Hearts of Oak Podcast

Dwight Schultz - Being a Conservative in Hollywood

I dreamt of being a pilot as a child and grew up watching The A-Team and my favourite character was 'Howling Mad Murdock' played by Dwight Schultz. I was obsessed with aircraft so he was the one I wanted to be as his character could fly any plane or helicopter that he had to. Years later I saw him with Jamie Glazov and Anni Cyrus on 'The Glazov Gang' and was intrigued at his strong Conservative Christian stance while delivering common sense commentary. This is the first interview he has done for many years so it truly is an honour to have Dwight join Hearts of Oak on this audio only discussion. (he is the voice king) We talk about those early days treading the boards in the theatre and as a star in Hollywood, working on the biggest TV programme in the world and Dwight shares some stories of how his strong conservative stance got him into much hot water. He truly is a breath of fresh air in an increasingly demonic industry that opposes truth at every turn and mocks all who have a Christian Faith or Conservative Values.(*Peter takes to the skies regularly and has held a pilots licence for many years)A respected performer on Broadway, Dwight Schultz found everlasting fame by playing the certifiable "Howling Mad" Murdock on the action series "The A-Team" (1983-86). A living, breathing cartoon with a seemingly endless selection of voices and accents at his command, Murdock provided the air power for the A-Team's clandestine adventures, provided that his compatriots could break him out of the mental hospital where he resided. One of the show's most popular and memorable figures, Murdock ensured Schultz steady work on television and on the big screen playing Reginald Barclay in "Star Trek: The Next Generation" An accomplished voice actor, Dwight can be heard in numerous hit computer games and in countless animated shows.Interview recorded 21.3.23
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TRANSCRIPT
[0:22] Hello Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up with Dwight Schultz, Howling Mad Murdock from the A-Team.He came in on a audio. Dwight hasn't done interviews for years.I was absolutely delighted to have him on when you talk to one of your childhood heroes who you grew up watching him in A-Team.And he was my favourite simply because he was a pilot. And I always wanted to grow up and that's what I wanted to grow up to be.But I'm talking to him about being a conservative, being a Christian in the industry, in Hollywood, in the movie industry. And actually we delve more deeply into his Christian faith, Roman Catholic background, and what it means for him to be a Christian in that industry where you're pulled every way and where your faith is ridiculed, mocked, and everything stands against that. So great conversation about some of his experiences and what it is to be a Christian and to be a conservative in the industry. We talk about his voiceovers, I mean his voice is legendary. Talk about that and why he stepped away from doing kind of in front of a camera in 2001, why that was, and all the voiceover and then I think 100 video games, his voice is in a whole other world, a whole other industry. So, I know you will enjoy listening to Dwight as much as I enjoyed speaking with him.[1:48] It is wonderful to have Dwight Schultz with us today. Dwight, thank you so much for joining us.[1:54] Oh, it's my pleasure, Peter, for my reintroduction to the world of podcasting, radio, television.
 
Well, this is something I've only been doing three years, So I know you have much more experience back in the day, but we'll get into some of that.And obviously I...Remember you fondly growing up. I think I was six when The A Team first came out, which is now 40 years ago.I'm sure I didn't want it when I was six. But your role obviously is as Howling Mad Murdock.So we can take just a little bit memory lane before we go into and talk about actually being a conservative in the industry and what that is like.But I mean, it ran for five seasons, 83 to think 87.Do you just want to let us know how you actually ended up in that role?
Well, actually, it actually only went four seasons, real seasons, so it's not technically considered a success. That's true. I ended up in that role because I made a comedy tape at the Williamstown Theatre Festival around 1979, 1980.[3:18] Somewhere in there. And the comedy tape, and for two years, I didn't hear anything.And then suddenly I started getting calls from my agent to audition and to go to Los Angeles to audition.and it was because of this comedy tape.And I found out it had been making the rounds for two years and eventually Steve Cannell and Frank Lupo, his co-writer saw it and requested me to come.Joel Thurm, who was the vice president of NBC at the time, however, he had different ideas about this character.And anyway, I went in and they flew me out to Los Angeles.[4:03] And my wife was out here. She wasn't my wife at the time, but I had been dating her since 79.And she was out here living in Los Angeles, which was difficult.I mean, I was glad to come out here for any reason. And I had never.It was a joy, but I came in and I auditioned and it was a total flop. It was a bomb.I mean, you walk into a small room with 25 people, 30 people, and there was not a single laugh.There was nothing. There was no... And then they sent me out and they sent the director, Rod Holcomb, out with me to talk to me. I came back in, I did the same audition, And everybody was laughing and I had no idea why they were laughing now.And they weren't laughing before, unless someone said laugh when he comes back.You know, that's the way it was. It was just an astonishing thing.And they said, you got the part.[5:02] And then, uh, and this is the, really, this is the nub, right?So, uh, I, they shoot in Mexico and I went down to Mexico.And when we were down there, I was fired.I was fired. I was fired. Rod Holcomb came into my little room and he said, I'm afraid it's not going to work out.And I said, oh, what? He said, it's not Steven. It's not Frank.It's the would-be's at NBC. They just don't think you're quite right for it.And so they took me out of my little room and they put me in with a stuntman who I loved.I just loved him. I mean, it was incredible to work with these guys.And so there I was with the stuntmen for the rest of the shoot down in Mexico.And when we came back to the States, they were editing it and putting it together as we were shooting it, right?[5:58] I got a call from my agent said your dials were great. I said, what are you talking about?I had no idea what they were talking about.This is 82, right?This is 1980. I don't know what you're talking about. He said the dials, the dials, the testing.The audience loved you. You're the best dials that anybody had.So I was written back in.I was rehired before I was fired. And so you can't make this stuff up in life. You can't.So it just turns out that they had a different view of what this character should be like.And I had another view.And Stephen Cannell and Frank Lupo were in my camp.And so they had to write me back into the first five episodes, which they had kind of written me out of. And that's the way it started. And I was,[7:04] as anybody would be, you know, I got to work with some of the finest old actors[7:12] that I had grown up with in the 50s and 60s. And it was a thrill. The four years were a thrill.I mean, it was an absolute thrill. And I got along beautifully with everybody. And Stephen J. Cannell[7:24] was a conservative. I mean, I'm lucky. I'm fortunate there. I was fortunate because some of my other experiences were not so fortunate, working with people who knew I was a conservative and weren't going to have a conservative on their show. That was the way it started back then.But anyway, so it was four years of, we didn't really have a studio.We were working on locations and I got along famously with everybody.And it was a joy. It was four, believe me, it changed my life completely and totally.I never thought I would end up in Los Angeles and never leave.
Well, what was I mean, it's intense, I guess, that you're living and breathing it.And most people, I have no idea what that's like. Most people go to a job and they go home, but you're there nonstop.What's that kind of intensity, especially for years with it's the same people?
It's the same people. But listen, as an actor, I mean, I've been working I've been working professionally since nineteen sixty nine.This gig, it's over 50 years. Right. So I had, I have before the 18, I never knewwhat my next job was ever. I never knew what I was doing next. And after the 18, I never have known[8:50] what I'm going to do next. I've never had a consistent job other than those four years.And I thank God for them every night. I hoped it would go longer, but this was not the intention, nor the background of Stephen J Cannell. His shows were two years, three years. And then they name of every single writer that we had in the first year moved on to their own series.They all became producers. And this is not the way you have a successful series for an, actor, which is selfish, right? You want to go at least five years, seven years. But they all, you have to have somebody there who is consistently behind it, pushing it, making sure everything is the way it's supposed to be. But that was not the way it was. But I did everything that you can possibly imagine, I think, on that show.And as the 14-hour days, 15-hour day, I loved it because I knew that there was going to be an ending.I knew the day I started that there was going to be a last day.And so and I think that's the way life is, actually.[10:02] And so take advantage of what you have and enjoy it and hope for the best.But I savour it every minute and I look back very fondly.
When you say it wasn't a success, I remember thinking this is the biggest thing ever.This is phenomenal. I watched it as a kid growing up. So it did seem to be the kind of TV show that you would watch. I mean, the only other one I remember at the same time was I think Knight Rider at the same time, but they were the shows to watch.
 
Yes, they were. But you see, we were on NBC, Grant Tinker and Brandon Tartikoff, and their moniker was quality programming. And Grant Tinker, and well, Tartikoff gave an interview for the New York Times, right? This is not an example of our quality program, right? Really, this is it. That's what he said. You know, their ideas was Hill Street Blues, which they had on.This was their idea of quality programming, not this schlock that's number one.[11:12] This is not it. And I sent Grant Tinker a telegram and George Peppard said, don't do it, pal.Don't do it. Don't do it, Peppard said to me.I sent it to him and I said, this is third rate executive ship.I said, we do the best work we can and we're number one, why are you doing this to us?And then he sent me a telegram back, which I have kept, saying, well, you're assuming that that was true, what you read.And I said, well, I checked with the writer, the journalist, quote unquote, who he said, he talked to you and this is what you said. And indeed he did.And this is a tag to all of this.He, after the show was over, it was cancelled, several years afterwards, I have received a phone call from his assistant saying[12:13] Brandon wants to talk to you. And I said, sure, I'll talk to him.And I met with him in this basement office, 20th Century Fox.And I walked in and there was nobody there but Brandon Tartikoff sitting at a table and he apologized to me.[12:31] His daughter had been in a very serious accident and it changed his life.It was one of these things. And he apologized to me.I'll never forget it. And this does not happen in show business. It does not happen.And I said, thank you. Thank you so much for that.I said, and then I went into my spiel about being an actor. And that I, you know, you do the best job you can, whether you're doing Shakespeare, whether you're doing a show, or whether you're doing The A-Team.You do the best job you can. It is the same job if you're good and you love your work.It doesn't matter. You do the best thing, the best you put. You're not walking through it.I said, that's what we were doing. And we happened to be number one.And why did you rain on the parade? You know, I asked him and he gave me some explanations as to the the exigencies at the top of a TV network.And I, so at any rate, that that that's the experience. That's the beginning and end of that experience, really.[13:43] And I carry with me.
 
How did you cope with that fame? And you were what, 30, 32, so you weren't young, young.But still, when you're thrust into that level of publicity, how did that affect you personally and how did you cope with that?
Well, you know, I was fortunate that I was working since I had been working since 69.I spent 13 years in regional theatre.I spent years in New York, three Broadway plays.I had a lot of experience.[14:17] Really, they walk in the boards, doing all the grunt work, getting there.And I, fame was not a, I was known and all my interests in theatre were to be, this is a joke actually, but never the same actor twice.I mean, that's it. You didn't want to do the same thing.And here I was, and I forced the idea that this actor, this character would be different in each episode, which the vice president of NBC said, that's the way you comb your hair differently.You should be the same. We want you to be polite on this.And I said, no, no, no, no, no, I don't wanna do that.I wanna be different in every show. And so I maintained, I think, because of the work that I had had.When you do the classics, when you're in, and I don't mean this, when you have the great opportunity to play a Shakespearean role.[15:22] You understand something about talent, about what goes into writing, brilliant writing, and then schlock writing.I mean, you see it all. And when you've been given that opportunity, There's a humility that hits you.So fame was never something that I wanted.I wanted to be able to – and I've had this ability. I've been able to go to a department store or take my daughter to a mall and not be recognized, which is – I'm telling you, I have worked with – I mean, I worked with Paul Newman and Paul Newman was, it was not a, he, he told me he couldn't go anywhere.He was a prisoner of his fame.[16:12] George Peppard was a prisoner of his fame. I mean, the closest I think I've ever gotten was somebody said, your voice sounds familiar, do you know my brother?I'll say, no, I don't know your brother.Then every once in a while, somebody recognizes you, but it's a curse.[16:33] It is a curse, really. If you have a family, if you want a family life, if you want privacy, which I think is necessary for survival in this business.I mean, I've seen a lot of actors drop to their knees and open cardboard tubes and pull drugs out.You know, and that's fame. And you ask them, that's it, it's driven.You know, you gotta have that fame, you gotta have that fame, you gotta.And it's not what I wanted. I really am a repertory actor, that's it.I'm a repertory actor. I spent one year in Houston, at the Alley Theatre in Houston, and it was one of the greatest years I've ever had.And I never wanted to leave. And someone told me, that's why you have to leave.I would have stayed there.I could have stayed there. But my agents all told me, you have to leave.You can't stay here, or your career will be over.And I said, but I love this. And they said, you won't love it when it dries up there.You know, you have to go to a bigger, a bigger yard in essence.But I'm really a repertory actor. That's it.[17:47] Your last I think your last TV role was 2001.I will get into the voice side later, but your last 2001. Why did, why did it end there?Was a personal experience? Was it just choice?
Oh, yeah. No, it was a really a personal experience.It was CIA. 2001 was...[18:17] I went in for wardrobe fitting, and we were at the Memorial Cemetery, Veterans Cemetery down in Wilshire Boulevard, and that's where it was being shot. And I walked in, and this is nothing, I won't mention the name, I shouldn't have even said what the show was. Just someone in the wardrobe room.We were talking about 9-11. We were talking about what had happened in New York. I had a lot of friends in New York, of course, obviously. And she said, I don't have any connection to that. I don't know why everybody – I just don't have any connection to it, you know? She still connects? And she rubbed it off, you know? And I said, I mean, life was – rules were at that point not easy to come by, actually. And I said I can't do this, you know, I can't work.This to me was a sign, a sign from God.I'm not joking. You look for these things. This was a sign that this was the wave of the future.There was going to be a lot of denial and there was going to be, and it's complicated. I mean, I'm not judging anybody.[19:43] But for me, I had an opportunity to move into another direction, and I decided to do the other direction because I could be anybody, anything in voiceover work. Video games were just becoming big at the time, and the whole business was very big. And voice work was something that, as an actor in the theatre, I always did.If I couldn't find the voice of the character, I couldn't find the character. And so that was it.I mean, the fates came together at that time.And I was doing radio at the time on a fairly regular basis with a friend named Don Ecker.And I just moved in that direction.[20:36] I mean, there were opportunities there, but I knew things had changed at that point.
Yeah, well, we'll get into that. I want to pick on being a conservative in the, the movie and TV industry, and that seems to be opposites.We've seen more and more, and I think it probably gets worse.And you're Roman Catholic, you're conservative. And what has been your experiences having a faith and also having a conservative belief?How does that fit into the showbiz industry? What has it been like for you?
Well, going back, if you look at,[21:23] if you look at the world that we're in today, the Judeo-Christian world, which is, and I have to say if I have one criticism of modern Christianity prior to today, and I mean going back, because there's a lot of things I could say about today, which we will, I'm sure.But one of the things which always struck me me was about Christians, was their antipathy for the Old Testament, the Torah. It is Judeo-Christianity, and if a Christian doesn't understand that the Old Testament is their testament, there's, a problem. And they don't, indeed. In Bible study, the number of times that I heard Christians say oh, that's not my God. I want to get out of this. I want to get to my God. Well, that's two gods.[22:24] I mean, there is the Trinity, which is three gods in one, right? I mean, we do have that mystery, but we are monotheistic. And Christ's Old Testament was his Old Testament. He was here to fulfil the Old Testament. This is what he said, that it is the Father. You're speaking of your father. This is Christ's father and the Torah, the law as it was laid down is your law.It went on to the New Testament.[22:58] You know, and Catholics, I mean, I was raised a Catholic, and when I found out that it wasn't, thou shalt not kill, but thou shalt not murder, you know, the wheels begin to turn, and you try to think as best you can about these things. But there was a disconnect between the Old Testament in the New Testament. But that has to do with my criticism of my own faith. In motion pictures in the film industry, it was under attack, as it is today.Christianity is—and Judeo-Christian ethic, the West, everything that has been built through the Judeo-Christian ethic is under attack and they want to destroy it.[23:55] And basically at the very front of that is the communist wagon, and it always has been. And you can go back to 1918 or whatever and read about it, and they tried every which way from Sunday to do it, and they always failed, and now they've found another way of doing it. And they have succeeded by going after our children when we didn't know they were going after our children.But as Christians, we're pretending that it wasn't important to be mothers and fathers and the nuclear family really wasn't that important.Well, then why were they trying to destroy it? And why has it been number one?[24:35] Because and I'm going to say something else here in a second, which I'm pointing to, there's a quote.This is the technique that they have used, and you didn't know it, but you felt it all along.You felt this, but you didn't know it.[24:57] A quote by, it's attributed to Oscar Wilde. And I think it is his, I don't think, I don't think, I think it is his quote.And it is pithy and accurate and brilliant and beyond belief descriptive of everything.Everything in the world is about sex, except sex.Sex is about power. And boy, when I read that, I said, is this, did he really say this?Is it? And it hit me from every direction.The entertainment business in every which way is about sex. Novels, books, television, commercials, life itself, clothes, it's all about sex.And it goes back to God's edict to humanity.[25:56] Go forth and multiply. This is the power of procreation, is sharing in the power of creation.That power was given to all of us.We don't know, I mean, people have talked about it, but you don't, we don't know where that came from, except from God.And it is something to, what do we do with these gifts? Do we throw them away?Or do we say these are precious?[26:30] And you see by the people that you meet, those who recognize the gift and those who don't recognize the gift. And you are asked not to recognize it on a daily basis.And as a child, if you think back to your childhood when sexual urges, whether you're—and of course, I can't tell you what a woman goes through, but I can only tell you what a kid goes through—boy, when you're going through puberty, the whistles and gongs are going off, and you're you're having dreams at night and you can't stop it.[27:03] Everything is at the wrong moment and you're not purposefully thinking about it, but it's a force to be reckoned with.And you understand it as you grow older that this force is to bring you to someone else, to love, to have a family and to create the next generation and then everything changes after that.If you can contemplate that greatness, that extraordinary thing, and realize that the world seems to want to distort it, well, you realize the powers that are set up against Judeo-Christianity.And who say, we don't want the Ten Commandments, we don't want that Old Testament rag, we want freedom, free, and of course I went through that in the 60s and 70s in school, and I saw it.I mean, I was part of it in that it bounced off of me at every moment.And being a Christian, you stay in it.[28:10] I stayed in my Christianity. This is another tale.When I got to school, to college, I mean, I had 12 years of Christian education, right?I wanted to be an actor and I went to Towson University, which had a great theatre program.And it was the first time that I was in a purely secular environment.The thing that killed me was that everybody hated their parents.Everybody hated their parents. I mean, nobody wanted to, nobody had a good thing, I loved my parents.And I used to say, I used to have a long bus ride home and I used to sit in the bus looking out the window saying, why do I love my parents and I can't find somebody who loves their parents? What is that?Well, I can't say that I answered the question, but the answer was in the destruction of the family.[29:10] It was in the destruction, and it had started then. Not my mother and father.And then here's the next aspect, and I think that this plays a very big part in all the trouble we're having today.I never wanted to do something that shamed my parents, that they would be ashamed of. I felt shame. I still do. I feel shame. It was given to me by my mother and my father. Now, none of us are perfect. I know my mother wasn't perfect, my father wasn't perfect. I'm not perfect, but I feel shame and shame is rare.Now, look, I was listening to your podcast[29:58] with Father Calvin Robinson. Right.
 
Goodness, you make me blush.
No, no. And no, but he said something.He said he said something aboutdrag queens in the sanctuary.[30:19] I mean, we're talking about there's no shame if you do that.Before, shortly after, I guess we communicated, I went to here in Los Angeles, I went to the Church of the Nazarene in Pasadena, and I saw two, I don't know if you know these individuals, Dennis Prager, do you know Dennis Prager? Dennis is a Jewish scholar. I've been following him since since 1982, when I came to Los Angeles.He had a program called Religion on the Line, one of the great minds and thinkers of all time.In fact, many times after listening to him, I would say to myself, I'm a Jew.That's what I am, I'm a Jew.[31:05] And then there's Eric Metaxas, who is a Christian writer, thinker, and these two were in a program, an evening called ask a Gentile, Ask a Jew. And it was a great evening, two hours of just two brilliant people talking about the state of religion. What was the final outcome, sad outcome of the evening? Metaxas and Prager both came to the conclusion that we, organized religion, has failed us. It has failed us. The churches and the synagogues have failed us. They have not stepped up to defend their own dogma, their own beliefs. And we are left flailing, individuals almost.And we are struggling to connect, which is what you and I are doing right now.[32:08] I was dumbfounded by that, but at the same time, that's what I'm thinking.That's what I've been thinking for quite some time.And all of these things, you know, we are under attack from every direction.And in your own mind, what do you do? Do you throw it away? Do you say, well maybe I'm thinking the wrong thing.No, no, no, that is not the case.Because when you think about why our children,[32:47] and if you've seen this now, why our children are being told that they don't know what their sex is, Metaxas brought this up in the evening that this is one of those key cardinal points. You can see.This is a perversion of reality, because you know what the truth is.If you have a Supreme Court justice, as we do in the United States, who says, I can't define a woman, and that children, 10 year old children, 11 and 12 year old children, secretly, don't tell your parents the hallmark of a lie.Keep it secret.Don't tell anybody. Don't even tell yourself.[33:26] You know the hallmark of concealment, consciousness of guilt, everything that you know is, they are trying to tell you you know nothing and everything you know is not to be believed, but they are to be believed.That children, there are not boys and girls, that men can give birth, that there are, you know, these things that we, it's incomprehensible what's going on and it's all to destroy right from wrong.
Well, that's because it's kind of, I look at it a different way.One is the difficulty of living in a society where evil is slightly different, where it's a slippery slope and it may be difficult to distinguish what you believe with something that's slightly different.But we see such a chasm now between what is true, what is right, and the collapse and degradation of society.So in theory, that means it is easier to be a Christian because it's easy to be distinct, because what you face is the opposite of what you believe.And and that's why it's curious and interesting to see churches going down this line whenever there's,[34:38] there's no question of what we see is the opposite of what is written in scripture.
Oh, there's no question.You know what you're saying?You can be crushed. You know, you can be crushed at the same time.You have to deny so many things to accept what's going on.And yet you say to yourself, how do I stop it?The war that's going on in Europe at this moment. And this is why I love Bannon.I mean, I just, I adore him. I never got to, I would not, and I'll say this, Andrew Breitbart brought me out of the closet politically, really politically.I was doing a lot of things, but saying a lot of things that were in the basket, but he truly brought me out.
 
When was this?
When was this? .This is a through also through Gary Sinise and friends of Abe.[35:48] Boy, this is this is in the, I have to say nine. I'd say 2000 to 2005,2006.By 2008, yeah, I have to say around 2005, 2006.[36:09] I was like a Jew wandering in the desert alone and wondering where God was.And a friend of mine who I worked with on Fat Man and Little Boy, a film about making the atomic bomb, called me up, his wife was a casting director, and he said, you know there are conservatives just like yourself who get together on a regular basis.I said, no, I did not know that. He said, would you like to go to a meeting?I said, I would love to go to a meeting of other people.I went and it was Gary Sinise and Andrew Breitbart, and a lot of other extraordinary people who were all, and this is it, seeking, trying to make connections.And so Andrew said, you have to become public.He had big Hollywood and big, you know, all of, he had all of these big websites.And he asked me to write an article.[37:09] He heard me in private describe a situation that I was in, in which I was at the Williamstown Theatre Festival.I had just come back from working with Charlton Heston and I had a long discussion, which was just a wonderful discussion in the hallway at the Amundsen Theatre about Ronald Reagan becoming president, right? And this individual who was a big producer in Hollywood overheard me talking about Ronald Reagan, and he said, Oh, so you're a Reagan a-hole, you know?[37:58] And yeah, that's right. That's right. And I was, I got to tell you, I mean, this was a big guy at the theatre too, that I was working,and I went cold.I went cold. I said, yes. I said, you know, not as a, you know, and I pulled back.I was, you know, he was attacking me, obviously, with his language.And I was shocked. I was totally numbed.And I didn't want to continue with this discussion, because otherwise there would have been a blowout.But that was how in 78, 80, I understood that there was this chasm there.And[38:51] it only got worse as time went on. As I said, fortunate, it is not a zero-sum game.Fortunate there was for me, and I did have an audition for this producer.There was a writer there and a brilliant writer. We had a fallout, but he's just an extraordinary writer.His name is Tom Fontana. He wrote some very, it was St. Elsewhere, producer, writer for St. Elsewhere, The Wire, many wonderful programs.And he did not know about this problem that I had and invited me to read for a part called Fiscus in St. Elsewhere. And I walked in and there was this producer[39:37] who has passed away since now. And Breitbart wanted me to write about him.And I did, and I regretted it, but I don't regret it.But anyway, so I walked in and he was there and he said, oh, what are you doing here?And to this audition, and I said, I'm here to read for the part of Fiskars.He said, it's not gonna be a Reagan blank hole on my show.So you know what that audition was like, right? You know, I mean, and I walked out and I just, I said, God, is this going to be it?You know, is this the way it's gonna be?And at any rate, so, but I finally did write this article about him and I lost a lot of friends for writing it.And then at the same time, and I was one of the first actors for Breitbart to use my name.This was what he wanted because a lot of pseudonyms, writing for Big Hollywood, And which I understand, please, I did not do this, I did this[40:40] for personal reasons, but not because I'm brave or anything of that nature.I just was at the point where I was going to tell the truth.This is the way it's done. And you are excluded on a cocktail napkin.And that cocktail napkin is sent around to other producers and you're excluded.It is not a zero sum game because there was Stephen J Cannell and he hired me.[41:03] But the majority of people will not, unless, of course, you bring in 30 or 40 million dollars over a weekend.And then they'll hire you. But the attack on Judeo-Christianity, the attack on conservatism, which is a hallmark of Judeo-Christianity, is now at its height. It's never been greater than it is today.
Well can I, you're obviously being a Christian, being a conservative within an industry within the workplace, but then you had your podcast, then you're doing, you mentioned Breitbart on the Glazov Gang, that's something different. You're stepping outside and actually you're much more public. I mean was that a conscious decision to actually begin to use radio, use the internet, use TV and speak of these issues as a Christian and conservative.
Yes, absolutely. And the reason for that was I, you know, if you're,[42:13] make a point, like I would not, as Murdock from The A-Team, go out and evangelize.I wouldn't go out as Murdock from The A-Team, vote for.Right?[42:34] You're taking something that is not related and you're trying to use it to get somewhere.Where it's not as, to me, as honest as separating yourself out, creating a podcast, creating another world.This is where I talk politics. This is where I talk my personal life, my personal beliefs. This is where I do it.And so you come to me and then we go out from there. And I associate with people who talk about religion, and I associate with people who talk about politics, and I talk it there in that realm.[43:19] There's obviously a mixture. You can't divorce yourself from who you are and what you've done, and I don't.But I've never hidden my religion. I've never hidden my Christianity, as some people do.That's not the way to do it either.Yes, I am a Christian. I'm a Judeo-Christian.I believe in the Old Testament and the New Testament. And it's, for me, not a contradiction in terms.And so I express it that way. I express it here on my own podcast when I had it.And if ever anybody wanted to talk about it, I was willing to do it.And I attended every event, and with Jamie and[44:10] the lovely Anni Cyrus, that was just wonderful. That was absolutely wonderful.I went to a David Horowitz retreat, where I met Jamie.I had the great fortune, an opportunity to speak at a Freedom Concert event.Many of my public heroes were there from various political websites.And I got to meet them. And that's where I met Jamie. And he invited me on to engage with him on his program, the Glazov Gang. It's so funny. But, you know, and I met just so many fabulous people. And there are so many things right now, which I see things now and can talk about things that I couldn't prior to coming out with Andrew. And that, of course, is Bannon's big thing, Andrew.Andrew, I mean, he's – and Andrew changed – just brought the world together. I mean, his vision, his understanding of what was really going on was unique.And he was right into – he was dead on about everything. And I still don't agree with most of his friends.[45:38] I have very dark feelings about what happened to Andrew, even though I know he had a heart problem.But when the, I mean, you know what I'm talking about. I don't want to get into that aside, but I know the darkness that's out there and a voice like his had to be stopped.And they don't stop at anything. They don't. And we have now been witness to it in the United States for five or six years. Nothing stops them. Nothing. And they will lie to your face.They do not care because they are the voice of something that is dark.
[46:20] That's not a knife you feel in your back. That's me scratching it. Oh, but I feel blood. No, that's not blood. You know, that's it. That's it.
Can I finish off with your voice? Now, it is always wonderful to have a guest coming on and the sound is absolutely beautiful, crystal clear.You're coming through. Obviously, your voice is your how you make your your living now.And you've you've moved away from being kind of front of the camera to doing voice. Tell us what that is like, because it means you talked about fame and that means you're not recognized. It is your voice. And I remember watching, you were the one who, again, using your voice in all different ways, even back as in The A Team. But tell us about, how that works in the industry.
 
Well, in the industry, it doesn't. You have to be very fortunate. One of the first casting directors I ever met was Sylvia Gold, was her name.And she met with me, my first agent introduced me to her, and she said.[47:36] Oh, darling, she said, you don't understand. No one wants to hear that stuff.That's in the theatre. They want to hear you. They want to hear your voice.It's your voice that's important. And I said, no, it's not. I said, that's not what it's not.You know, I'm a vampire. I'm a thief. I listen to other people. I'm a mathematical idiot.And God gave me this ability to hear people's voices. And I said, I remember being seven years old.I was about seven years old, and I remember the first impression I ever did, which was, James Mason in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, he had a line, it was, I am dying now, and the Nautilus is dying with me, present as him. And I said this out loud to myself, I am dying now, and the Nautilus is dying with me. And the more I did it, the closer I got.And I would spend time, and I became an Anglophile, and I started listening to Richard Burton and Peter O'Toole, and I found that if I put headphones on, their voice came from the middle of my head, and I could steal from them.I could do impressions of their voice, and even if it wasn't perfect.[48:52] It became another voice, another character.And I began to identify with my relatives that way. I started doing impressions of my relatives and they did not like it.And I started doing impressions of my teachers at school and the kids liked it, but the teachers didn't like it if they heard it.And that's how it started. And I just had an ear for people's voices and dialects in the United States.And that's it. And in terms of, well, if I'm coming across crystal clear, That's because somebody recommended this microphone, the Heil PR-40, which is a dynamic microphone.Most people are wedded to very expensive condenser mics. But this is a rejection, it's a cardioid.People can open the door and come into the room and you won't hear it, you'll just hear me.Art Bell used this mic and he was always extolling the virtues of this mic, and I listened to him.And so, you know, and it's inexpensive, comparatively speaking, so it's available.[50:04] And so I, but I have spent years studying and recording people's voices and listening to them and trying to reproduce them.And one of the great thrills in my life was, I was, I knew somebody who was intimately involved with Laurence Olivier.[50:29] Peter Shaffer, and he wrote Amadeus, right? And he was just an absolutely spectacular man.And he gave me the play Amadeus to read before it was on Broadway and in Great Britain.And he was just a sweetheart of all sweethearts anyway. So I went into a bathroom and I did my impression of Olivier doing the Othello chamber scene.And I gave it to someone who was with Peter and asked them to listen to it to see if I caught any of it.And he said, this friend said, Shaffer listened to it and said, well, he said if Larry was very, very sick.But it was, you know, it was one of those, I, God, to have, you know, I, I, I think I listened, I don't know, I can't, I can't repeat anything that I've ever done myself, but I, I think I listened to the chamber scene from Othello, Olivier's Othelloa thousand times. And that's how you learn when you're a young kid. That's how you learn.And you say, oh, my God, every comma. I followed it along, and he followed the text.[51:49] Amazingly, he followed the text and was dead on. And those are the kinds of things that I became very attuned to people's voices, and recorded them.And I have a lot of recordings and sometimes I still listen to Burton's Hamlet.And Gielgud, of course, directed it.[52:21] And it was considered a disaster on Broadway, but there's some great, there's just to capture, it is a miracle that I can sit here and listen to people who have passed away as if they're in my room.It is, it is a miracle, a technical miracle, but a miracle, or listening to the great choruses, motion picture choruses from 1958 and 60, and I listen to these grand voices, and I say, most of these people are not here now, But I'm listening to them and I get emotional about it.So anyway...
 
You've also embraced just finally about. I think I looked through and you've done the voice for like 100 video games.Well, yeah, I guess that's just if you're you're good at something, then that can be used across different, different industries.
Oh, exactly. and video games are bigger than motion pictures now.And the hardest thing I was ever asked to do, and we were asked to do this periodically, you know, these great actors, right?[53:31] Sir Ian McKellen, Patrick Stewart, right? Those two individuals.Do impressions of both of them, to do them in the same thing.They were in X-Men, right?So I can't do them because they're so close. And you just do.You're asked to do it. They can't make it to do a pickup, right?So they ask an actor to come in and do a line, half a line.That's it.I can't do Ian McKellen and Patrick Stewart at the same time.But I can't. I can't do it because they're too close. And yet they're different. But I have not been able to.I mean, you know, you in Ian McKellen with Bilbo Baggins, you know, he's called the essence.[54:19] Patrick is done it. Patrick is down there, too. But I can't do them together. I cannot do them together.I have to do them separately.And Patrick is he was a delight, by the way.Very liberal, very liberal. But one of the great things about Star Trek is my greatest experience that I've had in Hollywood, because there was little to no politics on that set, and everybody was a delight to work with.Everyone, absolutely everyone. And walking around on the great Paramount lot was a thrill.Anyway, sorry, I'm getting side-lined.I loved all those people. I did. I really did.
Dwight, I so appreciate you coming on. It's absolutely wonderful to speak with you and hear about your experiences in the industry.So we really do appreciate your time today.
 
Well, it's my pleasure and I am very grateful.It's been a long time since I've done anything like this.
 
Oh, maybe it'll become more regular.
Well, thank you, Peter.
 
Thank you so much, Dwight. Thank you.
 
Bye-bye.

Miranda Devine - Laptop from Hell: Dirty Secrets the President Tried to Hide

We are delighted to welcome journalist and best selling author, Miranda Devine.Miranda has written the most intriguing, absorbing, funny and comprehensive book on Hunter Biden's laptop in just 200 pages. We have touched on this subject a couple of times with Phelim Mcaleer who directed the movie 'My Son Hunter' and with Garrett Ziegler from MarcoPolo USA, but by writing a bestselling book on this topic, she has brought this sorry tale of addiction, greed and corruption to the wider world. As a journalist she shares what first brought the now infamous laptop to her attention and why she had to write this book. So join us this episode for Mirandas insights as we take a deep dive into why the Biden Crime Family affects us all.Miranda Devine is a New York Post columnist and Fox News contributor. She also works for the Australian media as a Daily Telegraph columnist and a Sky News contributor. Born in Queens, New York, she grew up in Tokyo and Sydney, and attended North-western University in Chicago. A reformed mathematician and mother of two, she lives in New York with her husband.'Laptop from Hell: Hunter Biden, Big Tech, and the Dirty Secrets the President Tried to Hide' available in paperback, e-book or on audiobook https://www.amazon.co.uk/Laptop-Hell-Hunter-Secrets-President/dp/1637584857/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=miranda+devine+laptop+from+hell&sr=8-1 Follow Miranda on social media...TWITTER https://twitter.com/mirandadevine?s=20GETTR https://gettr.com/user/mirandadevineTRUTH https://truthsocial.com/@mirandadevineInterview recorded 4.4.23
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Transcript
[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak, and welcome to another interview coming up in a moment with Miranda Devine, the journalist who wrote Laptop from Hell, Hunter Biden.And I had the fascinating privilege of hearing Miranda speak at a conference in February.She was the keynote speaker there. And I immediately got hold of the book.I'd followed the work she had done, read it cover to cover, fascinating, short book.And I know we've delved into this topic before. Miranda brings, again, everyone brings something unique, something fresh and I know you will enjoy listening to her. She unpacks not only Hunter Biden's lifestyle, his lifestyle of drugs, alcohol and sex addiction, which is a sorry, sorry tale, although it is quite comical the book at the beginning and I find myself laughing. I don't know whether I should have been.Through the early parts as she writes a tale and tells a tale, a sorry tale, a sad tale of a chaotic lifestyle financed by Joe Biden. And then we go into that corruption side and how Joe Biden is very much part of that and the Biden name is used for corruption for financial deals across the world with multiple companies. So join us as Miranda delves into the dark world of Hunter Biden and the corrupt world of his father Joe Biden.
 
It is an absolute delight to have Miranda Devine with us today. Miranda thank you for your time today.
Thanks for having me, Peter.[1:47] Not at all. I had the pleasure of seeing you in CPAC and also in Miami a month earlier.So it's absolutely wonderful.And we have touched on Hunter Biden before. We have had Phelim McAleer before.And we so we've looked at a little bit before, but I've had great fun reading through the laptop from hell.I will get into that. Your handle @MirandaDivine.There is your Twitter handle and all the links to the book and everything else are in the description.[2:20] Now I think in the intro you say that a month before the 2020 election, I think it was you talked about Rudy Giuliani emailing you with info from the Hunter Biden laptop. Was that your dissent into Hunter Biden's world?
 
Yes it was. It was actually Rudy Giuliani's lawyer at the time, Bob Costello and he texted me some just a few choice grabs from the laptop and he said it was late at night I think a Friday night and he said I'm just sending you this so you know that it's legitimate and let's talk. This is you know he'd spent the past since the end of August this was now, the beginning of October, he'd spent all that time just verifying as best he could that this was real, that the laptop repair shop owner who had sent him the material, sent him the hard drive[3:24] was a legitimate person, and he was satisfied to the extent that he felt that he could approach the New York Post. And so I guess that was the beginning of it and of course, you know, when we published, I mean it was a legitimate story, it's been proven over and over again since then that the emails that we published were real, but we were immediately censored.[3:53] Well, you talk about that as being kind of a moment that made you kind of become curious in the issue because when I guess a story is censored you begin to ask why it's been censored.So was it that that kind of perked up your interest in this, curious to find out why it was being restricted.
Oh no, I mean I knew from the minute that, you know, we got a look at what was on the laptop that this was a bombshell story. So there was no question that the story was huge and, you know, all credit to my editors for having the courage to publish it where no one else would and all credit to my colleagues, particularly Emma Jo Morris, for actually digging down and getting the story out there. So look, there was no question in any of our minds that this was an enormous story that showed corruption at the very highest levels in Joe Biden's campaign. And we're talking about one of the two candidates for president, and we felt that it was important that the American people had[5:03] all the evidence at their disposal about the characters of both men, so that they could form an educated judgment about who to vote for, but unfortunately that wasn't possible because of the heavy-handed intervention of big tech. And so I think what changed for me there was just I knew that we were going to get a lot of pushback and criticism for publishing the story, particularly from the Biden campaign, which refused, remember at the time, to engage on this at all other than than to tell other media organisations that it wasn't true, that Joe Biden had never met with Hunter Biden's business partner from Ukraine in Washington, DC, as we had shown through this email or a couple of emails that he wasn't the big guy who was getting 10% from this Chinese business deal, et cetera.He swore blind that he knew nothing about his son Hunter's business dealings and that our stories were wrong. And of course, you know, with time that's just[6:07] proven to be completely wrong and even the New York Times and the Washington Post had to admit it.But I guess we knew we were going to come in for some stiff opposition. What we didn't anticipate was that Twitter and Facebook would shut us down within hours of the story going live. You know, this was an extraordinary intervention into the free press by these unaccountable oligopolies.And, you know, shortly after they did that to us, they said they threw the sitting president of the United States off their platforms.And that frightened even, you know, Emmanuel Macron in France, because world leaders were looking at this and saying, if these companies have the power to unseat, de-platform the leader of the free world, what else can they do?
Absolutely. Could I ask about your, I mean, your journalistic background is substantial.I mean, Boston Herald, Daily Telegraph, The Sun, Sunday Times, and now with New York Post.Did, I mean, your experience as a journalist, did it not make you question going up against this subject, which is right at the heart of the, I guess, the American establishment?[7:33] What do you mean? Like not wanting to do it? I mean I would have thought that any journalist would want to do this story once that they had confirmed that it was real. I just, I don't see, you know, I wouldn't care if it was about Joe Biden or Donald Trump. I mean it's a really important story that goes to the heart of American national security. Here is a situation where Joe Biden has lied about his involvement in his family's influence peddling scheme that was running throughout his vice presidency and in fact he's run some form of influence peddling via his family for four decades out of Delaware. And so you know I think that's a really important story and it's just the sort of story that journalists are supposed to do without fear or favour. So I mean whether you have a lot of experience or a little experience.[8:30] I think it's just crystal clear that this is a bombshell story and that's why it's even more inexplicable that you know these news organisations like the New York Times with enormous resources, way more resources, way more investigative reporters than we have at the New your post.They really have done very little with this story. They ignored it initially.You can almost forgive them for ignoring it before the election because the stakes were so high.They didn't have the hard drive.They hadn't had the benefit that we had of the early, you know, the head start.But it took them then, I think, 19 months, the New York Times, to even acknowledge that this was a real laptop and that the material on it was legitimate and authentic and that it raised questions for Joe Biden is something that they just wouldn't tackle.[9:24] The New York Times published a story acknowledging that these emails were real, but it buried it in like the 23rd paragraph of the story on page A19, I think.And after that, then that was sort of the green light for the Washington Post and CNN and so on to follow up.But all of them had this boilerplate paragraph in their stories, there is no evidence this has anything to do with Joe Biden.There's so much evidence, ample evidence. That was our entire stories, everything I've ever reported from this laptop has been about Joe Biden.It's not about Hunter Biden, who is a poor, sad soul. You know, he was a crack addict throughout this.[10:08] You know, most of this nine year period that his laptop covers.You know, he had his personal life was in turmoil. Split from his wife, he was undergoing an acrimonious divorce.He had, despite the millions of dollars that was coming into his coffers from China and Russia and Ukraine and Kazakhstan and elsewhere around the world, he had serious money difficulties.He also seemed to have some sort of a sex addiction, judging from the amount of hookers that he was ordering online and sex cams and you know homemade porn etc. So this was a very troubled person and you know I feel sorry for him. I think that there is room for people to have some sympathy for this very troubled soul and wish him the best. He says now that he's clean and let's hope that that's the case. But where I think there is no sympathy and should be none is with regards to Joe Biden, Hunter Biden's father, who deputised his drug-addicted son to go and be the bag man for the family in these countries carrying the Biden name.[11:22] And reaping millions of dollars from America's adversaries. That is something that he has, it's unequivocal that he's lied about it.So what I think the Republicans in Congress are trying to do is nail down the money trail.They're doing a pretty good job of that now systematically. And also ask the questions about whether or not Joe Biden compromised America's national security and is now tailoring foreign policy because of this influence peddling scheme that was so lucrative for his family.
At the beginning, I find myself actually chuckling, probably laughing a little bit, reading the first few chapters. You've got the interaction, and it is a dark comedy.It's tragic, with, I guess, Hunter playing this hapless villain, I guess, in it.[12:22] I don't know whether you meant to inject some of that dark humour or whether I was just being heartless reading it.I'm not sure, but yeah, let us know how you put that together because I found some of the interactions and the messages, you obviously have taken that from the laptop and put that down, and it was kind of comically sad, I guess.
Yeah, I think that's a good way of describing it. It really is.You know, some of the situations that Hunter gets himself into are, you know, if they were in a movie, you would be laughing out loud. And it is a black comedy.He just is this sort of... He and his uncle Jim just bumble their way around the world and they're, you know, they're in palaces and sumptuous mansions of oligarchs and eating chicken feet in high-flying skyscrapers in private clubs of Chinese military people who are in the inner orbit of Xi Jinping.[13:29] Who end up then disappearing.You know, it seems I feel like with Hunter Biden that he's like one of those characters in a sort of cops and robbers blow him up movie where the main character just, you know, all around him there are cars blowing up and buildings on fire and he just walks through the smoke and emerges unscathed. And all around him everyone was going to jail, getting killed, getting locked up, you know, getting into all sorts of trouble, and he just seemed to emerge unscathed.[14:07] You know, there's a lot of speculation people I've talked to in, who know about, you know, intelligence services and how they operate, who would say to me that there's no way that the son of the Vice President mixing in those circles that he was in the inner sanctum of Xi Jinping in China and Vladimir Putin in Russia, going, you know, to Lake Como to mingle with oligarchs and and Hong Kong and Shanghai, I mean, Monte Carlo.[14:39] This is the most incredible international story of intrigue and mystery and danger.And that there's no way that the US intelligence services would not have been keeping an eye on Hunter.And it did feel like he had a guardian angel. Every time he was in a scrape about to come unstuck, suddenly he's okay, he's back stateside and everything's hunky-dory and he's ordering[15:06] crack from his dealer again and meanwhile off the laptop goes, you know, the super chairman or someone else, you know, that maybe he's been warned off, you know, don't mix with that person that's going to get you into trouble. I don't really know what went on behind the scenes but we also know he had various contacts in the FBI. So that's a whole new story I think that will be unraveled potentially by another committee the Republicans have set up which is the weaponization of the federal government which is looking, among other things, looking at how the FBI covered up the story of the laptop.
 
Yeah, completely. This is the laptop from hell with[15:50] A hunter looking quite rugged there with a cigarette. Many images of him, but some of the stories you put through the book are of him being, as you said, being rescued by Secret Service, I guess. Especially at times where he shouldn't have had protection. There was no reason for him to have that protection, and yet they seem to be there to help him out of different situations he find himself in?
 
Yeah, look, there could be a couple of reasons for that. There are some invoices on the laptop that show that a couple of these former Secret Service people, including a very high-ranking guy who had been the head of the Vice President's Secret Service detail when Joe Biden was in office, and they actually had gone into private practice and Hunter Biden and his brother Jim Biden had hired them to go and do some due diligence on some of,[16:53] for prospective business partners and so there was an invoice for a few hundred dollars or a few thousand dollars that hadn't been paid. This is why it sort of came to the attention or came to my attention because there were various emails going backwards and forwards between Jim and Hunter about who should pay this money. I mean it was it was months and months overdue which was not uncommon. There are a lot of bills including with Joe Biden that seem just not to get paid or to be very, very late being paid.And I'm told by some people in Wilmington, Delaware, where Joe Biden lives, that a lot of the local tradesmen just don't get paid.There seems to be this sort of expectation from the Bidens that it's such an honour to do work for them that you shouldn't expect to get any money for it.But that's one reason. And then, you know, another reason is, I think, we know that there was one scandal where Hunter Biden's lover at the time, Hallie Biden, who was actually the widow of his late brother, Beau, they were living together off and on.They had a very volatile relationship.And for reasons we still don't know, Hunter decided to buy a gun at a store in Delaware.[18:11] And shortly after he bought it, Hallie seemed to get worried about what he might do with it.And so she drove it to the local shopping centre and threw it in a garbage bin, a trash can.And then she tells Hunter, or Hunter looks for his gun, he can't find it, and she says, oh, I threw it in the trash can. So he says, go back and get it.She goes back, it's gone. A homeless guy's found it.[18:34] So then the cops have to come. And it's not just the local cops, it's the state police, it's the FBI.And what's really quite sinister is that two men who said they were from the Secret Service flashed a Secret Service badge, went to the gun shop and demanded the papers, the background check papers, the paperwork that Hunter had filled out to do with the gun, which of course if he took that away there's no proof that he ever bought the gun and so to his credit the gun shop owner said no I can't do that because he's worried that he's going to lose his license if something terrible happens with that gun. But you know when we ask the secret service why did you do that, Hunter Biden was not under secret service protection, his father was out of office, etc. The secret services, we did have nothing to do with that, that wasn't us. So maybe it was ex-secret service people presenting themselves as secret service. I'm told that the former secret service agents still have a badge, it's a different type, but a smaller badge than the real one but I guess how would you know the layperson and so maybe these are former Secret Service people. We do know one other thing which is that Joe Biden...[19:52] But we know this from the laptop too. Joe Biden really sucked up and curried favour with the Secret Service people around him.He, you know, in his... Before he became a sort of defund the police guy, he...now he's back to his original persona, which was as a, you know, as a working-class Joe who's all for the cops.And so he had support from police unions and so on previously, not in the 2020 election, but he did things, Hunter tells us in various emails, like he would[20:32] get Secret Service agents, kids into elite colleges that they wouldn't be able to get into otherwise, or do other favours that they're not really bribery because it's not really cash, But it's just favour trading, which is what Joe Biden specialises in, using his power to, get things happening for people who otherwise wouldn't be able to avail themselves of that, those kind of perks. So, and then we also know that the guy who was the head of his Secret Service detail, his, one of his parents died, I think it was his father died somewhere in the Midwest.And Joe and Jill Biden flew on Air Force Two to that funeral.And so, you know, that kind of gesture really engenders a lot of loyalty in people, particularly people who are in service jobs.And so I think, you know, it was probably a combination of maybe paying people to look after you, but also just vestigial loyalty to Joe Biden.[21:40] There's another thing that keeps coming up and it's the amount of money.And I had no idea until I was going to it.Eva just at the beginning, the first couple of pages you talk about.[21:54] Talk about one overcast day, Hunter's catching up on porn, he spent $1,000 on his Wells Fargo debit card.Annoyingly, Wells Fargo keeps sending alerts. He's tripping his card limit of $65,000.You then talk about him getting invoices of 82,500 retainers from international business development.Then he says, he talks about his balance shows 1 million, but there's a debit of 2 million.I mean, they're crazy sums of money to any average person reading this.I mean, tell us about that. I guess the greed involved.
Yeah, and the chaotic lifestyle that Hunter had, I mean, there were millions of dollars coming in.[22:41] But, you know, I think his alimony was 30 or 40 thousand dollars a month. He had this heavy crack addict habit. He had various households that, I mean, there was his, Hallie Biden's family that he presumably, I mean I know that they shared a credit card and they were running up $250,000 a year on one Amex and they put everything, you know, all their kind of working, living expenses seemed to go on the Amex. He had very lavish tastes in clothes, like his father, he would go to, you know men's boutiques in midtown Manhattan or on Madison Avenue and think nothing of spending, you know, five grand, ten grand here on a coat, on a jacket or, you know, a tie.[23:33] And so he just spent like he was the big spender, but he always seemed to have money problems.And I think part of that was because the money that was coming in wasn't all for him.And I'll give you a perfect example.And this is just from the very new bank records that were[23:58] put out the other day by James Comer, the head of the Oversight Committee, the Republicans who were looking into the money trail of the Biden's. So he's found, we already knew that there were these two, three million dollar payments from the Chinese energy company that paid the Biden's millions of dollars, but these two, three million dollar wires went to Hunter's business partner in in Arkansas, a guy called Rob Walker.And so we always knew that that money was destined for Hunter, but we never could see how it made its way there.And so what James Comer has found, at least with one of these $3 million wires, he's only been able to find one, that $1 million went to the Biden family, 1,065,000.And it was split up between four Biden's. So there was Hunter Biden, his uncle Jim Biden, who's Joe's younger brother, Hallie Biden, who I told you that sister-in-law turned lover, and then another fourth unnamed Biden.It's just on the wire, it just says Biden.And so, and these payments were made over three months in small dribs and drabs.[25:13] Presumably to keep them away from authorities.Didn't work because the reason we know about them is that the banks, it tripped some suspicion in the banks automatically and so they had to file suspicious activity reports with the Treasury.So we know from that $1 million, Hunter got about a third of it, I think[25:37] From that money, you know, so there's three million and he's getting about 400,000.And so he's told his business partners that $800,000 a year is not enough for him to live.So really he was burning through cash and what would have seemed, you know, to any normal person, a huge amount of money to him was barely enough.And then remember, he, it was supposed to pay tax on this money.And obviously he was not good at paying his taxes because this is one of the issues that the IRS and the US Attorney in Delaware is looking at him for is tax evasion, alleged tax evasion, alleged money laundering and foreign agent violations to do with his foreign businesses.And we know that he's paid back, I'm told $2.8 million to the IRS.So that means, you know, he earned five and a half million to owe that.And, you know, he earned a lot more than that, we know.[26:43] But, and also, I mean, maybe he's having to pay tax for money that he never received that went to other members of the family, you know?So he does feel sorry for himself a lot in the laptop and he talks about giving half his money to his father.Bitterly he complains about that. And he bitterly complains about having carried or supported the rest of the family all the time. And this is a guy that wanted to be an artist or an author.[27:13] And instead he was put to work straight out of Yale, that his father got him into Yale Law School, pulling some strings. So he gets straight out of Yale and goes into this inflated salary job for for one of his father's,you know, donors in Delaware, but boring job. And that's been his life, doing a series of boring jobs and inflated salaries, getting, you know, various sinecures and, you know, like the Ukraine Burisma board appointment for a million dollars a year, a huge amounts of money. But he's got to share that with the rest of the family. So you see him spiral down into addiction and chaos.And he's bitter and angry all the way, and particularly when it comes to that period when he abandoned his laptop in Delaware at that laptop repair shop. He's really in a rage at that time and feels that his family doesn't respect him and doesn't appreciate all he's done for them.
Obviously Joe Biden is the figure that's behind a lot of it and one of the quotes is Don't worry about investors, Jim Biden would say, according to an unnamed executive quoted by Politico.We've got people all around the world who want to invest in Joe Biden. None of what happened to Hunter, I guess, was because of Hunter's brilliance. It was all to do with his father.[28:42] Oh, absolutely. And, you know, this is influence peddling. I mean, this is a a Washington DC wide disease and it's bipartisan.Both sides do it. How many, you know, look at Nancy Pelosi. I mean, look at so many of these Republican and Democratic politicians who go to Washington and become very rich by the time they leave.It's really unseemly and disgusting. Joe Biden lives an incredibly lavish lifestyle And it would be impossible to sustain that on a senator's salary for 40 years plus.So I think it's been out there in plain sight and it's a terrible thing.Washington is very corrupt and I'm not sure that there's appetite on either side to clean it up.[29:41] What's special about Joe Biden is, for one thing, he's really the master of influence peddling through his family.And secondly, as vice president and now as president, he is crucial to our national security because as vice president, Barack Obama deputized him to be his man in charge of China and Ukraine and various other parts of the world.And Joe Biden was given some very important tasks when it came to China.He was supposed to stop China militarising the South China Sea and threatening America's allies there.And he was supposed to stop China from stealing America's intellectual property.I mean, this was 2013.This was a time when China was really ramping up its aggressive tactics.And it could have been nipped in the bud there and then.[30:45] But Joe Biden did nothing. He got nothing out of it. All that happened was his family was bought off.And when Hunter Biden flew into Beijing on Air Force Two with the vice president, it was crystal clear to the Chinese what that meant. This was a princeling. Hunter Biden was a princeling like the princelings in China who are related to the top CCP officials. And this was American power come to do private business and private business happened. Joe Biden shook the hand of Hunter's now new business partner, and Hunter left and within a few days, he had 10% stake in a Chinese business which had two and a half billion dollars funds under management at one point. I mean it doesn't mean he had 10% of 2.5 billion but he had 10% of whatever the profits were. We still don't know how much that's worth. It's been estimated, I think Peter Schweitzer estimated it at 20 million[31:48] dollars, could be less, could be more. Hunter Biden's lawyers keep vaguely saying he's divested himself of that fund, but there's no actual evidence of that. It's still listed on the Chinese stock exchange websites as being owned, 10% owned, by Hunter Biden's company, and Hunter Biden still owns that company, Skinny Atlas, even though he hasn't, I mean, it's gone dormant, I think, because he probably hasn't paid some bills. So, I think that's the kind of thing you know, it's pretty worrying that the son of the President, if he still owns that 10%, is in business with the Chinese Communist Party. And all we get from the White House and from Joe Biden is lies and stonewalling. So that's why this is an important story. It's not about Hunter Biden. I wish him the best. It's about the President and whether he's compromised. And and that's why the Republicans are going down this path of trying to find where the money went.[32:52] One of the chapters, The Delaware Way, I guess, looks at what Joe Biden has done, how he has built up that influence over, what, 35 years as a senator, and has taken that influence, that peddling, global, I guess, with the Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan.I mean, what do you mean by The Delaware Way?
Well that was a phrase that was coined by a prosecutor actually many moons ago, I can't remember what it was, the 80s or the 90s I think, and they were investigating some irregularities with one of Joe Biden's re-election campaigns and there was a family called Tagani, there were a wealthy beer brewing family from the area, a young guy called Chris Tagani about the age of Joe's sons and he was sort of turned witness for the prosecutors, wore a wire to try and[33:54] see if the Biden's were doing illegal things to do with, you know, funding the Joe's campaign.Well, turned out that he didn't manage to find anything and he went to jail. But during the prosecution, one of the prosecutors described this sort of cosy quid pro quo relationship that goes on in Delaware politics as the Delaware way. It's you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.And there's something really insidious about Delaware. It's a very small state, doesn't have much in the way of an economy apart from the fact that it is the headquarters for practically every corporate in the country, because it's kind of described as the Virgin Islands of America because it has a very opaque, that sort of corporate structure and you can't see who owns companies and so on. So it makes it very easy for the Biden's to sort of hide[34:53] money but more importantly what it did for Joe Biden when he arrived as a 30 year old senator was he was being oppressed by a lot of very powerful, very wealthy people to do favours for them in the Senate and as he became more and more powerful in the Senate he was chairman of two very powerful committees, the Judiciary Committee and the Foreign Affairs Committee for many years, those favours became bigger and bigger and his power grew and he was really king of the castle in Delaware and despite really,the state not amounting to very much, he was in this unique position.And so that was why when his donors, you know, were offering to buy houses from him or sell houses to him, or give his family jobs and inflated salaries, that was all of great benefit to him.And in return, you can see policies that he was pushing that seemed to benefit his donors.But whether or not you can really draw the line and accuse him of a crime is a whole other matter.But certainly that's the Delaware way.[36:08] What about you personally as you delved into this? You come face to face with Hunter Biden, a tragic story, and then Joe Biden, absolute power, corruption. What was your takeaway from going into this? Because I guess when you begin to research something, you don't know where it's going to lead. So what were your kind of takeaway thoughts as you did the research and you put the book together?
 
Well it was just so much bigger than I had ever imagined. I mean I remember there was one night I just pushed myself away from the desk and had to and clear my head because I could not believe what I discovered. And it's not just from the laptop, you have to understand that this is also material from Tony Bobulinski, who's Hunter Biden's former business partner. It's, you know, had the contents of his three devices that he'd given to the FBI.It's also a lot of financial records that came from[37:11] Chuck Graslie and Ron Johnson, the two Republican senators who were very prescient back in mid-2020, they were investigating Hunter Biden's role in Burisma. Their report was, I think, Hunter Biden, Burisma and corruption. And that was the Ukrainian company that was paying him $83,000 a month for, basically nothing. And so they had a lot of treasury records. And also speaking to, to various sources off the record.You piece together this jigsaw puzzle and when I realized just how enormous the China deals were, there's one deal where Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin[37:59] get together and this company, CEFC, that was paying Hunter and Jim Biden millions of dollars, their partner in China was brokering this deal for China to buy a $9 billion chunk of the Russia state-owned oil company, energy company, Rosneft.And this would have shifted the geopolitical tectonic plates in a way that was very detrimental to the United States.I mean, it's along the lines of what's happening now with Russia and China getting into bed over Ukraine, but this is on energy.And really a very damaging thing that Joe Biden's son and brother were part of.They were helping broker it.[38:50] And they would have profited from it. So it's incredible that the whole thing fell apart when the Trump administration now had come into office.And for whatever reason, the FBI arrested one of Hunter Biden's Chinese business partners from this company, CEFC at JFK.And this is a case where we're now told by, this is a whole another weird part of the story that's just happened in the last couple of weeks, but there's a, an Israeli scientist, but also former high ranking officer in the Israeli defence forces, who has just been arrested in Cyprus a few weeks ago, on suspicion of gun running charges and is about to be extradited back to the United States and he's still in jail.But I've talked to his lawyer. His lawyer says that Hunter Biden had a mole, an FBI mole called One Eye, who tipped off his Chinese partners from CFC that the FBI was investigating them.And sure enough, I mean, there's some evidence on the laptop that corroborates part of his story.And part of that is that[40:08] just shortly before Patrick Ho was arrested at JFK by the FBI in 2017, Hunter was invited to the palatial penthouse in Manhattan of the boss of CEFC, a guy called Chairman Yee, and offered $1 million to be his legal counsel in case he got into any trouble.And then Chairman Yee skedaddled it back to Shanghai and according to this Israeli, told Patrick Ho that the coast was clear for him to come back to New York.And as soon as Patrick Ho arrives in New York, he gets arrested on bribery charges.And what the Israeli says is that Patrick Ho was the fall guy.He was sort of the sacrificial lamb to the FBI.[41:00] And so, there again, we come back full circle to what we were first talking about, Hunter Biden having protection from the FBI, the Secret Service. He certainly had connections at the FBI. We do know that because after Patrick Ho was arrested, there's an email showing that he'd contacted his FBI sources about how to help Patrick Ho.
To finish, the book has been out a year. What has been the response?And also the second part, how does that fit into a Republican-controlled Congress? Because you've given them a manuscript, you've said here is the evidence in a 200-page book, you can now run with this. So what was the response coming out a year ago and how can it be used by, I guess, the Republicans now in charge of the House.[41:57] Well, it's been an amazing bestseller. I mean, it just keeps on selling even today.It's still in hardcover and, you know, it was on the list apart from, of course, the New York Times.And so I think, you know, the reviews on Amazon from regular people have been good.I mean, I think it's like 4.6 out of 5 and 10,000 reviews.And the feedback I get is that people appreciate it because it's such a complicated story and this is sort of putting it into narrative form.James Comer has told me, who's the head of the oversight committee, that he loved it, he read it.I think it's just useful in terms of just itemizing what's important on the laptop.There's a lot of extraneous material And I think a mistake that a lot of people have made is to get caught up on the sort of sex and drugs and rock and roll part of it. There's no crimes there. It's sad. It's dysfunctional.But it's irrelevant. It's just gossip. What's important is the financial and international[43:13] schemes that the Biden family was involved in. Excuse me.
No, absolutely. Well, to the viewers and listeners, you can get it. It is available hardback, it is available paperback, it is available audiobook, and also on Kindle. I personally like getting a paper copy so I can make notes.
It's not paperback yet, unfortunately. Oh, sorry, sorry, sorry.Yeah, but it's still hardcover, ebook, and Kindle.
 
I warn the viewers that actually often I read books for interviewing and sometimes you find them too intriguing and this was one of those that actually I ended up marking far too much in the book that there's so much information. But Miranda, thank you for coming on and sharing about the experience of putting that together and sharing the story. Thank you so much.
Thanks Peter, great to talk to you.
Thank you so much.

The Week According To . . . Gareth Icke

Welcome to our weekend jaunt into the news, headlines and talking points that have caught our eye over the past seven days, and we are delighted to welcome a previous guest and a good friend of Hearts of Oak, Gareth Icke.Gareth's desire to uncover the truth is very refreshing so we look forward to hearing his thoughts on our topics this episode including...- When 'Safe and Effective' becomes 'Neither Safe nor Effective'.- Transgender MMA fighter beats opponent in seconds, fracturing her skull in the process.- Nobody is after your kids?- Canadian "they/them" politician proposes to criminalize "offensive remarks" within 100 meters of a Drag Queen Story Hour.- Dylan Thomas, Bud Light and The Babylon Bee wins again.- Robert F. Kennedy Jr announces he will run against Biden for the Democratic Presidential nomination.- COVID jabs to be given to vulnerable babies aged between 6 months and 4 years old.- Excess deaths doubled in Japan in 2022.- WHO warns one in six infertile worldwide.- Scottish National Party auditors quit amid Nicola Sturgeon's husband's police investigation.Gareth Icke is an activist, a singer/songwriter, an author, a former international beach soccer player, the presenter of ‘Right Now’, an uncensored current affairs show on the Ickonic Network and is also the son of the legendary truth warrior David Icke.He has been attending protests and rallies since he was a small boy and he's worked tirelessly in the movement for truth and continues to do so through docu-series, films, books, podcasts, rallies, speaking engagements and much more.Gareth's weekly show, 'Right Now', goes out every Friday at 7pm on ickonic.com.It gives guests from all over the world a chance to say their bit, covering a huge range of subjects that the mainstream doesn’t want you to hear about.Follow and support Gareth at the following links.....WEBSITEShttp://www.ickonic.com/http://garethicke.com/SOCIAL MEDIA, VIDEO AND MUSICGETTR: https://www.gettr.com/user/garethickeTWITTER: http://www.twitter.com/garethickeGAB: https://gab.com/garethickeTELEGRAM: http://t.me/garethickeMINDS: https://www.minds.com/garethicke/YOUTUBE: http://www.youtube.com/garethicke21SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/artist/0NoR3Ss4kvKyZMwv0vAQn3Originally broadcast live 8.4.23
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[0:22] And it is absolutely wonderful to have Gareth Icke back with us once again.Gareth, thank you for your time today.
Oh mate, thanks for having me. I had a wonderful time chatting to you in Gibraltar.So it's nice to be back together again.
We did have good fun in Gibraltar and if people haven't seen that, you need to get a hold.We certainly live streamed, I know Gareth has put out stuff on social media of that packed gathering.[0:47] And it was a great evening. The first time I think Gibraltar had heard some of those stories in a live event.So certainly well worth. And it was also nice and sunny, wasn't it, Gareth?
It was. It's nice to get some sun on your skin.
It was. It feels like the longest winter in the world. It was good.
You can obviously follow Gareth at @GarethIcke, is the Twitter handle, and at Ickonic, and that will take you through to all of those.And maybe if we can start with Ickonic as an introduction, if there are others who do not follow you.This is a interview you did with Lisa Copeland, who's vaccine injured in Gibraltar.And the event in Gibraltar was to publicize what's happening but also to talk to those who have suffered.So maybe you can just touch on this, Gareth, and let people have an idea of what they can find on Ickonic.
Well, yeah, I mean, it was a really interesting interview. Lisa's lovely.She's a young, kind of looking fit, looking active person who suddenly had, I mean, I can't remember how old she is, I think she's early 50s, had three heart attacks after having the jab.[2:01] And she kind of, after one heart attack, didn't put two and two together, as people don't necessarily.And it was actually a nurse that told her, you do realize why this is happening.And then she had another heart attack and it was a consultant cardiologist who said, you do realise why this is happening. So there is knowledge within the medical profession.And she then had a third heart attack and thank goodness she's still with us, you know.[2:29] But she's one of countless, countless, countless. And it's the thing that Gibraltar that was interesting is, you know, there was kind of pelters thrown on social media. Why are you going to Gibraltar?Why Gibraltar? Why Gibraltar?And then I put a picture up of me and Dr. David Cartland sat by the pool because we had one day, there was one day where we didn't have anything.So we just sat by the pool and I saw the comments that were, oh my, that's why you're going to Gibraltar.But it wasn't that, it was because Gibraltar is actually a very important place.It was Gibraltar that was the first place that the vaccine went.The RAF flew in all these doses of the vaccine to into Gibraltar.Matt Hancock stood up and said they have 100% uptake, which is a lie, but it's Matt Hancock.So of course it's a lie.And then what they did is they then showed footage of people out and about in bars in Gibraltar.And it was very much the, here's what you could have won.If you will just go and take this jab these wonderful Gibraltarians have done, then you can get your life back. And you know, countless, people would have gone and got it based on that. But having spoken to people in Gibraltar, that was just nonsense. That's what they were doing anyway. They didn't have these, you know, they had one hard lockdown, I think, and then the others were just kind of, yeah, maybe a little bit, like they weren't anything like what we had. So they conned the British public and they conned the world, because we were the first people to roll these things out. The rest of the world, look, oh, look, Gibraltar's got 100% uptake and they're all fine, they're great.[3:57] But actually they're not and there's lots of vaccine injuries.Lisa is just one of many and there's absolutely no yellow card system in Gibraltar.There's no VAERS system or anything, there's nothing, there's nothing that they can do. And so, when we spoke to, it was very strange because Gibraltar is such a small country, we were just all sat around and this guy came and joined us and I bought him a pint because I was going up to get everyone a drink and I sort of, as you do, if someone's with you, even though I didn't know who he was, I was like, oh do you want a drink? And he went, oh yeah I'll have a pint of lager please, so I got him a beer. Turns out he works for the health minister out in Gibraltar and he acknowledged the fact that there's these vaccine injuries. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we know, yeah, you know, And then he said that basically for any compensation, for people to get any compensation whatsoever, they have to basically jump through hoops, go up, stand on the moon on their head for 20 minutes and come back down. It's just ridiculous, it's just not going to happen. And then went on to say, you know, basically along the lines of, you know, it's above my pay grade. At which point, I think Dr David Cartland just got up and walked off and went, I can't deal with this.[5:04] It's the ridiculousness of it, isn't it? You know.It's worldwide all the same.
No, but well done getting that interview and putting it out because it's important for those in Gibraltar to hear what is happening in the country because we hear often what is happening in the UK, in different parts of Europe, but it's important to hear of a country that's supposedly 100% vaccinated, what could go wrong?And we can chat about what's going wrong because we're not on YouTube.So it is absolutely beautiful.
You know, it wasn't 100%. That was a lie because there were people at the event, people that put on the event that haven't had a single jab so that's nonsense but at the same time if you if you were pushing for a hundred percent and say you got that there's no control group.And that's ridiculous with anything, to not have a control group for an experimental medical treatment. It's just insanity.[5:55] Completely insanity. We will get into some other insanity as well.I just want to say there's Jackie DuBois watching on Facebook. Great to have you Jackie.Let me look on GETTR. Neil Cain was first in, evening guys, watching on GETTR.Living Truth 21 Ireland from Dublin, Gareth 1965, HW Logan, sorry it's moving quite fast now, Paul, who else, Nick Bumble, Charlotte, Baroness of Burnley, hi Charlotte, Yusel, lots of people, thank you so much and I will see if I can pull in a few of those as we go along. But talking about madness, let's go to the transgenderism stuff.This was a video that you put up, and I think you'd retweeted.But I think also it's it's of an older fight and not the most recent one.But Projam, if I can bring it up and you can play that for us.Can you play that?[7:03] Fox. Oh, that's it, fell in, Fox. Holy cow! Game over.Wow. And a quick finish to it.[7:14] Winner's $20,000 championship tournament fight. The winner is, one more time, Alistair Quince. Or, Fox. How you feeling?[7:25] Right, so the Gwyneth Tawd, this was a fight, I think it might have been started a couple of years ago, but transgender MMA fighter, Fallon Fox, beats opponent in 39 seconds, fracturing her skull.And it's what we're seeing in events, which women are participating against someone who is not a woman but is a bloke and huge danger for women in these sports and obviously in a sport like that there's a lot of physical force and aggression and I really am concerned as the transgender movement grows in the sporting arena what could happen to women.
 
It's insanity, there's no other word for it mate, it's absolutely what you've got is you've got a lad and obviously it cut off at the point just before he started speaking. It's a fella with a fella's voice. You know, so, okay, so Stan Collymore then after he gave Urika Johnson a slap and it was all over the papers, he should have just said he was a woman.I'm a woman. And then everyone would have gone, it's fine. Sorry, that's fine. Don't worry about, it. It's just insanity. You know, men are physically stronger than women. That's just, that's how it is. And so you're allowing a man to beat the living hell out of a woman.That is just literally insanity and we're supposed to be going along with it. And anyone that[8:49] disagrees with it is a bigot or a fascist. That gets shouted out a lot. Not sure how they've sort of squared that circle. But at the end of the day it's like any of these things. When insanity is allowed to happen and it's allowed to carry on and it's being affirmed, that's the whole terminology behind this insanity. In the end bad things happen and you know what it did there, she got a fractured skull but what next? What will go further than that? So all of a sudden the next one's dead and then do you draw the line? Probably not. So then how many, how many, how many? It will get to a point unfortunately where such horrific things will happen that that's when people will go oh actually maybe, maybe this is a bad idea. So it was always a bad idea and anyone with a rational thought in their head knew it was a bad idea. You know, men, rapists that commit rape against a woman and then go, actually no, sorry my name's Julie now, and they get put in prison with women.[9:49] I mean, honestly, if you went back 20 years and you said, in 20 years time, this is what's going to happen.They'd put you in a padded cell.They'd be like, no, he's a maniac.He's a maniac. But that's exactly what's happening. And it's normal.And it's this, like I keep saying, you've got to affirm something.But it's insanity. Why would you affirm insanity? If a bulimic person or an anorexic person came in, like three stone wet, gone and just said, I'm fat. What do you do then? Yeah, your massive love, huge. Is that what you're supposed to do?Because that's what we're doing in this sense. We're just affirming, we're agreeing with insanity, which means no one's getting help with any of the mental issues that they're going through.And so it's just going, just going unchecked, unchecked, unchecked. And then what happens?Then you end up with three dead children and three dead teachers. Because someone who's really mentally ill doesn't get the help they need.[10:45] The quote from, I think this was in 2014 when it happened and it could have happened again, but 2014, the quote from the female, who had her skull broken by the male pretending to be a female was, "'I fought a lot of women and have never felt the strength "'that I felt in a fight as I did that night.' "'I can't answer whether it's because she was born a man.'" she was part of my, that'll be a man, or because I'm not a doctor, I can only say I've never felt so overpowered ever in my life.[11:19] And that is when a woman goes up to fight a man who's much more well-built, it is overwhelming force.But as Jackie comments, the female competitors didn't complain or boycott.That's the concerning thing, that they don't stand up I guess a fear of what being cancelled is better than ending up dead, I guess.
Well, there is a fear of being cancelled and if you look at, in America, where they have these track meets and they have these scholarships and things that are based on athletics, they are told to shut their mouths.People have come out and said, if I say anything, I will lose my scholarship.So there's a war on women. I mean, there's a war on kids. That's been going on for a long time.There's an absolute war on women in so many different ways.And this is just one aspect of it.And it's extraordinary to me because you go back just before Rona, during the hashtag Me Too movement, toxic masculinity, men, big, burly, horrible men, too much testosterone, hairy faces and arses, they were the problem.They were pushing women down. They were doing this and they were doing that.Well, now all it is is very feminine men that call themselves she, her in their bio.Now they're doing it to women.It's the same thing. It's exactly the same thing, but no one's saying anything, which is extraordinary.And so, but it never, it doesn't end in a good way.[12:48] This is the problem because not only will someone in the ring in an MMA fight or whatever else, end up getting killed, because that's what will happen if you fight people that are a lot stronger than you.I mean, that's why welterweights don't fight heavyweights, because they would kill them probably, because there's a strength, huge strength difference between the two of them.But on the other end of the spectrum, what's going to happen is when you look at, you know, in New Zealand with Posie Parker and the swimmer that's spoken out against transgender Leah Thomas, obviously, America, she got attacked by transgender activists and all this kind of stuff.There seems to be a lot of toxic masculinity around transgender activists for some reason, but what happens then is, okay, some of those women will feel intimidated. I don't think Posey's one of those women to be fair, but some women will feel intimidated and they won't, they're all right, I'm just going to shut my mouth and stay at home, I won't do it. But most won't, most will go, no.[13:48] I'm going to stand up more. But actually, next time we do an event where we want to speak our[13:53] mind and say our piece and speak up for women's rights, I'll bring my husband, or I'll bring[14:00] my dad, or bring my uncle, or bring a couple of mates. And then all of a sudden what you have is a situation, if you look at Posie when she stood there in New Zealand, imagine if Posie had five or six lads with her, pulling back. It's carnage, absolute carnage. And this is the thing as well, I thought I mentioned this actually when Eddie Izzard, that whole thing at the Labour conference where he just walks into a woman's toilet and then just no one says anything. There's a security guard there, no one says a single word. Well what happens then is if I'm in that situation, so I'm stood by the toilet, my daughter goes into the bathroom to go to the toilet and I'm waiting outside and I'll wait outside. If I see Eddie Izzard walk in, my first thought would be to look for the security. Excuse me, a guy's just gone into the toilet and if the security guy goes yeah that's fine. Well then what happens? Do I go oh it's fine then? No I go in. I go in and sort the lad out and that's what people will do. And so again it's and then like Jackie says maybe there's some style to it because it's another way to divide people because most transgender people don't believe in any of this nonsense at all. They don't. They just want to get on with their life like we all do. And well it's the extreme.
 
No completely. Let's look at this which is the trans movement in children, which is the dangerous part. And I think this is the part which will concern us. Projam, do you want to just play that? Don't enlarge it, just play it as it is.[15:27] Small screen.
 
Anybody can do drag. Drag is for anybody and everybody who wants to put on a fun costume and get up on stage and entertain people. Everybody should try drag at least once.[15:38] It's really fun. Even kids? Yeah, there's actually quite a few kids that are starting to do drag.Do dogs do drag?Do dogs do drag?I mean, they can. You can dress a dog up in a dress and take him on stage with you.Anybody can do drag.
 
It's it's bringing in children, normalizing this.[16:00] I wonder what goes inside someone's head to think that should be normal behaviour, sexualizing kids.
Yeah. Why would you do that? And that is actually the main issue that people have.Like the organization Gays Against Groomers, they were started, they were formed based on the fact that actually this is the sexualization of kids.I saw Blair White was tweeting, that at the end of the day, you wanted equality, you got equality, there was one simple rule, just leave the freaking kids alone.You do what you want. If you wanna, just do what you like.Take bits of you off, stick it in the bin, have surgery, don't have surgery, call yourself whatever.I couldn't care less.You know, I honestly, it's none of my business what you do. But just leave the kids alone. And the problem again that will arise is that there's going to be carnage as a result because parents won't have it. They won't have it. Some will, few liberal parents, or so-called liberals. But when you see these drag queen events, you don't see many men there, but you don't see many other ethnicities there either. It's white liberal women that are taking their kids to drag events. Why is that? Why is that? You know, I don't know why that is. But[17:13] you know, what I think will happen with this constant sexualization of kids, and it's one positive actually, is that it will unite. It will unite people because the whole idea in everything is to split people up, just separate, separate, create little divides, little wars, because if we're arguing with each other, we're not looking up going right, sort that guy out. But then when you attack the kids, all those boundaries that we wouldn't normally agree with, because, you know, sexuality, sex, income bracket, colour, creed, political persuasion, all these things that are used to separate us, they go out the window, because we've all got kids. So Steve.[17:53] Who's a labourer, and Dominguez, who is a bloody, you know, professor of whatever, they're completely different in every single way. They probably have nothing in common. If you stuck them together in a bar, well, they would never be in the same bar. But they both got kids. And so actually, no, I'm not having it. And all of a sudden, they're on the same page. And that is one positive to come out of this madness. But the only the only thing then that you ask is, is where does that lead? When these people unite? How does it? How does it look? Because I spoke to Jamie Mitchell of of gays against groomers a couple of days ago, and she was saying her biggest concern is the fact that The LGBT community, which is an annoying term anyway, community as if they're all the same but it's falling.It's falling for the first time in a long time and it's because of these maniacs, these activists.[18:45] And lunatics. That's what's happening and she's saying look you know we wanted equality, we got equality, it's amazing, oh oh and then and then we have it has to go further and more more insane and so she's speaking out about it. Lots well Gays Against Groomers is a collective of the LGBT including trans people, speaking out against all this madness. And they get called, well their[19:09] Wikipedia says they're a far-right anti-LGBT organization, which I mean that's some mental gymnastics that is. So they're being attacked but they are you know doing their job and standing up and fighting and their real concern is one the kids and two the fact that actually their own community is going to get dragged into this. Because these people, these maniacs are doing it in their name?
 
Well I want to jump on to Canada. Pro Jam is that number five video?Not in the Dylan Thomas. I want to look. This is what is happening in Canada.And maybe it is, let me bring it up.[19:54] Give me a moment, let me bring this up. Yes it is, it is, sorry. Do you want to play that, play the top one, it is Canada, so play that.
 
We will not let fear win. A world without trans people has never existed. A world without drag has never existed and it never will.Queer people have always been here amongst us. They are our co-workers, they are our brothers, our sisters, they're our mothers, our fathers, they're our families. Drag is art, drag is culture, drag is educational, drag is creative, drag is comedy, but drag is not a crime.My name is Scarlett Bobo and thank you so much for your time.[20:37] So the setting to this is in Canada where it's been proposed that within 100 meters of any drag show. You cannot say anything that may be interpreted or taken as rude, offensive, transphobic, phobic, common sense thinking, whatever. Now, when I first saw that talk, it did look like a new Marvel film of new superhero characters that was going to, but no, that is actually what's happening, kind of, and that is regarded as the norm. And of course, you know, Jordan Peterson obviously claim to fame initially was against using language, forcing people to use certain language.And it seems, yeah, you could be 99 meters and if you say something, then actually you could be found guilty. And I don't know what the penalty will be for it. But again, criminalizing speech, it is so, so dangerous.[21:31] Yeah. And the thing is, the whole, you know, these people are just being used. The person there, the drag artist there, whatever they are, that's giving that speech there is just being used because as soon as any legislation like that comes through, well then that just goes blanket, that counts for everything.So I think people within that group need to actually be careful what they're pushing for and wishing for because it will come back and bite them in the backside on another occasion because that's how it works.I couldn't take my eyes off the nodding mask wearing ducks in the background.My eyes were instantly drawn to that, just nodding idiots.Canada is madness.When I was younger I used to want to be out in Canada. I love ice and stuff.I went out there a few times. It seemed like a sensible version of the United States for a bit.And now it's just absolutely insane. You know, Fidel Castro's son's gone in there and absolutely just torn it to shreds.[22:35] It's extraordinary that people go along with it for one, but also the fact that, my question is always this, why do you want to, normal drag shows, do what you like, mate.We have hen-dos and stag-dos in there. Like, do you like, the kids bit is the issue.Why do you want to do it around children?Why do you want to wave your arse, your spotty hairy arse in front of a kid while they put dollar bills in your thong and stuff?Why do you want to do that?But not only why do you want to do that, why is it that the state is so obsessed with protecting your right to do it?Given all the other rights that they take off of all of us all the time, particularly Canada, you know, if you donated some money to the truckers, they froze your bank account, right?So there's no rights in Canada unless you want to have the right to wave your fat hairy arse in a kid's face.And for me, you know, I'd love to sit down with one of them and just say, why do you want to put your arse in a kid's face?A genuine question and I will wait for the answer because I have an assumption that my assumption is the fact that you're a bit of a nonce.That's my assumption.You can feel free to correct me. I'm open to being corrected if you're not that.But in my mind, a grown man that wants to dress up scantily and stick his arse in a kid's face.[24:00] There's a word for those sort of people. And I would love an answer.I mean, I doubt I'll ever get one, to be honest, mate, but I would love one because I can't think of another word apart from I'm getting the word nonsense.
You're expecting some common sense, Gareth, which...[24:15] The problem is, you're right, I don't think many of these people have had a conversation with the sane person to discuss this because so many people fall into line and just accept the badness, but there's no pushback.But yeah, that's what's needed. That's good.
 
Parents need to parent.That's what needs to happen. You know, there's a lot of parents, well not a lot, but there's a few, unfortunately, parents out there that basically, you know, have sex, get pregnant, out it goes, on you go, whatever.You know, you have a job, there's a job here, and it's full-time, mate.And that is to protect that child.Now, part of protecting that child is protecting them from predators.Simple as that, whether that be in the jungle or in a nightclub.Not that there should be a nightclub anyway, but that's your job and you know parents need to start doing their job and if they did their job this stuff wouldn't happen because what would happen is four or five drag queens with a fetish for sticking their arse in kids faces would turn up and twiddle their thumbs in an empty venue for an hour before going home.That's what would happen if parents did the job and they're not.
Let's the continuation of this with advertising.[25:33] This was Dylan Thomas back in a past life. If you wanna play this projam, we can watch this beautiful dance.
It has been the wheel. Yeah, you get to spin the wheel, but guess what?You get a second chance in this game first. No way. Oh my God, oh my God, I'm still in it.So you know two prices already, which is a great thing.$3.99 and $5.99. Which one do you want to keep?I'm going to keep the $5.99. Something else up here is $5.99.You can tell me what it is.You get everything. I'm going to say the soup. Soup! $5.99. It's pretty fancy. It is... Yes!Yes! You got it![26:14] Music.[26:20] Look at that. Right, it goes on, it goes on.But, it is a bit, and I can't even show the video of him, her, it in the bath with the bud because it's just, it's too, it's ingrained on my memory, I don't want to put it on others.But it is this, an individual like this probably would have got help at some point in our society and now we cheer on this person who has issues in their life and really should be helped.And now they're making a ton of money and they've been released onto the world.But yeah, I mean, talk through it and I'll bring up some of the Babylon Bee articles around it, which I thought was quite funny. But yeah.
Dylan's a narcissist. A complete narcissist who is obsessed with self-promotion.[27:16] I would have no doubt that Dylan refers to himself in third person often, he's that sort of character, but I also think it's trolling as well.And when I say trolling, I don't mean the fact that it's fake, because he's gone off and had his face reconstructed, that's not trolling in the sense that it's fake, his face is different now.But by Nike and Bud Light and all these major corporations doing what they're doing, they know what they're doing is going against women and they know they're going to get pelters for it, but they don't care.It all, it feels to me like they're trolling women.[27:54] Why is Dylan now a face for Nike female athletics?[28:03] One, the dude's not an athlete. He's never even seen a track or a weight, right?So he's not an athlete. So, okay, so you're not, it's not even like Leah Thomas, go actually they won blah blah blah blah blah. There's no reason why Dylan is getting athletic apparel whatsoever. He's got a support bra on when he doesn't have boobs because he's a fella.[28:26] I don't know what he's done with the tuck in it. He's done quite well with that to be fair because they're pretty tight pants and you can't see anything so well done actually Dylan on that.In terms of the Bud Light where he's in the bath again it's a parody, it's a mick take of women.They're with the bubbles, oh I can't understand bubbles because I'm a woman so I don't get bubbles, they're confusing for me. It's that again it's just taking the mick and the high pitched and...[28:51] As if that's the way that women are and the way he dresses and he's got the pigtails and all that that sort of stuff. That's not a woman. That's, that's not how women are. That's, that's a clip art version of a woman. It's a parody. And so then when he's saying, you know, there's no men in my DMs. And of course, there isn't. Of course, there isn't.Because because even if men accepted the fact that you were a woman, and they went, Okay, no, no, no, you know, transgender women are women, is a woman, I have no problem with being with a transgender woman, and crop that point, right?Even if they were thinking that they would look at Dylan and go, how annoying a woman is Dylan? Yeah. Dylan's just a dick. Like Dylan's not the woman I want screeching all the time. How long does Dylan take to get ready? Two hours? Like just an absolute narcissistic pain in the arse. And so that's what I honestly think that they're doing now that they're doing on purpose. So you've got people at Nike, you've got people at Bud Light and all these other organizations.I mean, he's making absolute killing, isn't he?That they know what's coming. And they go, yeah, go on, do it, do it.I mean, why would you seek out Dylan and go, this person who gets pelters all over the internet constantly, this is the one that, this is good for our brand.No chance, unless you're trolling.[30:09] Let me show the Babylon Bee, which no longer is making up stories that are no longer true.Actually part of Babylon Bee is just mocking what already is there.Here's beverage pretending to be beer features man pretending to be woman.Love that one. There was another one. Let me just show the other one quickly.[30:31] And literally Babylon Bee, no shortage. And it is this one.Santis and Budweiser attempt to discover how many beers it would take for Dylan Mulvaney to pass as a woman.I mean, Bud Light is not strong, so it's gonna take hell of a lot, but it's great when there are sites like that that are just willing to completely mock.And I think that's what it takes to mock what is happening, to point out this is not reality.Jackie says, should I show Kyle? We'll show the 18 seconds of the night dance, just because you asked nicely. Oh, it was amazing. It was like, it was like river dance, a pissed up river dance.Is it this one? Let me play this one. here's some fun.[31:24] Music.[31:41] I mean it is pure narcissism you're right Gareth, it is complete narcissism.
 
Yeah and he's surrounded by people that won't tell him the truth that's part of the problem I think and that's what Sam Smith fits into that category as well, surrounded by people that just go along with it. if I, did that and I said to my wife or one of my mates can you film me doing this, they would be there going you look a fucking idiot. I'm not good, stop it, stop it. They would tell me, you know, no, no and that's what needs to happen, you know.No Dylan.
 
Gareth, we've only met maybe twice but don't worry if I ever see you putting out a video like that I will happily tell you what the hell has gone wrong, Gareth. You need help.
 
I've got good people around me, haven't I Peter? That's the point.He doesn't have good people around him. But then at the same time, I look at Dylan, and then I look at the other guy that's famous in a similar-ish way, the one who's got lipstick on all the time, a creepy smile, and has always got stubble, and is trying to get kids to private message him away from their parent.He's a predator. He's a proper predator, that one. He's dark as hell.There's something really sinister about that guy.Dylan is just a narcissistic Wally.[33:01] And what he wore when he was doing the Price is Right or whatever that show is called, he dressed up like Wally, didn't he? So it's almost like he knows that he's a Wally.But the other one is far more sinister in my view, if anyone's ever seen him.And any guy that's there on social media doing the real smarmy smile, it's just, oh God, he gives me the creeps.If I was walking through a park at night and I saw him, I'd leg it.[33:23] Trying to tell, telling kids to, join this private message thing and talk to me privately, that red flags everywhere.
Yeah. Well, let's leave the trans stuff in the rear view mirror and move on to something much more positive.And it is this, this is Robert Kennedy Jr.'s statement.[33:46] And he has submitted his paper where he says, I filled with the EEC and will announce my candidacy presidency on April the 19th in Boston. I'm grateful for the outpouring of support. Now,[34:00] I get Robert Kennedy Jr. would be someone on the opposite side politically as me, but I've been blown away by his bravery and stand on COVID and calling it out for what it actually is, calling the jabs out. But yeah, what are your thoughts on Robert Kennedy Jr. putting his name in the ring to stand as the democratic candidate.[34:27] Well to be honest I'm not one for politics really. I just think it's all a bit of a sham and all a bit of a show and all just basically give people the illusion of choice because you get to vote every four years for someone that is essentially not going to do anything that you want them to do and then four years later you'll try and replace them with the other guy and then the same again and so it goes on and it just gives people this illusion of choice. I'm not a fan of politics But for me, one, the Democratic Party will never pick him as the candidate for presidency, ever.That's never going to happen. And even if he got close, they would Bernie Sanders him, like they did with Hillary. They just never let it happen. But at the same time, if he can get there and he can get on the campaign trail and can get on debates and can say things and get some truth bombs drop in left, right and centre, then that's only a good thing. I'm the same as you, politically, I'm not so much with Robert in the sense of the whole climate change, human caused climate change stuff, he's really big on that and always has been.[35:36] But in terms of vaccines, he's great. I'm pretty sure actually his vocal injury was actually that was caused by a vaccine I think, which I think set him on the journey.That seems to be the case, you know, it's the same, like people that would, he would probably have not really given it time of day, the fact that actually these things that you can't possibly talk about long before COVID, you know, you can't talk about the measles ones or MMR and autism, all these things, these conversations that had people cancelled and their lives and livelihoods destroyed.But then it's happened to him, so now he's on it. And he's, like you say, he's brave and he goes for it.Same, I guess, with Malhotra, the fact that he would have poo-pooed anything against vaccines and then one, in the COVID jab, kills his father, and now he's on the trail with it.But yeah, for me, not a big fan of politics, but if he can get some truth out there and get some stuff out onto mainstream media, That's amazing.
Completely. Let me move on to this on COVID and this was an article in the Daily Mail.[36:52] And this was COVID jabs will be given to vulnerable babies for first time. Health Chiefs recommend two Pfizer doses for 60,000 at-risk infants aged six months to four years.And it actually says those with poorly controlled asthma and chronic heart conditions are included.Like giving them an experimental jab is going to fix heart conditions.I thought the evidence is there to say, actually it does cause heart conditions.It is infuriating that they haven't got it.[37:29] Well, if you ever needed evidence that people in positions of power are complete psychopaths, with absolute contempt for humanity.Look no further than a headline like that.You, at the end of the day, you go back two years when it was 100% safe and effective and it was gonna save the day and give everyone their lives back.Amazing, just look at Gibraltar.They didn't give it to six month old babies then.So now you fast forward two years and you go, right, okay, it's useless, it's admitted that it's completely freaking useless and it kills people and it gives people heart disease, and it causes God knows how many percentage rise in excess deaths.Right, so we know that now.So now's the time to stick it in a six month old. Obviously, of course it is.What are you doing?[38:23] You know, it's so hard to get beyond the fact that there's clearly some form depopulation agenda happening.And because the thing is with the vulnerable, Peter, is they've got a ready-made excuse.It's the same with giving this stuff to people in care homes and giving it to vulnerable elderly people and whatever.When they die, they were vulnerable, weren't they? Yeah, that's sad, isn't it, that they were vulnerable.
But all the, I mean, with all the Pfizer dumps, and we've talked to Amy Kelly, who pulled together all those Pfizer dumps and had Naomi on before, but they go through and what, 167 or 172 is it, people actually went through the trial, but of those, I think only six of the rest were placebos.You've got no evidence for any testing on children, no data that actually this is deadly to children at all.[39:24] There's absolutely nothing available that would persuade any sane person that actually it's children that now need jabbed.And any children with a health issue, that's probably 10 times reason not to jab them with that.But I don't know whether it's Pfizer demanding it. I don't know whether it's contracts, but it is pure evil happening in front of our eyes.
And it comes down, like everything is connected.It connects into drag queen story hour in the sense that this is on the parents.The parents need to not let this happen.100% just need to put their foot down. No, doctor, that's not happening.And you like to think that doctors wouldn't do this either. No, I'm not doing that.I mean, I might be being so bloody naïve with that, but that's what I hope.I hope that the uptake is none, that the parents say, no, not doing it, not a chance.Because that's what needs to happen. Because at the moment, as Jackie says, it's not mandated.It's not even like you've got some kind of battle on your hands.But the problem is that you'll find is children in care.Children in a vulnerable care system will end up having it. I know people that have adopted[40:46] children that are kind of a similar mindset to myself when it comes to vaccines, and they[40:53] weren't allowed to complete the adoption until the child had the childhood immunisations. That that was part of the deal. They wouldn't have done it, but they wouldn't get the child, it was done before the child was given over to them. So I would imagine it would be exactly the same for any child in care. And it's just so evil. It's so beyond evil. It's unfathomable to me.
It is, but the dead are in Japan and you mentioned depopulation and this is something which I I am still trying to get my head around.I haven't gone down that rabbit hole as yet. I remember having James Delingpole, he's well done.I'm looking down at the hole, but this is the deep population, this is Japan times.Excess deaths doubled in Japan 2022.COVID-19 may be to blame, I really think, no way.But again, it's not looking at the impact of the jabs.We've seen this across many countries, Germany, we talked to a German politician about this, it's now coming out in Japan, a lot of data coming out of Japan. But I wonder what time, my worry is that people will not wake up because they'll not be getting the information and everything will be blamed on COVID, but you can only blame COVID for so long until the truth comes out. So what are your thoughts on this and then maybe even on the depopulation side?[42:21] I think people are starting to wise up.I think they're starting to wise up to it. I think, you know, your kind of, you know, your pronouns in bio, Ukraine flag in bio, blue heart in bio types will never,[42:36] like they'll never get it. Like that. For me, they're an NPC that is just it's done. Don't just forget them. Don't worry about them. The nodding mass mass covered ducks in the background on that video. They're the same forget about them. But most people that have rational thought or, well, I say they will, they are getting it.I have conversations with people all the time and they won't buy that stuff, that's nonsense.[43:02] You know, I mean, the local gym that I was going to, they started a course of, well, a way to try and make some money to train people with long COVID and it just got laughed at because it's ridiculous.It's just ridiculous.[43:15] And so that whole kind of trying to push COVID on stuff, it's just dying, it's dying.All over the world it's dying out because people have had enough and people's life experience, as was always gonna happen, people's life experience has now outweighed the fear porn that they were getting from the media.You know, when people were locked in their houses and they were being told, you know, this is happening here, this is happening here, happening here. Oh my god, it's terrifying isn't it?Because they couldn't see. And now they're out and they've had conversations for two years or more of people going, do you know anyone? No, I don't know. Do you know anyone that knows? No, that's weird, isn't it? That is weird, isn't it? That started to wake people up. And then the jab rollout. Oh, no, it's safe and effective. Yeah. Bloody tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist, anti-vaxxers, dangerous, far right, you know, all the usual. That was then balanced out with, well, my aunt June.Oh, well, a couple of lads I used to play football with. Oh, well, the landlady at the local pub, she was only 45.All of a sudden, that reality, Lisa Copeland, pro-vax, took the vax, three heart attacks.She's now going, well, that's ridiculous. This thing is dangerous.It's killing people. It's nearly killed me three times. And so that's what's happening.And so I think they're going to really struggle with pushing these nonsense headlines.People won't have it.[44:38] Well, this, it's this, so infertility, and this has made me.[44:46] Naturally, no, oh, sorry, I'll bring it, sorry. Let me bring up this.
Yeah, World Health Organization, one in six, isn't it?
Yep, it's one in six. Let me pull up the story. But I mean, how does, because this is something that.[45:02] It's slowly, slowly coming out, And it seems to be that, actually, let me just bring this up.When the WHO are coming out with this, that's the thing I can't get my head around, to one in six infertile worldwide.And it says, despite high rates, fertility treatment is inadequate and expensive across the globe, pushing many hopeful patients into poverty trap.But it's 17.5%, one in six. And that is a level that's rising and rising.[45:36] I don't know why the WHO are putting it out. What are your thoughts on this?
Well, it reads like when you see the headline, it reads like complete gaslighting. But then, when you actually read the article, the studies was up to 2020. So it's actually nothing to do with you know, these these COVID jabs. Yeah. But sperm counts, particularly in the West have been absolutely plummeting for decades. So it doesn't surprise me that infertility is infertility is so high. What what I find interesting about it is no one seems to want to get to the bottom of why it it is. And it's the same. It's not vaccines. That's the answer.And it's the same with with autism. You know, when that whole thing was out there of, you know, autism, but it's not vaccines. Okay, right. All right, fine, whatever. Let's just put that on the on the on the side for a minute, then.What is it then? And then people go, you know, are this, you know, processed food? Okay, well, let's have a chat about processed food, then no one seems to want to have that conversation. The other element of it is, you know, we live in in a world with something like 18 to the power of 10 zeros,[46:43] whatever it is, it's something insane,times more radiation in our lives than there was just 150 years ago.Is that doing something? People sat with their laptops on their lap, radiating their bollocks and their ovaries, sat with mobile phones in the pockets, you know, but no one seems to care.No one seems to care. All it seems to me, it's not vaccines.Oh, okay. And then, right, you know, do you want to watch Bargain Hunt?No one seems to have any kind of concern as to, all right, okay, well, even if it isn't that, what is it then?Because, you know, we hear about climate change, oh God, you know, all the polar bears and stuff, and Greta's not going to school again, and all that sort of nonsense, and pretending to get arrested when she's not actually being arrested at all.Because we are facing an extinction level event.We're not, we're not, which is why all the politicians that are peddling it, your Obamas and your Al Gores and people like Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates are all still buying multi-million pound waterfront properties.You wouldn't be doing that if you think the sea's rising, but there you go.So we've got to focus on that.[47:48] This infertility and dropping sperm counts, that is literally an extinction event.Because if you can't procreate, you cease to exist. And then maybe that's part of it.Maybe that's part of it. You bring the population right down, a smaller population is easier to control. Just look at the nations where the draconian COVID measures were brought in harder.So New Zealand, tiny population. Australia, tiny population for the size of the country.Canada, tiny population for the size of the country.[48:20] And then you, you, you even, even down to the UK, you've got England, pretty heavily populated, fought back, Scotland, tiny population, was it five and a half million?Far more draconian, Wales, far more draconian, cause it's easier to control a smaller group of people.So that will play a part in, in why you would want population reduction.And the other part, you know, the conspiracy theorist in me, people focused a lot on, on 1984 through all this, terms of the parallels between Orwell's 1984. But Orwell was being taught by Aldous Huxley, who wrote Brave New World. Take a look at Brave New World, you know, and what that was, you know, that's a comparison as well, in terms of the world that's being created for us and around us.And in that, there is no procreation. There's state hatcheries, where the state grows, you know, and then you look at Israel, they've already got fake wombs in Israel.Like this whole thing is all happening at the same time.You know, you've got smart cars and smart meters and smart this and smart that.How long till you got smart people?[49:26] Yeah. But my big thing is on this, I'm trying AI to the piece on AI with Lotus Eaters during the week, and it's frightening on where that is going.Everyone who's causing for a pause for those who are actually involved in doing AI, but that's a whole other.
But that's why the same is in Silicon Valley. The people that make the iPads and all these things, They don't let their kids have them.
But on this, you're right that people read these stories and then they go on to watch Bargain Hut, whatever.But it's these stories, this infertility, it's a entertainment piece.You read it over your coffee, and then you go on and get on.You don't think, well, what have I just read?What does that mean? And people aren't processing the information.They're just reading it glibly and seeing it as a piece of entertainment for a few minutes and moving on.That's the frightening thing that the penny is not dropping in any way of some of these big issues.
No, because that story won't be on page one or page two or page three of any newspaper.It won't have made any BBC or Sky News bulletin, won't have made any of those things.But they will focus on climate change and all this sort of nonsense, but they won't talk about that kind of stuff.[50:52] So it's, you know, most, we're talking about it and people that are listening to this are processing it and have probably read that story.If I walked out into the cul-de-sac I live in and knocked on people's doors, they'd probably think I was a bit weird, but if I knocked on people's doors and asked if they knew that one in six was infertile, they wouldn't know.They'd be like, really? Seems a bit high. Door slams. They wouldn't know that.Most people wouldn't know that.You know, even people that have gone through those problems themselves, they would think that they were in an absolute minority. They wouldn't realise just how prevalent this is and how huge that is as a story. It should be front page news, it's massive.[51:33] Yeah, let's just do two or three minutes, our last story north of the border and something completely different and people were all quite surprised whenever Sturgeon, First Minister of Scotland stepped down and now we have SNP auditors quit, Scottish National Party that is, quit amid Peter Murrell police investigation, who was the chairman who was married to Nicola Sturgeon, and it seems all to do with finance and when Sturgeon resigned it was well she was a bit too stressed and social media were taking pot-shots at her and now this police investigation seemingly been going on for for two years but I was intrigued because it seemed it's quite a very public way the police I guess could have gone in it could have done but no they set up a huge tent outside it was massively public and it's maybe this answers the stories of why Sturgeon actually did stand down.[52:33] Almost certainly it looked like Fred West's house didn't it with the tents outside what was funny is I went out walking yesterday with a mate of mine and he's Scottish guy and he was, you know, SNP and he, you know, probably about three or four years ago now was like, nah, she's a demon.But he, you know, supported her because he supported independence, which is the Trojan horse that got the SNP in. It is. Because that's the only thing. Without that, they've got nothing.And what they've done is they've stitched themselves with this self-identity bill, because even the most ardent, you know...[53:08] Yes, voters have actually gone, okay, this is a bit weird now.We've gone too far now. It's getting dark. What I thought when I saw the...Anyway, so I told my mate David, sorry, cut my own story off then, about the whole thing. And I said, you know, they had these tents outside.He's like, what do you mean? Well, like digging for bodies.I was like, no, but it does look like that, to be fair.And maybe skeletons. I think there's a hell of a lot of skeletons.[53:31] But my first thought when I saw it is, for me, all politicians are the same.They're just left and right, different cheeks on the same arse, right? And actually I'm not a fan of the Tories, can't stand them, can't stand any of them. The one bit of credit I will give the Tories is that they don't try and pretend they're not bastards. They don't try and hide it. Whereas you've got Labour, which are a bunch of bastards, but they try and pretend that they're not. They put an LGBTQ flag and a Black Lives Matter thing on it and they try and pretend that actually, Oh, no, no, we're the good guys.You're not. The SNP are the same.And so I look at Sturgeon and the rest of them, and it's the same with Jacinda, because she stood down for other reasons as well, is they're always what they accuse you of.Always.The amount of times, if I went and searched it, the amount of times that Nicola Sturgeon has called out the Tories for being private landlords or having investments in private healthcare companies, which are all legitimate things to call out.If you've got a politician who is a private landlord who then votes on legislation to protect landlords, there's a conflict of interest. So yeah, that's a legitimate thing.Same with the NHS and all that sort of stuff.So they've got a point, but they're doing the same thing.[54:45] They're always doing the same thing. They're just pretending they're not.And the SNP are the same. The SNP are just the Tories with a pride flag.[54:54] To this point, I don't understand why people still vote. I have to say, I don't understand it.And if you want to vote, that's fine, but I don't.And then people go, people died for the right to vote. Nah, nah, they died for a legitimate choice between two things that weren't exactly the same.That's not what voting is. Do you want this World Economic Forum puppet or do you want that one?Do you want AIDS or do you want cancer? It's not really a choice, actually.I don't think people fought for the right to choose between AIDS and cancer.Not what they vote, that's what they fought for. So actually that argument that if you don't vote, you don't have a right to to argue anything or say anything is just complete rubbish.I have the exact right to argue it because I knew they were both bastards so I didn't vote for either of them. So when the one you elected gets in and acts like a bastard I'm allowed to stand there actually and say, told you, told you, you know. So I don't know what the answer is in terms of politics and I don't claim to. What I think would be a start would be the none of the above.[55:56] I do believe just putting that on a ballot, even if it's just a protest, it would start a conversation and there would have to be some kind of change. If you had Labour, 10% Tories, 8% you know and then like 70 odd percent, none of the above. All right so 70% of the country literally want none of these people. That would start something, that would start a ball rolling. The other thing that I believe Peter is what I said in Gibraltar is to have a contract, a binding contract between the people, then I'd vote actually, between the people and the political party or the politician that are elected.So if I say to you, right, Peter, what I'm gonna do is if I get into power, I'm gonna bring taxes down, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that, I'm gonna provide more for education, for this, all this big long list of stuff.And you look at that list and you go, mate, that's pretty good, I'm gonna vote for this guy.And I get in, I don't have any, I don't have to do any of the things that got me elected.I literally don't have to do a single one and I can still be in power for four years[57:05] without having done any of that. In fact, I can do the opposite of every single one.So what should happen is there's a contract and I have a certain period of time where I have to implement those policies. And if I refuse to implement those policies, I'm gone.And there's a snap election, bang, to be replaced.That again, that would be a start. I mean, that's not necessarily the end goal and the perfect scenario, but it would be a start, that actually people would have to do what they promise rather than just say, bring down taxes, everyone gets a free Lamborghini, cheers.When they have absolutely no intention of ever doing that.
Yeah, completely.[57:43] Gareth, I appreciate you coming on. Thank you so much for coming in and sharing your thoughts on all those different stories, thank you.
I know, well, we did about 40% or 45% on transgender stuff. And you know, people say, and they say it to me and Rich, why do you talk about this subject so much? Because it's so important to protect kids and protect women's rights and stuff and to protect the gay community as well because as we were talking about earlier, they're becoming targets now. It's that pendulum swing that will come back And actually, you know, it needs calling out.
No, completely. Well, let me just finish on, let me just show just two or three funnies just to finish with. And we'll not give any comments, we'll just leave people with a smile. Sometimes there's so many issues happening that we don't leave them with a smile.This was, let me do this. This is when you're on your first date and she orders a Bud Light, You know, it's not going to go well.There was just, we didn't even have time to show Bob Moran's cartoon, my goodness.You need to look at that, Julia Hartley-Brewer and Piers Morgan.You need to look at that, absolutely wonderful. And here was one of Dr. Robert Malone's jokes, which I thought was, they're all very funny.[59:10] Rapes, robberies, assaults are all up last year. Manhattan DA, what do you plan to do about it? Indict Donald Trump. This is the AG, Attorney General Bragg, who is indicting Trump. There are so many articles, but we will not because we have run out of time. Make sure and check out Gareth Icke on Twitter, Ickonic on Twitter, and follow all of the content they are putting out. And if you want to make full use of the content, you can can pay for that content because I think we're used to getting content for free, aren't we, Gareth? It's important for people to realize if something is worthwhile, then they should pay for it. But just, I'll give you a minute to plug Ickonic just as we end.
Okay. Yeah. I mean, to be honest, it's as cheap as we can make it. So that obviously, you know, all the staff can live and stuff can get made and all the streaming costs and the website costs and the developers, you know, they've got four full-time developers and stuff.So it's as cheap as it can be.[1:00:15] Which I think is about $7.99 a month. There's five weekly new shows and then some comedy in there, lots of films, original films and licensed films, documentaries, self-help, yoga, nutrition, pretty much everything that you need really there.And you can start a free seven-day trial whenever you want. So if you go to ickonic.com, start a free seven-day trial, check out all the content, see what you think.And also leave us some feedback, you know, because the fear is that you become a bit of an echo chamber and you end up making content that you enjoy, which is great, but that's not necessarily, you know, what people want.So feedback is always, always welcome.[1:01:00] Okay, sounds good. We'll leave it on that. I'll wish our viewers a wonderful rest of your Saturday evening.Happy Easter Sunday for you tomorrow. Hope you have a wonderful time, however you're spending it with friends and family, or just chillaxing by yourself, have a wonderful time.And we'll be back with you on Monday with Miranda Devine, laptop from hell, New York Post journalist.We did a prerecord with her a few days ago. So she's with us on Monday discussing that bestseller.So on that, have a good evening and we'll see you on Monday.So thank you and good evening.

Diana West - Is the Indictment of President Trump the End of America?

We have all been watching the events in the US unfold over the last week regarding the indictment of President Trump. It is an honour to have award-winning journalist and author Diana West join us again to take a clear look at the madness. We all know the the left hate Trump and everything he stands for with a passion but what has transpired over the last few days really takes this fear and loathing of him up several notches, the charges the Democrat led legal system have brought against him seem flimsy and weak.There does not seem to be any smoking gun or legal failure that will take Trump down, yet the Democrats continue this legal charade which seems to only unite the Republican party and Trumps core base even more, join us for Diana's expert analysis.Diana West is an award-winning journalist and the author of The Red Thread: A Search for Ideological Drivers Inside the Anti-Trump Conspiracy, American Betrayal: The Secret Assault on Our Nation's Character and The Death of the Grown-Up: How America's Arrested Development Is Bringing Down Western Civilization. Diana is also one of 19 co-authors of Shariah:The Threat to America (a Center for Security Policy publication).Diana’s work has appeared in many publications and news sites including The American Spectator, Breitbart News, The Daily Caller, Dispatch International, The Epoch Times, Family Security Matters, Gates of Vienna, Manhattan, Inc., M, Inc., National Wildlife Magazine, The New Criterion, The Public Interest, The Wall Street Journal, The Washington Times, The Washington Post Magazine and The Weekly Standard. She has made numerous television, documentary and radio appearances, and addressed audiences including at the American Legion, the Danish Parliament, the Heritage Foundation, the Hudson Foundation, ICON, Institute for the Study of Strategy and Politics, Judicial Watch, the National Vietnam Veteran and Gulf War Coalition, the Naval War College, the Union League Club, and Yale.Follow and support Diana at the following links...Website: https://dianawest.net/gab social: https://gab.com/realDianaWestPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/DianaWest​Diana's books are available on Amazon in print, ebook or spoken word on Audible...https://www.amazon.co.uk/Diana-West/e/B001JRU95Y?ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2&qid=1660565570&sr=8-2Interview recorded 5.4.23
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TRANSCRIPT
[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak, and thank you for joining us for another interview.Coming up with Diana West.Obviously, we're looking at what is happening in the States with President Trump being indicted, being in New York and then coming back to Mar-a-Lago for that speech, which I watched.And Diana West, obviously as a US citizen, having her finger on the pulse is the perfect person to try and explain some of the madness of what is happening stateside.So we just go through and she shares her thoughts on what she has seen, the judicial system.[0:55] The politicization of that, the media, the lack of response, how the Democrats' hatred of Trump, which we know all too well, and how this will play and how it's galvanized, I think, Trump's support amongst the Republican base. Because there is a distinction between Republican support for Trump and all those rinos and it's been intriguing watching the rinos come out in support of Trump.The Romneys, the John Bolton's, so many have come out in support of Trump. So I know you will enjoy listening to Diana as much as I enjoyed speaking with her.
 
And hello Hearts of Oak and it's absolutely wonderful to have Diana West back with us again. Diana thank you so much for joining us.
Well it's wonderful to be back with you Peter.
 
Great to be back and your country is seen crazy times at the moment. I will get into that looking at the indictment of President Trump is at the end for America and everything is happening around that. Obviously the viewers can follow you on Gab @RealDianaWest and dianawest.net is your website. They can follow everything you are doing there.Now I think the first, I watched the Wednesday morning when I watched the Trump speech, watched the plane flying to New York.[2:20] I think probably that was Tuesday evening. But I mean, my thoughts were, if you're gonna take the former president or current president out, your case needs to be shocking.It needs to be absolutely overwhelming.And watching it, it kind of seems to be quite underwhelming.In what's been put forward. But can I ask you, what are your thoughts as an American watching what has been unfolding?
 
Well first of all this is it's a black day for America because this is[2:55] not any sort of a legitimate prosecution. This is a political persecution and prosecution of the opposition leader at a time when, and you and I have talked about this before, America is in a post-coup period.We had a coup d'état between November 3rd, 2020 and January 6th, 2021.And so right now, the government that governs us, frankly, we don't know who's governing us because we have a puppet in the White House, and we have effectively some kind of a, what we might think of now as some sort of a junta, that has gone out to arrest the opposition leader.And I think that one of the most striking comments on these events comes from the president of El Salvador, El Salvador in Central America, who said, imagine if this happened to a leading opposition presidential candidate here in El Salvador.There would be all manner of cries of banana republic, junta power, strongman politics, and all the rest of it.That's the American position, the state of America today.[4:10] There don't seem to be any new facts on the table. And I know President Trump talked about others looking at this case.If you look at some of the issues on the table taking aside the, this is taking out the opposition candidate, putting that aside.And what they brought, it doesn't seem to be anything ground-breaking, there's no smoking gun. It just seems to be the same old stuff.[4:37] Right. That is true. I mean, in terms of a legal case, it is, I'm not a lawyer, but legal experts are looking at this as a junk case, which is the point. But I think also interesting to your viewers would be the notion that campaign violations, campaign finance violations happen periodically to all manner of politicians and they generally are treated as a fine.Witness Hillary Clinton, who had a similar kind of discrepancy in her campaign finance forms related to her payment for the Steele dossier, which was a disguised payment.And she was fined, I think it was $8,000. That's kind of the level that we're operating at.Obviously, this has been exploited and exploded and exaggerated in order to make this kind of a political display which ties right into the next presidential campaign cycle.Believe me, if Donald Trump were enjoying retirement and simply, he's 76 years old, I mean, remember that.If he were simply playing golf and playing with his grandchildren, I tend to think this would not be happening, but he has not taken himself out of the ring.[5:53] And I think that this is what he gets. This is what he's had to deal with in different forms since he first emerged as the presidential candidate going back to 2016 or 2015 even.This is the treatment that he has received because I think if we step back and we look at this first from the vantage point of Central America as what happens in dictatorships, But then stepping back to even farther, when we look at where Trump 2016[6:26] actually stands in terms of the whole globalist project, the project toward world governance, the project away from democracy, away from individual freedom and so on.He was the great interrupter. And I saw such an interesting clip from George Soros circa 2009 today.I'd never seen it before. You know, we used to look at some of these experts, if you wanna call Soros an expert, but people, leading figures in finance or politics, least I did, and sort of think they were giving you their assessment of things, as if they were thinking independently or didn't have already a plan.And as I watched Soros in 2009 explain that, well, the American economy is going to stay weakened, the American dollar, we have to see that the American dollar is weakened, China will be the driver of that, and will emerge as the leading economy.This was kind of his spiel back in 2009. And you realize all throughout Barack Obama's two terms, this was certainly happening.[7:29] It was going to continue happening under Hillary Clinton, and then you have this great interrupter.And so he's not only a great interrupter of American politics, he is a great interrupter of the globalist project.And I think that it's good to remember that in terms of trying to understand why, as you say, you know, warmed over charges are things that have already been looked at and dismissed political machinations, why we're getting this now.And it's, he remains an interrupter, even after everything that's happened, he remains this very potent force and they just can't let it go.And the other thing to remember for your British and European viewers is also, this repudiation of Trump was a repudiation of the American people, because the American people voted for him in 2020.And so when it's not simply targeting Trump the person, it's targeting the entire American political process.We are disenfranchised officially, and now we're actually seeing the man I consider to be president in exile, now president possibly in incarceration going forward.So it's a terrible time in America.[8:45] Explain to us how, for those of us across the pond, over the UK and Europe.Is it simply that any attorney general of any state can simply bring charges against Trump?Is it because some of the businesses are based in New York?I mean, is it simply that the attorney general here, Alvin Bragg, just has utter hatred of Trump and he's the one who's willing to do this?
Well, that's a good question. And I don't wanna be ignorant about what attorneys general can do in different states againstnational figures, figures that have connections to the state, residency in the state at a time when charges could be brought. I think that's true.I think that's true.It's the kind of thing that certainly doesn't happen. This is unprecedented in American history to see criminal charges pressed against a president.It's this particular case is something that is kind of a hybrid case because there are federal aspects of it knit into these state charges.But the important thing to remember is that someone like Alvin Bragg is an elected official.He's an elected Democrat official.[10:00] And for example, when you see Congress now talking about, oh, we're going to investigate Alvin Bragg, that is actually a way for them to do absolutely nothing because what jurisdiction could Congress, our federal representatives in Washington, have over a state elected official in New York,what they are really doing, in my view, is avoiding exercising the powers that they do have in this same political legal process.And that is specifically related to what we may be seeing happen to Trump.[10:33] And that will be in the area of federal charges. We're not out of the woods.He's not out of the woods in terms of perhaps getting charged by the Justice Department related to various cases that are open against him.And the Justice Department is under the jurisdiction of the Congress.There's oversight of the Justice Department, oversight responsibilities that our elected representatives are supposed to be actually carrying out, specifically the prosecutions and also the judges.We have federal judges now who may be sitting over Trump in the future, in the near future even, who have been using their judgeships to strip away due process and create new precedents, all related to the January 6th prosecutions, which have been ongoing.And the dragnet is increasing. They're vowing to bring in a thousand more of these nonviolent, often generally misdemeanour charges against Americans who were there to protest the election steal on January 6, 2021.In that bench, this federal bench of DC, you have judges that have created this new precedent for incarcerating pretrial defendants, defendants who have[12:01] not come to have now been incarcerated for over two years in absolutely gulag-like conditions, in DC and elsewhere in this country, in penal institutions, experiencing torture, literally experiencing beatings, abuse, deprivation, and these are non-violent defendants, these are non-violent charges, these are often just misdemeanour charges. And what the reason I'm bringing this up is that this is a place Congress has jurisdiction and is punting, just absolutely not doing anything about it. And this is also a place where all these presidents have been created, I fear, to execute against[12:45] President Trump. And if he, this is something that we have, this is the other crazy thing that I'd like you to know, Peter, is that this whole story in many, many ways is considered an alternative media story.And I don't mean the President Trump arraignment, which was a media circus, but in terms of[13:05] what has come out about the federal involvement in January 6th, the assets, provocateurs, informants from the federal and other governmental agencies, including DC Metro Police, that were involved in either getting, worming their way into the confidence of certain defendants and their defence team circles, or actually inciting and leading violent and lawless abuse of the law on January 6th.There's video, new video of Metro police actually exhorting people to break through police lines, climb scaffolding, things like that.This was very much a frame up in so many ways as we're learning.Judges have been making this kind of information, which is part of the discovery process, not available to defendants.They've been, again, leaving them to rot in these gulag-like conditions.And Congress has done nothing about this. So when I hear them now ranting and railing about Alvin Bragg, to me that is a complete act of misdirection.Where are they in terms of calling out this political persecution out for what it is? Nowhere.[14:19] And so, you know, this is sort of why we are in such a compounded, dark place and have been.You know, this is not something to look at as a discrete news event.This is a consolidation of the seizure of power that took place going back to the last presidential election.
Yeah, we've had Jake Lang on and I was shocked. I had no idea the situation with so many people being held without trial and everyone should have the right to due process.And it seems those individuals have not, simply because the Democrats have decided that. So I was blown away by the situation.
 
It's shocking. It's shocking. And again, it's an alternative media story or if you talk to individual defendants, it's absolutely suppressed.But meanwhile, they've been creating this new set of rules that could very well, maybe they were created in the first place knowing that someday the dragnet would include President Trump. I wouldn't put it past any of them.But it's also important to know that a lot of these same people are very much part and parcel of the democratic machine, including, for example, the U.S. attorney of the District of Columbia, a man named Matthew Graves, who in 2020 was on the domestic policy committee of the Biden-Harris campaign.[15:40] So this is the kind of people sitting, It's not against the rules or the lot for this to be the case, of course, but it's just showing where these people are coming from.[15:53] There's no recusal when there are tremendous political affinities that are part of a background, including, for example, the judge who will be sitting in judgment of President Trump.His own daughter is deeply embedded in democratic politics to the point of working for Kamala Harris and Adam Schiff as well, who was the congressional representative who led the impeachments against President Trump.Nobody sits and says, oh, well, maybe I'm a little, you know, there might be the appearance of impropriety. If I were to sit in judgment, I should recuse myself for someone who has less partisan ties, for example.It doesn't happen. It's, it's, that doesn't happen in political persecutions.And you know, where do you, where do you go for historical precedent?I mean, I go from everywhere from the French Revolution to certainly show trials that took place in the Soviet Union for this kind of[16:53] punishment of opposition. It's not merely making sure people obey the law. It's about punishing people for the way they think and for having the temerity of exercising their First Amendment rights in so many of these cases. So that is kind of where we are. We are, you know, post-constitutional. We are post-democratic. It's just a terrible thing to wake up to, but there also seems to be very little realization of just how these different events knit together. And it's really important to see them, I think, in a continuum.
 
With the legal system so politicized, certainly I from a student of politics from very far away from the US have never seen such a level of politicization in the judicial system, in the legal system. And that absolute division, I mean,[17:57] Trump divides people like no other. You either love him or you hate him and we see that absolute hate in the Democrats that they're not interested in right or wrong, they're simply interested in the hatred of Trump. Where does that leave, I guess that begins to become apparent to the American people despite the failure of the media to report fairly. But I mean, yeah, talk to us, through that politicization of the legal system.
 
Well, it's a very interesting subject you raise, this politicization. And I think that to really understand it, we have to go back, gosh, it's probably about 100 years, to Pavlov's dog. Pavlov was the very important Soviet, well, Russian to Soviet scientist who did all the experimentation on conditioned response.[18:55] And he very famously, you know, most people think of his dog who was conditioned to salivate, first for a piece of nice meat, but then you could take the meat away and you could create the salivation with, I think he used a red light to create the same thing. And what a lot of people don't know is he did experiments on people as well and the learned response is something that has unfortunately, tragically, entered into our world of politics and media. And certainly beginning with, in the most dangerous ways, going via totalitarian states.And certainly we get to, for example, the Chinese revolution that brought Mao to power, we get the term brainwashing.Brainwashing, when I was growing up, I thought brainwashing was sort of a cartoon term that it was not a real thing, but it actually was this washing of the brain, this creating these responses, these conditioned responses.[20:01] And in China, this was done by repetition, by these groups and communes that would preach over and over again the same messaging.And you would face ostracism and so on if you did not adhere.And then now the reason I'm going through this is it's not at all, I'm not exaggerating.I'm talking about what has come into our politics in all the democracies really, but in the Trump example,[20:29] this has been, the divisiveness is part of this learned response.And in terms of the acceptance of our current regime, I will never forget on election night in 2020, watching the coverage and seeing as things were, or maybe the next day, as things were starting to look very murky in terms of the outcome and what had happened and the various accounts of different kinds, many, many different kinds of fraud that were becoming quite clear.You started hearing the exact same phrase in every written and spoken news story.And it was the phrase was something like unfounded claims of election fraud, unfounded claims of election fraud.This started before anyone had even finished counting anything.And so I bring that up just because we are all victimized, I do believe, by this conditioned reflex regime that just became so commonly used to manipulate[21:31] people.So in terms of the divisiveness of Trump, I think that that was another one of the conditioned response operations, if you will. Certainly it's used all across politics in many different ways.But if your question was, where do we go from there? Or, I'm sorry, I lost your actual question as I was trying to lay the groundwork for something.
 
Yeah, just with that massive division, you've got a problem in society.If you have institutions siding with one side, it takes away the whole pretence of democracy, I guess.[22:08] Well, yes, but I would take it a step further because we are not in a normal time.And I would say that it's not a matter of the institution siding with one side or another.I think our institutions have been seized from within. I mean, I think we're looking at a very, you know,[22:26] a different kind of long march through the institutions than the kind that we would look at again, you know, in China, for example, where you see a revolution, you see it take shape, you know, you watch it and you know what's going on and they have red stars on their shoulders, right, so you know what's going on.The revolution that took place in America is one that is that is at least we can we can certainly date it a hundred years, or date it 90 years for sure since the Franklin Roosevelt administration, but it has been a revolution from within. It has been a Frankfurt school revolution.It has involved the seizure of all these institutions. Everything had to be in a line to get to 2020. Everything had to work. The courts had to be gone. Both political parties had to be subverted. The education, on and on through all of this. So this is a very long, a long war that is now in this particular, perhaps, end stage.So it's not so much that the institutions are to one side, it's that the institutions were seized. I mean that's how I look at it. It's just not politics as usual, I guess is what I'm trying to say.[23:39] 100%. I mean watching the man himself, Donald Trump, watched his speech, confidence, bravado.And I had the absolute privilege to see him speak at CPAC, being at the front there and being in a pre-event beforehand with a smaller group with him. And I was blown away by the show.You see the showmanship on TV, but that absolute confidence.And it is, I guess, also arrogant.But that leadership, that's what you need to actually lead people, to stand for what you believe with, to portray those values and take a country with you and he has all of that and I'm kind of wondering what the Democrats, want to do with this. They know who they're up against and they know his strength of character and they know the widespread support that he has and I'm wondering whether they've kind of overplayed their hand because I can only see this emboldening Trump.[24:47] Yeah, it does. I think you're right about that. I think that It's hard to imagine that they wouldn't know, the reaction this would have and you know It's sort of another level of nefariousness if that's the case because it may be that what they're really trying to do is embolden all of us to a point where they can bring a hammer down on you know in different ways, It's a really strange thing to be in the country and have this feeling of occupation.[25:25] Is that the right word? Of alienation from the institutions, alienation from these law enforcement agencies, fear of them.It's a very strange thing. You look back at history and we see takeovers.We see tanks rolling. We see, this has been such a different process.So yes, he's emboldened.He is, I think, certainly one of the most remarkable men of destiny that we've seen in our lifetime.And he stacks up against many others in history, love him or hate him.He is this remarkable, irrepressible man.[26:06] He is a man, people forget. He's a man, he's a human being, he's 76 years old.It's an amazing thing what he was subjected to for running for president, for being elected, for actually trying to govern.I mean, I think a lot of other people would have withered away at this point and gone happily into a retirement situation.So yes, it is, you're correct that the impact is what you would think would be backfiring, And yet, do we have a system at this point where the people's will can even be translated into political power?And my cynical, I don't even think it's cynical, but just having experienced the last few years, I don't have that confidence to say the least.I don't think we have any expectation that voting in 2024 is going to mean something if our candidate is not the chosen candidate.And that is kind of really how bad things are in America at this point.We have a 2020 election that was never, never addressed. We did not have the audit that was required, for anyone to have any confidence in the American political system.[27:30] So 2024 is going to be better? It doesn't make any sense. But look what happened in 2020.Every institution on the right walked away from it. Everyone, every foundation, every party, everything, they walked away and said, oh, we're going to take care of election integrity going forward.It's kind of ridiculous. But it's not ridiculous. It's sinister.[27:56] Obviously you expect Trump's core base within the Republican Party, but watching Mitt Romney.[28:05] Watching John Bolton, watching a whole plethora of rinos actually come out and speak up, watching Pence come out, I find that intriguing.Tell me what your thoughts were on this galvanization of the Republican Party.
Oh, it's just, it's excruciating. They are such, they are such losers.And they're, you know, I don't know what the best historical parallel, I'll have to think about it for a minute, but they are about as inspiring, you know, as a soggy piece of Wonder Bread.I mean, it's ridiculous, but they are what is, it's kind of like, I often think of politics and media, to be honest, and historians and so on.There are certain ones who operate inside the circus ring, and they can play with certain balls and certain dancing bears, and that's all very much fun.But actually, everything that's important is outside the circus ring.And if you go outside the circus ring, that's when you get zapped by this deep, dark state of whatever you want to call the powers that be.And certainly all those men you just mentioned are all exactly circus ring dancing bears.And so they can do whatever they want, but it's meaningless.They're impotent and they're embarrassing.[29:27] But yet they're putting their public support, now privately it may be hugely different, but that galvanization of the Republican Party makes, obviously the Democrats have thought through this.That's what I can't quite work out. have thought through the scenarios, And yet it's coming back to hit them so quickly.
In terms of Trump's resurging support?
 
Yes, within the Republican Party, that there is anger at what's been happening at a former president being indicted.And those who traditionally were not for Trump suddenly are saying, actually, this is wrong, at least publicly.It's interesting that kind of coalition that is coming together only because of the stupidity of the Democrats?
Well, if Trump is so enmeshed in this legal fiasco.[30:27] Which again can also include other charges in other jurisdictions like the federal jurisdiction, it could be that they just are banking on the fact that Trump will not be around for whatever reason.I mean, they will somehow take him out.And so then they become the brand. And frankly, it's also, I think, nobody wants Trump supporters in the Republican Party.That part of the Republican Party wants nothing to do with Trump supporters, nothing to do with MAGA.And in fact, historically speaking, the Trump supporters, the MAGA people of today, have been previously purged from Republican polite society in the past.This is not a new development in American politics.The sort of traditional right, the American first type, very sort of heart of oak and heart, you know, the yeoman type American has long been unwelcome[31:34] in Republican party circles that could be represented by a Mike Pence or a Romney.And so in some ways, maybe that's also what this is about.The branding continues and the uni-party, because they do represent what we could also call, not just rinos, but the uni-party, the party in charge of things, is just perfectly happy to be in the minority, or not be in power, but part of the process.And so I think maybe that's kind of what drives them. I mean, it's certainly a conundrum, But I think those sorts of factors do play into some of what we're watching.
It's again, looking from the UK, this seems to be all about hush money and hush money NDAs.They're fairly common in business across the board. So once again, I'm scratching my head thinking, is this your smoking gun?Is this it? And they seem, the AG seem to say that, well, there could be other charges, but if the charges are not there, then you can't really defend yourself.And there seems to be utter confusion from their side.[32:50] Right, right. But in terms of the political accomplishment, the media accomplishment, it doesn't really matter, does it?I mean, you could, again, go back to the January 6th cases. The charges are ridiculous.[33:03] The charges are exaggerations. There have been people who've been literally had on their indictment the crime of going like this to a police, I mean, like raising your finger to a policeman or putting on a Trump hat on a statue, this becomes a crime that ruins your life and makes your business close and your wife divorce you.I mean, literally, that's what's going on. These are all pretexts.If you're looking for legal gravity or legal answers, you're not going to find them because, again, that's what a political prosecution is.Back to Stalin's show trials or some of these other exercises in simply eradicating the opposition. That's what this is. And it's Trump, it's the people who would support him.At this point, I mean, think of the chilling effect that these prosecutions, all of them have had on just free speech in America, people being afraid.I mean, how can you not be afraid if you're going to get in legal jeopardy and perhaps clapped in irons because of one of these ridiculous, not, you know, parading in the Capitol or some such thing that's usually, and we can go back to the Kavanaugh hearings of 20, what[34:28] year was that? 2018.The Kavanaugh hearings are the perfect case for people to refresh on because they, the anti-Kavanaugh protesters occupied Senate office building.They did all the things and more in terms of interrupting the vote, the actual vote on the floor in Congress, all of these things. And they got nothing more than a ticket. They got a ticket that I believe at maximum was a $50 fine. No arrest went into their record. I was watching this report from 2018 and the reporter was explaining that these people who were occupying the building. They had to be taken out. You know, basically, the policeman would tap on their shoulder and they weren't even put in handcuffs or zip ties. They were given a color-coded bracelet. That's how the left treats protesters. That's how the state treats the protesters.When you get to the Trump situation, the January 6th situation, they slam every possible thing and it becomes essentially domestic terrorism. So, you know, again, these are Trump, no pun intended, these are Trumped up charges. So the harder you look at what Alvin Bragg has to say about Trump, I think you're just going to keep scratching your head and just say[35:45] well, it's not in the legal code. There's something else going on here.
What about the money? I think Donald Trump Jr. talked about 20 million being spent, whether or not that's correct, but it'll be a lot of money. And when people are living in cities, including New York, where the police are being wound down, not giving the powers, and you've got rising crime, across the country. And you wonder, is this actually a good use of resources to spend money on someone who paid someone else to keep a secret? Again, will that make people angry?That actually this is not the bread and butter issue that we care about.[36:29] Well, that's a good question. It's also the case, and I think it was the Daily Mail, thank you, that reported this, that Alvin Bragg had released something like 10 extremely violent felons back into the New York population and chose instead to drag President Trump in for this completely nonviolent and as you say, perfectly legal non-disclosure agreement between these parties.Yeah, I mean, I think it would make people angry, but what, you know, New York City, what is New York City?President Trump was saying he really should be tried in a different jurisdiction because it's something like 1% Republican, which is another problem for the January 6th defendants because they're being tried in Washington, DC, which is roughly similar in terms of political feelings.So it's, again, it's by any means necessary. Political prosecutions don't have to make the city run better, right?I mean, it's not about him trying to protect New Yorkers. It's a show trial and it shouldn't happen in America.[37:39] It shouldn't happen anywhere. But it's usually the kind of thing we would expect to see, we would expect to read about from North Korea or Albania or Castro's Cuba or something like that.And that's why it is such a shock. And I guess it's also maybe why you are looking to see the grain of reality there or the cause.There must be a cause. This can't be happening in America, but it is.And that's why I keep, it's not a popular message, but we are in a post-democratic period.Our government was seized in 2021. And the rightful president lives in exile at a beautiful place in Florida when he's not being arranged in New York City.So it's kind of we're in a, it's a head spinning moment, but it is a crisis. It's a real crisis.
What's the deal, because I am assuming this has been put in play simply to tie Trump up with legal issues and therefore slow down or stop his ability from putting his name forward for 2024.So they don't have to actually rule anything. They just have to tie him up and slow him down.[38:55] Right. Of course, we know that won't happen. If he is simply dealing with legal problems, he will use them.I mean, as I understand it, he wanted a mugshot because I think they had a plan to get it right out.And in fact, there is a T-shirt, which I really want to buy.I don't know if it says free Trump or not guilty, but they sort of created a mugshot for their T-shirt.Clearly, I mean, that kind of attitude is really where he gets so much of his support and affection.Because believe it or not, I mean, and I have to have a big exception here.I've been very estranged from Donald Trump ever since he started to push the vaccine.He's not taken a step back from pushing that thing, no matter how many people have died and been injured.And I just kind of said, well, I'm done. I'm through with him.I can't even look at him anymore.And then this thing comes along and you realize that once again, he's on a front line alone and you just have to kind of, you know, accept him for what he is and where we are and what who else is there.And then you kind of, you know, you kind of find your, your feeling for him again, but it's it's, it's, it won't stop him obviously.And he, he has such an irrepressible spirit, this life force that he has is something that will turn this kind of thing to his advantage, which I know makes them crazy.[40:20] You can go back to watching any kind of, we'll go back to the Clintons and watch the way they handled, I mean, they're real crimes.That's probably one of the main reasons these people committed real crimes.I mean, think about, not even that he was even in trouble for this, but think about Bill Clinton.Bill Clinton declassified something like 11 million pages of military data that experts believe allowed the Chinese military to totally modernize and revamp itself. He also permitted, American military secrets to go to China in exchange for campaign finance contributions.[40:58] I mean, that's not just a national security, that's treason. And yet nothing happened. You couldn't even get it into an article of impeachment because they wouldn't give the committee time enough to draw everything up and go forward with different, I mean, and there probably wasn't enough will to be honest as well, but think about that kind of a transgression compared to paying Stormy Daniels $130,000 in a non-disclosure agreement, which as I understand it, was mainly so Melania, his wife, would not find out.I mean, you know, what hurts the country, right? And who, you know, so it's not really, it's not hypocrisy, it's much worse. It's one kind of crime against the people is fine with the elites. One kind of crime against who? Who's the crime against? It just becomes a pretext to destroy this man.
 
Maybe the judicial system would be a better place to find Epstein's victims rather than worried about someone who's paid a hundred thou, but that's a whole other area.[42:14] But just to finish off, I mean I agree 100% with your thoughts on the vaccine side and that's why I really do like what DeSantis has done, but also there's no one like Trump and if Trump is in the ring then why would anyone else be in the ring with him? And I'm wondering what your... it's probably never been in this situation before, obviously never having a president, former president indicted. How do you see this playing out? How do you kind of think we will be watching it?
 
Well I think a lot depends on how far they will go to use their, I think Nancy Pelosi called it quiver of arrows, against him. If they they actually go to federal charges and actually try to incarcerate him and you know do these absolutely Bolshevik things it becomes it probably becomes really difficult for him to run for office. I think short of that, I think he probably will continue to run and he will probably raise more money than he's ever raised before. So,[43:29] you know, after that my crystal ball kind of goes black because, you know, there are just so many other problems, you know, that obstacles that are ahead. But that does seem to be my at least short-term view.
 
Well I'm sure we'll have you back on. Diana, thank you so much for joining us and giving us your thoughts as it's sometimes difficult to assess things from thousands of miles away and you're living that as a US citizen. So thank you for coming on and sharing your thoughts.
Oh well thank you, I'm just thrilled to be able to speak with you about it because it's a lot.You want people to to get a different perspective now that will come out through the media. So thank you, Peter.
 
Thank you for coming on.

Michele Bachmann - Can Higher Education Hold Back the Woke Wave?

I first remember watching Michele Bachmann in the race for the Republican Presidential candidate in 2011. Her strong conservative and Christian values stood out and made her a lightening rod, but education has always been her passion and her role in Regent University brings her vision for learning to higher education. She joins us to look back at her political life in Congress and to discuss how higher education can hold back the woke wave that is engulfing the western world.Michele Bachmann was born in Waterloo, Iowa. She received a B.A. in Political Science and English from Winona State University in 1978. She married Marcus Bachmann, a clinical therapist who holds a master’s degree from Regent University. In 1986, she received a Juris Doctor degree from Oral Roberts University. She was a member of the ORU law school’s final graduating class, and was part of a group of faculty, staff, and students who moved the ORU law school library to Regent University. Two years later, she completed a Master of Law in taxation at the College of William & Mary. She worked for four years as a lawyer for the Internal Revenue Service’s Office of Chief Counsel in St. Paul, Minnesota.Michele and her husband have five children. They also worked with a private foster care agency to house 23 children in their home during the 1990s. Their children were home schooled and also attended private Christian schools, and her political career stemmed from her interest in education reform.In 2000, Michele defeated a long-time moderate incumbent for a state senate seat in Minnesota. In 2006, she entered the race to represent her suburban Minneapolis congressional district, winning 52 percent of the vote, becoming the first Republican woman from Minnesota elected to the House of Representatives. She easily won re-election in 2008 and 2010.Michele's extensive career highlights include:She was the first Republican woman from Minnesota elected to the U.S. House of Representatives.Michele served as a United States Congresswoman representing Minnesota’s 6th District from 2007 to 2015.She quickly became a national figure in the Republican Party and a founding member of the congressional Tea Party Caucus.In 2011, Michele announced her bid for the Republican presidential nomination and ran for president in 2012 and is a highly respected leader who is deeply committed to conservative values in government.Regent Universityhttps://www.regent.edu/Interview recorded 24.3.23Audio Podcast version available on Podbean and all major podcast directories... ⁣https://heartsofoak.podbean.com/To sign up for our weekly email, find our social media, podcasts, video, livestreaming platforms and more... https://heartsofoak.org/connect/Please subscribe, like and share!

The Week According To . . . David Vance

David Vance is back with us to discuss our way through the big stories this week in the news and have a look at what he has been posting on his awesome social media accounts. It's not for snow-flakes, expect free thinking, free speech, freedom of expression and plenty of opinion as David let's us know what he really thinks about the topics this episode including.....- BBC Launch education show for children in Afghanistan.- French protests and the brutality of the police.- Russia assumes UN Security Council presidency despite Ukrainian anger- Donald J Trump indicted.- Biden will not attend King Charles III coronation.- J6 prisoner 'Shaman' Jacob Chansley has been released 14 months early.- Town councillor jailed for Eat Out to Help Out fraud.- Poll suggests Scottish FM Humza Yousaf 'could lose seat' at next Holyrood election.- No Shit Sherlock: World Health Organization says healthy children and teens probably don't need a COVID clot shot.- NOT AN APRIL FOOL JOKE: Study finds flu shots may help prevent heart attacks. Pureblood David Vance will not submit, and he will not comply.He used to be disgusted but now he tries to be amused!In the battle for truth and liberty, David chooses the front line, he has been writing and talking politics for a long time and is a published author, political commentator and podcaster extraordinaire!If the Covid 19 plandemic taught him one lesson it is that critical reasoning and a healthy contempt for the mainstream media are desirable armoury in the fight against tyranny.Follow and support David on the following links.Website: https://davidvance.net/GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/davidvanceTwitter: https://twitter.com/DVATW?s=20&t=vaRYl6wCZ4_ZLJ9DB0xpXQTikTok: http://tiktok.com/@thedavidvanceLocals: https://thedavidvance.locals.com/BrandNewTube: https://brandnewtube.com/@TheDavidVanceChannelPodcast: https://vancedavidatw.podbean.com/Originally broadcast as a live news review 1.4.23
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And as always, it is wonderful to have Mr. David Vance. David, thank you for joining us.
My pleasure, or Peter, my absolute pleasure to be with you.The four weeks goes by very, very quickly between one of these and the next. That's life.[0:38] It does. This is the fastest live stream I ever do. You blink and it's over, so, and chatting.But actually, David, I was, what a weird, whenever we put out a video, well, actually did a live stream on Monday about the 425,000 that Elizabeth had got, been awarded by the courts.The grooming gangs.But we also put out a video clip of her father speaking, because we recorded him like two years ago, we were up in Rotherham two years ago, and we did a two minute clip of him talking about South Yorkshire police.And I sent it to a couple of friends, US friends, and they came back and said, I'm sorry, but is that English? Is there any way you can get subtitles?So I'm just hoping our US friends don't need subtitles tonight for us.We will see, we're not providing them. So just one thing before we jump in, I had a absolutely great time in for two days, three days, two days in Gibraltar.It was an event done by actually, who was it done by? It was done by Freedom Gibraltar and Workers of England Union.And it was a great event, basically the first time they had had such an event.[1:54] Opposing the Jabs. And they were worried it would get stopped, so it had to be done quietly.But really good to meet Dr. Clare Craig, really great to meet Dr. Aseem Malhotra, good to meet Dr. David Cartland, because I hadn't actually met Dave before.And to catch up with Gareth Icke and the Freds, Matt Hoy, John Bowe, who I hadn't actually met before.It was good to spend time with him. But a really great event.And Jenny Roberts had put it together and it shows what can be done in such a short space of time.We live streamed it.And I learned a lot from live streaming it because I have a load of things I will do better next time. It was good to have Oracle Films, Phil Wiseman correcting me and also Gabriel from Ickonic correcting me.So I learned a lot as we always should do. So the next time we live stream for an event like that, it will be even better.But let's jump in. Our first story, actually is not one that Dave and I talked about, but one I came across.This is of course Trans Visibility Day. So let me play this little clip from, I think Cartoon Network.Give me a moment. And, oh, which, I can't remember which squid I showed. Oh, here he is.[3:17] Music.[3:31] Yeah. Was that? Oh no, no! Oh, that was good. I was going to play longer.Obviously, this is the push on the whole trans agenda for children.And David, I think that's really one of the easiest wins for us on this issue, how children are being targeted.
Yeah. Although, mind you, I wanted to know how Trans Visibility Day went in the Muslim world.I was wanting for an update on that.I can't seem to find any footage of it, Peter, in downtown Saudi.But there you go. Maybe someone can send me that footage.But yeah, the whole targeting of kids is, of course, absolutely an abomination, deplorable, and obvious. It's really, really obvious.[4:22] I'll tell you that one of the worst things I saw this week, I don't know what you thought was, and maybe you've got a thing to bring it up, But following the shooting in the Nashville Covenant School where the three kids were shot dead by a trans shooter, like let's call it for what it was, a trans shooter, and obviously the three adults as well were shot dead.I find it remarkable that we saw in the likes of the Kentucky Capitol building and the Tennessee Capitol building, these occupations, these insurrections by trans activists talking about how trans people were under attack.And in actual fact, it was a trans person who'd done the attack.And I mean, I'll be honest, I put out a podcast on this today, Peter.[5:07] Called, you know, Satanic Inversion, because that's what I, I think that's what it is.That there, and we saw the White House, also Jean-Pierre Lecarde, you know, or is that her name?Some, whatever she's called, Joe Biden's, Joe Biden, I think it's Karen Pierre something or another, but I prefer Jean-Pierre Lecoq, coming out and again saying, I'm sure you saw it, Peter, that the White House was very concerned about trans people being under attack, as this individual one did the attack.And so, you know, about trans kids, we've got to look out for trans kids.Yeah, we got to look out to make sure kids don't become corrupted in this way by this kind of, you know, very...Deranged psychological mindset. You know, I mean, I try to be kind to everyone and I don't want to generalize across any groups because generalization is never great.[6:02] But there's no doubt about it.There are some extraordinarily deranged individuals and they're all over social media, by the way, and they think that, yeah, super duper, trans kids, it's all normal.And, you know, thank you for identifying me by my pronouns as you put in that little cartoon. It's all nonsense.
I think, David, I think in Rihad it was trans invisibility day.I think we need to get that right.
Yeah, maybe that's what we need next year.Trans invisibility bloody year is what we need, because I've seen enough of these people, you know, these individuals, because I am sure there are some trans people who keep themselves to themselves.[6:41] And do what they want to do, hopefully behind the doors.And that's OK by me. I don't have a problem with that.But it's all this. I mean, let's call it again, grooming. It seems to me it's a form of grooming, one could argue.And yeah, I think it possibly is. So we need to protect children from this.
One that Joe Biden is participating directly in himself, but what would surprise us more?Not much. choccy ice cream.
Let's move on. See you soon.[7:10] Several other stories. And this is David, actually we're just going to go through David's Twitter feed generally tonight. So obviously that is the place to go for David's stream of consciousness, which never ends. But this is BBC education show in Afghanistan helps children banned from school. I'm not sure what the BBC are doing trying to educate anyone in Afghanistan, but but maybe that's where TV license money goes.What do you think, David?
Well, yeah, I mean, it's great to see this is what are the draconian license tax funds, but I wanted to know, well, I wonder what kind of education they're providing the Afghanistani kids, or they're providing them insights into the whole LGBTQ plus agenda, perhaps into trans rights, perhaps into the 97 different genders.I mean, Afghanistani kids, boys and girls, are better off without the BBC going near them.In fact, for that matter, our kids, our British kids, would be much better if the BBC weren't propagandizing them through their programs. And actually, I'll tell you, it's interesting.I've got, as you know, I've got a couple of young grandkids.[8:24] And so when they're here, we watch, I think it's, is it BBC, CBeebies, their kids.
 
What CBeebies do.
Yeah, so we watch that. And believe it or not, this is what I do, Peter, when I'm not stream of conscience.[8:41] And it's really quite absorbing because in this, and bearing in mind that my grandkids are like, you know, not even three and just over one. So they're very young and they're watching programs, BBC's pushing out.And in those programs is the propaganda. It's right there.You can see those of us who have eyes can see it, you know.So I mean, frankly, if the choice is the BBC or the Taliban.[9:08] Well,
 
That is a hard choice. That is a really hard choice, but absolutely.Can I just just let me pull in one or two people on the live chat on GETTR on the side.Chris Davis, 33. Good evening, Peter and Dave. You're first on Chris. Villan 82.Claude 1. Doubly deplorable 007. Hello, gentlemen.And Chad from PA, Pennsylvania, PA, US. Nikki Eaddy, Evening Old, Gareth1965, Evening Peter and David, Biotech Babe, Good Evening, and there are Julie, Northern Monkey, as always it goes on. Do drop, if you're watching on GETTR do make sure and drop your comments, always good to know where you're watching in the world and how you're joining in. So thank you for those comments. Let's bring up this story, which is our next story and Projam can you actually play that?[10:13] Can you play the video of that?[10:38] I don't know if it's better in slow motion or not, but I thought it was quite good.Yeah, yeah, Raffy Irvine and Anthony Pena, yeah. It's the cinematic version, David.Yeah, yeah, Hollywood production version, yeah.But this, this is the, I guess, the brutality of the French police on the French protesters not wanting to, well, I was going to say France, not wanting to work. No, I mean, not wanting to work until they die, just having been through a French air traffic control strike. But it's interesting comparing the French response to government oppression in one way and the British response and I kind of like what I see in France.
Well, it's really quite nuanced this because first of all, those people that you saw, those police men, they weren't regular gendarmerie, right?So they weren't.[11:27] So that there are because I'm not sure the regular gendarmerie are on board with all this oppression.But these are kind of specially trained, you know, like the old days in the UK, the SPG or whatever, they're specially trained units of, you know, thugs, lawful thugs.And we've seen all the footage, Paris, Toulouse, wherever you want to name it in France, where these individuals, these legal thugs, absolutely batter the protesters.And we saw this during, Peter, I'm sure you'll remember during the Gillet Jaunes protests, which I also supported. It's the same modus operandi.So it's absolute brutality.It's absolutely police state on the one hand. Now, some people will say to me, and I've had this criticism, yeah, David, but what you don't understand is some of those protesting are professional left wing agitating protesters.Yeah, it's France. What do you expect? Of course they are. You know, ooh la la, that's France.[12:31] But some of them aren't. Some of them are just people who, as you said, Peter, they're not happy about the pension age being increased from 60 to 64.So they're out on the streets.Good for them. What's the Brits doing? They're going down the pub, they're watching EastEnders, they're sitting back complacent, taking it all. I read today, Peter, I didn't put it on my timeline, but I think the plan is, maybe not for even for your age, but the generation below you, I think this government's talking about retirement would be in the 70s.[13:04] You know, the 2070s, I don't know, no, they're in their 70s. And this is, you know, basically, they want to work people to basically the end of their useful lives, and then just let them die, and no pension commitment is required. I used to feel that, you know, I used to, my mindset's changed so much, Peter, as you know, over the last couple of years, I'm way down lots of rabbit holes. And one of the things is, I do believe in fiscal responsibility, because I am I'm naturally conservative, but this is a government that can afford to spend billions and billions on the farcical COVID scam to Ukraine and all this kind of stuff, and net zero money, endless money can be spent on that.Well how about you don't spend the money on that and help fund decent pensions, British, pensions at a reasonable age, rather than keeping, you know, dangling the carrot in front of the worker so that they work to the end of their days.I actually think that maybe something like 65 is a decent age for retirement, but on a decent pension. The French get £1,400 per month, roughly, on the French state pension. The British one is about £800. So that's how lousy our successive governments are. And believe you me, Labour won't do much to improve that at all when they get in. So yeah, I'm with the French in spirit.[14:30] And if the pension age was increased by a year, and that money somehow was ring fenced, then I can understand an argument for that. But of course, we know the problem is that none of these things are ring fenced.
That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah.You know, just 1% more, but don't worry, we'll ring fence it for the NHS.I mean, we heard Blair at that back in the in the noughties.Just want to increase the tax burden so they can, this is the politicians, can spend it on their particular projects. But the projects are never about making, for example, I believe that a mark of a civilized society is how it looks after its elderly as well as its young.And if you make your people work to the end of their 70s and then give them a lousy pension, I mean, that's not a civilized society. And that's kind of where we are. So we could well do to learn, dare I say it, from even the French, because even with this Macron tyranny, they're they're still getting out of it at age 64.We're 67 at the moment, moving to 68.But as I say, what do we do? We watch the footy. That's OK then, isn't it?[15:51] Well, of course, one of the reasons why anything, state pension needs to be raised is, of course, to support the the war over in Ukraine.But this is a great story.Russia, once again, another David story on his Twitter timeline.Russia assumes UN Security Council presidency despite Ukraine anger.This is the 15 members take it up for a month at a time.They were called on the US to block it. They said they're not.But it is a ceremonial position, but it is quite beautiful to see the arguments and the confusion. What do we do with this?Russia is president of the UN Security Council for the next month. It's beautiful.[16:37] Yeah, it is beautiful. And as you said, Peter, like it is purely ceremonial. There's not a lot can happen to it. But the BBC, you know, they're having an emotional meltdown. Zelensky and the gang, you know, all those corrupt crooks in Kiev, they're having an emotional breakdown about it.And I think it's glorious. It's just a superb irony. I mean, they're saying, oh, the last time they held this position, they invaded Ukraine. What will they do this time? They'll do what they want to do. And it's as simple as that. I mean, the whole Ukraine thing continues to drag on. You know, we're now beginning, I think, in the West to get the signals that, oh, well, maybe Ukraine mightn't win everything. Maybe, just maybe, there might need to be some kind of of agreement between them and Putin.So basically, I mean, Ukraine are absolutely losing this one, anyone who's following what's going out there.But from day one, I argued against this.[17:38] I think that we should never have had war or conflict. We needed peace.We didn't want to see lives being lost.But having said that, when you've got people like Ben Wallace, or what is it, what's he, the Armed Forces Minister, I mean, he's as hot for war as can be, along with most of the Conservative Party. they, the Conservative government, they want war.And so, yeah, Russia occupying this position, lots of lols in that one.Did enjoy the rich irony of that one.You would need a heart of stone not to laugh.
 
You would.[18:10] Did you, I don't know if you posted or someone else where of the FPO, the party that actually is leading the polls in Austria, the Freedom Party, and Zelensky came in for a video call to Austria and they all got up and walked out.Wow, I mean, don't you wish you could see that in the British Parliament? And there we go, looking across to Austria for some leadership on this.
 
Yeah, that's right. They see Zelensky, for what he is, an absolute grifter at the very best, and maybe worse than that again. And yeah, they all walked out. And yet, if it was in Westminster, Peter, they would all stand up like seals, and they would all applaud, you know, Slave Ukraine and all that there, they would do that.And that tells you more about the decayed state of our political system here in the UK.And even Austria shows more backbone than Britain. You know, so what is it?You know, that's disturbing for me to see the difference. We don't have any opposition to what's going on.We just have a uni party.[19:15] Well, let's move over across the pond over to the States. And this was a beautiful meme you put up, David.Wait a sec, you cannot doubt a former president for paid off women you had sex with to keep it quiet. And poor Bill Clinton must be really, really worried.
 
He's worried.He's worried. I mean, if Hillary doesn't get him, then the legal system might.That's a great Bill Clinton as well.How about that? It's a brilliant meme, actually, you know, and obviously this is relating to the, yeah, the ludicrous Trump indictment.And again, Peter, I turn this on, actually, I look a lot of these things from a UK perspective.[19:58] Probably not surprisingly.And I listened, like, for example, yesterday morning, Thursday morning, when this story broke, to the glee, the glee and the likes of, I listened to the awful talk vaccine radio with my bestie Julia Hartley Brewer. And like they were honestly, they were salivating. Oh, this time he's going down. He's going to go behind bars. He's the worst president ever.And they couldn't, you know, it's so pathetic. This is such a farcical Trump, trumped up nonsense by the Dems and their operatives in New York, obviously. It's a fully Democrat run system against Trump. I don't know about you, Peter, because I know you're closer even to the American scene than me. But I just think this will strengthen Trump. I, you know, it makes me now, I'm 100% in the Trump camp. I used to equivocate a bit between him and DeSantis. But I don't see them wanting to take down DeSantis. I don't see them wanting to stop DeSantis. I see them wanting to stop Donald Trump. And that's because for all his faults, and he, has some faults.You know, he is, I think he's the one that they fear. So he's the one that I'm 100% behind.And this stupid, you know, Stormy, I mean, Stormy Daniels owes Donald Trump 300,000, by the way. Why is she not behind bars?[21:21] Not completely. And here's another poll you put up and I thought Tim Young has hit the big time.He's got Donald Trump reposting. This is a poll now that Trump has been indicted by the New York grand jury. Who will you vote for in the Republican primary? Donald Trump 83%, DeSantos 13%, other candidates 4%. I can't see anyone else running against Trump now this has happened. It is Trump, it is the Americans, the groundswell opinion against the system.[21:59] There's no way I can see DeSantis actually being able to run now.
I totally agree with you, Peter. At one point, I thought there might be a Trump-DeSantis ticket with Trump. I'm not even sure about that anymore. I'm certain it's going to be Donald Trump.
You know, health, as long as everything stays well, it will be Donald Trump versus, you know, whoever the Democrats put up.And so this is another classic own goal by the Democrats, to my mind, and it's going to strengthen Trump's position.Certainly, I mean, it unites the whole MAGA base around Trump.I know the GOP, I know the RINOs and all of that, they'll be delighted about this.You know, the Mitch McConnell's, the Lindsey Graham's, all of those sort of token Republicans.Well I reckon it solidifies things for Donald Trump.And I hope he, I mean I would love him, I think it's Tuesday of next week when the, I think he has to go to, or he's being asked to go to New York to do the perp walk of shame.Good, because that will strengthen him even more.And I see so much support for him, I'm sure you see it as well, swelling around in social media.Some people who have not been 100% in his camp this time around, you know, maybe has he lost it and all of that. People see this and they just go, yeah, they want to take Trump down, we're going to stand with Trump and I am amongst them 100%.[23:27] Dave, I'm just thinking on when people go on your site, there's a buy me a coffee, they can support you and I would encourage the viewers to do that. I'm thinking of buy me a plane ticket and I could go over to see Trump. Do you think that's too much? I don't know.[23:41] Well, you see, I mean, you know, plane tickets, all that, all those carbon emissions, we're trying to save the planet. I'm not sure. But if people do want to buy me a coffee, like this one, go to davidvance.net. Here you go. And you can try and buy me a coffee there.I mean, it's going to get really interesting, as you know, Peter, in the next, you know, in the rest of 2023.This indictment is going to blow up in the faces, I think, of the Democrats.And I think it's going to bring the Republican Party mostly around Trump.[24:11] It makes DeSantis irrelevant. It raises questions about DeSantis a wee bit.But I see he did say that he would not allow Trump to be arrested in Florida, which is good.The indictments in New York City. So yeah, next week is going to be fascinating. You're going to see all the images, you know, but I wish Trump would be, I'd like to see them handcuff him. That would be good because they don't get it. You see, the lefties get this one completely wrong. That doesn't make us feel bad our side Peter. It makes us go, well, if they put the handcuffs around Trump, they're putting it around everybody who stands with Trump and that just energises the support. So the only one thing I do wish Trump would do. I wish he would get back on Twitter. He's missing a huge PR opportunity. GETTR's great and, you know, Truth Social and all that, but honestly, there's like millions of people he could be reaching. He'd be well advised to do that. I don't know if you agree or not, but I wish he would.
 
And not being on Twitter means he does miss your stream of consciousness.[25:15] Yeah, well, I mean, you know, yeah, maybe that's the reason for him to stay off it, I'd say to prefer. Maybe we shouldn't blame him.Let me jump, oh I see there's Charlotte Baroness of Burnley on GETTR. Great to see you Charlotte. Hi Charlotte.Who else is, there are a load of other names. I just saw your name out there Charlotte.So obviously a previous guest with David and myself and who pulled together the wonderful Comcast.But that's a whole other story.
Charlotte and I now do Twitter spaces together.So we in fact, actually, I think we're working on one on drag queen story hour between us. So that'll be an interesting Twitter conversation to tune in.And I'm sure Charlotte will put out more details of that, hopefully in the next couple of weeks.But anyway,
 
something to keep your eyes on.David and Charlotte talking about drag queens. If you want to hear what they have to say make sure you tune in to Twitter spaces on both their Twitter profiles. This is the shocking news,i'll have to change my plans, President Joe Biden or former Vice President Joe Biden will not attend the coronation of King Charles the Third.I mean, that's that weekend, and now the Prime Minister has to attend the coronation of King Charles the Third.And I thought, you know, how can you just stop taking care of yourself when you can take care of the country, and I didn't.And I tell you what, the people of the country, they all have to go to the coronation.The people of the country, I mean, that's that weekend. I had it all planned. And now I've had to change my plans.It's not worth going to.[26:44] I know. I mean, I can understand lots of people will be devastated at this news. I mean, it's actually interesting on several levels. First of all, it sort of underlines my view that I think Biden is instinctively hostile to the United Kingdom generally. I think that what it's worth. There's that aspect to it. So it's a bit of an insult. The second instance, though, I mean, I want to avoid that weekend as well. I have no interest in Charles the woke. I have no interest in what the nonsense they're going to be getting up to. I won't be watching the coronation. I won't be watching the concerts. I won't be. I want nothing to do with it because I feel totally disconnected from this. Different with his mother, Queen Elizabeth.For this guy and what he represents. I mean, this is a World Economic Forum stooge king.And so, you know, and he continues, by the way, to the politicking.[27:45] Did you mean you mentioned just to go back to Ukraine for a second, Charles, after his planned visit to France, had to be put on ice under the fact that issues over there, you know, and kings can lose their heads in France.He went to, well, he went to Germany instead and lots of close connections there, of course.The old Saxe-Gothbergs and all of that stuff.And he gave a speech and he was talking in this speech about the great connections between Germany and the UK with regard to Ukraine.So Peter, this is the point. I don't believe Her Majesty the Queen would have been stupid enough to have said something like that. That's a political statement.You know, we can respect people's countries and say, but once you go into politics, if[28:32] you're a monarch, I think you're playing with fire.So this guy, to my mind, I just, I can't, I have no confidence in him. I don't respect him.Him and Camilla, I don't, to be honest. And that probably get me into trouble with all my unionist brethren who with all their support for the monarchy, but you can respect the institution and not respect some of the people within that institution.I don't respect him and for once Biden's got it right, albeit by accident.
No completely. Staying on the US side, and you'd put this post up from Sebastian Gorka.[29:09] This is quite, there supposedly is a fact check underneath, which must mean Sebastian is absolutely correct. And this is Jacob Chansley. I actually hadn't seen him without his beautiful gear on, at least 14 months early after Speaker McCarthy released January 6 footage that proved he committed no crime. And we, I think, in the UK, forget that there are still hundreds of people who are locked up with no trial. And I thought that would be an anathema, I guess, with everything that the US stands for, which is your freedoms and rights. And you can be locked away without any chance, really, although years away, of any trial.
 
Yeah, political pr- let's be honest, These guys are all political prisoners.The January 6th people are all political prisoners locked away.But I was so pleased that the shaman Jacob Chansley has been released.But if or, you know, or fact check or whatever.The fact is, this guy is 100 percent innocent.And they got the footage that shows that he was 100 percent innocent.[30:21] But get this, they have that footage from day one. And yet, Peter, they've put him away for 18 months in the meantime.And that shows you how vile this Biden regime is, that they will punish people just for the act of actually, in this case, he was escorted.I mean, the laugh on it was, he was escorted through the Capitol by a police officer or or two.[30:43] So it's not crime. There's no crime is committed. And it wasn't an insurrection, as I've said to you previously before.That's just the Democrat myth that they've sought to put in place.But yeah, I mean, it begs big questions into the direction the US has gone.Because as you rightly observe, a country based on freedom and liberty is happily locking up people without any due justice. Any justice has not been done.And now in this case, they're releasing one. What I hope he does, I hope he sues the hell out of the US system that put him there, because he's been denied his liberty for all that time.And with a bit of luck, we get a big payday. And he deserves that, not least for the costume, which, as you observe, I mean, you and I should probably get costumes like that and do a stream in our equivalent shaman gear.Because I think I'd look good in that there.So I'm not sure if you're more hair than me, but it would sort of suit my look, I think.But yeah, good news. I'm glad he's been released. And yeah, listen, all the others need released as well.Some of them, you know, there's some elderly people as well.This is appalling what's going on. And it wasn't for people like us and others in the alternative media, you know, going on about this.Like the mainstream media doesn't give a damn about these people.They're just put away, that's it.[32:08] But I thought the only thing he's guilty of is wearing a stupid costume.To me, that's really...
 
It's not a stupid costume, it's a good costume.It's OK, I'll give you it's a strange costume. But I mean, if you want to see strange costumes, go back to...I put a clip of, again, the insurrectionists in the Kentucky Capitol building.And some of them, these were the trans insurrectionists, seem to be wearing headgear, which to my mind looked kind of a wee bit satanic, but I mean, but oddly enough, the media didn't want to talk about that.
I saw that. If I can just add, I didn't realise I was looking, because I had the story up about Joe Biden not coming, and actually in the Daily Mail article, I thought it was good news he wasn't coming.The bad news is that.Kamala Harris may come. You have to come to London, seriously, you have to come with Kamala, laughing Kamala, crazy Kamala's coming, come on.
 
Oh yeah, cackling, cackling Kamala. That'll be, I mean, it'll be great during the ceremony. Hopefully she'll start cackling during the more sombre bits, but I'll never know because I'll never be watching it. But yeah, Kamala's coming, yeah. I'm not going to go there, yeah, right, okay.
 
I just thought I would try and tempt but okay, I failed.No, I'm not going there with Kamal. I know it's too dangerous.[33:30] Okay, we'll move on. This is an interesting story you'd put up.And we could go all different directions with this. This is former Keighley town councillor.Keighley is that town you know well from the grooming gangs.Probably not related to this story at all, but former town councillor jailed for eat out to help fraud.[33:51] And there he is. He tried to steal more than £430,000 through the government's Feed Out to Help scheme, and he has been jailed. This was over a four-week period. Over four weeks, he was claiming help of nearly half a million pounds. And of course, this half a million was from David, you and me, and all our UK listeners who pay taxes. So well done on paying your taxes. So So Mohammed Ikram could make 19 fraudulent claims of 430,000.But I guess it shows the ludicrously of the system that the government paid us to eat.[34:31] Well, it shows several things. It shows that.It also shows, as you say, I mean, he's been convicted and put away in relatively short order, Peter, relatively short order.But then if we were to change the conversation and talk about the grooming gangs and the horrible crimes that have been committed against young girls in so many of our cities.Well, that didn't happen in short order, did it? Convictions so few as they were.So there's a certain hypocrisy there. I guess the government gets a bitagitated when it sees its own, the money that it thieves from us, it being thieved in due course by people like this.But yeah, I mean, imagine my surprise when I, as I think that's what I said, imagine my shock.Couldn't believe it. I mean, a fine upstanding citizen like Mohammed there, trying to put his hand into the tune of almost half a million.And of course, I reckon this is the other thing, going back to that day, that was the help out, eat out scheme, wasn't it?[35:31] So I reckon what that is, Peter, is that's the tip of a massive iceberg, because the amount of fraud that I believe happened, and I don't have any specific knowledge of this, but just a general sense over that period during the government's coronavirus tyranny time, it's got to run into billions and billions.And again, that's what bothers me. Pensioners don't get a decent pension. But the government found all those billions for this stupid scheme of Rishi Sunak's, which didn't actually even work. It only brought us a short-term economic[36:11] spike and then it dropped down again. But some people were enriching themselves for sure. So, yeah, I'm glad he was convicted. I'd like to see, of course, others convicted, not least those within in the Conservative Party government who ensured that some of their pals were benefiting from all these contracts. We've seen about the PPE and all of that there. I mean, it's not just our dear friend Mohammed and Keighley that we need to be worrying about. There's, a whole raft of people who were absolutely milking it for all that they were worth. And at the time, it was kind of obvious, but after a year or two, at least, it's good to see at least one conviction.
 
I hope there'll be many, many more.I hope so. And reading the story that he claimed for eight businesses, of which six of them were, entirely fictitious, so basically he just put random places down and the government said, okay, well, if you say Mohammed from Bradford will pay you the money.[37:16] Literally no one in government actually processing this scheme. They just trusted people to hand in in blank receipts.
Yeah, I know. I know. Honestly, you couldn't make some. Some of the stuff I put it out, and it's almost like you couldn't make it up.You know what I mean?If you were trying to make a satire account, some of this stuff was right off that.As you said, six totally fictitious accounts, checks being sent off to them.And the government will say, OK, there's another point to be made in this.The government will say, Peter, well, look, it was a time of crisis.No, it was a time of self-inflicted chaos. That's what it was, number one.And I reckon if we expanded this conversation just more generally to how the government lavishes our taxes, I think it's just symptomatic of what just generally happens.I am sure the levels of corruption, the levels of inefficiency are staggering around how the government itself operates and how it spends money.Money. But hey, that's just the nature of statism, I suppose.
We can trust our government to do what's best for us, David.I wouldn't hear anything different. So please put that cynicism away for a moment.[38:31] On to Scotland, and Scotland making, I do really despair.If any of you are up in Scotland, I do despair of what you're doing to your country.So Humza Yousaf could lose seat at next Holyrood election with labour making gains, new poll suggests. Talking about SNP dropped 8 points, labour up 7. And of course, there's a picture of a representation of the Scottish people. There it is, beautiful representation.[39:02] When I was talking to others, my point was that actual Humza Yousaf was not a great member of the Scottish Barm is only 37 being there a short time, incapable and out of his depth. And then, I assume because of the colour of his skin, because of his background, they think we need to tick that box and how dare we have Katie Forbes who's a Christian and they stick this guy in who's, out of his depth and I hope he does lose a seat. I'm assuming you think the same David.
Oh yeah, it would be so sweet if he would, I mean I was looking Peter actually, also just as a I'll come back to Humza in a second, but I was looking at a website which mathematically calculates, sort of numbers what the 2024 election result will be by constituency.And I was amused to see that Boris Johnson in Uxbridge will also lose his seat.So I can't wait for the 2024 elections to see all these individuals fall.But back to Humza, Humza useless.
 
And Richard Tice might be Prime Minister.[40:13] Because he's a solid guy that we can totally trust. Back to Humza, so I'm delighted that he won.I was in his corner all the way through because if there's one way to destroy the SNP, it's Humza Yousaf.Because this guy, as you rightly observed, Peter, every job he's held, he's been absolutely rubbish at it.I mean, catastrophically bad in everything.However, he basically is continuity Nicola Sturgeon. That's what you have to understand.So the party machine got behind him and that's how he got the position.Although isn't it interesting, he won by the golden percentage, 52% for him, 48% against him.Now when that was Brexit, people like him said, oh no, no, no, we need to have a, we, can't possibly go with that, it's too tight to call.When he wins, it's indisputable, nothing to say, move along.So I think he is going to be catastrophically bad. I can't wait.I mean, he's already saying things which are, you know, he's doubling down on the gender realignment act.It's fantastic stuff. But it's fantastic and it's not, on a serious note now.So again, okay, conspiracy theory alert coming up.[41:25] But what's going to happen is that clearly the SNP will lose some seats because this guy is going to be a catastrophe. And that's good.[41:34] Labour's going to pick them up. And that's not so good, because it just further underlines that Labour will come into power in 2024 with an absolute vengeance. And I'm saying to you now, and everyone can come back to me when we have the general election, you're going to see it's going to be 1997 all over again, or as in the Tories are going to be wiped.It might be their biggest defeat actually ever, I believe. And so, so, so this, but In the past, like with Blair, Peter, and you'll know this, student of politics, Labour always relied on the Scottish MPs to get the majority.They always historically did.And then the SNP took that away from them. And that's what essentially removed them as an electoral force.The demise of the, the shrinkage of the SNP will help Labour and, you know, I'm not happy about that, obviously. So, although it is uni-party stuff, like.So we will see.But Humzas, in the meantime, should give us loads and loads of lols.And, you know, I can't wait to get more of his policy. I laughed at his cabinet that he's appointed.Talk about, you know, they talk about we're going to have a cabinet of,[42:46] you know, of all the talents.He's producing one of none of the talents. And that's great.So, you know, and also a final thing in this one, you know, the SNP does not represent Scotland or all the Scottish people.It represents just a very vociferous, you know, kind of hate-driven minority I think.And so.[43:08] You know, I just try to sort of think, well, the SNP bubble is probably going to burst.And maybe you take small pleasures where you can find them.I find a small pleasure in the fact that Humza Yousaf, he's going to give us what, an independence in five years, he said.Five years to be independent. But unfortunately, that's meat for the faithful.The people who vote for the SNP, look, they think that's going to happen.And I well remember Peter during the first Scottish Indy, the way the SNP people, they hate on English people.It's unbelievable. It's a hate-driven party.And in a way, even Labour winning is kind of almost slightly better than the SNP.Because I don't think they can be just as hate-driven.But there we go. Scotland, Scotland, Scotland, the naive, I think we need to look upon it as these days.
 
Anyway, moving on.And actually, you said about hating English. You do, you do.And Stu on Getter has put up white, white, white, white. He also does hate white people.
So he does. Well, that's right.I mean, yeah, I'm sure you've seen it, Peter. We've all seen the clip of Humza Yousaf standing up in the Scottish Parliament And spitting out the word, you know, this was when he was justice minister.[44:33] That 96% of judges were white.But Scotland's a 96% white society.Why the hell? I mean, just basically, broadly speaking, you would expect public representation to be broadly aligned with the demographic.So if that had been a white person saying that speech and using a different ethnicity, they would have been absolutely pilloried on it.He got away with it. And it tells you more about him. I don't think, and I know everyone watching this, I'm sure we're all the same, we shouldn't judge anyone on the colour of their skin.We should believe that people should be given or get the jobs based on their merits and their ability and not on their skin colour.That seems to agitate Humza Yousaf.And maybe it's a good insight into his character as a man.
Completely. I just see on the chat, I see my good friend, balconymuppet23, who says, let's pray they don't Epstein Trump. That's a whole other story. Well, not, sorry, just.[45:39] It's great. People contact me and want to get on, get her, because they want to join in, in the chat. So, that is one way you can jump in that. What else? Yeah, two last, last two stories.Dave and I could do this all night, but we won't because David will get thirsty and everyone else will get bored.So onto this COVID, goodness, we haven't done COVID, and don't worry, here it is.World Health Organization says healthy children and teens probably don't need a COVID vaccination.So healthy children and adolescents were deemed low priority in new guidance.The WHO said traditional routine shots were more important for the age group.Wow, what a change. What have they been doing jabbing all these children if they didn't need to?
Yeah, that's the point. I mean, the World Health Organization, it's almost like a, it's a grotesque organization.As you said, Peter, and we talked about it when we've done this over the last couple of years, you know, they were pushing jabs into kids down to the age of five years old, little tiny kids.And you've got to get the jab even though they were statistically at no risk from a virus which may or may not exist, but still get them the jab anyway.And then of course we see the adverse reactions. And they were even working on could they get a jab into kids as young as six months.So that's what they were saying. And of course.[47:08] A lot of parents went with that, a lot of parents did. So a lot of very young kids.[47:15] And I'm talking like 11 and under, took the jabs, and as well as the ones in their teens and stuff, and this was to give them protection. Now 'the end of the' World Health Organization is sort of saying, well, look, you didn't really, maybe you didn't need to do that, don't worry about it. But everything to worry about, those kids have now got their bodies brimming with mRNA and all the stuff around that and to do with the implications for their health. So yeah, it's kind of shocking that having, you know, I mean, I wonder how people who took their advice, Peter, I wonder, how they feel now when they, if they even see that, you know, if they even see that where the WHO is basically saying, yeah, well, maybe not. And of course, but at the same time, though, to put it in perspective, our great British government is turning around and saying, is it from next week?Heads up, everyone, new jabs for the over 75-year-olds. All those 75-year-olds, because maybe they want to thin, they might want to thin the herd a wee bit, cull the numbers so that the pension, they don't have to be paying pensions to the people 75 plus.So yeah, it's all over. There's no consistency.We've talked about this often enough over the past few years.The bubble has burst on COVID. The dam has burst and it's coming out, and you know this after Richard Walter and all of that, Peter.The information is, we've been pushing it, pushing it, pushing it.[48:40] The facts, the problem is, well, not the problem, it's not a problem.Reality is the facts back up what we've been saying.These things aren't safe, they're not effective, they're potentially lethal, they're very ill-advised, and people should think very, very carefully before they allow that stuff into their body.We have said that from day one, from December of 2020, vilified for it by the likes of Richard Tice, by the likes of Piers Morgan, all the rest of them. And now here we have the World Health organization saying, well, oh, actually, yeah, maybe you don't need them.[49:13] And to me, this should change everything with anyone who has gone with this, that they were doing what they were told to do, jabbing themselves with an experimental substance, and then they're told, actually, you didn't need to get that done in the first place.It's too late. You've already had it. And to me, that should make anyone who's participated in this madness sit up and think, why did I get it?And it's too late. If the WHO, if the government changed their guidance after you've had it, it is too late.And I don't know why people didn't just wait to see what was going to happen.[49:50] Because they were... Now, it's an interesting one. This is, I believe, the kinder part of my mind says people were subject to military grade psyops on a likes Peter we've never seen in our lives, you know, during sort of 2020.
As were we.
You and I, David. Yes, yes, and we resist now, we resisted, why is that? Because I believe and I'm sure a lot of people following you, Peter, are the same. We're the critical thinkers, we're the people that go, whoa, hang on a second, I'm not just going to take somebody's word on this. I want to go and see if I can work it out for myself and find out and get other bits, other views. And so yes, we completely, you're right, we didn't, it didn't work on us. But the military psyops did work on about, you pick your percentage, but 80%, you know, whatever.And, but that's so many of our fellow citizens. And I find on some of my streams I've done[50:49] that even some of them have woken up now, and they've said to me, David, you know, I've taken a couple of these jabs, really wish I hadn't. And I'm going, yeah, you know, look, I understand, You know, we mustn't be hyper, what's the word, you know, we don't want to be sort of condescending and saying, oh, you silly people, if only you were as smart as us. No, no, people like to trust and to believe. I don't. So, and I suspect a lot of the critical thinkers aren't. But the masses do, the government tells them to do it, they think on balance the government's looking after us.But the World Health Organization begs to differ when it comes to this age group as well.But I wonder how much longer before the World Health Organization says, oh actually you see everybody, yeah you don't need to take these jabs.And that means everyone is now going to essentially be fooled.And I suspect that day is coming.[51:43] Yeah, yeah. Well, let's finish off again with a wonderfully good story. Not only have we found that actually all the people who gave a ticket, you didn't need to do it. And this is another wonderful story from the US CBS. Flu shot may help prevent heart attacks. Now, if this is the first that I've heard of such a substance that will stop heart attacks, I don't know if you're more aware of this than I am, but this was news to me.
It's a medical marvel. It's an absolute medical marvel. The flu shot might indeed, as you say, prevent. And now flu shot being for a respiratory disease, right? Alleged respiratory disease.[52:28] If you believe in the flu, I don't. But respiratory disease. So why would that stop a cardiac incident. See, they're not the same folks. Respiratory system, cardiac system, cardiovascular, very, very different. Why would that be? Unless, of course, it's just complete and utter spin and nonsense. I mean, these are the people that are also saying, oh, by the way, you know, climate change, it can actually cause heart attacks. Well, actually, if I listened to the likes of Greta Von Doomberg long enough, I probably would have a heart attack. But other Other than that, climate change isn't causing heart attacks.Laughing too much isn't causing heart attacks.Yeah, I'm afraid. But there might be one thing that's causing heart attacks.But as we discovered when it came to the late Paul O'Grady, we're not allowed to talk about it.[53:23] We're not. But as we're not on YouTube, just to let you know, David may be talking about the mRNA jabs that many people took.Sorry, just a little asterisk in the bottom of that in case some of us didn't get that.
I was being way too subtle. I know. Okay, let's rephrase that.The death jab might be responsible for that.
 
The clot shot as well. Which is another version of it. So I don't want David to hold back.I don't want them telling me, why did you not let me say what the truth was in any way?David, thank you as always for coming on. Let me actually, let me just show four pictures which you've shared just to finish off with. We'll not really discuss them because we have no time, but just good to leave people with some. There's David leaving us with pictures of, I don't know the people he knows or friends. I don't really want to delve into that, but these are people obviously with issues in their lives and they need more help than an mRNA jab.[54:28] This was a lovely meme. They're going to keep creating mass shootings until you give up your guns. Once you give up your guns, they're going to kill you. You know what that's right. Just for our American friends who understand this, we Brits don't have the guns, but you may in America do.Maybe we need you to come and rescue us once again. There was this, was this a video?I think it was a picture, was it?I enjoyed it.
 
It was a picture, yeah.
 
Hate crime. If you're white, drown the violence. If you're one of the rainbow colours, that was really funny.The final one was, let me bring up the final one.This one, I wasn't quick enough on the buzzer.This was on the light newspaper. And, oh, thank you ProJam. You were there ahead of me.Oh, there. And it is this, the problem with natural immunity is that it's free and that is big pharma speaking.I think that explains everything that has happened over the last three years in terms of power, in terms of money and in terms of control.And on that, David, what do you have coming up soon? What can people look forward to apart from you and Charlotte on Twitter space?[55:51] So yeah, so we've got a Monday live stream coming up. I've got a really good guy, Francis O'Neill, coming on with me next Monday.Then following Wednesday, Wednesday week, I've got, just by way of diversion, I've got a guy called Jeff from Jeff Buys Cars.It's a YouTube channel, Jeff Buys Cars. Really, really good guy.He's ended up buying his cars.But he's become more and more, let's say, awakened. And he's very interesting on electric vehicles, the insanity of electric vehicles, 15 minute cities, the insanity and the worst of 15 minute cities.So we got Jeff coming on the stream. So we're trying to mix it up a bit.And I tell you what, it is really important. I mean, I'm very grateful for this opportunity with you Peter on a regular basis.But I think it's also really great to expose our audiences to different voices.As you do as well, so that they get different perspectives, because it is really quite fascinating.You know, there's so many people out there, you know, and have really interesting views and are very knowledgeable on different topics.And sometimes I think the job that we do is still enable them to speak.[57:01] And so that's what's happening. So Monday night, 8 p.m., join me and, or Monday night, say 8 p.m., join me, and, or on replay or whatever.And yeah, we'll see how, and as I said, there'll be more stuff.Don't forget the Daily Podcast as well.Above anything else, the Daily Podcast, the hardest working podcast channel in the UK, Peter, six a day. Who can better that?None.
So, no. It's- The name you gave on next Wednesday, is that a pseudonym for Phillip Schofield, We Buy Any Car? Because that would be a weird program.
 
Well, look, and Phillips taking a break, a much needed break.[57:42] Yeah, and we're not going there as well, yeah.
 
Well, no, I just feel sorry for Gordon the Gopher.He's never been the same since.
 
No, no, I think he's undergoing deep psychological therapy.[57:54] To help him through the difficulties.
We will finish on that without going into anything.
No, we're not going to, exactly. We're finishing on Gordon the Gopher.I mean, who says that Hearts of Oak doesn't go into all the areas that nobody else wants to go to.
All the important issues, but I'll thank our viewers for tuning in.If you're listening later on Podbean or the podcasting apps, thank you very much for being with us.And for us on, what day of the week this is, on Monday, we've got Michele Bachmann.So I did a pre-recorded Michele a few days ago, obviously was candidate for the Republican presidential candidate in 2011, and is now Dean at Regent University down in Virginia Beach.So tune in on Monday for that, as you can watch that and then David later, or vice versa, I'll leave it up to you.The great thing is technology brings it to you post the event, so you don't have to just do live, but we'll leave that with you.And on that, I wish all of you a wonderful rest of your evening, enjoy your Saturday, have an absolutely wonderful weekend, and look forward to seeing you on Monday.So thank you and good evening.

Peter Mcilvenna - Grooming Gang Survivor Awarded £425k Against Her Rapist in Landmark Ruling

Today is a great day, for the first time in British history the courts have ruled that 'Liz', a grooming gang survivor should receive compensation from her perpetrator.We at Hearts of Oak are so glad to have been a part of this process along with Lord Pearson's financing, Robin Tilbrook's legal expertise and Charlie Peters from GB News' journalistic skills and we hope it can open the floodgates to thousands of other survivors.It has truly been an honour to get to know Elizabeth through this long and arduous process, her courage and strength are an inspiration to us all. It is unbelievable that anyone who has gone through such a traumatic experience must find the money to pay for a separate legal bid to force an already convicted rapist to pay compensation. Our government and MP's have accepted this situation and we have not heard of a single MP who has tried to change the law so that survivors are automatically awarded compensation from their attackers. This episode we have a brief talk with Elizabeth and then discuss this landmark ruling and ask why no one up till now has funded and ran a similar case. Why are our MP's silent on child rape. Why has no one been prosecuted in our institutions for facilitating child rape and how does this case open the doors to other survivors to get compensation from their rapists.GB News exclusive by Charlie Peters https://www.gbnews.com/news/grooming-gangs-survivor-secures-landmark-ps425000-legal-win-against-rapistRead or listen to Elizabeth's harrowing story, available in paperback, e-book or on Audible https://www.amazon.co.uk/Snatched-Trapped-Woman-Sold-Men/dp/0008503214/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1679936701&sr=8-1Follow and support Elizabeth on Twitterhttps://twitter.com/snatched1400?s=20Originally broadcast live 27.3.23 (apologies for Elizabeth's sound at the beginning of her chat)
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The Week According To . . . Caroline Farrow

Caroline Farrow is back with us as we discuss our way through the big stories this week in the news and across the media. Expect free thinking, free speech and plenty of opinion as Caroline let's us know what she really thinks about the topics this episode including.....- Migrants could be housed on old ferries as the government ends hotel stays.- Unelected PM Rishi Sunak bans media from Conservatives’ conference.- Hey Waterstones... stop pushing dangerous gender ideology at children!- #LetWomenSpeak: New Zealand tour explodes into violence as hard left men's rights activists show the world exactly who they are.- Violent male paedophile moved to Washington women’s prison.- Uproar as Kent Police is slammed for poster classifying rapes as non-emergency crimes.- Watershed moment in the trans debate, sparked by the landmark decision about female athletes.- Humza Yousaf commits to introducing abortion up to birth and sex-selective abortion in Scotland if he becomes the next First Minister.* CitizenGo Waterstones Petition https://citizengo.org/en-gb/fm/210382-waterstones-stop-pushing-dangerous-gender-ideology-childrenIn 2010, frustrated by many of the media headlines and negative coverage of Catholicism, Caroline began a blog in defence of Catholic teaching and to reflect on UK current affairs and world events through the lens of a Catholic woman. What began as nothing more than personal musings designed to explain and propose controversial ethics and life issues to those who had struggled with them, or to de-bunk misleading narratives and headlines, soon mushroomed and popular posts would receive more than 30,000 unique visitors a day. Between 2011 and 2017, she was a member of the organisation Catholic Voices, set up to promote the defence of Catholic teaching in the public square and made numerous media interventions on their behalf and quickly became the 'go to' voice for media organisations looking to represent a female conservative Catholic point of view. Since 2013 Caroline has writes a weekly column for the Catholic Universe and has written for and featured in a number of other publications such as the Catholic Herald, the National Catholic Register, the Conservative Woman, Mercatornet, Crisis Magazine, LifeSiteNews and Church Militant. She used to write on Catholic culture at the now defunct Spectator Arts blog and has been featured in the Daily Mail, the Observer and the New Statesman. In 2013, Caroline was included as part of the first cohort of the BBC's '100 women' and she regularly features on BBC News, Sky News, ITV's Good Morning Britain, BBC Sunday Morning Live, the Big Questions and has made multiple appearances on Radio 4's flagship Today programme, Woman's Hour, the Moral Maze and the Sunday programme as well as featuring in one-off documentaries. Caroline also presented the coverage for March for Life UK for EWTN and has contributed to News Nightly and Celtic Connections. She also frequently contributes to Talk Radio, LBC and BBC local radio as well as BBC Radio Ulster, discussing matters pertaining to Catholicism, feminism and the challenges of motherhood and family life. Caroline has an eclectic career background. She began her professional life as a student accountant for a big 5 firm before succumbing to a desire for travel and adventure and became a member of cabin crew working both long and short-haul routes for internationally acclaimed airlines. Having got the travel bug out of her system, she returned to work within investment banking and private equity in the City of London until her first child was born. Caroline is currently the campaign director at CitizenGO, has 5 children of school-age, four girls and one boy and is married to a Catholic priest who converted from Anglicanism, a few years after they were married.Follow and support Caroline at the following links...GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/cf_farrowTwitter: https://twitter.com/CF_Farrow?s=20&t=Je-7QgQaAve5NCKtELcYNgWebsite: https://www.carolinefarrow.netCitizenGo: https://citizengo.orgOriginally broadcast live 25.3.23
*Special thanks to Bosch Fawstin for recording our intro/outro on this podcast.
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[0:22] So without further ado, Caroline, thank you so much for coming back with us tonight.
Always a pleasure, always a pleasure, Peter.
Always good to have you. And we are not short of stories, as always.Let, actually, let me, let me just see if I can pull in.Do let me know where you're watching. I'll have the, certainly the GETTR page open for your comments in there.So do let us know where you're watching we'll get to see the international flavour of fuel jumping on. So let's start with the UK and we'll start with immigration. Very hot subject. The title here from the Telegraph is migrants could be housed on old ferries as Rishi Sunak ends hotel stays. People who arrive illegally on small boats will initially be moved into decent but rudimentary accommodation, government said to announce.[1:22] And there was one figure here, Rishi Sunak expected to declare as early as next week, the beginning of the end of asylum hotels which are currently being used to house more than 50,000 migrants at a cost of nearly seven million pounds a day. What are your thoughts on this story that those who come over illegally could be put on boats?
 
It just shows what a shambolic mess our, immigration system is in. I think it's appalling actually. I mean in some ways I'm sure[1:58] many people would say well it's a deterrent, it will make only those who really have no other choice than to come here, it will make people who are perhaps what they call economic migrants think twice, but it is clearly inhumane, you know, putting people on boats, you know, to live.And it just shows that we really need to have a rethink of our immigration policy, because clearly, the reason that they're going to, well, I say clearly, the reason that this policy has been mooted is because at the moment we're spending £7 million a day housing asylum seekers or refugees. And again, I want to be really careful because when we're talking about these groups of people, we are talking about human beings who do have human rights, who do have human dignity.You know these are these are people wanting to come to Britain to make a better life and I'm not going to slam anybody for wanting to to go to a country to seek a better life for themselves you know that that is you know an inherent an intrinsic human right but equally countries do have the rights to police their borders but we must make sure that we do it justly and fairly. Now if we've got so many people coming to this country that we cannot physically house them, that we have to put them on boats, then we need to have a balanced and grown-up discussion about immigration.[3:27] What our immigration policy should be. We can't clearly just say let's have open borders. It'd be lovely, wouldn't it? It'd be lovely to say everybody who wants to come here can come here and you're guaranteed a welcome and the British people are very tolerant and very hospitable, all of those things are true. It'd be lovely if we could do that, but we are a smallish island, and our infrastructure is already creaking at the seams. So whenever you talk about immigration and whenever you talk about people coming here on boats or people making their way illegally, and you express some concern, you get tarred as a racist or far-right bigot or compared to Hitler's Germany is the latest slur, but there is an issue here. When we have got people that we just don't have, we are spending seven million a day at a time when we are so overstretched economically, when our infrastructure is in chaos, and then we're saying, okay, well, we can't,[4:24] housing people in hotels is not sustainable at seven million a day, just, you know, either in terms of the cost or in terms of how much room we have, so we've got to, you know, put them on boats, then we we need to have some serious policy about numbers, who we can accommodate you know and have and have a procedure for allowing those people who can come here.Who have a legitimate reason to be here, who have ties with this country, and who want to build a new life for themselves and work. We need to facilitate that, but equally[4:58] we can't, much as it would be great to allow every single person to come in, we don't have the infrastructure to do that. And shoving people on boats, I think, is a cruel and inhumane policy. You wouldn't like to live on a boat. We're warned of the dangers of not dehumanising people, but actually when you start putting people on boats or in army barracks, that's exactly what it does. It treats people, not as people, but as a number and a problem. That's not a humane, and I'm a Christian obviously, and that's not a Christian way of dealing with it. So it's a very fraught issue but we need some sensible grown-ups to the table and I think both sides could do with dialling down the rhetoric. So expressing concern about this and saying, you know, okay, what are the numbers we can accommodate? It's not racist.[5:57] Equally, and it's not Nazi Germany either, but equally on the other side of the coin, being really really harsh and firm and calling people names and attacking people isn't the answer either and you know and I do think we we do have to do something to stop people from coming over on these inflatable dinghies and risking their lives you know and it's not good it's not good for political cohesion because it is you know we've seen riots outside hotels which is which is terrible which is not what we want to see and we don't condone you know and And the reason, certainly nobody can condone that, and it must be awful for those people who are inside the hotels when they are subject to those protests, you know, you've got to remember that there are human beings involved.But this is because of the resentment that is building, being built up by these policies, because I think I was reading in the Telegraph, the Red Wall constituencies up north, they are having like 16 times the amount of asylum seekers or refugees that are being housed in the South and the South East.And the other point I want to make, I mean this is a very personal one,[7:14] I'm very open about the fact that my two youngest children have special needs and right now we need to get primary school places for our children and they've been turned down from six local primary schools because there are no places because they're being taken up by Ukrainian children. Now I don't resent Ukrainian children a school place at all and one might argue, well, Caroline, you're middle class, you're educated, you know, it's not as important for your children to have a place as it is the Ukrainian children. And I might agree with you, I might not, but at the end of the day, not everybody's going to have that attitude and be in a position where they think, okay, I'm going to see what I can do to cobble together an education at home.But equally, what it means is you're having to put one child over another, you're having to prioritise children for school places.We've got a crisis in the NHS and there's a crisis in dentistry, so you're having to prioritise one person's need over another.[8:23] So we can't just continue to say, OK, everybody who wants to come here should be able to come here and that's fine, without, you know, some serious thought to the question.
No completely and we'll move on but a simple way of fixing it would actually be to, actually process the people probably within weeks and put them back where they came from if they do if they are able to go back but that would be common sense but that would seem to fix the issue.But anyway moving on let's just touch on this subject quickly because I want to go on some of of the others. But I find this interesting and this is Rishi Sunak bans media from Conservative Spring Conference. Press and public barred from attending with party, claiming it is an internal event closed to media. And I know I've been to many UKIP conferences, Caroline I'm sure you've been as citizen go to different political conferences and it is quite essential I think part of the democratic process to for the meditative access to these political conferences.
Yeah, I don't think we should gloss over this actually. I think this shows we have a need for a new political settlement. This is almost like something out of Putin's Russia.[9:39] You know, the Conservative Party are, you know, years ago, the Conservative Party have always had amongst, I suppose, politics always been tribal, and the Tory Party have always had a reputation of being the elites and very divorced from the working class. They're not helping themselves with this. In the 80s, Thatcher's Tories were all about, oh yeah, you know, Basildon Man, Wolverhampton Man, you know. I mean, we're in touch with the working man and we're in touch with the working people and we want to help people make better lives for themselves. This just screams we are the elite, we are the elite, we are you know this is this is a party who,[10:23] by the looks of things, are not going to win the next general election, or they might, and this is really unfortunate actually, because the Tory party might win the next general election on the issue of gender ideology, and because Tories can say what is a woman, the Tories are also doing the right thing on sex education lessons, they're not doing enough, we need, I might get onto that later, but we need the review of sex education in classes to be independent. We can't have the Department for Education doing the review or the inquiry because they've been captured for so many years and useless for so many years, you know, they've been captured by Stonewall. But so the Tories are doing the right thing on gender ideology and they're doing the right thing on relationships and sex education, well they're kind of on their way to doing the right thing, whereas Keir Starmer can't even make up his mind what a woman is or what his stance is, and he can see what's happened to Nicola Sturgeon.But actually, the Tories don't deserve to get in. They're going to use this gender ideology and what they've done to suck up some Labour votes, but they don't actually deserve to get in.[11:35] Particularly if they're going to have their conference and they're going to shut off, media and the public and it just smacks of we are the elites and we are deciding, we're in government, we don't actually care about whether or not we get in next time or we're just so complacent we think we're going to get in. And the jargon they're using is like real left-wing Marx, you know, this is a training event, I mean for goodness sake, a training event, when has a conference been an internal training event? Yeah, it smacks of elitism, it's quite.It smacks of authoritarianism as well, you know, Soviet era, you know, group of people over there.No, I think it's very worrying and it speaks of a need, I think, for a new political settlement or a new political party to be more transparent and more in touch. You know, we're just, oh, I'm sick of politicians.
 
Oh, so am I. So let's move from this story, Let's move on to the work that you're doing in CitizenGo.[12:42] This is Waterstone Stop Pushing Dangerous Gender Ideology at Children, one of your campaigns.And the viewers can see that Waterstone, so yeah, Waterstone's UK's leading high street book retailer has shortlisted the book entitled My Trans Teen Misadventure by Lewis Hancock, a transgender identified female for its prestigious children's book prize due to be awarded 30th of March and this is aimed at 14 year olds. It's unbelievable that Waterstones would be pushing a book like this for their children's book prize and it's wonderful to see obviously the support to this petition has gained but tell us about this campaign Caroline.
 
Well okay it's not actually the first time Waterstones have done this so just before I started Citizen Go in 2019, they had another book that was about a boy who wanted to be a mermaid, and that was written by an LGBT. I think he might have been a transgender identified man, I'm not entirely sure, but certainly someone who identified as a member of the LGBT community and It was all about this boy who wants to be a mermaid and a drag queen and they nominated that as well.[13:59] And I think clearly the head of children's is obviously fully on board the woke gender train.Now the reason that this book caught my attention is because it actually has an adult advisory, on the back. So it's been nominated for a children's prize but with an adult warning advisory on the back. And I don't know if you've been into Waterstones but they have their book of their weeks, they have their promos. And being nominated for this book is, for this award is a real honour. It's really prestigious, it's going to make your book sales rocket and it's going to make your profile rocket. Now Waterstones are a high, as you know though, the UK's leading bookseller. They're really trusted, you know, sometimes you want something to read and you go[14:50] into Waterstones and you see what they're recommending and you're like, oh right, okay, I'll have a look. Now these books are being placed on tables where there's a high footfall of children and adolescents as well, so but in that kind of child and adolescence area and you'll see on the table, we recommend this book. Now the thing is, as you know I've got many children, I know exactly what they're like and they will be attracted to a book and they won't see, oh, that's for older readers.So this book has a cartoon on the front. Welcome to Hell, My Trans Teen Misadventure.It's the sort of thing that my 8-year-old son might pick up, because it looks like Horrid Henry or something. Do you know what?It appeals to a younger demographic.He would pick it up, and he wouldn't look at the warning on the back.And then he flicks through, and he sees these cartoons. Now, all children love cartoons.My children are no different. They like the Beano.They like Bunny and Monkey and Dogman. And all children like cartoons.And that's fine. And Waterstones sell these nice cartoon books.So he would see that, or my 10-year-old daughter might see this, and they'd flick through it.[15:59] Then you've got that picture, which I've got illustrating the petition, which is basically the author of this book is projecting her own experience as a woman who wanted to be a man when she was an adolescent.And it's just encouraging teenage girls to just self-hate on their bodies.So breasts are two fatty lumps that need to be gone.[16:23] There's stuff about hairy legs, you know, and then it's, you know, it points to her pubic area and it says, don't go there, an imaginary willy.I mean, no, it's just validating every single hitch from hell.Teen girls, almost every teen girl has some neurosis or anxiety about her body, that's entirely and 100% natural. This book is sowing the seeds of self-doubt, of hatred, and it's validating that and it's saying, oh, the female body is disgusting and something not to be liked.[16:57] And, you know, there's no way that just a 14-year-old would read that. Probably actually, many savvy 14-year-olds would go, oh, that's a comic book.I'm well beyond. They might actually turn their noses up at it because it looks maybe a little bit too babyish.So it is clearly designed to appeal to a younger demographic.But even if you were 14 and older, it's validating teen girls' anxieties about their body.But worse still, Waterstones then came out with, oh, this is one page out of context.No, there's another cartoon where it shows a girl being injected with either puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones.And she was going, yeah, yeah, just in time for uni.So it's kind of telling girls, oh, my goodness, you've got to get this done before you go to uni.And then you have the nurse. She's learning something from the experience.And then they mentioned Keira Bell, the detransitioner. And they were saying, oh, yeah, there was this girl.And she really regretted it.And she took them to court and made it much harder for everyone.But fine, it's all been sorted out now. And you can get puberty blockers.[18:08] And this other girl who has a beard and is now allegedly a man says, oh, yeah, this was the best thing I ever did. That's not a balanced discussion at all.That's just pushing gender transition at children. And when we see countries around the world putting the brakes on and saying, actually, there isn't the evidence to show that this is safe.We're quite concerned about the long-term health effects, you know, effects on bone density, on brain development, you know, all those things.As puberty is a time when your body is laying down the foundations for the rest of your life.[18:42] It's a completely natural process and sort of stopping with it has never ever been done before in human history and you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it, is the phrase. But certainly there are a lot of concerns, long-term health concerns about puberty blockers. We're seeing young girls now with osteoporosis and arthritis, you know, and you take testosterone as a woman and it's It's very difficult to come back from that.But there's no balanced discussion. It's just propaganda.And what gets me about this, if this was like Asterix, for example, another great cartoon book. So in great literature, it's not cartoons.This is not a book that would be read in a classroom. It wouldn't be studied for GCSE literature.It has absolutely no literary merit whatsoever.Fine, of course, Waterstones are going to sell cartoon books because they sell and they're fine.And we have a phrase in our house, donut books.So certain authors and certain books, they're allowed to, you know, my kids are allowed to read them.Of course they are, but it's like a donut. You know, you don't have too much of it.So David Walliams being one of those, yeah, don't get me started.[19:59] But you know, that's, so the cartoon books are like the donut books.They're not the books that you would study all the time.And certainly, you know, not really about, and yet Waterstones have thought this worthwhile to put on a children's prestigious literature award.[20:20] I suppose Harry Potter came out too late, but you know, everyone would have sneered at Harry Potter, but, and they did, when Harry Potter came out, everybody sneered at it.Oh, it's not great literature, blah, blah, blah. you know, Harry Potter should be on there or, you know, it's not the magician's nephew, is it?[20:37] It's not C.S. Lewis. It's just a very crude cartoon book pushing gender ideology. And actually[20:46]i've been blown away by the success of this petition. This has been the most successful petition I've run, I think, in the past year, you know, and the numbers just exploded. And yeah, I'm going to keep plugging it and we are going to do some offline. What I would like to do is get a decent children's book and see if I can get a decent children's book into schools and libraries because this is a problem. Once this book goes on this list, then schools go, oh yes, it must be very good, mustn't it? Waterstones say, and same with libraries. So actually, I think there's a case for countering their propaganda with some betterpropaganda. And the other thing, actually, sort of, Peter, while I'm on Waterstones, the other thing is that they appear to have been suppressing two books, one by Helen Joyce called Trans and the other by Hannah Barnes called Time to Watch or Time to Wait. And it's an investigation of the Tavistock gender identity clinic. And lots of people have been going into Waterstones and asking for copies of these books and finding that Waterstones staff have basically hid them out back.And that, you know, they can't get them. I went into Waterstones in Godalming and asked for them.[22:12] You know, and yeah, no, I don't have any of those. No, you'll have to order them. And certainly some of the more woke stores in London, there's been reports of staff hiding them away. So yeah, Actually, Waterstones, you are a leading high street retailer and you enjoy a lot of customer trust.[22:38] Let me, the viewers and listeners can go to citizengo.org and go and have a look at those petitions. Sign it, but also put it on your social media profile, send it on to others.Don't only you go and click on sign up, but make others aware of it as well.And then you'll be passing the word and raising the concern of this and also introduce some people to Citizen Go. So go and do that.When you finish watching this, have a click on it and make use of that.Now, let's go and look at Down Under, New Zealand.Can you call New Zealand Down Under? I think you can. I don't know.I don't want to get into that argument between Aussies and the Kiwis, but UK trans critic, Kelly J Keane, there are a whole load of issues I have even just with the headline, but anyway.[23:30] UK trans critic Kelly J Keane or Posie Parker is doused in tomato sauce and evacuated by cops before she can speak during the latest rally in New Zealand as she considers cancelling the rest of her tour. And the little bullet points here are Kelly J. Keen was doused with tomato juice, said she fears for her life, fears for life in inverted commas, meaning that I don't know why they're trying to take away from that, or and then transphobe may cancel the rest of her tour, again inverted commas, the Daily Mail calling someone who stands up for the rights of women to be women a transphobe, and then puts in men in Nazi clothing also join protests, again the Daily Mail linking her with that which is complete nonsense. But obviously people can go on to Posey's Twitter account can see the violence which she has faced.[24:27] Talk to us about this, Caroline, and I know you've, I think I saw a tweet from you back 2020 when you were voicing support of Posie Parker and what she is trying to do, to stand up for women and to say that men have no right in those spaces and a woman is a woman, full stop. But tell us about this.[24:49] Well, I mean, Posie's been, or Kelly, Kelly J, has been working since sort of 2017, 2018, which was when I first met her. But yeah, she did a, so she does these events around the country called Let Women Speak. Now, these events are amazing, they empower other women. So it's an open mic event, it's a bit like some speaker's corner. So she goes and she, it's not her preaching at people, she allows women to go and take the microphone and tell their story. Now, Posey does not discriminate at all. If you're a woman and you want to have the mic, she doesn't pre-screen you, she doesn't say what are your views on this, that and the other. If you want to talk about female emancipation, well it's not even emancipation, but if you want to talk about your story about why you think men shouldn't be allowed in changing rooms or your daughter's been getting changed in Primark and she's had some man come in, she's all about, or you're a victim of of domestic violence and whatever it might be.She's all about empowering women to tell their stories. And she doesn't tell you what story you should tell.This is about helping women to find a voice.[26:04] And now, of course, a lot of people don't like that because let women speak.They don't want women speaking. And they say it's terribly transphobic.Well, I don't actually know.The first time I was called a transphobe.[26:19] I remember it was in 2011 and I just laughed, I thought this is a made-up word.[26:25] What are you talking about, a transphobe? and it is a made-up word and basically anybody who, stands up for the rights of women to have single-sex spaces and to have single-sex associations gets called a transphobe because you know men who identify as women want to be in our spaces and want to be in our groups because it gives them validation. Yeah, I'm a real woman, I'm using your spaces, I'm in your clubs, you know, it gives them the validation that they want and they need and they require, but at a massive cost to women. So it comes at a cost to religious women.[27:04] You know, particularly Jews and Muslims who, you know, aren't allowed to share those spaces, so it drives religious women out of public life. And it comes at a cost to rape victims or domestic abuse victims, people who've had a really bad experience with male violence, with rape, and they just are very, very traumatized by men and they just don't want men in their spaces.Or just normal, I say normal, but just ordinary women and girls who don't have a history of trauma but just feel very, very uncomfortable.And we're just told, no, no, no. You should accept men in your spaces.You should accept men in your sports. I remember a few years ago doing a radio interview.And I was talking about the fact that my, I think she was about 13 then.My 13-year-old daughter had been made to feel very uncomfortable because she was getting fitted for a bra. and there was men milling about.And somebody said to me, well, what have you done, Caroline, to make your daughter hate men.[28:13] It's like, no, I don't. This isn't about hatred. This is about girls' natural boundaries.And you ask any parent of any ordinary, well-adjusted teenager, when they're little, yes, they will toddle around the house with no clothes or very inhibited.And then they hit sort of 10, and the bathroom door shuts.And they start finding their own privacy, their own boundaries.And they're drawing up their boundaries. And you have to respect that.We all have our own boundaries.But actually, what we are being told is, you must be kind.You must be kind. You must be nice. And you must let your guard down.So if you're getting changed in the gym and you're getting naked, and there's a woman in there with a penis, it's your fault if you've got an issue with that.[29:01] So Posie is just, actually, Posie's just a normal wife and a mom.And Posie's been in the very fortunate position that she was a stay-at-home mom.She didn't have to work. And she got very, and she's always counted herself, actually.This is why it's really strange that she gets called right wing.She always countered herself as a lefty. She was always like, yeah, I'm a left wing woman. I'm a lefty atheist.Again, she gets pilloried because she associates with the likes of me, who doesn't agree with abortions.They're like, I mean, these, and you get this as well. even from the left-wing feminists, trying to tell her, trying to police who she should and should not be friends with, who she should and should not associate with.You know, everybody's sort of trying to tell, take Posie's autonomy from her, tell her, you know, oh, if you want to be a good little feminist, this is what you should do. And Posie, you know,[29:58] Is a marketing genius and all power to her. She's gone out there and she's got the message out there and of course, you know when you're on target because you're getting a lot of flack. So Posie has got a load of flack from the left-wing feminists who've been tarring her as a right-wing Nazi bigot and then of course that's been picked up by the trans activists. literally she's She's been in the position of just, because she didn't have to work, and she got drawn into this debate.But she's put her heart and soul into this. And just being able to put, she thought of putting woman, adult, human, female on billboards and on the t-shirts.And she's gone global. And good luck to her. And I'm not convinced, actually.So in Australia, what happened was she went to Australia, a bunch of neo-Nazis turned up and they were doing Hitler salutes.Now, I'm not sure, I don't know, but I almost wonder if this could be an Antifa...[31:09] Because who does that in this day and age? Who does that? I mean, I didn't even know that that was a thing. People going out, goose-stepping. I shouldn't laugh because the Nazi salute is not funny, it's heinous, it's traumatic and what it's associated with. But this is not, and normally, I mean I don't know, I don't associate, contrary to popular belief, I don't know anyone who identifies as hard right or far right. I don't know any neo-nazis or any fascists.But I kind of think, don't these sorts of people stay in the shadows? Because they know that their beliefs aren't mainstream and aren't going to be accepted. I mean, who does that? It goes out like...[31:59] But Caroline, do you not see it out when your local Sainsbury's or Tesco's and suddenly see 20 Nazis all lined up? Oh no, none of us ever see that. So you're right. The only way I can understand is that its staged , that's the only way it makes sense.
It's just so bizarre. And so she got all the flack, you know, for them turning up and she should have, apparently she should have immediately told them to go away.Right, okay, so Posie's five foot one.[32:26] You may have, she's a diminutive. I'm sure she won't mind me saying this.Potted Posie, no, she's a small lady.I'm not tall and she's sort of way below me. You know, so this diminutive little lady has to see a bunch of Nazis doing like a Basil Fawlty salute and tell them to go away. I don't think so. And it wasn't, whoever they were and whatever their motivation, I mean, far right people aren't going to support feminists anyway. They're not aligned with feminists. They have a very misogynistic outlook on life. And I think they were, if they were genuine far-right people, then they were obviously just leveraging, I think what the far-right are trying to do is leverage some of these issues that, you know, conservatives are concerned about, in order to maybe try and legitimize themselves and to try and get conservative support.But, but I'm, yeah, I'm very doubtful that they were genuine because it's,[33:31] As you say, it just doesn't ring true. I mean, who would be saluting to Hitler and why, you know?
It's play acting.
And one thing, if I can say, that I have admired Posie from afar.We were accused, or she was accused of being part of us, I think, because some of our team went to film an event down in Brighton.I think I have bumped into Posie once and talked to her for maybe 40 seconds.This was years ago, she probably had no idea who I was, and we went to film that thing in Brighton, the stand-up for women, and it was a public park, so we filmed, and suddenly the story is, and it's unbelievable, but yeah, I don't know Posie, Posie doesn't know me, good luck to her, we wish her the best from afar, but it's obviously these, the media, both kind of on the left and and then in the far right, they all try and paint a certain picture that isn't true, just to target their...[34:32] Yeah, and I think what's happened is very frightening to her. It must have been really frightening.Some of the pictures, people with their hands sort of on her throat. It turns out, I think it was security trying to get her away.And she said, you know, if I'd fallen over, I didn't think I was going to get up.And just the sheer naked aggression. And what was she doing, right? What was she doing?She was just saying, women can have a voice, women can speak.We don't want men in our changing rooms. We don't want men in our sports.And of course, we've had a good result with Athletics Federation yesterday as well.I think the tide is, I've said this for years, the tide is beginning to turn.But actually, it feels that there is being a significant shift.But it's awful for her, actually. Awful. and awful for the women of New Zealand to live in.
But we'll move on, but just one thing to leave the viewers is the first line, the first sentence, it gives the headlines and then it starts off in the article.This is the Daily Mail. The first word they use in the article is controversial, anti-trans.[35:43] It's controversial standing up for women's rights, women's only spaces?The Daily Mail have lost the plot. If any of you think actually the Daily Mail are on the side of common sense, that is utter nonsense. They're not. They're on the side of whatever is a good story for them and sells papers.
 
And actually you have to ask as well, when people say transphobe, like you know, they say, what do you mean? I'm not irrationally scared or whatever. You know,[36:08] what rights do you, does the transgender, transsexual community not have that they want?And I guess their answer is, we want everyone to accept that we are women, that we are the sex that we say we are.Now there is an argument, yeah, okay, I'm sure at work, people can use your new name and they can maybe use your new pronoun and people can treat you with dignity and respect.But there needs to be a balancing exercise in terms of common sense.And when somebody is being made to feel like they can't go to the loo all day at work because they feel very uncomfortable, then there needs to be sensible accommodation made.And it shouldn't be a case of, you know, the woman who's feeling uncomfortable because she's got a man in her changing room or whatever, it shouldn't be her that's made, you know, to feel uncomfortable.There needs to be, and none of the activists, a very sensible solution would be, well, let's have a third space, okay?Let's have men, let's have women, and let's have a third gender neutral.But the activists don't want that.[37:27] No, they will not stop. That is the frightening thing. Let's look, because this is one of the outcomes. We've got five minutes to spare, we'll do another four. We've touched on this, and again, sometimes you end up repeating the same stories, but just with different characters in different locations. And this is the worst one yet. Violent male pedophile moved to Washington Women's Prison, And there were some, yeah, here's the figure.So, Jolene Karisma Starr, born Joel Thomas Nicholas, is the latest male transfer to the Washington Correction Center for Women, which currently has approximately one dozen male inmates being housed in the facility.Just there, I can see the problem. A dozen male inmates in a woman's prison.But, Caroline, we see this regularly, probably every other week, another story of different parts of the world where a man, often who has been charged with rape or sexual assault of a woman, ends up with a group of women.There is no way you can describe[38:43] the suffering that then continues and the position that you put women in, putting a man who's doing that in a woman's prison.
Yeah, and it's not just the other female, I say other female, it's not just the female inmates that that person is terrorizing, it's also the female prison guards because they have to do intimate searches and all sorts.And so you're not just putting, and of course, every woman, regardless of whether or not she's an inmate, deserves dignity, respect and safety, but it's not just the inmates that are being put at risk, it's also the female prison staff.And the other thing you have to remember that is in women's prisons, most women who are in prison are not there for violent crime.[39:31] Female offending has a very different face to it to male offending. Now I know that there are women in prison for violent crime but I think the proportion, I think it's something like 75 percent, there's a very good website, Keep Prisons Single Sex, and I think it's something like over 75 percent of women who are in prison are not there for, it's for non-violent crime.[39:57] So you've got a very vulnerable demographic as well because most women in prison are disproportionately affected by domestic violence or they've had difficult lives, which is why they have ended up in prison.And we did another campaign this month, you may have seen, for Barbie Kardashian, a very violent 21-year-old who I can't repeat the things that he said about what he wants to do with his mother.He's threatened to rape, torture, and murder his mother. He's got a history of violent assault.He tried to kill a female social worker who was looking after him.And of course, Irish media, you're not allowed to talk about him in Irish media.They got an injunction out.And there's an Irish outlet called Gripped, who'd published a very detailed and telling history.And even though Barbie Kardashian, I mean, even the name just shows, tells you what he thinks of women.I can't remember what his real name is, but everyone knows him as Barbie Kardashian.[41:05] I think it's Alexandro something or other. I think it's Alexandro Gentile.But yeah, he's now known as Barbie, And he's this very, very violentprisoner, when he was jailed the guard I said, we're very worried, he still poses a significant threat to public safety and to women's safety and he's been jailed in women's, in Limerick[41:28] Prison. And when you look at his life, he's had a terrible life. He was brought up with abusive parents and his father co-opted him into domestic abuse of his mother and he's clearly very disturbed, very violent, very dangerous.So yes, you can have a slight bit of sympathy for a very disordered mindset.But it's not safe to put a man like that in close proximity with women who've already, you know, if you're a woman in prison, then you've had, most of the time, you've had a very hard life.[42:05] I'm not going to say that women should never be in prison or anything like that.But you have to accept that you're dealing with a very vulnerable demographic and they're being put at risk and so are the female prison guards. It has to stop. And in fact, if you haven't signed a Barbie Kardashian petition on Citizen Go, please do so. Because actually, every single day that goes past and these men are in our prisons, what's going to happen? What's going to have to happen before people realise the folly of this?
Let's just bring up this tweet.We'll see how much you want to admit. This is Graham Linehan.And some good news, at Flying Lawyer 73 has lost another case and owes his latest victim legal fees of £15,000.I believe now he owes between 80 and 100 grand to solicitors from a series of failed cases.Again, why is he allowed to continue doing this?Now you probably have an idea what this is about, but when people can spend this amount of money on nonsense through the legal system.[43:14] It makes you kind of wonder, well, where are our tax money going? Are they paying for it themselves?So, do you want to touch on this before we move on?
Briefly. So, Flying Lawyer 73 is Stephanie Hayden. Stephanie Hayden is the transgender-identified male who was responsible for my arrest in October, and he's also been responsible for the arrest of two other women. Kate Scottow, who was arrested, she was a breastfeeding mother, she was arrested in front of her autistic children, and I was arrested in front of my autistic children, and Bronwyn Dickinson, another woman, he got arrested. What Stephanie Hayden does, so Stephanie Hayden is a transgender identified activist who in 2018 came to prominence.[43:59] Basically trying to do a version of lawfare, so would go around trying to get people cancelled, he got people kicked out of their university positions.He tried to sue Mumsnet. It just made an absolute nuisance of himself.And he said, oh, I'm standing up for transgender rights.Now, anytime anybody says anything about Stephanie Hayden that Stephanie Hayden doesn't like, he reports them to the police and he sues them.And he claims when he reports them to the police, he trumps up the charges.So he told the police that I had posted memes about him on a forum. I hadn't.But the police were stupid enough to go, oh, gosh, that's terrible, isn't it?And came and seized my devices looking for evidence. They still haven't found it because I didn't do it.So he uses his transgender status as leverage with the police and gets the police to act as his personal militia. The police forces aren't joined up. So Surrey policewere quite surprised when I told them, you know he's had two other women arrested for this.Were like, well Caroline, save it for interview. She said, all right, save that for interview.[45:08] So it's not joined up and what Stephanie Hayden does is a two-pronged approach. So he'll try and have you arrested. He had the police called out to Graham Linehan as well and he will then sue you. He's suing me for the third time.And he sues you because he doesn't have a, to the best of my knowledge, he doesn't have a job.He calls himself a lawyer, but he's not a regulated or qualified or insured barrister, solicitor or legal executive.So he's eligible for the help with fees scheme, which is for people on low income or on certain benefits.So he will take out a claim against you in the high court and he's exempt from court fees.So if you sue somebody, it's typically about 5% of the claim and he sues for unlimited amounts.So he is about a 5,000 pound court fee. And that's in place to act as a barrier to stop vexatious claims. Stephanie does not have that barrier.And because Stephanie has a law degree, they then act as a litigant in person, which they appear to enjoy very much because they go to court and they start calling Barrister as malignant friend and everyone else just cringes and dies with embarrassment for them, honestly.[46:28] So and prior to suing, he's suing my boss at the moment. My boss said, oh, I've made it.You're not anybody in the UK. You're not doing effective work, unless you're, no, joke.He'll probably be transcribing this and saying, oh, they deliberately.So he's suing me for the third time. and he says, oh, you know, she's forcing me to sue her.[46:51] Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's bringing his claim, you know, she's forced me to do this.And so he forces, you rack up a lot of legal fees defending yourself because most people, you know, can't defend themselves in the high court, and it's all about[47:07] do you know the procedure? Anyone who's been through a court case knows it's not necessarily about evidence or rights and wrongs. It's do you know the procedure? And Stephanie Hayden clearly does. And yeah, and his behaviour in litigation, but before, it's quite bad as well.Oh goodness, it's quite shocking. But before he sued all these gender critical people, he was at Birkbeck University studying for law degrees, a mature student, and he sued, you just don't want this bloke in your orbit, because he sued all his fellow students as well and he sued the Students' Union because there was some argument about internal politics, he sued his landlady, he sued his, you know, and he has a history as well as he, if he doesn't pay his rent, then, you know, they obviously then take him to court for the unpaid rent and he sues them back for harassment. So amongst his former claimants are two landlords.And it's just really frustrating because he can just keep going to the court, filing another claim.[48:17] A master, you know, an admin judge will just briefly look at it and just check that it's procedurally right and they stamp it. And this is then, you know, taxpayers' monies, both in terms of the court fees and in terms of court time that's being wasted on these frivolous pursuits. So he sued an organisation called the Family Education Trust because they had retweeted somebody and made a comment which he thought could be about him and it was to do with vexatious litigants wasting money. So they retweeted something, it was up for less than an hour and he sued them for defamation and the court, the judges dismissed it and said that the the claim was fanciful, was devoid of reality and hopeless and he has to pay their legal costs.But he already owes various other people, including Associated Newspapers, who reported on when he got another woman arrested, they reported on the fact that he'd got another woman arrested, and he said, oh, it's defamation and harassment, sued them, lost that one, and he owes them like 30,000. So he owes, you know, for most people, if you owed that amount of money, you wouldn't sleep.[49:32] So I think there's a real issue here. I mean, this isn't just about my particular issues or my vendetta, but there's a real issue with the system that somebody can exploit the court system[49:47] in this fashion and when you can't get legal aid, you know, people are scrabbling for legal aid, and yet, you know, the system wasn't set up or clearly it never envisaged the help with fee schemes that it could be abused in this way. What it's done about it, I don't know, And presumably Peter, all of this, for somebody who really despises me, so Stephanie Hayden[50:13] every time I'm on any media outlet, every time I've been on GB News, he's made a complaint to Ofcom. For somebody who says he's so harassed by me and he's terrified and me saying things, you know, me just telling the truth that this is...[50:27] a dodgy character, puts him at risk of violence and what have you. For someone who claims that I'm harassing him, he follows my every online and mainstream media move. Yeah, so I know that this will probably be played back in court or to the police and I'm not saying it to cause any alarm or distress. I think this is actually a public interest issue, particularly when it's somebody trying to make themselves a media figure. So, you know, yeah, I think, yeah, I think it's public interest and I think something needs to be done. So, yeah, there we are with that one.
Yeah. Well, let's finish with this story, which is a good story. This is in the Telegraph.The week has turned in the gender war. There's been a watershed moment in the trans debate sparked with a landmark decision about female athletes, which you mentioned earlier, Caroline, and that's the World Athletics Council, which have ruled that only those born as women can compete in[51:36] women's sports, which did seem quite common sense to most of us, but yeah, they have ruled that common sense will prevail. So it is a positive story, and I think the article talks about that this could actually spread into other areas and bring that, I guess, sense of common sense to the debate in other parts of society?
 
Yeah, I hope so. And, you know, I think.[52:04] what's been really, this has been quite a grassroots movement right from the start, you know, like we talked about Posie Parker.[52:14] But we can see there a picture of Sharron Davies. And it's just really gratifying that we've had JK Rowling and Sharron Davies.And some of these really big names speak out because someone like me, someone like Posie, we get called right wing bigots, transphobes.[52:37] But you see someone like Sharron Davies, who she feels really or Sharron Davies, isn't it?Sorry, I called her Davies. She feels very strongly about this because she was cheated out of a gold medal her entire career because of women on testosterone, these German athletes who were doped up.So she feels very strongly about fair play for women in sports.And it's very hard to portray Sharron as being a conservative bigot, for want of a better word, or for being right wing.And I think it's incremental.This was always going to be death by 1,000 cuts, because gender ideology had got so big.And it had got captured into every area of society. We said earlier, we've seen it in education.We've seen it very chillingly, as I know and Harry Miller saw and various other people have experienced.We've seen it embedded into the police service.[53:45] We've seen it embedded into every element of society.[53:52] So as a telegraph sort of op-ed made clear, it was either we kind of go along with this and we say, you know, people like Caroline, people like Posie are, you know, outrageous bigots, or actually, you know, we push back, you know, it didn't even say we pushed back, but we had a choice to be made.And I think, finally, we deviated off down the path of madness.And slowly, I think we're coming back. And I think the pendulum is swinging.And I don't, there's always a danger, isn't it? The pendulum goes.I think what we had was, we had the laws of 1957, when homosexuality was criminalized.And we've swung all the way from there, where being gay would get you locked up, and again,[54:48] that was low-hanging fruit. It was much easier for the police to arrest somebody who was cottaging in the public loo. Now, that is an offence to public decency, but it's much easier to get someone doing that than the serious criminals, whereas these days it's much easier to get someone saying the wrong thing online. So we've gone from a position where people were unjustly repressed. For someone who's often called a homophobe, I feel very strongly about the decriminalisation of homosexuality. I believe that it's a private act of morality and what you do in your bedroom, as long as it's, you know, the usual caveats with consenting adult, and doesn't involve children or animals, that's your affair.What you want to get up to in your bedroom is your affair. And as a tolerant liberal, I have no interest in telling people what they should be doing in their bedrooms.Even as an Orthodox Christian, I don't have care of souls. It's not for me to bring people to Jesus by telling them what they should do in bed.So I feel very strongly that homosexuality shouldn't be criminalized.But we've gone from a position where, because we had a section of society who were unjustly repressed, the pendulum has swung all the way over there,[56:16] to the other side. And people have sort of reacted so strongly to the oppression.It's the same with critical race theory as well, in that we've still been acting in 2022, like we're a deeply homophobic or a deeply racist society.And we're not. I think there has been,[56:36] I would say, at least for the last 20, 30 years, there has been a lot more tolerance.And rightly so, people shouldn't be persecuted.But there's still this feeling, oh, there's this terrible persecution.So we have to flood children with all kinds of propaganda and tell them how to wash after sex.And it's kind of been part and parcel of sexual liberalism as a movement, sexual progressivism, sexual libertinism. So we've gone from repression to libertinism and I think we need to sort of[57:12] move somewhere back near to the middle. And you know, I said this on my Twitter feed and I mean it, I think it's been really hard for, there have been very many sensible lesbians and gays out there that have been calling out their own community and that's been, that's courageous really actually to say, hang on a minute, I didn't sign up for this. I didn't sign up for people claiming to be a different sex. I didn't sign up for the grooming of children. You know, this doesn't help. This isn't, you know, this kind of drag queens into primary schools perpetuates every single negative stereotype that they've been trying to counter for years and years. So I'm hoping that it will, I think we're beginning to see a correction, but nobody can sit on their laurels, you know, and certainly as New Zealand shows, there are still countries,[58:11] New Zealand, Australia, America and parts of America still deeply enthralled to this nonsense and we need to really have a think about, you know, we need this independent investigation into sex ed in schools. So, yeah.
 
Well, let's see if a so-called Conservative government actually get around to doing that, but there's a whole other discussion. Caroline, as always, thank you so much for joining us and giving us your thoughts on those stories.
 
Oh, always a pleasure. Thanks so much for having me, Peter.
 
Not at all, and I encourage our viewers and listeners to go and make use of citizengo.org and do look at those petitions, do sign them and do pass them on to your friends and encourage them to do the same.And I think on that, I wish everyone watching a wonderful rest of your Saturday. Have a great Sunday.And we'll be with you on Monday evening for a special that something that we've been working on for the last two years behind the scenes.And I'm so excited that we can finally discuss it.[59:15] And that is tune in Monday 8 p.m. And we'll talk about it then.So look forward to seeing you then 8pm UK or 3pm Eastern or noontime if you're over in the Pacific on the West Coast. So we'll see you on Monday. Thank you so much and good night to you all.