Hearts of Oak Podcast

Rachael & Diny - Vaccine Control Group: Collecting Essential Data on the Unvaccinated

We are delighted to welcome two wonderful ladies to Hearts of Oak. We have followed the great work of the Vaccine Control Group from the beginning of the Covid chaos, so the founders Rachael and Diny join us to discuss the journey and growth of this assemblage that seeks to show and oppose the lies of the mRNA experimental gene therapy injection. The people originally allocated by the pharmaceutical companies to be part of a control group for the SARS-CoV-2 vaccines, have almost all been vaccinated now meaning that the official, long term control group for the Covid vaccine research no longer exists.In to this gap stepped Rachael and Diny who had a vision to collect the long-term health data of the vax-free from every country, to provide the missing control group to the SARS-CoV-2 vaccinated; thus enabling independent and transparent, comparative analysis of the mass vaccination policy.It has grown exponentially all across the world as it meets and addresses a need, not only does it record the data for the unvaccinated, it also acts as a declaration of your 'pureblood' status and participation in the control group. This is a call to action for every SARS-CoV-2 vaccine-free individual in the world to join together in the most important study of our time – this is your opportunity to do something incredibly important for the future of your children by standing up to be a valuable and active participant of the world’s largest and truly independent control group.Link to Robert Verkerk PhD study discussed during the episode...- Self-Selected COVID-19 “Unvaccinated” Cohort Reports Favorable Health Outcomes and Unjustified Discrimination in Global Survey: https://ijvtpr.com/index.php/IJVTPR/article/view/43“The Vaccine Control Group is a worldwide, independent, long-term study that is seeking to provide a baseline of data from unvaccinated individuals for comparative analysis with the vaccinated population, to evaluate the success of the Covid-19 mass vaccination program and assist future research projects. This study is not, and will never be, associated with any pharmaceutical enterprise as its impartiality is of paramount importance.”Get involved today at the following links...- Website: www.vaxcontrolgroup.com- Pre-registration page for new Covid injected participants to join: https://members.vaxcontrolgroup.com/preregister- Community: https://www.vcgwiki.com/index.php/community- Telegram: https://t.me/joinchat/vYOoXyzT-VY1MDc0- Twitter: https://twitter.com/VaxControlGroup?s=20&t=wNQcGsiNz2SvbaQkEX4OLg- Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/groups/493614538559474- GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/CGCoopInterview recorded 6.2.23
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[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak. Interview just coming up, looking at the vaccine control group and I had the delight of bumping into Rachael and also Diny at the event in Derby, the comedy podcast event.They were there with a table, a vaccine group table. And it's something I came across way at the beginning as I was trying to work out how you get past these mandates and also looking at what data was being collected on on vaxed. I came across this group, fascinating group. So I had a really great interview with both Rachael and Diny talking about what the group is, why it's needed, about the mandates being dropped and whether the group is still needed, how it can be used as a[1:09] control group for whatever is coming next. So it's not just a one-off, it can be used for other things, how you can support them with a £6 a quarter to get those cards, which you need to get. And, by that £6 a quarter you help fund what they are doing. Talk about how they're now all over the world, about the telegram groups, how people can share information, their Zoom calls you can be part of.So much to talk about and great to catch up with them on this essential venture they have started, from nothing. So I know you love hearing from Rachel and Diny.
 
So thank you for joining us, Hearts of Oak. And it is wonderful to have two people, an organization that I have wanted for months and that is Rachael and Diny from the Vaccine Control Group. Thank you both of you you for joining us today.[2:02] You're welcome. Thank you for having us. Great to have you and I bumped into you both in Derby and[2:09] great to see you're stalled and I've followed what you've done as of many tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands. We'll get into all of that but the details are there, the website is there and we'll put some of the Telegram links as well in the description, Vaxcontrolgroup.com. If I can maybe first ask how you both came to the point of launching, this initiative, this project, which is something that none of us thought we would ever need, but maybe separately how you came to be at the point of overseeing such a mammoth task?[2:48] (Diny) I'll start off. It was basically a meme that people who weren't vaccinated were saying, I'm in the control group because we obviously knew that there wasn't a control group for those people who'd been vaccinated because the control group had been vaccinated. And because I'd been part of starting a local freedom cooperative in Eastbourne and we're trying to get ways to do things in lockdown, try to find what we could do to try and fix things. And we realised with this meme that there actually wasn't a control group. And because my husband's a database developer and very experienced with data, we sort of talked and said, well, actually, we could do this as a group.We could actually set up our own control group, but there are only a small amount of us, about 70, and it wouldn't have really worked. We realised we needed it on a global scale. So we said, well, why don't we just create a database for the world and get everyone in a control group who's not vaccinated, as you do.So we just got about writing one, creating it, and in a spare room in our spare time.[3:56] Put some of our savings into it, and just sort of got started.And we were just writing the questions when we met Rachael.
(Rachael) Yep.So I'm Rachael. I was working as an A&E nurse for, well, when all of it kicked off really in March 2020.So yeah, it's a pretty crazy story in itself really.I come to the realization that what we were being told wasn't all the truth.And I ended up leaving my job and I didn't really know where to turn.If I was the only one that felt like I did. And I came across somehow the Stand in the Park groups.So that's when I found Diny.So she was in my local Stand in the Park group. And I heard about this control group idea and just really couldn't wait to be involved, really.So that's when I came and came and sat down and helped them with the questions to get going.So I went from there really.[4:52] Rach, because we've had NHS 100, we've had Alan from Together Declaration, we've had lots of groups, but some people were impacted more than others.And I guess, Rachael, you were one of those people who was really impacted because this was mandatory for you in your employment.
(R) Well, I'd already left by then actually, Peter, but it was a massive impact on me. I'd say my whole world flipped upside down. So in the beginning, I was completely terrified along with my colleagues about what we were going to see and what was to come. I went through the whole thing of not having PPE. I was fighting to wear a mask at work at one point. We were debating whether to move out and protect our kids, all that crazy stuff. And it wasn't until I actually left work for a few weeks and started reflecting on what was going on and my mum started asking me a few questions and it was her health as well that I started looking into natural ways of helping her that made me realise that everything I was taught wasn't the truth and made me[5:54] question everything really and that's when I decided then that I couldn't go back. So I actually handed my notice in early 2021 before the vaccine rollout came.[6:04] Wow. Wow. Can maybe let me ask you to explain there may be some of our viewers and listeners, I don't know where they've been if they don't know what the vaccine control group is, but they may have missed it. So for those of our viewers and listeners who have missed it, can you explain what exactly it is?[6:25] (D) Can I start? it's in two parts really. So at the heart of it, we are collecting the data of those people who've chosen not to take the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, to look at their long-term health outcomes. It's a multi-generational study because this is a multi-generational problem.[6:43] The people who've been vaccinated now who go on to have children and their children, we don't know what this is going to do to them. So we are studying the health outcomes and that is the really, really important long-term aspect of what we're doing. It's behind everything. It's health sovereignty really. It's you being able to know what's going to happen and having the choice.I won't say about what the next stage is, but I'll let you talk about the other aspect of the community.
(R) So we realised quite quickly actually when people started joining, because originally we didn't even market it or really share it that much, it just spread by word of mouth and people just started joining from everywhere really. It's incredible.And by the time we knew it, we had different groups of people in different countries.And so that's when we started up our Telegram groups. We thought we needed somewhere that people could come and chat and ask us questions as well. Because in the beginning, we were really, really asked a lot of questions, you know, who are you that are taking our data? We were really mistrusted in the beginning. They thought we were a government scheme.
 
(D) We're not.[7:47] Could have been part of the Nudge Unit number 10 or something. Who knows?[7:51] (R) People still get, we still get that though, from people that haven't heard about us. And that's fair enough, you know, we're happy people are questioning everything. But back to the telegram, so we started off with a few telegram groups and they just grew and grew and we realized we needed different language groups, different speciality groups, we needed like parents, university students, NHS workers at one point, that was you know a really cool group at one point and so we just expanded from there and we wanted to give back to those people that are constantly giving, us their data every month because what they're doing is really, really invaluable for everybody for the future. We wanted to give them support back and then we started to set up Zooms as well so that they originally started as Q&A Zooms so that we could just answer to everybody who we were and what we were doing and why and just so they could get a feel for us and meet us and ask us any questions. And they turned into a sharing and caring Zoom. That's what we call them now. So people from all over the world join. We've got a bunch of regular people who we've really made friends with over the years and they tell us what's happening in their own countries. We hear what's going on on the ground and we've formed a really good friendship group from that and we support people that are lonely.And yes, but just growing really lovely community really. So that's the second part. Yeah and...[9:12] No, no, go for it.
 
(D) The third part, which is, it's kind of turned into a monster of itself, is the cards. So our, idea initially when we very first started this was that we knew that people who haven't been vaccinated traditionally keep that quiet, but this was something much bigger than that. This was, you know, for the COVID vaccine, we felt that everyone should stand up and say, look, I haven't been vaccinated against it. I've got good reasons. Whatever those reasons are, they're my reasons, they're good reasons. We need to stand up, be proud of that because it's our choice and show other people that they don't need to hide as well. So we came up with the idea of these cards, which are sort of, you know, it's to be visible. That's the main reason. But the other reason was that we know, both being moms, we've each got three children, that kids can be coerced into vaccinations in schools, especially with things like the HPV. And in fact, my daughter didn't have it. And, you know, we had very sort of strict words about, you know, when they try and talk you into it, you know. So we decided that we needed to help them in some way. And that was to put on the card.[10:20] 'Must not be vaccinated'. And the idea is that this can act as a shield. So if someone's trying to coerce you, it was mainly for the children, but obviously any adult can use it too. They can say, look, you know, I've got this, I can't be vaccinated for this, I, you know, I'm not supposed to have it.No one's going to go against that. You know, it just gives them that extra bit of security.Adults have been using it too, though. It's been absolutely amazing. People have used it in all sorts of situations, but also they've used it in situations where the vaccine's been mandatory.So health workers have used it to keep their jobs in all sorts of countries, not just the UK, but countries like Australia, which is crazy. People have used to get into hospitals to see, their loved ones when they haven't been allowed into hospital. People have used it to get into other countries where vaccines are mandated. Even now, people are still using it to get into, the United States. It isn't an exemption of any sort. It is simply a card that helps you be visible in your right to not take this particular vaccine. But it just gives you confidence and power in your own rights, that's, you know, that's, it's not accepted by governments at all.[11:30] Or anyone. It's not, you know, we were very careful to make sure it didn't try and look like any kind of vaccine pass because we didn't want it to be a fake pass. You know, people said, or you're making a fake pass. No, it's not trying to be, it's not looking like one. It is simply what it is. And that's a card of membership for our cooperative that says you are unvaccinated, but also it's a little shield that you can use to say, look, this is, you know, don't come near me me with that needle.[11:56] One of the things I love about it is, and I pick up on some of those individual things, but thatmany people complain. People are good at sitting around and being frustrated and venting that frustration with friends and family and it's kind of round that table in the pub and going there for an hour and unloading everything that's happening.But there are very few people who actually think, well, this is a problem, but maybe we can do something about it.You're obviously individuals who've decided this is the problem, we could bitch and moan about it, but actually we could try and find a solution.It probably would have been easier just to sit and moan about it.What kind of spurred you into, we need to come up with something that fixes the issue that lies in front of us?[12:45] (R) That's an easy one and I think lots of people relate, but it's our children.Diny said we've got three children each and we saw their future being destroyed and them, not being allowed access to what they would want to do in the future, being unvaccinated, you know, not being able to travel, not being able to do the college courses they wanted potentially.So we felt really strongly that we need to do something in order to fix their future.So yeah,
 
(D) we weren't having it. We were just like, no, we're not having it. This is our kid's future and everyone else's kids, they're not going to screw it up for them. So we decided to fix it or try.
None of us have ever expected to be in this situation. So you try solutions and there's some work, some don't. But I remember talking to a friend and he had written, he had got a solicitor to write a letter to the school telling them what would happen and he would go for every single teacher who is involved in forcing that. He maybe had the finances to do that. But what you're provided is a way that everyone can do it. They don't need to have access to legal, which is costly, but simply by getting this, it is a way.
And I'd encourage and tell us about this, how people can actually give it, it's free.[13:59] But I would encourage everyone to actually sign up and it's what, 5, 10 pounds, a quarter ?Tell us about that because everything costs money to happen.And I, as not part of the scheme, can encourage all our viewers and listeners to make sure and pay for it because nothing comes for free. Tell us about that side.[14:19] (R) Do you want to say that, ?
(D) Yeah, okay. So when you join the vaccine control group.[14:26] The vaccinecontrolgroup.com, you don't have to pay at all to start with. Anyone can join for free, put in your data. I mean, you know, we're asking for your data. So it's a bit weird that you would actually have to pay for it. That is an unusual concept to have to pay to be in a study. So, everyone can be free if they want to be in the majority of people are, they don't pay to to participate. However, we are a cooperative, and we've got a cooperative model in that those people who want to fund us who want to help keep this going for, you know, we're expecting 30 years. And it does cost a lot. It's, we've got a team now, it's not cheap to do. Our idea for a funding model was that they would become members at it's £24 a year, that's £6 a quarter.So that's less than a cup of coffee taken out once a month. Our aim is to keep it as accessible as possible.We just need to keep this going. We're not looking to make loads of money out of it.We simply need to keep the thing going. That's all it's about.So yeah, it's six pounds a quarter.People can cancel any time they want. Those people who become associates of the control group, they get sent the plastic printed card.Everyone who is a free participant gets a digital version of it, which does exactly the same thing.So the benefit is that you are simply helping to fund this really, really important study going onwards.
(R) And allow it to remain independent.
(D) Well, yeah, that is the main important thing about it. Yeah.[15:53] That we're completely independent, because if we were to ask for funding from anyone else, and people have said, well, why don't you go to universities, ask for the funding?We have heard all the stories about who funds them. We don't want that.So we're not getting funding from anywhere other than our participants.And that's, you know, we're really, reallystrict on that.
 
If it came out that Pfizer were sponsoring that wouldn't be very good.[16:17] (D) That'd be awkward.
 
(R) Definitely not.[16:21] Tell us about the cards when people sign up and they pay the £6 a quarter, they get the cards.That must and probably remains a mammoth endeavour to get those cards out. I remember sitting and looking at the telegram groups and some people saying, I got my card in a week and others saying I'm in Australia and I'm so waiting on mine.
 
That's a huge process to get those out worldwide.
 
(R) Yeah it's taken us a long time to learn all this. Obviously we started off with no knowledge whatsoever of what we were doing and we bought our first few card machines and we got the printing right and everything but yeah we ended up getting a franking machine for the postage a couple of months in just because we were the post offices were literally saying no we're we're not doing it anymore because we would turn up with so much post and they just refused to do it and we were we were spreading it around different towns and different post offices just so that we could get them sent but we ended up having to do that ourselves so yeah it's been a massive learning curve and then we've had you know people get in touch saying I want a card in my language I want it in my language so we always went back to them and said well if you can provide a translation for us then we'll be happy to create that so we've now got.[17:29] I can't remember how many now 15 or 16 yeah something like that and we're building them still. So, so yeah, that was that was fun learning how but we had our kids working with us in the beginning, we had six card printers in one room at one point when we moved out of Diny's spare room, got a little office room and we had all the teenagers printing them for us and posting them.
(D) So they loved it. They really enjoyed it. We paying them a little bit for it. And they thought it was absolutely wonderful.[17:56] Yeah, wasn't it because when you start something you want success, but you don't know what success will look like. And then when something does pick up, you think, it was easier before.What was that when it started to really take off? And you said you didn't publicize it, but it was just spread because everyone was trying to find a solution to this.And suddenly you get the orders in.[18:18] What was that like? As you said, wow, this this is really impacting a lot of people.[18:24] (R) Yeah, it was it was the success stories that really did it for us.And I remember just reading some of them in the beginning. I was managing the telegram groups in the beginning.We've got a lovely lady doing that for us now. But yeah, we actually created a telegram group specifically for those stories.And they're just amazing. You know, just heartfelt stories of people that could go and visit their dying relative when they weren't allowed before.And that, you know, every time we heard one of those, it just kept you going.
(D) Yeah, but we could actually make a difference to people's lives in other countries.It's just, it's mental.
(R) Yeah, we didn't expect that.
And did you expect other initiatives to happen in other countries because in theory you'd set up something and think well we'll provide for the UK and people who need it and then suddenly requests come from all over.I assume you were not expecting a worldwide demand.[19:17] (D) We wanted it because we realized that the only way that we could actually show what was definitely happening to those people who haven't taken the vaccine was to show it all over the world in, different geographical locations, in different socioeconomic locations. And if that same thing, that same outcome was happening in Alaska, in France, in Italy, in Africa, then you've got a trend because one of the limitations with the study is that it is anecdotal, it's self-reported. And we know that.So we've talked to an awful lot of people. We've had amazing people giving us brilliant advice, people with doctorates and health professionals.And we were told that we need to get quantities of data, ideally over a million people, so that we've got large amounts in all those different areas that show that there's a trend of, we're either all doing really well or we're all dropping dead.Either way, we've got to show a trend and we need people to do that.[20:11] Tell us how the control group, because I think people initially come into this thinking, I want to kind of pass out of jail.I want a card out of jail. I don't want to get out of this.And then you realize actually there's much more to it than simply having that card behind that, which in effect is the purpose of the group, is a vaccine control group where people, enter their information each month.About that kind of the information people give and then the I guess the difficulty of actually keeping that data, bringing it together and then having it so you can use it to report later on.[20:51] (R) Yeah, so I'll explain a little bit about what we ask. So first of all, we ask for baseline health conditions, for example.So when somebody signs up, it's, you know, what medical conditions might you already suffer with so that we can see kind of what their baseline health is.And then every month we ask them a short questionnaire. And when we first put that in, it's all being re-changed now.Now so we'll explain about what it's changing too but we ask have they had COVID, the severity of the illness, were they hospitalized, what medications they take, what supplements they take, if they test, if they wear masks, for how long, any discrimination. We ask people to report if they've been discriminated or you know sacked from their employment for example because of their vaccine status. Have I missed anything?[21:39] (D) Just trying to think, no.
 
(R) It's hard because we're just redoing everything so that's like old stuff to remember. But that's kind of what we asked for in the beginning and we have had some people have a look at the data so far. So early on we had Dr Rob Verkirk of ANH, he came in and had a look at the data and he actually wrote a paper that got published. When was that published?[22:03] (D) Oh goodness me. Anyway, it was published. It was published. It's on our website.
We will put the link in the description. It's a good thing about doing pre-record. We will put that link in the description. So, send it to me and it will be there.
(R) Thank you. So, basically, he came and had a look at all the data and compiled it into a paper and he uploaded it to ResearchGate, which is like an open...Oh, can't even... ...Episodes? No, I've forgotten what the word's called now.[22:36] (D) Preprint?
 
(R) yeah that's it, a pre-print server and they're quite easy to upload on a pre-print server really because it's not you know a journal or a peer-reviewed journal for example, but it actually got taken down which we weren't expecting so they literally removed it and I can't even remember the reason.
 
(D) I think it was the Daily Mail put an article about it and that, kicked off, it was literally as soon as the article came out that it then came out again so
 
(R) Yeah, but the paper showed basically that the unvaccinated were doing quite well. So we had, quite low rates of hospitalization if people were suffering with COVID. It showed that all over the world people are really taking care of their health. So I think it was something like 70% were taking vitamins and supplements regularly to try and keep well. We also found out that, quite a high percentage of our database have had vaccinations in the past. So that really kind of screwed up their
 
 
 
(D) anti-vaxxer thing, not the anti-vaxxers they're looking for.
[23:42] I find actually that the government have made me, anti-vaxxer is the one who turned that up because I had no issue all the way up to now and it's only at this point that the government need to look at themselves for why there is any pushback because it's their fault.So thank you Matt Hancock for making me now be suspicious of anything coming from the Department of Health. I guess that's the same for you and I guess that's a story you're finding throughout.
(D) Yeah, we did actually ask, would you be willing to take vaccines in the future?I forget exactly what specific ones we asked about, but there was quite a high proportion.I think it's like 50% of people said they'd be much more cautious and probably say no to any kind of vaccine in the future.
 
(R) Even travel vaccines and such.
(D) Yeah, so they've actually made anti-vaxxers through this.
Tell us what has been the journey for you two in connections, in meeting people, and because this has, I guess, spawned a whole new community, a whole new group of connections and friendships and networks that didn't really exist. And I find sitting interviewing people and I thought, I wouldn't even have given that person the time of day, but now we find that there's something that unites us and you focus on that.So what has it been like for the two of you?[25:09] (D) Been crazy actually. I mean, at the very beginning of this journey, we had an awful lot of, who the hell are you? What are you doing? You know, you blue-haired freak have had quite a lot of scammers and grifters and oh my goodness. Yeah, which is, I mean, one of the reasons why we are on every single Zoom call so that people can ask us questions. And the first load, there were people[25:30] asking us questions. But we did have a lot of doctors talking to us secretly, which was quite funny. So doctors and scientists, they talked to us, but we weren't allowed to tell anyone they were talking to us. And so we came home to say to people, look, you know, there are lots of doctors that actually like what we're doing, support what we're doing, but we can't tell you who they are, and they're not going to say anything about it. And so we've had this really weird relationship with people. And, you know, obviously, we've had our participants, and they've been absolutely wonderful and incredibly supportive. But I think it's this last sort of six months, all of a sudden, people have realized that we're not grifters, scammers, we are truly actually doing this.I think there was also the worry that we were going to fail, that we were just a couple of idiot mums who were having a go at something we know nothing about, which we didn't. But we have learned so, so much. It's incredible because we have spent hours talking to doctors, scientists, researchers. We are learning everything we possibly can to make sure we do this incredibly well.
And suddenly people have realised that and realised that we are serious. We're not just faffing around doing something for our kids, we're going to fix this for our kids and we're going to do it the best way we know how. And so people suddenly, I don't know.[26:44] If they respect what, I think they respect what we're doing, maybe not us, but they respect what we're doing now and they understand that we are doing this properly. So from the medical perspective, we've been to a lot of events now and people have welcomed us and they're, talking to us and they're actually outwardly saying that they're supporting us now as well, which is lovely, which gives our participants a lot more faith in what we're doing too. So, It's been interesting.[27:09] Scary, because this is, I mean, I'm a science fiction writer, you know. I'm not used to dealing with PhD scientists. You know, it's, yeah, Rachael's a lot more medical and it's easier for you.
(R) But we haven't let any of it change us, have we? And that, you know, it's just brilliant.We're just us and we're just who we are. And I think that's why people relate to us as, well, because we're not trying to be anything we're not. We always say we come from nothing really and we're just a couple of mums but we've managed to do what we've done.
(D) And we admit when we don't know what we're doing but we always go and find out from someone who does know what they're doing. We get advice.
 
(R) Or we learn or we do live blood analysis courses.[27:51] So we know what's going on.
 
Well yeah you could write a whole science fiction novel in the last three years but that's a good material anyway for that next one.
 
(R) I think she wrote it before this.
(D) Well, I kind of wrote what I wrote was actually leading up to the world turning into this. So yeah.[28:12] Tell us about the data because I had actually, yeah, our next interview, actually just before this is Amy Kelly from Daily, DailyClout. And they've obviously published, that massive publication with 50 case studies of all different areas. And you look to that and you realize that what the data you're collecting isn't available. No one has certainly known in the echelons of society, known in the medical profession, known in the tech companies have thought of pulling together this data. And there are only a few countries actually that have, I mean, UK and Israel, seemingly that data is thrown up all the time, because other countries aren't collecting it. So what you're doing will be absolutely essential with that data.So tell us more about that because that is going to be extremely important going forward.[29:09] (D) Yeah, it's absolutely essential. And that's why after having our data analysed, initially, we realized there were lots of gaps, lots of things we could have asked better because we didn't know, you know, we did the best we could. But actually, you know, a year and a half down the line, we know[29:26] where this is going, the landscapes change too. So we're in the middle of and almost about to, relaunch a much more extensive questionnaire with much, much deeper questions.
(R) Yeah, when we started we had no idea what kind of adverse events we were even going to see at all. We could guess, but we didn't have a clue when we wrote our questions. So we've really dug down into what we need to look at now and we're going to have a massive section on pregnancy and fertility going forwards as well as heart issues. We came from, I think, the top headings of medical conditions such as heart, blood, lung conditions and now we've we've dug right down, we've got over a thousand different conditions people can select going, forward so we'll really be able to look at the data more clearly.And part of the relaunch going forward, the database developer is building some kind of warehouse that people can, data analysts can basically plug into.So we really want the data to be more available to everybody and we've only managed to get one paper written so far going backwards just because we're a small team and it's a lot of work. And we want to be able to push out data way more easily and readily. And another aspect of it is there's never, you know, there's never the data, the raw data.[30:42] So, you know, when you read something or look at a publication, for example, you can never really dig down to the raw data that they were looking at when they were analysing.And we want to make it as available as possible. So analysts in the future will be able to just plug in, we'll obviously make sure that they're trusted and they're doing it for good reason and they'll be able to plug in and analyse and put out way more publications going forward and they'll be able to spot trends in the data, look at certain aspects of the data.[31:12] Which is what's happening to pregnant women, for example. And I forgot to mention one of the most important things. And the most?We're not, well, yeah, it's all anonymized, definitely. But we're inviting those that have taken COVID vaccines in.So when we relaunch, we're officially inviting those that have had any number of any different COVID vaccine into the study so that we've got our own comparative cohort.And so again, we can support them that have been injured or regretful and you know, realized they've been lied to. So that's the huge change that, we're going to now.
(D) And even possibly the people that are happy to continue them, we're hoping that they'll want to say, well, prove me wrong and also provide their data.[31:56] I think that's essential people who have taken it because if, I mean, one of the demos was at, 10 days ago was for the vaccine injured and there were eight different people speaking about the devastating effect it has had on their health and their family and their lives.[32:12] One, that story is not really told. But two, it's vital that they can begin to put in their information to this because you will at least be willing to listen to them and allow them to put in that raw data and assess it where no one else is giving them the time of day. So I think it's, really quite essential and important as you're growing to add that facility on.[32:36] (R) Yeah, and as well as that important data, the community needs to expand and grow as well.And we've had vaccine injured people come and join our sharing and caring zooms with our regular participants. And it's just been absolutely amazing seeing how the understanding is growing and they're listening to each other. and we just want to bring people back together again and unite people.[32:58] Yeah it is.
 
So the best way, I want to touch on where we're going with it, but the best way for people to follow you on the website will have links to the Telegram groups and people can join those Zoom sessions can they?
 
(R) Yes they're open to absolutely everyone. On the community part of the website there's a menu on the left that says Zooms. Anyone can come and chat to us, we do them twice a week, we're always there.Yeah, different time zones.Yeah, different times a day. Yeah. And we also do community events as well. So we invite people on with, normally, it's normally to do with health and wellbeing, but it can be any interesting topic really, so that we can learn from people and they're open to everybody as well. So you can sign up to come along to one of those and ask the speaker questions.[33:48] Okay. Can I ask, looking forward, because people, I actually did think at one point, well, maybe it's all going to go away and we'll all be left alone. I don't think that will ever happen. So tell us what, because you put this together because you were faced with an issue, we were all faced with an issue. We're now told that's gone away. So you can now, certainly regarding travel and movement and possibly employment that's beginning to change. Where, does that leave you and what you're doing with the vaccine group?[34:27] (D) Still really important because people have been vaccinated and we don't know without studying what the outcomes are going to be for those people and their children long term. So that.[34:39] You know, you can't take the vaccine out of people, at least not that we know of yet.So that's going to be there for generations to come. So that hasn't gone away.And actually in the UK, things seem quite easy. In other countries, it really hasn't gone away.It's, you speak to people and it's still quite horrendous. And with what we're doing, the way we've designed it is that, yes, we're studying the COVID vaccine or the effects at the moment, but you don't know what else is going to come along.And actually, because we are a control group, we could effectively be a control group for anything that comes along.So while people are entering all of their health data, if suddenly people start to take the M-Pox vaccine, for example, well, if we've got loads of people who have and loads of people who haven't, and we've got people who are willing to study our information, our data, our anonymized data, fully anonymized.[35:29] Then there's nothing to stop us being a control group for everything else that they might want to throw at us, for the next big pandemic that Bill Gates has promised us.
It's round the corner, being dropped on us from a balloon somewhere near you.
(D)Yeah. You know, you just don't know what's going to happen.
(R) and we're pretty flexible. You know, we've been flexible since the beginning.We literally change our plans every week, depending on what we hear on our Zooms, whatever the landscape is, whatever people need. You know, we really think about that and take that, into consideration. And that's one of the main things that we get from the Zooms as well as, you know, making friends and supporting people. It's what do people need?Yeah. And we go with it, don't we? Yeah.
 
(D) And also all of the systems, the database, it's not an off the shelf system. It's been written from scratch, every bit of it. So we've got, we started off with just my husband writing everything day and night.[36:22] He's still doing it, but we've got a small team around him also doing that now. And so because it's, it's everything is designed specifically for this and for what we're doing and for what we want to do going forward.We can adjust it and alter it to be whatever it needs to be going on, just so that we can show what we need to show.That's the truth.
And I think therefore it's essential that there may be people watching who have been part of it, who have paid that six pounds a quarter, which everyone should be doing if they're part of it, and they may be thinking, you know, it's probably run its course and maybe I should just cancel.But certainly from my point of view, my viewpoint, it's essential.As you said, it's in effect, it's a blank slate that can be used for whatever is coming.And that means that it is vital for people to continue to support it by inputting data, but also with that financial support.[37:20] (D) Yes, yeah, absolutely. I mean, we understand it's hard times for everyone, which is why we've made it as cheap as possible.And also, you know, there's the free option and most people do go for that.We don't feel that we're asking too much by hoping that some people will feel that it's worth paying for because this could show, that the unvaccinated are doing brilliantly or it could show that actually we're all dying.But if that's the case, we want to know, we need to know whichever way it goes and we will show whichever way it goes.We need to know that information for us and for our kids. If it looks like the children who have been vaccinated they're not able to have children. They need to know that but they're not going to know that until those children have grown up another 10 years or 15 or however long it takes, you know, to find that out if this study stops.[38:10] You know, because we can't afford to fund it, then you're not going to find that information out, because no one else is doing it.
 
And to repeat how important it is, I only learned with my, interview with Amy Kelly that one of the studies they did was that Pfizer had started a control group for those who weren't Vax, so placebo group, and those who were getting the Vax.And that was going to run for, I think, two to three years.Then after four months, they just jabbed everyone. It defeats the whole.And when you hear stories like that, you realize that everything we thought was true about how these companies operate, actually threw that in the bin and it's purely about a rush to market.And therefore the data you have is essential because it's possibly unique and these companies don't have it.[39:03] (R) Yeah, exactly. And one thing we've learned just from doing this, which I didn't have a clue before, being a nurse even, that a lot of the studies that they do aren't even given a placebo anyway. They're giving a different treatment.They don't give them saline. They give them a different vaccine, for example.So there's never really a true control group. So what we're doing is unique.And we're completely independent. We're not biased at all. We're not funded by anyone.So this is the future for science. That's how we see it.It's a future where people can fund a truly independent thing, put their data in, and then we can find out what's going on in regard to anything, any treatment.[39:42] (D) And the users have a vested interest in it because they're part of it.They're the ones who are funding it. And because we're a cooperative, those who are associates, they're the people that we listen to for what we need to do.They're the ones who steer us.[39:57] Have you been surprised at the lack of vocal support for those who have chosen not to have this?Because I mean, for me politically, kind of on the right, I've been quite shocked at the, voices have only been on, well, people should kind of have freedoms, but really we need to jab them anyway.And all those freedoms you kind of think on the right, actually that collapsed.And as I found politically on the left you had a lot of calls for restrictions, for freedoms for individuals that traditionally, so the whole thing has got messed up and mixed up which has been great fun to watch.But for you, have you been surprised and expected, I guess, high profile figures to have stood up and spoken out and they've just remained silent?[40:49] (D)Yeah, I think we've been disappointed.
 
(R) Yeah, and we've actually spoken to some people and Diny's quite strict with them sometimes, you know, high profile people with big influences and she's like, you know, you know the truth, you know the right thing to do, now get out there and say it and you're quite good at doing it.
(D) I get quite arsey with them.
 
(R) Yeah, a bit disappointed with the lack, yeah, definitely
(D) But I can understand it as well because people are genuinely terrified.People are actually frightened that people who haven't taken the vaccine are going to infect them and kill them. They genuinely believe that because the media has done such[41:24] A good Psi-op on them. They genuinely are frightened for their lives. And so they see people like us as, well, I don't know what they see it as, but you know, we are potential killers for them, which is it's just bizarre. I meanI vaccinated my children up to a point and then I started to realize what was going on. And so[41:45] I stopped vaccinating them. They've had a couple of the MMR separately, but not all of them. So I've been awake to this for quite a while. And I know that you've got to keep quiet about it. You don't say to people, my kid hasn't had the HPV and they haven't had all the MMRs. You just don't say that because people automatically have been trained to be frightened of you. So I wasn't surprised of the reaction, but I'm angry at a lot of the high profile celebrities who have woken up and just don't want to lose their income through this. Because people like us, we've all given up, everything we were doing. Yes, we're actually working full time for this now. So we do take an income from it, just to be clear on that. We didn't initially because we were volunteers and everyone was volunteering, but you know this is full time, we have to live. But you know, initially we'd all had to step away from careers like everyone else had because we just couldn't carry on working because of, well Rachael chose to leave it. I lost most of my work because of everything and loads of people have lost so much through all of this.
(R) And that comes back to that and that's you know about thousands of people all around the world standing up and being part of a group and being proud of the fact that they're unvaccinated.
(D) And being honest about the fact that they're not being vaccinated.[43:12] Because I always give people a benefit of the doubt and now I'm just pissed off at people because we've all got something to lose. We're all in difficult situations. Most of us don't have a big pile of money that we can fall back on.We do live extremely tightly. And for people to say, yeah, but you know, they're a movie star or star, they would lose a contract.Well, what about us in our small flats, whatever, living that are struggling day to day with the kids, school runs and all that? We have something to lose as well.I think our media and society make it that if you're famous you've got a lot to lose but if you're the little guy you've got nothing to lose but often it can be the other way round.[43:56] (D) Yeah, absolutely and a lot of the celebrities have also taken, well we've been told that they've had the fake passports which also doesn't help the situation.Situation. Yes, I can understand that you don't want to give up this thing that you've worked incredibly hard for. But at the end of the day, this isn't like anything that's ever happened before.
(R) And it's not only what you're going to lose now, it's looking to the future. If they realise what we're heading into, none of us can have anything.
(D) Yeah, and they don't want to look into the future. People just don't want to see, you know, this is this is now it's going to go away.It's fine.I can understand it. I don't like it, but I can understand it.
Closing your eyes doesn't make you away. Can we finish just last point looking, you talked about having children, I've got two kids as well, two boys. And it's interesting conversations that as a parent you have with children, especially trying to protect them from the indoctrination, they have around what's happened the last three years.[44:59] But I think by getting the card, it's a great conversation topic with your children and then you talk to them about why this is needed and make sure they're prepared because my, worry, many parents worry, is that the parent tells the school it does not want this, but, the school thinks it knows best.And hey, the parent will thank them anyway so they just do whatever to the child.And that's why I think it's vital to train your children, to educate them and to prep them so they know how to respond, how to argue.So it's not just us as parents arguing for them, but actually put in them.And I think that part of the advice control group allows you to, I guess, teach them this so they can carry that forward.
(D) Yeah, absolutely. And on the other side of it, you can actually use the card, for example, to say, look, we're actually doing something good for society. We're not doing nothing. We're not sort of not taking this and not helping the situation. We're actually, contributing. Yeah, contributing our data so we can, you know, see which way it's going. So they are actually doing something. It's not doing nothing.
(R) Yeah, in terms of our children, they're both they're all home educated.
(D) Yeah, so Well, mine have dipped into school and out actually during the pandemic.
(R) Yeah, I literally dragged mine out of school and I quit my job.[46:20] So, yeah, they haven't been back since, bless them. But we've got a lovely community around us and we've been, you know, muddling in and helping and teaching them between us all sorts of skills.Yeah, I think mine thought probably I'd gone a bit crazy at the beginning because I'd completely flipped around what I was saying at home.[46:39] And I actually took my eldest daughter to one of the first protests that was happening in London.And it was then that she burst into tears when we got there and saw the enormity of it.And that's when she realized that what I was saying was right.But you do have to be careful with children and protect them.You know, you can't tell them, you know, you don't want to scare them, do you, with what's happening?
(D) No. But then on the flip side, they're being scared to death by what they're seeing in the media.But yeah, but actually, my eldest was at university during lockdown.And oh my goodness me, she was in one of the universities facing the one that had the fences being pulled down, well fences put up and then pulled down.And she actually had one of her friends commit suicide during it because of all of this.So the whole landscape's changed for the kids and they can either be terrified of COVID and whatever comes next, or they can be terrified of what's going on around them, but supported by people looking to a positive future of trying to do things to make things better.So we're, although, you know, it's, it's scary telling them all about this. And we do, you know, to different degrees, because they're all different ages, but they can see that we're doing something about it. And actually we're having a lot of fun doing it. It's, It's hard work what we're doing. It's sometimes heart-breaking, but we do make the most of having a laugh a lot.[48:05] Yeah. We have a lot of fun.
 
With what we faced, you need to laugh. I know when we do our news reviews on Saturdays, we try and look at something which is funny at the end because it could become very depressing and demoralizing and you need to use humour too. And that's why the event, Derby, was great, in comedy to just laugh at everything and stop yourself getting too depressed.
(D) Yes, definitely.
It's been wonderful talking to you and I know our viewers will go and make use of the website.Rachael and Diny, thank you for your time today.
(R&D) Thank you so much. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you.

The Week According To . . . Peter Mcilvenna

No guest this episode as Peter is busy travelling and attending conferences but the show must go on, sofrom his hotel room we hear his considerations on some of the stories that have caught his attention including.....- Project Veritas: What on earth is going on?- Protesters clash with police at Liverpool hotel housing asylum seekers.- UK scheme to prevent terrorism has "apparently failed" repeatedly to identify attackers, a review has concluded.- MP calls to refocus domestic counter-terror programme to take in anti-vaxxers, incels and followers of the Trump-supporting, Q-anon.- Questions being asked at GB News as Mark Steyn quits.- Rotherham councillors ‘knew and stayed silent’ about town’s grooming gangs scandal.- Church of England to consider use of gender-neutral terms for God.- Arizona hospital on brink of collapse after spending $20 million on migrant care.- ISIS calls for attacks on Christians around the world in the wake of Koran book-burning in Sweden.Peter Mcilvenna currently works for Lord Pearson of Rannoch (One of Margaret Thatcher’s last Lords appointees and former UKIP leader) in the House of Lords.He has also worked as a Senior Researcher in City Hall for the UKIP assembly members and as UKIP’s National Campaign Manager during the 2019 Local and European Elections.Prior to this Peter travelled across the UK for two years speaking at churches under the banner "Can we talk about Islam".He also worked at Christian Concern (a Christian lobby organisation) and before that was on staff at Kensington Temple (one of the largest churches in the UK) for nearly ten years.Peter is married with two children, has a strong Christian faith and has attended Kensington Temple, a large Black majority Pentecostal church in West London, since 2002 when he first came to London.Peter co-founded Hearts of Oak with Alan Craig as they were becoming increasingly alarmed at the world wide woke agenda and they set out to create a populist Free Speech Alliance aimed at countering the cultural Marxism that pervades all areas of our lives.Hearts of Oak was launched February 2020 in Westminster London.Recorded 10.2.23
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Amy Kelly - War Room & DailyClout: Exposing the Pfizer Lies and Coverups

Pfizer tried to hide it. The FDA tried to cover it up. But then came DailyClout and the War Room. The full analysis of 50 reports from the Pfizer data dump has now been published for the first time and Amy Kelly was the heroine who made it possible. She coordinated the efforts of over three thousand volunteer experts. Amy joins us to go through the most shocking findings of this report and gives us her insights into how, under her guidance, they put together the Pfizer jigsaw.Amy Kelly is the Program Director for the War Room/DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Project as well as being COO of DailyClout. She oversees the approximately 3,250 volunteers who are reviewing, analyzing, and reporting on the court-ordered, FDA-released Pfizer documents, as well as overseeing the approximately 350 volunteer attorneys who are identifying legal actions to be taken based on findings from the Pfizer documents. Additionally, she does research and provides answers to the public’s questions about adverse events found in the documents.Amy has over 20 years of experience as a Project Manager. Additionally, she is a certified Six Sigma Black Belt, certified in change management methodology, and has experience as a Business Analyst, Product Manager, and Strategist. Prior to working at DailyClout, she worked primarily in the telecommunications, transportation, and medical devices industries. Outside of work, she volunteers for education-related causes and in county political organizations.War Room / DailyClout Pfizer Documents Analysis Volunteers’ Reports eBook: Find Out What Pfizer, FDA Tried to Conceal Kindle Edition on Amazon.....https://www.amazon.co.uk/DailyClout-Documents-Analysis-Volunteers-Reports-ebook/dp/B0BSK6LV5D/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=War+Room+%2F+DailyClout+Pfizer+Documents+Analysis+Volunteers%E2%80%99+Reports+eBook%3A+Find+Out+What+Pfizer%2C+FDA+Tried+to+Conceal&sr=8-1Connect with Amy and the Daily Clout.....War Room/DailyClout Pfizer Reports: https://behindthefdacurtain.substack.com/Amy Kelly Substack: https://substack.com/profile/101872272-amy-kellyAmy Kelly on GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/akamericaDaily Clout Website: https://dailyclout.io/Interview recorded 3.2.23
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[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak. We've got Amy Kelly coming up. Amy Kelly is the Chief Operating Officer of, Daily Clout. Of course, we've had Naomi Wolf on many times who's the co-founder and CEO of Daily Clout. And Daily Clout, along with War Room, have produced a phenomenal document which pulls together, the Pfizer reports going through all the information that Pfizer dumped. And they've, have pulled together, I think, 50 case reports on all different areas. It is available to download directly as a PDF from Daily Clout and also is available to download on a Kindle from Amazon.You need to get hold of it. It is a seminal document that talks and shows the crimes that have been committed against humanity, against the world. They knew about it. The FDA knew about it.They didn't do proper testing.They got rid of documents. They got rid of trial documents. It's so much.[1:23] It is close to unbelievable, but yet we've seen it transpire right in front of our eyes.So Amy goes through so much of it, pulls together a number of the stories, and you will want to listen to it and you will want to get hold of it.So make sure you do. By doing that, you're informing yourself and also you're supporting the great work that, Daily Clout are doing. So enjoy Amy Kelly.
 
I am absolutely delighted to have Amy Kelly with me today from Daily Clout. Amy, thank you so much for your time today.[1:58] Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it.
 
Not at all. It's always wonderful to look at the work that you're doing with Daily Clout in many areas and obviously in the last two years been focusing on the COVID vaccines.We want to talk today about the e-book. All the links are in the description.And this has just come out a few weeks ago.Let me bring it up on the screen. And if people go to dailyclout.io, they can get a copy of the documents put together down load it as a e-book, as a PDF, you can download directly on Amazon. Everything is there. The links are all in the description. But before I get into the book, can I ask you, Amy, how you ended up taking on such an enormous task of pulling together all this information. What led you up to that point.[3:01] Well, my background professionally is in project management and I've also got a background in business process improvement specifically something that's called Six Sigma or Lean Six Sigma. So that leads into what I'm going to say next. I actually signed up to be a volunteer on this project and when you sign up in the volunteer process and ask you like what your skill set is and mine was not you know many of which were available to choose from like a doctor nurse or statistician things like that so I'd build in the other input project management and process improvement and it just so happened I submitted that[3:47] form at the time when everything was really coming together and they needed somebody to take over the project and manage it because so many people have volunteered. And so Naomi reached out to me and asked me if I would be interested and I was intimidated at the thought of thousands of people but very passionate about this cause and so I said yes I would love to give it a try and see how it goes. So that's how I got involved.
And let me just, this is it on Amazon. You can download directly there.And it puts together the 50 reports. And I, there, when you, when you go through and see the great thing about this book is one you can pick up, you can go through some sections, set it down.You're not going to be tested on all 500 pages off it. Don't worry.But there are a whole lot. So one of the reports, Pfizer mRNA construct, why spike proteins causes disease, report six, safe and effective.We baked a different red flags in the Pfizer internal documents.Report seven, COVID-19 vaccines and pregnancy, risky business.Asking what did Pfizer know and when did they know it? The FDA fails to mention risk of heart damage in teens.[5:09] Looking at the missing pregnant women from their trial. Looking at micro RNA, which I had actually never come across, with adverse effects, rising babies, breastfed by vaccinated mothers.I just want to reinforce that any issue, any area that the viewer, the listener will have on this topic is covered.Absolutely everything is covered in it. And it is something you can pick up, you can understand and then be equipped to discuss that.As you've begun to get involved in this, was there a time where you thought, this is just too difficult?Obviously, Pfizer had meant it, so it was nearly impossible to actually get hold of everything.So when you were going through the data, were there times when you thought, this is just too big a task?
Actually, I haven't really felt that way and the reason is is because we have such an amazing group of volunteers, doing this project. I mainly am just coordinating how[6:19] documents are distributed between them for them to look at and then reviewing reports that are submitted and so forth I mean, there's a lot of other things that happen behind the scenes administratively.[6:30] But as far as thinking it's too big or too intimidating They have been all in for this and I just am honestly awed by their passion and commitment to it.And they have fantastic skill sets. We have so many doctors and as I mentioned statistician, medical researchers and this, is their area and I get messages from volunteers all the time saying I love reading medical studies and I'm like thank goodness because that's what we need. One thing that was maybe a little intimidating about it is a lot of the documents are very I call it tables heavy like they have bunches of tables of data but they, the tables of data are in a PDF so they aren't easily analysed but I put out a call to the volunteers because I knew we had a lot of data experts data analysts and sure enough there's a group that came together and formed their own group to extract the data out of those tables in the PDFs and put them into an Excel format to make them searchable and much more easy for others to use in doing research. So I'm supported by lots of wonderful people.[7:52] And of course you had those three and a half thousand volunteers that came from all over, to pull this together.But there's one side, you can have the information, but obviously the issue is to get it out to, the public. And it's not just Daily Clout's name on the front, but it's also War Room.So tell us about kind of that partnership and the effect of War Room and Steve Bannon actually getting the message out.[8:20] Well, that's an amazing partnership and we are so thankful to Mr. Bannon and his team.[8:29] When the Pfizer documents started coming out, Naomi was on War Room already on a somewhat regular basis.And my understanding is they were on there one day talking about these documents.And Mr. Bannon said, we have the greatest set of people watching.They're highly engaged and we're going to put the call out to see if people will help analyse this.Crowdsourcing this type of research is new as far as I know.And he put the call out and the volunteers started rolling in.So that's really an effort that he made happen. And then he's been so supportive through the whole process of letting us talk about what we're finding and go on and highlight reports that the volunteers have done.And just none of this would have happened without him.[9:26] He is a force of nature. Certainly is.Can I, you begin as a summary and you go through some of the findings and maybe I can just pick some of those and let you talk a little bit more around them and from your perspective what kind of stood out.But one of them is, and all of these will just blow people away, is if we haven't understood how awful the situation is when it's laid out step by step, it really does hit home.I think that's one of the really valuable parts of this document.But on the first one, Pfizer's claim of 95% efficacy was based on only a tiny number of COVID-19 cases in the clinical trials, 170 cases in over 40,000 trial precipitants.That blows you away. You think this mass amount of people actually testing and then when I first read that, I think in Spectator quite a few months ago, 170, that's mind blowing.[10:33] Yes, it is that it's such a small subset on which that was based and that report is fascinating to me for a lot of reasons.The people who wrote it are extremely talented and know their stuff.And one thing that I found interested in reading that report other than the tiny sample that was used was that there were what we call protocol deviations.So each clinical trial has protocols that must be followed.They lay them out and that's what you stick to unless you formally amend the protocol.And what happened with this one was there were protocol deviations.And those protocol deviations led to several of those 170 people being in a situation where they really should have been disqualified from the trial.And if I remember correctly, the number that would have remained was 164.And that doesn't meet the threshold to get emergency use authorization in the United States.So they kind of ignored some things they shouldn't have ignored in order to push it through.[11:49] Wow. I just want to go through and pick up some of these and then we'll open it up.Another one, number three said contrary to public statements by Pfizer and FDA, both, were aware of data showing that the vaccine ingredients travel from the injection site, throughout the bloodstream.We hear a lot about that of the whatever is in the vaccine going into one part of you and then traveling.And when those questions were asked, of course, those people were dismissed as crazy, as tinfoil hat.But again, you've looked at the data and the FDA and Pfizer were aware that this was an issue.[12:35] Yes, they were for sure. They did studies called bio-distribution studies and you, know that's this big term that really just means where do things travel through the body when they are put into the body. Let's look at all the places, it goes. And they did those studies and saw that it did indeed travel throughout, the body via the bloodstream. It gathered in organs such as the ovaries and the testes and the liver even in the bone marrow basically any organ you can think of almost it gathered in and so they had that information yet when it was rolled out to the public all of us were told it remains in the deltoid muscle that it's injected to in your arm and doesn't go throughout the body so, that was just that's almost worse than the not having informed consent it's just lying about it.[13:37] And they knew. There's another, I love the way you put out a statement and the numbers and you have to think, oh sorry, did I just read that? So in number four, Pfizer did not expect more than 158,000 separate adverse events to be reported during the initial 12 week rollout.158,000.[14:03] Tell us about that and how they responded to that.[14:07] Okay. So that is the period of time you're talking about is called the post-marketing period.And so that started with, it actually started with the UK rollout date.So on December 1st, 2020 through February 28th, 2021.And during that time, they're collecting reports of adverse events.So they had, I can't remember the exact numbers, a little over 42,000 cases of people having adverse events.And then among those 42,000 cases, there were the 158,000 something that you mentioned adverse events.So people were having multiple adverse events.That is a shocking document to read through. The appendix is eight pages long of just margin to margin adverse events that people had happened.And some things are minor that you would expect more like a fever or soreness at the injection site.But there are truly frightening things in there that,all kinds of diseases and autoimmune issues, which is another disease and just, Shocking shocking things to read through. I really encourage people to look at it. It's around[15:31] 1,190 separate adverse events of special interest. That's what's in the appendix versus, Just regular adverse events there's ones when they say they're of special interest that are of particular interest to what they call the sponsor, in this case, Pfizer, and they want to do more research on that. But no one was informed when they went to go get the vaccine, let's say after February 28, 2021, that there was this long list. So once again, people really can't give informed consent without knowing that they might be subjected to those kinds of events.
Because certainly in the UK when we had our daily press briefings, I'm sure you had in the US as well, you got those death figures each day.There certainly was nothing about any possible negative side.It was simply you must get it. I assume that was the same in the US.[16:28] Oh yes, it was the same in the US. I've talked to so many people, especially since I got into this line of work, who said, know, they went and got vaccinated. Nobody mentioned anything negative. You just walk in and sign a piece of paper saying that you consent and they give you an injection. And there may be the rare pharmacist or doctor or nurse, whoever's giving you the injection that mentions that there could be some adverse event, but that's definitely not the norm here. And from talking to people worldwide, it sounds like it's not the norm anywhere.
There's another key element in this and that is the effect on babies.In section five, it says, as Pfizer tracked adverse events during the first 12 weeks of the vaccine rollout, 270 pregnant women reported a vaccine injury, but Pfizer only followed 32 of them and 28 of their babies died.Once again, they seem to hide this. You talk about medicine and you talk about groups maybe who shouldn't get the first ones and pregnant women is generally regarded as in that, but they seem to have disregarded that completely.[17:52] Yes, they really have and it's honestly been shocking and so upsetting to see that happening, especially given that they had this data from early on showing a very high miscarriage rate among the women that they did follow who were pregnant.[18:12] And in addition to that, the babies that do make it to full term and are born are also having issues a lot of times from the mother if they're being breastfed and getting those ingredients through the breast milk.
Is that information getting out? Because I know that I was at an event here in London 10 days ago, two weeks ago, and it was, there were eight people on the platform talking about being vaccine injured and talking about how their lives had been destroyed really.And there's very little help for them because it's not even believed.Is that story beginning to get out of the effect on this and then those people actually receiving any health and care for that.[19:02] You're speaking about the vaccine injured now?
 
Yeah, yeah.
 
Yes. I do think it's improving some.There, now that we're all being allowed to speak out a little bit more on social media about it, that message is getting out. There's videos being shared that are undeniable.And of course here, luckily, we've had Senator Ron Johnson, who has highlighted the vaccine injured.And now that we have the house has a Republican majority, they seem quite interested in pursuing that as well. So I think the message is going to get out. And I just think we've kind of reached a threshold where it almost can't be ignored. I was just talking about this with somebody yesterday, when you constantly are seeing people around you, either that are, you know, been vaccinated and boosted and keep getting COVID or they are injured from the vaccine and can't function like, they're injured. Some people may not think it's from the vaccine but they can't function like they used to or all the prominent people that we've seen dying and that's been reported is getting the message out more. I think we can't really ignore it in the same way it was being ignored previously.[20:24] Yeah, completely. So in number seven of the overview at the beginning, it says Pfizer's clinical trial documents suggest that this mRNA vaccine ingredient that instructs for spike protein can be transferred from one person to another by skin to skin contact inhalation and sexual intercourse through bodily fluids.And it's this term that comes up called shedding, which again, we were told nonsense and that was completely dismissed.It's in these documents to say no this actually is correct.[21:03] Yes, it was definitely a concern for Pfizer during the trial.They had it in their protocols, like you said, about skin to skin, inhalation and through, bodily fluids, including sexual contact.And so they knew it was a risk and we're looking out for it.And yet anyone who says they've experienced side effects from being around the vaccinated maybe living in a home when you're not vaccinated but you have people living with you who are, told you know, no you're crazy, that's a conspiracy theory.Even now when you look it up it's fact-checked everywhere if you look up vaccine shedding.[21:48] But it is a real thing and they warned against it and tried to keep particularly men and women, women of childbearing age separated during the trial.
Again, looking at men and in section nine, it says Pfizer did not evaluate adverse vaccine adverse effects on male fertility during clinical trials because the company was in a rush.That is an indictment. Oh, tell us, again, I guess there is a rush to get to market. But male fertility, fertility is fairly essential to the human race and yet they just weren't in a rush to get to, market and make money.[22:35] That's what it seems like. Yes, they really didn't look into it and toxicity tests they did during the trial.They did look at how females were affected and they're looking at rats in this particular situation.But they didn't do any, if I recall correctly, toxology testing on the male rats that had been exposed.So they just really didn't look into it. And again, going back to what we talked about earlier, they ignored that it was collecting in the testes, which clearly also affects men's fertility.[23:15] Yeah, because of it's-
 
And also, yeah, I was just thinking about how, as you see in that one report, everything is affected in male fertility, like the sperm concentration, sperm motility, certain cells that are related to reproductive organs that would affect in particular like still developing boys and stuff.Yeah, there were lots of effects they didn't put forth to fully inform people.
There is another looking at heart issues, which again is a topic that's coming up more more. And then this in point 12, it states during the vaccine rollout in early 2021, cases of, Mari pericarditis, words none of us knew before, inflammation of the heart lining and muscle, still can't really say it, were reported to Pfizer one month before the emergency use authorization for teens was granted. So tell us, because we hear a lot about this issue of heart problems, especially amongst boys.[24:28] Yes, I mean, there have been so many things that have come out and they were reported.As you might see even in the news now, they always say it's very rare, nothing to worry about that these boys or other people that are affected are going to recover. But what you listen to when you or what you hear when you listen to very well-informed cardiologists, is that the heart doesn't recover from that when the heart is damaged, it's damaged and you can't make it better. And there were reports of myocarditis and pericarditis in the post marketing period also. And in another report that was recently done about cardiovascular issues, we saw that they didn't include myocarditis and pericarditis in the cardiovascularcategory, they instead put it in an immune mediated autoimmune category.So it didn't count as a cardiovascular event. Now I did look into it and there is such a thing as immune mediated.[25:39] Yeah, I was like, again, like you not catching the cases of those.But that's from what I read a much more rare event than what we see related to the vaccine with myopericarditis, pericarditis, myocarditis.And so it was really sort of deceptive to not include it under the cardiovascular adverse events.
When you kind of look through some of these and want to pick up a few more, but the issue on heart issues, because here in the UK and in Europe, one of the vaccines that was available was AstraZeneca.I don't think it was available over there in the States.But that was stopped because of concerns of effects on the heart.But yet you've got Pfizer seemingly also concerns, but nothing happened.I mean, when you kind of look back and assess that, how is it that you think that one was stopped because of concerns, but another one was just given free rein and seemed to be the FDA knew some of these as well?[26:49] Right, and we ran into that in the US, not with AstraZeneca like you said was here, but with Johnson & Johnson, J&J shot, or Janssen, it's also marketed under.And they did pull that one back and say there's problems associated with it, but then they left Pfizer and Moderna out there still running strong with known heart issues associated with it.And of course, I don't know the inner workings of how they made all of those decisions, but it almost seems like they decided we're going to sacrifice one of them and then just keep promoting these other ones.And it's been shocking to me that they have not stopped it for the heart reasons.Now they are admitting that there are some heart issues.Again, they continue saying it's rare, it's passing.[27:44] I don't know that that doesn't seem true to me, but you're right.They know, and they just keep them out there and haven't pulled them back yet.I can't believe it because in any prior years prior to COVID, they would have been pulled, long ago for those reasons.
Because the conversation I had with family friends was, well, what's the rush?It can take 10 years for a vaccine to be fully developed, to be tested.And this is a miracle, if miracles are possible in reducing that time scale.But obviously there was a push to respond to a supposed threat and that's why corners were cut.But when you kind of look through some of the corners that were cut, what do you think will happen to those companies who have done this?Because the information is getting out there and I've seen Ron Johnson's Senate hearings and highlighting what's happening.The information is out there.Is it just that the US have been waiting for a change in control of the house to actually do something or the media can place it. When you look at that whole area, what are your thoughts?[29:14] Well, it definitely helps to have Republicans in control to do some investigating.The mainstream media is extremely complicit.I really view them as having blood on their hands or just completely ignoring what's been going on or that this information is readily available and they could be reporting on it.At a different time, this would have been like the biggest story in the world if they, had pursued it, but they haven't pursued it.And because so many corners were cut, the clinical trials have really been happening, since the start of December, 2020, and it's in real time.And control groups have mostly been eliminated. They wanted to eliminate all of the controlled groups, the mandates, and trying to get everyone injected so that you couldn't see the difference.[30:13] I personally think that there's going to be a lot of long-term fallout.So we're seeing some relatively short-term fallout now a couple years' worth, but who knows what's gonna happen, say 10 years down the road, when adolescents and younger people who were injected with these vaccines are maybe ready to start having families, And there could be all kinds of fallout from that.They may not be able to have a family at all or have the size family they want with what we've seen with reproductive issues.[30:51] You mentioned about the trials and here it states Pfizer phase three trial in humans was supposed to compare the vaccine group against the control group.So one group received a placebo, the other group received a vaccine and you look at them. That was supposed to go for two full years, but Pfizer eliminated most of the control group after four months.I mean, tell us again, that's short circuiting the system, but tell us about that, about removing those kind of control groups.[31:25] Well, I actually spoke with somebody who is very familiar with, for example, the FDA space and clinical trials.And what she told me was that when there is something that's considered essentially an emergency situation, it's looked negatively upon to withhold a potential solution from, those who are being in who are in the placebo group and so your company is basically doing the right thing quote-unquote to give it to the people in the placebo group because you wouldn't want to leave them unprotected and I[32:09] feel like that's being disingenuous honestly you know it feels more like they were trying to eliminate the placebo group so that you didn't really have something to balance it against but that's the official line of why you can do something like that.[32:28] Official and unofficial.
 
Yeah.
Now in one of the reports that I'm looking at, I can't remember which one, but talked about[32:39] withholding drugs that may have been beneficial. I don't know whether that was, I'm trying to find I don't know whether that was either Ivermectin or others, but again, we were told that you, get the vaccine, that is your protection.It's nothing to do with lifestyle or exercise and certainly there's no other drugs in the market. You must get that. Talk about that. I think one of the reports refers to that.[33:09] Yes, one of the reports does refer to that and I also can't remember the name of that drug off the top of my head.I believe it starts with a P, but they did know that it offered really good protection, against like getting severe COVID and being able to do treatment.It's the same thing we've heard with ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.If there's alternatives out there, then they can't push their drug to that they want you to have because you might have access to these other ones.So they've been suppressed or, you know, just it's almost been whitewashed to like where, say where they don't work.These things don't work when we have so many studies that show that they actually do work really well against COVID.But of course, there's low profits in already existing drugs, especially if they've gone into generic.[34:06] Another reason for rolling it out to everyone as you mentioned profits, but there maybe are groups that didn't need it actually at all or were not at risk and that is of course children.And I saw the report and I missed it again, but looking at the rush and push to give it to children, that was a disconnect from them actually requiring protection from anything.[34:39] So I mean, just touch on that as well.
 
Yeah, there was never any evidence, in my opinion, that children needed anything to protect them from COVID-19 unless they had other are severely compromising comorbidities, then they might need some treatments.But as most of us have heard by now, children get COVID, they may not even know they have COVID.If they have it, it looks like a cold. And there certainly wasn't a need for them to have, a quote unquote vaccine against this.And yet I again think this is driven by profits. That was a new group that they could, essentially push this upon and make money off of giving it to them.And, you know, get it, at least here in the U.S., get it onto the childhood vaccine schedule has been part of the goal.And then it becomes almost required or in many states actually required because what's recommended is required to go into schools in a lot of the U.S. states.And it's been heart-breaking to see them do this and not only do it, but even suggest boosters for children.[35:57]completely. And of course, the reason why people were told they needed a vaccine, and I don't think you touch on it in this, but was because a test told them that they had COVID and therefore all these tests, which I think I read that there were two of the tests.I think in the UK there might have been 48 or 45 providers and I think two of them got, if I can remember right, two of them were based in two hotel rooms in Shanghai.The companies didn't exist four months before and I think the contracts were something like 50 and 60 million for each of them.But again, it goes back to the whole testing thing and I don't think that's something that's covered. But again, that's a huge failing. I mean, not necessarily connected with the report, but what are your thoughts on that? Because we were, I guess, told that many people had something simply because we were testing from a company that had never done these things before.[37:11] Yes, the PCR test, just such a nightmare how all of that has gone down.And even the person who invented those has come out and said they were being used in a way that they should not be used.And they set something called the cycle threshold at a number that was so high that it will detect like remnants of viruses that aren't even active anymore.And so you are getting back all these positive tests that are really false positives.And then, you know, the mass media is out there going cases, cases, cases and reporting that for at least a full year.And like you said, the tests are generally coming out of China.I did actually read a specific thing on the tests that were in Europe, that almost all of those were from China. And I mean, it's hard to trust somebody who is such an enemy of ours, that they would be putting forth something that is actually going to work correctly for us.And now, and at least in the US, that they've lowered cycle thresholds, You are getting nearly as many positives when they test people.But.[38:33] I just, I feel like that is one of the places we most went wrong was testing, testing, testing.[38:40] You know, most people wouldn't have even known they had it if they didn't get tested. And another example of that is all the people who went into the hospital, for example, you know, for surgery, or, you know, whatever happened, and they test them for COVID, they didn't have any idea they they had COVID and so then they become, they do have COVID, but they don't know it.And then they become a COVID case that can be counted and the ever growing pile of COVID cases and a COVID hospitalization case that they have to stay in the hospital for something.[39:16] Yeah, no, completely. Exactly the same here.There were just two other points I want to pick up and I really did want to give an overview many of the areas that it covers and the viewers, the listeners will be in no doubt that this is a publication that they do need to get and can just click that link in the description, whether they're watching the video or listening to the podcasting platforms, it is there for you to click on. Another one of the points was in September 2021, Pfizer and the the FDA did a bait and switch by licensing a version of Pfizer's vaccine called Comornity.And although they claimed the Pfizer emergency use authorization was interchangeable or, equivalent, Pfizer documents show that only approximately 4% of the EUA vaccine was interchangeable.So this seems that they went with the approval of one type of drug and then have something which is fairly different and yet carry over that approval which goes against everything the public would think that these regulatory authorities are there to do.[40:33] Yes, like you said, definitely a bait and switch. And the way it was presented to the public was just completely false as well, at least in the US.All we heard from mainstream media was that it's been fully approved.There's been a version of the Pfizer vaccine that's fully approved, we're good to go.And that's all people heard because they didn't drill down on these news programs and so forth about it, but the fully approved version has never been available in the US and, I'm not sure where it even is available. So when you would tell people, no it's not, we're still under emergency use authorization because that's all that's available in the US, a lot of people don't believe that because of what they've heard on the news. And so it was it was trickery, it was just outright trickery in my opinion on both the parts of the companies, the FDA as well as the media.[41:37] Absolutely. There was one thing which actually I hadn't come across until I read this and we'll kind of finish off in this point. And it says here that in point 13, it was Pfizer did not disclose, that its COVID-19 vaccine ingredients include microRNA. We've all heard of mRNA but microRNA, which was an important natural component of gene expression and regulation and are associated with many diseases as well as a person's immunity. And again, there was no assessment for something which was quite novel and new. That's again something none of us have heard of that we, are receiving and no assessment of the harm or otherwise of this.[42:28] And I do remember that report. Unfortunately, micro RNA is something I'm not very well informed about.[42:35] And I need to revisit that report to it was very technical, And well done by somebody who really knows it well, but,[42:46] like you said, it's another thing that wasn't fully disclosed and[42:51] there are published lists of what's that's allegedly in the vaccine, but I continue to hear that we still don't know everything that's in the vaccine, that that hasn't been fully released.I don't know which side is telling the truth, but I tend to believe the pharmaceutical industry is withholding some information.And yeah, it's interesting to read about things like the microRNA and there's another report on pseudo-uridine, I think it's called in here, that is another ingredient that nobody would be familiar with, but it's very impactful in what it can do and people need to be informed about it.[43:37] Wow. There's a lot in it. I think the whole area we haven't delved that deeply into is the whole attack on reproductive we've touched on a little bit. But Amy, just in closing, I ask you, when you looked through all of this, at the beginning, we were not aware of this information, this information then goes public.For you personally, as you've looked through this data and you see the completed product, what kind of sits out with you or has surprised you the most or shocked you?Just for you personally, what stuck out?
Well, one thing is just how much was known before or very early on and withheld from the public like we were talking about earlier.[44:31] I can't believe that uninformed or informed consent became uninformed consent and was just thrown to the side.And that was that's a tenant of medicine and it always has been and I feel like the people that were giving these injections knew that they didn't have the information to give to people.And so that's been horrifying for me, as well as what I see happening.Like you said, with reproduction, that's also been one of the most shocking things that impacts the whole world, you know, the whole population.And the fact that there was going to be all these effects on reproduction seems like it was handed out in the protocols as the clinical trials were being done.And then they definitely knew and had information in the post marketing period right after the rollout.And yet people were just completely left out of that.And I'm a mom. I have a college-aged daughter and I love her friends and stuff I've been around for years and I just wonder what's going to happen with all of them as the years go on.And of course with their male friends as well too.I'm horrified by[45:55] how the companies and our government and our public health officials have been willing to sacrifice, humanity for what appears to be greed and a certain narrative or control.And of course, that one of the other things that has really bothered me through all of this is how it was used to like mandate behaviour, and mandate what you put in your body, which I found horrifying to watch.So there's shocking stuff that comes out every day.We just recently had another report come out that during the post-marketing period, there were children that were 11 and younger that were injected down to age two months, which there's not anything approved for two months.And you just wonder how that happened and how people could be complicit in making that happen. So lots of shocking information in here.I think there's between all of these reports, there's something for everyone that's going to really make an impact on how they view what's happened to all of us.[47:11] Wow. Well, to our viewers and listeners, please do go to dailyclout.io. You can download it as a a PDF if you have a Kindle then that is it on Amazon and you can download from there.So very final thing, Amy, what's been, tell us the response because it's just out, I think the last time we had Naomi on was before Christmas and it hadn't come out yet. So for you having the product together, completed, blood, sweat and tears over it, it goes out. What has been the response after you've released it.[47:45] Oh, it's been overwhelmingly positive. We've had so much interest. There's been about 11,000 copies sold now between the PDF and what's on Amazon. And also, I don't know if you're aware of this, but we are going to be coming out with a paperback. And I expect that to be out in about two to three weeks. We'll definitely make announcements around that. We've had a lot of people say they'd like to have physical copies. It's been overwhelming and so many people seem[48:20] honestly kind of overjoyed at finally having access to the real information because there's so much documentation that the FDA has released the Pfizer documents and it's very dense and hard to read through so to have it in these digestible reports that are much easier for the lay person to read has been warmly received.
 
It's strange being overjoyed at bad news but truth has to get out and you're right the public need to be informed and these companies held to account.
Amy thank you for your time I really appreciate you coming along and sharing the book thank you so much.[48:58] Thank you for having me on. I appreciate it.
 
Not at all. Thank you.

Mark Steele - 5G: Safe and Effective or a Weapons System?

This is an interview we have wanted to do for a while now after falling down a rabbit hole while reading an Alex Jones article a few months ago asking whether 5G was a weapons system.The topic of 5G is widely regarded as a tin-foil hat, crackpot theory by many but after the last 3 years we have learned not to trust those in authority and to keep an open mind as those in governance are often the enemy. Mark Steele is a weapons expert who has previously worked on projects for the Ministry of Defence, specialising in directional weapons systems, electromagnetic radiation weapons, direct energy weapons, EMP’s, weather modification weapons and he never shies away from what he considers the big picture. In our discussion he looks at the roll out of 5G and asks the big question: Is 5G safe and effective or is it a weapons system? It is all food for thought, be receptive to new ideas, never be afraid of asking the question and be ready for an answer that you don't always expect.Mark Steele is a British engineer, inventor, patent writer and weapons research scientist; an engineer with a materials science background, and inventor of the world’s first binocular optical wave guides, weapons sight systems, infrared thermal imaging head up displays, molecular reactors, signal processing, and transducer design, to name a limited few.As Chief Technology Officer (CTO) at the company that designed and brought to market the world’s first internationally approved head up display (HUD) product, accredited with a number of innovation awards, but more importantly regulated to a number of internationally recognized standards, including (DOT) Department of Transport ECE 22.05, as well as ANSI and others, he was relied upon in the establishment of international standards for augmented reality (AR) and virtual reality (VR) HUD systems.Mark's involvement with several research and development projects spans his entire working career and includes some of a sensitive nature due to Official Secrets Act 1911 restrictions and therefore he is not at liberty to disclose these in a public domain; suffice to say this work has led to an understanding of Department of Defense (DOD) contracts, the compartmentalization of weapon product design projects, and Directed Energy Weapons (DEW), whose existence has until recently been obscured and sometimes denied.For more information.....https://www.saveusnow.org.uk/Interview recorded 30.1.23
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[0:22] Hello, Hearts of Oak. Welcome to another interview on a completely different topic. Mark Steele is about to join us and it is on 5G, whether it's damaging, dangerous, unsafe. It's a topicthat's come up a lot and Mark Steele is certainly a name that always pops up when you look at this issue. He has worked on this, studied this for a long time, the dangers of electromagnetic radiation generally and 5G and the negative aspect of that, whether it's planned or not,whether it's a kill weapon. I've heard that phrase used. Actually that phrase I think I read from Alex Jones last year where Alex Jones leads, I think we all follow eventually. That's onething I've learned. But over the last three years, I think we've called into question so many things and 5G I think fits into that box of things that some of us have begun to question.When we're told the vaccines are safe and effective, I think we can ask same about 5G. Is that safe and effective as well? So the same question.[1:24] Great conversation with Mark. We talked all about his background, looked at the 5G rollout, looked at why it's dangerous, looked at how it can be used.A lot in, in 45 minutes. We could have gone a lot longer, but it is a big subject and it's good to, I think, keep it short, certainly for the first time.So I know you'll enjoy Mark Steele immensely. So here he is.
 
It's wonderful to have Mark Steele with us to unpack this. Mark, thank you for your time today.[1:55] Thanks Pete, that's just great to be on eventually so we can get the information about what's really going on.
I'm here now, the privilege of meeting Mark back end of last year and I kept meaning to come back to him and arrange a time to come on and hadn't and it was actually a friend over in the US had sent me an article on 5G and Mark's name was mentioned and I remembered I needTo get Mark on. So great to have you on. SaveUsNow.org.uk, you're very much involved in that.Actually, it's a political party, but there's a lot of information there as well. Do you want to maybe introduce yourself and touch on Save Us Now as well?[2:41] All right. Well, I've got a background, an engineering background. I'm an inventor, a patent writer and I've been involved in a number of projects over many, many years. I've spent well over.You know, 35 years in research and development, I've developed my own products, I've brought them to market. So I understand the, you know, the different types of, you know, how you go abouttaking something as an invention and then actually bring it to market. So through international standards, etc., all products have and are required to fit within some type of standardized regime.For safety. So you can't just be you know manufacturing things and send them across the world and them not being able to be safe to customers because obviously you're going to end up in a bit of trouble there.And what we've found is[3:34] A lot of this technology, they call it killer tech for a reason. Pretty lethal. I got myself exercised about the virtual reality headsets, you know, the VR headsets.I mean, how they got away with that, I'm not really sure how that's even trying to get away with it or even thinking that they can continue getting away with it.Not only does it make you sick, that optical radiation is extremely problematic.You kind of just, you know, focus optical radiation in people's eyes, but that's it. It's a whole other story to 5G. but it is interconnected.You know, the whole virtual world, this whole cloud computing network.[4:11] And what we did, I found in the early part of 2016, my local council had fitted LED streetlights with these antennas where they were spraying a lot of radiation, basically a spine piece of equipment,5Gs for back holing data out of its environment.Okay, so it basically just data scavengers and it's something that your local council want to sell to the highest bidder.Now, some of this equipment can actually listen to what people are saying.You know, you can actually pick up sound audio with them, some of it's urban radar.The really concerning bit, the equipment that we had in the Gateshead area, it had a dialectic, it was a high gain dialectic lens.Now that then, it's a whole other ball game.That allows me to target acquire and possibly do some serious damage or even kill somebody. These electromagnetic radiation weapons programs are working to seek weapons facility in the 80s.So understand about electromagnetic radiation, what we call direct energy in air, direct energy weapons.[5:18] They're lethal, all right. We know that because the Havana syndrome.Now governments have always tried to pretend that these pieces of equipment don't exist because they use them against dissidents.They've used them, you know what I mean? If you listen to Barry Trav, I'll tell you about the weapons that were used against, you know, dissidents in Ireland.Anybody who they don't like the look of, they can basically sit outside your home and pour this radiation into your home and cause you to have a neurological breakdown and actually cause physiological brain damage.So you can actually, you can actually, you can visit this, you can see it. And that's what we found in the Havana syndrome attack where there was a lot of misinformation being put out at first about it being an ultrasound weapon.I can tell you now these microwave radiation weapons are far more sophisticated.[6:13] Ultrasound is very helpful if it's for subsea, it's a far better medium to travel sound waves in and especially at distance.So you would use it if you're in air, you're gonna use a microwave radiation type weapon system. So we knew it was a microwave radiation weapon and what happened, the US government have had admit now.That the injuries that the embassy staff suffered were from microwave radiation because they're getting compensation for it.It was something they didn't wanna go there. These weapons systems have been around for 40s. The Germans were testing directional weapon systems on camp inmates.That technology went under operation, paperclip to the US. They then just kept on developing it.And some of this equipment is extremely, extremely sophisticated, far more advanced than what a lot of people would like to imagine.And you just don't see it because it's like I said, that's secret programs. Now, the Gateshead area, I spoke to the council, I spoke to a number of councillors and new councillors, so I spoke and I went to the council.[7:24] Which I explained my concerns about this particular type of technology.It was all just a little bit over the top of their heads. And I think deliberately, you know, these people are wilfully ignorant to this type of technology.[7:38] I explained how dangerous it potentially could be, how a great security risk it is, how these systems can be hacked into. I know the operating platform, the equipment that actually installed was already accessible by anybody.So this kit could be used for spying on the public, basically urban radar, it can also listen in on equipment in your home. And it was all part of this 5G network.[8:08] Local council denied it was 5G. They said it was some 2G piece of equipment anyway, I then didn't get anywhere with the council. That's why we set up the save us now movement.And it was to give us some political cover because there is an element of protection.[8:25] Especially, you know, I'm telling people the equipment that they're gonna install is gonna kill you I'm telling people exactly what we're now know to be true because in[8:33] 2018 when they took me to court, they took us to court to gag me. They had to gag us. What they said was I was frightening people in the locality by telling people that they would die from thisequipment that had been installed. Unfortunately at the time we only had a small increase, you know probably one two percent increase in heart attacks, two or three percent increase in stroke, which issignificant but not significant enough for you know for you to really you know get to the bottom of it and but unfortunately now we've got near 20 and 30 percent increases and week on weekwe're seeing an extra thousand people in the UK die and I can guarantee you this is the contaminated bio weapon which they call a vaccine and I know all about that program for tracking where on the battlefield,and it's interconnected with the 5G network but it they haven't weaponized it as a weapon yet because you you will see people when they weaponize this technology you'll see people just basically causing a tonic seizure and collapsing in the street. I haven't seen any videos of that in the UK. I saw quite a few of the tests of it in Wuhan and we've seen some from around the rest of the world. Now I know this might sound very very unbelievable and that's why I tellpeople that do your own research don't take my word for it. The council took me to court and[10:02] they said I was a conspiracy theorist, I was frightening vulnerable people and it was amazing that people actually believed me. However the problem that I had they had actually you know they put a lot of media coverage out, they took press releases out that went internationally,they were totally falsified, they were fabricated pieces of information and basically a criminal conspiracy to cover this whole thing up because what we had at the time in Gateshead was we had a large number of women losing babies in the full term had already measured the radiation levels in a number of people's bedrooms where we're getting lots of complaints so we had the actual evidence of this radiation impact and that radiation people have to always understand its accumulative overtime. So even though that's smaller amounts, you know, it's not as powerful as an x-ray,this radiation accumulates. So the more that you get, the more biological damage over time.It's how we get skin cancer.[11:03] Skin cancer occurs in people with you know poor diet etc but skin cancer occurs on people who continually go into the sun. So it's an accumulative radiation that's non-ionizing radiation and that's man that's natural occurring not man-made.Man-made something completely more toxic whereas you've got an immersive non-ionizing radiation emission from the sun that will give you skin cancer by the way even though they'll tell you you know these non-ionizing radiation emissions are perfectly safe however that's natural occurring it's immersive and weare symbiotic with natural occurring non-ionizing radiation we're symbiotic with it this man made something completely different it's toxic due to the square waves z-waves and the data packets thatare actually embedded in it, it brings it in this whole toxicity thing.[12:05] Can I just step back slightly because for me certainly, I think over the last three years during the pandemic, that a lot of people have begun to question a lot and I think it's intothat kind of reassessing our relationship between the authorities, the institutions and those we trusted.And I think when you come to this, we're told, don't worry, something is safe.Well, that doesn't mean it's safe. I'm going to question it. But for you, I mean, was there a point, was there something you read?Was it just a build-up of your knowledge and understanding that made you begin to question specifically on the 5G issue?
Well I always knew that you know this type of radiation causes pneumonia type symptoms so you know you'll get flu type symptoms viruses are inactive here what a doctor will exhibit you go to the doctors let's say you've got Epstein-Barr virus.[13:07] Now he's going to tell you you've got a virus what I'm going to tell you is you've been hit with a 50 hertz frequency which exhibits to the medical community as a virus most viruses, pneumonia, all these different, you know[13:22] Let's say medical conditions can be you know can be looked at there's some environmental pollutant that's actually caused them and obviously electromagnetic radiation man-made in particular.Is that pollution it's why a lot of people go in the sun you know when you go in the sun you get herpes simplex virus well it's basically just radiation pollution that comes out it's the bodytry to get it rid of this you know this pollutant that you've your body's absorbed you probably had too much and that's why you get people who go you know they go skiing and they end up getting their cold sores and how they get the cold sores obviously you've got a lot of light there but it's also reflecting on the snow and then bouncing back up into the face that's how you sometimes get a nice sun tan at the same time when you're skiing,So it's all electromagnetic radiation.So when the whole 5G thing and the whole coronavirus, corona is an electrical discharge by the way, on a 5G mask.So I mean, I'm not saying that that's, I think it's just people, you know, it's a bit like a corona from the sun, electromagnetic radiation emissions from the sun are called corona as well.So these radiation emissions cause all of the known symptoms that we saw exhibited with coronavirus.[14:47] But one of the things that we were alerted to early on was the flu vaccines and how the flu vaccines had been contaminated with tungsten was the main contaminant.Now, if I fill a body with tungsten, used tungsten in the filament for a reason. Okay. If I fill a body full of nano particulates.And tungsten is the main ingredient has no pharmacological reason why it would be in a vaccine.[15:17] And but if I hit that with a modulated frequency from any network you know wouldn't have to be 5G I mean obviously 5G is a lot more powerful it's a lot more focused so consequently it's going topose a significantly larger risk to people who've had the flu vaccine they're possibly going to get very sick and could possibly die and we know that there was corona type symptoms that medics were you know they were recognizing that these symptoms were right away 2019 well lo and behold 2019 was one of the main switch-ups for 5G.We were a test bed, Gateshead was a test bed, Bristol, Rotherham, there was other areas in the country so it's not an exhaustive list where these technologies were being tested. Anyway, we're going to the we get to the cold case.[16:11] When the council tried to gag us and unfortunately it was the biggest mistake they ever made because we got into the court and basically after they basically fabricated most of the evidencethey lied, fortunately had a police officer who was actually at that court case who told the truth they said I've made threats to kill several of them had and there was a police officer who wasactually in ear shot and he was one of the first witnesses on the stand and I made it quite clear about this threat to kill narrative and he said look Mr Steele I was you know Ididn't hear you threaten to kill anybody so I had one honest police officer who saved me from you know some possible other very serious charges of threatsto kill against the council the mayor, the mayor said you know I basically threatened her in the council chamber it's totally false, chief executive saidwent in the attacked in the council chamber that was totally false. Unfortunately you talk about serendipity there was a there was a chap who was actually in the public gallery a guy called StephenPreston he videotaped the whole thing so they'd basically lying in their statements and this video then pops up, judges watching it and he goes well come on Mr Steele how many times have you beento Gateshead council he's thinking this is a different time and I go once and he's[17:41] like you can see the judge totally dumbfounded so he's got these statements from the executive and the mayor saying I basically went to attack them and theyhad to eject us from the building and have us wrestle over the bill I mean you want to you talk about making stuff up I mean these people are just pathological liars but I mean politicians are, let's be honest.They've just proven themselves to be pathologicalized. I think we've got, you know, later, Sir Christopher Chew up probably a handful of conservatives, you know.[18:15] Bridgen who's doing a fantastic job, we've got some great MPs in there, I'll tell you what, we need a lot more because if this whole thing carries on it's going to be horrendous and.Like I said at that particular court case this equipment will kill and they won't be able to cover up the body count and that's exactly what we're seeing now. I did predict what was going to happen.[18:38] Let me put, because I think there are two separate things in my mind and I know I think I saw a similar statement from Alex Jones last year talking about people living close to 5G kill grids are going to die from cancer.I think we've all learned that Alex Jones could be called a prophet because a lot of what he says has come true.But there are two separate things. One is technology that has been used and with a rush to market, with a rush to making money, you have side effects. Another side is actually this is targeted for killing.[19:18] But on the danger side, because obviously you've got the electromagnetic spectrum, you've got x-rays, you've got microwaves, which can be very harmful if it's low burst.You've then got radio waves, which aren't harmful. Now you've got 5G, which we are told is not harmful, completely benign.But you're saying that part of the electromagnetic spectrum is extremely harmful. What is it about 5G? Is it because there's just going to be towers everywhere, that everyone's using it? Is it the widespread abuse? Is it targeted?Tell us specifically on that.
It's well there's two elements to it there's two technical parameters for 5G one's densification so let's say I had a large 2/3G network okay it could let's say be a telecare so a medical network I'll stick on every single on every single chimney pot and all of a sudden I've created a 5g network because 5g is about mesh networks and it's about densification now the densification the more radiation, the more toxic itis. That's how I know that that particular part of 5G, the densification is a weapon.[20:32] It's a weaponized part of it. The other specific, the other specific technical parameter of 5G is the focusing of radiation in air. So that can cause, there's a number of different antennas,phased arrays, one of the main ones where you have a number of different elements, you offset the signal and you cause a beam wave, a lobe of radiation in a densely packed field.And consequently and that's what they use for you know these active denial systems, they use a focused beam at the target, that's what 5G is. 5G is that equipment, it's the same equipment,However, the military will tell you that it's non lethal. That's absolute garbage. These are lethal technologies.I've got the pictures I can show you some of the victims. They're not.They're not healthy at all Uh, basically I'm gonna cook you to death. I mean some of these 5G mass. I mean we got some stuff.[21:35] Some antenna design 160 000 watts so you've got a thousand watts microwave cooker, are these can beamhundreds of thousands of watts and I mean we've got one piece of intelligence which shows it an antenna that can emit a 386 thousand watt beam in the main lobe at a target now. That's not going to cook a person That's just going to knock the house down.[22:02] so this equipment now one of the really interesting things if you look at the Microsoft.[22:11] Microsoft patents They've got patterns for delivering a cryptocurrency on bodily activity.Now we've already done the magnetiser's test, we've got guys across the country who are going out testing people near their magnets to show that they've got a magnetic field emission in the Deltoid.This is the people who, it's stable in the Deltoid. Some people that didn't aspirate the syringe consequently that, you know, they might just,could drop down dead immediately. It's where the nano particulates have migrated across the body.[22:50] But the real purpose of that COVID-19 injection is so they can inject a stable antenna in the deltoid, that can track you and it's all interconnected with Microsoft, the Azure,right, which is their 5G cloud computing piece of kit.It's all interconnected with the masts that they've attached to your street lights. So the street light furniture, Telenza,one of the main ones who are working with Microsoft to create this cloud computing system so they can analyse the data locally.[23:30] They can then harvest all that data back. The local authorities see you're their property so they're going to they're going to sell that data because obviously they can hear you they can see where your car's parked if your car's parked on a double yellow it'll get an automatic fine. They'llnot need traffic warnings to go out because obviously the urban radar can scan everything in real time and it can actually create this data that the council then sanction you if you put the wrong piece of material in a bin so they can monitor it smart bins they can see whether it's[24:06] if it's being recycled properly if it's not then you get another sanction this is what it's all about and also using goods in your home when you finish with your last tin of beans you put it in the bin and the next minute it up pops an advert for special offer for beans as that whoever whoeverthe high bidder. This is the technology that they're proposing what they haven't taken into consideration, the health effects. The health effects will kill are killing, we're seeing closeto three and a half thousand extra dead, four thousand extra dead over a five year and the five year average has been pretty big because it's been through a pandemic where unfortunately people whenthey switched this 5G on a lot of people who had had this these flu jabs were just dropping down dead, you know getting pneumonia type symptoms, basically it enhances the radiation that they were being bombarded with from the 5G switch on. So the whole thing's interconnected. Now I'm pretty sure behind the scenes is some very very nefarious activity going on because why would anybody want to putuh, nano-particulates into flu vaccines. there's no purpose for it. It was done deliberately, nefariously, and it was a malicious attack to create[25:27] this COVID-19 plandemic, and then what happens, they can then, they've come in with all of these control measures, you know, that, that central bank digitalcurrency, uh, you know, new type of digital passport, the digital prison, the whole digital prison warfare, your local councils have beenweaponized against their own populations. The trouble is with your local council, they're full of very, very thick people who want to try and encourage you to get into an electric car thatwill give you leukaemia and sterilize your children. But you see, they're that dim, they don't understand the mechanics what the real plan is depopulation and to steal all private wealth andall private industry private wealth so you've got councils now shutting down their local areas so traffic can't get down there private businesses then go bankrupt council gets into more and more debt because got more and more sick people got to remember since the switch on in 2019.They've actually added another half a million people to the full-time sickness register they've they've killed a few hundred thousand by the way,but they've already added another half a million to full-time sick.Now, anybody that understands the sickness claim issue at the minute, it's extremely difficult. I mean, I know a guy, he was smashed up in a car crash in 1976.[26:55] He has one of these disability scooters, drives around, has loads of health issues.[27:03] They actually signed them off just about six months ago and the reason for that is because you could actually go into the assessment, you can speak and you can get in front of a computerand you can use a computer because his hands are fine, you just can't walk around. So this is the type of activity and so if you think about sort of actually had to add another half a millionto those claimants that impacts on the local authority, it impacts on the local services,which and we can show that this radiation which does increase Parkinson's risk, cancer risk, diabetes, Crohn's disease, all these ailments, theseneurological damage, mental health problems, anxiety, suicide rates, stratospheric. You know I mean the Gateshead Council, it was so bad in Gateshead that whatthey did that carried out the study they've got a number of the institutions up here local universities to do a study and they came back and said it was universal credit that had caused this massive increase in in suicide however.[28:13] Bristol University had it was catastrophic, Bristol where students were committing suicide they weren't on universal credit so the whole narrative was that falsified and fabricated this.It was very similar to, there was a group set up in Sheffield and it was a Save Sheffield Trees Action Group.[28:39] Anybody in that group that mentioned, because obviously Amy who had the 5G contract to put this equipment into the street furniture, they had to chop down all the trees, large number of trees.Anywhere they found out there's somebody, a whistle-blower, the council wouldn't release the commercial contract and anyway, whistle-blower did release it.And they plan had chopped down 30,000 trees in the city so they could access this 5G network. Now, 5G in a sub gigahertz range can travel through trees.Not a problem, okay?The issue that you've got is when the trees get wet. if I was to pull what's called an EMP, electromagnetic pulse weapon, that would then cause you cause you problem but also the thing with trees they keep the cities cool and the whole point of climate change, I mean in Birmingham, I'm going to Birmingham, if anybody's in the area I'll be doing a talk on this on the seventh and I'm in court on the eighth, it's an online hearing but I have to be in Birmingham because of court.Well I'll be with the guy down there who's suffering absolutely horrendous,[29:55] like physical damage, psychological damage, burns skin burns off the radiation. He's EMF sensitive and obviously he gets rashes, burns, lots and lots of trouble with his body from this radiationpollution. Birmingham City Council have fitted 107,000 of these 100 milliwatt transmitters to every single streetlight. It's a legal urban radar network. It scans people's rooms, back holes allthe data. I don't know what collection cloud services they're using, but we'll probably find out. But this illegal urban radar, it's a total invasion of your privacy. Nobody warned you about it. Nobody told you anything about it. But these are a hundred thousand now. They'll tell you that,you know that equipment in if it's ignorant guidelines they only talk about one and not talking about a hundred and seven thousand you've got the multiplication of all these transmitters in a small environment and what happens this microwave radiation and those numbers a one milliwatt emission will cause a temperature increase okay so you'll get a thermal you'd actually feel it at 1 milliwatt[31:10] These are 100 milliwatt each and there's 107,000 of them and they're going oh the cities are getting warmer I wonder why I wonder why the cities are getting warmer and that's not the main the mainreason why climate change is happening that ionospheric radiate has where in the chem trail and where the chem trail in the sky and the bounce now that was over the horizon radar systems which Iknow quite a bit about and it's quite interesting a lot of these technologies are battlefield derivedweapon systems and they're coming to a town near you. I said they've weaponized your local council to do you harmwhich is in breach of the terrorism laws because it's a political agenda. The whole climate thing is a fraud. It's a total fraud, it's a total nonsense, a hoax just like that plandemic and what they're doing they're going to they're going to use that climate change narrative.[32:03] To force you into an electric car to sterilize you to give you leukaemia, sterilize your kids, they're putting radar, urban radar up which will now cause us cancer.So you've got ubiquitous amounts of emissions, urban radar, absolutely lethal where they're scanning the environment. Then you've got these urban radar transmitters on the street lights, 107,000 just in Birmingham. You've got this, all the smart meters, if anybody's got a smart meter, get it removed, it's all about control, it's not about you, it's so that they can control and switch you off whenever they want. Or they're going to actually burn your appliances out.All the appliances in your home now think about it, you've got a local authority right somebody gets on the phone and goes oh listen we've got a hundred thousand of these new LED tv. all of a sudden.[32:57] you wake up the next morning your led tv is broken and you've got to go and buy another one and they've just sold the advert on your smart and another smart tv you have in the house you see.The advert pop off special offer led I mean honestly this is exactly where they're going with this We, you know, this is the hill we're going to have to die on.[33:17] Can I take it? Cause I want to pick up on it being military technology because most of us have no idea what is actually developed and the public get to know decades later.But you've kind of got two groups of people. You've got bad actors and you've got useful idiots and both of those groups need to work together to prove something.When you look at the companies that are ruling this out, they are simply, I'm assuming, looking at making a large profit, getting market share. And that's what it's about to the shareholders. So when you've got a mobile phone company pushing a 5G network, pushing 5G phones, it's about making as much money for the shareholders.So are they simply useful idiots in this?[34:09] Absolutely, yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Useful idiots, that's all they are.And your local councils, you see, one of the things with telecommunications networks, these mesh networks, first and foremost, the telecommunications act in Europe states they have to do these EIAs, these are environmental impact analysis.They haven't done that. You've got your local council allowing 5G, this large, the larger masts, allowing 5G masts to be installed.That's the government have told them, they've got to follow the guidance and not assess the environmental impact, not allowed to.So the councils are just doing as they're told, but they're in breach of the 2012 Social Care Act, which says your government and your local authority,the director for public health and your local authority in particular, has a duty to protect the health of the local population.So they're breaking the primary legislation so that they can follow some guidance because some twang in some government agency said.[35:12] Oh, by the way, when we do planning, we'll give them basic planning approval, but what we can't do, we're not allowed to look at health effects.That is just absolute, we can't look at the environmental impact.We can't, all we can do is look at the aesthetics. So if it doesn't look very nice, right? We'll put a big tower up, it doesn't look very nice, then you can object, but you can't object to it killing you, destroying the environment.Can't do anything and what you definitely can't do is look at the power output.[35:42] Councils have been given self-certification from the installers. All the installers we came across are empty vessels so that companies who don't have any assets or if there was any harm.[35:55] The equipment's uninsurable for harm. The tower itself is uninsurable from a fatigue mechanics perspective so it could topple on top of you they're not insured okay they're not insured so.There's no insurance they've just put this stuff in it's not tested to be safe it couldn't have been tested to be safe because if I tested it it would fail and that's why they never tested 5Gall the other communications networks your 4Gs 3Gs 2Gs 1G they were all tested for safety and that's why your first telecommunications masts got a fence round.But you see that antenna operates on inverse square law so you only have to be a few meters away from it and the radiation drops off significantly. I mean I wouldn't like to sit next to one for a long time.But you've got to remember you're driving past these, you're walking past them, you're only immersed in it in a few minutes and then all of a sudden the radiation drops off significantly.[36:51] What actually happened with 5G, they're putting masts on your streets, next to your schools, next to hospitals on top of hospitals. I mean there's one really interesting thing about UK hospitals youknow with the concrete buildings and the fabric of the building is actually starting to degrade to such a degree where they're worried that the roofs are going to fall in. Well if I pulse modulate[37:15] materials like with this energy because you know denser materials you're pulse modulating that energy's got to go somewhere and it can fracture materials like concrete, steel can allbe disassociated at specific pulse modulating frequencies that's how some of the vaporizing type of technology the weapons bits right they'd get really interesting as was so in 9-11 when the.Whole building just basically disappeared away across manhattan just blew away i mean that was that was quite interesting um i mean obviously they did use uh you know they did use normalexplosives but the more interesting part of that particular attack was the way just vaporized the building. That's the weapon I was invested in.[38:02] Tell us more about, because as this is rolled out, you see it in some countries being rolled out.I think South Korea might have been one of the first countries to have a network.What kind of data are you looking at? Because you're looking at data of the impact of the 5G electromagnetic waves. You can, I guess, test that.It's rolled out into a population. So how does that work? Because I guess whenever you see medical issues like cancer, we're all told cancer is going up, that seems to be linked to peoplegetting a jab. So that's a separate story. But changes in medical numbers, changes in cancer rates. How do you kind of analyse that and connect that back to 5G?[39:02] Well, there's a six sigma event, what happened in 2019, where the half a million people added to the sickness benefit. And it's specifically in and around the time when the 5G network was actually installed. radiation is an environmental pollutant. If I bring an environmental pollutant into anenvironment that all of a sudden a lot of people start getting cancer, the cancer rates and thereason why they're interconnected with the jab, the jab's full of nanoparticular contaminants.[39:32] If I then put the, when I vibrate that radiation at you and especially in the blanket coverage, which is the sub gigahertz frequency, travel straight through the body, but it has an effect.On those nanoparticulates because they then catch that radiation, they vibrate them and we can, you know if you look at explosives right,high-powered explosives on the battlefield create nano particulates. Now where soldiers you know get these you know I've got anumber of the you know these documents where post mortem you know people that have cancer in thekidney or the liver whatever and when they've actually you know done a biopsy looked at the soo-lec or microscopes they'veactually found that they what caused this cancer causing event is some nano particulates, so troops suffer it, you know, whether dealing with high explosives because you do create these nanoparticles. Nano particulates cause sterilization.[40:35] Why anybody want to be injecting anybody with any is just beyond, well it's not beyond our comprehension. We know they have a depopulation plan, we know they're attacking the West inparticular. It's all about, you know, depopulation, taking your money. If you understand the World Economic Forum, right, an international terrorism organization, right, who you've got most of your people in cabinets across the country, across the world, they're all involved with the WAF, the WAF,unfortunately are planning your death. They've got a plan in place, they're coming for you, fortunately, the whole thing seem to be falling a bit for them because unfortunately they didn't stabilize,the antenna in the deltoid due to rushing the technology getting people in check people not aspirating the syringe and consequently people dropping down dead immediately a lot of people thought uh yeah I'll not be having that so there's an awful lot of people haven't had the shot.Now, they have to come back.[41:35] And bring that again. Until you get every single person with that vaccine in them, their real life is totally at risk and that's the this is the problem. They're going to lock you down inthese digital cities, digital prisons, whether it be food supply or that and then they'll come along go you've got to take that. They have to get the tens of millions of people who haven't had it.[42:00] They have to get them vaccinated. So what I'm going to say to people is we are our adversary as a structured weaponized system against us we need to have a structured response toIt see I hear all of there's enough of us make no mistake about it what we don't have we don't have enough unity and the reason for that we've got a lot of state actors embedded in the movement. What I'm going to say is people, I always like to test them out very quickly,ask them some simple questions. Is 5G safe? Is it a weapon system? As soon as they go.[42:36] It's all, it's well, you know, that, that, and you, even if they're just ignorant, you don't want them about. If they tell you the vaccine's a vaccine or a biochemical weapon, we've got allthe data on that. I mean, Dr. David Martin does a fantastic job, not the only one, but does a fantastic job in identifying all the patents. In Bill Gates's patent, the antenna they've injected,into you that he's had a great deal of input into and bunged up all the different institutions to tell you that it's safe and effective. That antenna specifically so he can create a cryptocurrency.On your physical activity. That's what he's really after and he's put it in this Azure net with Azure.It's a Microsoft cloud platform so it'll be able to see you walking along the street from those transmitters on the top of the street lights so it's watching you and all of a sudden he's building a cryptocurrency on the back of it that's really where they're going, what he didn't know well.He probably did it's going to kill the larger proportion of the population so he ain't gonna get much on his cryptocurrency and at this rate we're seeing as of December I said it[43:48] early on the bio weapons got a two-year fuse for 24 months so it was the 8th of December in 2020 when they started the vaccines we're now starting to see as of December just gone.We're starting to see another thousand plus people every single week added to the kill rate.[44:10] If that carries on to the summer you know at the back end it's you're going to be there's going to to be 50,000 extra deaths per week in the UK and they've already killed them.[44:23] You know the fact that they've had that shot put in them. Now there is ways to mitigate it. If anybody's listening to this, you've had the vaccine, make no mistake about it, there is an antidote,get in touch. The greatest power to you is getting 5G stopped. I mean that 5G network, especially in the streetlights, can target acquire you and can eliminate you causing the atonic seizure. I just take you with an 868 pulse and that's it. You're dead.[44:51] Then I mean yeah if you've got somebody there who can start you back up you know if you've got a defibrillator on that then maybe you do have a chance. However if there's nobody about who knows how to use that equipment bringing your back round is going to be a problem.[45:05] Just to finish off, that connection between 5G and the mRNA vaccine and with them working together, I remember the first time I had Kate Shemirani on and she started talking about this.This was early on.I didn't know what to do with that conversation because it was just, wow. I think you learn things, you assess what's happening, you become more aware.But tell us more about, as we finish, that link between those two, because what you're saying the 5G masts can cause damage by themselves, but with what's in the mRNA, that that is actually helping it or affecting it in some way.So can we finish off on that?[45:57] You've got leakage of the mRNA, so if you've got these nanoparticles around the body and it's leaked into the body, then obviously the electromagnetic radiation pollution is going to be problematic to you. It just increases the toxicity because the nanoparticles they like sort of reflect.[46:12] They'll modulate at the frequency and what they'll do is they'll damage the cells, you get oxidative stress which is precursor to cancer. That's how you're getting people who are currently developing stage four, they're not even going to stage one, they're going to the doctors, they're not well,they get stage four and they're dead within months. That's what's happening.The other people where it's been stabilized in the deltoid it needs to be removed and we're looking at ways to get it removed but what I'm going to say to people get an ADM magnet, powerful earth magnet they're not expensive, test yourself in and around your deltoid if you get an attachment.Right get in touch with us we'll then put you on a protocol but what we'll do is we'll then goand take action. We need people, there's 30-40 million people in this country who are victims of a crime, they need justice and the sooner they start waking up to what's happened to them.And stop trying to pretend that you know it's something they just want to bury their head in, the only thing they're going to be buried in is in a coffin, right. They don't stop this 5G network,it's planning to kill them and the only thing that stopped it, this war in Ukraine could go hot.If it does, they need a civilian population. It's probably one of the reasons why they've held off.[47:27] Yeah. Mark, I appreciate your time. I'm glad that we got this sorted out eventually.Thank you for coming along and sharing your findings, your understanding, perspective on this. It's been fascinating. So thank you for your time today.
Thanks, Peter. I was pleased to be on.

The Week According To . . . Lewis Brackpool

Very excited for this one! Joining us this week on our regular irruption into the news, stories, headlines and social media is Lewis Brackpool.Lewis burst on to the alternative news scene with Rebel News and is now strengthening an already stellar line up at Ickonic Media, delivering more honest journalism and quality reporting skills whether it be documentaries, field reporting or writing, and this episode we take a deep dive into some of his recent articles. So as an advocate of free speech, we look forward to hearing Lewis' musings on this weeks topics including....- US secretary of state postpones China visit after spy balloon fiasco.- Nonce and former pop star Gary Glitter is released from prison.- Mother suing school who forced her 4-year-old to take part in a gay pride parade.- Climate propaganda in British schools funded by elite billionaire foundations.- Doctors suggest cutting the use of anaesthesia to “save the planet”.- Whitehall's Ministry of Truth: Secretive Whitehall units have been recording political dissent on social media. - The absolute state of CNN, reporting that black police officers involved in the heinous Tyre Nichols case might of been driven by racism.- Andrew Bridgen to sue 'Midazolam Matt Hancock' over criticism of Covid vaccine remarks.Lewis Brackpool is an independent journalist, broadcaster, commentator and a reporter for Ickonic media. His writing focus is politics, freedom of speech, news and current affairs.Here he discusses his journey into journalism."I’ve been in the alternative media for a couple of years. I was previously with another company, a Canadian-based company called Rebel News. I started there after being made redundant from my previous job as a flight attendant - or a ‘trolley dolly’ as they say!After that, I thought, ‘Right, I want to get back into politics’. I used to study it for a bit, but my views were completely different to what we were being taught back in the days of 6th Form, with all the programming that they were pushing on people, so I decided to make a YouTube channel.I did that for a year, built up some contacts, networked, really pushed out my viewpoint on various subjects, and then applied for a course to report on Rebel News." Now Lewis has joined the fantastic team at Ickonic Media and will continue to bring uncensored, unbiased and unique information in his own imitable style. Connect with Lewis.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/lewis_brackpoolTWITTER: https://twitter.com/Lewis_Brackpool?s=20&t=ugH3aHz8n6Su4agPZJouqQTELEGRAM: https://t.me/lewisbrackpool ICKONIC: https://www.ickonic.com/ Originally broadcast live 4.2.23
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Jaeson Jones - The Threats Posed by Unsecured Borders, Drug Cartels and Transnational Crime

The US border is a topic we have not looked at before and there is no-one more qualified to discuss this subject than Jaeson Jones.Jaeson is a renowned expert on the threats posed by unsecured borders and is a nationally recognized authority on the Mexican Cartels. He has lived and breathed the southern border his whole career and his insights into the drug cartels that ruin millions of people lives is unique. He explains what is really going in in the drug war and how people trafficking is very much part of that problem. We end our chat by looking at the solutions which are possible to combat transnational crime and regain control of the 2000 mile US-Mexico border.Jaeson Jones is a retired Captain from the Texas Department of Public Safety’s Intelligence and Counterterrorism Division. He managed the daily operations for the Texas Rangers, Border Security Operations Center (BSOC). He supervised Human Intelligence (HUMINT) operations in several nations and managed Intelligence lead operations for the longest 24/7 border operation in Texas history, Operation Secure Texas. He liaised daily with law enforcement and members of the intelligence community to collaborate with all disciplines of the homeland security enterprise.Jaeson was responsible for providing timely information and analysis necessary to prevent and protect against all threats. This included providing analysis and Intelligence to the Texas Rangers, Criminal Investigations Division, Texas Highway Patrol, Aircraft Section, and State Emergency Management Division. Given his knowledge of Mexican Cartel operations and threats involving border security, Jaeson frequently speaks to executives within all disciplines of homeland security throughout the nation. His focus is on best practices for combating transnational threats and the spread of violent criminal networks.He served as the Critical Incident Commander in the State Intelligence Center during both Fort Hood shootings, Austin IRS Echelon building attack, University of Texas active shooter incident, Odessa shooting involving four officers shot with over 1,200 rounds fired, Ranger Recon Mexican Cartel shooting, Murder of a Bexar County Sergeant, and the Bastrop County wildfire disaster.Jaeson has led investigations targeting Mexican cartels leadership and built programs that collaborated closely with the U.S. intelligence community to help save lives in Mexico and throughout the United States. Connect with Jaeson.....WEBSITES: https://www.jaesonjones.com/https://tripwirestriggers.com/TWITTER: https://twitter.com/jaeson_jones?lang=enFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/JaesonJInterview recorded 31.1.23
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Martin Sichert - AfD Bundestag: Leading the Charge in Questioning the Rise of Excess Deaths in Germany

The German analysis since the start of Corona vaccination program show that the population has seen drastic changes in disease patterns and deaths. This is the result of data from the Association of Statutory Health Insurance Physicians (KBV), which our guest today, Martin Sichert MP was able to evaluate exclusively together with data expert Tom Lause.In December 2022 they made their findings public at a press conference which provided frightening insights. With the start of mass corona vaccinations, the number of people who died “suddenly and unexpectedly” skyrocketed compared to previous years, more than fourfold. In every quarter, starting with the first quarter of 2021, more sudden and unexpected deaths were identified by panel doctors than in every year from 2016 to 2020 as a whole.Martin Sichert is the health policy spokesman for the AfD (Alternative for Germany) Party in the German Bundestag, is a member of MENSA and has a degree in business administration.To follow Martin online.....GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/martinsichertTWITTER: https://twitter.com/Martin_SichertTELEGRAM: https://t.me/martinsichertinfoFACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/sichertmartinAfD Website: https://www.afd.de/Bundestag Website: https://www.bundestag.de/abgeordnete/biografien/S/sichert_martin-858038Interview recorded 23.1.23
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The Week According To . . . Matt Hoy

Welcome to our latest look back over the past weeks news, articles and social media and we are delighted to be joined by Matt Hoy.Up for discussion this episode....- Black Boy Lane in London renamed by local council.- Immigration: Home Office booking entire hotels for 2 years!- Taxpayers to shell out over £200k for Boris Johnson’s Party-gate legal fees.- Australian media report on the increase in heart attacks.- Calls to suspend covid 19 vaccines in South Africa because of safety concerns hits mainstream news.- U.K. to end COVID-19 boosters for people under 50.- Climate groups decry selection of oil chief to oversee COP28.Matt Hoy, until recently was a singer with UB40 (Feat Ali & Astro), he was dismissed by them and the management company because he wouldn’t take the experimental covid 19 vaccination.He is now back to being a solo artist and his latest album, Strong, is available at https://matthoyofficial.co.uk/product/matt-hoy-strong/Follow and support Matt at....Website: https://matthoyofficial.co.uk/GETTR: https://gettr.com/user/matthoyofficial_3311Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattHoyOfficial?s=20&t=36J481-HUH6A3tzwMrw3JAWorkers of England Union: https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/Recorded 27.1.23
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