peter, thanks for your friendship. It's been a pleasure to host you on the farm a couple of times and all of our many podcasts.I don't know how many we're up to right now, but I always enjoy talking to you and through your to your audience. So thanks for having me on again.
No, thank you. And if what you're doing doesn't work out, if everyone deserts you on Substack, then I think you do have another future, which is steaks.I think that was the best steak I've had outside Texas. So I say, open up a steak restaurant, Robert.
Yeah, that might be my future if the powers that be have their way with me.
If you say too much, because that's just safer.But just for the viewers, @rwmallonemd on Twitter, on GETTR, anywhere else, And of course, Substack, rwmalonemd.substack.com.You just type in Substack, Robert Malone will come up. All the links are in the description.And that is also a way to support what Robert does in the many places he travels, speaks, interviews, and all of that.That is a one way of supporting him. or getting his book, which I had beside me, Lies My Government Told Me.There it is, Lies My Government Told Me. Make sure if you haven't got a copy of that, get a copy, it's a great Christmas present. 
About to come out in Norwegian for all of your Norwegian listeners and in Dutch.I think we're gonna have the book launch in Norway in early December and the book launch in the Netherlands sometime in February.So stay tuned for that. And then we have another book that is just nearing completion on Cy-War and Sovereignty, which is the big propaganda, you know, there in the UK, you're certainly familiar with nudge technology and the 77th Brigade and MI6 and all of their various nefarious activities through the COVID crisis.
Oh, yeah. I look forward to that coming out. The Norwegian languages, maybe I'll give it a miss.So I'll wait for the new book. 
We've got a great cover.I look forward to it. Robert, I love your Substack.There may be four different sub-stacks that I follow because you can have an avalanche of information and yours is one of those. And my favorite thing is you don't know what you're going to get.Each day is different.It could be on the farm, it could be travel, it could be latest scientific research coming out, it could be government agencies and how they work.And I love that huge mix and that wide array. And one of the recent ones just days ago was, what is woke and intolerant and moralizing ideology?And you had a little cartoon at the beginning and at the end, the definition was stuff I don't like, which I actually thought was a good definition.But it's a term that I think we now use frequently and we kind of know how to describe things as woke, but we're not very sure what exactly that is.If we see something, oh, that's woke, why?
The definition of pornography, I can't define it but I know it when I see it.Same with woke. And yeah, so thanks. This was almost kind of a throwaway Substack, that Jill put together on the fly.Basically, we tend to wake up in the morning or as we're going to sleep the night before.This is our lives. Hey, welcome to our lives.We lay in bed and talk between the two of us. Well, when are we gonna write tomorrow? I don't know.Good heavens. And so, in this case, what transpired was we, when we like to turn off our brains, we turn to the, you know, streaming.We never watch television per se, but we stream.And they tend to fall into two categories, basically, science fiction and documentaries about history or travel.That's kind of our lives. I know it's pretty exciting.And so we were watching this new Netflix series called Bodies.And it proceeds because it's a kind of a multi-timeline thing that is all wrapped around the UK and London is the setting for the series.And I don't want to go into the plot line, but basically, in episode three, suddenly we have the insertion of this gratuitous, let's say, gently man love, with a fairly explicit scenery associated with it.And it was absolutely gratuitous, not necessary for the plot line.It was clearly another woke agenda insertion, as we have come to expect from Netflix routinely.And this one was so in your face that we just, both of us, looked at each other and flipped off the TV.Okay, enough of that. Time to go to bed.And then Jill, in the morning, woke up and she said, I've got to find some way to be able to pre-screen, these various streaming broadcasts for their woke content. I wonder if there's anything out there on the internet.And so she started searching, and she found this delicious site that is mentioned in the article.
Notwokeshows.com, which I've delved into. 
Yeah, so she finds notwokeshows.com, and she's like, hallelujah, this is a goldmine, because they have listed all these criteria that they apply to define whether or not a show is woke, and whether or not they're going to include it in their recommended broadcast that one who is, let's say, not enjoying the woke agenda can safely view.I guess this is akin to the censorship board there that the BBC sponsors for you lucky members of the United Kingdom.And so you're all so fortunate that the government looks out for you so carefully and maintains your mental health in alignment with their interests.So in any case, she finds this website and it's such a rich repository of, you know, a little bit tongue in cheek, but on point.Commentary about what constitutes woke from the perspective of some group that is seeking to delineate woke from non-woke, broadcasting and being able to to list, non-woke content, that she writes to the authors and they write back and because we've become quite sensitized to issues concerning copyright.And so they write back and they say, yes, absolutely. You're free to use this.We're so grateful and all happy, happy.And so she takes basically their content and disambiguates or redacts it or restructures it so that it's not specifically about programming, but speaking more directly about what is WOKE and from the framework of these individuals that put together this website that previously has been relatively unknown and blasted out together with the crosslink to the source material, et cetera.And that's what gives rise to this fun little throwaway essay, which was her basically, uh-oh, we've got to get something out this morning.How about if we do this? while I happen to be writing an in-depth technical piece about adulteration and the RNA vaccines, which was going to take much longer. So we wanted to get something out to our Substack subscribers so they have it with their morning coffee. And that's the genesis of this particular essay. 
And I will finish on adulteration, another word that we've come across only in the last few days. But I love this article simply because it's what people are facing, the people are, and what you described is exactly what millions and millions of people across any country face.You look at something and you're not sure where to watch it and you're not sure what the plot line will be and often it...I've watched different shows and they start off one way, being macho with a hero, like all 24 type.And then by the end, it's something completely different.
They slipped it in. They've really gotten quite clever about it in advancing this agenda of a particular way of looking at the world.And of course, the UK has been one of the world leaders in advancing nudge technology, which is what this really is, that we're encountering in broadcast media, is applied nudge.And, you know, this is another case of a slippery slope. Who's against reducing public tobacco consumption?Oh, you know, we're all for that. We don't want passive smoke.And well then, so then it's okay to use nudge to reduce that.And then, well, who's not in favour of more tolerance against ethnic minorities?Well, of course we all want that. Well, how are we gonna do it?Well, we'll take this same nudge technology and apply it like a great big hammer to that one.And so then we, I'm gonna, this is a sacred cow.So then we have the infamous Dr. Who has suddenly become a femme, et cetera.And that kind of went over like a lead balloon, as I recall.But it doesn't matter. In pursuit of the social engineering agenda, profitability and audience uptake and acceptance are totally secondary to the broader mission of advancing social equity as defined by whomever they are that established all these agendas and try to propagate it globally.Another one that I ran into recently was a CNN broadcast looking at travel and food in Italy.Who isn't interested in Italian food and travel? I mean, that's a great topic.And this is coming off of Anthony Bourdain's suicide and how successful his series was, because I think CNN is trying to pick up the ball.And so they get another actor, a well-known Italian, I'm not gonna beat him up, that tours Italy.And we're in about three episodes and suddenly we're getting propagandized about, in favour of basically Italian socialism, and the importance of accepting immigrants from North Africa and integrating them into Italian society and that these far right people, or go Giorgio Moloney, et cetera.Because anybody who is against immigration is obviously far right by definition.And Mussolini is just right there.Don't like immigration, you're one step away from full-on Mussolini fascism.And so that's how that particular series has gone.As another example is that it's become a platform for advancing these same social theories, ostensibly under the guise of a travel show focused on Italian cuisine.I mean, it pervades everything.
It does, and I know that you give 15 examples. You go through, of course, The one that stands out, which you've also known for the last three years is called COVID-19 virtue signalling.Virtue signalling is a term that links with woke.But that maybe took it to a new level of advisories, COVID advisories under videos, giving you the different side.And Andrew Bridgen speaking in the House of Commons, whenever he was talking about vaccine injuries, at the bottom, it kept bringing up all these piece of information of why, what he was saying was rubbish.But even on the COVID stuff, the mask, the double, the triple masking, or people getting a sticker to say they've had a jab, it was in your face, in public, I guess, in a way that we hadn't seen before.And the social distancing, I mean, all these things had no, even though they were cloaked in scientism.Which is, you know, we've got to be careful about using that term, Jill constantly reminds me, because it is actually formally defined as, the belief system around everything that is true and real can be directly perceived and detected.So that's the essence of scientism. And in definition, it's in opposition to, let's say mysticism at one parameter and belief in theology and religion in another parameter, or we could talk about the ancient Celtic religions of paganism, for instance, all of that being in opposition to this belief that only things that we can measure and detect are true.But the term scientism has been kind of transformed a little bit with Dr. Fauci being the poster child of scientific truth is that which is asserted by largely the government and government agents that their interpretation of scientific truth is the one and only truth and there shall be no debate.And the BBC and the Trusted News Initiative have become the guarantors and the enforcers, of that logic that the only scientific truth, quote-unquote, in this post-truth, post-modern world is that which is advanced in the approved narrative endorsed by the government.And you start off, right at the beginning, it is alphabetical, but the 15th, you talk about anti-religious bias, and I'm shocked at how we see that so prevalent, that those with a belief system, and often a belief system in Christianity, are hateful or certainly hypocritical or, I mean, the level of vitriol that is attached to someone who believes something and I guess the whole issue of belief of absolutes is completely alien to a woke agenda where anything goes and truth is subjective and that level of mocking and ridiculing is dangerous certainly in a country as in yours based on biblical foundations and Christian truths and yet now we are encouraged to attack the very foundations on which our societies were based on.Right, and this is all rife with paradox. So you point out that Christianity, and in particular, traditional Christianity, and in most particular, this new insurgent movement within the Catholic Church in opposition to the Pope called Trad-Cath, those folks are in particular demonized for the sin of wanting to receive the liturgy in Latin.You can't make this up.It's so intrinsically absurd. And the bizarre paradox is that, in parallel, the prior religious orientation that was so heavily weaponized, that being radical Islam and Islam, you know, generalized Islam suddenly is aligned, in a paradoxical way with the woke slash progressive or approved agenda, in this enormous rift that has occurred in the context of, let's say gently, the IDF Gaza conflict.And I absolutely don't want to go there because I find thatinformation landscape to be so heavily contaminated with very advanced Psy-War capabilities on both sides that once again this is absolutely a post-truth, post-modern battleground of two highly developed Psy-War capabilities going head-to-head on the world stage in which we could debate who are the victims and who are the perpetrators here, but I think truth is absolutely on the victim list.It's become completely subjective, and that's what's happened throughout all of this, is, as I keep saying, this is postmodernism, in which truth is a subjective quality that is, not intrinsic, but rather is subjective and is the product of exertion of force and capabilities in the information landscape, and is defined by those who are able to dominate that information landscape.Truth is entirely subjective and is a function of whoever is the dominant party in what I call this post-modern golden rule, those with the gold make the rules.And it's now those with the gold define truth.
It's so true. We've just had today, there was Rishi Sunak, sadly, our Prime Minister here in the UK, little in substance, little in size, little in vision, but Rishi Sunak- 
Well, now don't be staturist.
But Rishi Sunak, he was talking about a new AI Institute, which the UK is setting up, and it's going to be the world's first AI Safety Institute.And he talked about, we want to have a AI consensus on what's good and bad, just like we have a climate change census.
Right, so AI has been sold to the public as a neutral arbiter of truth, but we know from the various AI applications and algorithms that are available now.That AI and machine learning and deep learning are very much a consequence, a derivative, of the source information that is used to build those algorithms, that train them.And so by selecting the information, so for instance, it's just like Wikipedia.Wikipedia defines truth as basically the work product of corporate media, which is to say the Trusted News Initiative. So if it's endorsed by TNI, then it must be true.And that is what comes out in those. So it's not even, it's beyond scientific papers.It's whatever large corporate media puts out with their spin becomes the only allowed input vector for Wikipedia.And this is done, you know, when we now know that Wikipedia is being edited in real time algorithmically by our intelligence community, including your lovely MI6.And so it, you know, people still perceive wiki as a source of basically akin to the Encyclopaedia Britannica, but it's absolutely not.Now, I haven't dove into how badly Encyclopaedia Britannica is being manipulated.I don't know the answer to that now.But the AI-based engineshave absolutely been shown to have political biases that are, you know, apparently derived from their training source material.And so, for instance, the other day, Steve Kirsch gave an inquiry to one of them, that I was not familiar with previously and asked if anybody, that had been a anti-vaxxer had turned to being in favour of the vaccines.And he was very comforted by the fact that he was not so identified.But myself and Jessica Rose, and there was another person, were identified as having previously been anti-vaxxers.I'm the vaccine developer anti-vaxxer who invented RNA vaccine technology.That, you know, you have to, this is for, you know, park your cognitive dissonance is irrelevant.But then had now strongly endorsed the COVID vaccines, and indicated that everybody should get them. Absolute lie, absolute propaganda, none of that true that was listed, but that's what spat out in response to that question.And with Jessica Rose, it asserted that she was a former beauty queen.I've never heard her talk about that before. I got to ask her about whether or not she was once a beauty queen. And also went into the same kind of a flip-flop, which I know has not happened.So it's, those of us, and this is another part of my background that most people are unaware.For the first two years of my undergraduate, I was a computer science student and actually took top honours for that time. I just didn't wanna spend the rest of my life in a basement looking at a CRT tube.I was taught early on, garbage in, garbage out. With any program-based algorithm that abstracts from data, your source data will determine the product.You can have the most sophisticated deep learning algorithm, but if it is employing a biased data set, it will give you a biased answer.And that's absolutely what's happening, but it's being pitched to the public as if this is a godlike, neutral arbiter of truth, and it is so easily manipulated.The question is, is Rishi in the cohort of...I don't really understand the technology, but it seems awfully cool.And this tension always exists between nefarious intent and incompetence.And is he merely an incompetent or is he aware of how readily artificial intelligence algorithms can be manipulated?I don't know the answer to that.
The dangerous thing is, I think he is aware, because I think his wife's family made the money off tech industry, partially through tech, so he should be aware of it.
Exactly. He should be a sophisticated user, and then the derivative of that would be, this is not a guy that can be trusted because he's misrepresenting truth to the British public.I know that you would probably be shocked and we will probably be de-platformed and severely, maybe I better be careful because I want to fly back into London to help out Andrew on December 4th, so I don't want to get arrested when I land at Heathrow.
Well, we'll see how that happens. You may just stay in the UK for a while and that will keep you.
Government hospitality.
You started by talking about that Netflix series, the slipping in of man love, as you said, and I've been watching another BBC programme and three series in, oh, suddenly now there's the other side, woman love and that slipped in, doesn't fit with the story, doesn't add to it at all. But in your article, you talk about bad masculinity and where male behaviour is inherently toxic and negative.But then again, the fun side, because you have to sit back and with a smile and begin to mock the chaos and confusion and people trying to jump through hoops and put these together.You've got the whole infinite genders and how that works. And I was sitting watching GB News yesterday and they had someone on who I think was, I'm not sure whether male or female, a strange hybrid.They were talking about- 
What's wrong with you? It's irrelevant.
I no longer know what it means a trans woman.A trans woman, I think, okay, just go back to basics. How did the person start?That's where I need to start with.But this confusion, if male psychic or identification is toxic, then what happens if a woman then decides she's a man, is that then still toxic or is that now acceptable? And this chaos and confusion.
Yes. Oh, like I said, the cognitive dissonance associated with this, which has no well-structured underlying logic, is profound.And so you have, like with any cognitive dissonance, you have to just park that, don't confront it, because it will drive you mad. It's, cognitive dissonance is one of the major sources of psychological pain, and, but only if you confront it. And so for your mental health, you should, Peter, you should really need to stop thinking about things like that. And, go back and and reread 1984, but consider it to be a guidance document rather than a warning document, and it will all be fine.Along those lines, I strongly, in terms of content to consider in streaming, often overlooked is this lovely little sci-fi piece with Uma Thurman, as I recall, called Gattaca.And I strongly recommend, GATTAGA is actually intended to be a DNA sequence in this particular sci-fi piece, which is very well-produced, way ahead of its time, and absolutely predicts the almost as prescient as 1984 was, absolutely predicts this new reality, postmodern reality, that we're walking into, where your genetics define, who you are and what you're allowed to be on behalf of government industry and everything else.So that absolutely should be on everybody's watch list if you haven't already seen Gattaca.But this logic that you're talking about, toxic masculinity of course, is what Jordan Peterson, has been so reviled for speaking against. And of course we all know that Jordan Peterson is now, subject to re-education by edict of his local health authority, I think in Toronto, as I recall.And they are also subjecting other physicians to what re-education processes that have had, you know, sinned by prescribing ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine for early treatment and written statements recommending that individuals should not, they should not necessarily be required to take the mRNA vaccine products or other genetic vaccine products, which the government so heavily advocates.And in those re-education processes, which the individuals are required to pay for, by the way, the state doesn't pay for that re-education. it's like three to 5,000 bucks.And at the end of which you have to write a letter demonstrating that you have successfully incorporated the teaching of the re-education process and that you are sufficiently contrite for your past sins.And if you do not show sufficient contrition in this letter, I mean, this is full on Soviet, right?If you don't show sufficient contrition, Then you will have to pay for another round of re-education ad nauseum until the overseers believe, they become convinced, that you have provided the necessary written, signed documentation that demonstrates that you are requesting humbly forgiveness for your sins, and that you have indicated clearly in this public document that you will not sin again.And so anybody that asserts that this is not actually a false religion isn't paying attention, because that's what we have, this, whatever you want to call it, wokeism or whatever, this new censorship, industrial complex, propaganda infrastructure that so much of it traces back to UK social science, I'm sorry to say, is now enforcing itself on the population using the classic totalitarian methodology.And I'm reminded, someone pointed out to me the other day when I was at Shannon Joy's event in Rochester, that Mattias Desmet, when he speaks of totalitarianism, he's not, a key differentiator between authoritarianism and totalitarianism is that authoritarianism under a dictatorship or other structure is a minority imposing its will on the population.Totalitarianism, it is the totality of society that is acting in this way. It is a social consensus, in this case a manufactured one, but it is a social consensus that this is the way we shall be. And one of the key factors in when totalitarianism emerges in a society and basically integrates itself into the entire systemis that you can turn over the leadership, ergo Rishi and the prior prime minister that you guys, that brief stint that you all experienced.
Forty-five days.
You can replace the leadership, and it will not change the process until the entire population wakes up from what's happening.Because there will be new leaders emerge organically from the society to fill that role of dear leader.Because this is absolutely a function of a deep psychological process that is consumed the society.So we can all in our little bubble of resistance cell, Is it 20% of people?Is it 5%? We can go back and forth.We can all laugh at the sheep and what's going on and point out their logical inconsistencies.It's irrelevant until such point as people literally wake up and recognize that this is, at a minimum, not meeting their needs.You know, this is the classic question, are you better off than you were earlier on under this, I guess it's conservative government that you have that is not acting very conservative? Yeah. are you better off now than you were then? And at some point the culture says, no, we need a change.And they collectively wake up, but when that's gonna be, is it gonna be next year?Is it gonna be next decade? Or is it gonna be 100 years from now?There's no way to predict.Yeah, I'm just imagining, sorry, I'm just imagining Jordan Peterson writing a letter of apology to the Canadian government saying how wrong he was. I think this actually could be a series, you could have different, I'm sure you would love to do one program, you know, many people, a whole 45-minute fly on the wall, high-profile individuals writing I'm so sorry letters, sounds perfect. 
Yeah, I think Babylon Bee needs to take this up immediately.Hey, there's one more. 
Russell Brand ought to do this. This is absolutely made for Russell Brand.I think you need to patent this idea immediately. 
Russell Brand's an intriguing character. I'm not going to go there.One other thing I'd pull out, distorted racism, and this pitting people against others.Living in London, being in a very mixed culture, coming from Northern Ireland, being in a mono culture, and enjoying that mix and all that brings, and then this push to, no, you must see racism behind everything.That on top of everything else, it is, the tension that is developing in society is frightening.The people are encouraged to pit themselves against someone else instead of agreeing to disagree, not allowed to agree to disagree. And if you don't agree, you're wrong, you must be hated, you must be mocked, you must be attacked.You see as well in the States that that tension is bubbling under the surface.
And it's just, I mean, we're laughing at our Canadian colleagues, but we know that they have been at the tip of the spear in advancing a lot of these agendas, most notably the de-banking, is the most egregious example. And Nigel can, there in the UK, can speak eloquently at length about the debanking agenda and its intended linkage with social credit system.Yeah, so the question is, I think for all of us, again, this grappling with the tension between incompetence and nefarious intent, which is so hard to disambiguate unless we're mind readers or we are able to get through Freedom of Information Act, the smoking gun documents that establish nefarious intent.But this division of society, again and again and again, repeated division into subgroups on top of subgroups on top of subgroups, absolutely has the appearance of serving the interests of large financial and power interests, which may be transnational, multinational, or globalist.We have these euphemisms that are all used. Just as the hypothetical, not saying necessarily this is what's happening, but if you had, let's say, traditional monarchists or large banking conglomerates.Or we can go down the list of potential actors that were interested in further enhancing their power and financial base at the expense of what ostensibly is a self-governing populace, then I hesitate to use the term democracy.And I would get attacked if I used the term democracy in the United States, because we don't technically have a democracy, just like technically you don't have a constitution.But it certainly has appeared to be in the interests of these very large concentrated power blocks that are led by a very small number of individuals who happen to be, have accumulated, you know, calling it wealth is kind of almost a misnomer, assets in power that they have, they and their families or progenitors or associates have historically exploited to further concentrate and exert their influence over world affairs.That's my attempt to be politically correct and wrap things with words that the average person would just say, well, they're all corrupt and they want to run the world.And as I get, again, I cite back the postmodern golden rule, those of us of a certain age recall when the golden rule was due unto others as you would have them do unto you.And in the postmodern world, the golden rule is those with the gold make the rules.Maybe it's always been that way.I don't know. Maybe I was just naïve back then when I was listening to my pastor speak on the lectern in the Episcopalian church that my parents used to go to.And that's another thing that I find fascinating When you think about it, we all, many people used to...I'll say, make fun of the Church of England in its leadership in advancing what we now recognize as a woke agenda.But it is increasingly normalized across much of the Christian theologic space, notably including the Catholic Church, the current pope.So maybe we got it all wrong. Maybe the Episcopalians were actually the tip of the spear in advancing the new world order. I don't know.But it kind of increasingly looks that way. One would never imagine the Episcopalian clergy as, I don't think any stereotype would label them as the avant garde cutting edge of social change.And yet, so it would seem. 
Yeah, that fight for truth in the church, whenever it's there in black and white in the Bible.Can we finish on, word of the week, adulteration, this, I guess, 
Great memes circulating, with, I guess the Sermon on the Mount with the stone tablets, with the 10 commandments and the statement, thou shalt not commit adulteration. And no, it's not adultery.Yeah, so this is a scientific technical term and a regulatory term.It's actually entrenched in American federal law and throughout the world in regulatory statutes, and policies that have largely been enforced and structured, through the International Committee on Harmonization, throwing out some buzzwords there for all of you wokes, which is kind of the international body that has harmonized it.You know, that's another good woke term, very important in European politics.We all want to be harmonized and aligned.But harmonized regulatory policies globally, so that Mr. Pharma doesn't have the inconvenience of having to restructure their regulatory documents for each nation state that they submitted to.So harmonization is important, and a key term throughout all of this is adulteration, which is in its simplest form.It is the incorporation of adulterants or impure material into, in the original American statute, food, devices, or drugs.Remember, we have the Food and Drug Administration that's responsible for this.And it goes back to the time of the scandals that Upton Sinclair revealed in his classic works, literary works, concerning the Chicago slaughterhouse environment and contamination of food with rat faeces and other materials. So rat faeces or other awful, you know, excrement from animal species contaminating foodstuffs is absolutely considered to be an adulterant.But technically in the drug space, adulteration consists of inclusion of materials in a final drug product, that are not specifically disclosed in the label.Remember the label also includes that little package insert that goes in the box that says all those things that nobody ever reads in the very fine print.But basically, as one is allowed to market a drug product, typically that requires the final drug product, I'll say this way, is defined as the sum total of everything that goes into making it.So the manufacturing process, the testing and release, the regulatory documentation, the documentation about the clinical trials, all of that, it's not just the stuff that's in the pill or in the syringe, but it's all that stuff, that documentation and information that surrounds it, that cloud of information.And so technically, if a regulatory authority together with a manufacturer disclose that, well, In fact, in our product, there is a certain fraction of rat feces, but we have a test for rat feces, and those rat feces cannot exceed 0.001% or whatever the thing is.That type of thing makes that not an adulterant. If it is disclosed and you have some parameters around it, then that's acceptable.What's happened here with these RNA genetic products is that two things have not been disclosed. And basically, they have been detected, by two different laboratory groups, one in the United States and one in the University of Guelph.You'll remember University of Guelph being the home of Byron Bridle.And so now we have another Guelph dissenter, solid, rock-solid scientist in his group that does DNA sequencing that these two groups have acquired at great difficulty because, of course, this is forbidden in most nation states to be able to analyze the vials that Pfizer or Moderna give us.We're told to just accept them that they are as they are asserted to be, which has never been the case with other drugs.Always a national authority like Paul Ehrlich or the European Union will independently verify that what is in the vial by random sampling is in fact what pharma says is in the vial.And it's within those limitation parameters that are predefined in the regulatory package.But it turns out that they were asleep at the switch or wilfully ignorant or we can extend that out, and hopefully someday we'll have the documentation to allow us to discern how the heck this happened.But we are hearing now more and more a cascade of mea culpa statements, from European Medicines Agency, Health Canada, Australian regulatory authorities, yet to hear this from the FDA for some reason, that in fact, we're guilty.We weren't aware. Mr. Pharma misled us. 
Pfizer, Moderna, whomever, misled us. And in fact, there is quite a bit of these small linear DNA fragments contaminating the final drug product.And by the way, the DNA source, a circular piece of DNA that was used to manufacture the RNA, it was grown in bacteria.And that leads to another whole can of worms is the endotoxin contamination.And whether it's been adequately monitored.Endotoxin being something that's known to cause shock in humans when injected, humans turn out to be exquisitely sensitive to injected endotoxin compared to many other species.And that may have something to do with some of the anaphylactic reactions that patients develop within the first 24 to 48 hours.Certainly that is consistent with endotoxin contamination. but also that we have this DNA contamination.And so, because it wasn't disclosed.And furthermore, the composition sequence of the plasmid from which these short DNA fragments are derived was not disclosed.And in particular, the existence of some sequences derived from simian virus 40 were not disclosed.And a lot of then this constitutes an indulgent.And the EMA and some of these other health agencies are now basically saying, not our fault, Pfizer didn't tell us about it. And Pfizer is coming out with statements saying, well, we didn't tell you about it because we didn't think it was important. I'm paraphrasing, but that's the essence of the argument. And it turns out this is not okay, because short linear DNA fragments that are produced by degrading these plasmids are among the most highly active DNA molecules if you want to mutate a genome, let's say, of a cell line or an experimental animal.And normally, that level of DNA contamination would be below the threshold that has historically been imposed for vaccines.So it's a chronic problem, DNA contamination in vaccines. Basically, it was a major reason why the Solvay program that I was on got killed, because they couldn't get rid of all the DNA they needed to from the cell lines that were growing the flu.That's a tangent. But it's a known problem in biologics manufacturing.And so technically, the threshold level of DNA fragments that are there are below the historic allowed DNA contamination.But it's kind of apples and oranges because with an injectable, let's say, a flu vaccine, it's not designed to be a polynucleotide delivery system.Okay, but what we have here with these RNA products, thanks to the enabling technology created at the University of British Columbia by Peter Cullis and his colleagues after decades of work, by the way, they were the ones, if anybody's going to get the Nobel Prize for the enabling technology advance, it was those guys, not the pseudouridine people, but that's another tangent. So shout out to Peter Cullis, I guess, for enabling this technology in vivo. But that tech is agnostic about whether it's DNA or RNA. And so you have the most potent non-viral delivery system ever devised by man being formulated with not only RNA, in RNA that isn't really natural RNA, it has a very, very long half-life and it's immunosuppressive if that was by design, but also with these short DNA fragments, which are known to be highly mutagenic.It hasn't been proven in these formulations, but the literature is explicit on that and abundant, that short linear DNA fragments will drive mutations in your cells in your body, if it's injected through your body.And then perhaps most worrisome, we know that these formulations, based on the Pfizer common technical document that was submitted, that's the non-clinical package to get authorization to proceed.That was kind of the last shot at doing the real toxicology, revealed that these particles have a surprisingly high affinity for ovarian tissue.Which is where germ cells reside in the form of eggs, ova, and not tested was whether or not these ova take up these particles, but certainly the ovarian tissue in general does.And then of course, we also have the recommendation that pregnant women should be receiving these products.And we know from the literature that these products cross the placenta.So they are getting into baby, and baby is in first trimester in a highly, rapidly developing embryonic environment.And so my determination is this is a true risk.It is one that will manifest in the form of somatic cell cancers, particularly lymphomas and leukaemia's, which by the way, we do happen to be seeing a surgeon inexplicably.But if you wanted to, in an experimental model, drive the development of leukaemia's and lymphomas, you could use retroviral gene therapy vectors.That's why it basically killed retroviral gene therapy was because of these side effects of leukaemia's and lymphomas because of insertional immunogenesis.And you could do it experimentally if you wanted to discover oncogenes or tumour suppressor genes, because that's how this technology was used.You could deliver, using these cool new formulations from Cullis et al, short DNA fragments, and they would absolutely disrupt the genome.And so there's the cancer risk, and there's obviously a germline foetal development mutagenesis risk.And I'm confident enough, because this was the area of molecular biology that I literally cut my teeth on originally.Mouse memory tumour virus, intentional mutagenesis, and searchable mutagenesis in order to search for oncogenes and tumour suppressor genes, under the mentorship of MD, PhD pathologist, one of the first molecular pathologists who had just finished a sabbatical with Bishop Envarmus, who got the Nobel prize for discovering oncogenes.Okay, so I know this area, the literature is clear and explicit, and I'm so confident about these observations that I'm willing to put my reputation on the line and say, this is happening at some frequency.We just don't know what the frequency is right now.Well, it's a huge topic and it's a perfect end. And I know another reason to get your Substack is you've just put an article up on this, republished a trial site news piece on this and people can delve into that.But Robert, I always appreciate your time for coming on and congratulations on having a speaker in the house.Now the Republicans can continue to use their majority for to do nothing. So well done.
Oh what a bizarre world we live in. So yes, all true. I'm from Louisiana and we now have a Republican governor in Louisiana who I've known and worked with. It's been my pleasure.And the new speaker talks the talk, so let's see if he'll be able to walk the walk about all these various issues.And time will tell on that, but they are under a pretty short deadline to fund the government.And are we going to continue to see basically kick the can down the road, continuing resolution, or are we going to see the Republican marginal Republican majority in the House that ostensibly is the ones that are supposed to create the budget actually do what they have been saying they're going to do and take up all these independent budgets for funding the various public agencies, including Department of Defense Homeland Security with CISA, the intelligence community and their black budget, and all of these other weird and wonderful agencies that we have developed here in the United States that are bleeding us all dry and driving...The other day, I was reading Doug Casey's International Man, and he used the metaphor that the American government is like Wile E. Coyote in the Roadrunner series.It's already run off the edge of the cliff and it just isn't aware that it's about to plummet down to the bottom and get crushed.We are way past the danger zone in terms of our indebtedness.I don't know what's gonna happen. 
100%. For the viewers and for listeners, make sure and follow Robert if you don't already on his Twitter or on GETTR, on the Substack, and lies my government told me, is a perfect Christmas present gift.So do look out for that.
Do get a...
Oh yeah, please. 
A copy. And pass out, but- 
I've heard it referred to as an important historic document.
Oh, it is. Oh, it is. 
Because it was written in real time.And that could never be written today because many of the references have been getting scrubbed from the internet.
Yeah. Yeah, we've seen that. Absolutely. Robert, thanks so much for coming on, sharing your latest Substack and a number of other thoughts. So thank you.
Thanks, Peter. Anytime.

The Week According To . . . Charlotte: The Baroness

Welcome to our regular look back at the news, media and talking points from the past seven days as we roll out the red carpet for the return of a true free speech crusader, Charlotte, The Baroness of Burnley!Charlotte has become a prominent social media voice and commentator since the beginning of the ‘scamdemic’ madness in March 2020.She prides herself on pointing out Government inconsistencies, hypocrisy and media manipulation techniques with an added dose of much-needed humour on a daily basis, Charlotte’s X account is the one to follow.So who better to help us look back over the past seven days news, articles and at what has caught our attention on the web and on social media including...- Avoiding Armageddon at this point is going to be very difficult.- Father Calvin Robinson: The anti-woke cleric that's too reactionary for GB News?- Online Safety Bill becomes law making the UK the safest place in the world to be on the web?- MP Crispin Blunt arrested on suspicion of rape.- Swimming competition allows 50-year-old transgender swimmer to compete with teenage girls.- Safe and Effective: An extract from the signed Pfizer / South Africa COVID-19 Vaccine Contract from 2020.- Brave final photo of Manchester United and England icon revealed.- Matt Hancock tells lawyers he wants immunity from Covid care home deaths during the scamdemic.- Boris Johnson spotted on the way to his new job at GB News.
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Originally broadcast live 28.10.23
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Links to topics...Armageddon https://twitter.com/DougAMacgregor/status/1717755091824820683Calvin Robinsonhttps://archive.ph/JWIcBOnline Safety Bill https://www.gov.uk/government/news/overwhelming-support-for-online-safety-act-as-rules-making-uk-the-safest-place-in-the-world-to-be-online-become-law#:~:text=The%20Online%20Safety%20Bill%20yesterday,duties%20on%20social%20media%20platforms.MP Crispin Blunt https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-67233090Trans https://www.sportskeeda.com/swimming/news-trans-age-next-new-thing-riley-gaines-reacts-swimming-competition-allowing-50-year-old-transgender-swimmer-compete-teenage-girlsPfizerhttps://x.com/wolsned/status/1717057562581877094?s=20Charltonhttps://x.com/CharlotteEmmaUK/status/1716895468515721668?s=20Hancock  https://x.com/ScottAnd67/status/1716787263672049692?s=20Borishttps://x.com/CharlotteEmmaUK/status/1717976479236038884?s=20

Col (Ret) John R Mills - War Against the Deep State

Show Notes and Transcript
Col (Ret) John Mills returns to Hearts of Oak to discuss his latest book 'War Against The Deep State', a follow up to 'The Nation Will Follow'. John’s background of decades in the US military gives him an unparalleled understanding of the role of The Deep State through the institutions. In this book he starts in the same way as he started his last, with family, with mums (Moms for our American viewers!) and how they will win this war. John then shows the importance of getting involved at a local level and then we look at Big Tech and how Private Public Partnerships are being used to push a big state agenda. Stay tuned until the end as John delivers us a message of hope and tells us why this battle we find ourselves in, is a fight that can and must be won.
COL (Ret) John R. Mills and Former Director, Cybersecurity Policy, Strategy, and International Affairs, Office of the Secretary of DefenseCOL (Ret) Mills has had an immense impact on a number of significant national security events over the last 40 years, from the Cold War, Peace Dividend, War on Terror, World in Chaos, and the era of Great Power Competition and the showdown with China. He has served multiple combat tours. This service has been both in uniform and as a senior civilian for the Department of Defense and included service with the National Security Council at the White House across two Administrations. He has served in joint, conventional, and special operations units and as a senior staff planner on the Chairman’s Joint StaffJohn is a part of the Center for Security Policy, Committee on Present Danger China, Spectrum consulting group, an adjunct Professor for a major University’s Graduate Program, founder of the National Election Integrity Association, and a regular Op-Ed contributor for Newsmax, Epoch Times, Real America's Voice, and Daily Middle East.
"War Against The Deep State" outlines the development of the mass surveillance program started in 2007 to protect Americans, the weaponization of mass surveillance against the American Citizen, and the rise of the unlawful 4th, 5th, and 6th branches of Government. These unlawful branches of Government are the Administrative State, the collusion and marriage of Law Enforcement, Intelligence, and Big Tech, and the Non-Profits that unduly steer and influence Government.
In "The Nation Will Follow", John is a modern day Whitaker Chambers (who successfully exposed Communists in the State Department in the late 1940s and 1950s) and gives his account of finding himself in the middle of Spygate/Russiagate, realizing there is a Deep State, his four year path to getting in front of the Durham investigation, and gives the action plan for citizens to re-take their counties. American governance and elections are all based on the 3,300 counties and county equivalents. 
Available on Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/stores/author/B0B999YZPK
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Interview recorded 24.10.23 
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Transcript
(Hearts of Oak)
Colonel John Mills. It is wonderful to have you back with us. Thanks so much for your time today.
(Col John Mills)
Oh, Peter, thank you. An honour to be on your show again with you. Thank you so much.
Great to have you. And of course, you're one of the regular War Room Posse, and it's to all the War Room Posse watching on Rumble and GETTR, great to have you with us. And today we have one of your own, one of the regular ones with Steve. And I think last time, John, we were looking at your other book, your first book. Let me bring that up on the screen. And the first one was The Nation Will Follow, and that is that first-hand experiences fighting the deep state and the action plan for the American citizen. And today we're going to look at your latest book, which is just out and it is War Against the Deep State. I will get into, I've thoroughly enjoyed reading through it. I will pull out a number of the different chapter points in it. But maybe, John, the first question, often individuals write book and then they move on to something often quite different. You've stayed on a similar thread. Do you want to just let the viewers know why this is something kind of you feel fixed on and why it's so important to produce a second book on a similar topic?Well, thank you, Peter. I always intended this to be a two-book series. The first book, in many ways, was about what I gave to the Durham investigation and my different statements and submissions to the Durham investigation and my personal war against, or my personal combat and experience fighting the deep state while I was inside of government.We do have a very important arrest out of the Durham investigation.It hadn't gotten a lot of attention and it was technically it was separated out from the Durham investigation, but I think that was pure Department of Justice front office, quibbling with Merrick Garland and John Durham who says, okay, John, we'll give you this, But you have to separate it out from the core Durham investigation.But it's Charles McGonigal, Charles McGonigal, the former director of counterintelligence to the New York field office.This is just like some of the famous British spy cases where it was found to be trusted people who were actually working for the Russians.It turns out McGonigal was the guy feeding us information in early 2016 about Trump, Trump, Trump, Russia, Russia, Russia, or actually it was Russia, Russia, Russia, Trump, Trump, Trump. And it was like, oh, okay, I'm a sworn professional. Okay. If it was, if Trump was in on this, I mean, I want to know. And that led to the, to the total fraudulent Intel community assessment of November, December, 2016. So that's, what, you know, a lot of what book one was about. And it was about, you know, the action plan right in your county.Book two is far more detail into how we've really arrived at the unlawful fourth, fifth, and sixth branches of government in America.And this is really the deep state manifesting itself. And in the American system, the unlawful for those who've been, their brains have been mushed by Howard's in history books in the American public school system.It's the fourth branch of government is the administrative state.The fifth branch of government is the coming together of federal law enforcement, federal intelligence and big tech to unlawfully surveil.And then the sixth branch of government are in the American tax code and system than what we call the non-profits, the 501C3s.So that's really the deep state manifesting itself and the order of hierarchy from the top to the lower levels is always, at this point in time in the year 2023, it's China, globalists manifested by Klaus.We must have a reset. We must establish an enduring reset.So Klaus and the Globalists.And then we always have to throw in Russia, Iran, Venezuela, and North Korea, and in America it's our uniparty that is enabling these unlawful fourth, fifth, and sixth branches of government.So that's why there was a two-book series.And then also more detail and success cases, success stories of the foundation of the American system is at the county and county equivalent level.So that's where most Americans should spend all of their time and energy, and if they want to have great effect at the national level is crash the market capitalization of these woke companies, such as Disney, okay?So there's a lot of victories and success stories here, and in America there's too many people on our side of the ledger disappointed, disillusioned, oh, nothing we can do, they'll It's worthless.It's over. You know, I'm a Churchill guy, and Churchill was both an American and a sovereign UK citizen, okay?I'm never, ever, ever give up, never, ever, ever surrender, ever.And so we will win if we put our shoulder to the wheel here.So in war against the deep state, I go over this. And I was part of the interagency team that put together the mass surveillance system in 2007 and 2014, which had a very strong enabling factor with the linkage with the Five Eyes, the five English-speaking nations, because our five intelligence services work, extremely closer, there's no closer relationship in the world.And then we have Five Eyes Plus, I'm not going to name any countries, but there's a number of other countries in the Five Eyes Plus category.So that's the transition from Book One, and the nation will fall into Book Two, War Against the Deep State.
Okay, there are a lot of things we want to pick up and we'll get towards those fourth, fifth and sixth sections of the government, the administrative state, the surveillance state and the C3s, that charitable sectors as we call it in the UK and all those areas by themselves are fascinating, all those areas could be a book in themselves, no pressure on you, John, but you start chapter one, you start in a similar way to the first book, a paragraph from it.If you have read book one, the nation will follow, and if you haven't, I strongly advise that you do, then you will know that I started the book with a similar message, Moms will win this war.Tell me why you start with that same message about the importance of moms in this fight.Two reasons. I think there is a distinct identifiable, the women have been at the forefront of this fight in America and I think in many places. Women are often the first to respond to the message of Christ, they're the first to respond to many messages and actions and I think it is quite noteworthy and laudable of the role because many women in addition to being mothers have said I am NOT going put up with this insanity that I'm dealing with in my county school board.And they're the first ones to show up.So one, a bravo and more encouragement. That's great. That's wonderful.It's beautiful. But it's also a message to the men to get off the couch and get on, get in the game.Yeah, there's a lot of the men I've noticed have this attitude, well, especially in a traditional family which is a good and noble thing. It's a foundation for any society. If you don't have family, if you don't have borders, you don't have a civilization. If you don't have families, you don't have a civilization. And we're all addressing dealing with this collapse in birth rates. Having children is a God-ordained thing. Come on people, stop. Well, I'm too busy with my professional life. Oh, you know, I can't afford another child. I mean, give me a break. Come on, Let's get out there, have families, have children, but the role of women, and also a message to the men, put down the bowl of loudmouth soup, stop bellowing on social media, stop going, I might lose my job, and get into the game and provide backup and reinforcement for these incredible women.And I love what many of the women organisations are doing. We've had Moms for Liberty on, Tina a number of times and that's just one of many, I think, organisations across the state that have taken the fight back to the system and are standing up for their rights as parents and also the rights for their children. So it's exciting to see that happening right before our eyes. Another part of the ballot, chapter two, understanding your county. And this is.There are a number of chapters through the books that make me sit back and think, actually, yeah, you're right. I didn't necessarily see that as part of the fight, but it is. Tell us about the county, because I think most people automatically think the swamp, DC, central government, that's the enemy, that's the bad one. But you go down to the county level and tell us the importance of being involved there. Why is it so important? 
Well, in the American system, and you know, after 35 plus years of working at the federal level and facing outward to battle the external threat, I didn't even realize it. And in the American system, the county and the county equivalent are the foundation of the Constitutional Republic. If you're county or county equivalent, the Census Bureau rosters 3300 county-county equivalents across America and in different states they could be called different things like in Louisiana they're parishes, in Alaska, forgive me, I think it's districts, so there's different possible names but predominantly they're called counties, county equivalents, that's the foundation for a constitutional republic.That's the foundation for our voting system. If you have a dirty vote in a county, it's not, as we learned on January 6, 2020, it's not going to get cleaner or better as it goes up toward Congress.The state is unlikely to fix it. The federal system is unlikely to fix it.They say, well, hey, this is your vote. I'm just going by what your vote said.And I think we learned a hard lesson and we forgot the importance of right where we live.Right where I live and I spend most of my energy fighting, fighting the deep state right in my county.We used to be a deep red county. We're now a bluish, bluish purplish county.And I think a lot of it is fraudulent activity, but most of the activists, conservative activists in our county just kind of said, hey, we're in Red County, what do we got to worry about?We just, we got it under control. And it was stolen right out, right from behind our back as we were thinking, hey, we're in, we got this county.No, no.So in the American system, the county is, that's where it starts, that's the foundation.Deep state at the federal level would not exist if we had clean counties. And in the American system, the 2024 vote is the big three are Maricopa in Arizona, Fulton in Georgia, and the worst of the worst, Philadelphia and Pennsylvania. 
One of the subsections is establishing information dominance. I mean, tell us about that, because that's where you're sure-footed, that's where confidence comes from, that's where boldness comes from when you understand the position you're in, the fight in your area. Tell us more, and it doesn't just apply to a country level, it applies in every area that information is key. 
It's being able to articulate a mastery of the legal landscape, of the personality landscape. Now having worked years and in the special operations community and counterterrorism and I'm very careful about using this term because people start freaking out and taking all kinds of misinterpretations but when when I coach and mentor others I always say you need to create a target book, a target book for your county and that's where you you know exactly who is in what position what exactly are their position, policy positions on different topics and you know how and when these personalities and those seven groups, when they meet, when they have public comment periods and you can show up and say something intelligent, thoughtful and actionable. Action, action, action at all times.So and this is the challenge. A lot of people are upset and I say well how many show up to these meetings, few people, and I say, okay, of those who show up, how many say something?Even fewer people of what's left.And then I go, okay, and what did you say, or write? And then we start to go through it, and I think sometimes people need to work a little bit on their vocabulary and presentation, because sometimes it may be counterproductive.I say, oh, you wrote a letter to the county board. Can I see that letter?And I go, whoa, that's interesting.I wouldn't have written it.I wouldn't have written it that manner.In fact, if I was a public official receiving this letter, I would interpret this as a physical threat, okay?So we need to be more thoughtful in how we come across.And people say, well, you're just becoming part of the uniparty.No, no, no, this is part of civil society and we need to get tough, we need to get smart and we need to get like, dominate the information environment.We need to know the state laws on elections, okay? We need to know the state codes on these different topics.We need to know exactly the governance venue in which these laws are actually applied.We need to know what the school board, who is saying what.You need to prepare and dominate this environment. And that way when you stand up and you say something, if you have a clean county, the officials are going to pay attention because they're going to go, oh, geez, I actually haven't even read that law in 20 years. I'd better go back and read that law.And if you have a dirty county, people are going to get very nervous.
You're a hundred percent. Chapter three is another one that kind of is under the radar, I think, and that's public-private partnerships.What could possibly go wrong? And you start with a quote, the most dangerous man in any government is the man who's able to think things out for himself without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos, almost inevitably comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, and intolerable, I love it.And so if he is romantic, he tries to change it. But tell us about that private partnership because these are connections, these are relationships that maybe many of the public will have no idea are in place and are happening and are shaping our lives.
Well, yeah, when I first came into the office of Secretary of Defense in 2004, I think it was.Everybody was using this term public-private partnerships. We got to create a public-private partnership on, Information sharing which also led to that, mass surveillance program starting in 2007 now in the American system, I mean the elites love to use that expression and so I would I set up some of the original be even before 2007 some of the original public-private, CONFABs, CONFAB, at least in my Webster's, is a small intimate gathering where you can talk, talk in detail.Well, we would have these public-private gatherings. There is no legal definition of a public-private gathering in the American system. One of the things I realized after a while, there is no legal definition.So you can do whatever you want to do. Now, we do have laws such as the FACA, FACA.Federal Advisory and I think FACA, Federal Advisory and Consulting Act, which does lay some boundaries on how and when groups, individuals can participate in helping to formulate federal policy, which is not law, it's policy, but this led to the Enduring security framework, it led to, which was our way to, and we established it lawfully, but we essentially did end around the FACA Act because we cited exceptions, and we very artfully did that.At the time, it sounded like a good idea, but this led to us establishing a relationship with Silicon Valley.And this started at the end of the Bush years, 2006, 2007, 2008, hey, they have a lot of great technologies, we're involved in this war on terror, we need a surveillance system that is broad, that's pervasive, that's enduring, and frankly we can't do this without a public-private partnership with all these evolving big tech companies, which led to the program we set up in 2007 and 2014, which was the foundation for the modern pervasive surveillance state.A blurring together of federal law enforcement, federal intelligence, and big tech, and the Five Eyes component with our UK, Canadian, Australian, and then the two people in New Zealand that we work with, that was a joke, was very important.
So that and you go on to the government returns Silicon Valley next chapter which which widens that whole conversation on big tech. I know big tech was part of the focus of the first book.But tell us because we've had exposés on big tech collusion with the government and it seems, nothing much happens and in this chapter you delve into I think you call it what the four corners of innovation and you delve into different areas. I mean, tell us more about that and why has nothing really happened in that area? 
Oh, contraire, my good Peter. Many good things have happened. I mean, we got McGonigal, but we also got, it's a huge case that's developing huge energy and that's the beauty of states and the relationship of states and federal government. It's the Missouri-Louisiana case against DHS-CISA, Jen Easterly, who used to work at NSA, and used to be one of my colleagues.Great energy. And I'm actually becoming a party to this case, but the Fifth Circuit just shwacked down.That's a legal technical term.So they just shwacked down Missouri and Louisiana, I mean, DHS-CISA and FBI says, if you want to for national security reasons, talk to big tech. That's one thing.But in no way, shape or form can you share names, I'm one of them, of Americans to be targeted, silenced and censored.That is absolutely, egregiously unlawful and there was just, and this dysfunctional public-private partnership of NewsGuard.NewsGuard, which had the same personalities that I've named in book one and book two.General Mike Hayden is on the board of NewsGuard.It's a non-profit, it's a fraud, and it gets government money and it also again is absolutely unlawful because they're just like the FBI, just like DHS-CISA, they're giving names of Americans to be targeted, silenced, and censored on social media. So this is huge victories are amassing in this area. This is gaining unstoppable momentum and so they've been told, you know, DHS-CISA and and the FBI said, absolutely, if you want to meet with them.For national security reasons, that's one thing, but you, in no way, shape, or form can this be a venue or obfuscate the unlawful, say, I want you, here's a list of names of people to target silence and censor, and that goes both ways.That goes neither, and industry can't give that to the government. So this is huge.It's just huge what's going on, and I, we've uncovered a list that actually had my name on it and it's like hmm what did I do that was so egregious, why was I one of the names listed so this is this is the out-of-control nature and of these of these deep staters who just you know, law is just for the little people. We're going to do whatever we want to do.And you know, Jen Easterly is up there arguing through her lawyers in the Fifth Circuit.No, it's very important that DHS modulate and regulate public discourse. Really? Where does it say that? I mean, in the UK might be a different story. But I'm sorry, the American system. Absolutely not. There is absolutely no this is DHS is monitoring election infrastructure. I'm going, where's the law on this? There actually is no statute that says DHS CISA, it's your job to federalize and operate and provide mass surveillance of the election system.There's no law that says that. There's no law that says they can give names to big tech. So that's what's going on here. And that's for these chapters. 
Is that a step change? Because you've got a lot of experience with the military and intelligence and the agencies and understanding that, I mean traditionally probably most of the public thought that those agencies were focused on hostile threats abroad, bad countries, bad actors outside the US, but it seems as though there's been a whole flip over of the focus now being on those internally and law abiding citizens now been followed. Is that a change or has that really always been happening?I think maybe in the past some of this has happened. In a later chapter in the book I talk about the Church Commission that Senator Frank Church who led a very noteworthy event in, 1974-75 to really review the misbehavior in the intelligence community.We need a modern commission, but it needs to go far broader and deeper.And we need to literally start over with some of these agencies.I'm all for, we have to have an aggressive law enforcement, a federal law enforcement, and intelligence.But there must be absolute transparency and accountability. And it's to protect the American people.But in no way can it be weaponized. And yes, somehow, somebody missed the memo on this.And it just started and it grew and it grew.But General Mike Hayden, who I used to think highly of, was a poster child.His most recent, one of his X-Twitters, tweets, what do we call it, an X-tweet, an X-X, I don't know what we call it.But he, you know, made some very unthoughtful comments about Senator Tuberville of Alabama.And it's like, you know, essentially I would have taken it as a physical threat, and Senator Tuberville, very rightly so, turned him in to Capitol Hill Police as this former official is making a violent threat.And I think he was. And he needs to be, again, a technical term, he needs to be schwacked for that.And it's just very unthoughtful.But it's just, you have Dr. Malone coming on in the near future.It's that mass psychosis has taken over and formerly reasonable people have just gone bat guano crazy.Another technical term, is where, they just they went berserk on this and we, it's we must modulate what Americans are saying in social media.Really? What is that? It's that mass psychosis inside of the deep staters are career civilians, are political civilians, our uniformed military, all the contractors.Yeah, the government always know best, come on John, you should know that by now.Chapter six goes, the title is An Angry County Registrar, an incremental win in taking back our counties. And you start by saying, as I have already mentioned, I never ask anyone to do something that I would not be willing to do myself. I want to take this opportunity to highlight some successes that I've had myself. And you touch on, talk to your attorney general, you talk about finding the sheriff, get an office call with a judge.Maybe you can just touch on that because those are ways that practically people can get involved.Because I think often people think it's too big. And I think one of the beauties of your book is that you break it down into manageable chunks so people can say, I can do that.So maybe touch on some of those local engagements.Yeah, thank you, Peter. Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna eat an elephant, I don't know if this is an appropriate term in 2023.I haven't run this by the censors yet, but if you're gonna eat an elephant, you gotta start a bite at a time here. And you gotta really start, again, information dominance and mastery, understand who does what in your county.And this is where in 2019, I started tangling with our former registrar.In our county, a registrar runs an election.In Arizona, they're called recorders. Again, in other states, they may be called different things, but essentially the same, very similar roles and functions.And so I started tangling with Michelle White and it just, man, she just sent me some.And this was, I didn't, because this had not resolved by the time we published book one.So I wanted to give kind of a journey here.It's still on, the battle's still ongoing.But long story short, in early 22, I was asked to give a presentation to our, Jason Miyares staff, our Attorney General in Virginia, who came in with Governor Youngkin in a kind of a red wave.And so he said, so what's going on in Prince William County?So I said, okay, here's what I think.Well, I presented my documented series of tanglings with Michelle White.I was able to force her out. I wasn't the only one probably, there was other things going on, but I was the one who really duked it out with her, it out with her, and she resigned shortly after the 2020 November election.And you know, the only person who got really angry, the only group that really got angry was the county Republican Party, who sent me just a vicious, nasty letter on it.That's another story.But she resigned. But then in early 22, the Miyares team said, OK, what's going on? I gave him that.That's it's in the American system. It just can't be one person's word.You have to have multiple parties who make statements and they're cooperated.But after that led to other people, that led to more conversations, a grand jury panel was, a grand jury was impaneled.That's a high bar to get to that. And then they ran it and the grand jury returned several felony indictments against Michelle White.So my former registrar, so she's going through the legal process right now, for election fraud in 2020.So and all the people, there's no election fraud in 2020. Well, yeah, actually my registrar has been charged with election fraud.So I'm tangling with my current registrar, who just a few months ago, the Republican election board could have easily, no questions asked, replaced the new registrar, who I have grave concerns with also, and they choked and their inner Mitt Romney came to the forefront and they renewed the contract of this registrar.And so next board meeting, I said, I went through it, said, members of the board, in short, I said they've demonstrated their absolute fecklessness and I insisted that they all three resign.The two Republicans and one Democrat need to resign. We need to start fresh with the election board.They failed in their basic duties to ensure, because they hire and fire the registrar.So I'm battling, since they failed and choked, they could have easily brought in a new registrar, said, okay, fine.I want their, in that case, I want the election board's resignation and I'm working to hammer that through.I want to move on to chapter 7 and it's in the foreword by Ed Martin which was short and right to the point and he pulls the three of the six, the last three branches of government that go under the radar and that is the administrative state which we've touched on a little bit, unlawful mass surveillance as the fifth branch and I know you certainly focused on that in in the first book. But it's also the third part of it or the sixth branch which is the non-profits, composed of IRS recognized c3 non-profits. This has been an extremely intelligent way that the battle has moved on using entities that seem to be very good or therefore good to do positive and to take them and to use them.Maybe you want to touch on either of the other two, but it was certainly the non-profit side that intrigued me because once again this goes under the radar I think and now and then we have flashes in even in the mainstream media of how some of these organizations are used and they then we're told that's a one-off, but it seems to be a trend.Yeah, I'm all for IRS 501c3s, these non-profits in the American system.Two basic elements, they're always supposed to be non-partisan and apolitical, which are two different things, but they're not supposed to get involved.So in the American system, the poster child for bad behavior here is what we call the the University of Pennsylvania Biden Center.So after he left office in 2016, or January 2017, he created this adjunct appendage, of the big University of Pennsylvania, which is a tens of billions of dollars nonprofit itself.Most universities in America are non-profits.And so we got this UPenn Biden Center, But we don't know what it is, and this is where Tony Blinken, now Secretary of State, who led this UPenn Biden Center, he ran the greatest election interference operation in history for 2020 with the 51 intel officer letter, 11 of which I had worked for or worked with.And so it shows you right there, the UPenn Biden Center, which we can't find the IRS Form 990.It's actually not in the, I've searched the IRS database multiple times.And I've talked to the lawyers at University of Pennsylvania.And supposedly it's buried somewhere. You can have a nonprofit within a nonprofit. That's legally okay.But the universities are just gargantuan nonprofits, tens of billions of dollars of wealth, ten of billions of dollars of annual revenue and yet they they're just again that whole theme of transparency and accountability.Who at the IRS is checking to, you know, the UPenn Biden Center, which again, we can't find this, 990. Blinken ran this election interference operation. You can't do that. You can't do that.And it was the greatest election interference operation in history. And everybody goes, oh, well, let's just move on. Come on. Don't ask any questions. There was no there was no matters with election fraud.So this is the poster child for bad behaviour among the nonprofits.Moving on, and I'm keen to give a flavour because you pull in so much in the book, which actually is a short read as well. Chapter eight, FBI gone wild.And I thought, well, that could go anywhere. but two areas you pull up on, the Whitmer scam and also the FBI riot on J6.Maybe you wanna touch on those as examples of how the FBI have gone wild or gone rogue.Yeah, this is where transparency and accountability must be demanded.And so in the Michigan case, there was this group that was portrayed as right wing.However, when you peel back the onion and actually look at the forensics, they were left wing and they were like the Wolverines or something like that.And, but, you know, it's, they're white males. So, well, obviously it's right wing if they're right white males. No, no, actually they actually, part of their gig and thing was providing security for BLM and Antifa events.So these people were clearly, but the big media soundbite was, you know, must be right wing.Well, there was this kidnapping hoax that was, that was supposedly there was this kidnapping threat against Governor Whitmer, the current governor in Michigan, who's just a absolutely bat guano crazy psycho.But, so here, there was 20-something informants, or excuse me, 20-something in this group thinking about kidnapping Whitmer.However, more than 50%, it was something like 13 of the 21 or 20, 13 were either FBI agents or FBI informants.Now I have a little bit of experience in these kind of activities and when over 50% of the group is penetrated by your own informants.It's no longer, I mean you're creating, you're creating the group. I don't buy this that, so and there has been multiple charges, a number of them have been dismissed, there have been some convictions but even then I would say hold on a second, the FBI created this group because normally you have, depending on the size, scope and scale, you know you always want to get at least two and usually those informants don't know about each other.You want to keep them separate and distinct, but you have at least two.But not 50% plus of the group is actually made up of government informants and agents.That's, you're creating the group.So that's one example. And then January 6th, and this is where we have the greatest mass incarceration in American history.Never since the Japanese Americans were interned during the Second World War have we seen something like this.We still, we don't know truth on exactly how many J6s are detained.There is no running publicly formulated and public facing list from Department of Justice, of how many J6s are interned.And we can't have truth on J6 until we have an absolute revelation of everything the FBI did in federal law enforcement and coordinated with state and local law enforcement, because January 6th, until there is full accountability, what I term it as a FBI riot.Hmm. Yeah, we've had Jake Lang on twice and a number of others who have been regularly targeted, for simply going there and filming what was happening.Chapter 10, the name of the game is Regime Change. Who's in? And you start by saying I want to begin this chapter with an example of regime change, of which I have personal experience over with Saddam Hussein. So you've been involved in that process abroad. I mean, tell us about that and kind of what you've learned from some of those experiences. 
Well, again, we need a proactive, aggressive law enforcement and intelligence that protects America. And I always point on the CIA website, I urge everybody to read the Doolittle report. This is the same Army Air Corps Lieutenant Colonel who flew Army bombers off of Navy carriers to bomb Tokyo.Eisenhower brought him in and said, what do I do with this new thing called the CIA?And it was just, I mean, you just want to stand up at the position of attention and salute the flag when you read this report. Cause I said, that is what we need.That is weak, cause he said, Doolittle said, we have never had to deal with something like the Soviet threat before and we need to take off the gloves and fight dirty.We still have boundaries and we still have responsibility and transparency and accountability but we need to take off the gloves and if we put them in a chokehold and gouge their eyes out while pouring gasoline on them and setting them on fire, that's what we need to do.That's what we need to do. This is a life or death struggle with the Soviets.His chapter was about, I'm all for this, but the whole Saddam thing kind of went out of control and I think it was kind of the early stages of a wokeness and Saddam was a bad person.He needed to be changed out.There were, was evidence of weapons of mass destruction. I point to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence 2006 report that documented thousands of pieces, elements of WMD and then said, in the body, but then in the executive summary, no evidence of WMD.And we're going, well, you just listed literally thousands in the document.So, but we could have done it better and smarter. Saddam was a bad guy, a ruthless killer, needed to go.I think we could have done it a lot better, but I wanted to show that of how things in the forever war complex kind of just really manifested itself.We could have done it a lot better with a lot more, a lot less resources bloodshed, but it just spun out of control. Yeah, we got rid of him.And then a bunch of Shia pulled, yanked them out of his, after a couple of years, yanked them out of his cell and hung them.And then they told us about it.You know, so it just was my personal involvement in regime change.Every Iraqi I worked with was killed.I mean, it's a bloody, messy business. And so we shouldn't take these things lightly.There's conditions where we need to do stuff like this, but it can be very bloody and messy.
To finish off, the last two chapters, the four corners of innovation, re-establishing America, innovation and production dominance, and then the final chapter, defeating the deep state.Obviously, you don't enter a war, you don't enter a battle unless you believe that you can win that or else you're fighting just for the sake of it. And looking at the end of the book, it's a message of, this is possible. I mean, tell us about that. I think it's a good place to leave the viewers because often these issues can be so big. I mean, whenever the topic of deep state comes up, it's huge and you've broken it down into smaller chunks, but you end on a positive note. Tell us more about that and why you believe that's possible.I give a vision of what an America-first society looks like and the pathway to returning to functional governance, functional society in the American system that is based on a constitutional republic.Four corners of innovation, which are good, but they've been perverted by the elite.Big academia is good, big companies can be good, innovators can be good, academics are important, big finance, or excuse me, venture capital can be good. Those are good, but they've been perverted and we need to, that's for creating an innovative society that makes things, and more importantly, makes things that makes things.The concept of managed decline, which most in the UK understand the concept and the heritage of where that came from, yeah, I'm going to throw that right in the trash bin.I want nothing to do with managed decline.I want growth.I want ascendancy at all times, and that's the problem with the elite.They kind of achieve this climax, and they go, there's really nothing we can do beyond this. We might as well just stop having children and just kind of lead from behind.No, forget that, never, never, ever, ever.And so I wanna give a picture of what a productive constitutionally-based system looks like.That is focused on ascendancy, an ascendancy for good, not ascendancy for dominating, an ascendancy for the good of the society.And all societies should be focused on this. All nations and the world works best when there's functional nation-states putting the interests of their citizens first and working out these matters in a functional way with other countries and that's the vision of the future and yes we can do this.
John, it's always wonderful talking to you. Let me bring up once again. That is the book War Against the Deep State is available now just out weeks ago. Do get hold of your copy. I find it fascinating to read, as I did the first one, and I think it makes simple a topic which often can be complex and shows the part we can play. So John, I appreciate you coming on and sharing.Thank you so much. 
Peter, thank you. I just always enjoy these. Looking forward the next one. It's an honour to be on your show. Thank you so much.
I hope the next one we can actually do it on an aircraft carrier.I'll work on that. I'll work on that. 
Thank you so much, John. 
Okay, thank you, Peter. Take care.
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Andrew Bridgen MP - First Excess Deaths Debate in UK Parliament

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At long last it has happened. Andrew Bridgen MP (Reclaim Party) secured a debate on excess deaths in the UK Parliament. Nearly twenty requests were turned down but Andrew simply would not give up. His courage and determination to find out the truth won in the end. Andrew gave a 25 minute presentation of all the data and facts which show a shocking rise in excess deaths since the covid jab rollout. The fact that many people have died after receiving an injection appears to be the very reason every government wants total silence on this issue. As you watch Andrew speak, be inspired to speak truth in the circles you find yourself in. Use the information in the speech to arm yourself with the facts. We now await a much longer 3 hour debate on excess deaths which Andrew is requesting.*This episode contains a background of the debate, the full speech by Andrew Bridgen MP, his message afterwards to the supporters gathered outside in Parliament Square and Peter catches a few words with the man himself.
Andrew Bridgen Member of Parliament for North West Leicestershire since 2010https://www.reclaimparty.co.uk/andrew-bridgen 
Some Key Points Made During the Speech...- Ambulance calls for life-threatening emergencies ranged from a steady 2,000 calls per day until the vaccine rollout, from then it rose to 2,500 daily and calls have stayed at this level since.  - The surveillance systems designed to spot a safety problem have all flashed red, but no one’s looking.- Payments for Personal Independent Payments (PIP) for people who have developed a disability and cannot work, have rocketed with the vaccine rollout and have continued to rise ever since.- The trial data showed that one in eight hundred injected people had a serious adverse event, meaning the risk of this was twice as high than the chance of preventing a Covid hospitalisation.- There were just over 14,000 excess deaths in the under 65-year-olds, before vaccination, from April 2020 to the end of March 2021. However, since that time there have been over 21,000 excess deaths in this age group alone.- There were nearly two extra deaths a day in the second half of 2021 among 15 – 19-year-old males,  but potentially even more if those referred to the coroner were fully included.
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(Hearts of Oak)
Hello, Hearts of Oak. Today we are here with Andrew Bridgen at a debate in Parliament, the first debate in this Parliament, on excess deaths. There's been very little debates, very little discussions on vaccine harms here. Of course, this is the issue that Andrew Bridgen MP was thrown out of the Conservative Party, the Tories, for beginning to raise the issue of vaccine harms and now raising the issue of excess deaths was simply is not discussed in this place. I've seen discussion in other parts of the world, especially Germany, with the AFD. But Andrew Bridgen has made this the hill that he will fight and die on. And he has been thrown out of the Conservative Party. He's lost that position he had for many years. Andrew Bridgen, of course, is one of the original Brexiteers, well known to any of us involved in the Brexit movement, in the UKIP movement.And Andrew has been fearless.He's one of those strange beasts in Westminster.He is led by conviction. He is led by courage and led by a desire to do what is right.And he had no desire to climb up the greasy pole. He's traditionally been a backbencher.So has stood his ground, kept his position as a lowly MP and not wanted to rise to the ministerial level, because that gives him the freedom to discuss what he wants.He's not held, he's not restricted by government restrictions, but he can say what he thinks and do what is right for his constituents, for those who vote for him, and realise that he is the servant of the people and he is not the servant of the government. So today there will be a debate led by Andrew Bridgen, I assume he will be one of maybe very few, one of one, who will actually speak on this. I'm really curious to see. I've seen a couple of Conservative, MPs who have touched on this, who have spoken a little bit about this, sometimes on GB News, but they have not gone as far as Andrew Bridgen. And Andrew Bridgen has gone this far. He has lost his job over it, and he doesn't care, because this is the right thing to do when a jab when an experimental vaccine, so-called vaccine, was rolled out and everyone was coerced and more or less forced to take it. Andrew was in that, he also took it, now regrets that and wants to keep raising the alarm on the ongoing effects of this and of course to challenge this government overreach that wants to force this upon everyone. This of course is a conservative government supposedly that stands up for freedom of speech, personal responsibility, rights, and yet all those traditional understandings of a conservative party have been completely upended and is no longer a party of freedom and liberty but is now a party of coercion and control. A number of MPs I assume will come in and speak after Andrew will present his position on excess deaths and ask the question, why is this? It seems to correlate to the rollout of the jab.You and I know that. We've seen the data. Andrew will be careful in how he puts it forward. He will use parliamentary language. He's skilled enough in this chamber to know what to say, what not to say, what connects with those in the chamber, and to win them over. Because ultimately, politics is about the art of persuasion. It is about winning the public over. And today, it is not necessarily the public is winning over, although you will watch the debate in a few moments, but actually is winning over MPs. And that also is crucial. Whatever you think, we still have 650 individuals and many of us mistrust absolutely, many of us detest. Many of us have had a traditional understanding of politics where there was a level of trust with our institutions and that included those in the building behind me. That is gone. I think for all of us, that is completely gone.And to have an individual who is a champion on the issue of curtailing that government overreach, asking questions, following the money, saying, was this just a push by big pharma for profits?Was this something darker? There are a whole load of areas we can go into, but Andrew has, wisely stayed within the areas he can understand. He has read papers, he has, understood them and he has presented those and I think he has been extremely wise on how far he has gone on this because it is a case of winning people over. That's what we have faced, all of us, over the last three years of winning friends, family, colleagues, connections over to persuade them that this is a dangerous experiment on not only the UK population but on the world population.We have a police car. I hope they don't want to arrest Andrew before his debate.I don't think even our government would do that, would they? Anyway, I will let you watch the debate, watch Andrew speaking, and then after I will try and catch up with a number of the people who have been here to support Andrew. I saw, Mike Yeadon earlier heading into the debate and I saw Matt Le Tissier earlier, I saw Fiona Hines earlier, I saw a big group of people who are here to support Andrew as he speaks truth and to let him know that he is not alone because it must feel very alone in that chamber. No one to back you, no one to support you and you feel as though you are a lonely voice crying out in the wilderness and yet.Many people have come to show Andrew that there are many people behind him who are indebted to him for actually speaking truth in this place and are standing with him shoulder-to-shoulder. So we'll hopefully talk to a few of those people after the debate.
(Andrew Bridgen MP)
Thank you, Mr Deputy Speaker. We've experienced more excess deaths since July 2021, than the whole of 2020. Unlike the pandemic, however, these deaths are not disproportionately of the old.In other words, the excessive deaths are striking down people in the prime of life.But no one seems to care. I fear history will not judge this House kindly.Worse still, in a country supposedly committed to free and frank exchange of views, it appears that no one cares that no one cares.Well, I care, Mr Deputy Speaker, and I credit those members here in attendance today who also care.And I'd also like to thank the Honourable Member for Lincoln for his support, and I'm, sorry that he couldn't attend today's debate.It's taken a lot of effort and more than 20 rejections to be allowed to raise this topic, But at last we're here to discuss the number of people dying.Nothing could be more serious. Numerous countries are currently gripped in a period of unexpected mortality, and no one wants to talk about it.It's quite normal for death numbers to fluctuate up and down by chance alone, but what we're seeing here is a pattern, repeated across countries, and the rise has not let up.I'll give way to my Honourable Gentleman. 
(Phillip Davies MP)
I'm very grateful and can I commend him for the tenacious way he's battled on this particular, issue. I certainly admire him for that. I just wonder where he found the media was in all of this, because of course during the Covid pandemic, every day, the media, particularly the BBC, couldn't wait to tell us how many people had died in that particular day without any context of those figures whatsoever. But they seem to have gone strangely quiet over these excess deaths now.
(Andrew Bridgen MP)
I thank the gentleman for his intervention. He's absolutely right. The media have let the British public down badly.There will be a full press pack going out to all media outlets following my speech with all the evidence to back up all the claims I'll make in that speech.But I don't doubt there'll be no mention of it in the mainstream media.You might think that a debate about excess deaths is going to be full of numbers.This speech does not have that many numbers because most of the important numbers have been kept hidden.Other data has been oddly presented in a distorted way, and concerned people seeking to highlight important findings and ask questions have found themselves inexplicably under attack.Before debating excess deaths, it's important to understand how excess death is determined.To understand if there is an excess, by definition you need to estimate how many deaths it would have been expected.The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development used 2015-2019 as a baseline, and the Government's Office of Health Disparities and Improvement used its 2015-2019 baseline modelled to allow for ageing, and I've used that data here.Unforgivably, the Office of National Statistics have included deaths in 2021 as part of their baseline calculation for expected deaths, as if there was anything normal about the deaths in 2021.Exaggerating the number of deaths expected, the number of excess can be minimized. Why would the ONS want to do that? There's just too much that we don't know and it's not good enough Mr. Deputy Speaker. The ONS published promptly each week the number of deaths that were registered and while this is commendable it's not the data point that really matters. There's a total failure to collect, never mind publish, data on deaths that are referred for investigation to the coroner. Why does this matter? A referral means that it can be many months and, given the backlog, many years before a death is formally registered.Needing to investigate the cause of a death is fair enough. Failing to record when the death happened is not. Because of this problem, we actually have no idea how many people actually died in 2021. Even now, the problem is greatest for the younger age groups, where there's, a higher proportion of deaths are investigated. This date of failure is unacceptable. It must change. There's nothing in a coroner's report that can bring anyone back from the dead and those deaths should be reported. The youngest age groups are important not only because they should have their whole lives ahead of them.If there is a new cause of excess mortality across the board, it would not be noticed so much in the older cohorts because the extra deaths would be drowned out amongst the expected deaths.However, in the youngest cohorts, that is not the case. There were nearly two extra deaths a day in the second half of 2021 among 15 to 19 year old males, but potentially even more if those referred to the coroner were fully included. In a judicial review of the decision to vaccinate yet younger children, the ONS refused in court to give anonymised details about these deaths. They, admitted that the data they were withholding was statistically significant and I quote they said, the ONS recognises that more work could be undertaken to examine the mortality rates of young people in 2021 and intends to do so once more reliable data are available.How many more extra deaths in 15 to 19 year olds would it take to trigger such work?Surely the ONS should be desperately keen to investigate deaths in young men.Why else have an independent body charged with examining mortality data?Surely the ONS has a responsibility to collect data from the coroners to produce timely information?Let's move on to old people, because most deaths in the old are registered promptly and we do have a better feel for how many older people are dying.Deaths from dementia and Alzheimer's show what we ought to expect.There was a period of high mortality coinciding with COVID and lockdowns, but ever since there have been fewer deaths than expected.After a period of high mortality, we expect, and historically have seen, a period of low mortality because those who have sadly died cannot die again.Those whose deaths were slightly premature because of COVID and lockdowns, died earlier than they otherwise would have.This principle should hold true for every cause of death and every age group, but that's not what we're seeing.Even for the over 85-year-olds, according to the Office of Health Improvement and Disparities, there were 8,000 excess deaths, 4% above the expected levels, for the 12 months starting in July 2020.That includes all of the autumn 2020 wave of COVID, when we had tiering, the second lockdown, and it includes all of the first COVID winter.However, for the year starting July 2022, there have been over 18,000 excess deaths in this age group, 9% above expected levels, more than twice as many in a period when there should have been a deficit.And when deaths from diseases previously associated with old age were actually fewer than expected.Mr Deputy Speaker, I have raised my concerns around NG163 and the use of midazolam and morphine, which may have caused and may still be causing premature deaths in the vulnerable, but that is sadly a debate for another day. There were just over 14,000 excess deaths in the under 65-year-olds before vaccination from April 2020 to the end of March 2021. However, since that time there have been over 21,000 excess deaths, ignoring the registration delay problem, the majority, 58% of these deaths, were not attributed to Covid. We turned society upside down before vaccination for fear of excess deaths from Covid. Today we have substantially more excess deaths, and in younger people, and there's complete and eerie silence, Mr Deputy, Speaker. The evidence is unequivocal. There was a clear stepwise increase in mortality following the vaccine rollout. There was a reprieve in the winter of 2021-22 because there were fewer than expected respiratory deaths, but otherwise the excess has been incessantly at this high level.Ambulance data for England provides another clue. Ambulance calls for life-threatening emergencies were running at a steady 2,000 calls per day until the vaccine rollout. From then it rose to 2,500 daily and calls have stayed at this level since. The surveillance systems designed to spot a safety problem have all flashed red but no one's looking. Claims for personal independence payments for people who've developed a disability and cannot work rocketed with the vaccine rollout and it's, continued to rise ever since. The same was seen in the USA, also started with the vaccine rollout, not with Covid. A study to determine the vaccination status of a sample of such claimants, would be relatively quick and inexpensive to perform, yet nobody seems interested in ascertaining this vital information. Officials have chosen to turn a blind eye to this disturbing, irrefutable and frightening data, much like Nelson did, but for far less honourable reasons. He would be ashamed of us, Mr Deputy Speaker. Furthermore, data that has been used to sing the praises of the vaccines is deeply flawed. Only one COVID-related death was prevented in each of the initial major trials that led to authorisation of the vaccines and that is taking their data entirely at face value, whereas a growing number of inconsistencies and anomalies suggest we ought not to do this.Extrapolating from that means that between 15,000 and 20,000 people had to be injected to prevent a single death from COVID.To prevent a single COVID hospitalisation, over 1,500 people needed to be injected.The trial data showed that 1 in 800 injected people had a serious adverse event, meaning they were hospitalised or had a life-changing or life-threatening condition.The risk of this was twice as high as the chance of preventing a COVID hospitalisation.We're harming 1 in 800 people to supposedly save 1 in 20,000.This is madness.The strongest claims have too often been based on modelling carried out on the basis of flawed assumptions. Where observational studies have been carried out, researchers will correct, for age and comorbidities to make the vaccines look better. However, they never correct for socio-economic or ethnic differences that would make the vaccines look worse. This matters.For example, claims of high mortality in less vaccinated regions in the United States, took no account of the fact that this was the case before the vaccines were rolled out.That is why studies that claim to show the vaccines prevented Covid deaths also showed a marked effect of them preventing non-Covid deaths.The prevention of non-Covid deaths is always a statistical illusion and claims of preventing Covid deaths should not be assumed when that illusion has not been corrected for.And when it is corrected for, the claims of efficacy for the vaccines vanish with it.COVID disproportionately killed people from ethnic minorities and lower socioeconomic groups.During the 2020, during the pandemic, the deaths among the most deprived were up by 23%, compared to 17% for the least deprived. However, since 2022, the pattern has reversed, with 5% excess mortality amongst the most deprived, compared to 7% among the least deprived. These deaths are being caused by something different. In 2020, the excess was highest in the oldest cohorts and there were fewer than expected deaths amongst the younger age groups. But since 2022, the 50 to 64 year old cohort has had the highest excess mortality.Even the youngest age groups are now seeing substantial excess, with a 9% excess in the under 50s since 2022 compared to 5% now in the over 75 group.Despite London being a younger region, the excess in London is only 3%, whereas it is higher in every more heavily vaccinated region of the UK. It should be noted that London is famously the least vaccinated region in the UK by some margin. Studies comparing regions on a larger scale show the same thing. There are studies from the Netherlands, Germany and the whole world each showing that the highest mortality after vaccination was seen in the most heavily vaccinated regions. So we need to ask, what are people dying of? Since 2022, there has been 11% excess in ischemic heart disease deaths and a 16% excess in heart failure deaths. In meantime, cancer deaths, only 1% above expected levels, which is further evidence that it is not simply, some other factor that affects deaths across the board, such as a failing to account for an aging population or a failing NHS. In fact, the excess itself has a seasonality with a peak in the winter months. The fact it returns to baseline levels in summer is a further indication that this is not due to some statistical error or an ageing population alone. Dr Clare Craig from the Heart Group first highlighted a stepwise increase in cardiac arrest calls after the vaccine rollout in May 2021 and Heart have repeatedly raised concerns about the increase in cardiac deaths and they have every reason to be concerned. Four participants in the vaccine group of the Pfizer trial died from cardiac arrest compared to only one in the placebo group. Overall there were 21 deaths in the vaccine group up to March 2021 compared to 17 in the placebo group.And there are serious anomalies about the reporting of the deaths within this trial, with the deaths in the vaccine group taking much longer to report than those in the placebo group.And that's highly suggestive, Mr Deputy Speaker, of a significant bias in what was supposed to be a blinded trial. An Israeli study clearly showed an increase in cardiac hospital attendances, among 18 to 39 year olds that correlated with vaccination, not with COVID. There have now been several postmortem studies demonstrating a causal link between vaccination and coronary artery disease leading to death up to four months after the last dose. And we need to remember that the safety trial was cut short to only two months. So there's no evidence of any vaccine safety beyond that point. The decision to unblind the trials after two months and vaccinate the placebo group is nothing less than a public health scandal. Everyone involved failed in their duty to the truth. But no one cares, Mr Deputy Speaker. The one place that can help us understand exactly what caused this is Australia. Australia had almost no Covid when vaccines were first introduced, making them the perfect control group. The state of South Australia had only a thousand cases of Covid across its whole population by December 2021, before Omicron arrived. What was the impact of vaccination there? For 15 to 44 year olds there was historically 1,300 emergency cardiac presentations a month. With vaccine rollout in the under 50s this rocketed to 2,172 cases in November 2021 in this age group alone, a 67% more than usual. Overall there were 17,900 South Australians who had a cardiac emergency in 2021, compared to only 13,250 in 2018, a 35% increase.It is clearly the vaccine that must be the number one suspect in this and it cannot be dismissed as just a coincidence. Australian mortality overall has increased from early 2021 and the increase is due to cardiac deaths. These excess deaths are not due to an ageing population because there are fewer deaths in the diseases of old age. These deaths are not an effect of COVID because they've happened in places where COVID have not reached and they're not due to low statin prescriptions or under-treated hypertension, as Chris Whitty would suggest, because prescriptions did not change and in any effect would have taken many years and been very small. The prime suspect must be something that was introduced to the population as a whole, something novel. The prime hypothesis must be the experimental COVID-19 vaccines.The ONS published a data set of deaths by vaccinated and unvaccinated. At first glance, it appears to show that the vaccines are safe and effective.However, there were several huge problems with how they presented that data.One was that for the first three-week period after injection, the ONS claimed, there were only a tiny number of deaths.The number the ONS would normally predict to occur in a single week.Where were the deaths from the usual causes? When this was raised, the ONS claimed that the sickest people did not get vaccinated, and therefore people who were taking the vaccination were self-selecting for those least likely to die.Not only is this not the case in the real world, with even hospices heavily vaccinating their residents, but the ONS's own data showed that the proportion of sickest people was equal in the vaccinated and unvaccinated groups.This inevitably raises serious questions about the ONS's data presentation.There were so many problems with the methodology used by the ONS that the Statistics Regulator agreed that the ONS data could not be used to assess vaccine efficacy or safety.That tells you something about the ONS.Consequently, Hart asked the UK Health Security Agency to provide the data they had on people who had died and therefore needed to be removed from their vaccination dataset.This request has been repeatedly refused, with excuses given, including the false claim that anonymising this data will be equivalent to creating it even though there is case law that, anonymization is not considered creation of new data. Mr Deputy Speaker I believe if this data was released it would be damning.That so many lives have been saved by mass vaccination that any amount of harm, suffering and death caused by the vaccines is a price worth paying.They're delusional, Mr Deputy Speaker. The claim of 20 million lives saved is based on now discredited models which assume that Covid waves do not peak without intervention.There have been numerous waves globally that now demonstrate that is not the case, and it was also based on there having been more than half a million lives saved in the UK.That's more than the worst-case scenario predicted at the beginning of the pandemic.For the claim to have been true, the rate at which Covid killed people would have to have taken off dramatically at the beginning of 2021 in the absence of vaccination.This is ludicrous and it bears no relationship to the truth.In the real world, Australia, New Zealand and South Korea had a mortality rate of 400 deaths per million up to the summer of 2022, after they were first hit with Omicron.So how does that compare with the Wuhan strain? France and Europe as a whole had a mortality rate of under 400 deaths per million up to the summer of 2020.Australia, New Zealand and South Korea were all heavily vaccinated before infection.So tell me, where was the benefit?The UK had just over 800 deaths per million up to the summer of 2020. So twice as much.But we know that Omicron is half as deadly as the Wuhan variant.The death rates per million are the same before and after vaccination.So where was the benefits of vaccination?The regulators have failed in their duty to protect the public.They've allowed these novel products to skip crucial safety testing by letting them be described as vaccines.They've failed to insist on safety testing being done in the years since the first temporary emergency authorisation.Even now, no one can tell you how much spike protein is produced on vaccination and for how long.Yet another example of where there is no data for me to share with the House.And when it comes to properly recording deaths due to vaccination, the system's broken.Not a single doctor registered a death from a rare brain clot before doctors in Scandinavia forced the issue and the MHRA acknowledged the problem.Only then did these deaths start to be certified by doctors in the UK.It turns out that doctors were waiting for permission from the regulator and the regulators were waiting to be alerted by the doctors.This is a lethal circularity.Furthermore, coroners have written Regulation 28 reports highlighting deaths from vaccination to prevent further deaths, yet the MHRA said in a response to an FOI that they had not received any of them.The system we have in place is clearly not functioning to protect the public.The regulators also missed the fact that the Pfizer trial, in the Pfizer trial, the vaccine was made for the trial participants in a highly controlled environment, in stark contrast to the manufacturing process used for the public rollout, which was based on a completely different technology.And just over 200 participants were given the same product that was given to the public.But not only was the data from these people never compared to those in the trial for efficacy and safety, But the MHRA have admitted that they dropped the requirement to provide the data.That means there was never a trial on the Pfizer product that was actually rolled out to the public.And that product has never been compared to the product that was actually trialled.The vaccine mass production processes use vats of Escherichia coli and present a risk of contamination with DNA from the bacteria as well as bacterial cell walls which can, cause dangerous reactions.This is not theoretical, Mr Deputy Speaker, this is now sound evidence that has been replicated by several labs across the world, and the mRNA vaccines were contaminated by DNA which far exceeded the usual permissible levels.Given that this DNA is enclosed in the lipid nanoparticle delivery system, it is arguable that even the permissible levels have been far too high.These lipid nanoparticles are known to enter every organ of the body, as well as this potentially causing some of the acute adverse reactions seen, there is a serious risk that this foreign bacterial DNA is inserting itself into human DNA. Will anybody investigate? No, they won't.I'll give way on that point. 
(Danny Kruger MP)
I am conscious that time is tight. I recognise that the hon. Gentleman is making a very powerful case. Does he agree that the Government should be looking at this properly and should commission of review into the excess deaths, partly so that we can reassure our constituents that the case he's making is not in fact valid and that the vaccines have no cause behind these excess deaths.(Andrew Bridgen MP)
I thank the Honourable Gentleman for his support on this topic and of course that is what exactly any responsible government should do. I wrote to the Prime Minister on the 7th August 2023 with all the evidence of this but sadly Mr Deputy Speaker I still await a response.What will it take to stop these products? Their complete failure to stop infection was not enough and we all know plenty of vaccinated people who have caught and spread Covid. The, mutation of the virus to a weaker variant, Omicron, that wasn't enough. The increasing evidence of the serious harms to those of us that were vaccinated. That's not enough.And now the cardiac deaths and the deaths of young people is apparently not enough either.It's high time these experimental vaccines were suspended and a full investigation into the harms they've caused initiated. History will be a harsh judge if we don't start using evidence-based medicine. We need to return to basic science, basic ethics immediately, which means listening to all voices and investigating all concerns.In conclusion, Mr Deputy Speaker, the experimental Covid-19 vaccines are not safe and they're not effective. Despite there only being limited interest in the chamber from colleagues, and I'm very grateful for those who have attended, we can see from the public gallery there is considerable public interest. I would implore all members of the House, present and those not.Support calls for a three-hour debate on this important issue. And Mr Deputy Speaker, this might be the first debate on excess deaths in our Parliament. Indeed, it might be the first debate on excess deaths in the world, but very sadly I promise you won't be the last.(Parliament Square Speech Andrew Bridgen MP)
But without further ado let's welcome to the stage Mr Andrew Bridgen.Thank you ladies and gentlemen, thank you for coming down here to support the debate today, and thank you for supporting me and the cause.More? I just spoke for 25 minutes. Blood. It's been quite a week.Start of the week, get attacked from behind by a blunt instrument.But what an ending to this week. We have made history today. Nine months, more than 20 refused attempts to get a debate on excess deaths, the first debate on excess deaths in the UK, Parliament, the first proper debate on excess deaths in the world and I promise you, I absolutely promise you, it won't be the last. We will get a three hour debate in the next few weeks now on excess deaths.We've got two democracies under challenge all over the world. We're hanging over and using what we've got to make sure we get our message out there. On Tuesday next week I'm, I'm bringing in a bill, a ten minute rule motion, a bill called the Sovereignty and Referendums Bill. I'm going to put it to the House. That would stop, if we could bring that in, that would stop the WHO power grab of the people of the UK.I've been invited to speak as well next week on Zoom to some African political leaders, to try and persuade them to resist the WHO power grab, because it doesn't matter where we break this, we can break it in the UK, we can break it anywhere else in the world.This is a worldwide problem, an absolute assault on humanity, and we've all got to stick together.I've been an MP for nearly 14 years. I've given a lot of speeches in that chamber.That I was a bit nervous today because I knew there was never going to be a more important, speech I've ever given.I've never been in a more important speech than the one I was giving today.Can't you hear at the back?Turn up the PA. So, here we go. There was never going to be a more important speech than the one I was giving today, and, even after 14 years as an MP I was a little bit nervous standing up.But what really got me was, OK, there wasn't as many MPs in the chamber as I'd liked, but, the public gallery was full and the support from there was absolutely incredible.And they always say the politicians, that place over there, is in the Westminster bubble.We are going to burst the bubble in Westminster. Absolutely.Ultimately, my message to send you away with is that your determination, your cheerfulness, your resilience will deliver us victory. Thank you very much for coming today.
(Hearts of Oak)Andrew, we've just been in on the debate on vaccine harms. Tell us about the process, because it's been a long, hard battle, which you talk about in the chamber.
(Andrew Bridgen MP)
Yeah, I've been putting in since January every week for a backbench business debate.That was refused. I've put in for a Westminster Hall debate on a weekly basis and I've put in for an adjournment debate. Eventually, after nine months and more than 20 rejections, we had the first debate on excess deaths in the UK Parliament.I think it's the first one in the world, but I promise you it won't be the last.I think the dozen or so MPs who attended today's debate, I'm hoping I'll be able to get a get them to sign up that we can have a three-hour debate well before Christmas and then it's going to grow from there because ultimately the data that I imparted in the chamber today, it's all backed up with the science. Every MP is going to be getting a copy of my Hansard speech and the full data pack of all the evidence that backs up everything I've said. There's no excuses now. So this goes to law because it's a no-brainer really to have these conversations because we've all seen excess deaths across Europe.Ask yourself in a democracy why don't they want to have a conversation about anything? I mean, I'm aware that in the Australian Senate four or five senators asked for a debate on excess deaths they ended up having a debate on whether you should have a debate on excess deaths and the consensus of the Australian Senate was they didn't want to have a debate on excess deaths.Well, I mean that's a red flag straight away, isn't it?
(Hearts of Oak)
Last question, I assume you believe that there are some MPs that can be won over, that public figures have kept quiet a further reputation, which you don't care about and you've walked away from the party.Tell us about those who you think you can possibly win over and then support you publicly on this.
(Andrew Bridgen MP)
Well certainly some of the ones that were there today, I know of some who weren't there today who will support calling for a much bigger debate on excess deaths.And ultimately it's the pressure of the electorate, the people, and you could see that although the House wasn't very full of members, the public gallery was full and that shows you that public opinion is they want this issue debated, they want to know what's gone on, and it's their right to have it happen.And that will become an irresistible force for politicians. That's how democracy works.(Hearts of Oak)
Well, we've just had the debate in Parliament, a debate that I actually, to be honest, didn't think would happen. I thought that it would be stopped and held off.Only one member of 650 MPs in that place was willing to stand up and have this conversation, on vaccine arms as on excess deaths. He spoke for 24 minutes, presented everything in a measured calm manner, no emotion. One of the many things Andrew is great at, that he just lays it out gently, softly, step by step, that he doesn't raise the hyperball that maybe some others will rise to. And he laid it out in 24 minutes. And of course, the government's response is, Well, excess deaths are other factors, lifestyle factors, like smoking, like cholesterol, even fatty foods.So the government are blaming all the excess deaths over a period of a sudden spike in, smoking and a spike in eating fish and chips.That's what the government. Wow.Like ostriches with their heads in the sand. So Andrew presented his figures. The great thing is that we expect now there to be a much longer debate in Parliament. That was a short motion, a short debate, a 30 minute session. Andrew is hopeful that this can now go to a three hour fuller debate and that will be really interesting to see whether that gets tabled and whether it actually does go ahead and I would like to see other MPs backing Andrew and I think the more he speaks the more courage they will get. Andrew is someone with courage, with conviction, with a backbone, with a determination to speak truth and often, that is a rarity across there, it really is, really people want to, keep their heads down, they want to climb up the greasy pole and attain those higher levels of political achievement. So we obviously will watch this, follow Andrew. He is a hero. There's no one else in that Parliament across the way that's a hero like Andrew. And what else? I mean, it's the hill that he's chosen to die on. It's the hill that he has chosen to fight on. It's the hill that he has lost his career in the Conservative Party. And why? Because people are dying and no one is talking about it. What more important issue is there apart from life and death? And if something has been introduced and it's killing people, you need to look at it, you need to address, you need to understand it, to analyse it and then see what you do with that. So we have won here amongst 650. We will follow this and watch this closely as we see this move towards a fuller debate in Parliament and certainly my hope and prayer is that many other MPs stand up and speak, and that this happens across the world. We've seen a debate happening, I know, in the German Parliament with the AfD. I know we've seen debates happening in the Australian Parliament and the One Nation Party with Pauline and Malcolm are doing a fantastic job there.And here is one individual. Obviously, the Reclaim Party is behind Andrew Bridgen. He's a member of that of Lawrence Fox's party. And Andrew will continue to speak. And as he speaks, I believe that we will see ripple effects across the world because the world watches what happens here.This is called the mother of parliament and I believe that as Andrew continues to speak and continues to speak within this chamber that we will see other parliaments around the world address this issue.But this doesn't affect future debt, I mean, the damage is done, the deaths are happening.But at least you have to hold people to account.And for me, this is about justice. It's about honesty.It's about clarity. It is about truth, which is something that's been in short supply over the last couple of years during the COVID tyranny.So keep an eye on this space for Andrew to continue to push this.And when that longer three hour debate does happen, we will be here reporting on us and reporting on those who have come out to support Andrew today. Matt Le Tissier was here, Le God was in the chamber watching Andrew, Mike Yeadon was here speaking, Fiona Hine has done a great job in pulling people together. There is massive support and I think the parliamentarians in the government want individuals like Andrew Bridgton to feel they are alone, but they are not alone. They are backed by masses of the population and today was a small subset, of that, but Andrew knows he is not alone. Make sure and post this video, let others see what has happened here in the UK Parliament and have hope, because I think often that's also in short supply and I think what has happened today is a day of hope, is a day of reckoning and is a day of moving forward to actually presenting the truth and holding people to account.

The Week According To . . . Dr Niall McCrae

Dr Niall McCrae is back with us for our weekend look through some of the news stories, articles and social media posts we just couldn't ignore! Expect straight talking and free speech in abundance as we discuss...- Excess Deaths Debate, Andrew Bridgen MP and why no one cares.- Matt Le Tissier and Dr Mike Yeadon turn up in Parliament Square in support of Andrew Bridgen.- Amazon trials creepy humanoid robots with glowing eyes to see if they can help staff in  their warehouses.- Grooming Gangs UK: 17 despicable Rotherham nonces jailed as part of Operation Stovewood child abuse probe.- Nearly 70 MPs demand schools be forced to publish details of sex education lessons.- The reach and power of the World Economic Forum.- America’s “justice” system in 2023: 7 years in prison for posting memes vs 180 days for raping kids?- Elon Musk, owner of social media platform X, is considering removing the service from Europe in response to a new internet platform regulation in the region.- Allahu Akbar at Downing Street, the heart of British government.  Dr Niall McCrae is an officer for ‘Covid coercion in the workplace’ for the Workers of England trade union, the only union standing up for workers' rights and freedoms in the UK during these troubled times.From 2010 to 2021 he was a senior lecturer in mental health at King’s College London, and he continues to write on mental health matters.He was also a senior researcher for David Kurten and Peter Whittle on the London Assembly.His publications include several books including ‘Moralitis: a Cultural Virus’ (with Robert Oulds), ‘The Moon and Madness’, ‘Echoes from the Corridors’ (with Peter Nolan) and ‘The Year of the Bat’ (with MLR Smith).He is a regular contributor to Unity News Network, Gateway Pundit, Lockdown Sceptics, The Salisbury Review and The Light.
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Originally broadcast live 21.10.23
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Links to this weeks talking points...No one careshttps://x.com/wolsned/status/1715367362780631313?s=20Le Tissier and Yeadon https://x.com/HeartsofOakUK/status/1715397021245247894?s=20Amazon https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/amazon-robot-new-digit-agility-b2432261.htmlGrooming Gangshttps://www.thestar.co.uk/news/crime/17-sex-offenders-jailed-as-part-of-historic-child-abuse-probe-4379778Sex educationhttps://web.archive.org/web/20231016111732/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/10/16/tory-mps-demand-schools-publish-sex-ed-lessons-rishi-sunak/ WEF https://x.com/ANTlWEF/status/1715460340530696377?s=20US Justicehttps://x.com/iamyesyouareno/status/1714927285835383279?s=20Musk https://www.reuters.com/technology/musk-considers-removing-x-platform-europe-over-eu-law-insider-2023-10-18/Downing Streethttps://x.com/DVATW/status/1714746119287156906?s=20

Paul McGowan - Controlled Narrative: Has the Art World Been Captured?

Paul McGowan has strong common sense conservative views which are simply not allowed in the art world. His willingness to share his thoughts led to him being cancelled on different occasions. He returns to Hearts of Oak for a wide ranging conversation on topics like climate change and free speech. It all fits under the realisation that art is no longer about free thinking and opinion but about a controlled narrative driven by governments and institutions. 
Paul McGowan studied art at Falmouth, Winchester and Bath school of Art. His work has often created controversy and has been regularly featured in the press all around the world.He established himself as a fashion designer at a young age; when he was 20 he became the youngest designer to ever sell a collection to fashion house Browns, and went on to work for a variety of well-known fashion industry names, including Gianni Versace. During his formative years at Art School, he had his first exhibition in St Ives, and won the Tate Magazine Award. Since this time he has continued to develop a strong career for his distinctive - and often political - artworks, recognised locally in 2008 when he was appointed as artist in residence at the Eden Project.His work is collected across the world and he is a serial collaborator, often producing works released under different identities.Paul's works often provoke strong reactions. Perhaps the most unexpected was when in 2010 police in riot gear were sent to raid a central London gallery after one of the artworks - a fake bomb in the window - caused reports of a 'suspicious' device.His current work has been exhibited extensively in the UK as well as abroad.
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Interview recorded 17.10.23
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Francis O’Neill - The Rise of the Yellow Boards: Waking up the Public One Message at a Time

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Today we delve into grass-roots activism, we have all seen the yellow boards pop up at road junctions across the country, joined with a cacophony of car horns in support. When online censorship tries to curtail the flow of information, it's time to go back to the traditional methods. Billboards. Francis O'Neill has become known to many of us for his high profile involvement with this new/old medium. He joins Hearts of Oak to discuss why he got involved and what the response has been from the public. The concern has moved on from forced jabs to full covid tyranny and the threat of a cashless society, with control through surveillance now the biggest threat we face to our freedom.
Connect with Francis and The Yellow Boards Movement...X:                        https://x.com/FrancisxONeill?s=20                           https://x.com/YellowBoards?s=20SUBSTACK:       https://francisoneill.substack.com/LINKS:                https://heylink.me/yellow_boards/
Interview recorded 26.9.23
*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.
Check out his art https://theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com/ and follow him on GETTR https://gettr.com/user/BoschFawstin and Twitter https://twitter.com/TheBoschFawstin?s=20 
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(Hearts of Oak)
Francis O'Neill. It is wonderful to have you with us.Thanks so much for giving us your time today.
(Francis O’Neill)
Thank you, Peter. Thanks for having me. 
Great. And obviously, wanted you on, seen many of the videos, pictures, the whole thing with yellow boards, trying to get a different narrative, I guess, to what the mainstream put out.But people can find you.There is your Twitter handle @FrancisXONeill. Also, the sub stack, the links are in the description and they're also on your Twitter page.Francis, maybe before we get into what's been happening, how you've been getting a message out, the response from the public, what are the issues which have become a freedom encompasses a lot and it's become much wider than anti-Covid tyranny.Do you just want to maybe introduce yourselves, because we have probably two-thirds US audience actually now, and they may not be aware of who you are.Do that first and then we'll jump onto the yellow boards.Well, I'm actually a self-employed artist and I was teaching just life drawing and portrait painting.I was living in Oxford and making a living doing that. I was teaching from a studio, which I rented as part of a complex with other artists.And that's how I was getting by. I was doing jobs, sometimes teaching in other locations, but I'd become aware that things weren't as presented in the mainstream media due to 9-11.I had questions on the day, but I wasn't really woken up on the day.I just thought that would be resolved by investigations and so on.But as you know, with the prevalence of the internet, I mean, you start to become aware that there are alternative theories out there.I started to look into that quite deeply. And once I became aware that the official story of 9-11 was not true, I started to question other aspects of our society, our history, the way we were being told things, the way information was being presented to us.And you start to question the sources.And so I became, I underwent the process that a lot of people have gone on since 2020. I underwent it probably around from 2003 onwards. And so when 2020 came, I was already aware that this wasn't going to be true. This was another ruse. This was another means of control. It was part of a larger agenda, which we now know is called Agenda 2030, or it's the World Economic Forum calls it The Great Reset, it is a means of removing our wealth and our, sovereignty to control us.From the very beginning in 2020, I thought something needs to be done about this.I also felt a sense of guilt that the 9-11 truth movement, which I had been a part of, had not done enough.I remember the first day, I was waiting for people to arrive for my class and they did not come.This was before the lockdown, a few days before it was officially announced.I thought, oh my gosh, they are all falling for it, we haven't done enough, I was in a classroom and there was nobody here.I was waiting for people to turn up.I thought this is going to be bad. I had a sense of dread and worry on that day.I was thinking they were really falling for it. I started to be very active very quickly.I emailed everybody I knew on my mailing list for my classes.Everybody, my peers who shared the studios with me.I made my position known, which may have been a mistake professionally and it cost me later because people thought you were spreading the plague, they knew you weren't going to be compliant and so I lost, I was actually forced out of the studio mid-2021 because I wasn't complying with any regulations. But I also got out on the street within about a month. I started making videos, I was making posts routinely anyway about the truth movement. But I'd say it was about April, we started to be, I started to do the first outreach in the streets. I started making videos more to wake up my friends and family and they did actually work, I did get through to my family, they didn't actually, I never like to speak about what they didn't do, but you know what, there was an element of success there, I felt.And so, but in short, I became active.I eventually left Oxford because I'd lost my place of work, which was where I was making my income from I lost that studio because I was forced out in 2021.So I ended up in London in 2022, and I became attached to the Yellow Boards, which is what you were referencing there.And this group, the yellow boards, actually I saw first happening in New Zealand.There was a group of people along a street, a video went round, probably around 2021, late 2021, of people questioning the vaccines and they had yellow boards with slogans on them, like every 50 yards along a stretch of road.And the questions would develop as the driver went past and someone had filmed it from a car.Now this took on in England and also with the rebels, we have a thing called rebels in roundabouts, which started in Stockport.One of the guys there actually said that he'd seen my videos from Oxford and it had helped sort ofinspire or encourage him to get out and do that sort of thing. One of the guys who set up the Rebels and Roundabouts. But Yellow Boards is not my invention, it's something that I've, got involved with that was already ongoing by the time I arrived in London in 2022 and so what's happened is sort of, I'm not really an organiser or a maker of flyers and boards and things like like that. So there are very hardworking people who do this.And I seem to be the one who, like an unofficial spokesperson, I'll speak to the camera and I'll speak to people. If someone comes to ask a couple of questions, they'll say, go and speak to him.They'll talk to you. And so that's my role. I just talk to people and present the information as best I can.
So your name keeps coming up. Francis O'Neill, you know, yellow boards. Oh, yes.So I want to, there are a couple of things I want to pick up on that, But let me just play some of the clips from around London, just to give the viewers and listeners an idea of what happens in case they have not seen it.So let me just, the first one is, the first one, actually, is Shepherds Bush, I think.Let me see. First one, Shepherds Bush, which I know very well, just around the corner in West London.Let me just play this little clip. And then there are two others from London.(cars beeping in support of yellow boards)So that was Shepherd. Let me do just another one up in Harrow. Shepherd Bush is West London.Harrow is kind of North West and it's the same thing and I want to ask you about kind of that response.You obviously hear the horns beeping on the cars, but here is North West London and Harrow.(Music and cars beeping in support of the yellow boards)We could go on, let me, we could show a lot of them. Can I ask you, when you went out, what were you expecting?We are, many people watching, they'll be engaged in trying to change opinion of those around them.You jump out and do something in the wide world with the public.Tell us about kind of the response you've got and obviously we hear the horns beeping.Is that a regular occurrence?When I first started going out in Oxford in 2020, the response was different.We are talking about lockdowns and people were very hostile.Oxford is like an academic town and has a lot of the research facilities like the Jenner Institute.With regard to that, initially it was very hostile but there were people who were very grateful.Thank God there is somebody who is out there on the street.I felt all alone and I didn't realise other people thought like me.You tend to get a range of those emotions.
And we do different subjects obviously, so in London with the yellow boards, the ULEZ , obviously with car drivers, is almost universally unpopular.It is restricting car movement and so on. I think it is also serving to waken people up to the wider problems and agendas I mentioned earlier.With the ULEZ, when we put ULEZ boards up, you tend to get a good response.The good thing about it is, not there are some people who will disagree and they may drive cars because they still think it's in their best interest to have less pollution or whatever the tagline is it seems to vary which I think is very strange as well sometimes it's about an environmental emergency and sometimes it's about children with asthma and obviously it could be about both in theory if it's about clean air, but it's not about clean air because actually if you test the air in London in most places it's very very clean and where they do have hot spots they're not doing anything particular to to solve the pollution in those areas and also on the tube it's up to it's, different studies have said different things like it's 40 times dirtier and people tested maybe have made it higher in terms of the contaminants in the air on the tube so they don't do anything about the air on the tube which is where they're trying to push everybody to go into the public transport but they're concerned about the air where it's actually well within safety standards above ground. And I think people are wise to that. I think people in the cars, they've cottoned on to the fact that this isn't true. So when we go out now, particularly, and it has increased over the time I've been involved, and also obviously since the time it started, but as I say, I can speak from my experience from, 2022, probably mid-2022 in London, even the ULEZ, now it's deafening. You go out there, You get constant car horns.We are not always filming. Sometimes you miss the bits where it is ridiculous, the noise and the cacophony of cars going past.It depends on the location. Sometimes you go to a location that is more muted.And you get more conflicts of opinions where people think that...It is usually people...We are always a bit wary of the cyclists because they sometimes hurl abuse at you.You often get people going past on the bikes as well, tinkling bells going, as in because they don't have a horn obviously on the bicycle so they'll show their support tinkling the bell so so you just can never be sure who's going to say what to you, but the pedestrians...Can be interesting and say things to you. And then you get into dialogue.And sometimes people in the cars will say things like, or like they'll say you're crazy, or I had a guy waving his asthma inhaler at me today. You don't care about me.And I'm saying, well, it's not about air. And I try to explain the things I've just mentioned about how the air is worse on the tube.And when you test the air, it's fine. And it's about control.And I try and make them aware of that.But we all try to be as non-confrontational as possible, but sometimes we get told we're killing children, which is ironic if you actually look at what's going on in the world at the moment.So we're the ones killing children. So yeah, so mixed responses, but overwhelmingly positive about the ULEZ.And I'd actually say we went to the COVID inquiry and we, when Abi Roberts got arrested.And I was surprised given the varied reactions we'd had to COVID lockdown and vaccination outreach that we'd done before, the overwhelming- 
Tell us about it, because obviously it started, all of this has started in a pushback towards restrictions under the COVID tyranny.And I know you were there, I know Abi was arrested. We had her on just after, and her talking about how you were waiting outside, waiting for her.And I think you realize who your friends are in situations like that, when you get arrested.Where's everyone gone?Oh, they've gone home, and you waited outside. And that camaraderie, that connection, that networking, that standing shoulder to shoulder has been something that I've seen turning develop over the last three years.I met Abi at one of the marches in London where they have these worldwide rallies for freedom and Abi is a regular at those and I had a mutual friend and said, Abi is going you need to say hello to her.So I said hello to her and you never know if you're going to hit it off with people or whatever.Abi and I were interviewed by somebody came up and interviewed us and we just had like a sort of rapport and it was funny, we were making a bit of a joke with the interviewer and things like this.And so we hit it off and we had a nice conversation and then stayed in touch and just said, like, I'm going down to the COVID inquiry.And I knew that she'd be interested because Matt Hancock, who was our health secretary during the lockdown, was gonna be there that day. And she said, okay, I'll come down.And so she came down to hold a yellow board and make her presence and her opinions known.And she only lasted half an hour. 
I understand what you mean when you say Abi making her opinions known, it's beautiful.
She wasn't actually that bad, I mean I know that she's very, as in from the police or the establishment perspective, she wasn't that bad, it was just kind of hilarious that she probably lasted about 23 minutes and we had a half-past eight in the morning or something like this in there.And anyway, so she, we walked behind a camera with the yellow board, and we'd been told not to encroach on this space where the camera's filmed.The previous time we'd been at the COVID inquiry, which was about a week before, a few days before.And Abi hadn't been there, so she didn't know, so she just marched in behind and held a board behind one of the reporter's heads. And actually it was a station that she'd previously worked for, the GB News one.So I followed her in and put a board up there and just thought we'll stay here until they move us on.And we did it with Sky TV as well. And then, uh...And she said a few things to the ranks of cameramen and photographers.What have you all been doing? Why are you not reporting anything?And she might have used the F word a couple of times, but nothing too severe, nothing they hadn't heard.And then this guy came out and she's told the story anyway.But yeah, it's on film, you can see. So when she started, when they came to arrest her, I just thought I need to keep my mouth shut because I'll speak over the dialogue and I'll just film it and get a really good footage of it.But then I didn't know whether to put the footage out in case they didn't have any incriminating evidence against her. So I had to sit on the footage until she was released. And then she, there was one moment where I thought the police reacted, I haven't mentioned this before, so in the footage you can see the police, one guy's already told her she's arrested and the others are trying to reason with her, so it didn't really make sense, and they seem to be trying to calm her down and she was saying, do you see this? And she showed one of the badges that she wears for Trudy and whose son committed suicide during lockdown and she was saying, you know, and they, the police, in my first impression of it seemed to recoil at that point.And I thought, oh, wow, that was powerful.Like I was filming it and then, and they seemed to, but when I watched the footage back, I think what actually happened though, he thought was, we can't reason with this woman.They gave up trying to like mollify her and settle it down and stuff.That, cause I thought at first it was the power cause that's what it affected me.And I thought, oh wow, that's got to have an effect.But actually I don't think that's what happened. I just thought that she's, we're going to have to, but they'd already arrested her. So, and then they arrested her and they took her away.And I felt a bit, because I'd invited her down, kind of knowing that she'd provide a bit of fireworks, right?So I felt a bit like, what's the guy? Fagin or something, getting her into trouble.And then she was in the cell. So I felt kind of a responsibility as well.And also thought that if I was in the cell and everyone just went home, I'd come out thinking that's not very nice.So I went down to wait. And also she told me it's only going to be a couple of hours because she'd been given that suggestion.And then as I started to wait and it started to get into the evening, she'd been there 12 hours, the police started to say to me, listen, mate, you're going to have a long wait.And they'd obviously changed the way in which they were going to process her because instead of it just being a basic, you know, you've done a minor misdemeanor, let's get you in and out.They just decided to be awkward and hold her in and charge her in a different way.And they let her out at three in the morning just to be, I think, just to make it unpleasant and uncomfortable for her.So the police became aware of this and rather kindly actually said to me, like, you'll be waiting a long time mate, you should probably go home, she's not going to be let out till the morning. So I had to go and that's what happened.Obviously the whole COVID, well COVID whitewash, not inquiry, but tell us how, because whenever you've been out with boards, it's one thing going with those big demos, where it's that spirit of togetherness and everyone is 100% awake, where you go out on the streets, you kind of expect it to be it to be different. I'm sure going to those demos, I'm sure you've got a lot of pat on the backs and a lot of kind of well done and realizing that people appreciate how you're putting the message out. 
Well on the bigger demos, you're amongst a lot of people so there's the strength in numbers and as you say that you can have a chat with people who think the same as you, you still get some people even on the bigger ones if you're on the edges on the peripheries of a group of people marching down a street where people will pull faces or say get lost or shout some abuse at you. You occasionally get that, not normally though because of the numbers because they're slightly intimidated by the numbers. People tend to keep their opinions to themselves when they see thousands of people marching down.You are a little bit more exposed if you go out with a board but generally speaking it's okay.I mean, one of the, connected with the Yellow Boards, I should say, in Stockport, a thing called Rebels on Roundabouts started up at one of the roundabouts in Stockport near Manchester in the north of England.And I went down there a few times, because that's where I'm originally from.And we had eggs thrown at us from a passing car and things like that.And that occasionally happens.But to be honest, most of the time, I don't feel like I'm under threat.I know that sometimes people say nasty things to you and that might, other people might bother them more.I don't really, it doesn't really faze me, I don't think, I don't think it really fazes the people who do it.If people, a lot of the time people are not very brave when they confront you, for example, people will sit there in the car at the lights and when the lights change they'll shout something just as they're going, or the same with a cyclist, so, or if they're passing at speed, so sometimes it's quite funny when they say something to you and then the lights change and they have to stop and then they they sit there like that, or me, cause you can come and say something back then.So yeah, there's not, I don't know. It's not something that concerns me really.Like I think you are going to get people who disagree with you.And I would say my goal and the goal of people there is not to have a confrontation.So if somebody's, sometimes you get people really angry saying you're killing children, you know, it's disgusting.And because we say with ULEZ, they see that as saving children with asthma.Or that's what they've been primed to think.And we say, well, can you explain that? Like, or just, I just try and, or if someone's so in such a heightened state, I just let them carry on walking, or if I can, I'll try and reason with them and bring them down because I learned very quickly, that in 2020, if you go out there, if I go out there and I'm angry, which I was initially in 2020, and start shouting and raving.It's not gonna get anyone on your side.And that's the goal, really. So for the most part, we're there to have reasoned discussion and to share our views and to make people at the very, even if we can't change their minds, obviously, and sometimes you can't do that instantly, is just to make people think, realize that we're not crazy, that we are coming from a reasoned position.And I think that's very important. So we're not, because obviously, they'll say to you, you're a right wing conspiracy theorist, or Sadiq Khan said it.He said, like, you're COVID deniers, vaccine deniers, Tories, all this stuff, like, all the things could think of to say that might be words to lodge in people's brains but the interesting I think I've got a line that I always think of that people, everybody thinks that it's everybody else who falls for propaganda and that includes me so I'll think like oh someone else has fallen, has been brainwashed by the state propaganda but they'll think of me I've fallen for right wing propaganda it's always everybody else who falls for propaganda.It's never me or you know the person thinking so I think that if you can make people aware that there is a different way of looking at things and at least consider it even if you reject it. I think that's a that's all we can do with the yellow boards is to make that we're trying to circumvent mainstream, no mainstream media has censored our point of view so we're trying to find a route to introduce that other point of view in a respectable way to the public. 
Yeah it is about making people think and not having that argument because that doesn't actually benefit you. But what about you because I mean it's like a political campaign, I mean I remember back in the days of UKIP, knocking doors, flyers, non-stop and it's about getting the message out and you'd see billboards about different political parties and what you're doing, it's kind of getting the message out, it's PR but it's kind of that field. I mean, how did you, are you, have you been involved politically? Are you a massively outgoing person?Because people think I wouldn't want to stand on a road junction with a huge sign. I mean, people want to keep their thoughts to themselves, not to display it to the world. What was that like. Did you have anything politically background that you had engaged a lot with people on different issues?Not all and I as I say, I started online with the 9-11 truth movement and I used to feel like an imperative. So once you become aware that that say for example, there's a great injustice going on like the war in Iraq or Afghanistan. The removal of our freedoms as well, even if you want to be selfish about it with the in the United States it was the Patriot Act and here we had the terrorism act and you could see the trajectory of of the state machinations then you think well if I do nothing that's going to continue and this isn't going to end well even from a selfish point it's not going to end well for me but I also felt like if I was in Iraq or Afghanistan or any of the other countries affected by the 9-11 wars which have been raging for 20 years so it's like northern Pakistan there's places in Africa and every that being bombed and so and also you've got Syria, Libya, Yemen all these places that have been affected I thought well I'd want someone to at least make a few memes on my behalf in the country.So that's what I used to do. I used to try and make posts and raise awareness and use the internet as many of us are now doing since 2020.So that's what I saw as something that I could contribute. And also I saw myself as being someone who could translate some of the dense material into the language or into the format, like a meme that people would engage with.So I'm not like an academic or a scientist or anything like that.I can read that stuff and think what is the kernel of truth we need to pass on and put that into that format.That is what I thought I could contribute to that movement.In 2020 I tried to do the same thing. That would be the role that I was trying to fulfil.So in terms of getting in the street and presenting that thing, I also think I have done a bit of teaching with the art I was talking about.So you get used to presenting information in front of people and being questioned and you know I've taught in front of kids, I've on in front of pensioners and so I'm not that uncomfortable speaking if I feel like I'm informed, in front of people.So there's that side of it. So maybe I was prepared to do a bit of that.But even if we're just holding a board, I think that was, I read, I think, around 2020 about if you're doing a revolutionary movement, you have to have something that other people can do.So like when we were doing the gazebo, one of the mistakes we probably made is that we would speak to and challenge the police and argue with the police and argue with the public.But not everybody feels that they want to do that. Nobody wants a confrontation really in their life.If you can go through your morning without arguing with the police, you'll probably take that, right? So that's not something that everybody can do and engage what wants to do.But if you do it much simpler, it's more passive. It's just like, you can use a yellow board.Everybody can pretend to be a signpost for a couple of hours, right?Everyone can just be like, oh yeah, I'm just holding this in the street.And it's a more passive way. And the cars are going past. Usually you can stand in a place where the cars aren't gonna stop and they're just whizzed by you and they'll just read your placard.And then you don't actually have to have an argument or a fight, you can just say, there's my board.So it's something that everybody can do is hold a board.You don't have to have read the scientific papers. You don't have to have, you know, you're not like you're arguing with Dr. Fauci or Matt Hancock or something.You can just hold the board and say, where's my freedom going or something.So there's that side of it. And that's something that everyone can do.It's easily replicable. And so you can do that. So the yellow boards have been sprouting up.And I think that's the key. got to give something that everybody can do. So it's that kind of thing. It's just making sure that we get the message out, that's the key thing. And it's not about really presenting to an audience, like in the sense of verbally.
And something I've certainly seen is nothing is from the top. I think that's why the police, government, the media are so concerned about free thinking because it's a grassroots thing. You see the yellow boards popping up everywhere, some are organized and some are not and you see the change but I'm intrigued with how people came together on the issue of, against COVID here and the issue of freedom but then you realize that encompasses so much and let me actually, let me play one of the videos of you speaking on, is this the use cash one or is this ULEZ? Let me play it and then we can touch on kind of those other issues which have come up and I think as people have thought more about issues over the last three years they're more open to this but let me play this first one. 
(Video of Francis plays)
Okay we're here today at Harrow Road and if we take things in reverse and just look at things slightly differently and wonder if there was, in the hypothetical situation, that there was a plan or an agenda to deprive us of our freedoms and to change the way we live.What would it look like and how would they encourage us to consent to it? So, if they can't do it by force because maybe there's a smaller number, they would have to get us to believe that it was for our own good and in our best interest. So, they might then tell us, I don't know, like the end of the world's coming unless you all do what we say, like, you know, like the sky is going to fall on your head or something along those lines.And then they might start to say, what we need for you to do is to use less resources and maybe, Maybe not have a car, maybe lock yourself in your home, maybe we'll bring about some measures so that all independent traders lose their small businesses, so that then you're in the sort of grasp of the state, whether it's because you're on the dole, on a universal credit or whether you're working for corporations which seem to have a lot of control in our country at the moment.So, with that in mind then, people often ask me what it is that they should do, like when, we talk to them about the ULEZ, they say, what should we do about it?Now, what guys say to me with their vans, they say, I'm losing my van, I'm going to have to give up my van and because I've not got my van, I won't be able to work, in which, case I'd be in that situation I've just described.So that's a real problem. So, if you then think about it, there's a guy called Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who ended up in a labour camp in Russia, and old Alexander said, I wish we'd have got out there quicker when they first came to us with iron bars and pots and pans and done something about it.Now, I'm not suggesting you do that, but if you're going to lose your van anyway, and you're going to lose your job anyway, and be in state control, what other options have you got?Some people are using the options of taking down the cameras, and some people are not paying the fines. In fact, millions of pounds apparently are unpaid.Now, if everybody who beeps the horn, as you hear there, did not pay and refused to pay, this scheme would not work and we have to consider that if we're all going to lose everything anyway.I think that's a good point, how people respond. That is on ULEZ, which is obviously the ultra low emission zone, which is in London and attacking the motorist. I think I saw a meme somewhere that someone said, we're told that cars, your older vehicle is going to kill children, but if you pay $12.50 it's okay, the child is saved. It's not about money. But tell us about, because there's been massive support for, against the ULEZ with people cutting down cameras. I didn't think I would see that in Britain, that level of opposition and anger and law breaking.I thought, wow, something's broken in the spirit. It's not just the British shrugging their shoulders, which we think we saw in lockdown, but actually people are doing something. I mean, tell us about that in the response and how you see that push back on the attack on the motorists.Okay, so I want to just say something that I should have said in response to your last question, but I forgot, but you're asking me about the yellow boards and what we're doing that is that what we're trying to do with the yellow boards is do what the government did to us from 2020 onwards. So they put signs everywhere, they put arrows on the floor, they put everywhere you went.So we're trying to make it, they made it ubiquitous. It was just everywhere, like the lockdown was everywhere, you were on a bus, it was on the radio, it was on a screen, it was on a post, everything, public transport, shops, everywhere. You couldn't escape it. If you engaged in life outside your house or even inside your house through the screen, you were made aware that it was this virus and this lockdown and all this stuff and that's what you were supposed to believe.So we have to use that sort of tactic against them and make it feel like, and also what they did is they made everybody feel like everybody believed the same thing. So with the yellow boards, what we're doing is we're presenting a constant stream of, like if you're driving past, you'll see not just one, you'll see 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 yellow boards with these messages and repetitive messages and you'll hear the horns which make you think if you don't agree with us why do all these other people agree? Why are all these horns going off? So it makes you feel like you're the minority which is the reverse of what happened in 2020 when you thought you were the minority if you if you didn't believe the government. So we're using the same sort of tactics there. And so there's that side of it. And also, I think what I'm suggesting in that video is that if you can get someone to blow their horn, then that's an act of defiance, like it's just a little act of defiance. But that's how they got you. First of all, it was like, just three weeks to flatten the curve.Just three weeks, okay, or two weeks in the States. And then it's like, okay, just another three weeks, just a mask. So we're starting off with, just blow your horn.Right? And then if you can hear everyone blowing the horn, then you can think, okay, what's the next step then? Okay, maybe everyone agrees with me, everyone else is blowing the horn, so like, then maybe, maybe, then they take the next act of defiance. Now, we can't volunteer that and suggest that people do that because on video or anything else like that, because it's illegal to encourage people to break the law. All we can do is point to the options, right?And so the response there that you're seeing about the defiance in London, people cutting down the cameras. There are some of us who know, some people say we think we know, but we have read the agenda and it is documented, what this plan is.As you said, it is not about money, they print the money anyway, they can print all the money they want.These people are not short of money, they are not short of control in a way.They are trying to change the nature of humanity, they are trying to control us to, the point where they make us into drones that service the elite class who still fly about, use private planes and cars and whatever else they want and have the dominion over the countryside while we live in smart cities and are boxed in like little rabbit hutches.So if you know that, then as I pointed out there, then you take the Solzhenitsyn idea of grabbing your iron poker or your pots and pans and beating them off in whatever way possible.So if you're still in a system where there is a police force and you can get locked in jail, so what are the small acts of defiance you can do? you can not pay your fine and you can spread crazy foam, you can spray crazy foam over the ULEZ camera.So if you actually know that you're going to lose everything, then spraying foam over a camera is not that big a rebellion.And I think the people who know are taking down the cameras.You know, they realize this is a pivotal moment. This is a bridge that we cannot cross.And so that is why you're seeing that. And whilst it's unusual for the British be so rebellious. We don't really have a history of revolution.If you understand what is happening, this is the time to stand up if there's ever been a time. So that is why the cameras are coming down. Now, not everybody is at that level, and which the people who are know something is not right, they know they can't afford it. And the people in the vans are saying I'm being crushed. And I can't, there's people just drive and say, I won't be able to visit my mom, like I need to get them in the car, or she needs a lift or whatever it is.And there's people who are losing their businesses, because they rely on their van for the business to take all their tools to work and so on. So they know they're losing something. So if we can just nudge them along to, you know, a nudge as in the nudge unit, if we can use that same psychological nudging, you're not alone. Loads of people agree with you. You can be defiant. You can stand up. There's solidarity and it's quite fun to blow your horn and hear the mad noise and it's like it's a kind of, it's a little act of freedom. It's kind of weird because most of the time you you drive your car, you have to obey the code of the road, and you have to be, there's speed restrictions which are coming down all the time to lower and lower speeds.And you are, you know, you don't get this, most people are not in a position where they can just rant and rave at work or at home and support, just you can whack your horn, it's a little moment of freedom, and that feels good.Okay, well, maybe I'll try, and there's loads of it. So we're just trying to get people to recognise the numbers and the strengths, and they have the power.And it might not be as, maybe I'm talking that up a little bit, but I think that somebody has to take some steps somewhere and the more rebellious are taking down the cameras and the less rebellious are blowing the horns and we're hoping they can meet in the middle and just throw the whole thing out.
I love that a one-pound thing of silly string or shaving foam can shut down a network of cameras that cost billions.It's beautiful to see that.I think, obviously, whenever you've got a system set up there for taking pictures of cars, automatic number plate recognition, and then that's fed in, that then is a whole surveillance system that is set up.And I think that some people realize that can be used and repurposed for anything but many people don't and you're told oh it just takes a picture and then it disappears and no it's part of a gathering of information on all of us. Do you think people realize that and are wakening up to that? 
Yeah I think the harder they push and the more extreme and illogical the measures seem to people, more people look for the reasons behind them.More and more often now, if there is a line of cars and you speak to someone and they say it is madness, he is an idiot, Khan, the mayor of London, they will say he is an idiot. It is not just him though, they're like, yeah I know. Its a bigger thing.They know it is a bigger picture.They have to look at the motive for why it is happening. It doesn't make sense to people.Why would they be crushing us in this way?People tend to understand it is not just about money. and they can also see it.I mean, the surveillance is everywhere. In Britain, we have in the supermarkets, they film your face.So it's, and if you ask, you say, oh, it's about shoplifting, but they're not filming your bag or your hands, they're filming your face.And there's, you know, there's, and to do, interact with, you know, buying tickets or anything like that, you have to give your details and, or to get into your bank account, you need a phone and a laptop or two devices, one to verify the other.So people can see the surveillance state coming in and people can see cash being phased out.So I think people have an awareness that there's something bigger than just they're trying to clean the air for kids with asthma, these guys who don't care about the excess deaths or that nobody makes a peep about wars that kill and displace millions, but they really care about your granny and they really care about the kids with asthma down the street. And also I think to some extent, obviously I don't know enough people to know, but my experience at the COVID inquiry when people responded very positively to our questioning of the COVID vaccines and made me think that the vaccines have woken people up because I think some people will, many people know people who have not had the same health since they took the vaccine. So there's a whole variety of things that are coming together where people think maybe that wasn't quite right that lockdown business and maybe those vaccines weren't quite right and maybe this ULEZ isn't quite right and maybe the phasing out of cash is not quite right and maybe there's a link between them all. So I think that people are coming around to that idea for sure. 
Let me just finish off on that cash issue, because here's another clip.We'll play a two minute clip and just finish off just touching on that and the response from people.Because I think a lot of these issues, people maybe can feel that it's too big, it's beyond them.But what you're showing, I think, is each individual can play a part and it's that individuals come together as a mass movement, actually changing things. But let me just play this two minute clip and then we'll finish off just chatting over that.(Video of Francis plays)
Okay, today we're here in Hampstead and we've just been giving out a few flyers and raising awareness about the dangers of a cashless economy. I had one woman come up to me and she was asking me about how, what's the point, what's the big deal about it, what's the problem with it, because you know carrying cash is a pain and using card is very convenient.And there is like a Benjamin Franklin quote about foregoing a little bit of liberty for safety, but in our generation we seem to be foregoing liberty for convenience almost. The other daywhen I was out doing, we were talking about ULEZ, people were saying to me about surveillance.They were saying, oh yeah, well, there's already surveillance everywhere. What difference does it make? And I would make the point to them that the surveillance that I have now, although in Britain we have more cameras per head of population than anywhere except China, is a lot. We have a lot of surveillance. But for the most part, the expense they were talking about was like your mobile phone, reading your emails, tracking you everywhere you go.You can put your mobile phone in the bin, but if you start to have like a smart TV monitor your house, you've got smart car which monitors how you travel and then when you step outside you have surveillance at every zone that they put in for the ULEZ and you then they can control whether or not you spend your money and already in this country you've had people's finances stopped for them saying the wrong things that starts to be a problem and I'm starting to realise a little bit I think that people don't actually know what freedom is or how to defend it I mean they're, talking like for example when we had the vaccines people say no you're still free to get the job but you just have to get the vaccine and they're saying you're still free to go where you want but you just have to you know pay a fine or change your car. These are erosions of freedoms, essential freedoms that we've had for a long time that people don't seem to even understand that what is happening while it's happening around them and there's almost like a complacency. You certainly feel it in some areas where people like maybe smirk at you for carrying a board like this or for talking to them about these kind of subjects that they just don't see the trajectory or the[40:54] fact that once these measures are in place it will be too late to contest them.If they don't go the way they want them to, if suddenly it's their money that's getting stopped, it's only their movements that's getting curtailed. And I think that's something very important that people should consider. But in this country, and I think in the West in general, people feel that their freedom is guaranteed for some reason.I think the thing is that, yeah, most people living in the West haven't lived under a communist system and therefore don't understand freedom as being straight. But that looked like a sunnier day in London. But on that, let's just finish off with this because a lot of these things are an act of change of thinking. We're lulled into something often because it is easier, it is simpler, it makes your life easier. So why you have to go and get cash when you can just touch your phone, soon touch your palm, soon you just walk in and it scans you. But it is people thinking actually intentionally how to push back but how kind of what has been the response from people as you've talked to them and highlighted actually maybe something that people have forgotten that actually it's just easier to have a card or a phone actually you really do need to use cash because as you said if you don't use it it'll be gone. 
Well cash is a much more neutral issue for people than say what we talk about lockdown vaccines or ULEZ because the climate agenda and the vaccine or lockdown agendas are firmly lodged.People tend to have a preconceived idea before you reach them.But the cash idea, they're just going to think, well, I've not heard much about that.And then, or they'll say, why do you think that? Or the people who've already onto it, who find it difficult to make their transactions through life using online processes.So yeah, the cash is more neutral and people seem to be more willing to listen to you about that because they're curious or because they hadn't really thought about it.Because it is convenient not to have coins. And if we had a benevolent system and a benevolent government, you know, maybe I'd have no problem with it if you could trust the system. But the fact is that we live in a world where every potential misuse has to be factored in and the government will misuse it to the or somebody at some point will misuse it to the extent to which it's it's possible to misuse it and and that will be to our detriment if we don't have the freedom to spend our cash but I also wanted to say in terms of you mentioned the cameras before on on the ULEZ, introducing the surveillance.That that monitoring that is being brought in. I see a potential threat because you said that we've not had an experience of communism or totalitarianism in this country, but we had it the past three years. I mean, in the Derbyshire Hills, they had drones following people around who were going for a walk on their own, and ordering them home or giving them some kind of police notice for walking in the hills in the countryside. So if you bring in cameras that that can surveil your movement, that those can be, again, misused to the extent to which the state has the potential to misuse them.So if you link all, as I said before, if these things are all linked together, and World Health Organization has a treaty coming in, in which it can override national governments and say if there's the potential for a health emergency, they can impose measures like we've had before, like the quarantines, lockdowns, testing, tracking, tracing, the potential, not the reality of it, just a potential for a health crisis, then you have these zones that are surveilled.If we saw the technology that they had with drones that they use for people in the countryside, if they've got the technology to shut down zones, we already know in this country that they shut down what they call tiers.No, they shut down areas into what they call tiers.Then what would stop them from shutting down an area where they said, oh, this area's had an outbreak because the PCR test, which is not fit for purpose, said that one person, two people had a nosebleed already had a, you know, a cold, they could use the surveillance to shut that down.So I think that the experience of totalitarianism over the past three years has made people more alive, to the fact that these powers can be misused.So when we go out and sort of speak about these things like ULEZ or cash, and you say to them, you might need your freedom sometime, you know, you might need to be able to get into that shopping centre.I mean, in some of the shops, they started to use the one-way arrows on the floor, and some of them had doors with traffic lights on them. So you could go in this door and not this door.It's only one step away from locking you out if they see you as a plague carrying vermin, which is kind of the way they characterize you anyway, because both these schemes, the COVID scheme and the ULEZ scheme, characterized, first of all, they make the air out to be poisoned, as in it's dangerous for you to breathe the air, whether it's ULEZ with cars, and both of them, the people, The agent poisoning the air is the human being.So you are the vermin that is the blight upon the earth and essentially when they say they need to stop the spread, they're talking about people, they need to stop the spread of people, we need to stop them driving around, we need to stay in their homes, we need to stay in the smart cities and all these things. Now people might not have it crystallized in that way in their head but they're aware that something happened over the past three years that was a bit weird and they're aware that they would, that they will remember that it wasn't nice to be locked in their homes or, or prevented from going to shops and supermarkets and nightclubs and pubs and clubs and doing all the normal pleasures of life.So if you start to say to them, the cash could be used in a way, or sorry, the absence of cash could be used in a way to control your purchases or your movements.And would you, I say to them a simple question as well, would you like it if I had control over how you spent your money?Or any other person, like an abusive husband or a wife or a father or whatever, just some third party could say whether or not you spend your money or where and when you spend your money.They can connect with that. They don't want a third party involved with their money.Some people think you're mad, obviously there's still always that range of opinions, but I think that's something that people can very easily identify with.And it's not laden with the same belief system that like belief in the global warming is or in the magic cold that didn't exist for some protests.And did for others or that kind of thing. So it's not laden with that kind of propaganda onslaught.You can just say to them, there's something, cash is your freedom, you need to have control over how you spend your money and they'll go, all right, I hadn't thought of that.
Francis, I appreciate you coming on and it's a whole range of issues which have sprung up, COVID tyranny, cash, ULEZ, net zero surveillance, huge issues but love what you do with the yellow boards and I've be looking forward to getting you on. I love having people on who I don't know, I don't never met before and have them on chat so thanks so much for coming on today and sharing what you're doing with the yellow boards.
Thank you for having me, Peter. It's been a pleasure.

The Week According To . . . David Vance

How’s the craic?It's another Irish night at Hearts of Oak as David Vance returns afresh to give us his honest and often scathing appraisals on the talking points, from the news and from his social media this past week.So join us as David and Peter get stuck into this weeks topics, including...- Trans Madness: Man wins woman of the year.- "Free Palestine” demos across Europe and beyond.- Have Hezbollah have joined Hamas?- Muslim immigrants take to the streets to support Hamas across Europe. What have we imported? - Grooming Gangs: The never ending Rape of Britain continues.- Outrage over order to NOT jail rapists as our prisons are full. If we can’t jail them, what can we do with them?- Captain Toms Legacy: Was it a completely manufactured psyop?- Day of Global Jihad.
Pureblood David Vance will not submit, and he will not comply.He used to be disgusted but now he tries to be amused!In the battle for truth and liberty, David chooses the front line, he has been writing and talking politics for a long time and is a published author, political commentator and podcaster extraordinaire!If the Covid 19 plandemic taught him one lesson it is that critical reasoning and a healthy contempt for the mainstream media are desirable armoury in the fight against tyranny.
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Recorded 13.10.23
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